WEBVTT - How Marathons Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry And this is Stuff you Should Know, the Hot

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<v Speaker 1>and Sweaty edition. It is hot in here. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you were talking about marathon running, yeah I was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it worked both ways. You know you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>an urge to run a marathon? No? Same here, not

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<v Speaker 1>really even researching this. You know, I get kind of

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<v Speaker 1>caught up when when we do research from like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start growing Bond's eye, I'm gonna grow orchids. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start um, you know, um clipping those little uh

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<v Speaker 1>those little indentations into into currency to help the blind

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<v Speaker 1>and start cleaning up crime scenes. That was another one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that didn't happen. I felt that the beginnings of

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<v Speaker 1>an inkling of it. And I want to go jog,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want a marathon. No. Well, my joke

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been saying for about thirty years is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even like driving twenty six miles. It's a good one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotten a little stale. Um. Yeah, I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>the urge. I think it's great if people want to

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<v Speaker 1>run marathons, sure you, but um, it is not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate running. Uh see. I like running, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it. I don't have any desire to run

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<v Speaker 1>that far for that long. I like walking or like spinning.

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<v Speaker 1>I like all kinds of great aerobic exercise. You mean spinning,

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<v Speaker 1>like cycling, No no, no, like a like a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>totally okay, totaling and tumbling, I like rolling downhills No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>spinning on a bike. It's all great. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>hate running. I hate it. Okay, I never have liked it. Well, then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>marathon is probably not for you, But there it is

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<v Speaker 1>for plenty of people. There's and it's growing in popularity.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>marathons are quite popular, Chuck. I saw that in the

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming I believe it's in November, the New York Marathon.

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<v Speaker 1>They're expecting fifty plus people to run it. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>out of like a hundred thousand plus people who are

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<v Speaker 1>applying to be chosen to run. There's a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the half marathon too. There was I think

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand, fourteen, four full years ago, there was

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<v Speaker 1>something like two million finishers. That's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>running marathons and half marathons. So clearly it's popular. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay with me, Like do your thing. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've flirted with the idea of a ten k

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<v Speaker 1>with our famous Peachtree road Race. Yes, because it's and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the sun in the show, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a social event. Uh And and from

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<v Speaker 1>what I see, it's a good time to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and run the peach Tree road Race. And growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta seeing everyone with those shirts on the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July, I'm always like, man, I want one of

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<v Speaker 1>those shirts. One day. You can just buy one from eBay.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I remember the running part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>and then quickly just say no, thank you. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>on fourth of July, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean early

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, so it doesn't matter. It's the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July in Atlanta, it's already like a hundred degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's hot, that's crazy town. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is you get it done before like nine am. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I understand too, But still it's probably pretty hot,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Should we talk about history here? Yeah, let's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people realize that the marathon is based

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<v Speaker 1>on Greek history, but there's a there's a pretty decent

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<v Speaker 1>story to it, if you ask me. Yeah. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go back to ancient Greece. Let's go to Athens. We're

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<v Speaker 1>we're hanging out. We're a little drunk. Sure, I'm wine.

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<v Speaker 1>We're eating uh delicious olives maybe, man, I love olives.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some lamb? What else I've given up lamb? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't eat lamb either. Um, let's see, we could

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<v Speaker 1>be eating um, rice filled grape leaves and uh what

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<v Speaker 1>it kills somebody to give us a little test siki

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<v Speaker 1>sauce for him, I don't think so. All right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy that, all right. So we're hanging out the azure

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<v Speaker 1>blue seas, the beautiful white homes on the seashore. But

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<v Speaker 1>things are not looking good because next door, the Persians

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<v Speaker 1>want to come in here and kill us and take

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<v Speaker 1>our city because it's so beautiful. Yeah, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them. There are, there's something like five to

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<v Speaker 1>one compared to the Athenians. So we're worried. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Athenian Army, like most other Greek armies, and like the Inca,

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<v Speaker 1>later would um employed runners who were who were soldiers,

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<v Speaker 1>but their job as a soldier was to run as

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<v Speaker 1>a messenger from place to place as fast as they

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<v Speaker 1>could over very long, rocky mountainous distances. Yeah. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>not use horses because of the terrain? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe horses hadn't made their their way down there by then, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So for whatever reason, they use human beings that were

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<v Speaker 1>fleet of foot to literally run uh messages back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a big job because you're not just

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<v Speaker 1>handing over a piece of paper. You you are taking

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<v Speaker 1>the place of a FaceTime call or a phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you need to go back and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say. When I gave him the message, he

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<v Speaker 1>initially seemed interested, but then his face turned and although

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<v Speaker 1>he said it's okay, his face said it's not okay

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<v Speaker 1>at all. So I would really be worried if I

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<v Speaker 1>were you that his official reply isn't really on the level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And they would go, Philippities, you are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best ever, thank you. So. Philippites was actually the the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the Athenian army messenger at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the Athenians fending off the Persian invasion about four ninety BC,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, he ran off to Sparta to from Marathon

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<v Speaker 1>and it ran off to Sparta to say, hey, Spartans,

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<v Speaker 1>we need your help. We've got this Persian invasion coming

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<v Speaker 1>and we need your help. And he was very famously

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<v Speaker 1>kicked into a bottomless hole. Yeah that the Spartan said,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to oil our abs and do some crunches,

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<v Speaker 1>so no dice on the help. Yeah, they said no.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what I understand, he he made it back

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<v Speaker 1>and said they said, now I have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep now for a couple of days. Because he made

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<v Speaker 1>this trick about twenty five I was about forty kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>UM in a day and a half. But from where

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<v Speaker 1>from Marathon? Okay? I don't think we pointed that out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>did we? I did? Okay, I said he made it

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<v Speaker 1>from from Marathon, and all right, I think we just

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<v Speaker 1>I was missing the drum roll. Oh sorry, you ready

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<v Speaker 1>he was in Marathon. That's where he started out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really blew it for us, didn't I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it was See this is proof positive that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>coordinate before we record. I just thought it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big reveal. You're like a marathon. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, they chuck, Sorry everybody. So that's the big

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<v Speaker 1>reveal is the name of the place was Marathon. Where Marathon?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So that's just story one. There's another story

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<v Speaker 1>that may have happened, may not have happened. All this,

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<v Speaker 1>we should say, is ancient Greek legend as far as

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<v Speaker 1>we know. But the the Athenians actually did manage to

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<v Speaker 1>stave off the Persians, and Philipites was tasked with running

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<v Speaker 1>from the battle. Maybe that was a marathon back to

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<v Speaker 1>Athens to say, don't burn this hound down. The persons

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<v Speaker 1>have been vanquished. We're all we're all good. But rather

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<v Speaker 1>than being able to say all this, he has supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>made it back to Athens, just with just enough energy

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<v Speaker 1>left in his body to say Nike and fall over

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<v Speaker 1>and die. And Nike was, of course, the goddess of victory,

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<v Speaker 1>and victory meant that Athenians had held off the Persians.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't burn down the city. Oh so they didn't say,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you plugging a shoe with your final breath? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, just do it? Uh. And the idea. If

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds weird that he that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>burn down the city. I think the idea was is

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<v Speaker 1>that they thought they were gonna lose, so they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to burn their city down because they just thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bygone conclusion, aforegone conclusion, and that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want the Persians to come in there and like

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<v Speaker 1>raid their city. I think they really the jealous lover type,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you can't, if I can't have you, know

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<v Speaker 1>and catch you, they said it to their city. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So flash forward in time to the very first Olympic Games,

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<v Speaker 1>which we should probably do a show on at some point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will like the first olympiad uh and the uh. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one guy in particular, Michael brial or Brell,

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<v Speaker 1>who proposed including in homage to this and recreate this,

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<v Speaker 1>this legendary marathon race that Fidipites ran so many years previous,

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<v Speaker 1>and the leader, I guess coordinator of the Games, Pierre

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<v Speaker 1>Day Cobortine, said that sounds good to me. Let's be

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five miles. We're gonna call it a marathon and

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<v Speaker 1>go forth and run. He didn't. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I took French in high school. So if you'll allow me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Michel Brial and Pierre de coubertin Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say it real snotty like um. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were apparent supposedly they're not like they don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>all the credit. Robert Browning had written a poem about

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<v Speaker 1>Philippites run two Athens, and it was pretty popular at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so they were probably inspired by that. But

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<v Speaker 1>they did. They said, we're gonna redo the Olympics. We've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have a marathon race, which was not exactly chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Um accurate, because the Olympics have been going on for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years by the time Philippites was around the

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<v Speaker 1>of the first modern games, we should say, right right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went on for a couple of hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>after Philippites had come and on um. And at no

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<v Speaker 1>point during this I think maybe five hundred or seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred year run of the first ancient Greek Olympics was

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<v Speaker 1>there anything even remotely close to a marathon as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the races. I think the longest that they had

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere around between a five to at ten k

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<v Speaker 1>run that was far and away as far as they ran.

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<v Speaker 1>But these guys decided to um again, inspired by the

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Browning poem create a marathon. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people said, you're gonna kill somebody. Yeah, that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It wasn't roundly accepted, the whole twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>mile thing. A lot of people did say that it's

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<v Speaker 1>too long, it's too hot. Not a good idea, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, to heck with you, we don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if we kill anybody. This is the Olympics. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>understand how big a deal that is? And they said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet, but we'll we'll watch and see. So they

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<v Speaker 1>held this Olympics, and it was from the from the

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<v Speaker 1>very um, from from the very outset, the marathon was

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<v Speaker 1>taken quite seriously, I think, just because it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a nutso thing to try that no one had ever

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<v Speaker 1>tried before. Um. The Greeks in particular, who hosted this

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<v Speaker 1>first Olympics, they had thirteen of I think the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>competitors in the marathon were Greeks, and they held trials

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<v Speaker 1>over the course over the marathon course to see who

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<v Speaker 1>who could do it and what their times were, and

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<v Speaker 1>um they came up with with some pretty good guys,

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<v Speaker 1>two of which eventually came in first and second for

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<v Speaker 1>those first Olympic marathon. Yeah, this guy speared on Louis

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<v Speaker 1>or Lewis, I don't know. He's Greek, his name is Lewis. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he won. He got a time of two hours, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight minutes and fifty seconds. Uh. And legend has it,

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<v Speaker 1>and this may be it may not even be legend.

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<v Speaker 1>It may just be straight up in fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped halfway through the race to have a glass of wine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that, and I'm like, I'll bet

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<v Speaker 1>he was treating that like you would treat a gatorade.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I need to restore myself, so give me

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<v Speaker 1>some wine. Maybe the thing is that that time you

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<v Speaker 1>just said to two hours, twenty minutes and fifty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>is insanely good. And I'm sure that caught the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of people who run marathons and they're like, what that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first guy back in the thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>first marathon was they were straight up forty kilometer races,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were about twenty five miles, not twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>point two. Hence the reason why his um time was

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<v Speaker 1>so good. But it's still a really really good time,

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<v Speaker 1>but that extra one point two miles at the end

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<v Speaker 1>can really jack your time up, from what I understand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't come about until in London when they were

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<v Speaker 1>the host and King Edward the seventh wife Alexandra said,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just so great. It was and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I would like the race just stopped by

0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the palace. And they were like, well, that means an

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<v Speaker 1>extra one point two miles on this already dangerous race,

0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and everyone rolled their eyes were like, all right, I

0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.720
<v Speaker 1>saw that. Not only did she wanted to start by

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the palace, they said, okay, that's fine, it'll be like

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty six miles. Then she said, well, okay, after you've

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 1>officially said that, um, I want to actually to start

0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in front of the children's nursery so they can see

0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the starting line. So they added another point two miles

0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>because of Alexandra. So she's like, well kill them and

0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they're like maybe maybe, oh well all right, but still

0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, so they for the Night Olympics. That's

0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the first time we have a twenty six point two

0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.960
<v Speaker 1>mile marathon, and it was so the children could see

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>from the nursery, which is kind of sweet. Actually it

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is pretty sweet. And then so there have been marathons

0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>before that one. Again, the first one was those eighteen

0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.800
<v Speaker 1>nine pigs. Um. There was one in Boston held in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety seven, which became the Boston Marathon, and it's

0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:10.480
<v Speaker 1>been held every year since then. That's amazing, it is amazing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But from that point on, marathon's up until I think

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy, they were elite events. You were an elite

0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.560
<v Speaker 1>marathon runner. If you were in any marathon, you were

0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.480
<v Speaker 1>there by invitation. Most of the time, your competitors were

0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.880
<v Speaker 1>from the country that the marathon was being running, and

0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it was an enormous honor to be invited. Um. And

0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that's who ran marathons. But then in nineteen seventy, a

0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.120
<v Speaker 1>guy named Fred Leebo or Leboo, I'm not quite sure

0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.240
<v Speaker 1>how you say his name. He said, you know what,

0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to heck with all this snobby nous, I'm gonna start

0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.840
<v Speaker 1>a marathon for everybody. And he started a marathon that

0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.640
<v Speaker 1>ran around Central Park in nineteen seventy with a hundred runners,

0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was not only just opened everybody, it was

0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.760
<v Speaker 1>open to women too, which was a huge deal. UM.

0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And he started kind of the first UH mass for

0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the people style marathon in the New York City Marathon,

0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.280
<v Speaker 1>although Boston I believe it kind of been toying with

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<v Speaker 1>this a little bit, but Fred Liebo really kind of

0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.960
<v Speaker 1>blew the lid off of it, and from that point on,

0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.240
<v Speaker 1>marathon started to pick up more and more in popularity,

0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.120
<v Speaker 1>especially when an American won the gold medal in the

0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two marathon at the Olympics, Frank Shorter. And then,

0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of course for anybody who's seen for his gump um,

0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole fitness craze that started around that time really

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.120
<v Speaker 1>gave marathon running a boost. Yeah, that was, like you said,

0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.800
<v Speaker 1>seventy two. And I remember growing up in the seventies.

0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember even knowing as a child that this was

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<v Speaker 1>a new thing sweeping the nation, um fitness UH fitness craze,

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a fitness revolution. I remember being just very aware of

0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like running, everyone's running, like they're running magazines and running

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.479
<v Speaker 1>clothing that's all over the place now and everyone is running,

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and I remember just like feeling like, man, this everyone's

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.320
<v Speaker 1>making a big deal about this running thing. And it

0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.639
<v Speaker 1>was I didn't know at the time, but it was

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.680
<v Speaker 1>because it was sort of a new deal. It wasn't

0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.679
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't have to be, you know, weigh a

0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eight pounds, uh, and just be like a

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 1>tiny stick of a person, Like that's what you think

0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.439
<v Speaker 1>of when you think of marathons. It really democratized it,

0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh said, you know, if you want to lose

0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:38.879
<v Speaker 1>some weight, if you want to manage your weight, if

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to just have more energy or increase your

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.439
<v Speaker 1>cardiovascular fitness, get out there and beat the streets and

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 1>run because it's sort of the cheapest, easiest form of exercise. Yeah,

0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and and it's also the most independent too. There's no team,

0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.720
<v Speaker 1>there's no you don't have to do with anybody else

0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you can there's no coordinating necessarily, although as we'll see

0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>as you get into marathon and all that stuff really

0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.399
<v Speaker 1>comes into play. But at its at its core, it

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>is running is the the most basic type of exercise

0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>there is. It really is, And I think that definitely

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>attracted a lot of people. Plus, um, I'm not sure

0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.240
<v Speaker 1>what kicked off that health craze, but that really really

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>fit in nicely with it. The idea of all you

0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 1>need is a pair of shoes and some really really

0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:31.040
<v Speaker 1>revealing shorts and you too could be a runner. Should

0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.720
<v Speaker 1>we take a break? Sure, because I find myself getting

0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 1>excited all of a sudden. It was the short shorts,

0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>but wanting still to not run a marathon. Okay, all right,

0:18:40.880 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back. All right, dude. So we said

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the seventies or where the marathon boom started, but it

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:14.120
<v Speaker 1>really hit and I think the nineties, um, people like

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that's when. That's when marathons just started popping up everywhere.

0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>By then, like cities, major cities all have marathons. I

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.399
<v Speaker 1>think Berlin started their legendary one in nineteen eighty and

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.240
<v Speaker 1>then London in one. But now you can go to

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>just about any town and there's a marathon there at

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.400
<v Speaker 1>least once a year. Did you see this weird stating here?

0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Did that jump out at you totally? It's I'm just

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna read it. They're trying to prove in this article

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 1>how what a boom in popularity in the nineties, and

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it says this from n to nineteen two alone, marathon

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.720
<v Speaker 1>finishers increase from nine thousand to nine thousand, two hundred.

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, is that right? Is it missing a one?

0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it supposed to be nineteen thousand. Don't. I don't

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 1>think so. I think they just are impressed by very

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>small numbers. There was another one who that came later.

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>It said that the percentage of runners under twenty years

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.680
<v Speaker 1>old over the past fifteen years has increased from one

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to one eight percent. Whoa, Yeah, it's weird, man, all right,

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 1>those weird stats aside, there was a boom in the nineties.

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 1>UM Running USA said that the number of runners in

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<v Speaker 1>the largest half marathon and marathon UH in two thousand

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 1>increased by about ten thousand I'm sorry, increased, uh to

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine thousand and thirty eight thousand, respectively in the

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>half marathon in the marathon. Yeah, that's like, um, that's

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that's again. That thirty eight thousand numbers now fifty thousand

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>plus for the New York City Marathon. So it's it's

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 1>still growing quite quite dramatically. Katherine Switzer or Switzer came

0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 1>along um the first official uh uh female participant for

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the Boston Marathon, and dude, you know she was almost

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.919
<v Speaker 1>thrown out mid race when they found out that she

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>was a woman running. Yeah, she entered as a case

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Whitzer in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, so she wrote a

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>book about it called Marathon Woman, where she not only

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>talks about the fact that women like are great at this,

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>but uh, you can do this. You don't have to

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.199
<v Speaker 1>be nineteen and twenty years old. You can do this

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 1>into your into your sixties. And you see that. You

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>see people in their forties, fifties and sixties and beyond. Yeah,

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:37.679
<v Speaker 1>just still out there pounding the streets. UM. Marathoners are

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting people. Like when you see him on the street,

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you can tell the difference usually of like your average

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 1>like I'm jogging for exercise, and like I'm running miles

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and miles and miles. You can see it on their face.

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't there when eyes usually kind of like popping

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>out more than the other. The hair is coming out

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>in tufts, their knees are bleeding, that kind of stuff.

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Here's the interesting step for me though. It says most

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:12.360
<v Speaker 1>long distance runners are college educated from seventy four to UM,

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting. And they make a couple of points that, Um,

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not just exercising your your your legs or your body,

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but your brain because a lot of brain training goes

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 1>into this. It's not the kind of thing you can

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>just say I'm gonna go run a marathon. Let me

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 1>see how that goes? Um with training and scheduling and

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>just being out there running for twenty six miles is

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a big brain exercise in and of itself. Yeah. Yeah,

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 1>just the run itself is, but also the months and

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 1>months and months of preparation and dedication and um self

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 1>motivation and discipline like that takes a tremendous amount of

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>brain power that you might otherwise be you know, using

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to do to do. I want a little Debbie coffee

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.439
<v Speaker 1>cake or Drake's coffee cake today? Why not both? You know?

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Should we talk about the training, sure, because training it's

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>not uh. And I'm glad they said this in this

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>article because I was afraid they were gonna be like,

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>here's how you do it. Um No, they very wisely

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>did the opposite of that. Yeah, there isn't a single

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>way to train for a marathon. There are so many

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and I started to look and it's just overwhelming. It

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>really is, dude. There's entire magazines and websites dedicated to

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>just training for a marathon, not even just running, but

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 1>like training for marathons, and it's like there is a

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>lot to it. Yeah, So it's it's easy to be

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>intimidated by that or to go down the rabbit hole

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>where all of a sudden, six months later you're still

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>researching training methods and not just diving in, but you know,

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>find something that you think might work for you, and

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>then just get out there and give it a shot.

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And a justice necessary would be what I gathered from this.

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a great advice, I think. Also it's

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>probably smart, as with just about anything these days, to

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>do like just some preliminary research to see if there's

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>anything you should look out for or try first, but

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>just get a pair of shoes and go try running

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and see what happens. Yeah, so you're you're gonna be running,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>not not every day, depending on what training regimen you undertake,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but almost all of them that I saw features at

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 1>one time a week you're going to go on a

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>run that's probably at least fifteen miles, right, And you're

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>not expected like the day you start training marathon, or

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>even the week you start training for a marathon, to

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to do a fifteen mile run like that's something you

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>work up to. Fifteen or twenty or twenty six is

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the max that you're going to try to run too,

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and you work up to that over time. Like we

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>should say, if you decide that you want to train

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>for a marathon, you should start about eight to nine months.

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>If you're starting from zero, you should start about eight

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to nine months to to begin training for your first marathon,

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>because you were meant to slowly work your way up.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>If you try to do it other than that, you're

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>going to pay dearly in pain. Have you ever heard

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of a couch to five k? Yeah? I have. I

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is, though I can guess you're right.

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess ahead and guess first it is, Um, you

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>just jump off your couch and run a five k

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you go back to your couch. Well, you're wrong. No,

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it's exactly what you would think it's. It's a it's

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>if you really do not run at all. It's a

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.479
<v Speaker 1>pretty good intro program to get you up to a

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>five K. I tried it for a little while when

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like maybe I should run a five k

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>um and it It just starts out with, like you know,

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>running and walking and then running a little bit more

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and walking less until you're running a five k. But

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty decent way to start um. But some

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>people right out of the gate or like, no, you

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 1>know what, I don't want to run a five k

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>or ten k. I want to run a marathon. Yeah,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 1>so you can do that, Um, but you know you

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>just have to. You're training your body to run for

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty six point two miles, which you're there's people out

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>there who are like the not only you're not supposed

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to do that. The human bodies not meant to run.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to walk. That's it. This is totally unnatural.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Most other people say that's not true. But twenty six

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>point two miles across the board, people say, the average

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>person can't just do that. You have to work up

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, so you're gonna have that one weekly

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>long run. You're gonna be cross training uh on your

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>days in between, which keeps you in good shape. And

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you're just using I think the whole point here is

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to use your muscles and your lungs in a different way. Well,

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, and you're also giving your the muscles you

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>used to run arrest. You're you're working them out, you're

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>keeping working them out, but you're you're taking arrest from running. Yeah,

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>although there will be a full rest day in there

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>as well, Um, where you're well, we'll talk about the

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>muscles and how they regenerate here in a minute. Um.

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 1>But then you've also got your speed work or interval

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>training or the greatest words ever fart like running, right

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is that? And then I saw oh it's sweetish Okay, yeah,

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>sweetish for speed play and so innocent the swedes and

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so good looking. Um. But interval training that's when you're

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>doing uh things like you're working out different muscles like

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>by sprinting and spurts uh or you know, running real

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>fast then slowing down, and it's just it's just working

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>out different parts of the body. Yeah. And again, well

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about why you would want to do that,

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>but um, that is definitely part of marathon training. And again,

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>as Chuck said, this is not meant to be your

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>how to guide to marathon training. Nope. Just listen to

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this and if it gets you like jazz, then maybe

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you should go try to learn how to train for

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a marathon. But that's not what we're doing right here. No.

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And the other really helpful thing that it's said in

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>here was it like, what is your goal here? You

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>need to figure that out? Are you trying to be competitive?

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to just finish the race or do

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a time goal in mind? Um? Do you

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>want to like walk part of it? Like just figure

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>out what your goal is here? And it early on

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>it's probably just like I just want to go out

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>there and finish this thing. Yeah, I think that's what

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people their first goal is, probably of

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>first time marathoners, is just to finish, you know, without

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>pooping yourself the Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Um.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>The one of the things about marathon ng is and

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone who is friends or a relative of somebody who

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>marathons knows is it can become something of an obsession.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>And one way that you can be right. One way

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you can become obsessed with marathoning is by keeping a

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>training journal, which most most training regimens encourage. Um. And

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>there's the number of reasons you would want to keep this.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So a training journal just basically is where you log

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>your data from a run, whether it's like, um, how

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>your eggs and pains were, what your heart rate was

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>if you keep up with that, which of your shoes

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you're wearing, how much sleep you got the night before,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>what the weather was, like what your weight was, all

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>this different stuff. You can log all that down and

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>over time you can start to find patterns in that

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>data and you can see, well, oh, actually my orange shoes,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I do way better in those than my blue shoes,

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not gonna wear my blue shoes anymore. Or

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I run really well if I've gotten five hours of sleep,

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but I run terribly at six and a half hour sleep.

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You can find patterns like that, and you can use

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it to kind of guide your training a little more. Plus,

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it's also a big motivator too, because especially if, like

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you say, you're logging body weight or your time or whatever,

0:29:56.000 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see physically intangible form your provement over time,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>which can keep you going, you know, for sure. So

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>trading journal is usually a pretty good idea, but it

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>is kind of it encapsulates like the idea of really

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>becoming very focused on on marathon ng. Yeah, it's the

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>same like if you're if you're trying to keep up

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>with your like food or calorie and take, like they say,

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the best way to do that is is to journal

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>about it or use one of the apps that helps

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you journal about it. Yeah, sure, um, all right, should

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>we talk about muscles. Yes, so there are a couple

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of types of muscles, and I know we've talked about

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>this before in something over the past ten years, but

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what. But but the twitch, the slow twitch,

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and the fast twitch muscles, and there's also I saw

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>intermediate twitch, but we won't mention this. The muscle that

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>dare not speak its name, right. Uh, slow twitch muscles

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>are important for marathoning because they are your which I

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>guess you would call your endurance muscles for endurance events,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>because the muscle fibers contract very slowly. Um. The fast

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>twitcher for more like sprinting. But uh, they do think

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that if you are like a top tier marathon or

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you may actually have a physiological edge because you might

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>have a larger proportion of slow twitch muscles to fast twitch. Yeah.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, UM, slow twitch muscle, so that has

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>way more MYA globin and mitochondria and capillaries, which means

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you get more oxygen and more oxygen rich blood and

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you have more um oxygen conversion sites to to convert

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>energy into muscle movement right there in the muscle. So

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>it's way better for long distance endurance running. They'll have

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>more slow twitch than fast twitch because over time, when

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you're working out, you tear your muscles, you pull them,

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you stretch them, you tear them, and you you get

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>stronger because your body repairs that muscle and it's stronger

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>than it was before. That's how you gain muscle mass, right, um,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>apparently with runners or with any athlete, but your body

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>repairs it with the muscle that you need more. So,

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing long distance running and you need more

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>slow twitch muscle, when you tear fast twitch muscle, it

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>may be replaced with slow twitch. It's called muscle fiber recruitment.

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So yes, it would make total sense that long distance

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>runners have more slow twitch than fast twitch and their

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>muscle fiber than the average person. Yeah, because they're pretty

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>cool because they trained that way, and that's their bodies

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have developed, have fashioned itself to fit its training, fit

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>their training. Yeah. So that kind of the point of

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that is like, even if you don't have a literal

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>physiological advantage, uh, you can still train your body to

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>become something different. Right. You may not win the Boston Marathon,

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>do you never know, but you might win your age

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 1>group or place or finish finish. That would be my

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>my goal for sure. Uh, you're also beyond your muscles.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It is obviously an aerobic exercise. Um, the oxygen feeds

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>these muscles. Your heart is is supplying this oxygen and

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>your lungs and it's all just an amazing and amazing

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>aerobic fitness routine that you're going through. But it takes

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>time to get there. Like you can't like, just like

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>your muscles can't take pounding the pavement for ten miles

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>on day one. Your lungs are not gonna be ready

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in your heart's not gonna be ready for that either. No,

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you just you have to start out slow and know

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna work your way up. This is when

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you should come in with one of the famous Josh

0:33:55.400 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like rhyming lines, getting where you fit in. Start out

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>slow so you can go why not? That's all right?

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>But with the So with that oxygen thing though that

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk more about the slow twitch muscles

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>because I'm fascinated by them. The more oxygen you can

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>train yourself to take in v O two, I think

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. The volume of oxygen um. The

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>more that oxygen gets transported to your slow twitch muscles.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And again they're oxygen and glucose is being put together

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to form a t P, which is the energy molecule

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that powers muscles that makes a move. So the more glucose,

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the more oxygen you have at the side of your muscles,

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the more your muscles are going to be able to contract,

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and the further the longer you're going to be able

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep running. Um. So it's just fascinating that, like,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>just training your lungs to take in and distribute more

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>oxygen to your muscles will allow to run farther, and

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that the muscles that you're tearing are being rebuilt to

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>specialize in accepting that oxygen and using it more efficiently.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>So I I feel like the fact that the body

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is capable of of changing itself like this certainly suggests

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's not like we're not designed to run.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>If we were designed not to run, sorry if he's

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in the word designed, But then your leg would just

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>come right off if you tried to run twenty six

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that would happen. Your muscles wouldn't become more efficient,

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>allowing you to run further. Good point. M hm, very

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>good point. It didn't rhyme. I'm sorry but it's okay

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>if they get the point across. Uh So, if you're

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>wondering about that heart rate though, and what like how

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>fast should my heart be beating? Um, there is a

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>formula man named Gordon Beer No, wait, Gordon Block, Yes,

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that was it. Yeah, he determined a formula for an

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>ideal training heart rate, which is two minus your age. Yeah,

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you multiply that times point six and point

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.959
<v Speaker 1>to nine. Why that would be your range of your

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>heart rate, your beats per minute between those two numbers

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that you end up with for your ideal heart rate

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for training. I didn't see where. I didn't see that

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. I don't understand what that point six and

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>point nine is. I couldn't find what that is. What

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>do you mean what that is? Like? What what is that?

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Where does that come from? What explains that? I want

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to know? Oh? Like how he developed the formula? Yeah?

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you developed any formula. I don't

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>plug in trial and error. Yeah, you plug in numbers

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>until you land on what what your formula is. It's like, oh,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that guy died, so point one two is too high,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>let's try point one one? Well, how about this? Then

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>forget that, throw it out the window and use the

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned talk test. Ideally, if you're in your ideal

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>train zone, you should be able to talk. Uh, if

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're going at it too hard and you're

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>doing that thing where you're been over and someone's asking

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you a question and you hold up your hand and

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you're just shaking your head like give me a minute,

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you're working too hard. Well, this is so, this is

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>why you're actually running. You should be able to talk correct, Okay. Yeah,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and if and if you do the thing that I

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>just described where you're shaking your head and you're waving

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>your finger and going, well, you can't even say that, actually,

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>then that means you're working too hard. You need to

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to talk. Um if you apparently, if you

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>can sing, then you're not working hard enough. So if

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you see a marathon or that's singing, that's singing, Billy

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Joel singing piano man, Yeah, then they're they're not they're

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>doing it wrong. Now, no one wants to hear that.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Who sings that song Billy Joel? Well, then let him singing.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't even want to sing it anymore. Yeah, I'll

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Betty does it, which is said because it's a pretty

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>good song and it's about him really well, and John

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and Davy and Paul well yeah, yeah, but I mean

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>he's the piano man, right, Sure, it's not like a

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>metaphor for for I don't know, like God or something. Right. No, Okay,

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he's a piano man. John's a real estate novelist. Davy

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is still in the navy. A real estate novelist. Yeah,

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>he writes novels about real estate. No, I think he's

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a real estate guy who writes novels on the side. Okay,

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you never had time for a wife, boy, Billy Joel

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>really was a poet. But Davy's in the navy. You

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>know he probably will be for life. That's right. And

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>America loves that song because it rhymes like a mofo

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>like most great songs. Uh. Visualization has such a problem

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>with that dumb word. That's a big deal, not only

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>for marathoning, but any anytime you have something big in

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>your life that you want to accomplish, you you're supposed

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 1>to visualize that and look at yourself in your mind's eye,

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>crossing that finish line without poop running down your leg,

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>which we'll talk about in a little while. Uh, and

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>there's a guy named Jeff Galloway who's who calls it

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>positive brainwashing, where you come up with some magic words

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>for yourself that can you can just repeat in the

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>rhythm of your run. Um. He recommends relax, power, glad.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good, but you can you can choose anything

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you want. Yeah, um like Metallica corn husks. You know

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>what's so funny is right before you said Metallica, I

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was thinking exit Light internight. No, yeah, no, that's the

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>worst Metallica song of all two? Uh is it? I

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I like the old stuff I too, but

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, surely there was another song on that

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>album that was way worse. Oh, and there's been worse

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>since then. I was just being koy, like Linda's Eyes.

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I don't even know that song. I just

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 1>made it up. It's was like it'd be pretty bad though. Uh,

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 1>should we talk about the Runners High? Should we take

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a break before we do? I was on a podcast high.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, well, let's leave him hanging, because everybody wants

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to know. Everyone tuned in just to hear about the

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Runners High, and We're gonna make you wait a little longer.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 1>All right, Chuck, we can't wait any longer. We gotta

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about the runners high. I've always heard about this.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, have you ever gotten it? But

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you have, and I know if you if you aren't

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a runner, I've never gotten it either. Apparently the runners

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>high kicks in from what studies show. It does exist.

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 1>By the way, there's a lot of bad and forth

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>about whether it exists or not. But what I saw

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you need to run at about a six out of

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>ten level of exertion for two hours, basically NonStop, at

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 1>about the same pace in a rhythmic motion. That's where

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you're likeliest to experience a runners high. I've never done

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.959
<v Speaker 1>that in my life and probably never will, so I'll

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>never get to experience a runners high. Chuck. Yeah, I

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>thought it was two minutes, and so I just got

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>discouraged every time. Well, that's the funny thing about it

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of people do run because they want

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to see what a runners high is like. And it's like, well,

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe you'll find out in five years. Yeah, So here's

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>what a runners high as um and then we'll talk

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>about what it may or may not be. But that's

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the state where you're running and you're you know, you

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>may be laboring and it may be tough, and then

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you reach a point where it's just like everything clicks

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>in you'r you got that even stride, your body feels great,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>your breathing is steady, the rhythm, relax, power, glide, it's

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>all happening, and you get this state of like euphoria

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>almost And they even describe sometimes like a meditative loss

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of time can happen. Yeah, I saw also that. Um

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like you feel like you can just keep

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>keep running forever. It feels so good. And the apparently

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>for a long time everybody was like, well, it's clearly endorphins.

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Endorphins are great chemicals that we know your body releases

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.240
<v Speaker 1>when you exercise. But they did a little further study

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and said endorphins are actually too big to cross the

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>blood brain barrier in a very short time, so it's

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>probably not endorphins because it clearly affects your your mood,

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>So there's something that's affecting the brain. Uh. And they

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>think that, yes, your body does release endorphins when you exercise,

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but they go directly to receptor sites in your muscles

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to kind of dampen the pain. What they think the

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>runners highest is cannabinoids, specifically anatomide or anatomide. Yeah. Georgia

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Tech very on Georgia Tech and uh Cal Irvine they

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>did a joint study and they said that if you

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>exercise for long enough, you can produce this what is

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it an atomide anatomide? Either one? And it is in

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>fact a cannabinoid, not unlike THC. Yeah, I mean exactly

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like well th HC is a cannabinoid too, right, yeah, yeah,

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>but the feeling that you get, right, So, since it's

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a cannabinoid receptor that's being activated this this, the feeling

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>would be kind of similar to it. But I'm I'm

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>guessing you don't. I don't know. Maybe you do just

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of get laughy or whatever, maybe paranoid. How about this?

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear from someone who has experienced a

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>runners high for sure, who was also had some experience

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>with marijuana. Hey, great, and I would like to know

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>how they compare. If we need a control group, somebody

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 1>who's had a Runner's high that is never touched pot,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to compare your descriptions on the pot cast.

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I'm so excited. We just need to hear

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>from someone who just smoke spot all the time and

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>has never run. I don't want to see what their experienced.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we hear from them every week as

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a listener. Male. Okay, so, um, the runners high is

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>probably pot is basically the physiological explanation of it. But

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the weird thing is is, again it's not like we've

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>We've not either we don't know enough about it to

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>say this is exactly what you need to do, or

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it is elusive for some reason that we've never figured out.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's not like you're going to get a runners

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>high every time. And some people never get a runners high,

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>some people get them infrequently. Um, it's it's just kind

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>of like this elusive dream that that runners love to

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>work toward but don't necessarily ever attain, you know, I mean,

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>marathoning is impressive, but the people who really like or

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a may is me are the I don't even know

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>what you call it. There's a word for it, the

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>ultra ultra racing. What's it called ultra Thon's really? Yes?

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that the name? Yeah? Ultra marathon, ultrathon and how

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>long are those all? Right? So some of them are

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>up to like a hundred and fifty miles or longer.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll be like overnight, like you run for like

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty four straight hours. I've got one. I got a

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>couple for you. Wouldn't look into this because it scares

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>me so Ultra ultrathons are ultra marathons. They probably deserve

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>their own maybe like short stuff episode to tell you

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the truth. But there's a guy named Dean Carnazas. He

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>ran fifty marathons in fifty days in fifty states once. What. Yeah,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there's another guy named Scott jurork Key's a ultra marathon

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 1>her but he wanted to show off. He set a record.

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 1>He ran the Appalachian Trail in forty six days. Ran

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it ran the Appalachian Trail in forty six days, something

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that frequently takes people six months if they're like trying

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to go at a city clip. He ran in forty

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>six days. Now, I like that because I uh, for

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>some reason, like road racing just seems boring to me.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>But I have had friends. In fact, my old friend

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>James from New Jersey is a trail runner. That always

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>seems kind of cool to me because I'm into the

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>woods in nature, and sure it's it's hardcore stuff, but

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought kind of like mountain biking greater than

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>street biking. Yeah. Yeah, Well, then there's another ultraton that

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you would like. Um, I can't remember the name of it,

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>but it starts in Death Valley. Oh yeah, I've heard

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of this one. And then it ends on a mountaintop

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and you run it in about twenty four hours. I've seen. Man,

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>those people are there's something psychological going on there too. Yeah,

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>well that's another their things. Like you know, everybody has

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 1>heard that great Iron Maiden song. The loneliness of a

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 1>long distance runner. That's real, Like, that's a real thing

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that to stave off boredom and your body just being like, dude,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>let's go get an apple fritter, what are you doing.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>That's that's like a real hard thing to deal with

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that you have to like stave off for hours on

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>end and keep up a pace to to try to

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>finish the marathon. Yeah, I'm on an apple fritter kicked

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>big time right now. Yeah, and wanting to eat them

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>when I'm not eating them all right, So you've got

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>your runners high, which is the positive side of things.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You have the other side of that, which is called

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>hitting the wall. Yeah, and that happens, um. I don't

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>think it happens like everyone all the time, but generally,

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>in like the seventeen to twenty one mile point, your

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>brain is says and your body are like, what are

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you doing? You're not supposed to run this far? And

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you hit a figurative wall where fatigue sets in such

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that you may I mean it depends on who you are.

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>You may not finish, you make collapse in a heap,

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're done when you hit that wall and you're

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you're in an ambulance. Um, but

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for real, Yeah, yeah, seriously, I'm like, I'm not getting around, um,

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's a serious thing. But what what's happening there

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>is your body is literally out of fuel. It's done.

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. That's perfectly put because to run a marathon,

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>or to run any race, but especially a marathon, you

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>have to have a tremendous amount of stored energy in

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>your body. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when I said that,

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Like your your muscles use or your body uses um

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>glucose and oxygen to produce a t P, which is

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>this energy molecule that your muscles used well. You get

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>glucose from stores of glycogen, which is basically just a

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit of glucose tucked away here there, and you

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>can build up like the glyco glycogen your body by

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>eating a lot of carbs, like the night before a

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>race or something. Hitting a wall is where you've not

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>only used up the glycogen that you have eaten, right,

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>your body also deposits is little fatty, fatty lipid deposits,

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and it started to use up those emergency reserve stores.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 1>And if you can't finish, if you're being carted off

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in an ambulance, you used up all the glycogen in

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.760
<v Speaker 1>your body. You don't have any energy stores any longer.

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what happens to some people from marathon NG. Yeah,

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>And part of the problem is those fatty acids, those

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 1>emergency reserves, they released very very slowly. So if you're

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>running a race, you you just basically can't withdraw from

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>your energy bank fast enough. Uh. The a t M

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of shuts down and you're you're done for the day.

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And some people will you know you can, but you're

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you're It's probably a more responsible like a gel pack,

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>an energy pack, little sugar pack basically, or a banana

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>or an energy bar or something like that, because then

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you're keeping up the easily attainable available stores of glycogen um.

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't understand how somebody who is well

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>trained in marathon NG could hit the wall like that.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>It just seems like you would you would know your

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>energy stores better than that. So I don't know if

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that's amateurs that hit the wall or or somebody that

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>just didn't. I wasn't paying attention to their energy. I

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it just seems weird to me that

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that somebody who knows what they're doing would have that

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>happen to them. I'd like to hear about that too,

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>because I was just about surmise. But I don't even

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. All right, I want to hear about

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>hitting the wall too. I mean, I'm sure if you

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>smoke pot every day and you hit the wall, what

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>does that or play the wall by pink Floyd. No, No,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.879
<v Speaker 1>just keep that all to yourself. I'm sure a lot

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of times hitting the wall is maybe not enough experience,

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and you have to read jigger your training and like

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what you eat before and what you eat and drink

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>during but it probably also happens on any given day.

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Conditions might be such that, or maybe your body just

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't react the way you you usually count on it,

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess, I guess I can't help though.

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>We have to bring up that episode of the Office

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 1>where they had the five k. Yeah, and Michael Scott

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 1>thought that stood for five thousand miles and he carbo

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>loaded right before the race by eating like a giant

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>styrofoam takeout thing of Alfredo oh Man. So great. So

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>if you think about a marathon runner, you probably think,

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 1>all right, if you're out there run in twenty six

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 1>point two miles, you are the peak of health fitness,

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and you will live forever. Um, there's still something called genetics.

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody that are still in play no matter what you do. Uh,

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And that can lead to death. Jim Fixed, very famously,

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>very celebrated runner, died at fifty two. He wrote the

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Complete Book of running, and he died four of arterio

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>sclerosis while he was running, right, I think, so, uh,

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And you don't even have to be I mean, fifty

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>two still pretty young. But in two thousand seven and

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight year old named Ryan Shay died uh and

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>he was in he was competing at the Olympic marathon trials. Uh,

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>he had an irregular heartbeat. Um. What happens when you

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>run a marathon or doing any kind of intensive uh

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>physical training like this is your your heart size can

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:38.879
<v Speaker 1>actually increase because it needs more blood to pump um

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and that can lead to arrhythmia and heart failure. Right.

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>You also can drink too much water, and since you're

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>sweating out salts and peeing out salts because you do

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have to pee, um, you can actually affect the electro

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 1>light balance in your body. And electro lights are needed

0:52:56.239 --> 0:53:00.280
<v Speaker 1>for um electrical transmissions for your muscles, which you think, okay,

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>well you can't run, but your heart's a muscle too,

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so we can't beat right if it doesn't have the

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>right electrical or electro lights. Um. So there's something called

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>called um pyperon atrema, yeah, which is basically water toxicity,

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and it can lead to sudden cardiac arrest because your

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.840
<v Speaker 1>heart just stops getting the right electrical impulses. Do you

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>pee during a marathon? Yeah, I I didn't see what

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you do when you have to pee during a marathon.

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's like porter potties like everywhere right along

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the route, but from what I understand, those are more

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 1>for the diarrhea. Can we talk about diarrhea upon it?

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time. I've seen some very and we

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>have all seen very famous images on on sports television

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of people that have lost their control of their bowels

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>during an event like this and they end up on TV.

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Hint up on TV. They're not exactly sure the single

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>cause or if there is a single cause of runners diarrhea,

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>but they think it could be everything from decreased blood

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 1>flow to the intestines, two changes in your hormones, jiggling

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to just get old fashioning jiggling of your organs. Yeah,

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 1>but it is a thing, it's called runners diarrhea. Stress anxiety, yep,

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that could that could contribute for sure, Yeah, um it could.

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It could also be like if you eat something weird

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're not used to eating, it could be a problem.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Eating high fiber foods, um, sugar, alcohols can make you

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>poop even normally. But if you're running around, um that

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>can be a big problem too. Yeah. So they I

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 1>mean they recommend to for the day or two before

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you run a marathon, like avoid those high fiber things. Um,

0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>don't like drink a bunch of caffeine. Uh the day

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of the race maybe, um, maybe a few three to

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.879
<v Speaker 1>six hours before. Uh, don't eat at all all right,

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but again you don't want to hit the wall, so

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you need to You need to juggle all this. You

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>need to juggle your chronic runners diarrhea with the your

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>glycogen stores that you need to keep up with. But

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>don't juggle your organs. But you can't help it when

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you're running. Man, I remember um, Peter Segel wrote, You

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>know Peter Segel from Wait, Wait, don't tell me. He's

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like a big time runner. He has a column and

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Runners World, and one of them was just about runners

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>diarrhea and how everybody gets it. It's so weird. Should

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we finish up with dear Rosie ruise one more thing

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 1>before we finish up with her. We have to give

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.359
<v Speaker 1>a huge shout out to l you Kip Chogi, who

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<v Speaker 1>this this month at the Berlin Marathon, set a new

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>world record of two hours, one minute and thirty nine seconds.

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 1>He beat the six year old record by a minute

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen seconds. A six year old ran it in

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 1>that it's being compared to will Will Chamberlain's hundred point game.

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.439
<v Speaker 1>It's that big and um. The way that it really

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of sunk in for me was that it meant

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that he ran a four minute thirty eight second mile

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for twenty six straight miles. Sounding yeah, and they're they're like,

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna break the two hour mark. That's what

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he's been training for. Nike basically said, hey man, we

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>want to basically throw everything we have at sports medicine

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>wise at your training to see if we can get

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you down to two hours, because he's like probably the

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.879
<v Speaker 1>greatest marathon or who has ever lived. And um, he said,

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's do it. So they've been working on

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it and everyone's expecting him to to break two hours

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in his career for sure. Well, you know who's not

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the best marathon or in history. I do ruise she's

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst. Actually, from what I understand, she

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>is a woman who very famously, on April night, at

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the age of twenty six, uh, got on a subway

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 1>with a Boston Marathon runners number, exited the subway and

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 1>entered the race with about half a mile ago. I

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 1>saw a mile give her give her a mile, man,

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw a half mile, so let's just say not far.

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll say three quarters of a mile, and um, what

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>was briefly crowned the winner, the female winner of the

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Boston Marathon. And she still maintains this day that she

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 1>ran that race despite mountains of evidence, um, although no

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 1>physical evidence, but mountains of anecdotal evidence from people that

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>were saying, like, she was on the subway with me,

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and we walked off the subway together, and I saw

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>her jump back in the race, and other people saying

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't at to stop or this stop or this stop,

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like we never saw her and she cheated. Yeah, And

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>supposedly they looked into her New York City marathon finish

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and found that there were people who said that she

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the subway with them for that one too,

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>which her story both times I think was that she

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>said that she was injured and just wanted to go

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>see the finish, and then when she got near the

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>finish line was like, I'm an injured runner, and like

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 1>people helped her back onto the The thing and the

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>article I read from this one guy, I can't remember

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 1>his name, but he was some sort of official. His

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>feeling is that she she didn't mean to win, like

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>that was an accident. Uh, And that she just wanted

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to cheat to the race and finish, and then all

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they were like you won, and she

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was like what, which is interesting? She's like great, Yeah,

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a weird story. It is. Apparently she was busted

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>stealing sixty grand from a realty company she worked for,

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of years later, Yeah, a couple

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of years later. And then the year after that, she

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was blested for selling two keys of cocaine to an

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 1>undercover detective. Yeah, this is the last kind of person

0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to sell two keys of cocaine too. Yeah,

0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>for real. So she had a colorful life, and I

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>guess still does. Why don't she's still around? Yeah? I

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>think she's in her sixties. Huh. Um. They've made it

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>much harder to cheat nowadays. There are checkpoint computer checkpoints,

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>their video checkpoints um that are hidden and you don't

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>know where they are. And all of this is in

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>an effort to uh. And I think one of those cameras,

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>in fact, is what eventually captured the Boston bombing, if

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken. Oh, is that right? I think, so

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that totally makes sense. Wow, Yeah, that's so that one

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to point out to um. Remember how Wes

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 1>said the Boston marath has been one every year since

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<v Speaker 1>I think, even including the year after the bombing too,

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<v Speaker 1>So like that. I remember in two thousand and fourteen

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>when they had it again otter the year after the bombing,

1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know, it's a big deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand quite why I was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was strictly because they were coming back

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<v Speaker 1>from the bombing. They were also saying like, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>about to miss a year because of those terrorists jerks.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to keep Yeah, for sure, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see that movie with Jack Killenhall, which one. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>one he plays the guy who very had that very

1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>cheese grewesome famous picture. He lost his legs in the

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<v Speaker 1>bombing and uh they made a movie about his life. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like Mark Wahlberg was in that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that he is there another one that he was in,

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<v Speaker 1>because in another I think he was. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>Marky Mark. So he was the guy that saved the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was one of the got the cops

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<v Speaker 1>chasing him down or special Investigator or something I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably right. I don't think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>even see that movie to know that's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Marky Mark though, sure man, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>not has a Hamburger place? Does he? Yeah? Wallburgers? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So you've got anything more on wall Burgers?

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