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Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis.

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Speaker 2: The stories about Rolling Stones founding guitar player Brian Jones

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Speaker 2: are insane. He was a serial abuser of women. He

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Speaker 2: bragged of sleeping with sixty four women in nineteen days,

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Speaker 2: fathering and estimated, though precisely unknown, six illegitimate children. He

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Speaker 2: dressed in full Nazi regalia, a solid decade before the

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Speaker 2: punk movement and only fifteen years removed from World War Two.

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Speaker 2: He sacrificed goats. He was the electric kool Aid acid

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Speaker 2: testing ground. He was Bob Dylan's and Jimmy Hendrix's favorite

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Speaker 2: guitar player, and he was in part, if not almost entirely,

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Speaker 2: responsible for young London's obsession with the Blues. He was

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Speaker 2: also paranoid, wildly insecure, and an incredibly weak man, all

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Speaker 2: traits that would eventually lead to his downfall, but no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it for a moment there. Brian Jones made

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Speaker 2: great music. That music you heard at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show that wasn't great music. That was a preset

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Speaker 2: loop for my mellotron called slow Waltz Celeste Low MK one.

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Speaker 2: I played you that loop because I can't afford the

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Speaker 2: rights to get back by the Beatles, and why would

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Speaker 2: I play you that specific slice of preston Esque Jojo Fire?

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Speaker 3: Could I afford it?

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Speaker 2: Because that was the number one song in America on

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Speaker 2: July third, nineteen sixty nine, And that was the day

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Speaker 2: that Brian Jones decided to go for a swim in

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Speaker 2: Winnie the Pooh's Pool and never came back. On this episode,

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Speaker 2: slow Waltz seems Celeste Jojo Fire, Winnie the Pooh's Pool

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Speaker 2: and Brian Jones, I'm Jake Brennan and this is disgrace slam.

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Speaker 3: The crowd was uneasy.

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Speaker 2: The clientele on July eleventh, nineteen sixty two, at the

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Speaker 2: dimly lit Marquee Club in London's West End was strictly

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Speaker 2: trad goateed, bespectacled, diehard jazz and blues officionados who took

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Speaker 2: about R and B. The more bourgeois among them sipped

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Speaker 2: matouse and look down their noses at the clocked out

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Speaker 2: laborers pulling on Pilsner's. The one thing they all had

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Speaker 2: in common was a curiosity about this evening's act. A

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Speaker 2: scruffy mishmash of art school kids and middle class wise acres,

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Speaker 2: billing themselves as the Rolling Stones, who were waiting out

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Speaker 2: their pre first show jitters in the back room while

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Speaker 2: being aired out by the club's promoter, Brian Jones. The

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Speaker 2: group's leader, didn't understand what the argument was all about.

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Speaker 2: Mick was just the singer. No one was going to

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Speaker 2: be paying attention to him anyway. The audience was there

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Speaker 2: to see the band, to hear Brian's bottleneck slide slip

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Speaker 2: down the neck of his harmony stratotone, not to watch

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Speaker 2: the singer move the songs from the verses to the choruses. Besides,

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Speaker 2: Brian would look good, he always did. The promoter was

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Speaker 2: demanding the band change into more suitable attire, something matching,

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Speaker 2: like a proper group, like those nice boys from Liverpool,

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Speaker 2: the Beatles. But the Stones weren't having it, eskewing the

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Speaker 2: safe matching stage attire for their street clothes, tight gaucho

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Speaker 2: trousers tapered at the ankles, ties optional, cuban heeled boots

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Speaker 2: and crew collared swede jackets that died at the hips,

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Speaker 2: time and went a long way in contrasting the Stones

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Speaker 2: with the Beatles. These guys didn't want to hold your

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Speaker 2: hand or let you drive their car. They wanted to

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Speaker 2: get your daughter pregnant and steal your vespa. The Rolling

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Speaker 2: Stones were a serious R and B group, at least

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Speaker 2: in Brian's mind, even though they yet to play a show.

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Speaker 2: The drummer Charlie he could swing and plus he had

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Speaker 2: And the bass player Bill he could play, but more important,

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Speaker 2: Bill had a vox amp with two inputs, which meant

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Speaker 2: Brian could use it too. And the young second guitarist, Keith.

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Speaker 2: He was a wild card, but Brian knew there was

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Speaker 2: something there, and whatever it was, it scared Brian. Regardless,

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Speaker 2: Keith was worth keeping around. He was just nineteen years old,

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Speaker 2: timid yet brimming with fuck all confidence and obsessed with

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Speaker 2: Chuck Berry. The piano player stew with the heavy left

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Speaker 2: if he looked more like he was about to unload

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Speaker 2: unload Johnny Johnson riffs from a piece. His playing made

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Speaker 2: up for his looks but the singer Mick, the verdict

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Speaker 2: was still out. He claimed he was in the Little Walter,

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Speaker 3: And he was good.

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Speaker 2: Looking in a way that annoyed Brian. Mick made little effort.

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Speaker 2: He rolled out of bed and threw on whatever clothes

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Speaker 2: but still he commanded the attention of everyone. Brian suspected

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Speaker 2: So Brian committed to keeping making the band only until

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Speaker 2: a better, less threatening option presented itself together. Even in

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Speaker 2: those early days when they played, it just worked, and

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Speaker 2: Brian Jones's Rolling Stones had something. It wasn't songs, because

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Speaker 2: they couldn't write a song to save their lives, not

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Speaker 2: McDowell or Bo Didley tune, whatever room they were in

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Speaker 3: Their appeal was intense.

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Speaker 2: They seemed less like a group and more like a

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Speaker 2: gang six brothers clearly pulling on the same rope in

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Speaker 2: weak link among them. On this night, the night of

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Speaker 2: their first ever performance at the Marquee Club, they took

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Speaker 2: the stage in their street clothes as they'd wanted. The

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Speaker 2: Stones with barely containable contempt, standing on stage, tuning their

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Speaker 2: Pulling on cigarettes to calm their nerves, they steeled themselves

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Speaker 3: Into Little Willy Littlefield's Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Stu banged out the intro and sixteenth notes on his piano,

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Speaker 2: and the band roared out of the station straight ahead

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Speaker 2: with power like a locomotive, all six members working their

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Speaker 2: bubbling with their chests to keep the train room, and

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Speaker 2: the crowd started booing loudly. With the exception of a

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Speaker 2: small group of Mods who muscled their way into the

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Speaker 2: Marquee Club regulars. This band hit the Mods in their

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Speaker 2: sweet spot with high energy, black music from the American South,

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Speaker 2: and the Rolling Stones, despite their scruffy, irreverent look had

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Speaker 2: the stylish Mods gripped the Mods with their immaculate attire

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Speaker 2: and perfectly quaffed hair. The regulatory quarter inch over the

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Speaker 2: as an extra affront to the Marquee Club regulars. What

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Speaker 2: So they let the Mods and the Stones know about it,

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Speaker 2: and the booze continued louder. It made it near impossible

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Speaker 2: attacked the Marquees regulars, violently punching, kicking and spitting. For

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Speaker 2: a moment, mayhem overtook the club, but Brian and the

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Speaker 2: and the Rolling Stones took their first steps toward becoming

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Speaker 2: England's newest hit makers. It didn't take long the Rolling

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Speaker 2: Stones were off. Their debut album went to number one

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Speaker 2: nine studio albums released throughout the sixties would all cracked

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Speaker 2: the top five. The early albums rose to the top

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Speaker 2: American blues musicians. But in no time Mick Jagger and

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Speaker 2: Keith Richards realized that to make real money they needed

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Speaker 2: to learn how to write their own songs. In the beginning,

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Speaker 2: Brian tried his hand at writing two, but he was

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Speaker 2: quickly discouraged by his lack of lyrical prowess. Amongst the

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Speaker 2: squalor of their cold water flat at Edith Grove were

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Speaker 2: the garbage piled high and the rats roamed freely. Mick

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Speaker 2: and Keith busied themselves with learning how to write. Brian

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Speaker 2: showed little interest. Why did he need to write songs

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Speaker 2: for the Stones? He invented the Stones. With his growing

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Speaker 2: fame and ego he hit the town. His drinking and

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Speaker 2: depending on how you counted them, for illegitimate children from

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Speaker 2: four different women by this point, as well as dealing

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Speaker 2: beat savagely whenever she'd get out of line. With little

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Speaker 2: that drove Mick and Keith mad. The Last Time was

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Speaker 2: the third Stone single to go to number one on

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Speaker 2: the UK charts, but more importantly, it was the first

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Speaker 2: Suddenly there was no longer any need to split the rent.

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Speaker 2: Making Keith were happy to bail on Brian and Edith Grove. Brian,

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Speaker 2: feeling marginalized by the songwriting success of Making, Keith, focused

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Speaker 2: on his new twin obsessions getting wasted in the model

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Speaker 2: Anita Pallenberg. However, his relationship with Anita wouldn't last. By

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Speaker 2: of nineteen sixty seven, Brian was convinced Keith and Anita

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Speaker 2: Anita showed a casual openness with Keith. Brian's heart sank,

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Speaker 2: his insecurity sword, his paranoia stung. Wandering through the Moroccan bazaar,

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Speaker 2: Brian pulled a handful of mandres from his trousers pocket

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Speaker 2: The house in a near paralytic state, while Anita fell

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Speaker 2: for Keith hard. Some days later, Brian emerged from his

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Speaker 2: for two berber horse When they arrived, there were more

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Speaker 2: than Brian could have bargained for him, exotic, dark skinned,

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Speaker 3: Long thick black hair spilled out.

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Speaker 2: Over their shoulders and down their backs, and, of course,

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Speaker 2: the men away from diseased prostitutes, their curvy, full bodies

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Speaker 2: were covered in tattoos. The similar body art on both

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Speaker 2: women gave Brian, in his LSD. Hayes illusion that he

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Speaker 2: was sleeping with twins, and the enchanting ink was a

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Speaker 2: Spidery fingers with bedazzled stone chokers tied around their necks

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Speaker 2: in gold colored bangles, running up both sets of wrists

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Speaker 2: that jangled loudly as the two women took turns riding Brian,

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Speaker 2: who was in his sweet spot, too high to come

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Speaker 2: The green eyed ones slithered on top of him and

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Speaker 2: Got the hang of copping heroin is everywhere. Went to

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Speaker 2: Is Love with the beatles. Alan Klin invites us to

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Speaker 2: her to ignore making keys calls. Can't ta cruise is beautiful,

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Speaker 2: It's like a Polanski film. We stopped for a while

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Speaker 2: down to jukea players who are ridiculously good. I tried

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Speaker 2: I meet two hundredge Italian girls, so I tried to

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Speaker 2: I bump into some guy from Dartford. WO says he's

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Speaker 2: I go to London. The band is surprised to see me.

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Speaker 2: The music they're working on is a shit Pepper's repot.

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Speaker 2: I passed out and dream about Elmore James. When I

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Speaker 2: I tell him making go fuck Keith. I don't know

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Speaker 2: pleaded guilty.

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Speaker 3: Judge has mercy. He fined fifty pounds.

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Speaker 2: Attend the Rock and Roll Circus filming and get lost

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Speaker 2: my way out. I watched John Lennon's New girl Friend

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Speaker 2: at Christopher Robbinson's home in the country. I get my drugs,

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Speaker 2: but barely making new music. Back here without a band,

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Speaker 2: I no longer know who I am, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like a ghost of a total stranger. Yan's guest stared

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Speaker 2: go for a swim.

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Speaker 3: You're only as good as your weakest link.

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Speaker 2: Mother nature knows this, which is why fratricide exists. Fratricide,

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Speaker 2: when one sibling kills another, is a characteristic of life

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Speaker 2: in the wild. Hyenas, sharks, eagles all practice fratricide as

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Speaker 2: a way of weeding out the weakest among them. It's

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Speaker 2: Darwinian and crucial to the survival of some species, and

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Speaker 2: this is what happened with the Rolling Stones. Brian Jones

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Speaker 2: was the weak link. He couldn't write songs, he couldn't

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Speaker 2: together to contribute to the growth of the band, to

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Speaker 2: If the Rolling Stones it kept Brian around back in

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Speaker 2: Would classic records like Sticky Fingers Exile on Main Street

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Speaker 2: or Some Girls Ever have been made? And would Brian

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Speaker 2: Jones have been able to contribute to the Rolling Stones

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties, nineties and beyond touring stadiums, playing

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Speaker 2: More likely than not, Brian's behavior would have caught up

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Speaker 2: to and handcuff the group, halting their ascent to world's

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Speaker 2: greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, back in

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Speaker 2: the early days of Edith Grove were brothers, but as

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Speaker 2: they evolved from shodoby pub band into mold shattering rock stars.

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Speaker 2: To sustain their status in the pecking order of pop stardom,

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Speaker 2: to survive, the weakest among them, Brian Jones had to go,

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Speaker 2: so that's what happened. Brian was ousted from the band

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Speaker 2: by his rock and roll animal brothers, Micking Keith, the

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Speaker 2: stronger of the brood, who'd seized control to survive, and

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Speaker 2: Brian's survival without the identity that being in the Rolling

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Speaker 2: Stones had allowed him would be short lived. He'd created

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Speaker 2: the band, so he'd taken his place at it. For granted,

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Speaker 2: without being a rolling Stone, there wasn't much to live

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Speaker 2: for to hang out on your own with no direction

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Speaker 2: home like a complete unknown, but decidedly not like a

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Speaker 2: rolling Stone. That night, after recounting his epic flame out

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Speaker 2: to his cotch for firm guests, Brian went for a

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Speaker 2: swim in his pool and he never came back. He

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Speaker 2: was found shortly after by his guest Janet Lawson, dead

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Speaker 2: as a stone at the bottom of the pool, drowned.

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Speaker 2: There was a rumor about Brian Jones' death. I think

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Speaker 2: goes like this. Brian's living handyman and Frank Thoroughgood was

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Speaker 2: taking advantage of Brian overstaying his welcome, milking the job

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Speaker 2: for more than it was worth, using his time away

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Speaker 2: from home while working on Brian's estate to party and

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Speaker 2: cheat on his wife with the local girls. And Brian

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Speaker 2: wanted him gone, but was of course too weak to

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Speaker 2: get him to go away, and Frank believed Brian owed

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Speaker 2: him money. Besides, the job wasn't done, so Frank wasn't

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Speaker 2: going anywhere. Fucked that little moon faced junkie cherub. That night,

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Speaker 2: after dinner, Frank and Janet hung by the pool while

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Speaker 2: Brian swam. Janet left Brian and Frank to go inside

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Speaker 2: to grab it inhaleer for Brian, and before she could return,

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Speaker 2: minutes later, Frank was in her face inside the house,

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Speaker 2: shaking and yammering on about how something had happened to Brian.

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Speaker 2: Janet ran for the pool, Frank did not. Janet dove

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Speaker 2: into the pool to pull what looked like a dead

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Speaker 2: stone from the bottom. Frank stood by idly. Janet pulled

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Speaker 2: Brian from the pool by herself. She tried reviving him

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Speaker 2: and Frank did nothing. Call the damn police, Janet shouted,

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Speaker 2: Frank stood still. Janet ran to make the call herself.

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Speaker 2: Authorities arrived shortly after, but it was too late and

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Speaker 2: Brian Jones was dead. The official cause of death death

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Speaker 2: by misadventure. Janet Losson in recent years claimed that she

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Speaker 2: believed an altercation between Frank and Brian took place while

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Speaker 2: she'd gone to grab Brian's in hailer, and that Frank,

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Speaker 2: either unintentionally or on purpose, did something to cause Brian

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Speaker 2: to drown, and, allegedly, years later, on his deathbed, Frank

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Speaker 2: Thoroughgood confessed to Tom Keylock, the Rolling Stone chauffeur, the following

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Speaker 2: it was me, I did Brian do.

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Speaker 3: I believe this? Maybe? Does it matter?

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Speaker 2: Not really whether it was drowning or murder, one way

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Speaker 2: or the other. Brian Jones died because he was weak.

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Speaker 2: Either he was too weak to fend off his attacker

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Speaker 2: or two weak to stay sober enough to not drowned

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Speaker 2: in six feet of water, or two weeks to live

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Speaker 2: life without abusing substances and women, behavior that led to

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Speaker 2: being alienated from his band, his friends, and his loved ones,

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Speaker 2: who had they been in his life, likely would have

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Speaker 2: been able.

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Speaker 3: To keep him upright and alive.

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Speaker 2: Anyway you cut it, Brian Jones was responsible for the

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Speaker 2: demise of Brian Jones, which is a shame and some

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Speaker 2: would say a disgrace.

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