1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with new developments on those deadly wildfires 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 3: still burning in the Los Angeles area. Bloomberg's John Tucker 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: joins us now with the very latest. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 4: John, Nathan, the Los Angeles County Medical exam at are 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 4: overnight now confirms ten people have died in the fires. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: This resident of Pacific Palisades echoed the harsh reality. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades right now could just be taken off the map. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: It's there is no Pacific Palisades. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: And finally a measure of good news, the Pacific Palisades 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: fire showing early signs of control. The Kenneth fire that 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: broke out and expanded rapidly north of the one oh 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: one Freeway is thirty five percent contained. But with that 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: comes news of a new blaze in the far west 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: section of the city. La Mayor Karen Bass. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 5: We are expecting this fire who rapidly spread due to 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 5: high winds. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 4: President Elect Trump couldn't resist the urge to weigh in, 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: taking aim at the governor and the mayor. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 6: I think that Gavin is largely incompetent, and I think 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 6: the mayor is largely incompetent, and probably both of them 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 6: are just stone cold and competent. 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 7: What they've done is terrible. 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 4: The fires have scorched more than thirty thousand acres, They've 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 4: raised homes and businesses, and forced about one hundred and 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: eighty thousand residents to flee. The economic losses have been 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: estimated up to one hundred and fifty billion dollars, which 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: would rank among the costliest natural disasters in modern US history. 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you. Well, another story we're following 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: this morning. In just hours from now, President elect Donald 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Trump will be sentenced for his conviction in the New 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: York hush money criminal case. This comes after the Supreme 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: Court refused to interfere. Bloomberg Law anchor June Grosso says 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Trump will not be sentenced to any time behind bars. 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 8: Judge murshawan and lot of people when he first came 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 8: out and said I'm not going to give him any sentence, 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 8: said well, what's the point of the sentencing? Then, well, 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 8: the point is that now Trump couldn't say that, Oh, 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 8: the judge may sentence me to time, or the judge 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 8: may sentence me to probation, or who knows what. Because 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 8: the judge had said, I'm not going to sentence you 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 8: to anything. I'm going to give you what's called an 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 8: unconditional discharge. And basically what this is is a symbolic sentencing, 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 8: so that Trump is now, yes, a convicted felon, and 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 8: that felony is on the books in New York. 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg law Houster in Grosso says Trump can still appeal 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: the verdict in New York state courts, and the case 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: could ultimately return to the US Supreme Court for final resolution. 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: Well Karen, Attorney General Mayrick Garland is racing to release 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: special counsel Jack Smith's report on Trump's effort to overturn 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election, but a federal appeals court has 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: left that in limbo. The court rejected requests from Trump 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: and his former co defendants to stop the report from 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: becoming public, but the court also ruled that if the 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Justice Department wants to release it sooner, it has to 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: challenge a lower court ruling that delayed the release by 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: another three days. DOJ lawyers filed that challenge after our 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: hours after the Appeals Court decision, Trump's associates could also 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: appeal this ruling or ask the Supreme Court to step in. 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, it's now just ten days until Donald Trump 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: takes the oath of office for a second time, and 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: he's promised a flurry of actions on day one. Now 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: we're getting the details on what he's got planned, and 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: we get that story with Bloomberg's Jeff Billinger. 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 9: Trump is planning executive orders on immigration, energy, federal workers, 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 9: and regulatory reform in his first few hours in office. 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 9: Bloomberg News has learned. The immigration orders include tighter restrictions 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 9: on border crossings, a mandate to finish unbuilt portions of 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 9: the border wall, a framework for carrying out mass deportations, 73 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 9: and in order to withhold federal resources from sanctuary cities. 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 9: The President elect is also planning a federal hiring freeze 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 9: and a return to officeman date for federal wars. And 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 9: on energy, Trump is expected to authorize drilling on federal lands. 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 9: Jeff Bollinger, Bloomberg Radio. 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 7: Okay, Jeff, thank you. 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: President elect Trump says he's planning to meet with Russian 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: President Vladimir Putin. 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 7: After he takes office. 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: At a meeting with Republican governors at mar A Lago, 83 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Trump told a reporter that the Russian leader wants to 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: meet and they are setting it up. 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 7: We get more from Bloomberg's John Hirskovitz. 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: Trump said that if a meeting were to come, it 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: would come after the inauguration. There's no set date, no 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 5: set time, just this announcement that he's looking to have 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 5: the meeting. 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's John Herskovitz reports the Kremlin says there are no 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: specifics on a meeting, but Putin has repeatedly stated that 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: he is open to talking with President elect Trump. 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Well Nathan A confirmation hearing is set for one of 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's key appointments Todays before he takes office. Scott Bessen, 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: Trump's nominee for a Treasury secretary, will appear before the 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: Senate Finance Committee next Thursday. 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: Think Karen, the current president, is getting slammed by one 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: of the world's most v companies, and Nvidia is criticizing 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: new chip export restrictions expected to be announced soon by 100 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: the Biden administration. The company says the White House is 101 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 3: trying to undercut the incoming administration by imposing last minute rules. 102 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 7: The ar Darling says those. 103 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 3: New rules will harm the US economy and do nothing 104 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: to promote national security. In the pre market, shares of 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: Nvidia are down more than one percent. 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Well, let's turn to the markets now, Nathan and Wall 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Street gets back to work with a huge economic report 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: on the agenda. We get the December jobs report later 109 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: this morning, and here's a preview with Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 110 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 10: The number of jobs created in December will be a 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 10: surprise for someone. The range of forecasts is unusually wide, 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 10: from one hundred twenty thousand to two hundred and sixty 113 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 10: eight thousand, reflecting differing views of the state of the 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 10: labor market. Something near the low end would be the 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 10: only thing to bother FED officials. However, minutes of their 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 10: last meeting released this week made it clear they feel 117 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 10: labor markets remain in good shape. The unemployment rate matters 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 10: or to the central bankers, any big rise could be 119 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 10: seen as a reason to reconsider this suggestion. They will 120 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 10: pause rate cuts this month. Michael McKee Bloomberg Radio. 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Mike, thank you, and for those employed on Wall Street, 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: it could be a big bonus season. According to people 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: briefed on the plans. Executives at top investment banks are 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: planning to award traders and deal makers with their largest 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: bonus increases since the pandemic. Ten percent hikes are more 126 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: expected at many desks. The bonus increases reflect an upturn 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: in business and optimism for the year ahead, and are 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: intended to help retain employees in a competitive industry. 129 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: And it's time now for look at some of the 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 131 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 7: Michael, good Morning, Good morning Karen. 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 11: Former President Jimmy Carter was interred alongside his late wife 134 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 11: Rosland Carter in Plains, Georgia, the same town where they 135 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 11: were born, lived most of their lives, and died yesterday. 136 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 11: Carner was hornored with dual funerals. His afternoon funeral and 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 11: Plains was a small affair limited to family, friends and 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 11: members of Marinatha Baptist Church. Carter's personal pastor, Tony Loden, 139 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 11: said the former president dedicated his life to service. 140 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 12: His covenant to spread joy is a testament to his character. 141 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 12: In his leadership, he advocated for justice, fairness and equality 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 12: for all people, regardless of race, creed, or gender in 143 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 12: America all around the world. 144 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 11: Earlier Thursday, President Joe Biden eulogized the thirty ninth president 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 11: at Carter state funeral in Washington. 146 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: I miss him, but I take solace and knowing and 147 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: he is beloved. 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: Rosland are reunited again. 149 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 11: Jimmy Carter died December twenty ninth at age one hundred. 150 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 11: A man who fled to avoid serving a nine month 151 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 11: prison sentence for storming the US Capitol on January sixth 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 11: has been arrested in Canada. Anthony Voe from Bloomington, Indiana, 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 11: was arrested in Whistler, British Columbia. He skipped out on 154 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 11: a court order to report last June for his nine 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 11: month prison stint. Another blast of winter storms is closing schools, 156 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 11: snarling flights, and putting millions of residents on alert across 157 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 11: parts of the Deep South and south central US. Heavy 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 11: snowfall and icy conditions are likely today in Mississippi, Georgia, Kentucky, 159 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 11: and Tennessee. New York Mayor Eric Adams says the city 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 11: plans to create one hundred thousand new housing units and 161 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 11: invest six hundred and fifty million dollars to address homelessness 162 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 11: and mental health issues. Adams made the announcement during his 163 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 11: fourth State of the City address at the Apollo Theater 164 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 11: in Harlem. 165 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 13: When we came into office, we said the days of 166 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 13: letting people language on our streets as subways were over. 167 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 13: It was not safe, it was not humane, and it 168 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 13: was not going to continue under our launch. 169 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 11: Mayor Adams also proposed an expansion of programs involving youth mentorship, 170 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 11: career readiness, and college preparation. Global news twenty four hours 171 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 11: a day and whenever you wanted with the Bloomberg News. 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 11: Now Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Karen, Sorry, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 174 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Outie. 175 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Here is John Stanshawer. 176 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 14: John, Good morning, Good morning care And there are a 177 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 14: lot of one sided games through the first two rounds 178 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 14: of the expanded college football left. Not the case in Miami's. 179 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 14: The semifinals began with the orange ball. Penn State had 180 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 14: a ten to nothing lead. Notre Dames toward the next 181 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 14: seventeen had two long second half touchdown drives Nicholas Singleton 182 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 14: scored three times for Penn State, twice at a two 183 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 14: and a half minute span of the fourth quarter to 184 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 14: retake the lead, and then a long bean time strike 185 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 14: by Notre Dame. 186 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: To go second down at eight ten. 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 7: State leads by a touchdown letter thrill. 188 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 12: Food open Charin and glide us a fine a Jarlin, 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 12: red of Stars set State. 190 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 14: Si yes being the ball, and then after an interception 191 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 14: Mitche send Notre Dame into the championship game of the 192 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 14: forty one yard field goal second seven seconds left. The 193 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 14: Irish won twenty seven to twenty four. The second semifinal 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 14: game is tonight in Dallas, Texas and Ohio State. The 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 14: NFL has moved Monday's playoff game between the Rams and 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 14: Vikings out of Los Angeles. It'll be played in Phoenix. 197 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 14: Rams coach Saan McVay spoke yesterday in. 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 15: La those deals that almost doesn't feel real, but it 199 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 15: certainly is real to the people that are affected, and 200 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 15: you know, praying, you know that as many people are okay, 201 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 15: and you know, you just see the amount of people 202 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 15: that are affected in it's you know, it's one of 203 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 15: those deals that you know, it gives you perspective. 204 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 14: Chargers had their final practice in LA before going to 205 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 14: Houston for tomorrow's playoff game. Joey Bosa lives near an 206 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 14: evacuation area, said he hopes he still has his house 207 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 14: when he gets back. Lakers home game with Charlotte postpone. 208 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 14: Lakers coach JJ Reddick lives in Palisades. His home has 209 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 14: been lost, same with the home that Golden State coach 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 14: Steve Kirk grew up in. His ninety year old mother 211 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 14: had to be evacuated at the Garden Range. With the 212 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 14: Devil's three two Sam Carrick goll midway through overtime, Islanders 213 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 14: a four nothing win in Vegas. Rutgers lost at home 214 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 14: to Produce sixty eight to fifty. Nick Hos to Oklahoma 215 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 14: City tonight, the Thunder lead the West at thirty and six. 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 7: John Stanshy I learned Bloomberg Sports Tarny eating. 217 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide, on Sirius Exam, 218 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 219 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 220 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 7: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 221 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: Both President dele Like Donald Trump and the Biden administration 222 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: have taken legal hits. With less than two weeks before 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: Trump returns to the White House. The Supreme Court is 224 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: refusing to delay this morning sentencing in Trump's New York 225 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: hush money conviction, and an appeals court is keeping the 226 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: release of special counsel Jack Smith's report on Trump in limbo. Now, 227 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to the Supreme Court case, the President 228 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: delect says he's okay with the decision. 229 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: I respect the court's opinion. It was a I think 230 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 6: it was actually a very good opinion for us because 231 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 6: you saw what they said. But they invited the appeal, 232 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 6: and the appeal is the bigger issue. 233 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: President Elect Trump spoke there with the reporter at mar Lago. 234 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: Joining us this morning is Terry Haines, the founder of Pangaeopolicy. 235 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: Great to speak with you again this morning, Terry. And 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: that bigger issue that the President elect is talking about 237 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: is the issue of presidential immunity and whether it applies 238 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: to a president elect. So could we see this case 239 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: continue even after this morning sentencing? 240 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 16: Good morning, good morning data. Yeah, we could probably see 241 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 16: it continue in the sense that you know, these things 242 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 16: are like the walking dead, and it seems to never 243 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 16: go away. But they were, I to be advising the 244 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 16: president elect, I would not advise him to get to 245 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 16: be too optimistic about this. You know, the the court's 246 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 16: points were really twofold. First is the issues can be 247 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 16: handled in the regular appeals process, and secondly that the 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 16: sentencing today won't be a burden on the president elect 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 16: in any way. Those are both true. The broader issue, though, 250 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 16: as far as immunity goes, is the presidential immunity goes, 251 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 16: I think does not end up in Trump's favor. Whatever 252 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 16: else this is, it's not presidential conduct. Presidential immunity. The 253 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 16: courts drew a fairly tight reign around the issue of 254 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 16: presidential immunity and its recent decision. It is not the 255 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 16: open ended immunity. A lot of people like to say 256 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 16: politically that it might be. So what's going to end 257 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 16: up happening here? I think more likely than not is 258 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 16: that the conviction ends up standing because it's whatever else 259 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 16: it is, it's that of a private citizen. 260 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: How much do you expect this issue, the presidential immunity issue, 261 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: to continue to be a focus for president like Trump 262 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: once he becomes president in less than two weeks. 263 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 7: When we're hearing that he's already. 264 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: Got a flurry of executive orders planned on a bunch 265 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: of issues. 266 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 16: Well, I think it's you know, I think it's a 267 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 16: minor irritant for Trump, and I think the sentencing is 268 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 16: a political positive. The unbalanced. Frankly, you had this massive 269 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 16: campaign to destroy and harass Trump, bring all kinds of lawsuits, 270 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 16: justified or otherwise, and the net result of it looks 271 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 16: like the equivalent of a parking ticket, and that'll be 272 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 16: uh and that'll be used, I think politically well for 273 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 16: Trump and put everybody back on their heels, particularly when 274 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 16: you consider it against the backdrop of all the troubles 275 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 16: that are going on in New York City, some of 276 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 16: which you were just all reporting on the perception of crime, 277 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 16: the homeless, subways, and everything else makes the city look 278 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 16: like its own priorities are out of whack. On the 279 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 16: immigration issues that you know, they're relevant for markets, because 280 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 16: there's there's going to be a signal on day one 281 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 16: on immigration matters. Are we talking about only targeting criminals, 282 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 16: which Trump and his people have been saying for some time. 283 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 16: Are we only talking about a subset of people who 284 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 16: shouldn't be in the country anyway? Are we talking about 285 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 16: some kind of mass deportations the way that the lot 286 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 16: of the press likes to talk about this will be 287 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 16: relevant for skilled workers, the H one b vs. The issue, 288 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 16: and a whole bunch of other things. So markets will 289 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 16: be looking at that, I think with some trepidation and 290 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 16: react our. 291 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: Last minute terry. 292 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: The president ellect also says a meeting is being arranged 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: some time after the inauguration with Russian President Vladimir Putin. 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 7: How concerned does Ukraine need to be? 295 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 16: I don't think Ukraine needs to be concerned. The question 296 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 16: is going to be for Ukraine is exactly what Trump's 297 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 16: trying to do and whether Ukraine will be involved in 298 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 16: the process. And Trump says that they will be that 299 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 16: of course they'll be end up being signatorius to whatever 300 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 16: deal there is. You know, but I looked at this 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 16: as a little bit vaporous without disparaging the president elect, 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 16: you know, the idea that there might be some meeting, 303 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 16: of course, has been mooted out there for some time, 304 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 16: So continue to tickle that. 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