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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: sr Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. And it is mock Draft Monday madness.

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Speaker 1: And uh, we're gonna do a little mock draft here

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Speaker 1: on Pro Football Focuses. Uh, mock draft Mock Draft simulator.

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Speaker 1: They've added some of their other good stuff on here,

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Speaker 1: their advanced settings. So you can now use the public

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Speaker 1: board versus their board. Oh, okay, which is a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. You can you can have more care for

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Speaker 1: positional value. So do we want more or less? Let's

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Speaker 1: try it. We've never done either, so let's give a shot.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go a little bit more on positional value. Okay,

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Speaker 1: drafting for needs, we can adjust that. So we want

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Speaker 1: other teams drafting for the needs? Yeah, yeah, I mean okay,

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Speaker 1: and then what needs really are? Yeah? And then the

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Speaker 1: final setting is randomness and I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm gonna not mess with the randomness

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Speaker 1: a whole life. So this now is a week in

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Speaker 1: this free agency again. We you know, when we did

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Speaker 1: our mock draft last Friday, we may have taken an

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Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman. Now we're not going to know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: in the seventh rounds. Yeah, So let's let's see where

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Speaker 1: this takes us here today. I'm gonna hit start on

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Speaker 1: this thing and we're gonna roll. Okay, trades are in play, right,

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Speaker 1: Raids are in play, beautiful, So we are now up

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Speaker 1: at seventeen. The players take it ahead of us, Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Will Anderson, c J Stroud, Tyree Wilson, Harris Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Junior Levis, Jalen Carter, Pete Scronski, Kristin Gonzalez, Quentin Johnston,

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Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, Roderick Jones, Devin Witherspoon, Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith,

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Speaker 1: and Jigbar And we are on the clock. I would

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Speaker 1: kind of keep my fingers crossed on Smith and Jig.

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Speaker 1: I know you were so the players available to us

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Speaker 1: Elijah Cancy, Brian Branch, Lucas van Ness, Joey Porter, Dalton Kincaide,

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Speaker 1: Deante Banks, Brian Brusee, Nolan Smith, Anton Harrison, Jean Robinson,

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer, Will McDonald, Josh downs we have. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I have five names I'm happy with, so I'd gladly

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Speaker 1: trade down. We have nine trade offers, nine the highest

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Speaker 1: the highest pick for the pick. This is those to stars.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are on the phone. They have twenty,

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Speaker 1: but we've also got on the phone. The Baltimore Ravens, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't do business with them. The New York Giants

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Speaker 1: at twenty five, the Bengals at twenty eight, the Saints

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Speaker 1: at twenty nine, the Eagles at thirty, the Browns at

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Speaker 1: forty two, of the Bears at fifty three. Sorry, Browns

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Speaker 1: and the Browns, Bears, Bengals, and Ravens. We're not We're

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Speaker 1: not picking up the phone there. So I mean we

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Speaker 1: could go back to twenty. We can go back to

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Let's think options. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 1: we need to explore six trade off I think you

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Speaker 1: go back to twenty for sure, if you can, if

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Speaker 1: you can make this work. Okay, So right now Seattle

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Speaker 1: has twenty denverse second round pick, which is thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. Fifty two eighty three, one twenty three. They've

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Speaker 1: already got our pick at one fifty one for the

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Speaker 1: killer Weatherspoon trade. They got one fifty four, one two

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Speaker 1: thirty seven and not unlother. This matters for what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: But they've already made a pick two, and they've already

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Speaker 1: made the fifth over I'll pick in the draft. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this and saying, what's that we

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Speaker 1: get that second off them? They're not going to give

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Speaker 1: up thirty seven fifty two. There is a four percent

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Speaker 1: chance that that would be accepted. They're only moving back

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Speaker 1: one fifty four two, throwing those sevens of course, and

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Speaker 1: percent chance of being accepted. If they accepted, I'll I'm happy. Man.

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Speaker 1: Moving down three spots, I might think they accepted it.

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Speaker 1: So there we go, all right, So we're not picking

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Speaker 1: at twenty. The pick at seventeen was Joey Porter Jr.

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Speaker 1: At eighteen was Brian Branch. At nineteen was Lucas fan

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Speaker 1: ness and that tape that makes us really easy for us.

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Speaker 1: I had smart five names, I had those three Bersee,

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Speaker 1: to our listeners. But now that we have four more

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Speaker 1: picks on day two, right, yes, doing the right math,

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Speaker 1: I'm fighting. We have we have five picks on day two.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight harder for tight ends than I usually do.

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Speaker 1: available right now at thirty two? What's that? Who's you

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Speaker 1: know who's available at thirty two whose name I did

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Speaker 1: not mention. I know Mayor is not. I know my

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Speaker 1: boy Musgrave is, and I think my boy Washington are.

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Speaker 1: But Jean Robinson is available. Oh I can't do it,

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Speaker 1: but you're out there. Yeah, we have no trade offers here,

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Speaker 1: but Bijean flipping Robinson is available. But we did do

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Speaker 1: the positional value thing. We did, so that's probably why

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Speaker 1: the running backs fell out of the first round. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Um Ursell locked up. Who who are some of the

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Speaker 1: Matthew berzer On. There's a lot of guys there. Did

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Speaker 1: did Washington go from Georgia? The tight end? I don't

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Speaker 1: they have him rated seventy first. Okay, behind Sam Laporta.

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Speaker 1: Laporta had a really good I mean report is really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're all the same tire. Yeah, and then Musgrave Washington.

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Speaker 1: the Julius Brents. I would consider there. I would too.

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Speaker 1: are the tight ends, aren't The tight ends are not?

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, I'm with you. I think he go tight.

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Speaker 1: Harrison is more of a finesse player. M de One

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Speaker 1: Jones is a is a power forward playing offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: the offseason to me, for the Steelers implies that size

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Speaker 1: and physicality is sort of important to them. Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: leads me to Jones. You know, you know how much

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Speaker 1: I've been pushing for a tight end. But if they

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Speaker 1: draft Jones at thirty two, I'm lining him up at

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Speaker 1: ten snaps as an inline tight end as a rookie

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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I mean it maybe more, maybe more

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Speaker 1: mean I might not be out there on third and

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Speaker 1: Top guys available Tanner McKee In, Duquezoma, Mazie Smith, b

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Speaker 1: um Bergeron is still there, Carl Brooks, Sidney Brown, Nick

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Speaker 1: Krbig they just signed his brother. Yeah, there's got to

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Speaker 1: if there's one that's I mean, if Washington and Musgrave

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Speaker 1: not going to stand on the table for any of those. Specifically.

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Speaker 1: we'd be drafting like eleven hundred pounds of men. Our

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Speaker 1: for us. It would just be devastation in there after.

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Speaker 1: take Campbell here. Okay, that's you're just thankful that you

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Speaker 1: have a chance to get him there. It's not like

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Speaker 1: he's a little fellow. He is not a little fellow.

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Speaker 1: Kind of funny looking, we're back up at eighty now

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Speaker 1: we have eighty and eighty three, so we get almost

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Speaker 1: drave back page too. I think he is and is

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Speaker 1: a day one starter. Your linebackers are pretty strong. Like

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Speaker 1: if him and hold him are your starters on day one,

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Speaker 1: that's where you want to be yeah, and you still

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's not bad. No. Um at eighty

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Speaker 1: top guys available Nathaniel Dell, Luke Whippler, Garrett Williams, Sam Laporta,

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