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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there, and there's

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Speaker 1: Jerry And this is Stuff you Should Know, the Hot

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Speaker 1: and Sweaty edition. It is hot in here. Although I

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Speaker 1: know that you were talking about marathon running, yeah I was,

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Speaker 1: but it worked both ways. You know you ever had

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Speaker 1: an urge to run a marathon? No? Same here, not

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Speaker 1: really even researching this. You know, I get kind of

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Speaker 1: caught up when when we do research from like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start growing Bond's eye, I'm gonna grow orchids. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start um, you know, um clipping those little uh

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Speaker 1: those little indentations into into currency to help the blind

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Speaker 1: and start cleaning up crime scenes. That was another one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that didn't happen. I felt that the beginnings of

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Speaker 1: an inkling of it. And I want to go jog,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want a marathon. No. Well, my joke

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Speaker 1: that I've been saying for about thirty years is I

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Speaker 1: don't even like driving twenty six miles. It's a good one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gotten a little stale. Um. Yeah, I've never had

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Speaker 1: the urge. I think it's great if people want to

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Speaker 1: run marathons, sure you, but um, it is not for me.

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Speaker 1: I hate running. Uh see. I like running, I just

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Speaker 1: I hate it. I don't have any desire to run

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Speaker 1: that far for that long. I like walking or like spinning.

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Speaker 1: I like all kinds of great aerobic exercise. You mean spinning,

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Speaker 1: like cycling, No no, no, like a like a kid,

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Speaker 1: totally okay, totaling and tumbling, I like rolling downhills No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: spinning on a bike. It's all great. But I just

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Speaker 1: hate running. I hate it. Okay, I never have liked it. Well, then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: marathon is probably not for you, But there it is

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Speaker 1: for plenty of people. There's and it's growing in popularity.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but

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Speaker 1: marathons are quite popular, Chuck. I saw that in the

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Speaker 1: the upcoming I believe it's in November, the New York Marathon.

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Speaker 1: They're expecting fifty plus people to run it. And that's

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Speaker 1: out of like a hundred thousand plus people who are

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Speaker 1: applying to be chosen to run. There's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And then the half marathon too. There was I think

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Speaker 1: in two thousand, fourteen, four full years ago, there was

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Speaker 1: something like two million finishers. That's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: running marathons and half marathons. So clearly it's popular. And

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Speaker 1: that's okay with me, Like do your thing. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: I've I've flirted with the idea of a ten k

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Speaker 1: with our famous Peachtree road Race. Yes, because it's and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the sun in the show, but it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a social event. Uh And and from

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Speaker 1: what I see, it's a good time to go out

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Speaker 1: and run the peach Tree road Race. And growing up

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta seeing everyone with those shirts on the fourth

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Speaker 1: of July, I'm always like, man, I want one of

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Speaker 1: those shirts. One day. You can just buy one from eBay.

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Speaker 1: But then I remember the running part of it, and

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Speaker 1: and then quickly just say no, thank you. And it's

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Speaker 1: on fourth of July, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean early

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Speaker 1: I know it's hot, that's crazy town. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's what I understand too, But still it's probably pretty hot,

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Speaker 1: I think most people realize that the marathon is based

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Speaker 1: on Greek history, but there's a there's a pretty decent

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Speaker 1: story to it, if you ask me. Yeah. So let's

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Speaker 1: go back to ancient Greece. Let's go to Athens. We're

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Speaker 1: we're hanging out. We're a little drunk. Sure, I'm wine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some lamb? What else I've given up lamb? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: happy that, all right. So we're hanging out the azure

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Speaker 1: blue seas, the beautiful white homes on the seashore. But

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Speaker 1: And they would go, Philippities, you are one of the

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Speaker 1: best ever, thank you. So. Philippites was actually the the

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Speaker 1: So flash forward in time to the very first Olympic Games,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Michel Brial and Pierre de coubertin Okay,

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Speaker 1: And they said, to heck with you, we don't care

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Speaker 1: tried before. Um. The Greeks in particular, who hosted this

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty decent way to start um. But some

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Speaker 1: people right out of the gate or like, no, you

425
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to run a five k

426
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: or ten k. I want to run a marathon. Yeah,

427
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: so you can do that, Um, but you know you

428
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: just have to. You're training your body to run for

429
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: twenty six point two miles, which you're there's people out

430
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: there who are like the not only you're not supposed

431
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: to do that. The human bodies not meant to run.

432
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: We're supposed to walk. That's it. This is totally unnatural.

433
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Most other people say that's not true. But twenty six

434
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: point two miles across the board, people say, the average

435
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: person can't just do that. You have to work up

436
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, so you're gonna have that one weekly

437
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: long run. You're gonna be cross training uh on your

438
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: days in between, which keeps you in good shape. And

439
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: you're just using I think the whole point here is

440
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: to use your muscles and your lungs in a different way. Well,

441
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, and you're also giving your the muscles you

442
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: used to run arrest. You're you're working them out, you're

443
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: keeping working them out, but you're you're taking arrest from running. Yeah,

444
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: although there will be a full rest day in there

445
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: as well, Um, where you're well, we'll talk about the

446
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: muscles and how they regenerate here in a minute. Um.

447
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: But then you've also got your speed work or interval

448
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: training or the greatest words ever fart like running, right

449
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: is that? And then I saw oh it's sweetish Okay, yeah,

450
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: sweetish for speed play and so innocent the swedes and

451
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: so good looking. Um. But interval training that's when you're

452
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: doing uh things like you're working out different muscles like

453
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: by sprinting and spurts uh or you know, running real

454
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: fast then slowing down, and it's just it's just working

455
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: out different parts of the body. Yeah. And again, well

456
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: we'll talk about why you would want to do that,

457
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: but um, that is definitely part of marathon training. And again,

458
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: as Chuck said, this is not meant to be your

459
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: how to guide to marathon training. Nope. Just listen to

460
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: this and if it gets you like jazz, then maybe

461
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: you should go try to learn how to train for

462
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: a marathon. But that's not what we're doing right here. No.

463
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: And the other really helpful thing that it's said in

464
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: here was it like, what is your goal here? You

465
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: need to figure that out? Are you trying to be competitive?

466
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: Are you trying to just finish the race or do

467
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: you have a time goal in mind? Um? Do you

468
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: want to like walk part of it? Like just figure

469
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: out what your goal is here? And it early on

470
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: it's probably just like I just want to go out

471
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: there and finish this thing. Yeah, I think that's what

472
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people their first goal is, probably of

473
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: first time marathoners, is just to finish, you know, without

474
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: pooping yourself the Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Um.

475
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: The one of the things about marathon ng is and

476
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: everyone who is friends or a relative of somebody who

477
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: marathons knows is it can become something of an obsession.

478
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: And one way that you can be right. One way

479
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: you can become obsessed with marathoning is by keeping a

480
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: training journal, which most most training regimens encourage. Um. And

481
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: there's the number of reasons you would want to keep this.

482
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: So a training journal just basically is where you log

483
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: your data from a run, whether it's like, um, how

484
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: your eggs and pains were, what your heart rate was

485
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: if you keep up with that, which of your shoes

486
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: you're wearing, how much sleep you got the night before,

487
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: what the weather was, like what your weight was, all

488
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: this different stuff. You can log all that down and

489
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: over time you can start to find patterns in that

490
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: data and you can see, well, oh, actually my orange shoes,

491
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: I do way better in those than my blue shoes,

492
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna wear my blue shoes anymore. Or

493
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: I run really well if I've gotten five hours of sleep,

494
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: but I run terribly at six and a half hour sleep.

495
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: You can find patterns like that, and you can use

496
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: it to kind of guide your training a little more. Plus,

497
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: it's also a big motivator too, because especially if, like

498
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: you say, you're logging body weight or your time or whatever,

499
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: you can actually see physically intangible form your provement over time,

500
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: which can keep you going, you know, for sure. So

501
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: trading journal is usually a pretty good idea, but it

502
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: is kind of it encapsulates like the idea of really

503
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: becoming very focused on on marathon ng. Yeah, it's the

504
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: same like if you're if you're trying to keep up

505
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: with your like food or calorie and take, like they say,

506
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: the best way to do that is is to journal

507
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: about it or use one of the apps that helps

508
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: you journal about it. Yeah, sure, um, all right, should

509
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: we talk about muscles. Yes, so there are a couple

510
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: of types of muscles, and I know we've talked about

511
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: this before in something over the past ten years, but

512
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember what. But but the twitch, the slow twitch,

513
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: and the fast twitch muscles, and there's also I saw

514
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: intermediate twitch, but we won't mention this. The muscle that

515
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: dare not speak its name, right. Uh, slow twitch muscles

516
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: are important for marathoning because they are your which I

517
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: guess you would call your endurance muscles for endurance events,

518
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: because the muscle fibers contract very slowly. Um. The fast

519
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: twitcher for more like sprinting. But uh, they do think

520
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: that if you are like a top tier marathon or

521
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: you may actually have a physiological edge because you might

522
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: have a larger proportion of slow twitch muscles to fast twitch. Yeah.

523
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I saw that, UM, slow twitch muscle, so that has

524
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: way more MYA globin and mitochondria and capillaries, which means

525
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: you get more oxygen and more oxygen rich blood and

526
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: you have more um oxygen conversion sites to to convert

527
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: energy into muscle movement right there in the muscle. So

528
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: it's way better for long distance endurance running. They'll have

529
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: more slow twitch than fast twitch because over time, when

530
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: you're working out, you tear your muscles, you pull them,

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: you stretch them, you tear them, and you you get

532
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: stronger because your body repairs that muscle and it's stronger

533
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: than it was before. That's how you gain muscle mass, right, um,

534
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: apparently with runners or with any athlete, but your body

535
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: repairs it with the muscle that you need more. So,

536
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: if you're doing long distance running and you need more

537
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: slow twitch muscle, when you tear fast twitch muscle, it

538
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: may be replaced with slow twitch. It's called muscle fiber recruitment.

539
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: So yes, it would make total sense that long distance

540
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: runners have more slow twitch than fast twitch and their

541
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: muscle fiber than the average person. Yeah, because they're pretty

542
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: cool because they trained that way, and that's their bodies

543
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: have developed, have fashioned itself to fit its training, fit

544
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: their training. Yeah. So that kind of the point of

545
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: that is like, even if you don't have a literal

546
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: physiological advantage, uh, you can still train your body to

547
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: become something different. Right. You may not win the Boston Marathon,

548
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: do you never know, but you might win your age

549
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: group or place or finish finish. That would be my

550
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: my goal for sure. Uh, you're also beyond your muscles.

551
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: It is obviously an aerobic exercise. Um, the oxygen feeds

552
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: these muscles. Your heart is is supplying this oxygen and

553
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: your lungs and it's all just an amazing and amazing

554
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: aerobic fitness routine that you're going through. But it takes

555
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: time to get there. Like you can't like, just like

556
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: your muscles can't take pounding the pavement for ten miles

557
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: on day one. Your lungs are not gonna be ready

558
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: in your heart's not gonna be ready for that either. No,

559
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: you just you have to start out slow and know

560
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: that you're gonna work your way up. This is when

561
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: you should come in with one of the famous Josh

562
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: like rhyming lines, getting where you fit in. Start out

563
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: slow so you can go why not? That's all right?

564
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: But with the So with that oxygen thing though that

565
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about the slow twitch muscles

566
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: because I'm fascinated by them. The more oxygen you can

567
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: train yourself to take in v O two, I think

568
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: is what it is. The volume of oxygen um. The

569
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: more that oxygen gets transported to your slow twitch muscles.

570
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: And again they're oxygen and glucose is being put together

571
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: to form a t P, which is the energy molecule

572
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: that powers muscles that makes a move. So the more glucose,

573
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: the more oxygen you have at the side of your muscles,

574
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: the more your muscles are going to be able to contract,

575
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: and the further the longer you're going to be able

576
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: to keep running. Um. So it's just fascinating that, like,

577
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: just training your lungs to take in and distribute more

578
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: oxygen to your muscles will allow to run farther, and

579
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: that the muscles that you're tearing are being rebuilt to

580
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: specialize in accepting that oxygen and using it more efficiently.

581
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: So I I feel like the fact that the body

582
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: is capable of of changing itself like this certainly suggests

583
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: that it's it's not like we're not designed to run.

584
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: If we were designed not to run, sorry if he's

585
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: in the word designed, But then your leg would just

586
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: come right off if you tried to run twenty six

587
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: something like that would happen. Your muscles wouldn't become more efficient,

588
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: allowing you to run further. Good point. M hm, very

589
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: good point. It didn't rhyme. I'm sorry but it's okay

590
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: if they get the point across. Uh So, if you're

591
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: wondering about that heart rate though, and what like how

592
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: fast should my heart be beating? Um, there is a

593
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: formula man named Gordon Beer No, wait, Gordon Block, Yes,

594
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, he determined a formula for an

595
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: ideal training heart rate, which is two minus your age. Yeah,

596
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: and then you multiply that times point six and point

597
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: to nine. Why that would be your range of your

598
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: heart rate, your beats per minute between those two numbers

599
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: that you end up with for your ideal heart rate

600
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: for training. I didn't see where. I didn't see that

601
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: anywhere else. I don't understand what that point six and

602
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: point nine is. I couldn't find what that is. What

603
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: do you mean what that is? Like? What what is that?

604
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? What explains that? I want

605
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: to know? Oh? Like how he developed the formula? Yeah?

606
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how you developed any formula. I don't

607
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: plug in trial and error. Yeah, you plug in numbers

608
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: until you land on what what your formula is. It's like, oh,

609
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: that guy died, so point one two is too high,

610
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: let's try point one one? Well, how about this? Then

611
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: forget that, throw it out the window and use the

612
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: old fashioned talk test. Ideally, if you're in your ideal

613
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: train zone, you should be able to talk. Uh, if

614
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: you're if you're going at it too hard and you're

615
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: doing that thing where you're been over and someone's asking

616
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: you a question and you hold up your hand and

617
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: you're just shaking your head like give me a minute,

618
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: you're working too hard. Well, this is so, this is

619
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: why you're actually running. You should be able to talk correct, Okay. Yeah,

620
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: and if and if you do the thing that I

621
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: just described where you're shaking your head and you're waving

622
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: your finger and going, well, you can't even say that, actually,

623
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: then that means you're working too hard. You need to

624
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: be able to talk. Um if you apparently, if you

625
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: can sing, then you're not working hard enough. So if

626
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: you see a marathon or that's singing, that's singing, Billy

627
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Joel singing piano man, Yeah, then they're they're not they're

628
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. Now, no one wants to hear that.

629
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Who sings that song Billy Joel? Well, then let him singing.

630
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: He doesn't even want to sing it anymore. Yeah, I'll

631
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Betty does it, which is said because it's a pretty

632
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: good song and it's about him really well, and John

633
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: and Davy and Paul well yeah, yeah, but I mean

634
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: he's the piano man, right, Sure, it's not like a

635
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: metaphor for for I don't know, like God or something. Right. No, Okay,

636
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: he's a piano man. John's a real estate novelist. Davy

637
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: is still in the navy. A real estate novelist. Yeah,

638
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: he writes novels about real estate. No, I think he's

639
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a real estate guy who writes novels on the side. Okay,

640
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: you never had time for a wife, boy, Billy Joel

641
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: really was a poet. But Davy's in the navy. You

642
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: know he probably will be for life. That's right. And

643
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: America loves that song because it rhymes like a mofo

644
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: like most great songs. Uh. Visualization has such a problem

645
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: with that dumb word. That's a big deal, not only

646
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: for marathoning, but any anytime you have something big in

647
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: your life that you want to accomplish, you you're supposed

648
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: to visualize that and look at yourself in your mind's eye,

649
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: crossing that finish line without poop running down your leg,

650
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a little while. Uh, and

651
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: there's a guy named Jeff Galloway who's who calls it

652
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: positive brainwashing, where you come up with some magic words

653
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: for yourself that can you can just repeat in the

654
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: rhythm of your run. Um. He recommends relax, power, glad.

655
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, but you can you can choose anything

656
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, um like Metallica corn husks. You know

657
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: what's so funny is right before you said Metallica, I

658
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: was thinking exit Light internight. No, yeah, no, that's the

659
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: worst Metallica song of all two? Uh is it? I

660
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I like the old stuff I too, but

661
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, surely there was another song on that

662
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: album that was way worse. Oh, and there's been worse

663
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: since then. I was just being koy, like Linda's Eyes.

664
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't even know that song. I just

665
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: made it up. It's was like it'd be pretty bad though. Uh,

666
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: should we talk about the Runners High? Should we take

667
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: a break before we do? I was on a podcast high.

668
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well, let's leave him hanging, because everybody wants

669
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: to know. Everyone tuned in just to hear about the

670
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Runners High, and We're gonna make you wait a little longer.

671
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, we can't wait any longer. We gotta

672
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: talk about the runners high. I've always heard about this.

673
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, have you ever gotten it? But

674
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: you have, and I know if you if you aren't

675
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: a runner, I've never gotten it either. Apparently the runners

676
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: high kicks in from what studies show. It does exist.

677
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: By the way, there's a lot of bad and forth

678
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: about whether it exists or not. But what I saw

679
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: you need to run at about a six out of

680
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: ten level of exertion for two hours, basically NonStop, at

681
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: about the same pace in a rhythmic motion. That's where

682
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: you're likeliest to experience a runners high. I've never done

683
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: that in my life and probably never will, so I'll

684
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: never get to experience a runners high. Chuck. Yeah, I

685
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: thought it was two minutes, and so I just got

686
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: discouraged every time. Well, that's the funny thing about it

687
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: is a lot of people do run because they want

688
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: to see what a runners high is like. And it's like, well,

689
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: maybe you'll find out in five years. Yeah, So here's

690
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: what a runners high as um and then we'll talk

691
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: about what it may or may not be. But that's

692
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: the state where you're running and you're you know, you

693
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: may be laboring and it may be tough, and then

694
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: you reach a point where it's just like everything clicks

695
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: in you'r you got that even stride, your body feels great,

696
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: your breathing is steady, the rhythm, relax, power, glide, it's

697
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: all happening, and you get this state of like euphoria

698
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: almost And they even describe sometimes like a meditative loss

699
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: of time can happen. Yeah, I saw also that. Um

700
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: it's it's like you feel like you can just keep

701
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: keep running forever. It feels so good. And the apparently

702
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: for a long time everybody was like, well, it's clearly endorphins.

703
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: Endorphins are great chemicals that we know your body releases

704
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: when you exercise. But they did a little further study

705
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: and said endorphins are actually too big to cross the

706
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: blood brain barrier in a very short time, so it's

707
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: probably not endorphins because it clearly affects your your mood,

708
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: So there's something that's affecting the brain. Uh. And they

709
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: think that, yes, your body does release endorphins when you exercise,

710
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: but they go directly to receptor sites in your muscles

711
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: to kind of dampen the pain. What they think the

712
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: runners highest is cannabinoids, specifically anatomide or anatomide. Yeah. Georgia

713
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Tech very on Georgia Tech and uh Cal Irvine they

714
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: did a joint study and they said that if you

715
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: exercise for long enough, you can produce this what is

716
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: it an atomide anatomide? Either one? And it is in

717
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: fact a cannabinoid, not unlike THC. Yeah, I mean exactly

718
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: like well th HC is a cannabinoid too, right, yeah, yeah,

719
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: but the feeling that you get, right, So, since it's

720
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a cannabinoid receptor that's being activated this this, the feeling

721
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: would be kind of similar to it. But I'm I'm

722
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: guessing you don't. I don't know. Maybe you do just

723
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of get laughy or whatever, maybe paranoid. How about this?

724
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I want to hear from someone who has experienced a

725
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: runners high for sure, who was also had some experience

726
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: with marijuana. Hey, great, and I would like to know

727
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: how they compare. If we need a control group, somebody

728
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: who's had a Runner's high that is never touched pot,

729
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: and we're going to compare your descriptions on the pot cast.

730
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm so excited. We just need to hear

731
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: from someone who just smoke spot all the time and

732
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: has never run. I don't want to see what their experienced.

733
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we hear from them every week as

734
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: a listener. Male. Okay, so, um, the runners high is

735
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: probably pot is basically the physiological explanation of it. But

736
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: the weird thing is is, again it's not like we've

737
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: We've not either we don't know enough about it to

738
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: say this is exactly what you need to do, or

739
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: it is elusive for some reason that we've never figured out.

740
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: But it's not like you're going to get a runners

741
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: high every time. And some people never get a runners high,

742
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: some people get them infrequently. Um, it's it's just kind

743
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: of like this elusive dream that that runners love to

744
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: work toward but don't necessarily ever attain, you know, I mean,

745
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: marathoning is impressive, but the people who really like or

746
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: a may is me are the I don't even know

747
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: what you call it. There's a word for it, the

748
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: ultra ultra racing. What's it called ultra Thon's really? Yes?

749
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Is that the name? Yeah? Ultra marathon, ultrathon and how

750
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: long are those all? Right? So some of them are

751
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: up to like a hundred and fifty miles or longer.

752
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: They'll they'll be like overnight, like you run for like

753
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: twenty four straight hours. I've got one. I got a

754
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: couple for you. Wouldn't look into this because it scares

755
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: me so Ultra ultrathons are ultra marathons. They probably deserve

756
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: their own maybe like short stuff episode to tell you

757
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the truth. But there's a guy named Dean Carnazas. He

758
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: ran fifty marathons in fifty days in fifty states once. What. Yeah,

759
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: there's another guy named Scott jurork Key's a ultra marathon

760
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: her but he wanted to show off. He set a record.

761
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: He ran the Appalachian Trail in forty six days. Ran

762
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: it ran the Appalachian Trail in forty six days, something

763
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: that frequently takes people six months if they're like trying

764
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: to go at a city clip. He ran in forty

765
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: six days. Now, I like that because I uh, for

766
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: some reason, like road racing just seems boring to me.

767
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: But I have had friends. In fact, my old friend

768
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: James from New Jersey is a trail runner. That always

769
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: seems kind of cool to me because I'm into the

770
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: woods in nature, and sure it's it's hardcore stuff, but

771
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I've always thought kind of like mountain biking greater than

772
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: street biking. Yeah. Yeah, Well, then there's another ultraton that

773
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: you would like. Um, I can't remember the name of it,

774
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: but it starts in Death Valley. Oh yeah, I've heard

775
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: of this one. And then it ends on a mountaintop

776
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: and you run it in about twenty four hours. I've seen. Man,

777
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: those people are there's something psychological going on there too. Yeah,

778
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: well that's another their things. Like you know, everybody has

779
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: heard that great Iron Maiden song. The loneliness of a

780
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: long distance runner. That's real, Like, that's a real thing

781
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: that to stave off boredom and your body just being like, dude,

782
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: let's go get an apple fritter, what are you doing.

783
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: That's that's like a real hard thing to deal with

784
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that you have to like stave off for hours on

785
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: end and keep up a pace to to try to

786
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: finish the marathon. Yeah, I'm on an apple fritter kicked

787
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: big time right now. Yeah, and wanting to eat them

788
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: when I'm not eating them all right, So you've got

789
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: your runners high, which is the positive side of things.

790
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: You have the other side of that, which is called

791
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: hitting the wall. Yeah, and that happens, um. I don't

792
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: think it happens like everyone all the time, but generally,

793
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: in like the seventeen to twenty one mile point, your

794
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: brain is says and your body are like, what are

795
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: you doing? You're not supposed to run this far? And

796
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: you hit a figurative wall where fatigue sets in such

797
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: that you may I mean it depends on who you are.

798
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: You may not finish, you make collapse in a heap,

799
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: and you're done when you hit that wall and you're

800
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're in an ambulance. Um, but

801
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, yeah, seriously, I'm like, I'm not getting around, um,

802
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: and it's a serious thing. But what what's happening there

803
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: is your body is literally out of fuel. It's done.

804
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's perfectly put because to run a marathon,

805
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: or to run any race, but especially a marathon, you

806
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: have to have a tremendous amount of stored energy in

807
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: your body. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when I said that,

808
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Like your your muscles use or your body uses um

809
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: glucose and oxygen to produce a t P, which is

810
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: this energy molecule that your muscles used well. You get

811
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: glucose from stores of glycogen, which is basically just a

812
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: little bit of glucose tucked away here there, and you

813
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: can build up like the glyco glycogen your body by

814
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: eating a lot of carbs, like the night before a

815
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: race or something. Hitting a wall is where you've not

816
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: only used up the glycogen that you have eaten, right,

817
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: your body also deposits is little fatty, fatty lipid deposits,

818
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: and it started to use up those emergency reserve stores.

819
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: And if you can't finish, if you're being carted off

820
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: in an ambulance, you used up all the glycogen in

821
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: your body. You don't have any energy stores any longer.

822
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: That's that's what happens to some people from marathon NG. Yeah,

823
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: And part of the problem is those fatty acids, those

824
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: emergency reserves, they released very very slowly. So if you're

825
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: running a race, you you just basically can't withdraw from

826
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: your energy bank fast enough. Uh. The a t M

827
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: sort of shuts down and you're you're done for the day.

828
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: And some people will you know you can, but you're

829
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: you're It's probably a more responsible like a gel pack,

830
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: an energy pack, little sugar pack basically, or a banana

831
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: or an energy bar or something like that, because then

832
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: you're keeping up the easily attainable available stores of glycogen um.

833
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand how somebody who is well

834
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: trained in marathon NG could hit the wall like that.

835
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: It just seems like you would you would know your

836
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: energy stores better than that. So I don't know if

837
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: that's amateurs that hit the wall or or somebody that

838
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: just didn't. I wasn't paying attention to their energy. I

839
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: don't know, but it just seems weird to me that

840
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: that somebody who knows what they're doing would have that

841
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: happen to them. I'd like to hear about that too,

842
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: because I was just about surmise. But I don't even

843
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: have no idea. All right, I want to hear about

844
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: hitting the wall too. I mean, I'm sure if you

845
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: smoke pot every day and you hit the wall, what

846
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: does that or play the wall by pink Floyd. No, No,

847
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: just keep that all to yourself. I'm sure a lot

848
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: of times hitting the wall is maybe not enough experience,

849
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: and you have to read jigger your training and like

850
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: what you eat before and what you eat and drink

851
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: during but it probably also happens on any given day.

852
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: Conditions might be such that, or maybe your body just

853
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't react the way you you usually count on it,

854
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: you know, I guess, I guess I can't help though.

855
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: We have to bring up that episode of the Office

856
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: where they had the five k. Yeah, and Michael Scott

857
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: thought that stood for five thousand miles and he carbo

858
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: loaded right before the race by eating like a giant

859
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: styrofoam takeout thing of Alfredo oh Man. So great. So

860
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: if you think about a marathon runner, you probably think,

861
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: all right, if you're out there run in twenty six

862
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: point two miles, you are the peak of health fitness,

863
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: and you will live forever. Um, there's still something called genetics.

864
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: Everybody that are still in play no matter what you do. Uh,

865
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: And that can lead to death. Jim Fixed, very famously,

866
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: very celebrated runner, died at fifty two. He wrote the

867
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: Complete Book of running, and he died four of arterio

868
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: sclerosis while he was running, right, I think, so, uh,

869
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: And you don't even have to be I mean, fifty

870
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: two still pretty young. But in two thousand seven and

871
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old named Ryan Shay died uh and

872
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: he was in he was competing at the Olympic marathon trials. Uh,

873
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: he had an irregular heartbeat. Um. What happens when you

874
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: run a marathon or doing any kind of intensive uh

875
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: physical training like this is your your heart size can

876
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: actually increase because it needs more blood to pump um

877
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: and that can lead to arrhythmia and heart failure. Right.

878
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: You also can drink too much water, and since you're

879
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: sweating out salts and peeing out salts because you do

880
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: have to pee, um, you can actually affect the electro

881
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: light balance in your body. And electro lights are needed

882
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: for um electrical transmissions for your muscles, which you think, okay,

883
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: well you can't run, but your heart's a muscle too,

884
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: so we can't beat right if it doesn't have the

885
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: right electrical or electro lights. Um. So there's something called

886
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: called um pyperon atrema, yeah, which is basically water toxicity,

887
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: and it can lead to sudden cardiac arrest because your

888
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: heart just stops getting the right electrical impulses. Do you

889
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: pee during a marathon? Yeah, I I didn't see what

890
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: you do when you have to pee during a marathon.

891
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: I believe there's like porter potties like everywhere right along

892
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: the route, but from what I understand, those are more

893
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: for the diarrhea. Can we talk about diarrhea upon it?

894
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I've seen some very and we

895
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: have all seen very famous images on on sports television

896
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: of people that have lost their control of their bowels

897
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: during an event like this and they end up on TV.

898
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: Hint up on TV. They're not exactly sure the single

899
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: cause or if there is a single cause of runners diarrhea,

900
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: but they think it could be everything from decreased blood

901
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: flow to the intestines, two changes in your hormones, jiggling

902
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: to just get old fashioning jiggling of your organs. Yeah,

903
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: but it is a thing, it's called runners diarrhea. Stress anxiety, yep,

904
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: that could that could contribute for sure, Yeah, um it could.

905
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: It could also be like if you eat something weird

906
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: that you're not used to eating, it could be a problem.

907
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Eating high fiber foods, um, sugar, alcohols can make you

908
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: poop even normally. But if you're running around, um that

909
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: can be a big problem too. Yeah. So they I

910
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: mean they recommend to for the day or two before

911
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: you run a marathon, like avoid those high fiber things. Um,

912
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: don't like drink a bunch of caffeine. Uh the day

913
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: of the race maybe, um, maybe a few three to

914
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: six hours before. Uh, don't eat at all all right,

915
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: but again you don't want to hit the wall, so

916
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: you need to You need to juggle all this. You

917
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: need to juggle your chronic runners diarrhea with the your

918
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: glycogen stores that you need to keep up with. But

919
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: don't juggle your organs. But you can't help it when

920
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: you're running. Man, I remember um, Peter Segel wrote, You

921
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: know Peter Segel from Wait, Wait, don't tell me. He's

922
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: like a big time runner. He has a column and

923
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Runners World, and one of them was just about runners

924
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: diarrhea and how everybody gets it. It's so weird. Should

925
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: we finish up with dear Rosie ruise one more thing

926
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: before we finish up with her. We have to give

927
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: a huge shout out to l you Kip Chogi, who

928
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: this this month at the Berlin Marathon, set a new

929
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: world record of two hours, one minute and thirty nine seconds.

930
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: He beat the six year old record by a minute

931
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: in eighteen seconds. A six year old ran it in

932
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: that it's being compared to will Will Chamberlain's hundred point game.

933
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: It's that big and um. The way that it really

934
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: kind of sunk in for me was that it meant

935
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: that he ran a four minute thirty eight second mile

936
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: for twenty six straight miles. Sounding yeah, and they're they're like,

937
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna break the two hour mark. That's what

938
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: he's been training for. Nike basically said, hey man, we

939
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: want to basically throw everything we have at sports medicine

940
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: wise at your training to see if we can get

941
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: you down to two hours, because he's like probably the

942
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: greatest marathon or who has ever lived. And um, he said,

943
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. So they've been working on

944
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: it and everyone's expecting him to to break two hours

945
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: in his career for sure. Well, you know who's not

946
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: the best marathon or in history. I do ruise she's

947
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: one of the worst. Actually, from what I understand, she

948
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: is a woman who very famously, on April night, at

949
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: the age of twenty six, uh, got on a subway

950
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: with a Boston Marathon runners number, exited the subway and

951
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: entered the race with about half a mile ago. I

952
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: saw a mile give her give her a mile, man,

953
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: I saw a half mile, so let's just say not far.

954
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: We'll say three quarters of a mile, and um, what

955
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: was briefly crowned the winner, the female winner of the

956
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon. And she still maintains this day that she

957
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: ran that race despite mountains of evidence, um, although no

958
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: physical evidence, but mountains of anecdotal evidence from people that

959
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: were saying, like, she was on the subway with me,

960
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: and we walked off the subway together, and I saw

961
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: her jump back in the race, and other people saying

962
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: she wasn't at to stop or this stop or this stop,

963
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: like we never saw her and she cheated. Yeah, And

964
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: supposedly they looked into her New York City marathon finish

965
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: and found that there were people who said that she

966
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: was on the subway with them for that one too,

967
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: which her story both times I think was that she

968
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: said that she was injured and just wanted to go

969
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: see the finish, and then when she got near the

970
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: finish line was like, I'm an injured runner, and like

971
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: people helped her back onto the The thing and the

972
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: article I read from this one guy, I can't remember

973
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: his name, but he was some sort of official. His

974
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: feeling is that she she didn't mean to win, like

975
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: that was an accident. Uh, And that she just wanted

976
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: to cheat to the race and finish, and then all

977
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden they were like you won, and she

978
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: was like what, which is interesting? She's like great, Yeah,

979
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: it's a weird story. It is. Apparently she was busted

980
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: stealing sixty grand from a realty company she worked for,

981
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: I think a couple of years later, Yeah, a couple

982
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: of years later. And then the year after that, she

983
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: was blested for selling two keys of cocaine to an

984
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: undercover detective. Yeah, this is the last kind of person

985
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: you want to sell two keys of cocaine too. Yeah,

986
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: for real. So she had a colorful life, and I

987
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: guess still does. Why don't she's still around? Yeah? I

988
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: think she's in her sixties. Huh. Um. They've made it

989
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: much harder to cheat nowadays. There are checkpoint computer checkpoints,

990
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: their video checkpoints um that are hidden and you don't

991
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: know where they are. And all of this is in

992
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: an effort to uh. And I think one of those cameras,

993
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: in fact, is what eventually captured the Boston bombing, if

994
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Oh, is that right? I think, so

995
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: that totally makes sense. Wow, Yeah, that's so that one

996
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out to um. Remember how Wes

997
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: said the Boston marath has been one every year since

998
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I think, even including the year after the bombing too,

999
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: So like that. I remember in two thousand and fourteen

1000
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: when they had it again otter the year after the bombing,

1001
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, it's a big deal. And

1002
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I didn't understand quite why I was a big deal.

1003
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was strictly because they were coming back

1004
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: from the bombing. They were also saying like, we're not

1005
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: about to miss a year because of those terrorists jerks.

1006
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: We're going to keep Yeah, for sure, I want to

1007
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: see that movie with Jack Killenhall, which one. It's the

1008
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: one he plays the guy who very had that very

1009
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: cheese grewesome famous picture. He lost his legs in the

1010
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: bombing and uh they made a movie about his life. Oh.

1011
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was like Mark Wahlberg was in that movie.

1012
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: Is that he is there another one that he was in,

1013
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: because in another I think he was. I mean it's

1014
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Marky Mark. So he was the guy that saved the day.

1015
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the got the cops

1016
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: chasing him down or special Investigator or something I don't know.

1017
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: I think probably right. I don't think we need to

1018
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: even see that movie to know that's exactly what it is.

1019
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: I love Marky Mark though, sure man, how do you

1020
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: not has a Hamburger place? Does he? Yeah? Wallburgers? Oh yeah,

1021
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: that's right. So you've got anything more on wall Burgers?

1022
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: All right? Neither do I, which means if you want

1023
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: to know more about marathon's, go find out about how

1024
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: to train for a marathon and get out there and

1025
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: do it. If this floats your boat, um, And since

1026
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I said that, it's time for listener mail, yeah, actually,

1027
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: no listener mail today. What we're gonna do is something

1028
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: we almost never do, and that is plug our stuff

1029
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: and ask for your support. People are always writing in

1030
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: saying what can we do? It's a free show. We

1031
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,720
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1032
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,440
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1033
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: continue to listen to that. But we have our own

1034
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: solo ventures. Uh. And it's hard to get a podcast

1035
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: off the ground these days, even if you're big hot

1036
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: shots like us. So I have a show called Movie

1037
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: Crush where in once a week I sit down with

1038
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Speaker 1: someone in the entertainment industry, from a musician to an

1039
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,240
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1040
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,320
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1041
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: movie in their life and how movies have influenced their

1042
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: life and career. And then on Mondays we release many

1043
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: episodes called Many Crushes with producer Noel where we just

1044
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,360
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1045
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1046
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people on Facebook, and we do polls

1047
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1052
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Speaker 1: End of the World with josh Ark, and it explores

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Speaker 1: And sure it's a little grim and it's dark, but

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