1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Home, y'all. This is Angela Rai. It is a Native 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Land Pod solo pod day, and I'm really I don't 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: know if I'll call it excited, but it is an 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: important conversation that we need to have. I think that 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: we continue to see in our comments this divide between 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: black folks who understand, appreciate, and want to be mindful 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of what's happening with migrants from all over the world 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: in this country right now, and those who want to 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: turn a blind eye to it because for whatever reason, 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: they're not able to tap into their humanity. I for one, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: think that it is really important when we have these 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: conversations about what's happening with people who have been in 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: this country, have you know, paid their dues, whether it's 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: military service, contributed to a college, environment, our hard workers 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: in their community, or whatever else, that we have the 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: opportunity to really have the conversation and name the individuals. 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: So today, what we are going to do on Native Lampod, 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: on this solo pod is dig a little deeper into 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: what is actually happening with the migrant CSIS crisis and 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: the random ice raids we're seeing in communities throughout the country, 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: especially when that city is led by a progressive or 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: a black mayor. And so here we are today. There 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: was a conversation we had recently with Anana Jomfi, who 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: is over seeing the Black Alliance for Just Immigration. She 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: was on with us recently and really shed a lot 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: of light on this. But Nana hasn't stopped there. She 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: continues to give us names of people who have been 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: adversely impacted by this country's really treacherous immigration policies. And 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: this one today strikes a completely different cord in a 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I want you to hear from 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Rodney Taylor's fiance. We will be joined by Mildred Pierre. 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to invite Mildred Pierre on to talk 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: about who Rodney Taylor is, to give you all some 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: background of about him, his story, how he's been impacted 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: by ice raids and detention, what he's waiting for, what 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: he needs from all of us, and what the path 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: forward might look like. We can't continue to have these 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: conversations in a vacuum, so I'm not going to give 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: you a stat and you determine how the stat doesn't 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: apply to you or why this doesn't matter. There are 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: a ton of people in this country who have contributed 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: to black history. My best friend and I were mentored 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: by someone named Carl Mack who came up with a 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: calendar of Black Facts. And this calendar of Black Facts 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: had the contributions of Black Americans, black folks throughout the 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: diaspora every single day. And when you go back through 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: a calendar like those filled with black facts, and you 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: go back through some of the people who have contributed 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: to hip hop and inventions and civil rights, you're going 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: to find that many of those people were either immigrants 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: themselves or they were the children of immigrants. So as 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: we continue to wrestle with what actually is and not 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: what we wish it would be, I think it's important 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: that we have this conversation in earnest and we have 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: it with the eye towards humanity. So we're going to 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: bring Mildred Pierre to the stage. Hi everyone, Hi Mildred, 60 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here and being bold 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: enough to come forward and tell the story of your 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: fiance Rodney Taylor. I would love for you to tell 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: us who Rodney Taylor is, where you all are located, 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Rodney Taylor is my fiance. He's a forty six year 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: old man that was born in Liberia. He came to 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: America when he was two. He a community leader, an advocate, 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: he is a master barber. We live in Loganville, Georgia 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: Metropolitan that's the Atlanta metropolitan area, about a hour away 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: from Atlanta. 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: And when you think about Rodney outside of his contributions, 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: because so often, and this is something that Nana has 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: told us as well, we talk about people in terms 74 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: of their work and not necessarily who they are as 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: human beings. So talk to us about the type of 76 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: human being Rodney is. 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: Rodney is a giver. 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: Little background. 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: So Rodney came to America for medical seeking medical help 80 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: and he received that medical help from Shriner's Children Hospital 81 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: and all his medical expenses was free, it was covered. 82 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: And so he always have this thing to give back, 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: God bless me. I have to give back. So from 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: the beginning of from I think from the time he 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: was sixteen is when he got certified and got his 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: barber schooling out the way he's been giving back. He's 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: the first step was his mom is a nurse, so 88 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: she would have these patients with their hair grown now 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: and she will tell him, hey, can you please come 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: cut my patient's hair because these patients are identified as 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: HIV AIDS patients and nobody wants to cut their hair, 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: so Rodney will go in cut their hair. He did 93 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: that for years as a young man, and then that 94 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: continued into him now, you know, going to senior centers 95 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: where now they expect them to come cut their hair 96 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: for free, and attending back to school events and cutting 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: underprivileged communities with free haircuts. He's especially sensitive to single 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: women that you know, have multiple boys that needed haircuts 99 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: in you know, we only have enough for one kid 100 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: and that the other three. 101 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: He also give back. He fundraised with Susan G. 102 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: Coleman. His mom is a breast cancer survivor and so 103 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: for the past two three years now he's been fundraisings 104 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: for Susan G. Coleman, giving back in that manner, connecting 105 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: with the community by joining the walk here in alliancea 106 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: metropolitan area. He is a very kind man and a 107 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: very patient man. We are he blended family. I come 108 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: with five children. He has two. One of the biggest 109 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: thing that was important with dating Rodney or trying to 110 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: see if he qualified. 111 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: Does he have the patience to deal with a woman 113 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: with five kids? And he has proven himself time and 114 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: time and again. My youngest daughter calls him daddy. Her 115 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: dad is physically absent, the last two physically absent, and 116 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: he has taken them by his wings, and they see 117 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: him as a father. Rodney is caring. He's giving spiritual 118 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: men praise many times when I am feeling weak in 119 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: this moment. While he's detained, he calls me and pray 120 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: for me, and when I should be doing that the 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: way around, selfless man. Even now, while he's detained, he 122 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: gives out free haircuts in the detainment center. He makes 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: sure that these big detainees are at least looking nice 124 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: before they go home to their to their native where 125 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: they were born. 126 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: Rather, Yeah, that's. 127 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Rodney does he Has he been mildred? Has he been 128 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: back to Liberia since he left when he was two? 129 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't even know what Liberia looks like. Rodney 130 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: came here when he was two and never been back. 131 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: He has no idea what that like. 132 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: And I'm asking that because I think that for many 133 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: of us, we would understand, right, somebody that I don't 134 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: have any memories. I don't think from before I was three, 135 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: So a lot of people, you know, when you contextualize 136 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: it in that way, you're like, oh, wait, I don't 137 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: actually have a election of that place. And this is 138 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: where he calls home. He's made it his home through 139 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: service and so many other ways. You talked about the 140 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: patience he exhibits as a father, But I also want 141 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: to talk about when you all got engaged in, how 142 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: you all knew that that was going to be your 143 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: next step. 144 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: So I had a fortieth party, and I've always wanted 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: this fortieth and I'm like, I want affordieth because I 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: haven't celebrated my birthday. 147 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: God knows, I can't remember it. 148 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: And so had we had a five year plan, we'll 149 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: get engaged at a five year mark. Well on my 150 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: fortieth that was the third year mark. So that's not 151 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: what I was expecting at all. So my family members, 152 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: I'm originally from Florida, they drove up, they flew in, 153 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: his family came, friends, colleagues, everybody showed up. 154 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: It was a party. We had a blast. Why aybody 155 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: looking at me? 156 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: I know, I know I am the you know, it's 157 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: my day or whatever. 158 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: But while they have me on stage or whatever, I 159 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: don't know what the MC is doing, but they nim 160 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: do his. 161 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: Thing and I look in the corner of my eye 162 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: and I'm. 163 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: Like what, Oh my god. He had a box and 164 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: the ring he had it opened, Like what you're doing. 165 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: We're not at the five year mark. What are you doing? 166 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you sure? And he was like yeah, 167 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: And then everybody's waiting for me to say I do, 168 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: but I'm still our. I do yes to the ring 169 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm still shocked, Like we're not We're 170 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: not at the five year mark yet. So that was 171 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: pretty cool. That was an awesome surprise from then. Uh 172 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, I was still on my little high of 173 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: being newly engaged. 174 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: And eleven days later he gets detained. That was very, 175 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: very hard. We had just decided on a date for 176 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: our wedding. 177 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: What is the date? 178 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: February twenty eighth, twenty seven, twenty twenty seven, so to 179 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty seven, and his family from Liberia called 180 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: and was like his stepdad rather, so we need your measurements. 181 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: We gotta you know, fit you and. 182 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: What it's only been a couple hours. 183 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: That was pretty cool, But that that came to a 184 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: very quick, short lived moment of. 185 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 4: Excitement when he got detained only eleven days later. 186 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: So eleven days after he proposed to you, you all 187 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: just set your wedding date. One thing that stood out 188 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: to me too, Beldrid, as you said, you know, he 189 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: calls you from the detention facility and praise for you. 190 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Can you talk about you know, it's now been almost seven. 191 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: Months, in eighty seven days, one. 192 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Hundred and eighty seven days, So talk about that impact. 193 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: You guys have seven kids together with your blended family, 194 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: talk about the impact on you. Rodney's mother and your children. 195 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 3: Rodney's mother, Rodney's sister, Rodney's brother, Rodney's aunt, cousins, uncles, nieces, nephews, clients, 196 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's clients. Some of them have not 197 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: gotten in America since the last time he touched their head. 198 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: They refused to cheat on him, right, they don't want 199 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: to cheat on his Barbara and the Barbara the community. 200 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: But then we'll start at home. His kids, they didn't 201 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: believe it. Our kids, we didn't believe it. I thought 202 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: it was like a scene from a movie, like who 203 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: are these people and why they why is. 204 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: The car surround it? 205 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know much about ice until he got picked up. 206 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: This was a learning curve for us. Emotionally, it was like, uh, 207 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 3: he'll be home soon, It'll turn around us temporary m 208 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: My son took it the hardest, him and my two 209 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: youngest daughters. I've had to seek therapy for him. He's 210 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: my only son. Rodney took him as his own and 211 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: separation anxiety. Ethan started acting out. And Ethan is an 212 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: A plus student. His GPA is like a four point 213 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: zero three and the boys in the tenth grade and 214 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: his study habits started to change and try to understand 215 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: whyse because Rodney's not here, It's like, Mom, does that 216 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: mean I have to be the man of the house. 217 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 4: I know his. 218 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: Children, you know, it's been really hard for them to cope, 219 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: Like is my dadd ever coming back? For my two 220 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: younger children that call him dad, you know, it was 221 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: hard for them too. They didn't know they saw him 222 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: get detained in front of me, in front of you know, 223 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: it happened as on the way to school. 224 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: They cried and cried. I remember the school called me. 225 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: He was like, is everything okay? Because you know, and 226 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I have had to tell them 227 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: what happened. And to this day, like recently, my one 228 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: of my daughters, she went to summer camp. 229 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: There was a gentleman there that looks just like Rodney. 230 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: She cried, she thought that was him, and when she 231 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: quickly realized that was him. 232 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: She's like, oh my god, I missed my daddy. Mommy, 233 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: when are we going to go see him? And is 234 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: he okay? When is he coming home? Like why every 235 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: time we go see him, he doesn't come with us. 236 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: And now they mad at me because they think it's 237 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: my fault and he's not coming with us. 238 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: Why are we leaving him behind? I remember the first. 239 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: Time I five to rolled through a tantrum, she put 240 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: herself on the floor and nasty, dirty floor. Mommy, He's 241 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: got to come with us. Why is he behind the wall? 242 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: And the wall is you know when you do the 243 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: visits is it's a it's a clear glass and it's 244 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: the phone that was hard to financially our income. You know, 245 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: we feel it emotionally, it's you know, you finally find 246 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: love somebody you trust that your kids love because I had. 247 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: I went through my kids first. With Rodney, I went 248 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: through my kids. I said, do you guys like this man? 249 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: If you guys don't, we could close this chapter. The 250 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: kids love him, so he got it to put in 251 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: the door with me because of my kids. 252 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: Kids. 253 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: I absolutely love him, and so it's hard financially, it's 254 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: hard emotionally. 255 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to carry my house. 256 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: That's a man's job. 257 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: A so. 258 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: And then romantically, I had purchase tickets to go on 259 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: dates in advance, and those dates has passed him. 260 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: Praying for me is trying to hold the household? 261 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: Is like when Moses couldn't hold up the tablets anymore, 262 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: and then Aaron had to come. Other folks had to 263 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: come help support his arm up as prayer. Is that 264 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: support up to help me carry this family? 265 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go Mildred back to the 266 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: day I had. You know again, people, when they write 267 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: these stories, it's you know who this person is in 268 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: terms of their occupation and the fact that they were 269 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: detained by ice. And sometimes they'll tell you for how long. 270 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: But in this instance, you're saying that he was detained 271 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: in front of your children. And can you take us 272 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: back to that day and what happened. 273 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: We were getting ready for school a Wednesday morning, January fifteenth. 274 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: It was about seven forty five in the morning. We 275 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: pulled off. But the day before there was a gentleman 276 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: that was in my driveway and he was looking at 277 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: my mailmarks. He was looking at one of my vehicles 278 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: that I drive. I walked up to him. I said, sir, 279 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: it's everything okay. I noticed he had a gun on 280 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: his hip. 281 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: I asked him. 282 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: I said, are you law enforcement? 283 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: He said no. 284 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: I said, okay, well who are you? And he was like, well, 285 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: this vehicle looked like it was an accident. I said 286 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: it clearly, it was not an accident. There's no the 287 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: car's not hit. So how might I help? 288 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: You said, while I'm looking for someone, do you know 289 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: Rodney Taylor? I said I do. 290 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: He said, okay, he may have driven this vehicle. I said, 291 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: nobody drives his vehicle. Only I drive this vehicle. And 292 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: then so he was just asking me questions about Rodney, 293 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, who are you? He never identified 294 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: himself and he quickly left, jumping the car left. The 295 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: next morning, I live like near a call to sack. 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: I look to the corner of my eye, I see 297 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: the car parked in the call to Sack, but I 298 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: didn't think nothing of it. So what we get in 299 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: the car? We drive off with the same car gets 300 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: behind me and there's two more cars that blocks me 301 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: from the front, so I can't go up, I can't 302 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: move forward, I can't move backwards. And the same gentleman 303 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: from the day before, get out, get out, Rodney Taylor, 304 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: get out. Guns drawn. It's like five six men armed, 305 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: get out, get out, Rodney Taylor, get out. Granted, the 306 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: cars aren't marked. These people aren't marked. Nobody. It doesn't 307 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: say ice, it doesn't say police. They weren't black and brown. 308 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: And I'm like, who are these people? 309 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: Well, you're being arrested for And they didn't really give 310 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: They just said you're being arrested and who were you guys? 311 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: Taking it Ice Atlanta? And I'm like, what is that? 312 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: What is ice? The kids are crying, Mommy, they're taking 313 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: daddy while they're arresting him. I don't like the police. 314 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 3: And my daughter straight asked one of them because they 315 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: came to my kids window too, because they were sitting 316 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: He was in a passenger passenger, seeall was driving? Were 317 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: you taking my daddy? Why are you taking my daddy? 318 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: And uh? One of the Ice guys actually felt bad 319 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: and it was like, we were just taking your daddy. 320 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: Your daddy would be okay. And they were crying. 321 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: They were crying, and I couldn't cry as much as 322 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 3: I wanted to because I had to kind of like 323 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: put up the front to be calm but really clear 324 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: my mind about who do I call? 325 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: Now? 326 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: Where is Ice? 327 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 328 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: Do we have a phone? Umber asks the gentleman for 329 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: the car, like, who were you? Never gave it to me? 330 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 3: Rodnie was like, call his lawyer. So I did googled 331 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: Ice Atlanta and that's how I learned where that is 332 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: and what that means. It was horrible that morning the kids. 333 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: I still dropped him off to school because I didn't 334 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: know what to do. I still had to go to work, 335 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: pretend like nothing happened. Called his lawyer and then shortly thereafter, 336 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: the teacher calls me, what's going on with Abigail? What's 337 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: going on with Annie? Two different schools now, two different 338 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: directors calling me, and the same thing. The kids are inconsolable. 339 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: Can you speak to them? 340 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: And I did. 341 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: I spoke to both of my girls, and the kids 342 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: thought by the time they got home that he would 343 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: be home. So when I picked him up from school, 344 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: they was like, so, where's where's daddy? Is he here? 345 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: He looked him on the whole house looking for him. 346 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: They thought it was some type of joke. Mommy's when 347 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: is he coming home? Can you go pick him up? 348 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 3: Why he's not home yet? 349 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to say. I think that was 350 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 4: the hardest thing, Like what do you say? 351 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 3: What do you say? His son he found out when 352 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: he went to the barbershop. We didn't even get a 353 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: chance to tell him. And I was able to contact 354 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: one up because Rodney had a client to waiting before 355 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: haircu Yes, right, you got people waiting for his services 356 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: and they were trying to figure out where he is. 357 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: And I had to find a way to communicate with 358 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: his clients to let them know that he's not available. 359 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: And then who who to call? Who would you trust 360 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: to know? 361 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: Is this a setup? 362 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 4: How and why did they pick him up? 363 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: It was a lot when they when you when you 364 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: dig into how and why did they pick him up? 365 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Did they ever tell you that it was about a 366 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: case from when he was sixteen years old that he's 367 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: been pardoned for. When did you find that out? 368 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: I found that out two days later. 369 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, how did they give you any explanation for it? 370 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Like normally, and I've done more federal losstuff. I worked 371 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: in Congress. So a pardon means that it is not 372 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: on your record. It means it essentially is like, I'm 373 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: not guilty now for what's happened. If they're resting the 374 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: entire basis for a potential deportation of Rodney Taylor on 375 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: a case that he was pardoned for from when he 376 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: was sixteen years old, how are they relying on that? Now? 377 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: What is your attorney saying? 378 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: That is wild? 379 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: Right? 380 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: Rodney is so rare. His attorney never seen an undocumented 381 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: person within it with a pardon. Rodney was accused of burglary. 382 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: He pleaded guilty back in ninety seven. He was seventeen. 383 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: He was a child, he was a kid. 384 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: It's almost thirty years ago. For those of us who 385 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: have a hard time with math, right, it's twenty eight 386 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: years ago, correct. 387 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 3: And he was profiled Who's railroad? He was a black 388 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: young team in an area home. As a matter of fact, 389 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: the day before. He had just came from Shriner's Hospital 390 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: in South Carolina for treatment for his prosthetics, and he 391 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: was home waiting to go register for his parents to 392 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: register him for school m because he had just moved 393 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: down to Georgia, and so he just so happened to 394 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: be home. There was a burglary that happened in the 395 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: neighborhood and they saw him sitting on the porch. They 396 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: accused him. They said, you have you did it because 397 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: you're you're home. He was scared. He was alone, no parents, 398 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: his parents are not available at the time, and they 399 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: picked him up and so they told him, if you 400 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: don't plead guilty, you're didn't do five years. 401 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: He was scared. Pleaded guilty. 402 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: Well, he did about nine months and he only died. 403 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: Probation until. 404 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: Years later he gets he's now looking to get his 405 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: get his documents in order, and so he cannot because 406 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: of this criminal situation, and so he goes and seek 407 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: a pardon. 408 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: Through one of his lawyers from back then, and they. 409 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: Gave him the pardon because back then, let's be honest, 410 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: the cab had a lot going on, the Cab County, 411 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: and I believe they really saw the injustice there, they 412 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: really saw what happened with him, and it granted him 413 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: a pardon. And so the pardon, which is wild because 414 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: it's an unconditional pardon. If you look it up online, 415 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: it says unconditional pardon, yet it seems not to apply 416 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 3: to him. Why does it not apply to him? Just 417 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. I can't go into the legal 418 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: aspects of all that, but he does have a pardon, 419 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: and ICE is not recognizing that. 420 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: And I guess my my question is what what what 421 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: did they say triggered there? Like I guess, I know, 422 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: I can't even like find the words, but it to me, 423 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: what's baffling is there are people on the streets right 424 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: now who are migrants who are committing active crimes, not 425 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight year old's offenses that it sounds 426 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: like did not even happen. He just was in the 427 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time, right. But if you are talking 428 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: about people who they're trying to get off the streets, 429 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: who are violent, dangerous criminals as they've been branded, what 430 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: does Rodney have to do with it? And like, why 431 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: were they utilizing him to make an example of that? 432 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Is what's mind blowing to me. You talked about when 433 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: he was sixteen, he just came back from a medical 434 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: appointment for his prosthetics. Can you talk about that, because 435 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I think that's also important context for this. 436 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: Rodney is a double amputee. He came here from my 437 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: beer when he was two because of his medical condition. 438 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: Rodney was born with cub his left foot cubbed I'm sorry, 439 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: left foot missing, right foot cubbed. Shriners was in neighboring country, Ghana, 440 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: and they so happened to go to Liberia and they 441 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: saw Rodney in his condition in the hospital. 442 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 4: Well, fun fact, it's horrible. 443 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: But when you're born in uh in Africa with disability, 444 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: you considered taboo. 445 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: You consider that you're born of witchcraft. 446 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: Most often children are mutilated murdered because they believe that 447 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: you have some type of spirit on you. So they 448 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: you know, they don't want to be around you. So 449 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: his mom hid him for two years, hit him from 450 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: society for two years so he won't get kidnapped and murdered. 451 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: And so knowing all of this, Shriners just so happened 452 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: to be in the neighborhood, I guess or and he 453 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: was there for treatment because he did had two of 454 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: his first surgeries in Liberia, but they couldn't continue, and 455 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: so Shriners saw that he was fit to he could handle. 456 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: We want to try to give him a better life, 457 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: so let's bring him to the States. They couldn't even 458 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: do a MARI, they couldn't do an X ray because 459 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: those machines and devices do not does not exist in Liberia, right, 460 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: And there was a civil war, huge civil war where 461 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 3: the president at the time was overthrown. His dad was 462 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: part of the legal legal the political party there that 463 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 3: went into hiding and was arrested because he was part 464 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: of the It was a lot. So mom goes into hiding, 465 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Dad gets arrested, put in jail, and during all of 466 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: this civil war happening, he has his medical condition and 467 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: so Shriner approves him to come to the States for 468 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: medical care. He gets here and he had his first 469 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: surgery maybe six months after he arrives in nineteen eighty two. 470 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: He arrived in eighty one, and. 471 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: And the surgery was to try to fix his foot 472 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: his leg, and they fitted him with a prosthetic for 473 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: his right foot, so he always had I'm sorry for 474 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: his left foot, So he always had a prosthetic for 475 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: his left foot. And so to give you understanding, Rodney 476 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: does not have any feet. Right, here's a double amputy, 477 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: one below the lean, one above the knee. So to 478 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: be accused of burglary, to say that he climbed out 479 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: of a window, carried a stereo system and his disability 480 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: is not possible. 481 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: Rodney can't be lift me up. I'm about it. 482 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: I'll be onto my weight. I'm about one hundred and 483 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: forty five pounds. He can't lift me up because of 484 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: the weight that it produces on his prosthetics. So to 485 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: be accused back then in the nineties, the prosthetics now 486 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: that we have are amazing. Right, there's micro trip. You 487 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: could plug it into the wall and charge it. It's 488 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: like the fancy stuff. Well, back then they were made 489 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: out of wood. They were a lot more heavier than 490 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: they are now. And so to be accused as a 491 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: young man with double prosthetics that he told them in 492 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: court like, there's no way I could have done this. 493 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: Look at my legs. 494 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: He showed them their prosthetics, and yet they. 495 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 4: Still charging with berger. 496 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: So no, I'm sorry, go ahead and make sure I apologize. 497 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're good. 498 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 4: I appreciate you too. 499 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I am I'm curious now to hear what they're saying 500 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: about the case. Are they detaining him indefinitely? Is their 501 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: plan to deport him? What's the latest of what you 502 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: are hearing. 503 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: We did a protest to last month because he had 504 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: a hearing July second, and that protest was to bring 505 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: awareness to what's happening to him as a UHL, as 506 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: a detainee with medical you know needs. Well, we're grateful 507 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: that we're able to do that protest. At that hearing, 508 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: they did provide him his final hearing date. His final 509 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: hearing date is August twelfth, and that's at that date 510 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: is when we'll. 511 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: Know if he will be released or deported. 512 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 3: It's scary, but we believe God we will know at 513 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: that time that don't will make that final decision at that. 514 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Time, So August twelfth, and I guess my question for 515 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: you to Madrid is what are you asking the community 516 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: to do. Rodney's clients, the neighbors, the folks who are 517 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: the kids and the parents of the folks who'se hair 518 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: he cuts for free because he just wants people to 519 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: feel good and look good. For people hearing this story 520 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: for the first time. What would you ask people to 521 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: do as you prepare for this hearing on August twelfth. 522 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: I want to tell people contact Congress. David Scott is 523 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: our state representative here in Georgia. Call Congress, write letters. Hey, 524 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: we heard what happened with that I named Rodney Taylor 525 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: pushed to get him out. We are grateful that Senator Warnock. 526 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: Some folks from his office came h came to Georgia 527 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: and saw him. They met with Rodney a few weeks 528 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: ago and they heard his concerns and escalated it. We 529 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: also have a goalfundme his legal His legal expenses is 530 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: not cheap, and so call Congress. Be a little more sensitive. 531 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: I have to admit myself, even though I am a 532 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: first generation Haitian American, I didn't know anything about immigration 533 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: until now. Be more sensitive about what other folks may 534 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: be going to going through. And now you know blacks 535 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: are being targeted. You know it's a lot of Latinos 536 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: being profiled, right, and it's you know, before you know 537 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: the thing about the Haitians getting picked up. 538 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: You know we're all a target. It doesn't matter anymore 539 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: what you look like. 540 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: So try to be conscious of that just because you're 541 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: not an immigrant, you could be targeted to You can 542 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: be in the Rodney shoes and waiting three four days to. 543 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: Prove that you and you a citizen. 544 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: That's right. 545 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Contact Congress David Scott, contact Assoft office. Senator also 546 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: Senator Warnock. Support the goalfundme? 547 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: How do they support their. 548 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: The goalfundme is on his instagram. Gwennette underscore one. His 549 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: TikTok is the same name, Gwennett underscore one. His website 550 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: pocthebarber dot com. I try to update that as much 551 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: as I can. Share his story, let people know what's happening. 552 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot happening with the Colatino community 553 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: and they support each other. 554 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: Say that for the people in the back, Mildred, do 555 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: they support each other? I want to have one final 556 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: question you you said your first generation Haitian American, how 557 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: do you feel in this moment they have eliminated TPS 558 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: for Haitian Americans, which is Temporary Protective status or Haitians 559 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: who have come over from Haiti. But do you have 560 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: any concerns yourself seeing what's happened to your fiance knowing 561 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: that they have they are trying to undo what we've 562 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: relied upon, multi generational black folks with birthright citizenship. How 563 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: are you feeling, Are you concerned at all about your 564 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: own safety? 565 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: That's wild. My parents we buried my parents, Mom and 566 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: dad is gone and they are rolling in their graves 567 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: right now. My mom came here with status. She came 568 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: to the States in the seventies, early seventies with a 569 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: permanent residency already. Then Shorty became a citizen. She helped 570 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: my dad get his citizen, his permanent residency. That's probably 571 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: why I don't know anything about the immigrations TEP because 572 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: the already have their status. 573 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: Is necessari thing I'm familiar with at all. 574 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: But it's sad because I know people that's on TPS 575 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: that are Haitian. 576 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: They're afraid, they. 577 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: Don't know, you know, they established their life here, this 578 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: is all they know, right and being scared to go 579 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: back to a war torn country like Haiti. Can't support 580 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: these people. 581 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: It's I mean, either gonna get murdered or gonna die 582 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: of starvation. 583 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 3: Either way. It's you know, early grave being deported to Haiti. 584 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: It's wild that they're even thinking about stuff like that, 585 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: and I'm grateful that most of my family members are 586 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: here in the States, and the ones that are in 587 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: haity choose to be there for business. So it's scary. 588 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: It's sad, you know, like we're targeted because we were black. 589 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: It's a lot of the colored countries that are cut 590 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: off with TPS or they have to travel band right, yes, No, 591 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: they have to travel countries in Africa. 592 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 4: Yes, and then you do boarding people back there. 593 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: That's wild. 594 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: That doesn't make any sense. One plus one is two, right, 595 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: trying to. 596 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: Supposed to Yeah, And that's just it. I think, Mildred. 597 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: What's important for us is to recognize every place that 598 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: they see as a vulnerability. So being first generation potential target, 599 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, having birthrights, citizenship as a compromise or a 600 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: target for them, the actual constitution now targeted. We are 601 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: all unsafe. And I think if I can do anything else, 602 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: if I can't do anything else on this podcast, it 603 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: is to help us all deepen into the points of 604 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: connection so that we can be more supportive and more 605 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: clear about what is not what we wish it would be, 606 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: but what is actually before us. And so you know, 607 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: we know that Rodney was detained before Donald Trump was inaugurated. 608 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: So this has been a problem. But I think you 609 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: said something so good before we came on, and it 610 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: is they knew he was coming. They knew Donald Trump 611 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: was coming, so they knew that this type of behavior 612 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: would not only be accepted and tolerated, it would be celebrated. 613 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: So I think that you know, knowing how we can 614 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: show up for Rodney, our dear brother, especially with the 615 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: history of Liberia, which we didn't have time to get into, 616 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: but there are so many Black Americans who went back 617 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: to the continent. The reason why brother's name is Rodney 618 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Taylor is because there's a Black American connection to that 619 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: part of the continent, you know, and so. 620 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: Great great grandfather, I'm sorry to cut you off Handela 621 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: was a US citizen. 622 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: He was born in the eighteen hundreds in Houston, Texas. 623 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Case in point, there's a reason why his name is 624 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: Rodney Taylor from Liberia. So I just want us to 625 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: understand that our history is nuanced, it is complex, and 626 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: we have to lead with compassion and with human story. So, Mildred, 627 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for your courage and sharing this. Know 628 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: that Rodney is not the only one lifting up your 629 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: arms like Aaron, you have a whole community behind you, sister, 630 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: and whatever we can do to be supportive on August 631 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: twelfth and beyond, I'm going to try to make it 632 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: a point to show up to that hearing, and I'm 633 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: going to encourage folks all over Georgia to do the same. 634 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: I will. I'm committing to reach out to Congressman Scott, 635 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: who's one of my former bosses I work for the 636 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus, and I will reach out to Senator 637 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: Warnock and Senator Osoff as well to make sure I 638 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: know that you said, Senator Warnock is aware. But those 639 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: are my commitments. We end every podcast with a call 640 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: to action, so my calls are showing up August twelfth, 641 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: reaching out to Congressman Scott and reaching out to Senator's 642 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: Warnock and asof and if there's anything else I can 643 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 1: do for y'all, make sure you have my cell phone number. 644 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Angela. I appreciate your time. 645 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: But I want to give a shout out to Boggie 646 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 3: Yes Nana, amazing organization. 647 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: My god. 648 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: You know the progress of connecting with me and my 649 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: family and Sharon Rodney story is not possible with all 650 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: these amazing organizations and without you Angela willing to share 651 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: and have me on Native land. Thank you so much 652 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 3: for your time. Thank you all, re for Geo, thank 653 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: you to my church. Thank you to my friends. His family, 654 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: his sister, his mother, his brother, his children, all his 655 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: kids got seven now you can't tell me you he 656 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 3: ain't got seven kids. But thank you so much. 657 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 4: I appreciate your time and God blessed. 658 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you my sister. We're here for you. 659 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. It means a while. 660 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, everyone, we have a lot of work to do. 661 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: The immigration space is just one of those areas. Mildred 662 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: touched my heart deeply. I didn't get to tell her, 663 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: but my great great grandmother's name was Catherine Pierre. There 664 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: are connections to Haiti and my family as well, on 665 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: the Gordon side, not on the Pier side. But who knows, 666 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: we might be long lost cousins. And for that reason 667 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: I want to tell y'all, especially the black folks who 668 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: listen to the Native lampot, we are all connected. Family, 669 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: we are all connected. We cannot afford to leave any 670 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: of our folks out there hanging out to dry by themselves. 671 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: We are all we got. That means we are all 672 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: we got from Liberia to Ghana, to Haiti, to Brazil, 673 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: to the Virgin Islands, to the United States of America, 674 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: and that meaning to Canada. We know, y'all know we 675 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: got some Jamaica folk in Toronto, Okay. So I just 676 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: want us to understand. I should have said Jamaica too. 677 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: All that happened along the way from the continent as 678 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: many of us and our ancestors were transported beyond our will, 679 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: without our will, kidnapped from our families. The slave ships 680 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: went to different places, and so I implore you to 681 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: understand and know your history. I know books are being banned, 682 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: but I will give you a reading list. If you 683 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: can't get it at your school's library or the local library, 684 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: I am happy to ensure that we give you reading 685 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: materials so you understand the inherent connection we have through 686 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: blood and through spirit. But most important, I just asked 687 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: that you stand formed. Rodney Taylor is one story. He 688 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: is not the only Story's hearing is August twelfth. The 689 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: show up in mass Georgia, NLP. Let's go. And I 690 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: think that we got to make sure that we show 691 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: up differently in this moment with courage, without fear, and 692 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: making sure that they know that they will not still 693 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: and disappear our folks in front of our faces, and 694 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: we won't say anything. We will show up in masks 695 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: for Rodney Taylor and for so many other Rodney's all 696 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: over this country. I Love y'all. 697 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 4: Welcome Home, y'all. 698 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 699 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 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