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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: we come. Hi, Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Rashaan McDonald, and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: I think today is that there's no perfect time to

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Speaker 1: and start blocking your dreams. That's what this show is putting.

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Speaker 1: It's just a purpose of why I do this show

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Speaker 1: to stop you from stopping yourself. When you wake up

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Speaker 1: what I talk about on this show money making conversation,

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Speaker 1: because for you, success may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and start living

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Speaker 1: your own, whatever that may be. People always talk about

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Speaker 1: their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, leave

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Speaker 1: were discussing all this overcoming the arts and everything. My

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Speaker 1: guests on the show today are Aeron Carolina, He'd beat

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Speaker 1: life threatening disease to start Hollywood Productions, Life, The Black Widow,

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Speaker 1: and then my other guests, Robert Foster. It's time to

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Speaker 1: meet the creator of the Shop Makers League. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: March Madness. Now what perfect time to interview this brother,

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Speaker 1: a virtual basketball skills challenged platform. Let's get it all

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Speaker 1: rolling with money making conversation. My guests, is Aaron Carolina,

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Speaker 1: just like the state. He was born and raised in

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Speaker 1: All it in Texas, just like the state. From singing

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Speaker 1: Not long after that, he said his sights on moving

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Speaker 1: worked on such projects as The Black Widow, The Cleaning Lady,

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Speaker 1: with the money Making Conversations masterclass. Mister Aaron Carolina, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing, my friend, I'm blessed. I'm blessed about yourself.

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Speaker 1: When you say you're blessed, you know I within your bio.

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Speaker 1: It's just because life threatening disease. Are you willing to

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Speaker 1: talk about that? Of course, of course that's my testimony.

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Speaker 1: Give us all right. So when I was about a nineteen,

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Speaker 1: I was about to go to college to play seventeen

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Speaker 1: I gained sixty pounds in five days. Okay, okay, when

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Speaker 1: ask you, So, what was the disease nephrotic nephrotic syndrome.

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Speaker 1: It's called minimal change disease. Minimal change disease. Now, lose

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Speaker 1: Aaron Carolina. He's based out of if we're born from Olton, Texas. Now, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: teenager roles. But you still got that ten year window

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Speaker 1: of opportunities that you can go into. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: explaining to everybody what happens is when you go to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to It's about the youth. Hollywood

429
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Speaker 1: is all about the youth, and so as you're younger,

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Speaker 1: you can play more opportunities. But as you get older,

431
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Speaker 1: they start character acting you, they start putting you when

432
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Speaker 1: you can be a police officer, you can be a teacher,

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Speaker 1: you could be an executive, you could be working in

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Speaker 1: the office and stuff like that. But when you're young,

435
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Speaker 1: you know you can do anything. You can be high school, college,

436
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Speaker 1: you can be at parties, all those things. So it's

437
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Speaker 1: a lot more opportunities. So when you're thirty, you want

438
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Speaker 1: to make sure that you know you can you can

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Speaker 1: least go ten years beneath your real age. And that's

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Speaker 1: where you're sitting there right there, so you're playing a

441
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Speaker 1: nice little range. You look good, stand in shape, so

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Speaker 1: just setting to take before my listener continue airing U. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it took me about three or four years before I

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Speaker 1: was able to even to start getting roles. And after

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Speaker 1: obviously going here, everybody out here in la is in

446
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Speaker 1: the shape. Everybody is. There's gyms everywhere, there's everybody's eating healthy.

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Speaker 1: So that's another way to help keep looking youthful. When

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Speaker 1: I got out of here, so I still had those opportunities,

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Speaker 1: but what they started doing with they started character typing

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Speaker 1: me like, all right, you're going to play a cop

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Speaker 1: and be military, right, you playing detected everything? And I

452
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Speaker 1: was like, yo, when did I become the guy, right

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Speaker 1: but going to raise them the fort worth I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: stop everything. When did I become the guy that would

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Speaker 1: be a cop? But that's just what they saw me,

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Speaker 1: that was the type, and I was playing a cop

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Speaker 1: right a military experience that they would try to utilize

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Speaker 1: a look like clean cut, cut off all the facial

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Speaker 1: hair and just play clean cut. So that's what I was.

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Speaker 1: That kind of got my foot in the door. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of these roles, most of the roles that

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Speaker 1: I've been booking as far as that have been pretty

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Speaker 1: big have been and just like that uniform roles. But

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Speaker 1: I was blessed to get some where they started, um

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Speaker 1: allowing me to step outside of that and be more

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Speaker 1: more of a ladies man and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: But it took a while. They tried to characterize, characterize

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Speaker 1: me and put me in a in a genre right away,

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Speaker 1: that's what they do. What was the first role? Did

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Speaker 1: you went? Yeah? Did you got did when you when

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Speaker 1: you went? Yeah? Out here in la or just in

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Speaker 1: general and la la in la Uh? The first role

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Speaker 1: that I booked, really, I apologize. I apologize. Let's let

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Speaker 1: the first role in general and then we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the first opportunity in general, when you were yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can do this. The first role I booked was

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Speaker 1: for a Marvel show called Gifted. I booked it in

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Speaker 1: Texas and it was a security guard. I booked the

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Speaker 1: role as a security guard and that was the first

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, they wanted me for multiple days.

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Speaker 1: It was the first and the executive as a director,

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Speaker 1: everybody loved it. It It was great. Um. That's when I realized,

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Speaker 1: and you get them. You get there on set, they

484
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Speaker 1: know your name, you got your wardrobe, you got your honeywagon.

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Speaker 1: On set up, They're like, yo, what do you want

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Speaker 1: for breakfast? If you want lobster that I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: y'all got lobster in the morning? I said, what else

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Speaker 1: do you have? What do you want hanging on menu?

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Speaker 1: It's whatever you want. That's like, oh, I can do

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Speaker 1: this for a living. I can do this for life. Um.

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Speaker 1: And after that more roles came out of here. The

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Speaker 1: first role that kind of really had me going, uh,

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Speaker 1: what was it? Oh? No, none, maybe not out here?

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Speaker 1: Uh Tyler Perry's role. Uh. Getting a role for Tyler

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Speaker 1: Perry was I was like, I can do this for

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Speaker 1: I could do this long term. I saw what it took.

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Speaker 1: I saw there the years of preparation and working and

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Speaker 1: going to classes and stuff got me to a point

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Speaker 1: where I can handle the pressure. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I like, I like this. I want to keep doing this.

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Speaker 1: The role you currently doing sisters are a previo role.

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Speaker 1: It was Tyler Perry. It was a role that I

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Speaker 1: did for sisters, the role I did for sisters. It

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Speaker 1: was that role that kind of got me like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do this long term.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was that that was something else.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of reaffirming, Uh, doing this job. You

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Speaker 1: get so many nose When you get those yeses, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the right track. Well it's like it really is. Man.

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Speaker 1: I tell people that in life you get a lot

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Speaker 1: of those. But in Hollywood, you walk in the room,

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Speaker 1: you don't know why they what they're looking for. You know,

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Speaker 1: they they you know. It's really the most um frustrating business,

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Speaker 1: but it's the most exciting business once you start getting success.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes when you start getting success, you don't really

516
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Speaker 1: know why they they they you're getting it until they

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Speaker 1: start asking for you by name. Then you understand that

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Speaker 1: a certain type of person recognizes you for your time. Now,

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Speaker 1: being a former athlete, that's competition. Now you in this

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Speaker 1: world as an actor, that's competition. Do you are you

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Speaker 1: able to marry the two existence that really get a

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Speaker 1: clear understanding what you're capable of doing? Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: what I feel like what I'm capable of doing. The

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Speaker 1: sky's a limit. As an athlete, I'm competitive and I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to work hard no matter the circumstances, regardless of

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Speaker 1: my condition, I'm going to work hard. And in this industry,

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Speaker 1: there is no quit It's not the sprint, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a marathon. It's about those who are willing to endure

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Speaker 1: for the longest. And if you have what it takes,

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Speaker 1: you're going to work hard. You're coachable, and you're in there,

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Speaker 1: and you're in there for the long haul. People eventually

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Speaker 1: see the talent and skill that you have and then

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Speaker 1: they will start requesting you, but they give you bits

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Speaker 1: and pieces. Not everybody comes in here and just start

535
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Speaker 1: hitting home runs right away. You know, you start taking

536
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Speaker 1: you taking victories as you get them. And being an athlete,

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Speaker 1: I am okay with doing what needs to be done

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Speaker 1: in order to get those opportunities later on. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting to appreciate you coming on money making

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Speaker 1: comes to his master class. I'm talking to Aaron Carolina. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's out of Arlington, Texas. Um started singing in choir

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Speaker 1: as a child, you know, add devil asthma as a

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Speaker 1: youth homeless, said roughly seventeen, and but that didn't stop

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Speaker 1: him with a life threatening disease that he didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew, very little UH insurance in his life to

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Speaker 1: be able to assist him. Um basically un didn't come

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Speaker 1: from the ideal family, so his support system wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: But that didn't stop him from living his dreams that

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Speaker 1: he's currently living now. As we as we wrap up

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Speaker 1: this interview, Aaron, what would you what would you say

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Speaker 1: to people who are trying to get into this world

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Speaker 1: that you are still growing your brand in what what

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Speaker 1: what setbacks that you were able to overcome that you

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Speaker 1: went that somebody can find relatable that can give them

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Speaker 1: a gem of information that they can help them bypass

556
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Speaker 1: what you did. Moving forward, start becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable,

557
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: take chances on yourself, don't be afraid to fail, and

558
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: actually ask yourself, is this something that you really want

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00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: to do? Anything that you've ever done throughout your whole life,

560
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: any experience, any any kind, anything whatsoever. You can use

561
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: that in this career. But you have to be willing

562
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to take the nose and if you find joy in

563
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: the craft itself, eventually you will reap the benefits of

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: those who are willing to endure. Now, the benefits of

565
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: life is that you're able to tell us your story.

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Speaker 1: The benefits of life is that you know faith plays

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: a major role in your life. You know, especially we

568
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: all know that faith with people comes and goals, and

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Speaker 1: it usually comes when there is not there's discomfort in

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Speaker 1: your life that you can't control. I know I've been there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I'm a church care but LAWD knows.

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00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I understand the value of motivation and self motivation is

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Speaker 1: tied to your faith as you as you as you.

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Speaker 1: What's your future hold for mister Aaron Carolina? UM currently

575
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: right now have an independent feature film that I'm working on.

576
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: We're in post right now. There's a couple of series

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Speaker 1: that I haven't a works right now. UM executive producing,

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00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: U producing and writing. UM. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 1: in one in twenty twenty three months. Are about to

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Speaker 1: be a father. So um, there's just a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: Looking about to do a father, be a father, be

582
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Speaker 1: a father. Okay, you guys live that out there, you

583
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Speaker 1: know what. I know, Father's Day coming up. There wasn't

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Speaker 1: much heat on that father line. It was about to

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Speaker 1: be a father, you know. Yeah, I'm about to be

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Speaker 1: a father, and there's something I'm excited about. You should

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00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: be looking forward to, you should be. Yeah, just trying

588
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: to stay busy, make sure that I'm able to continue

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Speaker 1: building a career for my family and you know, just

590
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Speaker 1: to have something where I can, you know, just continue

591
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: doing what I love. But there's definitely a feature film

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Speaker 1: coming in the project, coming in the works. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's what I got and plenty of other stuff that

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Speaker 1: I'm working on. Congratulations. As we wrapped up this interview,

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Speaker 1: tell everybody how we can reach out to you, stay

596
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Speaker 1: in touch with you. You can reach me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Aaron Carolina Underscore. That's a a Ron Carolina like

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Speaker 1: the State Underscore, Um Facebook, Aaron Carolina Twitter is also

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Speaker 1: Aaron Carolina Underscore as well. Appreciate you, my brother appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming on Money Making Conversations master Class. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: sharing your story is a motivational story. Stoybright uplift the

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Speaker 1: Storebright Hey Man, overcoming the arts. That's all this ship

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Speaker 1: wasn't bout. Talk to you soon in good love Aaron Carolina. Yeah, sir,

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Speaker 1: you two God blessed. Appreciate Don't go anywhere. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class. Money

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Speaker 1: back to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. This is my man.

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Speaker 1: He's on the call today, Robert Foster. He's the father

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Speaker 1: of three daughters and a basketball enthusiast. Growing up, he

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Speaker 1: wouldness many black men around him start successful businesses. That's

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Speaker 1: called mentors. People who you see. It is important because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna share story about growing up who I saw

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Speaker 1: and how they impacted infected me, affected me, and I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even tied to trying to be anything but just

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Speaker 1: a growing up, black kid, But who you see can't

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Speaker 1: impact what you can be. You know. He learned that

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Speaker 1: you can achieve your goal through patients and steady work,

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Speaker 1: which he went to. He also struggled with depression in

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Speaker 1: high school and dealt with rebellious personality that he had,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that now. He's self employed

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Speaker 1: business owners. In two thousand and eight, he created the

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Speaker 1: Shopmaker's Leads. We all know March madness out there, So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna launch something, this is the time of

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Speaker 1: the year to launcher a virtual basketball video competition platform.

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Speaker 1: They offer a fun and skill based experience for players,

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Speaker 1: fans and brands to create, participate in host competition. Please

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Speaker 1: walk with the money Making Conversations masterclass father an entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: and basketball enthusiast Robert Foster. How are you doing, Robert?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man, Thanks for having me and Robert.

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Speaker 1: You know, I tell everybody I can play. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like a fish story. It's like a fish story, Robert.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know I could have fish a foot, law,

636
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Speaker 1: but it was three feet by the time I got home.

637
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, he was battling

638
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: with me. He was battling. He took the pole down.

639
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I brought it up. He took the pole down out

640
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: of reaching the wall, and pull him up. Now I

641
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: say all this because you know you went from being

642
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: a street baller to a tech baller. All right, and

643
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: so now well you were you on the court. Now, well,

644
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: well did you have skills there? Rob? Yeah? I think

645
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I did. You said, I think you see right there? Right?

646
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: So now this is this this, this is what it is.

647
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Right Like I played with some with some pretty high

648
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: level guys. Should give them, give them high level. See

649
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: what you can't do it like that? Rob? See, we

650
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know you, you know, he said. You know, Michael

651
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: Jordan would never say I think I can play basketball,

652
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Lebron James would never say I think and the late

653
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: great Kobe Bryant would never say I think I can

654
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: play basketball. Yeah, well you know so, so I hold on.

655
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: I got to come back with you as a man,

656
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: as a man, as a man, think of as a man,

657
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: think of right, uh huh, as a man, think of

658
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: so should he be? And like I said, I think

659
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I can play basketball pretty good. I'm not I'm not

660
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: a bragging, doocious type of person. Like, there's some people

661
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: out there that can vouch, that can vouch for me,

662
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say him be

663
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: like I was the greatest. But I will tell you this.

664
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: When I played ball, you know, in my era, things

665
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: were very different, and I used to shoot. I could

666
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: easily shoot from half court like no no, no, no

667
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: pushing or throwing. I could just I could just let

668
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: it fly. Only person I saw who did that in

669
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: high school was Dame Lillard Dan Yeah see see but

670
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: see Dame damn younger. So it's a couple of cats. Man.

671
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: We was doing that in Georgia, like that was a

672
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: thing like in Georgia. But before Dame, before Steph Man,

673
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: that was Lou Williams. He was somebody that was doing

674
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: it too. We all come from that same He was

675
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: Team Georgia. I played with Teams Georgia. I play. Now

676
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: we're getting just said Robert, you know saying you mentioned

677
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the name we know sweet okay, sweet see, but even

678
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Sweet Lou, Sweet Lou was was was younger than us.

679
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: But he he he was in that same vein like

680
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: in Georgia, you know, pulling from deep that was a

681
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: thing like before Steph Curry made it popular, like being

682
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: able to pull from half court, you know, being able

683
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: to you know, stretch the defense like that, Like that

684
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: was something we did in george Like that was a

685
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: part of Georgia basketball. We were some flat out shooters

686
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: and not just shooters, like we'll we'll pull it on

687
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: you from deep and then we'll also take it to

688
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: the basket too. Okay. See see, I'm just letting you know.

689
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: We're getting into a good conversation here because we're about

690
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: to get to the shop makers league. See. See, what

691
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: you can't have them is a guy who can't make shots.

692
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Didn't call his his his platform shot makers. See already

693
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: he's telling me I can make the shots with shot

694
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go to the physicality. What's what's your measurement?

695
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Is I taller year? Could you leap six six two

696
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: sixty three on a good day? Yeah? I had see

697
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: my thing with hops like I had. I had hops

698
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: like they would come and go. I could never just

699
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: maintain them like I could always dump. I could always

700
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: catch catch the alley you but like that, I have

701
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: like periods of times where I could go between the eggs,

702
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: but then three months later I couldn't keep it going

703
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: because it just wasn't That wasn't my my that wasn't

704
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: my game. My game was predicated on on really on

705
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: shot making, like that was my thing. Like I could

706
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: shoot it from anywhere with anybody, anybody on me or

707
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: in any space. I could get it off and make it.

708
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wasn't like the fastest guy. I wasn't

709
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: the wasn't the I had a quick first step, but

710
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: you catched me after that first step. I've been there,

711
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm older than you. And in college,

712
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, I went to the University of Houston and

713
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: I graduated with Keim elij One okay, and Clyde Drexel.

714
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: He went to the pros the year before because they

715
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: were because they lost the championship in eighty three. Clyde

716
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: with pro and then next year I Keema lije one.

717
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: He went pro for you know, first pick in the

718
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: draft of Houston Rocket. And so so I was one

719
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: of those guys. I wasn't you, but bore. I had

720
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: the mouth of you though you know what I'm saying.

721
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: I had to I could tell you I was Jordan,

722
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: but I played like the last gaut on the bench.

723
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I deserve to be on

724
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: the team, But now what mean I should be taking

725
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: that shot? You feel me? Yeah? And so I'm having

726
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: fun with you, Robert because of the fact that when

727
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I've talked to entrepreneurs, I'd like for people to know

728
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: what that type of personality, because because when you have

729
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: a dream and you start building that dream out, it's

730
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: tied to a certain level of enthusiasm but also could

731
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: lead to a lot of frustration. You know, so talk

732
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: about you know your your street baller got a game,

733
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: how if from a tech standpoint, did you start making

734
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: that transformation? Did this idea can be have a value

735
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: in the virtual world? Well, so this is what happened,

736
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Uh in twenty nineteen, you know what, I guess, Well,

737
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: you know something may talk about my journey, but like

738
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, I wanted to do street Ball, right,

739
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: So and one was huge and street Ball and you

740
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: know they kind of disappeared. You know that that documentary

741
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: is just came out kind of let everybody know there

742
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: was an incredible documentary. If you have not document any

743
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: one an incredible documentary. But see that's that gap. There

744
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: was a huge gap and I noticed that there was

745
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: a gap there, right, There wasn't. There wasn't like you

746
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: still you had online things, you had you know, badless

747
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: life like they're doing their thing. You had over time

748
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: they're doing their things, and you had all these different

749
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: media pages. But there was this the space that was

750
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: kind of still missing. And with Steph Curry with Dame,

751
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, shooting has now become the new dunking right

752
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: where everybody wanted to be Michael Jordan and Lebron and

753
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and you know, even Kobe to an extent with the

754
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: Duncan Vince Carter, you know, shooting Dame and and and

755
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Steph made it. They let they let it. They made

756
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: the They made the common man feel like they could

757
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: play on that level, right because if you could shoot it,

758
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it down. I can't believe you're gonna

759
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: leave one of the greatest dunkers you from a Georgie right,

760
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: Georgie right? Oh yeah, and I know who you're gonna say,

761
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: Are you gonna leave him out? Huh? It wasn't. It

762
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: wasn't intentional. It wasn't intentional. Actually, man, that's a whole

763
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: other side story. But man, I used to work for

764
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: Coca Cola. And I used to work my store, my

765
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: route Dominique Wilkins. That was that was his Kroger that

766
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: he shot. That was the store that our service for

767
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Coca Cola. And he I see him all the time

768
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: in them, man. I's talked to him a lot. And

769
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: you gonna You're gonna mention Lebron, who is never participated

770
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: in a dark contest, by the way, everybody now, but

771
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: he was known for them in game dumps back you know,

772
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: back in that in that time, in that space he was.

773
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: He was known for putting one on your head. But

774
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: I would taste the problem. You're keeping up though, man,

775
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm hitting you low, You're standing straight up.

776
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: I try to cross you your block my shot. You're

777
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: pretty good, Robert, You're pretty good now. You're pretty good now? Yeah, yeah,

778
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just having fun, man, just having fun.

779
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: We're talking my language now, we're talking basketball. What everybody

780
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: need to know. And then so so when you when

781
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: you have to when in eighteen you had this idea

782
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: and like m one had dropped off the map, and

783
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: now there's a there's a market out there, there's a

784
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: need out there, there's a need for something that's out out,

785
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: outsourced beyond just basic basketball. What idea come from? So?

786
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: So what happened? You know, I again shooting, that's my thing,

787
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: right and shooting had become you know, a premium around

788
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: around basketball period. UM, So I reached out. I made

789
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: a cold call to hoop it up three on three,

790
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: which was you know a tour tour base three on

791
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: three tournament that had grew in the US, like I

792
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: played in it when I was a kid. Um. They

793
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: used to come to the Fort and County Stadium, you

794
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: know the old Turner Field. They used to come there

795
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: and take over and fill it with courts and it'd

796
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: be sponsored by Slim Jim gatorade m We won one year.

797
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: I think I was like fifteen or sixteen UM the

798
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: three on three tournament. But I made a cold call,

799
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: looked them up, made a cold call, ended up getting

800
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: in touch with the CEO, Dan Dan. I said, look at,

801
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I want to learn your business model. I want to

802
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: do what you did with the three on three, but

803
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: I want to do it with a shooting competition. I

804
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: don't want to do a three point shootout, but I

805
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: want to do this. I want to travel city to

806
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: city and find the best shooters in every state and

807
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: then at the end, I want to bring them all

808
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: together and do like a finale and crown like the

809
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: number one shooter in the country and you know, regardless

810
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of age. And he was like he loved it. He

811
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, yeah, you know again twenty nineteen.

812
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: Rolling into twenty twenty, he's like, hey man, yeah, we're

813
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna kick our tour off, and may you know you

814
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: welcome to come. I'm gonna senior to tour dates. You

815
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: welcome to come. He's like, come to the first five dates.

816
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: He was like, after the first five dates, He's like,

817
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: is this way? Says He's gonna give me a court.

818
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna give you a court at each

819
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: of our first five tour stops. He was like, um,

820
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: you can. You can run your competition, you know, test

821
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: it out. He's like, you know, I'll help you out

822
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: some things, show you how we how we run things operationally,

823
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. He was like, you know,

824
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: you just got to bring yourself there. If you can

825
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: get yourself there, I'll give you what you need while

826
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: we're there, giving you a court, giving you, you know,

827
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: grailing and maybe even get you know, give me some

828
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: staff members to help you out. He's like, that's no problem.

829
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: But he was like he was like, no, I'm more

830
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: than willing to help. So during the time, he was

831
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: going through an acquisition, so Kevin Garnett's company, the Big

832
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: Ticket they ended up buying who put up three on three,

833
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: So they were they were at like the last stage

834
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: of an acquisition. So Dan was still on board running

835
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: the company, but he was about to be out. Ye

836
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: about he talking to you, but he really not talking

837
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: long term to you? Well, yeah, no, he talked. No,

838
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: he told me everything he talked, he put it. He

839
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: put it all up front. He was like, he's like,

840
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. He's like, you know, I

841
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: can show you the business model. He was like he

842
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: thinks what I'm doing. He's like, you know, it sounds

843
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: like it's Bible. He was like, but the best way

844
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: to test it is to get out there and do

845
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: it right. So again this was like maybe this was

846
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen. The first time we talked was

847
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe in December. We talked again in February when he

848
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: sent me to tour dates because the tour dates started

849
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: started and were talking about twenty February. Right now, it's

850
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty February. So I'm back in Atlanta. I'm going

851
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: to come back to Atlanta and make Atlanta my home base.

852
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: The name of the company at the time was called

853
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: the Do or Die Tournament. Uh. And during that time,

854
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm getting ready. I'm hyped. So I'm

855
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: trying to think of all these different ideas that I

856
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: can that once I, once I get out there, how

857
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: can I capitalize from the traction. And then COVID happens.

858
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: You know, COVID happens, and I had had this idea

859
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: of a video submission shot. Let's talk about what happening though,

860
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: because it's all you know, you you gather momentum, you

861
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: got friends, you tell everybody's going to happen. Yeah, and

862
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: then COVID hit. Where were you at emotionally? And you know,

863
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: because we didn't all know it would last that long?

864
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: We thought it Oh no, no, that I was like

865
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I knew it was like I thought it was gonna

866
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: be a week right right, Yeah, And so I don't

867
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: want to miss that moment from you right there, because

868
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: at least to frustration as a not for new it

869
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: can we talk about to being an entrepreneur right because

870
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: you put your time in you know, you probably blocked

871
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: off some dates you saw you're traveling set up, and

872
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this is getting in the way

873
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: of your dream. Tell us about that emotional moment and

874
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: that and that big pump in the break moment for

875
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: you and your brain. Um, So once I once, I

876
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: you know, like everybody else, once you grab a hole

877
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: to what COVID it actually is and how how it's

878
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: affecting everything and how it's changing things. Um, I'm a

879
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: very I'm very resilient man. I don't know, I don't

880
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where I get it from. I do

881
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: know I've been through a lot of different things in

882
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: my life, but I have a real I'm like a

883
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: basketball man. You throw me up and I land, I'm

884
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna bounce right back. Okay, cool thought that thought. I

885
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: won't go to break when I come back from the break.

886
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we don't want to

887
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Speaker 1: interrupt the story of talking to Robert Foster. You know,

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Speaker 1: shop Makers, that's a virtual game, a visit basketball game,

889
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Speaker 1: and that's why we're having fun talking about his basketball

890
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: skills because he's taking his basketball skills and from a

891
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: game he love, and and he's become an entrepren and

892
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: launching something during March Madness. A virtual video game is

893
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: being done by a black man. Were right back, Robert Foster.

894
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915
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: kind of you know, shut down and all the all,

916
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: and especially like towart like maybe month three, and it

917
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: was really real. It was like, oh, you know what,

918
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: the world is really shut down. It's like this probably

919
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: isn't gonna change for a while. Um My, my psyche

920
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: instantly was like, you know, okay, well let's prepare as

921
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: much as we can, right, Let's let's get as prepared

922
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: as we possibly can because when the world does come

923
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: back to normal, you need to be ready to go.

924
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: Like you can't just you can't just let this go.

925
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in and if I failed, I'd

926
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: rather fail. I need to know for myself that I failed,

927
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna let somebody else or let some

928
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: circumstance tell me that I failed, Like I have to

929
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: actually had to actually put together the competition, put together

930
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: the tour, or put together the platform, and then it

931
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: flopped for me to know that I failed. But other

932
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: than that, I wasn't just gonna stop because COVID, So

933
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: I tried to figure out what ways I could. So

934
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: then the virtual stuff started kicking off, right. You had

935
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: soon you had more people engaging on social media, you

936
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: had people you know, doing all types of you know,

937
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: so the virtual was a blessing for what you were

938
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: talking about in a way, Yeah, it was. It was.

939
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: It was because it made me put more of a

940
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: focus into tech. Like the tech aspect for me in

941
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: the beginning was just it was just an idea. It

942
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: was just a just a just an idea that I

943
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: knew could could be something, but I didn't have the

944
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: time to focus on it. So I just kind of

945
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I literally on my first website it was the Doordot Tournament,

946
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: and then under the Doordot Tournament I had coming soon

947
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: Shotmakers League. It was just like a just something extra

948
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: extra caveat we were gonna do at some point. And

949
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: so you know, again getting out that I'm that I'm

950
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: switching my mind to tech. So there's another piece that

951
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: happened right before COVID. I had just gotten into the

952
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: gathering spot and the gap at the gathering spot or

953
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. When I learned about the gathering spot, I

954
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: had also learned about this place called the Atlanta Tech Village,

955
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: and I had briefly told this lady. She saw one

956
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: of my shirts I used to have. I like to

957
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: test shirts out, so like even the Shotmaker's League shirt,

958
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: it's just a test run. I'm kind of testing the

959
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: idea out on a shirt. See see how I feel

960
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: about it, How does it look? How do I like it?

961
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: I had a shirt that said put your money where

962
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: your mouth, put your money where your shot is. And

963
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: so the lady saw the shirt and we ended up

964
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: I ended up making her shoot into a cup, and

965
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: then I bought her a shot at the bar and

966
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: she was like no, seriously, like what is this? And

967
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: I told her, you know what my plan was, And

968
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: she told me about the Atlanta Tech Village, and she

969
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: told me about why Combinator in the gathering spot, and

970
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: so why Combinator was out of my range at that point,

971
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: or at least I felt like it was. Please explain

972
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: exactly what they did is why Combinator. What is that? Okay,

973
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: So Why Combinator is the world's largest tech accelerator program.

974
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: So companies like door Dash came out of Y Combinator.

975
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Airbnb is a Y Combinator company, and so what why

976
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: Combinator does. It'll you submit an application with your idea,

977
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: your pitch, your team, and essentially they'll give you half

978
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: a million dollars in funding to get you going, and

979
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: they accelerate the process of your company. So with tech companies,

980
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it's usually all about acceleration, building fast, you know, iterating

981
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: fast and scaling and growing as quickly as possible. Like, look,

982
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: how fast Airbnb just kind of took off right Well,

983
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: that acceleration is in part due in a large part

984
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: due to Y Combinator, because once you get into that network,

985
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: that tech network, and the media coverage of it, it

986
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: just it just takes off really quickly because it's software,

987
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's something that can that can instantly be shared.

988
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: It's quick, it can go viral, you know, overnight, and

989
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: that's what that's what happens to a lot of those

990
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: companies that come out of Y Combinator. And so she

991
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: was just kind of you know, schooling me on on

992
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: this this idea that I had. She's like, you know, look,

993
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: I think you got something there looking at these places

994
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: and see what kind of resources they have. I still

995
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: was focused on the tour based thing. But I but

996
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of those people. I don't think

997
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: you have conversations or meetings for for no reason. I

998
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: don't believe in coincidence. So I did look into y Combinator.

999
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: I looked up the tech Village though it was really cool,

1000
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: put in the application, and I put in the application

1001
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: at the gathering spot. I got accepted into the gathering

1002
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: spot at the Tech Village. I was told that my

1003
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: tech rolemap, which I didn't even know what the tech

1004
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: rolemap was, that my tech rolemap wasn't wasn't quite there,

1005
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: and that I needed to build what they called a

1006
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: proof of concept again, things that I at first I

1007
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: kind of just let go over my head. But during

1008
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: COVID I had a lot of time to think, so

1009
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: so I really took a hard look at proof of concept.

1010
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: So I started, you know, I got into YouTube University, man.

1011
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: I looked at a lot of videos from the Atlanta

1012
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Tech Village from y Combinator. The gathering spot had some

1013
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: virtual resources that I tapped into to learn about how

1014
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: to turn my idea into a tech company. And fast

1015
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: forward to twenty twenty one. I had, through using up work,

1016
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: through using Fiber, I had found different vetted and found

1017
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: different freelance developers. Put together this rough proof of concept

1018
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: and ran ten weeks of virtual competitions, and I ran

1019
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: it like a TV show from my Instagram page and

1020
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: ended up getting some attention from all his life. Had

1021
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: a couple of NBA players that reached out, Um, gave

1022
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: me some guidance, some early guidance. Uh, Derek Anderson with Anderson.

1023
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: Derry Anderson used to play for Kentucky. He's in Memphis, right, Uh,

1024
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: he's he's he's in Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah, he's a businessman.

1025
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: He's a good bit yeah yeah, big, big, big businessman.

1026
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: And and and you know, and so think about Derek again.

1027
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm you know, other parts of my background of of

1028
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: of of sales and and and marketing and stuff like that,

1029
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm not shot with cold calling people. So I looked

1030
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: up Derek you know, his primary page. You know, he

1031
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: has a lot of a lot of followers, all that

1032
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Then I saw that he had you know,

1033
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: some other small businesses. And so I went to those

1034
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: pages and you you they have phone numbers on them,

1035
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: and so, um, I ended up reaching out through one

1036
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: of his like training pages, and I'm thinking, I'm probably

1037
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna just get you know, one of his assistants or

1038
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: somebody like that. Man it was him. He picked up

1039
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: the phone right right, and I ended up talking to him,

1040
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: told him what I was doing, and uh, yeah, man,

1041
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 1: he like probably for about I say, about two months

1042
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: and even to this day, like I still have his

1043
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: phone number. I've talked to him a couple of times,

1044
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: um as I progressed and what I've done, um, just

1045
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: to kind of get feedback from him. You know, he's

1046
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: not a he's not an easy person to sell. So

1047
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: he gonna so the feedback he's gonna give you, it's

1048
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be crucial. You know, it's gonna

1049
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: be something that you can actually taken and grow from.

1050
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: It's not He's not a yes yes man type of person.

1051
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: CO called him. He gave me, gave me some good

1052
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: it gave me some good stuff. Um, a basketball community

1053
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: all brought together on this one idea shot. Yeah. So

1054
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: right now, if you go to Shotmakers League dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can fill out a profile. We'll be launching. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna launch during March, March maddens. We're gonna start doing

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Speaker 1: our first competitions. The platform has grown so before we

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Speaker 1: used to control all the competitions, but now you yourself

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: can create your own competition. You can create a challenge

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Speaker 1: just for a friend that you can text to them,

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Speaker 1: or you can post it for the community for somebody

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Speaker 1: else to take your challenge. And so in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, we're like a lot like a roadblox, you

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Speaker 1: know how the kids they get on there create these

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Speaker 1: different games for each other to play and engage with

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Speaker 1: and build community. We're doing the same thing, but within

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Speaker 1: the basketball gait. Let me ask you this, let me

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Speaker 1: this is interesting now, you know, not saying that one't

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Speaker 1: interested ear, but now your money making master class conversation.

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Speaker 1: Now let's go, because you know is that my number

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Speaker 1: one thought would be, you know, I'm just gonna build

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Speaker 1: this up. Okay, I'm gonna build this up, and then

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Speaker 1: each one of these teams I have in the league

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Speaker 1: have a value, Okay, whether it's a million dollars or whatever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So but you're saying that we've show on people can

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Speaker 1: create the own leagues of this platform. I'm saying, why

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Speaker 1: can't you just hold these team and just let the value,

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Speaker 1: you know, just keep going up, and every time somebody

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Speaker 1: sell their team, you get ten percent of the team.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that's that's a possibility within it. But if

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Speaker 1: you look at platforms like, let's take a rope. Like again,

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00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: let's take a Roadblocks right right, the thing that makes

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Speaker 1: Roadblocks the most valuable is because where you can have one,

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Speaker 1: let's say Roadblocks wanted to be the only developer, right typically,

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Speaker 1: so just like a league a developer, right, a league,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's put league in developer in the same space, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Roadblocks is a community of developers. So now you have

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Speaker 1: thousands of video games housed in one place. And so

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Speaker 1: that makes Roadblocks worth twenty two billion dollars, where if

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Speaker 1: they were just one video game, maybe they're worth one billion.

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Speaker 1: But because it's so much going on, it's so many

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00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: other they become the platform the place for so many

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Speaker 1: other developers or leagues to be able to sustain themselves.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm doing here. I've created a platform

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Speaker 1: where leagues themselves can be housed and they can operate

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Speaker 1: in a virtual world on Shotmakers League. Like then they

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00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: can they can run their leagues and so instead of

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Speaker 1: it just being one Shotmakers League, it can be thousands

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Speaker 1: of other leagues sitting with on the Shotmakers League platform. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say that again. You know an idea like

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Speaker 1: so many of us, you know, we just love the

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Speaker 1: game of basketball played in the streets. And now you've

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Speaker 1: taken this using tech technology now to being afraid to

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Speaker 1: call somebody and pitch your idea, now to being afraid

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00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: of the word no, being consistent and educate yourself into

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: building something that I feel it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: franchise that's going to be a huge money maker for you.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say congratulations, man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Man to work work, still still still working at it

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Speaker 1: right now, still working, still working, but now I definitely

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. The hard part is the idea is real,

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Speaker 1: and so the Shotmakers League, founded by Robert Foster, is,

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Speaker 1: like I said, the virtual platform, virtual basketball video competition

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Speaker 1: platform that can expand again, tell everybody how they can

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Speaker 1: find this platform and uh and how they can contact you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, now you can go to ww dot

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Speaker 1: Shotmakers League dot com, create a profile, and again you

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Speaker 1: can you can start. You can create your own league

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Speaker 1: right now and you can start charging people to enter

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Speaker 1: into your competitions. We're going to be fully launching very

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Speaker 1: soon within I want to say maybe a week or two,

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Speaker 1: but definitely before the March Manness Tournament is over with

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Speaker 1: UH and then you'll be able to again create your

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Speaker 1: own profile and start your own league within the Shotmakers League.

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Speaker 1: If you want to reach me directly though, I also

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Speaker 1: am on LinkedIn at Robert Foster Um. I love to connect.

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Speaker 1: I also am a podcast podcast host. I have a

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Speaker 1: show called The No Cap Table where I teach people

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Speaker 1: and teach people about starting to startup, how to be

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Speaker 1: a non technical startup founder. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of other non technical founders and technical founders

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Speaker 1: that come on our show and tell their stories. We're

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Speaker 1: associated with Fooboo Radio Cool. I appreciate you, Robert for

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: coming to my show. Appreciate this story. Man. I know

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Speaker 1: we started out having fun, but man, in the end, brother,

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Speaker 1: you brought the You brought the heat with the information

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Speaker 1: and inspired a lot of people with your story because

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Speaker 1: your story is one of them. I'm just an everyday

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Speaker 1: guy man. I'm grinding just like everybody and gets what

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Speaker 1: I'm turning that grind into reality. Thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations Master Class, Robert Foster, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me appreciate again. If you want

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Speaker 1: to listen to any of our stories, you can go

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Speaker 1: to Moneymaking Conversation dot com. But more importantly, I'll be

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Speaker 1: back Tuesday with another show with two more incredible guests

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Speaker 1: that will be telling you how you can change your

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Speaker 1: life because their life changed when they started believing in

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Speaker 1: them sales. We'll see you next Tuesday, and thank you

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