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Speaker 1: It's official. Pitchers and catchers are arriving back in camp,

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Speaker 1: and baseball season is here. Tonight I'll be joined by

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Speaker 1: Justin Shackle of the YES Network, also the play by

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Speaker 1: play voice for the Yankees on Wfan for much of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season. We'll discuss the reasons why

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Speaker 1: Yankees fans should feel optimistic headed into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five season, and also some question marks that are facing

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Speaker 1: the team as they try and defend their American League championship.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to baseball season. This is Pinstripe Territory. Wanted to pook,

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Speaker 1: that's all all right. Welcome back everybody, Welcome back, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Justin Shackle making his Pinstripe Territory debut. How

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Speaker 1: great was it to see pitchers and catchers rolling into Canaday?

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Speaker 2: Justin Not as good as hearing that tony soprano drop

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Speaker 2: in the intro.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for having me, Yes, pitchers and catchers today

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Speaker 2: that we all wait for. And even though it's still

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Speaker 2: extremely cold outside here in the Northeast, something warm and

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Speaker 2: fuzzy just throughout that phrase pictures and catchers and it's

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Speaker 2: here for the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: I have this whiteboard on my wall where I write

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Speaker 1: out the physical calendars or whatever. And every year I

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Speaker 1: write P and C on the day that they report.

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Speaker 1: And for the first few years of our relationship, my

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Speaker 1: wife used to ask, what is P and C? Right

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Speaker 1: in Valentine's Day? Weekend? You got some other Is that

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Speaker 1: Pictures and catchers And she's finally gotten the hang of it,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's good to hear. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it always feels real to me when we start seeing

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Speaker 1: those those you know, bullpen videos. Is somebody throwing at

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Speaker 1: you get the pops, all that good stuff. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for it. But the first thing I got to ask

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Speaker 1: what was it like filming it for John Sterling. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've been listening to him for years, you know,

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Speaker 1: what was it like to sit in chair? Did he

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Speaker 1: have any advice for you? That type of thing?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, sitting in the chair for the first time

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Speaker 2: and I mean I didn't really have nerves going into

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Speaker 2: But it was only when I was asked to fill

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Speaker 3: Where.

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Speaker 2: You know, I work in the radio booth, but my

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Speaker 2: I'm going to the main chair, and I had a

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Speaker 2: surreal moment. You know, it's absolutely the best season in

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Speaker 3: I grew up a massive Yankee fan. I watched games

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Speaker 2: So if she was still alive and she saw what

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Speaker 2: I was doing now, I mean, I know, you have

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Speaker 2: me too, because they had a lot of surreal experiences.

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Speaker 3: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: That is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what I wanted to do either. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know they got Dave Sam's and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: But what was it like sitting next to Susan Walden.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like you're sitting next to your cool aunt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was the best way I could describe it, Like,

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Speaker 3: She's seen some things, and she's seen everything in baseball.

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Speaker 2: And she's obviously been part of the Yankee universe for

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Speaker 2: float little nuggets of advice, maybe not in and like

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Speaker 2: All the booths have monitors and they're literally right next

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Speaker 1: The one thing I always wondered about the people who

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Speaker 1: How do you guys come up with those names so quickly?

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Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I guess you do have

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Speaker 1: Second for the podcast crowd. He's retrieving something.

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Speaker 3: So this is obviously for the visual medium. It's my

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Speaker 2: And what you'll have is when we turn to game

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Speaker 3: Nice, and that's kind of just sitting right in front

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Speaker 2: Look, you you come to you know, memorize the names.

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Speaker 1: then better defense. I think we're gonna be much stronger

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Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of different, like sub set

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Speaker 2: I think Plan B has left them a more complete

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the third basement for opening Day

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Speaker 2: Everybody cried about the lack of swing and miss last year.

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Speaker 2: natural positions. Yes, I don't think that can be underscored enough.

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Speaker 2: I think too many teams around the league for the

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Speaker 2: plug and play concept. Because you're a pro baseball player,

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Speaker 2: the Yankees, look, not everybody as Cody Bellinger, not everybody

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Speaker 2: as athletic as him. They've returned most of these players

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to lead to better results. I

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Speaker 2: Soda went to the Mets, and I think between those two,

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Speaker 1: Defensively, Yeah, I'm excited to see better baseball right. I

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Speaker 1: feel like last year there were a lot of games

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of sloppiness. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: you know, from a base running standpoint, I do think

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Speaker 1: loved the way that Volpi swung the bat the first

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean he might not get he might not hit

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Speaker 1: can he rebound from that playoff performance? You know, Louise Heal,

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Speaker 2: Pitching ahole my breath with every single throw that they

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Speaker 2: an eight year deal for Max Freed. I think, hey,

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Speaker 2: I might be pessimistic about this team. It's everything that

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Speaker 2: we've got Bellinger and we've got gold Schmidt, and that's

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Speaker 2: The key for me are those three young players, Volpi,

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Speaker 2: If Jason Dimingez kind of hit the reset button from

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating theater. It's the fun part of sport.

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Speaker 2: I guess if you're not a fan of the subject

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like watching March Madness without a bracket.

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Speaker 3: You know, it'll be with me until the day I die.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it'll wash it away a world title,

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Speaker 2: see what an elite athlete is able to do in

435
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Speaker 2: his biggest moment of adversity, or on the heels of

436
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Speaker 2: his biggest moment of adversity. That's why we're gonna tune in.

437
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: That's gonna be one of the main storylines. People were

438
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: talking to me about this and wondering what it would

439
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: be like when he goes on the road and if

440
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: there'll be signs, and I'm like, well, it's the making

441
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: it sound like, you know, he was a steroid user

442
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty five years ago. I don't think it's

443
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: gonna be like I don't think he's gonna heckle that poorly.

444
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're in this Yankee stratosphere here, you're

445
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: comparing Judge right now to the legacy of Don Mattingly.

446
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: Great legacy has his number retired, is a Yankee icon.

447
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: But the common denominator with those two players is that

448
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: they have zero world championships at the moment, and unfortunately,

449
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: as good of a player and as good of a

450
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: human as you could be, that is the measuring stick

451
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 2: in New York right, So definitely still more time to go,

452
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Speaker 2: but especially on the heels of that October man, it's

453
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Speaker 2: going to be fascinating theater to see what this is

454
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Speaker 2: with Aaron Judge.

455
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope it works out. It'd be a lot

456
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Speaker 1: more fun if he has a revenge tour. Let's talk

457
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Speaker 1: about the leadoff man, because we've got a few different

458
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Speaker 1: options that have been thrown around out there. I personally

459
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Speaker 1: am leading towards Jason Dimingez, but Anthony Volpik if he

460
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Speaker 1: can recapture that guy he was to the first sixty

461
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Speaker 1: three games. I mean honestly impressive numbers two ninety average

462
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: over those games, eight h three ops Domingez, three seventy

463
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Speaker 1: three career minor league on base percentage. He's super fast,

464
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Speaker 1: yet to be dealing a base at the major league level.

465
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: And then there's Jazz Chism obviously a ton of speed,

466
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Speaker 1: but not the on base numbers that you would want

467
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Speaker 1: necessarily out of a leadoff guy, although they are higher

468
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Speaker 1: than Volpies on base numbers. So if you were kind

469
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Speaker 1: of writing in the opening day lineup card right now

470
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Speaker 1: without seeing you know what happens in spring training, who

471
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Speaker 1: would be your pick.

472
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Speaker 3: Man?

473
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Speaker 2: It's a really tough question because I don't like any

474
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Speaker 2: of the options right now. I'm gonna be honest, and

475
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that those three players aren't good hitters.

476
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Speaker 2: I just don't think at this moment their ideal leadoff fits.

477
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Speaker 3: But you're gonna have to pick someone. Someone's gonna have

478
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Speaker 3: to hit first.

479
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Speaker 2: And as big of a proponent I am as to

480
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Speaker 2: earning it, Jason Dominguez might be the best option. I

481
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: think the Yankees they just got really quick. They jumped

482
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Speaker 2: the shark whatever you want to call it, with, you know,

483
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: the slight hint of success. Offensively from Anthony Volpi in

484
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: the past, it was like, all right, he's ready, let's go,

485
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Let's put him in the lead off spot. And again

486
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Speaker 2: he's just he's proved himself to be a streaky hitter

487
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Speaker 2: at this point. I don't think he can disagree with that.

488
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: And again, it's about limiting the peaks and valleys and

489
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Speaker 2: the streakiness of that.

490
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Speaker 3: For a leadoff hitter.

491
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's sustainable until you kind of

492
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Speaker 2: map it down and you're able to iron out whatever

493
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: types of wrinkles you're carrying right now.

494
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Speaker 3: As a young big league hitter.

495
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Speaker 2: As long as you're able to figure it out, then

496
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: we can talk about the leadoff spot for Jazz. I

497
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: just the way the whole lineup is structured at the moment,

498
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Speaker 2: I don't see him as a good fit, like he

499
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Speaker 2: needs to kind of be in the middle of the

500
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Speaker 2: order because he brings he brings power, he brings speed.

501
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: I'm really aching to see what he's able to do,

502
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: just again being back in his natural position and having

503
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Speaker 2: a full season and.

504
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: Really a full offseason.

505
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Speaker 2: I know he's been in and out of Tampa at

506
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: the Yankees Complex working out there, so just just being

507
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: a comfort zone. I'm really curious to see what that

508
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: does for him in his overall game. And I think

509
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: he's a field player, a comfort player, and I think

510
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Speaker 2: all that matters.

511
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if I necessarily want that at

512
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Speaker 3: the top of my lineup.

513
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Speaker 2: So it's Dimingez at the moment, but I don't think

514
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Speaker 2: there's a good option until some improves and forces their

515
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Speaker 2: way into the leaf spot.

516
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I go with Dimingez mainly because of his patients.

517
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Speaker 1: Like even though he didn't have great numbers, I felt

518
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Speaker 1: like he had pretty good at bats, right I mean,

519
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: and especially from the right side. You know, he didn't

520
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of hits, but I felt like he

521
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: was taking pitches. He looked comfortable, you know, so it

522
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Speaker 1: could come.

523
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Speaker 3: You know, I've ever looked over matched.

524
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Speaker 1: I agreed, agreed, Like Ben Weiss.

525
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: Came up last year and he, you know, he started

526
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: obviously cooled off, but from pitch to pitch, like Ben

527
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: Rice High Baseball, IQ guy like, he didn't look over match.

528
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: He didn't looks silly, he didn't look like he didn't belong.

529
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: A lot of coaches said that too. I feel the

530
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: same way about Domegos.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could tell. I mean, some guys

532
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: like ever Sin Perreira, you could tell when he came

533
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: up not ready right, he probably got you know, brought

534
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: up a little bit too soon, struggled with the breaking pitch.

535
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Clint Frazier, to me, was a guy who who I

536
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: just never felt like he was a major league player.

537
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: But certain guys like I watch Austin Wells and I

538
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: see a major league hitter. I see major league at bats,

539
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't always have great results. He hits

540
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: the ball hard, he takes pitches like, he works the

541
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: count Deminguz is one of those guys like he's obviously

542
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: got a plan up there, and that's something I want

543
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: out of a leadoff hitter. And the fact that he's

544
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: also got a little bit of pop is nice for

545
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: the leadoff spot because you know, he might run into

546
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: twenty home runs out of leadoff spot. And the three

547
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: seventies something on base percentage in the minor leagues is

548
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: pretty impressive for a kid who you know, is pretty young.

549
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: So I'd say three fifty in the major leagues, you know,

550
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: that's that I'd take that.

551
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: I just think he needs to get out there and

552
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: get as much run as possible, Like he needs to

553
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: be playing every single day. They can't start and stop

554
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: with him. If it's going poorly, you have to try

555
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: and ride it out for a while.

556
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. That kind of goes against.

557
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: A lot of what I've been preaching in the past,

558
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: especially if you look at last season and leftfield situation

559
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: specifically like Alex Ferdugo and his struggles, I think it

560
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: lasted a lot longer than it needed to.

561
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: Kind of the opposite here.

562
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: If Jason's trying to you know, if he's struggling to

563
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: get results, but the IQ's there. He doesn't, you know,

564
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: doesn't look overmatched like you got to keep riding him

565
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: out there.

566
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: You're talking about his youth. I read something today, Derek.

567
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: It popped out, you know, it really popped out at me.

568
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: Jason Domingez is younger at this moment then Travis Bizano,

569
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: the top overall pick from last year's draft.

570
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean that puts it into context of how and

571
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: perspective how young he still is.

572
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: So I know he's been around a while, he's been

573
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: a name that people are familiar with for a while.

574
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: They're really anxious to see him, you know, take off

575
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: as a young big leaguer, but you got to give

576
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: him some time.

577
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. What the hell,

578
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I'll put up my lineup. We'll just take a look

579
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: what we got. Real great. So I've got Dominguez, I

580
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: got Judge in the number two spot. I'm going with

581
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Bellinger number three, Stanton number four. I want, I want

582
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: give me one hundred and forty healthy games from from

583
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: John Carlos Stanton, and now let's see if we get

584
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: a little closer to that Juan Soto home run total.

585
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: You give him an extra thirty healthy games, it's gonna

586
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: hit ten more home runs. I mean it's thirty seven.

587
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Austin Wells. I think he could have a nice bounce

588
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: back year. I'm interested to see if Paul Goldschwitz more

589
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: the second half guy or more the first half guy.

590
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends that watched the Cardinals

591
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty closely, and they said he was working on like

592
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: a new swing mechanic last year in spring training and

593
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: it didn't come together until like July. So obviously that's

594
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: gonna hold you down. And then bottom three Chisholm Volpie

595
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: and I've got Piazza at the third base spot because

596
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: I like his defense, and with you know, guys like

597
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Max Fried and Carlos Rodan lefties who are gonna get

598
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, on the left side. I want

599
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: the best glove possible over there. But I agree with

600
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: you that there's room to be made to bring in

601
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: a third basement before the Endican, How do you like

602
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: my lineup?

603
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: Does this work?

604
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: I like it for what the Yankees currently have on

605
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: the roster. I would probably slip Chisholm in Wells. Okay,

606
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: it's the clean flip.

607
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: There could also flip the stanton In Goldschmidt, I could,

608
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: I could see that.

609
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would leave that as is cool at the moment. Again,

610
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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a big Ernic guy. Like if gold

611
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: Schmidt comes out and has a really hot April and

612
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: John Carlo isn't starting off real hot, Yeah, maybe make

613
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: a flip if you think it's necessary. But same thing

614
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: like for Austin Wells, like you want a bad higher.

615
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: Earn it man.

616
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah.

617
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: The big reason why I think, like I agree with

618
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: you for what is currently on the roster Oswald Parazi.

619
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Speaker 2: If you have to ask me what out of those

620
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Speaker 2: three players, who should be that starting third baseman, I'm

621
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: going with defense, right, and Paraz is the best option

622
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: there and it will help out the pitching the most.

623
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Speaker 2: But I do not think that the opening a third

624
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: baseman is currently on this roster we were talking about, right,

625
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot riding on three young hitters.

626
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: Are you really going to add a fourth to that lineup?

627
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: That's a great point. That is a great point. I

628
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe the Bragman or the Aeronato rumors. I'm

629
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: just not sure who's out there who who's available, So

630
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: it might be it might be one of those creative deals.

631
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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a you know, a minor

632
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: league third baseman somewhere that the Yankees think is ready,

633
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, you know, or if there's a you know,

634
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: somebody that maybe can come in and play second and

635
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: they move Jazz back to third. It's just it's gonna

636
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: be a creative decision when it comes down to it.

637
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I know we're running past time here, so I want

638
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: to get your final verdict here. You said before ninety

639
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: four wins, so let's put the over under at ninety

640
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: four and a half wins. You're taking the over or

641
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: the under if you had to put down a dollar.

642
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh, since we're actually putting some money on the line, Yeah,

643
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: I'll go over.

644
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: I will go over ninety four.

645
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't know about how much, but I will go

646
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: somewhere between ninety four and a half and one hundred victories.

647
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm look I think that they are a more complete

648
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: team at this moment. I'm actually focused more on whether

649
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: they're going to be tougher. I wonder why what that

650
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: residual effect of that World Series performance will be. Will

651
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: it affect them negatively? Will the experience harden them up

652
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Speaker 2: a bit more and serve them well. Remember like the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers lost back to back World Series before they got going,

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Speaker 2: And I know the roster wasn't exactly the same, but

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Speaker 2: the manager, the coaching staff, they were all the same.

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Speaker 3: Front office mostly the same. That matters too.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Royals lost in twenty fourteen before winning

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. I really am curious to see, not

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Speaker 2: just Aaron Judge, this entire organization. What did last October

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Speaker 2: specifically in the World Series. What did it do to them?

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Speaker 2: Did it make them harder, did it make them tougher

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Speaker 2: for the better, and if it did, look out because

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Speaker 2: this is a thin American league and then once you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember ninety five, the heartbreak of ninety five.

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Speaker 1: After being up two to zero in Seattle, he dropped

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Speaker 1: three straight and that spurned guys on like, you know,

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Speaker 1: David cohne and Paul O'Neill and Bernie Williams, and they

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Speaker 1: all said ninety five was a big catalyst to like

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Speaker 1: going into ninety six hungry, the tiny seven they lost

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Speaker 1: to the Indians, the then Indians. There was that big

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Speaker 1: home run by Sandy Alomar Junior off of RIVERA and

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Speaker 1: that was pretty much the last run he gave up

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Speaker 1: for five years in the playoffs something like that. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, there are things sometimes that transcend one season

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Speaker 1: and can build into the next. And I'm hoping that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the combination of you know, the tough loss,

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Speaker 1: the way they blew the lead and in the fifth inning,

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Speaker 1: and the subsequent hanging on the rim by the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: all winter is enough to kind of push these guys.

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Speaker 1: A large number of them are coming back to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's go out and get this. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who's in front of us. How do you think

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Speaker 1: Wan Soto's gonna do with the Mets this year? I'd

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Speaker 1: be surprised he puts up the same kind of numbers.

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Speaker 1: Not hitting in front of judge.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the key right there.

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Speaker 2: Look, Pete a Lotzo, good player, Francisco Lindor, good player.

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Speaker 2: They're not Aaron Judge, They're just not you. If you're

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Speaker 2: saying that they're close, you're lying to yourself. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're ever gonna see a season that

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Speaker 2: Wan Soto had last year again in his career. Is

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Speaker 2: he able to do it on a talent level, Like,

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Speaker 2: from a talent perspective, does he have it in him?

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Speaker 2: He's obviously gonna only get deeper into his prime. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he could do it. I find it hard to believe

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Speaker 2: that he will, and I am more interested in seeing

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Speaker 2: how he navigates rightfield at Sydneyfield.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun to watch either way. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be an interesting season of New York baseball. Justin Shackle

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Speaker 1: making his debut on Pinstripe Territory. Appreciate it, my guy,

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Speaker 1: and welcome here man, Thank you, Derek, and good luck

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Speaker 1: this season on Yes, we'll hopefully have you back to

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Speaker 1: celebrate the World Series. I'm gonna let Justin go and

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hear it for Justin Shackle. How about

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Speaker 1: that guy you know? I was I was honestly kind

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Speaker 1: of nervous talking to him. He's one of the more

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Speaker 1: high profile guests that we've had on the show. So

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Speaker 1: the first out of the gate there, I was kind

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Speaker 1: of stumbling over my words a little bit. He screwed

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Speaker 1: up a couple of you know, text pieces on the

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Speaker 1: on the screen, But overall, I think that was a success.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed having him. But let's get to your voicemails.

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Speaker 3: Hey there, what are your realistic expectations for Cody Bellinger?

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Speaker 1: In five realistic expectations for Cody Bellinger. That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Bellinger. He's a really interesting cat.

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Speaker 1: He has had some enormous seasons, MVP type seasons. Juiced

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Speaker 1: ball year, I think it was he at forty seven

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Speaker 1: home runs, So we're not gonna say he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: gonna do that again. But two years ago he had

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Speaker 1: over three hundred twenty six home runs. I believe, I

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Speaker 1: really think that he's gonna be closer to that guy

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Speaker 1: than the guy who was last year. Last year he

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Speaker 1: had some tough break injuries like it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: collisions and stuff like that. I really believe if he

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Speaker 1: can just stay healthy and stay on the field and

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Speaker 1: get into a rhythm, his swing plays perfectly for Yankee stadium.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna hit three hundred, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd take two eighty five, twenty five home runs, eighty

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Speaker 1: five RBIs, and solid defense in centerfield, and to me,

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Speaker 1: that's worth every penny.

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Speaker 6: What's going on, Derek, I just saw the Yankees move.

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Speaker 6: We got another lefty pitcher therek Tyler Mathick. I mean,

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Speaker 6: and you can't really be mad at a minor league deal.

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Speaker 6: And hope that Blake Smell and the Yankees pitching staff

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Speaker 6: can kind of tap into something there. Just looking through

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Speaker 6: some of his stuff back in twenty twenty one, seems

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Speaker 6: to be seem to have a great year obviously, sixty

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Speaker 6: nine games with a two point five seven ERA, almost

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Speaker 6: eighty strikeouts that year as well, So hopefully they can

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Speaker 6: get a little bit of that coming back in to

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Speaker 6: the bullpen somewhere, because we need help from the left

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Speaker 6: side in the bullpen. I think Tim Hill actually might

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Speaker 6: be our only think he's our only lefty. I don't

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Speaker 6: know what else they might have done in the minor leagues,

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Speaker 6: but I think it might be Matt Sick and Hill.

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Speaker 6: So either way, kind of hoping that we can tap

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Speaker 6: into something there and hope to get some nice upside.

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Speaker 6: Just wanted to hear what you thought of the signing,

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Speaker 6: and hopefully he makes spring training invite at least so

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Speaker 6: we get to see some of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's been invited to spring training, so we know that.

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Speaker 1: I believe we'll see him a lot in spring training.

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Speaker 1: Brian Cashman and whoever the pitching analytics people are, they

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Speaker 1: seem to be good at this type of thing. Remember

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Speaker 1: Ian Hamilton was a guy who hadn't pitched in a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Yankees brought him in. They seem to

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Speaker 1: recognize when someone's got, you know, enough stuff that they

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Speaker 1: can work with, and it's just about keeping them healthy. Now.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chris Sayle was a guy who just injuries

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Speaker 1: year after year after year, and it can take some

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Speaker 1: time to get healthy again. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Matzick was in kind of the same situation where he's

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Speaker 1: had just a bunch of injuries, but now he seems

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Speaker 1: like he's fully healthy. I think this could be one

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Speaker 1: of those under the radar Brian Cashman bullpen pieces that

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Speaker 1: in July we're talking about, Man, what would we be

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Speaker 1: doing without Tyler Matzik.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Geric, this is Richard Barnett the Snellbird from Asbra, Tidstein,

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Speaker 4: Jersey and Tampa. I'm the guy that has season tickets

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Speaker 4: for spring training at Don Gunner Field, good clean home

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Speaker 4: plate in first base, and I have fourteen season tickets there.

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Speaker 4: And I I had told you in the voicemail that

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Speaker 4: you know you, you know, you can come on my cab.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to have you. I love your shows.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I just sent you the update on what I

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Speaker 4: have last It's worst concern.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of calls like this, voicemails, people inviting me to

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Speaker 1: you know, games, inviting me to different stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to like take a second and play one

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Speaker 1: and address it. I watch every single game from my house.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I rarely travel, and I do the

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Speaker 1: podcast after every single game, so I rarely get to

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Speaker 1: go to games. But I appreciate all the invites. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm so grateful to you guys who

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Speaker 1: you know want to extend that invitation. Best way to

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Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button. We've been growing like crazy lately.

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Speaker 1: We've had a couple of our recent podcasts going viral,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That's my mission. Forget about fifty sixty

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Speaker 1: Let's charge forward. Let's make this one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: for our guy, Justin Shackle and I will catch you

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Speaker 1: guys on the flip side. We're gonna have a couple

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Speaker 1: coming on Friday. So I'm super excited. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: doing more podcasts here as we get into spring training.

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Speaker 1: Keep the voicemails coming. We're gonna do a lot more

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Speaker 1: voicemails over the next several weeks as spring training begins,

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Speaker 1: and then during the regular season. Obviously we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: voicemails the morning after every game, so postgame show voicemails

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Speaker 1: the morning after, and then a few times a month

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Speaker 1: interviews with interesting people like Justin Shackle. So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Frankie says, I'm gonna do a cover of Thriller.

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Speaker 1: It would scare you more than any ghost could ever

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Speaker 1: dare try. I appreciate it, though, Frankie. We'll catch you

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