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Speaker 1: Can we reform SNAP?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the people you really need them. It's meant for people.

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Speaker 3: And you know what it does is it really puts

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Speaker 2: People that need it have to get it. I'm all

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Speaker 4: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with

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Speaker 5: Good Friday morning, nice have you with us on the

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Speaker 6: We've got two big stories for you.

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Speaker 5: First up, one of the byproducts of the government shutdown

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Speaker 5: is a full on civil war within the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 6: I'll explain that in just a moment.

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Speaker 5: Also, in a shocking report, one hundred and eighty six

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Speaker 5: thousand dead people are receiving SNAP benefits in this country

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Speaker 6: Shut down finally over.

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Speaker 5: We're now seeing the carnage of what happened in this

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Speaker 5: there's a very good chance there could be another shutdown

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Speaker 5: a big takeaway of the government shutdown. And that is

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Speaker 5: the civil war that is taking place right now. AOC

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Speaker 5: and the Progressives are now turning on Chuck Schumer and

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Speaker 6: Now. Chuck Schumer has.

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Speaker 5: Been an establishment elitist liberal from New York for decades

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Speaker 6: You can't make it up now.

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Speaker 5: Despite the pressure, Schumer has refused to step down, insisting

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Speaker 5: Several currents are driving this internal revolt. Perceived lack of

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Speaker 5: The shutdown fight was a leverage movement, they say, and

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Speaker 6: Well as lee leadership role.

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Speaker 5: There may be some good that actually came out of

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Speaker 5: the government shut down. Supplemental nutrition assistance program known as

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Speaker 6: How do we know this?

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Speaker 5: what they've found. Rowins discussed the SNAP data the US

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Speaker 5: Again, one hundred and eighty seven thousand dead men and

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Speaker 5: that is what we're really going to start clamping down on.

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Speaker 1: To discuss Agriculture Secretary brook Rollins, Madame Secretary, great to

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Speaker 3: It's overwhelming, it's pretty remarkable. And let me level set

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Speaker 3: We're not one hundred percent sure, but we're rolling it

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Speaker 3: back now. On day one, back in February, for me,

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Speaker 3: we sent a letter to every governor saying, send us

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Speaker 3: your snap data. All of this money that the federal government,

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Speaker 2: And we said no more.

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Speaker 3: So twenty nine states complied and twenty other twenty plus

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Speaker 2: We're in a litigation right now.

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Speaker 3: But of the twenty nine that complied, what we have

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Speaker 3: found is staggering half a million people getting benefits two

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Speaker 2: They can work, and.

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Speaker 3: They choose not to work, of course, because they're getting

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Speaker 2: That we are working now, very.

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Speaker 3: Big announcements coming next week on this. We are cracking down.

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Speaker 3: We now have a plan to fix it, and we're

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Speaker 1: So this has been going on for many years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I covered this on the radio fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 4: Watch its Wings was buying stamps and buying what buying food.

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Speaker 2: Stamp She was buying food stamps from whom from everybody me,

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Speaker 2: including I buy food, I give them away. I'm just

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Speaker 1: This is routine people. Just one woman last week I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's staggering and so discouraging.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're a taxpayer and you're working hard

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Speaker 3: we found one guy in six states who was collecting

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Speaker 3: in six different states under the same number. But again,

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Speaker 3: if we hadn't asked for this data. And by the way, Laura,

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Speaker 3: these are the red states that turn their data over.

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Speaker 3: It is the blue states we're still trying to get

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Speaker 3: data on. Can you imagine if this fraud is happening

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Speaker 3: in the red states, what's happening in the.

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Speaker 2: Blue Sport state hiding well, hiding again. I think they're

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Speaker 2: buying their votes.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to push as much of our taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 3: a lot of free stuff. Depends so vote for us,

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Speaker 3: and it's dependency. Under President Trump, more jobs better, the

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Speaker 3: economy is growing, we've got better take home pay for

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Speaker 3: costs are coming down, and now it's time to get

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Speaker 3: serious about these government programs move people from welfare to

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Speaker 5: Yet again, another government program that is filled with this

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Speaker 5: level of corruption. The Agriculture Secretary warning that taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 5: are being wasted at a level that you can't even imagine,

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Speaker 5: and the numbers are getting worse as they're going through

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Speaker 5: the data. What this means is there is a system

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Speaker 5: that is broken. Democrats want to protect this system, and

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Speaker 5: they want to protect the abusers of the system because this,

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Speaker 5: they believe is giving them some sort of political power.

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Speaker 5: They are in essence, buying votes. Having Americans dependent on

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Speaker 5: them for their food stamps gives them power, gives them stability,

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Speaker 5: and gives them election victories. This is not about act

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Speaker 5: actually pulling people out of poverty. You notice, that's what

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Speaker 5: this is actually all about. And it brings me back

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Speaker 5: to twenty sixteen when Democrats were infuriated by what Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump was doing. Donald Trump was empowering African American men, women,

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Speaker 5: Native Americans, Asian Americans, and Latino Americans to get out

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Speaker 5: of poverty. Donald Trump saw the world differently, and he said,

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Speaker 5: I don't want you living in poverty in the government.

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Speaker 6: Paying your bills. I want you to live out of.

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Speaker 5: Poverty and be empowered to take care of yourself and

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Speaker 5: to thrive. And that is exactly what happened. Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: oversaw the lowest unemployment rate in history among African American men, women,

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Speaker 5: and Hispanics in this country, also Asian Americans and Native Americans,

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Speaker 5: which goes back to the big question. Why are Democrats

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Speaker 5: so hell bent on protecting a corrupt system? It is

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Speaker 5: simple that system is designed for one purpose, for the

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Speaker 5: Democrats to count votes, to buy votes, to bribe people

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Speaker 5: into supporting them and convincing people that they cannot make

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Speaker 5: it without the Democratic Party. It's an abusive relationship. And

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Speaker 5: now we're seeing just how much of our tax dollars

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Speaker 5: we're going to keep this system alive to buy those

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Speaker 5: votes of Americans. They're being left behind on purpose by

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Speaker 5: the Democratic Party.

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