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Speaker 1: Scalable advice for sure. It's time nice love love, love, love, love, love,

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Speaker 1: love and love. Hello, welcome to the naughty but Nice Show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hey is rom Shooter and it is Friday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Cory, are

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, thank you for your lovely note everybody. Corey

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Speaker 1: Noughty's it was really really touching. On yesterday's show, I

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Speaker 1: announced that my father had passed just the day before,

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Speaker 1: and the notes were really kind, the dms, the texts, everything,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, naughtyse Let's jump into

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Speaker 1: our show. What time is it? My friends? It is

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Speaker 1: tea time. Big story at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: So Jennifer Aniston is talking about her twenty year fertility

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Speaker 1: struggle and she said, nobody really knew my story. So

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Speaker 1: years and years of whispers about Jennifer and she's final

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Speaker 1: decades of speculation about why she never had children. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting she's sitting down with a rare interview. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: bizarre UK, she's doing it in the UK. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was interesting, and she revealed that over the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years she has secretly undergone IVF treatments, battling really

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Speaker 1: hard to start a family while the press the tabloids

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Speaker 1: painted her as Korea obsessed. She said, they didn't know

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Speaker 1: my story. I was trying everything IVF, Chinese teas, whatever

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Speaker 1: might help, but it just wasn't meant to be now

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Speaker 1: at the time. If you remember when she broke up

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Speaker 1: reports were that she chose fame over family. The narrative

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Speaker 1: and then when he moved on with Angelina and he

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Speaker 1: total that seemed to play into this narrative well, Jen

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Speaker 1: saying while all that was going on, she was trying

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Speaker 1: She said, I have zero regrets. That chapter of my

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Speaker 1: life is close, but I'm proud of the woman I

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Speaker 1: have become. She has found happiness now with her new

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Speaker 1: boyfriend Jim Curtis. It just goes to show you you

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Speaker 1: don't know someone's complete story. In fact, what you know

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Speaker 1: about somebody might be less than ten twenty thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of their life. In fact, the only person that you

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Speaker 1: know one hundred percent, one hundred percent of the story

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Speaker 1: is you. You're the only person in your life right where

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Speaker 1: you've got a hundred not even your partner, not your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because when you said that, I was thinking, like,

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Speaker 2: the main thing when it comes to a celebrity culture

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Speaker 2: it's only really the truth to the actual celebrity. Everything

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Speaker 2: but then again we also that's our business though to

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Speaker 1: And the trouble with that theory is celebrities that always

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Speaker 1: tell the truth, Like there has been stories over the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years that Jen really wanted children, I remember

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Speaker 1: But the story that she doesn't like is that she

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Speaker 1: But it's not for me. But Jenny's finally setting the

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Speaker 1: question of the day. Jennifer is finally talking out after

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey Corey, what are you working on? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, there is some chaos in the world of casting

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Speaker 2: the new Real Housewives.

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Speaker 1: Of New York. There always is.

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Speaker 2: it's there once glittering Real Housewives of New York franchise.

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Speaker 2: Now the reboot has it. It's turned into a casting nightmare. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York yet again, after a lackluster

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Speaker 1: And it's not about tweaking. It's not about changing one

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Speaker 1: the whole thing just doesn't work anymore. It's set up

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Speaker 1: like it's idiator that we're we're fighting to the death

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Speaker 1: I just don't care anymore. What makes me feel dirty afterwards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not really enthralled in that world either. And You're right,

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Speaker 2: We can't escape it.

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Speaker 2: Time for a Noise of the day. Yes, well, this

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Speaker 1: And there you go, look how you've had a niceness

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Speaker 1: there core. The day is the day Mega Mortal's jam

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