WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Sounding Off

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Tusy November seventeenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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<v Speaker 1>number sixty five. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star got Nick David Amber joining me today and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna turn the show over over to Amber here in

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit. We're gonna do some fan questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get to fan questions often enough, so we

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<v Speaker 1>decided we're going to turn over the almost most of

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<v Speaker 1>the show today to you guys and let you guys

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<v Speaker 1>get some questions in and we'll answer as many as

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<v Speaker 1>we can and hear what you guys think is important

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss. We do have a few news items, a

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<v Speaker 1>few topics we want to hit before we get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Though yesterday we find out that Andy Dalton and Cheeto

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<v Speaker 1>a Woozier. Both we're back at practice. According to coach McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation is at this point that they will both

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<v Speaker 1>play this weekend. First, starting with Andy, do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>to see the offense playing better than it playning even

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<v Speaker 1>better than it did versus Pittsburgh with Andy back, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with you. Yeah, I think I expect that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys expect that or they would have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gone to Gilbert. I think that they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit better quarterback play would have won

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<v Speaker 1>that game. I'm sure it would have won the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>game as well, and so, you know, as as good

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<v Speaker 1>as Hilbert played, based off our expectations, I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it could have been way better obviously, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they're just hoping that Dalton, with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks off here, maybe he's fully healthy now

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<v Speaker 1>and he can convert some of those field goals into touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I would I would think that he could

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit better amber I think, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility of that, but there's just something that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that it just doesn't work with Andy Dalton, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously he has all the experience. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>proven guy. You've seen him do it. You know he

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<v Speaker 1>can do it. But at the same time, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just me, I just feel that he

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't quite fit in with the guys in the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like there is a lack of connection

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<v Speaker 1>there and unity in a way. And there's nothing necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>to back this up. It's merely based on the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>that I've watched the guys when they go up there

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<v Speaker 1>and try to talk to the media. Just the way

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard certain players express themselves about Andy Dalton makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like there's a lack of unity there and

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of connection. And not to say there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>bad and like it's nothing bad against him whatsoever or

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<v Speaker 1>his skills, but to me, personally, I just feel that

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Gilbert fits in better and therefore maybe that's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we saw the offense perform differently than what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw with Andy Dalton, even though Andy Dalton have

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<v Speaker 1>had a very limited time on the field. Dave, those

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<v Speaker 1>Andy is Andy quotes really bothered you. Huh, what'd you

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<v Speaker 1>say that that was the only thing coming out when

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton was the starting quarterback was Andy's Andy. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks the same as he always does, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong, it was very boring. But I'm I lean

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<v Speaker 1>toward thinking Andy Dalton's going to be a pretty drastic improvement, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm banking mainly on the fact that Zack

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<v Speaker 1>Martin basically was out for both of his starts. He

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<v Speaker 1>went down actually in that Arizona game and missed the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington game. I think having him there can stabilize that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. And yeah, like I think he's the better quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be surprised if he doesn't play significantly better than

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<v Speaker 1>he did against the Cardinals and Washington. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be the interesting thing. I'm cautiously optimistic, is the

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<v Speaker 1>way I would put it, because I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw from the offense last week was different

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<v Speaker 1>than what I've seen since Dak has been out. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't know is, like you say, Dave, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's because Zack Martin was out and

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<v Speaker 1>now Zack's back and the offensive line was better because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, or was the offensive line better because the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback got rid of the ball quicker and was being

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<v Speaker 1>more decisive with his decisions getting the ball out right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I really don't know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be an interesting thing to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>this week, as everything points to the fact that Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton will be your starter and presumably play the entire game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at the defensive side of the ball. Cheeto's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. You've lost Treyvon Diggs. Do you expect the

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<v Speaker 1>defense to be better, worse, or the same with basically

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<v Speaker 1>swapping out Cheeto for Treyvon Dick. Let's start with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave the same. I think you're you're swapping out one

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<v Speaker 1>solid corner who occasionally gets beaten for another solid corner

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<v Speaker 1>who occasionally gets beaten. I think if you had them both,

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<v Speaker 1>you would probably feel pretty good, but you don't. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's Cheeto on one side, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you piece it together with everybody else as you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would guess it's gonna look fairly similar, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to say, okay, all right, Nick, Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I mean you'd like to have

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<v Speaker 1>them both because I think they would be your two

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<v Speaker 1>best cornerbacks, especially the two best on the outside. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cheeto will well should be it should be

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<v Speaker 1>well rested. He also should should you know, be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of certain things, certain looks. Um And you know Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>they have some some good receivers. They got a good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, young rookie that I know Dave knows all about.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you know, Adam Feelin's a really good route runner,

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<v Speaker 1>really good player, good pass catcher. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just you'd like to have it both probably from an

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<v Speaker 1>awareness standpoint, I mean, you get more with Cheeto, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Diggs is a better playmaker. And he's got

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions and I think Cheeto has four for his career.

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<v Speaker 1>So for his career, yeah, So I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he gets about one a year, so um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got his one. So I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about a washer unfortunately, Amber, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we might get a similar look at

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<v Speaker 1>least in these first few games of him coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's missed a really long time. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like he's been out since wait to you

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<v Speaker 1>then he was out part of training camp because he

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<v Speaker 1>had suffered another injury at training camp. I forgot what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but it was like maybe his knee or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and he was out for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's missed a lot of time on the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a feeling that it might take him

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<v Speaker 1>a little while for him to kind of get back

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<v Speaker 1>on the track and get back to football shape. Although

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna put him out there on the field

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<v Speaker 1>and in real game if it's not ready. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I think it's gonna take him a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games to kind of go back to him

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<v Speaker 1>full like being him full self on the field. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move to another topic. And I'm gonna ask you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to put on your GM hats a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Baker's a guy that's been in the news here recently.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a guy that was on the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>He's drafted by the New York Giants. He was charged

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<v Speaker 1>with armed robbery, and over the last day or two

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<v Speaker 1>those charges were all dropped. At the time when he

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<v Speaker 1>was first charged, the Giants decided to cut him. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is a free agent. He's sitting out there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guess ball accounts and Dave, I'll ask you, since

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<v Speaker 1>you do the draft show, give me a scout report

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<v Speaker 1>on what you guys thought of this guy coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. From what I remember, DeAndre Baker, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>pure like classic man corner. You know, Georgia used to

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<v Speaker 1>put him out on an island. He was an elite

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<v Speaker 1>college player. I don't think he gave up a passing

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown during either of his seasons as a starter. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>average athleticism, Like he's not a freaky athlete, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was just a sticky man corner. Giants drafted him thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of three first round picks they made

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<v Speaker 1>that year. And the big thing that I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>a knock, which is interesting because of what's happened with

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<v Speaker 1>him over the last six months, is his off field

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<v Speaker 1>demeanor got a lot of bad mark People questioning how

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<v Speaker 1>much he liked football, people questioning his attitude. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a report last season that he fell asleep

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<v Speaker 1>during a meeting, that type of stuff. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you talk about any leap cover corner who

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<v Speaker 1>played at a program like Georgia, you would think he

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<v Speaker 1>would be not higher than thirtieth overall. So that probably

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<v Speaker 1>contributed to it a little bit. And I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just he had a really rough rookie season, like even

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<v Speaker 1>by rookie cornerback standards. He got picked on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>last year, So that's kind of the thumbnail, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>With that all being said and understanding where this team

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<v Speaker 1>is with regards to cornerbacks, we've talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're gonna be losing some cornerbacks presumably

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<v Speaker 1>or could lose some cornerbacks this offseason with free agency

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, would you, if you were the Cowboys GM,

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<v Speaker 1>make the decision to give this a shot, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity to go in and get this guy. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with you. Well, if I was the Cowboys GM,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be Jerry. And if I'm Jerry, I go

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<v Speaker 1>and look at it. I mean, Jerry does this is

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<v Speaker 1>what This is the type of thing that Jerry always does.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to steal players. You're trying to steal talent.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done it since, you know, since the moment he

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<v Speaker 1>got here. If Charles Haley had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>talent left and he could get him for cheap, let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in. And it doesn't always work out, Demetrius Underwood,

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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo Spellman, it doesn't work out all the time. Greg Hardy,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but he's trying to steal talent, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna look at it. I think I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to. I think they look at the situation, they

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<v Speaker 1>see is it worth the headache? And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>in the year it's been a headache enough for the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants to say, even without even knowing what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants said we're out. So that means to me,

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<v Speaker 1>there's thirty one teams available to sign them. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that Giants will be one of them because he'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>won't want to resign them that they turned their back

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<v Speaker 1>on him before they knew all the information. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but they might have known enough to say no thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jerry will look into it. Doesn't mean he'll sign them,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they'll they'll get them, but they will

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<v Speaker 1>always try to get acquired talent like this Amber, would

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<v Speaker 1>you kick the tires. That's a tough one because I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you always want to get talent, especially at an area

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<v Speaker 1>of need on your team. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm someone who doesn't want to deal with behavioral issues

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<v Speaker 1>and problems outside the field, so I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring that into the locker room or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, hearing what the head coach from the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants said and the fact that they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we made the decision that this is what's better for

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<v Speaker 1>our team not to have him on there, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that says a lot because those people know you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better than other teams do, and people from the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know we've seen it. I mean, Nick was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Jerry Jones, and we've seen it with Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones when it comes to certain players, for example, Randy Gregory,

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<v Speaker 1>very very very different story. But when you have guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you have their backs and you want to root

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<v Speaker 1>for them and all that, it just to me says

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that the fact that the Giants decided to

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<v Speaker 1>turn their backs and say by so I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pass on that, Dave. I just want to point

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<v Speaker 1>two more players real quick though, two more players and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave might even mention this, but that are on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster right now. Jordan Lewis and Lyle Collins, both of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. The Cowboys did their homework. They said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we see what's in the news, we see what's been

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<v Speaker 1>reported and all this, but let's do our homework and

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<v Speaker 1>see and they brought both of them in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there hasn't been any issues there. So I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>this the same thing. Like Amber said, everything's different, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys will at least do their homework.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to, they'd be silly not to, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they'll make their judgment from there. I would also point

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<v Speaker 1>out that, you know, you can say the Giants turned

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<v Speaker 1>their back on and maybe they did, but the charges

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<v Speaker 1>that were alleged were pretty intense, like if you go

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<v Speaker 1>read the police report from over the summer, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>sticking guns and people's phases and all kinds of crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it was the type of situation where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame a team for wanting to distance themselves

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<v Speaker 1>from that. You know, this isn't like cutting a guy

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<v Speaker 1>over a drug, you know, a marijuana arrest or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, So I think that's a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think there's a wrong answer to this,

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<v Speaker 1>like kick the tires on a first round talent, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you steal something player like Nick said, or also if

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel like he's it's not worth risking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the influence in the room that I don't blame you

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<v Speaker 1>for that either. I lean toward thinking I'd give it

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<v Speaker 1>a look just because there's really no downside. You bring

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<v Speaker 1>him in for seven weeks, see what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>If it goes great, that's great, and if it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you can let him go. So yeah, I'd probably do

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<v Speaker 1>it just because I don't. Yeah. I The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say here is I look at the Giants and

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<v Speaker 1>that actually gives me pause what they did. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why is because if he's a young guy who

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted high, that they were willing to say at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, without having all of the facts, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least all the facts that we know of, we're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, we're just gonna part ways. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think that maybe his behavior before that corroborated that

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<v Speaker 1>story enough for them, right, they could see a scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you hear something that someone did and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, uh, doesn't shock me, right, Or you hear

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<v Speaker 1>something someone didn't you're like, oh my god, really, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this might have fallen in the category maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants of doesn't shock me, And so in that situation,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, he's not playing great on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe his attitude isn't what we wanted to be. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not shocked by this. We make a move. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that would make me a little bit leary.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you mentioned, Nick, like the cowboys do this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they do. They look at situations where

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<v Speaker 1>they can steal talent and get it on the cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so I think they certainly should because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way they proceed I think they should at least

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at this, do their due diligence, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they have people who can find out more

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<v Speaker 1>information about what really happened and find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what this guy's really all about. And then if they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they can bring him in without affecting the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, if they think they can bring him in

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<v Speaker 1>and be a second chance for him where maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>his attitude wasn't great in the past, maybe they can

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<v Speaker 1>think it can get better, then do that because they

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<v Speaker 1>certainly could use the talent. We all know at the

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback position, they could definitely use a talent, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be a good thing for them long term.

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<v Speaker 1>to think. Amber has questions lined up. Amber, what you got? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I'm looking at the list of questions this question,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably should have given you guys the heads up

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<v Speaker 1>because I doubt you know this from the back of

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<v Speaker 1>your head. But yesterday, Derek, you brought up Jeff heath

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<v Speaker 1>and and what he's doing over there in Vegas when

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<v Speaker 1>you start looking at his contract compared to what the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are losing in guarantees when they decided to cut Haha,

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton Dix, how does that compares. They're a big amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money in comparison to what they did with Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>Dix versus what they could have done with Jeff Heath

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to keep him here in Dallas. No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're not that different. I think Haha, Shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>I can pull it up. Haha signed for like one year,

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half with two and a half of

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<v Speaker 1>that guaranteed. Jeff if Heath signed a two year, six

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar deal. I think, Um, yeah, Haha signed a

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<v Speaker 1>four million dollar deal. Jeff Heath signed a two year,

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollar deal. So they're very similar. And when

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<v Speaker 1>when Heath left and Haha signed, people were like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a wash or maybe even a downgrade, like at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in his career, Haha, Clinton Dix is not

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<v Speaker 1>definitively better than Jeff Heath. Um. I think that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a difference between you know, a coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the guys that really loved and knew Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Heath aren't here anymore, and the new coaching staff wanted

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that they were more familiar with, or they thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a better fit. I'm trying to hear people

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<v Speaker 1>act like letting Jeff Heath go was this stupid decision

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<v Speaker 1>based on how many fans hated him while he was here. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, that's the that's the epitome of hindsight

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty twenty. Now. To follow that up, do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys think still think that it was a bad decision

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<v Speaker 1>from the Cowboys to have decided to cut Hicklington Dicks

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<v Speaker 1>before the start of the season and even giving him

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<v Speaker 1>a trying to having him on the field. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when when you consider that they brought in Stephen Parker

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<v Speaker 1>up and up and down from the practice squad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, it's hard for us to

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<v Speaker 1>say how bad haha. It was apparently the coaches didn't

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like him at all, and and they'd let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't believe he's in the league anywhere, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's he must have been pretty bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you what you've seen out of Darien

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson and Stephen Parker and you think, well, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to thank for the veteran, it would click here at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, um. So I thought it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit early to do that, especially when you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any backups that are playing well. Your starter next to

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<v Speaker 1>lager Woods isn't doing anything really, so I would have

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<v Speaker 1>probably kept him. But again, it's hard to say we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't watching a ton of practice to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see what was happening and what wasn't happening. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I always thought it was Oh sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>always I mean, Nick is right, we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>see a whole lot, But like I remember thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>was weird, haha. Was a starter for about the first

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<v Speaker 1>four days of practice, and then he was just buried

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<v Speaker 1>on the depth chart, And I was always like, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we sure haven't had a whole lot of training camp

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<v Speaker 1>for y all toon just decide that this guy's not

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<v Speaker 1>worth a damn right off the bat, like it must

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<v Speaker 1>have been. I mean, he either must have been way

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<v Speaker 1>more atrocious than I thought, or maybe the fit just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there with the coaches. Maybe they didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about, you know, trading Everson Griffin. Maybe because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't mess with the coaches. Maybe it was a

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<v Speaker 1>situation like that. I don't know. It sure felt like

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<v Speaker 1>they abandoned the experiment early, but I'm pretty confident saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think their safety play would be significantly better

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<v Speaker 1>if he was still here. I think the mistake was

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<v Speaker 1>not investing more heavily in the offseason, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that anyway. Yeah, I'll say this that

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting part to me is, and I know, in

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<v Speaker 1>NFL terms, Dave, I think you said that the number

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<v Speaker 1>was two million that was guaranteed on that deal. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL terms, that's not a ton of money. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I look at it and say, how wrong

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<v Speaker 1>were they either in the evaluation when they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sign him or once he got here? How bad

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<v Speaker 1>did he actually play for them to just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd rather just give you two million dollars to leave us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at a position where we already we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen, we don't have a clear starter,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have players that we feel like are great.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's more of a just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>really weird situation where how bad did he have to

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<v Speaker 1>really play or how off were they in their evaluations

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<v Speaker 1>when they signed him to just give him two million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to walk away? That that's the part that really

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<v Speaker 1>baffles me here, And I don't know that we really

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer. I think part of it is in

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that if it's true that he hasn't signed

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<v Speaker 1>with anyone to this point, then that may tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that maybe we made the evaluation or the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys made the evaluation that was very different than a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other teams, and that the other teams are liking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way we're taking this guy, and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>were willing to give him two million dollars to just

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<v Speaker 1>walk away and go sit at home. Now, let's switch

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<v Speaker 1>the subject over to the quarterback position. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all assume that Andy Dalton might be the starter this weekend. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you can start answering this question, what would you say

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<v Speaker 1>is the length of Dalton's leash as far as at

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<v Speaker 1>what point how many games do the Cowboys give him

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<v Speaker 1>and for them to maybe decide, Okay, maybe he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the right fit, and then maybe we need to let

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Gilbert play as the quarterback. One if he's terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>two if it's if he's okay, but they lose, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the second one is not very you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>very good either. But if it's terrible in Minnesota one

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>But but but you gotta be careful. You gotta be

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>careful right now with all that, and you the Cowboys

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared for a lot of things going

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>into this, one of them being get Garrett Gilbert ready

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to play against Washington. And I think it was Chris

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Beam that pointed this up. Chris, our producer, said, you

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<v Speaker 1>better get a backup snapper, you better get another quarterback,

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you better get a backup hunter kicker, because if something

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>happens in this game with the COVID rules, you don't

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>have enough time to get another player for Thursday to

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>bring him in here and all that. So that that

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>being said, you better get guys ready to go. I'm

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>giving Dalton one game. If he's if he's not good

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>at all, then then I'm gonna go to Gilbert. And

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not a very long leash. But that's how close

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>it is for me right now, Derek or Dave, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Um, I mean, if Andy is just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>god awful, like just Utrid on Sunday, then I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably one game. Like I mean, if he just absolutely

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>looks terrible quarters right, yeah, I mean, but I I

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>guess my point. I just I just I'll be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if that happens, Like I'll be pretty surprised if

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>he is awful. So I mean I could stand to

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<v Speaker 1>be corrected, but my guess is. As long as he

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<v Speaker 1>looks decent, I think he's the starter, and as long

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<v Speaker 1>as Dallas is mathematically alive, you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if they're trading wins and losses, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>the starter the rest of the way. If they lose

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the next three games and they're two and ten, then

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you probably want to look at Garrett Gilbert. Um.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>So as as long as he doesn't look god awful,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the starter as long as they're still

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<v Speaker 1>technically in the division race. But I mean if he

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<v Speaker 1>just looks terrible against Minnesota, then I think you have

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to change that line of thinking. Yeah, you know, to

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, if you guys listen to Jerry

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this morning on the radio, he made it seem as

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>though like that's his guy. Andy is his They brought

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>him in for this purpose exactly if you had to

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>put a quarterback in. He feels like he has the

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<v Speaker 1>most experience. He is, as Jerry called him this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a starter. He is a starter caliber quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. I don't think anybody's saying that necessarily

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>about Garrett Gilbert. So as much as we all may

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>see think that, I personally, don't think that the Cowboys

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>are thinking that. I think, when it comes down to it,

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<v Speaker 1>unless there is a situation where he is just playing

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>just really horrible football, I think that down for the

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>rest of the season, unless he's injured or unless COVID

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>pops back up. I think Andy Dalton is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be your starter, and they're gonna see how they do

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.719
<v Speaker 1>with Andy Dalton as a starter, because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>believe in his experience and they want to take advantage

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>of the experience, and that's why they brought him here,

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>is to be able to take advantage of the experience.

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>So he's gonna have to be really, really awful in

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>order for them to not play him and go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert, That's funny because you guys keep talking about

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<v Speaker 1>being awful, and then I'm just here thinking, Okay, be

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>fine awful because already, so what's the level of awful? Okay, Cardinals, Cardinals,

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, Washington such a wash. Okay, that was

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>just terrible the way the whole thing was set up

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>for failure there, And I think you'll see that next

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Thursday when they play. I think it'll be a much

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>different type of game. Zach Martin will help a lot there.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>The weather obviously everything's going to be different. But Arizona

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>they it wasn't all his fault. He didn't get a

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 1>lot of help. He got some drop passes, but he

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that great either, and they only had three points

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>until everybody went to bed, and then they scored another touchdown.

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's kind of borderline here. You're playing

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 1>about equal type team Minnesota Arizona. Arizona is better than Minnesota,

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 1>but you know they're they're about close to equal. And

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't play well, they has a field goal

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>through most of the game. That's pretty awful for me.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>See I I think, I mean, I hear you. I'm

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>not saying Andy was good against Arizona, but just looking

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>at it, you know, he completed sixty three percent for

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>two sixty six. Let him on a couple of score drives. Again,

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>not saying they played great, they got their asses kicked.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But if he can do that, I think he stays in.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It's more like if he's posting the line like Ben

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>da Nucci did in Philly or you know Carson Winson Philly,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>where you're struggling to even approach two hundred yards passing,

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, four yards per attempt, something terrible like that.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>That's where I think you have to make a change.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>But he at least looked like a competent quarterback against Arizona,

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think he would have to be worse than

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that to get pulled. Yeah, I think honestly, it's gonna

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>cut down two turnovers and it's gonna come down to

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>missing opportunities. So if regularly the coaches us seeing this

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>guy is open, he missed the read, he didn't get

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball there, he missed the throw, or and or

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I should say he's turning the ball over. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>throwing interceptions, if he's getting sack fumbles where he's just

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>giving the ball away. I think those are two things

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that I think would quickly define for them that he's

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>playing poorly. And if you get to that situation, then

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they make him. We heard Mike McCarthy

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about how one of the keys for him right

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>now with this team is trying to solve the turnover issue.

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>So if he takes it back to where they were

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago, where they're turning the ball over

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>at this you know, crazy rate and he's doing two

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>or three turnovers the game, then I think that could

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>get him pulled. Do you have something right? Well, let's

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>take our final. Okay, I thought you had something good. Sorry,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't say nake on my screen, so I didn't

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>know if he was about to talk or not. I mean,

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I always have something, but I mean I'll just yeah,

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>let me throw this part in. If it's not that great,

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>do you get an advantage by starting Gilbert against Washington?

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Now Washington hasn't seen him. They prepared for Dalton and

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it was well for them. Gilbert would give them maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a new look. You only have a short amount of

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>time to do that. But I'm just saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not that great, and we know how it

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>is on Thanksgiving, there's always a spark, there's always something.

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It would be a similar type atmosphere and maybe to

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the to the Pittsburgh game, even though you'd have more

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>home fans, I'm sure, but I'm just saying, it's it's

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that festive feeling. I think Gilbert, if it's not good,

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>if they lose, they lose in a bad way against Minnesota,

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 1>I think I could see that switch and it might

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>given an advantage as Washington hasn't prepared for him yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see what happens pretty soon. Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Derek. I have a long question, so bear

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<v Speaker 1>with me and be patient. We keep talking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the draft and all that. So here's a draft question. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboys finished with the worst record in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any chance that they decide to draft a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback or Trevor Lawrence and let dakhnt free agency in

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<v Speaker 1>order for them to be able to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>the lower cap number and therefore be able to show

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<v Speaker 1>up on defense and fix the issues on the O line,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically, to save money so they can fix other

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>issues around the team. This is going to be the

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>debate that doesn't go away as long as the Cowboys

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>are in the top five of the draft order, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see, you know, obviously, we'll see how that pans out.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a very interesting topic of conversation because

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking a hell of a risk that any rookie

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback is ever going to be better than what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen from Dak Prescott. Having said that you know, Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is probably and honestly, I think the world of

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields too. I think those are maybe the best

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 1>pair of quarterback prospects that have come out since Andrew

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Luck and Robert Griffin were at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>draft in twenty twelve. And to be blunt, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys would be doing their jobs correctly as

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<v Speaker 1>a front office if they didn't at least consider it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also one, I don't think they're going to

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>be drafting in the top two and two. I think

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott is that good that it's probably not worth

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the risk of letting him walk. So I don't think

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you're crazy for asking the question, but I don't think

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen either. I think the Cowboys I

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>agree with it. I agree with that with what Dave said.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they will be drafting right up there,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know close enough to at least talk about it.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about last year this point last year,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone was saying the Dolphins or other teams might tank

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>for Tuah. Well, twa ends up fifth, right or fifth

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>or sixth, so he fell a little bit. So I'm

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>not saying Lawrence is gonna fall, but I'm saying we

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>don't really know how everything's gonna always shake out. But

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I I just I think the Cowboys going to do

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>their homework and evaluate these quarterbacks. And if Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>is the number one quarterback, a number one player on

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the board and all of that, and he's one of

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the best they've seen and all this time, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to consider that because yes, he's

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a rookie quarterback, but you know you put him in.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>This team was designed to be that way. I mean,

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they brought in a rookie quarterback and he had success

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>because of how it was built. Now it's it's not

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>built that way now, but it can get rebuilt that

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>way if you had an extra thirty one million dollars

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>sitting around like you do this year. So I think

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to consider it. I mean, if you're up

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>there and Trevor Lawrence is definitely the guy that they

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>think is one of the best quarterbacks has come out

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>in recent years. You know, I'll point out a couple

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of things on this. The first thing is when they

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>brought in Dak obviously they didn't expect Dak to be

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>what Dak became. But what made Dak so successful initially

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>as a young quarterback was the fact that he had

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a great offensive line. And I'm not certain how much

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>stock I put in this offensive line going into next year.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they got some good parts. I think they

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>got some really good players. I just don't know what

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 1>the health the situation will be for some of them,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and so I don't know what where the offensive line stands.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>But that all being said, the way I look at

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>this is if you're in the top two, there is

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 1>going to be a ransom to be paid by a

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams who are looking for quarterbacks to get

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>into those top two. So you can look at it

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>two different ways. And you looked at it from the

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>standpoint of do you restart the clock essentially on the

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>rookie quarterback and have those years or you don't have

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to worry about paying a quarterback and invest those resources

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in the defense. I'll look at another way of do

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to trade back get, like I said, a

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>ransom of picks from a team that's willing to jump up,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that wants to jump up to be able to get

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a shot at one of those two quarterbacks and then

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>use those picks in order to restart your defense. That's

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the way I would prefer to do it, because I'm

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a bird in the hand kind of guy. If I've

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>already got a quarterback, I don't know that I'm trying

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the well. Even if I think

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I might marginally get better at quarterback. I think I

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>got a quarterback that's good enough to win championships with.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I say, if you get to the

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 1>top two, you you trade back, you get more picks,

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 1>You use those picks to re infuse into your defense,

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe an offensive lineman, and you see where you go

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>from there. I'm all in on DAK. I stick with DAK.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't make I don't. I don't change that up now.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't. I should know this by heart based on

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>me covering this team in the NFL for like six years.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But I forget dates and all of that every single year.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>So when you look out free agency and the draft

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and all that draft is in late April, I believe,

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and which basically, which decision do you need to make first?

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Either figure out what you're gonna do with DAC or

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>wait until the draft to see if you get a

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>chance to possibly draft a quarterback. You have to tag

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Dac by sometime in February. I don't know the date

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:27.959
<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head, but it's the same

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>every year. The deadline to use the franchise tag is

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>usually two weeks to a month before the start of

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>free agency. That's I mean, I've been saying that forever.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why the Cowboys need this money. That's why they're

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 1>not using it. Is like they have to tag Dak.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the odds of them getting a deal done between

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season and the start of free

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>agency it's not impossible. It's also not very likely. That

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>does not happen very often because players want to hit

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the market. They don't want to do the hard work

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>for the team. They want to see what they can

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>get offered. So Dak will need to be tagged by February.

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would tag him like the day after

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the season ends, just to get it out of the way,

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you go from there. You don't have to

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>sign him long term. You can keep him on the

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>tag and see what happens, you know, whether that's draft

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>capital or potential trades and all that stuff. But he's

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna need to be tagged very soon after the season.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Hey Dave, Dave, I have a question for you on that.

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you believe the reports that were out

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>there that this last offseason that on the actual final

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>day to actually do a long term deal, that the

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and Dak's people were getting closer and they basically

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>ran out of time. Do you do you put any

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>stock in those reports? Because the reason why I asked

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.799
<v Speaker 1>that is, if you put stock in those reports, maybe

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>they're ready to do a deal. Once the new season

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 1>opens and they say, hey, you can sign your guys,

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're ready to do a deal. If they were

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>getting close at that point and they still feel the

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>same way about one another. I think I believe that

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they started talking, like you know, I don't think it

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>was dramatic. I don't think that they were like trying

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to get the signatures on the paper and they ran

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>out of time. You know, I think they they probably

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I buy that they talked and they like

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe made some progress. But if you were close enough

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it might have gotten signed, it

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>would have gotten signed. So I don't completely buy that.

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, it's it's definitely possible. Maybe Dak's

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>injury changes some things as well. You know, maybe maybe

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Dak would agree to a deal that he's that he

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have before because of what's going on with his ankle.

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I tend to doubt that. That's just a guess on

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>my part from what I know about Dak. So I

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>really I don't view this as being any different than

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it was. They're rehabbing everything, all right, Um, what are

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you gonna say something? Nick? Now? Go ahead? Okay, Well,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll just post this this question to you first. Uh, you, Derek,

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you brought up the whole current Old Line situation. So

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>going back to that and what the current what the

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys currently have there and the issues that we've seen

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>based on that group starters and backups. Um, how viable

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>does it look for twenty twenty one or how much

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>resources are you thinking that the Cowboys are going to

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>have to put into the Old Line this upcoming year? Yeah?

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I do think that they're going to have to address that, um,

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>and that the sad part is is that they have

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>been addressing it. I mean maybe not at tackle, but

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>they they've continued to do that. I Mean, Connor McGovern

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>was just a pick in the third round because that

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>he was he had high value and they said, you know,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll need to use him at some point. And they've

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>addressed it. It It with addressed it with Connor Williams, uh,

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the year before and and Tyler Beatis this

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.359
<v Speaker 1>year and on fifth round. But but I know they

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 1>have addressed it. I think they have to address the

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>tackle position one way or another. You know, get get

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>solid back up in here or future guy, or you know,

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe you draft the guy. I know that there's

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>some talk there. Day would know this on the draft show.

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess the guy from Oregon that's opting out and

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>who could be a clear cut tackle at some point,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>could start off at guard the way Lyle did or

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Flows l Adams or whatever. Maybe put him in at

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>guard until he's really ready to play tackle. So there's

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>options there. But yeah, yes, yeah, I think you do

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>need to address it even more now. It's funny because

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel like sort of a Sunshine pumper

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the offensive line, because I mean,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I do agree you do need to address it. They

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>need they need a better swing tackle, and whether that's

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in the draft, I mean probably needs to be in

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the draft, because, like we've talked about, signing one in

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>free agency would be very expensive. But you know, Lyle

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Collins is twenty seven years old. I feel optimistic that

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be just fine when he's had a

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>chance to rehab his surgery and Tyrn Smith unless he's retired.

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this to sound mean, but you're kind

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of stuck with him, Like they just restructured his deal.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>They pushed his money back to make room for Dack's contract,

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>so they can't like cut him or anything or trade

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>him without it being you know, this crazy hit on

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>their salary cap. So I would imagine you're going to

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>rehab him and hope that him having surgery means he'll

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>be okay. And then between you know, you still have

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, still have Connor McGovern, you still have Zach Martin,

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and you have Tyler Beatis. That seems pretty nice on

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the interior. So really we're just talking about needing a

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>third tackle and whether, you know, if they want a

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>draft Pennaya Sewell, I think that's how you say his name.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the Oregon guy that seems that seems awfully dramatic

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, like drafting a swing tackle in the top ten,

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and I get that he could be your starter in

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the future, but that still feels really dramatic. But if

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>he's the best player available, go for it. And either way,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean sometime in the first three rounds of the draft,

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they probably need a draft a tackle. Yeah, my question

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>would be if you if you were going after that

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Oregon tackle, can he play guard? Because if he can

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.479
<v Speaker 1>play guard, then that that spans you, right, that gives

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you an opportunity to get him on the field because

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>he'll be one of your best five and he'll take

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Connor spot there at guard, and maybe Connor becomes your

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle, or he's your swing tackle in the event

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>of long term injury um and then at whatever point

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>they move on from Tyron or Tyrn retires, then you

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>just slide him right in and he's ready to roll.

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't completely

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>push that idea out of mind if he can play guard.

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>But but you're right, if he's not gonna play guard,

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>then taking a top ten pick and having him a

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>guy that's gonna be on the bit on the sideline

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 1>with all the problems you got on this team, Like,

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a bad idea. I think. Right now, here's

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a finale question going into what you just said, Derek.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, we keep talking about these old linemen that

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>have the flexibility, and we're always questioning, oh, is he

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna play tackle or is he gonna be a guard

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>or maybe center or whatever. I mean when you when

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you look into address whatever position on the old line,

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>are you still wanting a guy that has that kind

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of flexibility to be moved around the line or are

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you looking more for someone that's more stuck at a

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>certain position that you know it's going to be there,

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that maybe has more experience at let's say tackle, for example,

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>versus to someone that's like, you're still where are we

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna play? Stam guard or tackle? So which way would

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you go? Someone that's strictly more one position or someone

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that still has that kind of flexibility That I'll answer

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that because I think that that's a very good question,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's very good and it changes based off of

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>where you're picking. I can think of two examples, one

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of them played for the Cowboys, but two examples where

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>players were drafted very high because they were supposed to

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>be great great players, so you have to play them

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>at left tackle. But it turns out they weren't very

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>good there. They were veter at guard. Robert Gallery was

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>one was picked two overall by the Raiders, and Leonard Davis,

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>picked by the Cardinals, eventually went to the Cowboys. You're

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.439
<v Speaker 1>not gonna draft a guard at number two, at least

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you didn't back then. But they drafted him at tackle.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>They played them there. You know. You see it in

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the NBA all the time too. These guys that are

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>drafted tenth, eleventh overall, they're not that great until they

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the next team and they're a role player

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's what they're better at. So it's a tricky,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>tricky part. If you get those guys in the second

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and third round, I think that's where you love to

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>have the flexibility. They can play different spots for you.

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>It'll be great backups for you. But if you draft

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>them high, I mean, position flex is one, but I'd

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>rather have a stud at one spot and say this

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is where he's gonna play. I will say this too.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Typically when you're drafting that high, the ability of those guys,

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the athletic ability of those guys typically means that you

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>do have to position flexibility. It's kind of like Zach

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 1>farther there. Zack Martin is a great player, you can

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>move him to other spots. Now they're gonna keep him

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>at guard, and they've kept him at guard, and they've

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>only had him play a tackle in emergency situations. But

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I have no doubt that Zach Martin is such a

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>talented player that you could probably put him anywhere on

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and he'd be at least okay, if

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>not great. Right, So I think when you're drafting that high,

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be in most instance the guys

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>probably can do a little different things. That is, those

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>are interesting names others you brought up, Nick. We have

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 1>seen that happening from time to time, where guys get

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>drafted high to play tackle because that's what you need

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to that's where you need to put him if you're

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna use that much draft capital. But you find out

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>later they're they're better guards, and uh, And I think

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>that happens from time to time. But again, I think

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>with this whole situation and just in general, I think

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>it is a general good principle that a player is

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>more valuable if he has position flexibility because that does

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>allow you to be the ability to move him if

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to, and Dave you'll you'll probably you'll know this.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It seems like teams are willing to draft guards a

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit higher, especially if if there's a you know,

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>clear cook. I know Quinton Nelson was one, but it

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>seems like there's been others that you could draft if

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got a stud there, you're not a ready to

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>take guard that high now, I mean, I think you can.

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I think Zach Martin deserves a lot of credit for that.

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know, sixteenth overall is not like crazy high,

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>but Brandon Shurff is another one in Washington. Quinton Nelson's like,

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, probably the best offensive line prospect that's come

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>out in the last five years. Yeah, I think, I mean,

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>people see the value in that a lot more than

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they used to. Like it used to be a thing

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>of you know, oh, guards not somewhere you need to

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>draft in the first round. But we know better than

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>most that a really top notch one can make a

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.479
<v Speaker 1>world of difference. So it's you know, I don't bat

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>an eyelash at this point when guards go in the

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>top ten, and if that's the best option. Yeah, by

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>all means, let me throw one more point out before

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>we end the show. This is I know there's so

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>much talking. You can't go anywhere without people saying they

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.959
<v Speaker 1>should tank, they should they should get a high draft picked,

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and all this kind of stuff. But if they if

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they do get into the playoffs and they say, you're

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting at eighteen or so, this team has so many

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>needs that you can still get value throughout the draft.

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if safety is in the middle of

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the of the you know, first round, and you take

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy there, you need one for sure, you need

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to actually a guard. Could you could maybe justify that

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:18.879
<v Speaker 1>if he had some position flex If you're sitting there

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>around eighteen or so, maybe tied end. I think they're

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>okay with with Jarwin. I'm just talking about positions that

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>typically don't go super high. But you're sitting there, You're

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna need everything. Defensive tackle, you need everything. So I'm

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>not too worried about it. If you can sneak into

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and bill caromaraderie there, you still have some

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:41.399
<v Speaker 1>some opportunities to get a good player in anywhere really

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in the first round because you need us so much.

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't completely disagree with you. I mean,

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>if there's one thing where Cowboy fans, if there's one

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that you can trust this team to do for

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the most part, it's draft well. And you know, I

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>know they picked Taco over t J. Watt, but their

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>track record over the last decade speaks for itself in

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of finding talent. I think the thing when you know,

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about tanking the season, it's not so

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>much the first round pick. It's that you're picking at

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the top of every other round. So let's say if

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you're picking, you know, just like twenty sixteen, if you're

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 1>picking fourth overall, that also makes you're picking thirty thirty five,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you're picking sixty five, and so now you're you know,

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>if you if you view the top one hundred as

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that are instant difference makers, you've got a chance

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to draft as many as four guys that could compete

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>for starting time right away. I think that's that's what

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>makes it more like, that's what makes it so exciting,

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 1>more so than having that top ten pick, in my opinion.

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think the other thing to consider there too

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>is and we won't know this until we get a

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>little deeper into the draft, and by the way, we're

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be starting the draft show this year in December.

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing to consider there is how deep

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>are each of these positions where the Cowboys need help? Right,

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Because if you've got a position that is top heavy,

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and let's say, for example, as the safety position its

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 1>top heavy, I'm not saying it is, but if it

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is and you're drafting later, now your opportunities to be

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>able to get one in the first round or in

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>any subsequent round is diminished because of the fact that

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>it's not as deep of a position. So I think

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we got to figure out two, what's the depth that

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 1>each of these positions, how much talent is going to

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.760
<v Speaker 1>be there, and all the opportunities to get really talented

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>players in the second, third, fourth round and later in

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>those second, third, fourth rounds. Um. So we appreciate you guys,

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm gonna saying we'll talk about this for

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>about the last seven weeks. We will talk about this,

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>this a lot about tanking and all this stuff. But

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's just for for media. It's it's not

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some later or not just kind of blase

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>fans really, but it's not for the team, and it's

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>not for diehard fans. It's just something that you wish

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they would get. You know, it would be nice to

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:56.839
<v Speaker 1>have it, but there's no way to go about it.

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't play for it. You don't. You don't go

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>out and play your games that way. So you know

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. That's why talking about the draft and

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff this early is I think sometimes it could be

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>pointless because you don't know what you're gonna get, and

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the team is gonna go out to try to win.

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna try to play for it. It's just

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>media that say I don't have a dog in the

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>fight that just won a high draft pick. Well, not

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to get us too far into discussion, I don't think

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:23.919
<v Speaker 1>it's I think there are some diehard fans out there

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that would prefer the Cowboys to have a higher pick

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>than Yes, Nick, you can't speak for all, Oh you can,

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you can't a higher pick. Prefer a higher pick. Prefer

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a higher pick. And what I mean by that is

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>not to lose to Washington. Okay, what I'm saying is

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't lose. I don't think either one of the

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think either one of us can speak for

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>every fan out there, and I think there are some

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.839
<v Speaker 1>die hard fans that would probably call into this show

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>or eat or text this show, and I've seen them

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter that would say that they they prefer that

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys don't necessarily win. They love what they saw

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:00.879
<v Speaker 1>last week, which is a competitive team that plays hard

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and still ends up with a loss at the end

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of the day. What they really want is that top

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 1>notch pick, because they think that has more value than

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the possibility to get into the playoffs and losing in

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the first round. That that's fine, that that's not a

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>die hard. I'm talking about the die hards, not talking

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>about fans that are fans of the team. I'm talking

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>about the ones that die hard. Trust me, I have

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a college football team. I don't want him to lose. Ever, Yeah,

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 1>because you don't get draft picks. I'm not losing. Yeah,

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Why don't

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 1>we start this con thirty minutes and really, Needy and

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the show and the show, all right, tell you what,

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, let's talk about it. We'll talk about it. Well,

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>they're they're just not die hards. That's all I'm saying.

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>They're not die hards. If you want them to go

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and lose to that game, Okay, they didn't like the stealers.

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Here's what we're gonna mentions. They're gonna be interesting. I know.

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's what we're gonna do. Here's what and that's not

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>really any different than any other day. And Nick just

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>mutes him and says, leam now. But but the point is,

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. They will not say I want them

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to lose and I'm a diehard. Doesn't happen, doesn't happen.

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's what we're gonna do. I do think, doesn't you're

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>not a diehard. I think that you didn't die. I

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do think this is a conversation that we can pick

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 1>back up, and maybe we'll pick it up on Friday

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>as a as a topic in our in in one

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.799
<v Speaker 1>of our segments Friday, we'll pick it up and talk

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about it. Until then, though, for

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eagleton.

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