1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: dot Com. The Giants part of the Giants Podcast. Welcome 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: to a divisional preview edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by psc and G Energy Efficiency For 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: game time and anytime, visit p SEG dot com slash 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Giant for discounts, rebates and home energy assessments. Hello everybody, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: my name is John Schmilk. This is our normal podcast 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: before the game edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. Make 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: sure you go back check out our previous episodes. My 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: interview make Mike Mayock a couple of days ago was fantastic. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Mike Mayock called the game Giants vikings last week. Make 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: sure you check that out. And we have our Wednesday 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: night special w f A N divisional playoff preview on 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the Giant Subtle Podcast as well, So go and check 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: that out. Big show coming your way today. First, we 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: will have a Dory Jackson Giants cornerback who came back 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: for the playoffs this year off that knee injury, did 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a good job against Justin Jefferson last week. We're gonna 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: have Zach Berman, who covers the Philadelphia Eagles from the 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Athletic you'll break down everything goals with Paul Latino on 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow. And finally we're going to be joined by 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. He says 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: it sits down with the voice of the Giants Bob Papa. 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's get right to it here, folks. Remember 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: go subscribe to the Johnson podcasts on Giants dot Com, 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: The Giant, Small Black, and of course find it and 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: subscribe on your favorite podcast platforms. We lead off with 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: my conversation with the Dory Jackson Dory short week. You 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: played a lot of snaps last week after not played 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: football for a very long time. How did your body 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: hold up? How are you feeling? Body held up pretty well. Um. 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: We do a good job of taking care of our 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: bodies here with different things with you know, recovery, UM foods, 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: we use um in the weight room, and then coach 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: obviously takes care of care of us as well. UM, 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: give us the right things like you know, massage, just needling, 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: whatever we may need to be able to get ready 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: to go for the game on Saturday. In the game 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: against Minnesota, was there a point where, like, damn, I 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: could use a series here or were you pretty good 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the whole game? All smooth the whole game? Um? I 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: just think the one is competition time. I think everything 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: else goes out the window. You know. It's one of 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: those things where people say when you get tired, it's 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: really a mental thing. I really think it is, um 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: and mentally you just got either hone in on your technique, 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: your crap and your job what you have to do. 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: And I always try to think that if I'm tired, 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the opponent is tired as well. 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: So uh, I don't really try to much think too 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: much about being winded or gas or anything like that. 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: Just keep going and playing for my brothers. Yeah, I 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time out last week, 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: but I should ask you about the job you guys 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: did on Justin Jefferson. You shattered him, but it was 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: a team effort, right, You have safety over the top 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: of safety bracketing, and I thought, you know, the scheme 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: was great for fans in Lehman's terms, Can you just 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: explain for fans how is a team you guys came 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: together to really you know, keep Justin Jefferson under control? 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, it was a great, great, uh defensive 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: game plan. Um, like you said, a collective effort. I 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: mean obviously it shows you know, I was, I was 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: on them, but we did a great job communicating, um 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: talking and you know we knew. UM. I guess you 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: can say certain things or routes that may happen or occur, um, 67 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: and so we were just playing. Um. You you can't 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: take everything away, but when you play with someone or 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: with each other and play for each other and you're 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: all on the same page, it makes the job, UM 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: go a lot smoother. I don't want to say easier, 72 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: because um, they're gonna make play as well, but it 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: makes your job a little more smoother. And understanding that 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: you can play off each other, and that's what helps 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: throughout the week. I mean, you see it on game 76 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: days that how it looks, but throughout the week it 77 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: takes a lot of prep and work to understand you 78 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: know your job, your assignment, and just do your job. 79 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Are we seeing this defense evolve a little bit as 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Xavier's gone back and now you're back to you know, 81 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: when played more quarters defense that I've ever maybe ever 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: seen in play last week. You know, people think it's 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: a Blitzer, right, are we seeing this defense evolve into 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: something that can now really be different, very different every 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: week based on the opponent. I think just with the 86 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: players that we have and the trust that we've gained 87 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: and from from Wink and he's gained from us, you know, 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: just going out there and executing you know, all the 89 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: things that he wants us to do. And it goes 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: back to you know, throughout the week, UM, doing your job, 91 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: understanding your job, and if you have some uncertainties, just 92 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: talking over you know, us watching film UM, us doing um, 93 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: you know, meeting earlier or after whatever it may be, 94 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: and going through and walking through certain things so we 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: can have that visual rep in um and then mentally 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: get us prepared. So I just think collective of us 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: all coming in watching film together, even after or whatever 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: it may be, to make sure we can all talk 99 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and speak the same language and see the same things. 100 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: So it's no misconception when we're all throw on the field. 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: What's the impact on opponents when you can show up 102 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: any week and your defense can look very different. UM. 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: I think the thing that stands out when you see us, 104 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: it's just us having fun, you know, flying to the ball, 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: Levin has to the ball and playing for each other, 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, the grit to fight and understanding that. Um. 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, they get paid to make plays too. 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to make a snap it, you know, 109 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: snap it again, snap it again, snap again, whatever, maybe, um, 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and not try to let the easy ones get them 111 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: get you. So I think for us, I think you 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: can see that on film just flying to the ball. 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: Levin has to the ball, playing for each other and um, 114 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: being there for each other and picking someone up. Do 115 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: you see the opposing quarterback though, sometimes having to take 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: that extra beat or two when he might have read 117 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: something pre snap, and then all of a sudden he 118 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: snaps and and it turns out to be something a 119 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: little bit different. I think that's the game within the 120 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: game with any you know, the same thing with with offenses. 121 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: On the defense, the same thing. You know, um, everybody's 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: trying to discuss something or you can say offense, you 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: know they line running back outside, bring them back in 124 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: the C. I D formation or or emotion or receiver 125 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: here there. Um. I think it's the same thing with defense, 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: just trying to you know, play the game within the game, 127 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: but make sure that you're gonna do your job at 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: the same time. You know, before we got here, my 129 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: impression of him, and it turned out to be wrong 130 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: quite frankly, you know, Mr Blitz, You know send guys 131 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: play a lot of man. I don't know what your 132 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: impression was before he got here, but has his variety 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: and and just the creativity and his the way he 134 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: can change week in week out. Has that even been 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise for you guys on defense based on 136 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: what you kind of thought of him before you actually 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: got in the room with him. Um, I think he's 138 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: he talked to us about that when he first got here. 139 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: UM saying, No, obviously, we go through the installed, we 140 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: see all the different things that we can do and 141 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: what he wants he wants us to do, and he 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: ultimately said, you know this, the defense is is is 143 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: your car, and we're gonna give you the key. And uh, 144 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: he trust in us, and we gained that trust as well. 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: UM going out to EXECU and studying heart UM, making 146 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: sure that we knew our assignment and knew our jobs, 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: and to be able to do different things, to be 148 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: able to play fast, have fun, and then to to 149 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: showcase you know, different things that we do Dexter Lawrence, 150 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: what's the impact of his ability to get pressure up 151 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: in the middle. And Leonard for that matter, he had 152 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: a real good game last week too. On you guys 153 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: in the second and when you go back and watch 154 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: the game on tape afterwards, it's cool to have that presence, 155 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, an interior to be able to um affect 156 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: the game like that. Um. It goes hand in hand. 157 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Um the ball is to be able to come out 158 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: quick and then in that's aspect we're able to make 159 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: plays or if the quarterback holds the ball a little 160 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: too long, then the interior gets to make play. So 161 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: having those two, you know, in tiering and having some 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: great edge rushes as well, um Man, they put in 163 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of hard work and I'm just you know, 164 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: thankful that you know, everybody else gets to see it 165 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and get to see the fun that we have and 166 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: to be able to play with them, and the world 167 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: gets to see you know, those guys shine. No, you 168 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: haven't played a J. Brown yet this year, but you 169 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: obviously very familiar with him from your time in Tennessee. 170 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: What makes him different? What makes him special? I think 171 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: what makes him different is I think his mentality. I 172 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: would say to go out there and to to attack it, 173 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: and to one to achieve and and and strive for 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: greatness and set out to be the best. UM. And 175 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: that also makes him special. Um. He has a unique 176 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: set of skills when you catch the ball to be 177 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: able to turn it up the field. You know, UM, 178 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: everybody you know, like I say, just a strong, powerful guy, 179 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: but you have some speed as well. Um can get 180 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: in and out of his brakes. Um. I just feel like, 181 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, he does a lot of things well that 182 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: you would want to receiver. You know, can run every route, 183 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: can block and if you put them in the backfield, 184 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, or give him something, you know, a quick 185 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: handoff whatever, maybe he can turn it up to So 186 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: I feel like he just, uh does everything that you 187 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: want for offensive player. You mentioned this running after catchability. 188 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Do you have to treat him like you would have 189 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: running back given his size once he has the ball 190 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: in the sands when you're trying to bring them down. 191 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just make sure you're a sure tackler, um, 192 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: and um securing the tackle. I just think that's that's 193 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the key. UM. And then I said, Leven has to 194 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: the ball, you know, regardless of who you're playing. If 195 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: they're running back or receiver. There are players I can 196 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: running back or whatever may be. You always want to 197 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: put the leven hasts to the ball because you don't 198 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: want to just you know, you see a lot of 199 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: times on him. You assume somebody else makes a tack 200 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: on they break it. And you know with the league 201 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: that we're now and all these officsive players are very 202 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: skilled and can break tackles. You want to make sure 203 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of you're flying around and and playing 204 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: to your help. You know, this is why the league 205 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: is great. There are the wide receiver Davante Smith literally 206 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: weighs like sixty pounds less than a J. Brown, but 207 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: he's also really good. Right, So what makes it? What 208 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: makes DeVante Smith a tough cover? Um? I would say 209 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the same thing. I think his mentality um like you said, 210 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: sixty pounds um um lighter than a j but doesn't 211 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: play like it. Um you know has a great catch radius. 212 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: You know both of the both of them do um 213 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: like I said, could run a short route, run a 214 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: deep route, intermediate uh and the run after catch me 215 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: if you Obviously the forties may say something else, but 216 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: when they get on the field, you always see football 217 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: speed is different from you know, training speeder or maybe 218 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: so when you're out there on the field, they're able 219 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: to to to take of the distance um And I 220 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: think that's what makes them special, you know, especially with 221 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: DeVonta and aj that the mentality to want to be great, 222 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: stripe for greatness and then just saying put it on 223 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: me and I'm gonna make a play. And I think 224 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: those are two dynamic receivers, a great dynamic dual. And 225 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: I think the scary thing about the Eagles offense, as 226 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: good as those two guys are dory, they run the 227 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: ball really well, right, They're great at run it. So 228 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I want to start with j One Hurts because he's 229 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: improved so much. As a pass of this year, he 230 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: has been great. But I really think his running is 231 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of the lynchpin of what they do. Right. Can 232 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: you talk about how his ability to scramble and even 233 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: keep it on design runs can open things up for 234 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: guys like Miles Sanders and created some conflict for you 235 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: guys in the secondary when you gotta keep your eye 236 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: on him but also cover these wide receivers. I think 237 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: the good thing, the unique thing that I like about 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: him is he doesn't really go out there and say 239 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run the ball, you know what I mean. 240 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: He's out there standing in the pocket showing that you 241 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: can throw the ball, showing that he can make those 242 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: throws that a lot of people doubt him in about. 243 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: And you know it's like you said, um, I'm happy, 244 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you know to see that and to see him strive 245 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: and succeed and be a great quarterback in this league. 246 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: And then again it's when things where he can actually 247 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: put it on the ground and run if he wants to. 248 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: But um, that's one of those things where you just 249 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: gotta do your job, man, and trust that you know 250 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the guys up front going to do there is and 251 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: for us just plaster because if he does scramble or 252 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: get out, you know, he may throw the ball, he 253 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: may run. You just never know. But just do your 254 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: job and just keep running and keep fighting. What makes 255 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: their running game difficult to defend? Um, they've got so 256 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: many weapons, you know what I mean. They can they 257 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: can run the ball on the quarterback and run the ball, 258 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: the running back run the ball. Receiver may run the ball. 259 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: They can you know, uh, with this league now r 260 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: P O so it's a it's an extension of the 261 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: run game, and they have just different aspects. So UM 262 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: to be able to have a lot of miss missdirection 263 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and different concepts to the running game. UM, that's pretty unique. 264 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what makes them them different 265 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and it makes them, you know, a great team to 266 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: be able to have a quarterback, running back or the 267 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: receiver or whatever it may be, or a screen to 268 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: playoff to be able to help them. Final question of Dory. 269 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: You know you're with a good team in Tennessee that 270 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: won a lot of games. Now you're here. Your impression 271 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: about the way this coaching staff and your teammates and 272 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: you have approached being in the playoffs? Because things change, right, 273 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: but it's still a football game. So just from what 274 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you've see in the past and what you've seen this year, 275 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: what is it about the way this team has just 276 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: generally approached this whole thing that you think has allowed 277 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: you guys to have the success that you've had so far. 278 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I think both, you know, teams enjoying the moment and 279 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: enjoying the process and being present and not thinking too 280 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: far here. Obviously, you know, there's a goal that everybody 281 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: wants to reach, and that's to win the Super Bowl. 282 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time enjoying the guy next to 283 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: you and playing for your brother and playing for each other, 284 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: understanding that this doesn't happen often and something for some 285 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen at all. So to have these experiences 286 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: and to um play, you know, another game and get 287 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: another week at the end of the day. Like you said, 288 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: it's football, but just keep having fun with it, keep 289 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: enjoying the process. And you know, it's just a blessing 290 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: to be able to play with these guys. And I 291 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: remember last year, you know, being at home the next 292 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: week and then all right, you're seeing someone else play. 293 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: It was a sickening feeling in my stomach. I know 294 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of my teammates as well. UM, So to 295 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: be able to have this moment now, to be able 296 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: to cherish it, appreciate and understand that it doesn't come often, um, 297 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: I think those are the similarities that we had, you know, 298 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: when I was in Tennessee. In here just relish and 299 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: in the moment, being present, being thankful, but playing for 300 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: each other, having fun. And then finally I'll sneak with 301 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: more in when you hurt your m C. L. And 302 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: was serious injury, took you a long time to get back. 303 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Does this make it all worth it? All that hard 304 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: work and rehab you put in. Was this exactly what 305 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: you kind of envisioned in your head every time you 306 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: have to go in that training room and do all 307 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: the extra work to get back. Was it for this? 308 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I would? I would say yes, Um, you know you 309 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: always share. You know what I'm saying. God doesn't make mistakes, 310 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: And for me, I think that's that's very true. I 311 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, we were we were riding high 312 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: and coach always said, adversity is going to hit you, 313 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: just don't know where. And obviously I for sure didn't 314 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: think it was gonna hit me the way it did. 315 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: But I understand you need to attack it one or 316 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: two ways. Lie down and let it take over you, 317 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: or you can go out there and attack it and 318 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: meet it face to face. And I think that's what 319 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: we all did throughout this process, regardless of you know, 320 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: if I was out or somebody else was out, or 321 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: we were not winning as many games that we started 322 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: off seven and two, and just keep battling and keep fighting. 323 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: And I think, Um, like I said, God doesn't make 324 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: mistakes and everything happens for a reason. You know, it's 325 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: a it's a blessing that we're in this position now 326 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: to be able to you know, showcase that and evangelize, 327 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, those blessings that he gives us. Dory, thank 328 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: you appreciated. Hey, Giant fans, take your fandom to the 329 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: next level with a season taking memberships. They connected to 330 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: the club all year round, not just on game days. 331 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Memberships are now available for the three season. To learn 332 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: more about all the exclusive member benefits, visit giants dot 333 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: com slash tickets. Limited inventory is available. Great conversation with 334 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: the Dorry Jackson. We thank him for joining us. Now 335 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: let's turn our attention to this week's opponent. Zack Berman 336 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: covers the Philadelphia Eagles for the Athletic. Paul de Tino 337 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: on Lance Meadow spoke to him. The Giants and Eagles 338 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: meet for the third time this season and third time 339 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: in just eight weeks, when they collide in the Divisional 340 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: round on Saturday at Lincoln Financial Field. Again more into Philly. 341 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: We're now joined by Zack Berman, who covers the Eagles 342 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: for the Athletic Zach he got, Lance Meadow and Paul 343 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: de Tino here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate the 344 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: time today, Hope pall as well. How's everything on your end? 345 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: It really is well good to talk to you guys 346 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: and bring him back ten years when I was covering 347 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the Giants. So looking forward to this game this weekend. Absolutely, Well, 348 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure of having you on the program. And Zach, 349 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with the biggest storyline I think from Philadelphia's standpoint, 350 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and that is the health and well being of Jalen Hurts. 351 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: He's not on the injury reports, so clearly that seems 352 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: to be encouraging. But when we saw him in Week eighteen, 353 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: he didn't seem to be healthy and did not look 354 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: to run the football. How much do you think with 355 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: him now back in the mix coming off the bye, 356 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: that the Eagles will return to the way they utilize 357 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts through the majority of the season. Well, Jill 358 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: two weeks healthier, right, So I I think that will 359 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: factor into it that when he played against the Giants 360 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: in Week eight teen, he was pushing to return. They've 361 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: now had the bye week, he's had a week of practice. Uh. 362 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I imagine given that he had his brand shoulder um 363 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: that there's there's still you know, pain that he might 364 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: be dealing with. But I I think you're going to 365 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: see Gale and Hurts. You know, I think the the 366 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: reason why he came back against the Giants was to 367 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: try to get that win so they can earn the 368 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: by and UH by doing so, now they're in the playoffs, 369 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: and I I imagine that this is going to be 370 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the way they played him when he was an m 371 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: VP candidate, you know, through the first sixteen weeks of 372 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the year. You know, Zack, this is a very unique circumstance. 373 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: The Eagles and Giants will be playing for the third 374 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: time within seven games, and I know these coaches and 375 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: these players are saying, well, we know each other, kind 376 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: of they don't. I mean, consider the fact that three 377 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: huge parts of the Giants defense didn't play in those 378 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: two games, with uh, you know, McKinney and and Leonard 379 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Williams obviously in the door Jackson Philadelphia. We really don't 380 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: know about Hurts, shoulder, Lane Johnson's playing with a torn 381 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: lower abdominal Gardner Johnson didn't play in both of those games. 382 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I think he played in one of them. I'm not 383 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: so sure that anybody can truly take anything from those 384 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: first two games. How do you feel? Yeah, that's a 385 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: good point. Personnel wise, both teams are are going to 386 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: be different. You mentioned the Giant side. That's abundantly clear 387 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: looking at that those two games, which Eagles. You mentioned 388 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: some of the injuries there. Dallas Goddard did not play 389 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: in that first games. He's one of their key players 390 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: on offense. Uh, So, I I recognize that, but I 391 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: I do think there's familiarity in terms of the schemes 392 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: right now in week A team game, both teams seem 393 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: to be relatively vanella, right, um, given uh what was 394 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: going on that week. But I think Week fourteen can 395 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: be viewed from a scheme perspective, But scheme only matters 396 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: so much. It's it's it's personnel that that that probably 397 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: matters even more. And you are accurate that the personnel 398 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: differences on both sides, but particularly the Giant side, makes 399 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: this a typical for a matchup for the third time 400 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: in such a concentrated period. Zach. You mentioned that it 401 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: was pretty vanilla for the Eagles in Week eighteen, and 402 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair assessment. The big talk 403 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: from the Giant side is well, wait a minute, If 404 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the Giants reserves played so competitively, especially in that fourth quarter, 405 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: and now they're getting all those reinforcements back that Paul mentioned, well, 406 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't the Eagles be concerned? Because that speaks volumes of 407 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: the Giants depth. I'm just curious, what do you think 408 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's takeaway is in terms of the effort and hustle 409 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: that the Giants reserve showed that perhaps could send the 410 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: message and what they're going to expect to see come 411 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: this divisional round matchup. Oh, I think there's there's no 412 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: question there's respect for the Giants from the Eagles side, 413 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: and and frankly, anyone in the NFL this year, who's 414 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: who's watched Giants film? Uh? Would who would come away believing? 415 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: This is a team that plays hard, This is a 416 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: team that's well coached, right. I mean, the reason why 417 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: they're in the divisional round of the playoffs when expectations 418 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: when you look at you know, the Vegas win loss 419 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: over under before the season, at that they far see 420 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: to those expectations. It's it's because they've they've probably played 421 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: beyond their talent level because of the way, you know, 422 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: how hard they play how well they're coached. Uh So, 423 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I I think the Eagles, uh Keny can look at 424 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that week a team game as an example of that. UM. Now, 425 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: as as far as the Eagles in that week a 426 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: team game, the the thing I can't emphasize enough is 427 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: this is a different offense when there's a threat of 428 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts running the ball. I mean not just Jalen 429 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: Hurts running the ball, but a threat of Jalen Hurts 430 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: running the ball. And he did not run the ball 431 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: as as as much or as often as he typically 432 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: does in that week in that week A King game. 433 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: And I guess that goes back to the first question. 434 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: But I think that UM, when I say the the 435 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: the scheme with Vanilla, it's it's because they weren't playing 436 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: the way they typically have through most of the season. Zack, 437 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: let me go back to the psychological thing for just 438 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: a second. We've been around the Giants every day. They're 439 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: incredibly confident, they're feeling that they're playing their best ball. 440 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: They're loose, they're enjoying the living heck out of this 441 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: whole potential deep playoff run. What is the cycle logical 442 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: feeling right now around the Eagles. I have to feel 443 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: that after their incredible start and the fact that they 444 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: are at the top seed, if they lose this game, 445 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: I have to feel it's an incredible disaster. UH. In 446 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: terms of their season, I'm thinking they must be feeling 447 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. Well, I I would imagine fans 448 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: are are viewing it that way. I I don't know 449 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: if the team's viewing it in that context. I I 450 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: think they've they've been pretty well conditioned this year two UM, 451 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: really not in large any particular game. And and and 452 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: part of that, frankly has been because they got off 453 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: that hots that hot start, like you mentioned. And then 454 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: it's it's not a situation like you know, the Patriots 455 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: when they were undefeated going into the Super Bowl against 456 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the Giants. You know, the Egle stumbled late in the season. UM, 457 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: they kind of got back on track. And I think 458 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: the last two weeks it hasn't been the type of 459 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: pressure cooker that you might normally see for a top seed, 460 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: given how that last month when a lot of it's 461 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: been all right, get your quarterback healthy, get your right 462 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: tackle healthy, get back to some of the fundamentals that 463 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: you do during training camp. UH. During O t A 464 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: s and try to be a fresh discipline team come 465 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: playoff time. But to your point, I think from the 466 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: fan perspective, absolutely that that there's expectations for this team. 467 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the less time Eagles were the number one seed, 468 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl, right, uh so? And and 469 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: that was only five seasons ago. Uh so. I I 470 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: think that there's certainly expectations, given that they have home 471 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: field advantage, given that they're playing against a familiar opponent, 472 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: given that you know that so so. Yeah, from the 473 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: fans perspective, I wouldn't that's the case. I don't get 474 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that sense from the team itself. We're talking with Zach Berman, 475 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: who covers the Eagles for the Athletic. Zack, I'm glad 476 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: you referenced two thousand seventeen because the other thing that 477 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: stands out to me that maybe somewhat of a similarity. 478 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: And clearly there's some personnel changes, but that was the year. Obviously, 479 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz got hurt late, Nick Foles took over. The 480 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: last few regular season games were not pretty with Nick Foles, 481 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: even the first playoff game with the Falcons. Then all 482 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: of a sudden things picked up. And the reason I 483 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: bring that up is you were referencing their approach down 484 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: the stretch. Well, two things jump out to me. Turnover skyrocketed. 485 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: They have nine in the last four and just three takeaway, 486 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: so their minus six compared to plus fourteen in their 487 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: first thirteen games. And the run game numbers don't seem 488 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: to be as explosive, and I'm sure clearly that's a 489 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: product of Jaleen Hurts not playing a few games how much. 490 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: In particular, though those two categories do they need to 491 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: get back on track if they want to transfer the 492 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: success they had in the regular season over to the postseason. Okay, Senerbliz, 493 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean that is huge. When they were on that 494 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: hot star undefeated through the first you know, two plus 495 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: months of the season, the turnover differential had so much 496 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: to do with it. And that's obviously both sides of 497 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: the ball, but in particular, the offense wasn't given the 498 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: ball away. And I think some of the you know, 499 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: the the high volume of of of turnovers in recent weeks, 500 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: some of that's keewed frankly by two games that that 501 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: governer Minshew started, and obviously that factors into the running game, 502 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: but even even before that, you know, the Bears game 503 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: when Jalen Hurts got hurt. Uh, there were some uncharacteristic turnovers. 504 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, they need to do a better job taking 505 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: care of the ball, and they need to get that 506 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: run game back on track. As far as the run game, 507 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: so much of that has to do with with Jalen Hurts. 508 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: And I think that as long as Hurts is running 509 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: the ball, I'd be confident that the Eagles can run 510 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: the ball because there are there's there's honestly fifteen plus 511 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: weeks of of demonstrative performance in that area. It's funny 512 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: because we're talking about how important Hurts is to the 513 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: Philly running game, and obviously they have Sanders as well. 514 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: But the Giants are in a similar boats act because 515 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: let's face it, when you looked at what happened in 516 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: Minnesota last week, Yeah, sick one Barkley went in for 517 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, But Daniel Jones and his legs, 518 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: we're even a bigger factor in that game in knocking 519 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: out the Vikings. So I think maybe Philly has got 520 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: to be thinking the same thing about the Giants running 521 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: gettent oh for sure, And and and I I know 522 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been with different coaching staffs and whatnot. 523 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: But when you just look at Daniel Jones's history against 524 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles, He's He's been a really effective runner. I 525 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: mean I think of of games both in Philly and 526 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: up in North Jersey when when Daniel Jones has had 527 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: big Russian performances against Eagle. So yeah, I think both 528 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: the players and the coaching staff very much aware of 529 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: what Jones can do with his leg zack. Speaking of 530 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles defensive approach, we were talking about the Giants 531 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: personnel that wasn't available for the first two regular season games. 532 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I want to jump to the Eagles defensive personnel that 533 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: wasn't available, specifically in the Week eight team matchup. Josh 534 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: Sweat dealing with the neck issue, looks like he's going 535 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: to return. And then at the slot corner position of 536 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: Ante Maddox is still banged up. So it looks like C. J. 537 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, who recently came off of I R has 538 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: been now assuming the slat position his versatility, specifically Gardner Johnson, 539 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: what does that do for Jonathan Gannon's defensive unit. And 540 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: then Josh Sweat. We know they have four players who 541 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: have double digit sacks. But the return of Sweat, how 542 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: much more of a rotation and a benefit does that 543 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: give them with him now being back on the field. Yeah, 544 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: so I was addressed Josh Sweat first, that would be huge. Uh. 545 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: And he's he's expected to play. And you mentioned the 546 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: stat there four players with double digit zacks. They had 547 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: a league high seventies fact this season. And it's it's 548 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: not just one guy. Hassan Reddicks the leader there in zacks. 549 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: But when you look at at what Sweat did this 550 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: year with eleven sacks in essentially fifteen games. Uh, Brandon 551 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Graham as a rotational he He's had a career year 552 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: as a rotational edge rusher and now he can move 553 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: back to kind of that rotational role. They have pressure 554 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: from the interior with Javon Hargrave, with Fletcher Cox so uh. 555 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: And and that doesn't even get into and Balmikinso and 556 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Milton and Williams and Jordan Davis and Lynvaal Joseph So. Uh. 557 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: The point being there that what Sweat gives you is 558 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: is one of the top the edge rushers in the 559 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: NFL back in a rotation that is deep with pass 560 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: rushers as far as Gardner Johnson that was new frankly 561 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: in that weekend team game against the Giants that that 562 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: was the first time that they had to use Gardner 563 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: Johnson in the fly. And uh so there's there's not 564 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: really a large sample side in Philadelphia to say how 565 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: he performs there, but there, but but there are three 566 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: years in New Orleans, right, that was his primary position 567 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: with the Saints before the Eagles made the trade. Uh, 568 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm right. Before the season started he was a slot 569 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: defender for the Saints and and the Eagles moved into safety, 570 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: which was his college position. But that versatility is going 571 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: to be important because, uh, it's it's just it's it's 572 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: it's such a critical position in this Eagles defense. Zack, 573 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: you've been around both of these teams now over the 574 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: last decade of so of your career. Could you tell 575 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: me why Boston Scott decides to destroy the Giants and 576 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't do a whole lot against the rest of the league. Yeah, 577 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a great question, and I know 578 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's become like a fun storyline in both 579 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: markets this year. Honestly, earlier, most of those touchdowns had 580 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: had had to do with opportunities, right that it just 581 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: so happened they were playing games against the Giants when 582 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: their back field was banged up and and he was 583 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: moving up the depth chart. Then there have been other 584 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: situations like you know, the the previous Eagles game when 585 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: they just decided to give him the ball on the 586 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: goal line, and they don't typically do it, but Boston 587 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: scotts a solid player who has has been uh back up, 588 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: a rotational player for the Eagles, and it it's just 589 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: so happened that whether it was Miles Sanders, whether it 590 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: was you know, Jordan Howard, different players that they've had here, 591 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: Josh Adams during Boston Scott's time. When they play against 592 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: the Giants, it seems that, uh, those players are banged 593 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: up and Boston Scott gets more opportunities. And then he 594 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: also chipped in on special teams when the Eagles played 595 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: the Giants the first time in Week fourteen. So it 596 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it seems Zack, where they line him up, 597 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: he always seems to have success. But in all seriousness, 598 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned it's been a big storyline this week. I 599 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: was listening to the Eagles press conferences and clearly Shane 600 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Steikin was complimentary of Boston Scott went Wink Martindale, the 601 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: Giants defensive coordinator, was asked about Boston Scott, and in fairness, 602 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: he had it been here other than this season, you know, 603 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: downplayed his impact. How much of a weapon? Though? Do 604 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: you think the Eagles of you, Boston Scott, that they 605 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: could continue to find ways to attack the Giants with him, 606 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: whether it be on offense or maybe even on special 607 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: teams again? Yeah, so, And I don't mean this to 608 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: to disrespect Boston Scott, because you know what what he's 609 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: done through his career, in particular against the Giants speak 610 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: for itself. But if I'm Wink Martindale, where I'm um, 611 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: you know I'm in that Giants meeting room, Boston Scott 612 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty far down the list of sense of weapons that 613 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: I'd be worried about for the Eagles. R I mean 614 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: you have, Yeah, there's a there's a J. Brown, DeVante Smith, 615 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddter, uh Miles standers right. So it's it's there's 616 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: odds phenomenon that that Boston Scotts production. It's it's coming 617 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: from the Giants. But I would be surprised, and I 618 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: could be wrong here. I would be surprised if if 619 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: he's a major part of the offensive game plan because 620 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: that that really hasn't been how they've used it. He's 621 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: been a deep reserved change of pace type of players 622 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: for them. All right, let me turn this around for you, Zach, 623 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: because I think from a Giants fans perspective, Boston Scott 624 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: is the under the radar X factor who could spoil 625 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: their day. Let me let me go the other way. 626 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: You tell me who is the under radar X factor 627 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: for the Giants that could spoil the Eagles day. That's 628 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: a good question. Um, And I I don't think Dexter 629 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Lawrence isn't under the hit our players, one of the 630 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: players in the in the NFL. Yeah, he comes up 631 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: the entire radar. Yeah, But I think when you look 632 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: at Giants, you know, when you when you look at 633 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: at at how they can you know, really affect the Eagles. 634 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I think that interior penetration and and and what he 635 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: presents there, Uh that that's huge. But but but other 636 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: than that, um, I mean, Hodgkins has has has come 637 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: on here, but I I just really think that, um, 638 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: it comes down to Daniel Jones and being efficient with 639 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: the ball like he was against Minnesota and and moving 640 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: it with his legs and a quarterbacks never under the radar. 641 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: But with the Eagles in the games that they've lost, 642 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: it's been because the other team has been able to 643 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: maintain possession. He's Eagles offense off the field. I mean 644 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: that was a recipe other than the Cowboys game, which 645 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: was the shootout. That was a recipe when the sat 646 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: Speed Eagles. That was a recipe when Washington be Eagles. 647 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: And the way to do that is by by by 648 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: moving the chaine on on third down and Daniel Jones's 649 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: legs if he can smart passes there. Uh That's that's 650 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: kind of the X factor here, because when the Eagles 651 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: are going offensively, uh, they can room, they're couring output 652 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: of the season, and then with the type of pass 653 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: rush as they can get after the quarterback, they can 654 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: force you to be one dimensional. But if if, if 655 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: the Giants control the clock, then that obviously affects the 656 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: way Eagles play. So uh so I I think Daniel 657 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: jones Is efficiency would probably be a big storyline to 658 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: watch there. Zack, speaking of playing the trenches, which is 659 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: essentially what you were getting at, I want to circle 660 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: back because Lane Johnson was brought up earlier, and he's 661 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: it's the last two regular season games that whenever a 662 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: player comes back after missing some time and even following 663 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: the bye, I think the million dollar question is is 664 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: their rust? Is their concerned? We were talking about that 665 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: when a Dory Jackson returned to the Giants playoff game 666 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: last week. What's the outlook for Lane? I mean, clearly, 667 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: he's a veteran, He's been there, he's done that. But 668 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: how do you anticipate he'll look given the fact that 669 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't played the last few weeks. Well, all I 670 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: know is Lane Johnson is I've I've I've covered him 671 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: for a decade now, you know, since he was drafted 672 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: into his ALFA thirteen and he's been Beagles are far 673 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: better team when he's on the field and when he's 674 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: offen I mean, and he's planning through injury seemingly every year, 675 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: and when he's not on the field, they miss him considerably. 676 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: And when he's on the field, even when he's he's not, 677 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: he's just he's that good of a player. So I 678 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: can't speak to how Lane is going to be feeling. 679 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: But I can't say that I have ten years of 680 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: coverage of the team to tell you that when Lane 681 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Johnson is on the field, they are a better team 682 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: than when he's off the field. It certainly never hurts 683 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: to get a four time pro bowler back in the 684 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: mix for a crucial playoff game. Is the Eagles and 685 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: the Giants will renew their rivalry for the third time 686 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: Saturday at Lincoln Financial Field in the Divisional round. He 687 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: is Zack Berman, who covers the team for the Athletic. 688 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Zach always good catching up greatly, appreciate the time of 689 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: the inside, and enjoy the game on Saturday. Thanks Zach, 690 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. See you then take care. The Giants 691 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: official connected TV streaming app, Giants TV brings original video 692 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: content and game highlights on demand and director big Blue fans. 693 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: Giants TV is free on Apple TV, Roku, and Amazon 694 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Fire TV and the Giants Mobile app. We think Zack 695 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: Berman does a great job you to cover the Giants 696 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: back in the day. Now he's covering the Eagles for 697 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: the Athletic. All right, let's do the final part of 698 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: our three part interview, pregame, preview, whatever you wanna call 699 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: it podcast right here on the Bience Huddle. And that's 700 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Bob Poppa's conversation with the head coach of the n 701 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: y G Brian Dable. The Giants take on the Philadelphia 702 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: Eagles and the divisional playoff round. As always, we're joined 703 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: by the head coach of the New York Giants, Brian Dable, 704 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: and UH coach, Obviously, your team has embraced this challenge 705 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: very enthusiastically. Uh, just talk a little bit about the 706 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: way this week has gone as far as the preparation 707 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: and how your team has gone about their work. Yeah, 708 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: they've done a good job. We turned the page pretty 709 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: quick on Minnesota and got onto Philly. Team. We've played 710 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: here the last you know, two times, and now we're 711 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: playing the third time. So it's been a normal week 712 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: for us in terms of how we've installed and a 713 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: short week, but we've we went through some short weeks, 714 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: so it's been a normal short week. Force coach. Obviously, 715 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: the last time you played them, Um, jail It Hurts 716 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: was just coming back from injury. You played him right 717 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Just talk about the element of 718 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: danger that he brings to the game and what are 719 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: some of the keys to trying to at least control him. Yeah, 720 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: I know, he's an elite quarterback in this league. He 721 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: can hurt you with his arm and then you know, 722 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: if there's nothing there, he can take off and run. 723 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: They use him on design runs. So he's a complete 724 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: quarterback that has full control of their offense. UM the 725 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: reason why he's mentioned in the m VP conversation, and 726 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: he'll be certainly a challenge to defend. Coach. In the 727 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: last meeting, you did a pretty good job as a 728 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: team controlling their run game. In the first meeting, obviously 729 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: Sanders had a big game. Uh, just talk a little 730 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: bit about the run fits and how important it is 731 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: for everybody to make sure that they just kind of 732 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: do their job and not try to make the extraordinary play. Yeah, 733 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: one of the better run teams, and you know they 734 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: can hand it to their running backs, and obviously Jalen 735 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: presents challenges. So when you have, you know, a quarterback 736 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: and some really good running backs, there's a variety of 737 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: run schemes that that they run, and you know their 738 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: offensive line, it starts with them. You know, a bunch 739 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: of Pro bowlers, all pros on that. So look, we're 740 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to do a good job of playing team defense. 741 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: UM eleven guys doing their job rallying to the football 742 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: and making tackles, and you know they're gonna hit some Um. 743 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: They're just a dynamic team in that regard, and we're 744 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to do a good job of playing the 745 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: next play. Coach of obviously playing in Minnesota twice within 746 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: the last month, UM, now you're gonna be going into 747 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: Philadelphia on a Saturday night. It's hostile. UM. I would 748 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: think that your team has some calluses at this point, 749 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: having been there, done that experience, that where that situation 750 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: will not phase them. Yeah, looks the team we're playing 751 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: as the Philadelphia Eagles. UM, and that's where our focus 752 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: has to be, is is playing good against their players. 753 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: But you know, whether it was at Minnesota, whether it 754 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: was at Philly the week before, UM, a lot of 755 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: other places. We've been Dallas on Thanksgiving. You know, you 756 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: go into tough places to play, there's a loud crowd. 757 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, you have to really focus on what you 758 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: can control, which is getting to play quickly to the 759 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: players and then the players communicating with one another so 760 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: that there's no issues in that regard. They had seventy 761 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: sacks during the course of the season. UM. They're the 762 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: only team that has four players with double digits acts. 763 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: Is this one of those situations where they can just 764 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: win a lot of times? Meant, you know, man to man, 765 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: they don't do as a lot a lot of exotic 766 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: things to get pressure. Well, it always starts with players. 767 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: And you know those players that you're referring to our 768 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: unbelievable players. Um, they have a unique ability to to 769 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: get to the passer really inside with the inside players 770 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: and then outside with their outside guys. And they have 771 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Um, you know, it's like a 772 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: who's whose list, it's they're all pros and their Pro 773 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: Bowl players that present you know, a lot of different 774 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: challenges for really all our offensive lineman. So we're gonna 775 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: have to have a good protection plan and we're gonna 776 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: have to play a game um that you know tries 777 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: to keep them at bay a little bit, which is 778 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, no one's been able to do coach final 779 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: question here. Um, you know you're going down there, you're 780 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: playing him. Your team is playing with a lot of confidence. 781 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: You guys are executing on a high level. Um. From 782 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, you guys were able to stabilize the game, 783 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: right away last week after Minnesota went down a scored 784 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, how important is it to make 785 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: sure that you guys are efficient early in the game 786 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: to not let that sort of green waves sweep over 787 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, we're gonna have to be a resilient group. Um, 788 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna make their plays they have all year, and 789 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have to play complimentary football. All 790 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: three phases are gonna have to work together to to 791 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: try to do the best job we can do against 792 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: this team. Coach of It's been a lot of fun 793 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: and as I like to say at the end of 794 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: all these interviews, let's do it again next week. All right, thanks, 795 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: don't forget to go. Subscribe to Draft Season, the Giants 796 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: Draft Podcast. We are rip roarn ready to go here. 797 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: The draft preparation is starting for everyone here for the 798 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: Giants front office and certainly for me. And Draft Season 799 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: is where you tune in for all the great information. 800 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Tony Pauline and I talk draft. This week, we talked 801 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: to Eric Galco, who runs the show for the Shrine 802 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: Bowl and that's coming your way in about a week 803 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: and a half down there in Las Vegas. And then 804 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: the week following we'll have Jimagi runs the Senior Bowl 805 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: as we kind of give you the low down and 806 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: all big time prospects coming out in the draft as 807 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: a Giant try to continue to build and improve their 808 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: team this off season. 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