1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 4: Neil s Vader and John is out. Happy to be 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 4: to be with you today. On the phone with us 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 4: is Luke bar ABC News law enforcement reporter out of Washington. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: Luke, Welcome to the program. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 5: Hey, how are you? 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: I am Welser. How about yourself? 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 5: I can't complain doing okay. 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on in regards to what has 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: it been like twenty five hours since the helicopter crash, 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: six people killed. 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: There in New York. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: We had the NTSB chair chairperson Jennifer Homendi Homandy. She 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 4: said that they won't speculate, but what did we did 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 4: we get anything out of today's press conference? 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 5: Well, what we what we found out is that, you know, 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 5: they're still actually actively investigating what happened. What we do 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 5: know is that a dive team is actually in. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: The river right now. They're looking to see what else 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: they can find. I mean, you saw the pictures of 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: the helicopter pulled out of the of the river, and 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: and you know, she just said, it's a way to 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: really to speculate as to what happened. How this happened. 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: But certainly they're they're looking at every possible scenario, but 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, the video and photo is something they're going 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to be looking for. 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: And actually, she she she wanted the public to give. 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Over any video or any photos they have of the 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: crash to sort of put the pieces together and figure 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: out what happened. 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: You know, we live in a time, as you just 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: pointed out, Luke, and I thought that hit me as well, 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: that the request was listen if you have photographs. Obviously 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: a very popular place for people to be on vacation. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what these folks were on vacation, sadly, 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: and so there's bound to be more. I think the 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: first images we saw were probably from that as well. 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: We what we. 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: Could see is is before it even hit, it was 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: in pieces. The rotor, the top roator, the main roader 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: was disengaged from the remainder of the vehicle. The fuselage itself, 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 4: if that's what they referred to on a helicopter, was separated. 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: And if you look up, I was poking around earlier. 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: You look up, you know common causes of helicopter crashes. 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: The first two The first is human error, the second 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 4: and these are percentages. The second is mechanical failure. So 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: you look at that and you see, you know, the 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: rotor blades separated. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of hard. 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: You didn't see any real explosion or anything like that 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: until they you know, hit. Are you hearing a lot 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: of speculation and mumbles through other reporters and in your 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: investigation yourself just reporting on this? 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think it is just way to realize. 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 5: I mean, for example, you know, they're still working to 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 5: recover a lot of the helicopter, including the main road 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 5: or the main transmission, the roof structure, the tail structure. 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: So you know, it is just I think unfortunately too 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: early to tell what exactly happened. You know, there's you know, 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: something the Antiesty does really well is that they really 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: do a good job of investigating a lot of these 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: incidents and getting down to exactly what happened, exactly when 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: it happened, where it happened, and really they make these 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: recommendations after they've done and their investigation, so these unfortunates 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: and don't ever happen again. 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: And something A couple of interesting things that were said 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: by the ntsbach Here person Jennifer Hummindy today. One was which, hey, 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: we don't even step in until some things done first, 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: obviously recovering bodies and things like that. So now the 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: NTSB is eyeballs deep in their investigation. 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: But she also stated something that was interesting. 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: She said they have a lot of information already, even 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: though they were asking for videos and photographs. She said, 76 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: we have a lot of information. She said very specifically 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: that she wasn't that the NTSB was not going to speculate, 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: and that there was they're going to be pouring over 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: all this information. You stated that they're still scuba divers 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: in the water right now. Is there any upcoming press 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: conferences or anything expected that you expect today? 82 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 5: Well, I think we'll see the divers get out of 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 5: the water by nightfall. On the East coast, it's cold 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 5: and rainy and in dreary, so you know, I think 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 5: that we'll see the divers get out of the water 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: by nightfall, and you know, and a certain point they're 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: going to have to in. These diberts, by the way, 88 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: make pure are from the New York, New Jersey area. 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 5: They're not NTSP diverts. They're they're local to New York 90 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: and New Jersey. Uh, you know, I think that we'll 91 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: see as a sort of case unfolds, the ntsp offer 92 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 5: more updates. Uh and and eventually, uh we'll see in 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: a few months, we'll see a full report of what happened. 94 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: But I do think that the ntspill will continue to 95 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: update the public as a sort of these pieces roll 96 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: in to their investigation. 97 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: Luke Barr, ABC News law enforcement reporters on with me 98 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: right now. 99 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: One last question, Luke before we let you go. 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: The it looked from everything I saw poking into this myself, 101 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: was that visibility was at about ten miles. My understanding 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: is just under a mile or so is when there's 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: major concerns. So it didn't seem like that was a problem, 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: even though there was you know, clouds and the like. 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: Have you heard anything where weather is a possible concern 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 4: from the flight yesterday? 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: No, And and and I think it is. It's too 108 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you think about what happened, uh 109 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 5: here in walking in d C with the with the plane, 110 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 5: uh in the helicopter that collided outside of Reagan Airport. 111 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: Those conditions were were were clear, and and so you 112 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: know it's just going to be a matter of uh, 113 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: you know, the NTSB. They're really drilling down on what 114 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: whether this was a weather issue, whether this was a 115 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: mechanical issue, whether it was a fuel issue. I mean, 116 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: it's it's just, you know, one of those things that 117 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: the ntc SP is going to have to make the 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: determination and then you know, offer recommendations to to to 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 5: make sure that doesn't happen again. 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: All right, thanks so much for your time, Luke bar 121 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: ABC New Law News, Law Enforcement reporter out of Washington. 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: I appreciate your time, Luke, thank you. All right, stick 123 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: around Neil here. John Cobelt is out today back with 124 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: more on this. I have some thoughts and of course 125 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: some conspiracy theories popping up. More things that I learned 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: looking into the horrible crash of that you know, tourist 127 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: sightseeing helicopter yesterday in New York, and the people that 128 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: were on it, the actual passengers, and why this is 129 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: lending itself to conspiracy theories. 130 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: When we returned, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand 131 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: from KFI AM six forty. 132 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Neil Savadra. 133 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: John Cobelt is out today and you've got Conway coming 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: up at four o'clock, so go know where helicopter crash 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: left a Semens executive, his family sadly, including four eight 136 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: and ten year old dead, and his wife the pilot 137 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: as well. 138 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: Just yesterday. I think we're what twenty five twenty. 139 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: Six hours out, Deborah from the crash yesterday. 140 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 7: That it happened around this time. 141 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Actually, so sad story. 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: You have a sightseeing helicopter plunged into the Hudson River 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: yesterday kind of your routine Manhattan Skyline. Look, you know, 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: at all the places you'd expect to be visited were visited, 145 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: kind of that goes around the Statue of Liberty and 146 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: things like that. And I think they were what seventeen 147 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 4: eighteen minutes into the tour. 148 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 7: Which is so scary. 149 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 8: I mean you always hear that taking off and landing 150 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 8: are the most dangerous times you're in a plane. But 151 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 8: here it happened smack right in the middle of the trip. 152 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 153 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: And and because you have this individual with his family. 154 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: The victims include Augustine Escobari's forty nine, his wife, who 155 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: is I think nine years his I think she was 156 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: celebrating her fortieth or something, so ten years I guess roughly. 157 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: They both worked for Semens, the company he was the 158 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: CEO of rail infrastructure at Semens Mobility. They are the 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: transportation Solutions division there at Semens. So you know, all 160 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: of our minds the conspiracy, conspiracy theories are popping all 161 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: over the place, because if you remember, back in December, 162 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: you had Brian Robert Thompson, who was the CEO of 163 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 4: the American Health Insurance company we all know. As a 164 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: matter of fact, I think that might be one of 165 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: my insurances, United Healthcare, was shot killed there in midtown Manhattan, 166 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: there in New York by Luigi Mangioni, who is becoming 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: a bit of a folk hero, folk hero rather, and 168 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: so your mind goes to, well, what the hell happened? 169 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: It's a bizarre site, Debora. Did you see the video 170 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: where you can definitively see that the rotor the main 171 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: rot is off of it has parted ways with the 172 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: main body of the aircraft. 173 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 174 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 8: All the video that I have seen is terrifying. It 175 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 8: is unbelievable to see what happened to that helicopter. 176 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: And a Thursday out there in Manhattan. I got to 177 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: imagine that we're going to be seeing, you know, as 178 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: we heard earlier, we were talking with Luke Barr, ABC 179 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: News Law Enforcement reporter from Washington just a couple of 180 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: minutes ago, and we were talking about was it a 181 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: couple hours ago or something like that? To the NTSB 182 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: chairman chairperson Jennifer Homandy came out and spoke about this. 183 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: She asked and requested for people to share videos from 184 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: their phones, pictures or those types of things. I imagine 185 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: on a Thursday, just before spring break that there might 186 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: be people visiting it. 187 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sure. 188 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 8: I mean, yesterday we have on the air some people 189 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 8: that actually sought and they were just shocked and terrified 190 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 8: to see what was happening to this helicopter. 191 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. I used to visit my brother. He and his 192 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: husband have a place out in Manhattan. So I would 193 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 4: visit probably twice a year, go out and hang with him, 194 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: go to the bars and go to the speakeasies and 195 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: food and all that stuff. And so you know, I'm 196 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: going through my head at the location and all these things. 197 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: I couldn't help. And I was there in July last 198 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: July with my own eight year old and my wife, 199 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: and you can't help. 200 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: I know, you do this. 201 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: It's human nature, Deborah, that we put ourselves in those places. 202 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: As you know, if you. 203 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 4: Saw that, And when I first heard about the crash, 204 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: I didn't know that the people they were talking about 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: passing away because they said tourists, I thought they were 206 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: originally and I heard bits and pieces thought they were originally. 207 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: On the ground. Oh, I was like, you know. 208 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: So then as the information came out and learning, But 209 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: now we are in the conspiratorial stage, and I'm not 210 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: a big conspiracy person. 211 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: I think. 212 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: I'm more lean on what they refer to as Akham's razor. 213 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: And if you're not familiar with that logic, that logic 214 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: it means basically, if you heard galloping outside your house, 215 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: don't assume it's a zebra. 216 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's probably a horse. 217 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: I mean the most I wouldn't think it was a 218 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 4: dog because it's galloping. You hear the mont of python coconuts, 219 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: and then you process the most logical thing. Now, when 220 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: I was looking and doing some research, I found that 221 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: helicopters mostly are downed by two things. The number one 222 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: thing is human error and the second is mechanical issues. 223 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: So from what I see so far, I see a rotor, 224 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: the main rotor off of the aircraft. 225 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with there with some mechanical problems. 226 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: Then you go into you know, Ray had a bunch 227 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: of stack of great information that I was pouring through, 228 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: and you look at not only this particular airline, this 229 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: airline for these sightseeing tours has had some issues. 230 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: In the past. 231 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I imagine when you're dealing with mechanics, there's 232 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 4: a lot of variables. I mean, people, I tell people 233 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: a lot. Don't be surprised by the average or the mundane. 234 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: People go, oh my gosh, my day was ruined today. 235 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: I got a flat tire. I'm like, you're driving a 236 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: six thousand pound metal vehicle at speeds just under one 237 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: hundred miles per hour on air filled rubber balloons, and 238 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: you're I'm surprised when mine don't pop and I get 239 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: to somewhere safely. Like, we get surprised by things that 240 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: are kind of silly. Our tires should be popping all 241 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: the time, and the technology is such that they don't, 242 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: So it surprises this. But mechanical things are going to 243 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: break down, and if they're in the sky, they're going 244 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 4: to fall out of the sky. 245 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 5: Well. 246 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 8: You know what was interesting though, this morning when I 247 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 8: was watching TV news, they were talking about the company 248 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 8: that owns this helicopter that they wiped out everything all 249 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 8: on social media, everything about the company. It was right 250 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: after the crash, so I thought that was I didn't 251 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 8: know that. Yeah, I thought that was really strange. 252 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 7: Who did the company that owns. 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 8: The helicopter the crashed, Because yes, there was a problem. 254 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 8: I don't know if it was in twenty eighteen, there 255 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 8: was something. 256 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: Well there's stuff that goes back. There was one. 257 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: The most recent one I think was twenty thirteen from 258 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: what I you know what I say. 259 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 8: Thirteen, But this TV news report was talking about how 260 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 8: they start they just wiped their web cyclean so I 261 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 8: don't know what that's about. 262 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: Well, that wouldn't be good. 263 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 8: Well, it just kind of is suspicious, right. I mean, 264 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 8: I'm not saying anything, but you know what I'm saying. 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: So they had concerns about safety of low altitude helicopters 266 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: to begin with there in New York City. And we 267 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: had another recent one. I can't remember if it was 268 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: in Hawaii or something, but there was a recent enough 269 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: one that it came to my mind. But helicopter operations 270 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: in the Hudson River have long had criticism of people 271 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: concerned about these low altitude flights for psyche seeing and 272 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: the like. Thirty people died in helicopter accidents in the 273 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: New York City area from nineteen seventy seven, nineteen or 274 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, according to the Associated Press here. That includes 275 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: a twenty eighteen crash that killed five passengers in a 276 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: doors off aerial tour. Now does that mean they're flying 277 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: around without the doors on on? 278 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: Oh? 279 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: God, yeah, I prefer you know, I prefer doors on 280 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: a boat if I could have them. 281 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 282 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: So these are the things that are going to be 283 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: poked at by the NTSB. I don't know when we're 284 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: going to hear from them, but I imagine with the amount 285 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: of information and the fact they still have scuba divers 286 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: there out of not the NTSB but local authorities there 287 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: have scuba diver divers out there recovering parts the bodies 288 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: have already been recovered. Recovering parts of the aircraft to 289 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: me means that there's you know, they will be able 290 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: to trace everything back to some failure if that's what 291 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: it was. 292 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: I have a question for you. You have a young child, 293 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 7: a son. 294 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight years old? Right? 295 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: Well, with this is this going to give you pauseed? Ever? 296 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 7: Taking him on a helicopter. 297 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: Tour, yes, and I would have Normally, I'm not that guy. 298 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: I tend to believe that, you know, hey, you gotta 299 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: everybody's doing their job. But this one did. Yeah, looking 300 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: through and I'll tell you why. And I hate to 301 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 4: say that because these people, you know, this is how 302 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: they make their living. And I you know, and I've 303 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: been on many helicopters and many helicopters tours tours, but 304 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 4: you know this this one. Yeah, when it comes to 305 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: my son, I'm a little different about it. 306 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 8: I would not take my kids when they were younger. 307 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 8: I did not take them on any helicopters. In fact, 308 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 8: the last time I was in a helicopter was before 309 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 8: I had kids. 310 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 311 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would definitely give paus all right. Speaking of 312 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: brothers or kids, bad kids, Benanda's brothers, Michael Munk's gonna 313 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: join us, go nowhere, Neil on right now, John is off. 314 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 315 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 6: six forty. 316 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: Neil savadra here, John is out today. Don't forget. You 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: have Tim Conway Junior coming up at four, and then 318 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: you have mo'kelly at seven, who has now seen on 319 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: YouTube nightly if you haven't had a chance to watch that. 320 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: I watched that the other night. It was pretty great. 321 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: It's kind of fun to see things. I wish we 322 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: all did it, but not all of us look like, mo, 323 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: you don't need you don't need my face. Uh, there's 324 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: a lot going on in Los Angeles and we you 325 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: know the turd that is you. If you drive around 326 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: LA right now with your windows down, you can smell 327 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: City Hall. It's a problem, and we'll get into that later. 328 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, UH Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez is 329 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: going to call in at two o'clock. You know, she 330 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: was the first person that I heard talk about there 331 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: were problems with accounting and UH city Hall and the 332 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: homeless situation, and that they weren't accounting properly and it 333 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: did not get traction. So now that it's getting traction 334 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: and people are listening to and going, oh yeah, yeah, 335 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: this is bad, we're going to talk to her coming up. 336 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 4: The Menendez brothers. We have our very own Michael Monks 337 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: in with us the hearing today. Have we learned anything yet? 338 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 5: We have? 339 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 9: Okay, no decisions have been made yet, but basically this 340 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 9: was a hearing that was motivated by one La County 341 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 9: DA Nathan Hawkman, who says, you know, our office previously 342 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 9: made a request to consider re sentencing these Meninez brothers 343 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 9: and possibly releasing them for time served, but that was 344 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 9: under his predecessor, George Gascon and Nathan Hakman seems to 345 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 9: be no fan of the Menindez brothers. Whatever that documentary did, 346 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 9: whatever that docu drama series did, it didn't affect him 347 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 9: at all, didn't pull out his heartstrings at all. 348 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: So he has asked the judge to allow that motion 349 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: to go away. 350 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 9: Now the court has its own possible resentencing coming up. 351 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 9: There might be a hearing next week on that matter, 352 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 9: but Hawkman wants his own offices motion pulled. He does 353 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 9: not think that the Menines brothers should be resentenced. He's 354 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 9: already come out and said, I don't think they deserve 355 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 9: a new trial. They want to get out. Let governor 356 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 9: knew some deal with it. So basically what he's done 357 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 9: at court today, prosecutors from his office have shown a 358 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 9: bloody crime scene photo from that case involving Eric and 359 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 9: Lolman and Dez. Because what Hawkman seems to be doing 360 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 9: here is reminding folks that, yeah, a lot of years 361 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 9: have passed. Yes, we've gotten to know that they may 362 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 9: have behaved mostly well in prison, maybe they've changed a 363 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 9: little bit. And yes, there were some Netflix or online 364 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 9: streaming series that pulled at people's heartstrings. But they have 365 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 9: not fully taken responsibility for a crime that was extraordinarily 366 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 9: gruesome and brutal. 367 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 368 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 4: I gotta imagine there's some blood when you shoot your 369 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: mom in the face with a shotgun. 370 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: And your dad too. Yeah. 371 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 9: I mean, no matter how big your house in Beverly Hills, 372 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 9: is that blood's going to spray. 373 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a I remember it. I remember listening to 374 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: this very program with John and Can listening to the 375 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: coverage during all of this. And and I think reasons 376 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: are important when it comes to crime. There are you know, 377 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: there are mitigating circumstances in some situations. I don't know 378 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: what it would take to want to shoot your parents 379 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: if I don't know what kind of whatever, abuse, whatever, 380 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: you'd have to go. However, all I know is you 381 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: are no longer okay at that point. That's just if 382 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: it is not a direct self defense situation, in the 383 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: heat of the moment, you have to them or me. 384 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: You got to ask yourself, Okay, you know what's going 385 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 4: on here, and and I think that's legit for our 386 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: you know, DA to say, hey, I get it. 387 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: That's that's basically right. 388 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 9: That's exactly where the DA's office is coming from, because 389 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 9: what we've learned from the Menindez side of the story 390 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 9: is they're really hyping up the allegations that they were 391 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 9: sexually abused by their father, that this was an abusive household, 392 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 9: and that their mother knew about it, and that's how 393 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 9: they claim justification. That is their self defense argument. They 394 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 9: feared for their own lives if they did not do this. 395 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 9: So that has gotten to people. There are a lot 396 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 9: of people are saying, yeah, this is this seems legit. 397 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 9: It's been thirty five years in prison, let's reconsider this 398 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 9: and maybe let them go free. But what the prosecutor's 399 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 9: office is arguing is that the Meninna's brothers have not 400 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 9: shown that they understand the severity or the depravity of 401 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 9: their crime. So while the Meninna's brothers have come out 402 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 9: and talked about the abuse they suffered, they've talked about 403 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 9: the you know, so called good things they've done in prison, 404 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 9: they haven't come out and said, man, we did a 405 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 9: really bad thing back then, and I think if they 406 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 9: had done that, they might be seeing a different approach 407 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 9: from the DA's office. Handle has said this before as 408 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 9: an attorney off and what the judge looking at is 409 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 9: remorse and it's hard. As a matter of fact, I 410 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 9: think it's the top on the list before you could 411 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 9: even move forward. And you know that's going to be 412 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 9: a concern throughout the entirety of this. And I will 413 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 9: tell you something. You want me on my best behavior, yeah, 414 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 9: you could lock me up. I got nowhere to go. 415 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: I will you know if that means getting a better 416 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: meal or being left alone. 417 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: So, although I think it's helpful to know when people 418 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: are good in prison, I think you'd be good in 419 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: a prison gang. That's always tell people. 420 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 4: People always go, you know, because I'm a half breed, 421 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: Because I'm a half breed. 422 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: That was what I was. Just let me be clear. 423 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: No, because I'm a half breed, people always say, well, 424 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: you know, because I identify as Latino, not that I don't 425 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: love my mom. I love my mom and I love 426 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: the European side of my family, but that's how I identify. 427 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 4: And so my rule is, if you were in prison, 428 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: what gang would you be in? That's who you are? Oh, 429 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: I think I would be left alone. 430 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 9: I don't think anyone would like me in prison, because 431 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 9: one I would be a snitch. 432 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: Right right off. 433 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: That's good to wow. I'm listening for info and I'm 434 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: giving it for you. 435 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you'd be dead, walking, dead man walking. 436 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's not lasting. 437 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: No man snitches against stitches, You're dead. Mister Michael Monks, 438 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: thanks for coming. Always a players inreciate the update among 439 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: Menendez brothers. I have some thoughts on this when we return. 440 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 4: Neil Savedra. John Cobelt is out today. 441 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 442 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 6: six forty. 443 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: All right, so the Menendez brothers, there was a hearing 444 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: today to decide whether to proceed with the resentencing hearing. 445 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: Still much more that needs to be known about that. 446 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: The the thoughts I have is regardless of what happens 447 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: to you, and I think that is important. I think 448 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: things that happened to you can. 449 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Drive you to a reaction. 450 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: I was taught a long time ago that life is 451 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: ten percent what happens to you, ninety percent how you 452 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: react to it. And that how you react to things 453 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: or what's going to set you down whatever path you're 454 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: going on. 455 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: Now. 456 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: Our system is basically made up of three parts. I mean, 457 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: these are the reasons you go to jail for rehabilitation, 458 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: which is more rare than I'd like it to be punishment, 459 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: or to protect society or the combination. Right when you're 460 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: looking at the Mendendez brother's story and I remember it 461 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: here on the station, I remember listening to John and 462 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: Kenn at the time and all of that, hearing these 463 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: stories unfold, is what it would take, the abuse, whatever 464 00:25:51,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: it is, to make you shoot your parents that way. 465 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: And I don't know, hope to never know my father 466 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: has passed, my beloved mom still kicking, eighty seven strong 467 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 4: as an ox, and I. 468 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: Don't know. 469 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 4: I also don't know how I would feel afterwards. Would 470 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: there be a euphoria, would there be the mixed feelings 471 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: being torn apart? 472 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 473 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 4: But what I do know, I don't think the Menendez 474 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: brothers are rehabilitated because I think they're damaged. Sad if 475 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: all those stories are true, very sad that they were 476 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 4: damaged by their parents. 477 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Do I care for their parents? Knowing that no. 478 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 4: Better to have this planet without you if that's who 479 00:26:52,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: they are. But maybe maybe the damage is it's just done. 480 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 4: It's just done. Protect society, so rehabilitate. I don't think 481 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: they can be rehabilitated because I think they're broken. Punishment 482 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: is a question because you have to say, well, you know, 483 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: are they done being punished for it? I don't know 484 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 4: how long should you be in jail if you shoot 485 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: your parents' face off. There was a time where you 486 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: would have gone up against the you know, shooting brigade, 487 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: and you'd be done. Protect society is the one that 488 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: we have to look at, like are we are we 489 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 4: in danger by them? And I got to tell you 490 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 4: some people may say, no, I don't know if you're 491 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 4: that broken, I would air on the side of keeping 492 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: you in prison. You did a very heinous thing, and 493 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: as I talked about with our very own Michael Monks 494 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: moments ago, I've not seen remorse is a matter of fact. 495 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: All the stuff that they did afterwards is bizarre. But again, 496 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 4: and all these are allegations, I know, but never been 497 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: raped by family members, never had a mom turn or 498 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 4: eye or even participate or any of those things. 499 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know what that would be like. 500 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: I hope you don't know, but ultimately I don't think 501 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: they have been rehabilitated. 502 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: The punishment. I don't really. 503 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: Care in this circumstance if they've been good in prison. 504 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: I think it's much harder to be bad in prison 505 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: than people think. So that's not always I'd like to 506 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: see people be that way, but that's not always some 507 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: sort of great Yeah, okay, I haven't murdered anybody. Well 508 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: I've been in prison. Well it's really impressive. You've been 509 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: in solitaire for all that time. You haven't murdered anybody. 510 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: Good on you, and then protect society. I don't know 511 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: if we're protected by them. If they're at the point 512 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: of being that broken to kill your parents in that way, you. 513 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: Know, Uh, I don't know that we would be safe. Well, 514 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing. 515 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: I am much happier that we have La County District 516 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: Attorney Nathan Hackman sitting in that seat to make these 517 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: decisions than we were with the wing nut that was 518 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: in that seat warming it prior Nil Savedra John is out. Uh, 519 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: we come back. LA City Council pulling funding, exploring the 520 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: possibility of pulling funding from a homeless agency, all kinds 521 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: of a mess. Monica Rodriguez Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez from the 522 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: seventh District is going to join us because she's the 523 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: one that I first heard complaining and sounding the alarm 524 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: last year or maybe even earlier, and now people are 525 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: jumping on board with this at city Hall. So we'll 526 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: talk to her when we come back. 527 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Go nowhere. 528 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: Let's uh, oh, it's top of the hour. 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