WEBVTT - Conversations About Bronsexuals

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no

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<v Speaker 1>Sillers podcast with your host, And I funk that with

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<v Speaker 1>your low classes Malone, Oh man, you're gonna need to

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<v Speaker 1>be drunk for this ship anyway, to be drunk as

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<v Speaker 1>a Motherfucker's the reason I have summoned the council feel

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<v Speaker 1>me is this bronze sexuality is getting It's like at

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable heights, bro and I cannot, for one deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with lebron James as a human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't make jokes about because hairline. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>make jokes about how corny at times he could be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get into his social stands and none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I only talk about his play on the court. And

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing the motherfucker want to say is I

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<v Speaker 1>hate him or you just don't like him? Like, how

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<v Speaker 1>is it? What did he do with his media marketing

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<v Speaker 1>machine that convinced people that if you say something that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem complementary about another human being, it goes into

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<v Speaker 1>a space of dislike like how I got one? To

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Pete? He uses the same marketing people as

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<v Speaker 1>a trans movement. No, I was not expecting that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not expecting that direction. It's the same group

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<v Speaker 1>from Century Park East that handles all their marketing, advertisement, commercial, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>He just hired the same group, the same thing, same team.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like, this is like, this is actually this

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<v Speaker 1>this is facts. I would facts. Yeah, it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>most They're all the same. I just think that once

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<v Speaker 1>you associate yourself and and and I'm just about to

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<v Speaker 1>sound mad political, but I just think that Lebron did.

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<v Speaker 1>The politics of Lebron are the reason why like people

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<v Speaker 1>feel the way they feel about him, like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually like a political figure, the same reason why

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<v Speaker 1>people get mad at Kareem every time Kareem say something.

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<v Speaker 1>Glasses you you had a whole thing about Kareem saying something,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, I think it's just he's just in the

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<v Speaker 1>same you know, in the same sphere, especially with him

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, liberal, like you get guys like Kobe Covington,

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<v Speaker 1>who's in the m m A. He's like a big

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<v Speaker 1>m m A star, right and like his his his

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<v Speaker 1>politics are big because he supports MAGA. But like that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't usually surround the conversation around him because he out

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<v Speaker 1>there like winning all the time. Lebron don't win all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so we have to focus on the marketing

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of Lebron because he don't win no more like,

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<v Speaker 1>and even when he did win, everybody's still disrespect and

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<v Speaker 1>called the fluke. I don't even think it's about organization nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think liberals in general love to do that, like

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<v Speaker 1>they love to build people up, and if you say

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad about him, then you're wrong. Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely think it's just like a product of him associated

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<v Speaker 1>himself with all these liberals over the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even a conservative. I'm just saying I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely to feel that way. I don't even think it's

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<v Speaker 1>that deep. I think he just raised people like he's

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<v Speaker 1>so much. He's he's he was he was the first

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<v Speaker 1>new I guess sports superstar as far as like you

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<v Speaker 1>saw his raps from high school and like he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>at this point literally like he's been famous for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have human but he's I was twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>Bron got drafted. When I first knew about Lebron, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like probably the first time I saw Lebron and

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<v Speaker 1>new Lebron was I was ten, I'm thirty now, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's literally just raised people needs such a part of

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<v Speaker 1>people's labs. I don't think it's but Magic Johnson raised

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'm not that fucking lane. But the media

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<v Speaker 1>but but, but but there wasn't the same level of

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<v Speaker 1>media circus that there is now, like Magic Johnson, now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you tripping? Magic Johnson was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>athletes ever, especially after he after he announced that he

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<v Speaker 1>had HIV, that he was HIV positive, people waiting on

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<v Speaker 1>him to pass, Like we're not gonna act like people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care about Magic Johnson. Bro, that's not, that's that's not,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's that's that's that's not. That's it said it. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Magic was at the dawn of the twenty four hour

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<v Speaker 1>music cycle. There wasn't no, it wasn't social media was

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<v Speaker 1>the first twenty four hour sports media entitc worldwide. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's different like seventies, like I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>like seven. I mean yeah, but when Magic Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>got like when he came and when he had positive

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<v Speaker 1>he was HIV positive, like the President spoke about him

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<v Speaker 1>being HIV positive, like Magic was a star. Magic, But

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<v Speaker 1>Magic doesn't engage politically the same way that Lebron do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's about you. I'm sorry Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>being around since she was a kid. We don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at Mellow like that. We don't look at d way

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<v Speaker 1>like that people do. People will die with Karmeno Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know human being who I know? I know Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I know some people from New York who swear by

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<v Speaker 1>Mellow swear By. They swear by all New York basketball players,

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<v Speaker 1>including Stefan Marbury. He's a girl, don't swear by. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that. Bro. Listen like if I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation right and they'll be like, why don't you like Lebron?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I don't have a le problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's such a good you know, he's such a good husband.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he doesn't cheat on his wife, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that. It's Secondly, like I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>never grew up in an era where I idolized me

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<v Speaker 1>because they were faithful. All my favorite motherfucking players had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bitches. So again, like you're looking up

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<v Speaker 1>at somebody doing the status, I'm not mad at you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Like I don't dislike Lebron because of his

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<v Speaker 1>narratal situation. I don't I know what it is, glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it is. I remember when this was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, when he was going to be drafted and

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<v Speaker 1>Carmelo was pre draft. You know, Lebron is the predominant

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<v Speaker 1>number one choice and people and then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>more basketball purist and the alternative thinkers and the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm gonna hedge common perspective and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy who's right. I'm gonna be the Carmelo

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<v Speaker 1>guy because he's a better shooter, because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be alternative to the norm. So I think people have

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<v Speaker 1>always polarized and because he is a different type of

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player. He's the best basketball player in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the sport with no skills like he. Nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>ever been this good by brute force, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>people who yeah, but he's a post guy. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of posts guys like like it. It's hard to I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they do, but like he for a perimeter guy,

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<v Speaker 1>no one has been this good without being a pure

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player really before. So if you're a generation intergenerational

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<v Speaker 1>basketball fan, you look at Lebron and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>all these holes in his game because they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still fucking dominates the basketball game. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at I just think that he's not. I'm not mad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't still that's all. He's polarized people. Why

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<v Speaker 1>why would he be polarizing? He's like as a human being, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no excitement to Lebron the president of bum. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not even that he called himself when he was sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. But polarized. Okay, Dennis Robman is a polarizing player.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Barklay was a polarizing player before you're telling me Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James is like mayonnaise. He's bland, he has zero

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<v Speaker 1>I think he does things that that he's the vanilla

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<v Speaker 1>version of Magic Johnson. He's he's very dramatic. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>very dramatic, Like he don't have a flair for anything

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<v Speaker 1>off the court. Off the court, he's he is at

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<v Speaker 1>cares what tattoo and nigga has I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 1>just Michael Jordan had that tattoo. That's say. That's my point, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what space are we in into with these things? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Are like, oh, he's edgy. He's polarized. Lebron James is polarizing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like it or not, he actually is polarizing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the human being he's not. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all his dirt. That don't mean he not polarizing.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you? What do you what's the polarity about Lebron?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you like, well, it's two ends on the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>about Lebron James life. What you mean? At one end

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<v Speaker 1>he'll speak about like how like like you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>offer this empowerment, empowerment, empowerment, empowerment. But when it came

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<v Speaker 1>down to all that Black Lives Matter ship last I

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<v Speaker 1>mean last year, he was the main one being like,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're gonna go play and make this money. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna mess up this, this collective bargain in agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, he is polarizing because he's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>same one that's gonna be out there no stop, South stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Because last year, during all this Black Lives Matter stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was actually out there protesting getting shot about

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<v Speaker 1>rubber bullets by the police, these NBA players was in

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<v Speaker 1>a bubble in up here argon in debating if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to play. All of these motherfucker's spent all of

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<v Speaker 1>this time waxing poetically about raising all his other ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day, they all chose

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<v Speaker 1>that motherfucking check. And I'm fine with it if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to choose the check. But don't sit up here

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<v Speaker 1>and fucking try to sell me on social justice as

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<v Speaker 1>if like you something fucking crusader, when you're not a crusader,

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<v Speaker 1>You just an entertainer. And I've been entertaining for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. You don't think you're giving them too much

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<v Speaker 1>credit for a fucking tweak, Like they're like what Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>talks who on the mic and says it you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean? He gives an answer at minimally talked

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<v Speaker 1>so little, like he could just talk about him, as

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<v Speaker 1>if he's a harsh shader, like like uh, like cap

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<v Speaker 1>or like Bill Russell, like he don't talk every time

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<v Speaker 1>he finds the high and this is what KEI think

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<v Speaker 1>that was the whole time. Just listen, Lebron James finds

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<v Speaker 1>the high points of all the conversations and then he

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<v Speaker 1>takes the safest road travel on each point, like but

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<v Speaker 1>is it that easy to fool your generation? Calling the

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<v Speaker 1>president of bumb is safe. Donald Trump, everybody Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>out his name. He didn't for something he didn't like, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't, because that would be a solo stands. He

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<v Speaker 1>would stand on his own. Every last thing he does

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<v Speaker 1>is so easy, like he's just highlights and like and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like that's polarizing, Like that's not polarizing. Wait wait

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait wait wait wait everybody as a fan of James,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, no, listen. Oh the reason why I see

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<v Speaker 1>Google polarizing all the polarized persons to do it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a pains is make people love you, I hate you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have people who love Lebron James and hate Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes But I'm trying to feel some type of

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<v Speaker 1>way about Lebron for whatever reason. What I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out is where is the polarity coming from? Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty straight up and down as a human being,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like nothing about Lebron James, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>get it when Snoop first came out. Why people were

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<v Speaker 1>polarized by Snoop. This nigga is a crip. He he

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<v Speaker 1>is living this cultured, super urban lifestyle, that super niche

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<v Speaker 1>to this small place, and he's proud of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>could get why Dennis rob and he's wearing a dress

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<v Speaker 1>marrying himself. Like, right, all the people historically that have

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<v Speaker 1>been polarizing, it makes sense. Why is this motherfucker literally

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about marketing? Last time we podcast glasses Literally. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a video of a pregame that Lebron played in

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<v Speaker 1>high school where the man was seventeen years old. They

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<v Speaker 1>were comparing him to the right A minds out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wood Chamberlain Michael Jordan's Magic John says he's the

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<v Speaker 1>next one. The man is seventeen years old. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have an opinion about that if you're in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Again, that doesn't create polarity. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>does them because it makes it doesn't because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>comp right, it's a comparable, Like Lebron is straight up

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<v Speaker 1>and down, Like it's like Jay Cole is straight up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. People hate Jakole and people love can say

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<v Speaker 1>Jacole is not polarizing, He's deep. Yeah, he is. People

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<v Speaker 1>of the first. He was one of the first artists

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<v Speaker 1>of the New generation to openly dis Karya West. That's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely polarizing. Was people savior. He was the first one

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<v Speaker 1>to be like yo yo ask Tweeter. Yeah, it's not polarizing, Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>polarizing is probably is one of the greatest marketing human

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<v Speaker 1>probably the most polarizing human beings. And they're both master marketers.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you're missing the point because people like you

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<v Speaker 1>said Kanye West is not polarizing, but Ja Cole Jacole

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<v Speaker 1>is like watching paint dry. See I don't see. I

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with that. I disagree with I know you do,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm telling you your generation doesn't exact. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a key word, my generation. You're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>generation get to so you so, so you don't have generations.

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<v Speaker 1>The other pole is another exactly, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>your and you might Jacole fans so you know, might

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<v Speaker 1>not have your thumb on the post. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>finished today, that's not my point. I don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>his rap skills. You talk about polarizing him as a

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<v Speaker 1>human being is polarized. He literally made a song of uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's basically like having a verbal sparring match with this

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<v Speaker 1>black woman who, like black Twitter loves for all of

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<v Speaker 1>her thoughts about how like progressive blacks can do all

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<v Speaker 1>the and stuff and basically being like yo, like you

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<v Speaker 1>calling me out and you're not educating me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's polarizing with it itself. Murder, that's that's niggas

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<v Speaker 1>murdering niggas every day. And what are you talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the most successible in the country, who you said was

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<v Speaker 1>even polarizing to the jury, just we need some hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuke went to jail. He sold a million records, eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and some thousand in the first week and eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and some thousands of second week, and went to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for murder right after that. Like, that's polarizing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>context of who he was and who he is and

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from and where you've lived your whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that far out of the realm of of

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<v Speaker 1>what could happen under the normal context. It never happened that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that yeah, yeah, no, yeah no. What I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Ja Cole creates Jole. J Cole is super polarizing because

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<v Speaker 1>he argued with a liberal woman about black rights. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because he spends and and I've said this before, he

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<v Speaker 1>spends a lot of his time the same way a

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James does speaking all of this black power, black movement,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with y'all, I'm doing all this other kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when he gets criticized or he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>people's opinions about him, there are moments where you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of not He might not necessarily lash out, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, why did you do that? That was uncalled for.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have just left it alone. If you really

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way about it, you could have just messaged her. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the third biggest rapper this and a girl whose

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<v Speaker 1>literal name is no name. Yes it was. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you make it? That made it? Why did

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<v Speaker 1>you put it out? So let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Driving that is right today? Yes it is you in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a heated political climate with George Floyd

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<v Speaker 1>just got murdered in front of people and they recorded

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<v Speaker 1>it for eight minutes and forty seven seconds, and she

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<v Speaker 1>over here advocated for one thing, and you always talking

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<v Speaker 1>about black power and all this other stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when it gets down to it, you just a black

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<v Speaker 1>female because you say that the way that she talks

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<v Speaker 1>to you isn't the way you want to be talked

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<v Speaker 1>to what they tell a teacher how to teach you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just want to be talked. So Tupot goes

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<v Speaker 1>to jailf rape and is in prison. Okay, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about crimes and you're talking about polarity. Them two different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking about things

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<v Speaker 1>that make of most crimes in America. Let me go

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<v Speaker 1>to be a conversation. Let me let me, let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, let me find it completely different things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you. That's the point I'm making where you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a space where this ship is lane be dying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, gee, can I submit the idea that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we're conflating the terms polarizing and controversial, which aren't really

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<v Speaker 1>the same. I'm saying people love and hate like opposite

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<v Speaker 1>in positiveness. It's a charge about the like they're calling

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<v Speaker 1>Jacole polarizing. It's like calling Tim Duncan polarizing. No, Tim

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<v Speaker 1>has not done ship that was really actually really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like him growing up, just putting it up. You can

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<v Speaker 1>really love or hate Tim Duncan. It's impossible for you

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<v Speaker 1>to really love or really hate Tim Duncan. But because

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<v Speaker 1>really love or really hate you like Jole, Like even

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<v Speaker 1>when Jacole did this ship, when he was like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Little Pump at all, like you're like, oh, young kids,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jacole does things when you can get dislike Jacole.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, Jacob were talking about Little Dump, not everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody in rap was a fucking hypocrite. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that at that point in time because Nick

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<v Speaker 1>has been rapping about doing lean, popping Molley's and fucking

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<v Speaker 1>bitches forever, and then all of a sudden, he come on,

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't gonna Little Pump stop. He come on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody wants to be like, yo, what is he

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<v Speaker 1>doing here? Disgrace? People have been doing this ship for years, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember listening to Blue Dream and Land when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty somethings. The point you're missing the point of

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying and what I've been saying about. Even

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<v Speaker 1>those two particular people, they get the easiest highlighting targets, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like ship that ship. Even who the funk cares if

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<v Speaker 1>you bully Little Pump. I feel I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>this is a weird era, right, This complete era has

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<v Speaker 1>been a weird error, bro. That's how I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a weird era. It's the manufacturer of consent era.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because like you look at look at these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're talking about polarity within a very narrow spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of the polar spectrum. It's like, you know, a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>degrees east, hundred degrees west, and zero. The polarity exists

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<v Speaker 1>because of an attempt to try to manufacture a dialogue

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<v Speaker 1>between five and ninety on one side. You know, it's so,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a question, then, who's so, who's the most

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<v Speaker 1>polarizing person or who are some of the most polarizing

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<v Speaker 1>people right now that are currently in the American lexicon

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<v Speaker 1>that you are and well and will say Kanye obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, but I think that's more about marketing

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<v Speaker 1>than anything. It's not. It's just when he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>exactly everything is marketing. That don't mean the marketing is

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<v Speaker 1>just storytelling. It don't make it not true or re effects.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like marketing is some kind of lie. Marketing

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<v Speaker 1>can be a lie. Like you could be rose right

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I know noriego or this that in

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<v Speaker 1>the third and you could say some stuff that's made

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<v Speaker 1>up and use that as a marketing employe, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you could just actually talk about what's going on you

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<v Speaker 1>in your real life with your wife, and that's polarizing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just talking about what's really happening, Like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what's really going on in his life. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he's making it up. And they're like him and Kim

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<v Speaker 1>is together and their line that's not what it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, forgive me for saying, is this ain't the

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<v Speaker 1>Yellow album with Jay and Beyonce where they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much manufacturer ship. This is like the real deal,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim k real, Like this is like Pete is really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking this nike A wife, bro, Like this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. Yeah, little little white Pete shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>people like Pete is really fucking his wife. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the other people go, even though I've heard him

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<v Speaker 1>say he wouldn't go, he definitely go. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying Kanye is not like this is really like

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<v Speaker 1>his real life has always been like like like even

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye right, this is weird, right, and and it's this error, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember listening to college dropout right college dropout.

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<v Speaker 1>The depth of his struggle was his boss accusing him

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<v Speaker 1>of stealing pants from his job in space. He did

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<v Speaker 1>make spacehps Like yo, he said the vintage he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to escape because his boss racially profiled him and accused

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<v Speaker 1>him of selling slacks. That's not polarizing at all. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not polarizing. That's not polarizing. And yo, everybody know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody somebody it is. Though, if Lebron James came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said that the entire society was diametrically opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to him whatever because he was profiled for stealing slacks,

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<v Speaker 1>would be the news story of the way, exactly. Facts

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the depth of this row, which since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three and four, like we have went into

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<v Speaker 1>the lamest era ever. I don't even know how I existed,

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<v Speaker 1>is um, I don't even know why you're mad it's

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<v Speaker 1>so safe, Like you upset that it's safe outside. Be like,

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<v Speaker 1>why it is not safe outside? You're from Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>you just said that exactly, So what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>So therefore problems still really succumbed to these people's marketing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not having a conversation about Lebron right now,

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<v Speaker 1>means that he's polar No, this is a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>how lame this error is and what episode what's his

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<v Speaker 1>name of this episode? Conversations about the le Bron sexual

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<v Speaker 1>area exactly, it's about Lebron. So no, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about Lebron. Listen, Lebron sexuals is not about Lebron, like Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>I could never formulate an opinion on Lebron James, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm neither hot or cold on Lebron James. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>I be hot and cold on Lebron James? Like, why

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<v Speaker 1>would I be mad? Why would I be happy? Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James is really one of the first best all players

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<v Speaker 1>who I just watch on the court and can have

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<v Speaker 1>an honest opinion. And Niggas is furious, Like every other

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player that I've watched at the highest level had

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of flavor, like Iverson had flavor, so there

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<v Speaker 1>was a reason to be mad at him. The way

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<v Speaker 1>he works, Harry carried himself. Lebron James is like as

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<v Speaker 1>a person, he's just literally the highlights of whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>safe to say, you know, whatever is cool to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it, Like it's it's this this narrow spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>like the like Peter's right, like polarity should be here

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<v Speaker 1>right when I was a kid, because polarity was here,

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<v Speaker 1>Pollarity now is here, like y'all just like, oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>j Cole is edgy. You see how you got at

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<v Speaker 1>that blogger? Like what the fuck? Like you're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>with the black blogger about respect? Yeah, at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when at a time, when you out here marching and

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<v Speaker 1>doing all of this black and power and stuff, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks very contradicted. They largely agree, though largely what did

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<v Speaker 1>the song actually say? Like, what did he say wrong

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>about her in his own Why did he make the song?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't have a conversation with this lady. I'm a rapper. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a conversation with her. I can have

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<v Speaker 1>a music you can have you can you can have

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>her musical conversation rappers, they both rappers? What the fun?

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't called the song to give her the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to respond. Don't just put out a song about HER's

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<v Speaker 1>not you, and she ain't not gonna have the same

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<v Speaker 1>leverage when she wills her response back to you in

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<v Speaker 1>the same manner that you would because you were a

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>top three rapper that exists, Like nah, to build her

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<v Speaker 1>career up. He was picking on her when he could

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<v Speaker 1>have easily hold on No sailings Glasses Malone, my man,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter boss I got my brothers from the who some

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<v Speaker 1>Brew podcast. One of the biggest reasons I decided to

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>be a podcaster t p J. Having Filly was heading.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this is my problem, right, So this just

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<v Speaker 1>to pick back right back up. You're saying that's polarizing

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<v Speaker 1>because j Cole argue with the blogger who's a Twitter

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>blogger about his position and in respect, Dr dre slacked

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the Barnes in the face. But did we see it

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>on Carera We all knew it and seen it, like

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<v Speaker 1>like we're way past that, Like that's where you are

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<v Speaker 1>and this is my points. Unfortunately, that wasn't that polarizing

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. He did it and that was it. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest news. Let me make a point, Let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me make a point, right, But like, but

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't drop ahead. So you say it's safer, right,

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's kind of the narrative, like it's better, it's not.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>There's still a shipload of culture happening right right now.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>There's still a struggle happening. There's still unearthed things that

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<v Speaker 1>have not happened right that, that that's happening right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not receiving coverage because you're talking about j

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<v Speaker 1>Cole arguing with the blogger, or you're talking about Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James saying the exact same narrative that every last person

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<v Speaker 1>in media says, like what happened of flavor? Like how

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>is huh? Or was he not vanilla at the time?

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Though you can look vanilla, Lebron is Michael Jordan's Michael.

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But Michael Jordan is not a polarizing athlete exactly Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James is. That's my whole point. You're missing the point,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like Michael Jordan had way more flavor than Lebron James,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't give two funks about Michael Jordan's like

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we just wore Jordan's shoes even though we Lakers like

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the point though he wasn't. I think the point with

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>very very safe. He was extremely safe. But I think

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>it's always Ron James matter a matter of no, no, no,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>no no no. Michael Jordan ain't safe. Michael Jordan is

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>actually a sellout. To think about Michael, to think about

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan is well this is a little bit different.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But the thing why Jordan for me is this, right,

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Jordan was blessed to be in the area with it

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>wasn't social media. If Jordan was doing the ship that

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>he was doing now, he would be extremely He might

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>get talked about like James Harden in a lot of

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>situations if you go gamble, when you down oh two,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>if you the situation with his dad, polarizing human being

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on the court, He's a polarizing player because the way

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>he gets his offense off right, So I get that,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like the thing he is. How could y'all be so

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>screwed by Mark King? This is my problem? Like, and

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm saying, Like we're in this weird

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>sick ass era where like literally spectrum is here here

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and y'all have narrowed it to here with all this

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>ship going on, all this flavor in the world, the

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>depth of j Cole of polarizing rappers arguing with a

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Twitter blogger like what the fuck are we talking? Like

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like I could never like Lebron James as a human being.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I Am even him going to play overseas was was

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>actually polarizing. Why is that polarizing? Because he took away. Yes,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>it was because he took away opportunities from guys that

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>actually deserved it when he was very hear that, though,

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>care you tell that to a young guy who Mr

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Pete played in the league and did nobody care? They

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>head that. That's in a different area we're talking about nowadays.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not to make a squad fighting to make a

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>EuroLeague team. Jacole want A, you are missing the point

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>about no money. You guys here you average two points

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm out here busting my ass for my whole

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>life to play ball and your malea. You know what,

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I just realized what it is. It's manufactured madness. It's

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>not real. It's manufactured. Somebody told you you should be

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>mad that he's over here playing two basketball games and

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you should be upset because he's taking the job from

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody else. Like that's manufactured man, manufactured, though, bro, You

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody thought of at themselves, Nobody the general public. I

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>thought it was he good enough over there to be

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>taking jobs from real Hooper them two games he played.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, nobody in the barbershop said that until literally

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody on j Cole's team, And you know what, we

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>need to spend this. We need to make it look

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like athletes are mad that he's hooping. That's the problem

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know what actually the problem for me?

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know who's the blame for this whole bronze

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:14.719
<v Speaker 1>sexual error, Bro, Kanye, Ever since my nigga, youa stepped

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>on the scene, Bro, like and this is that for

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>as square as j is, Bro, I love you with

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>all my soul. He's in my top five and he's

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in the real top five. Right. But when I tell

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you the game like it was dope having Kanye West

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>at first, I mean because I think like it was

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like fifty cent that just came out. You mean you

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>have such a other end of this, you know what

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like a Matthew Dr Dre fifty cent. You

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>mean like this ship had been on, like hinging on

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the darkest part of urban culture for a long time

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>with that ship, right, we had the ship right, and

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>then you kind of get this Eddie Winslow perspective that

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>lady got for saying that, could you avoid saying that, no, no, no,

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you got a real Eddie Winslow perspective of hip hop

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>from like Kanye West right where it's like it's musically

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>sonically like excellent. It's it's structured the way records should be.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like everything about it is structured, right, it's it's like brilliant,

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it's sonically great. And then like it worked because at

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that time, I mean really fifty cent that came out

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the year before, So this was like crazy, Like this

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>nigger got shot nine times, he got shot in the face.

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>For me, like he's beaten with the biggest rapper in

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>New York at the time. Like it literally was a

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand things happened. That was like, you know, that was gangs,

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that was that was hip hop before that for a

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of time, you know, at the highest levels. So

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to have a guy come out, you know, that represented

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>another look at urban life. Right, that was a little

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>bit more straight up and down. You know, it was cool.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is it worked because Ya has a

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of flavor, Like yea is super flavor. Like for me,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>everything like about it, whether you like the flavor or not,

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it's flavor. Like that. Nigga is a cultured person. You mean,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>everything about his experience is culture. But the problem is

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:23.959
<v Speaker 1>the offsprings. That's the problem. Like you gotta you gotta remember,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like Kanye is the copy of a copy right. So

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's cool because I can still read it now. It's

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>been twenty years that ship been copy copy, copy, copy, copy,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>copy copy. Now, look at what the funk we're talking about?

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>J Cole, who this do his original copy right? The

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>depth of his polarity comes with him arguing with the

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Twitter blogger. Now. I also said he was one of

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the first rappers to openly just be like, Yo, yeah,

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>we're sick of this ship. Get the funk out of

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>here with that ship, like like you want to see ship?

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>All of this bullshit that he was doing when he

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was going at Drake for all of this time, all

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of the younger generations like, what's your point? Huh? He

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>is Kanye, But that don't mean but that don't mean

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody like it. Without Kanye, Drake wouldn't have a career.

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>That don't mean you have to like the evolution. It's

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>his son. How don't you like your father? A lot

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of them don't A lot of them. That's a weird spot,

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Like Colon is a dope dude. But let's be honest, man, Like,

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>come on, bro, Like that's not He's not Kanye. He's

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>not coaching Kane he's not Kanye. I'm glad he's not Kanye.

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>He's not trying to be Kanye Yah missing the point.

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>He is Kanye. Yeah, he's just not as good. He's

0:34:54.200 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>diet Coke, and Kanye is Coke and Drake is The

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>references are crazy, Drake Pepsi, Drake Pepsi. Genuinely just think

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just a difference in the generation. And I'm telling

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you from a generation where everything was hard, hard, hard hard.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not just that it's not just hard. It's not

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's hard because but the funny party is like the

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>marketing aspect of music and culture is, they don't like

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to focus on the hard things anymore. It's not that

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys are not controlling it, because you're being told

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>by college kids who came through and created blogs. All

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>your influences are squares. They are telling you what to consume.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what's wrong. It's not because life don't have culture anymore.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>It's because who's telling you to listen. It is only

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>listening to this ship because you still gonna play Drake

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>record when the drop. The most people still gonna play

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the new Drake they drop if the algorithm tell me

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>or not if Drake dropping and I hear he dropping,

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna listen to it because the same way Wayne,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>same way with you, way with fantastic, the algorithm. Let

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>me finish, Drake is fantastic. Don't get this ship fucked up.

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James is a fantastic hooper. Don't getting sucked up.

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Ja Cole is a fantastic rapper. None of these niggas

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>are not talented. But the way you niggas fine over them,

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a problem because you've got too much access to

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Bro, It's like you didn't have to say

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>as to whatever the funk they're doing, you can there's

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>no more mystique anymore, exactly what you can easily feel

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 1>a way about what they're doing because you can see

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:43.439
<v Speaker 1>every fucking thing they're doing. Even this is what I'm saying.

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>See it all on the internet. So but listen to

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying until it happened to you, what the

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>funk are they doing in real life that make you

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>give a fun First of all, I don't follow out anybody,

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>not but but people, but people, people just like the ship, Bro,

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:06.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like he tell you, listen watching TV

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 1>before we have phones. I'm not disagreeing manufactur your madness,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Like what about Lebron's James life would make me be like, man,

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that life is the ship? Gee? You know what the RNs. Man,

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you don't see a woman getting dressed

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and you and you see her all done up, you

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>know you didn't see the whole process. You are there

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. You just see the end of products

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're kind of like wild by it. Now with Twitter,

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're seeing her shaver ship. You see in

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>her without the hair hones, seeing all that crap, and

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>they like her more. That means it's something wrong with you.

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>The wrong person in Patty because he don't care. I say, Gus,

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>when when when you see how the cake is baked

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the hell? Then yeah? But but I'm saying,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying, even the trick itself can't geary Like,

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>if you see a magic trick, it kind of takes

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 1>away from the magic for most people, right, But nothing

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>about these niggers is magical. I know, But I disagree

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>with that. Like g braun Bro, you knowing him man

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>since he was sixty years old. Literally, I just I

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>told you they wait, wait, I told you. They put

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a montage up saying he's World Chamber and Michael Jordana

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And if you don't think he's there, straight, straight,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>completely up to that, he's somewhere in the echelon of

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>greatest basketball players ever. They told you from the day

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>he was sixteen he was gonna be that. He's never

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 1>been to jail, never than no real scandals. He's he's, he's, he's,

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>he's went to He did the fucking um. Probably the

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>most polar run thing he did was the uh decision, unfortunately,

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>but the way he did it probably most polar round

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he did. He did that he said the King is

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>coming home in the win. He one came back down

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>three one like he has a storybook career almost he

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 1>came to the lake is a small It wasn't literally,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>it was on Granted I'm not saying, wasn't it. You're

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>missing the point of the story. No, No, you used

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a specific term, a storybook career, storybook career. It's not

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan's storybook career. So was Lebron James. Why they

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>told you he was gonna be When th winded traveling

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to Force Cities, to play basketball becomes the story. We

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all want to live as hoopers these days. Clearly it

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is because these nig That's what I'm telling you. You're

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:31.720
<v Speaker 1>being manufactured. This is manufactured madness. That's never been the story.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But listen, even Jordan's ship manufactured. Make a thing and

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>say I'm back, Go do space jam come back within

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a ring, like say I'm back to the media. He

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>said I'm back to the team. He intended to be back. No, no,

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>they needs in the press. Release the facts to the bulls,

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and the bulls put it out. Come on, you know

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the facts, go get put out. Why you know, how

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the hell else are you gonna tell him? Actually you

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>probably could. Michael Jordan's you live up, Bro, Listen to

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm telling you. What is going on? Bro To

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>where we're in the era, to where half of the spectrum,

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>three quarters of the spectrum, Like this is an error, Bro,

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>where Puff is a bully? Puff was there? Okay, don't okay,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want I don't want to get into this.

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into this, but I don't

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>want to get into the whole puff. I don't want

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to get it to the whole puff thing. But like

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I said before, it's we're talking about things that are

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>generationally just a disconnect, and that's just what it boils

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>down to. Even Puff being a bully now is generationally

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, generationally uh, a disconnect because most of the

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>time when he's quote unquote bullying people, is usually over

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the fact that people to him are overstepping their bounds

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>based upon who he was. And see what Tupac did

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to him at the Sole Train Award time about Tupacs.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>But also yes, but also Puff is more so I

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>think Puffy business practices over time, Granted I don't know

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>if all of them were fair, not not saying that,

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>but the way people look at his business practices is

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest thing about it and make people think

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>he is a bully. And also he's done things like

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>he made the niggas walk to get cheesecake. I mean

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>they did that for the camera that was marketing. Why

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the funk would you walk to get a cheesecake for Puff?

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>This is my point. You went from an era, We

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>went from an era to where like pot and then

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.439
<v Speaker 1>cussing this snick out. They don't he like literally they're

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>saying he's running shout out the Puff because Puff is

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a solid nigga. Like what I'm saying. He's in the

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>car like running because like niggas who was there, Like Yo,

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>he was running because Pop was screaming at him. Right,

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So he's running to an error where two of the

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>rappers we have talked about, he punched one out and

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and and stole on up, choke one out and stolen

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>on the other one. That don't mean he ain't grown

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>since that ship happened. He's older. What that means when

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>when the you know a lot of old nigga back,

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of older motherfucker's that will radomly

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>go off like why do you do that? Niggas with him?

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Because he had a hundred niggas with him. Puff wouldn't

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have pitched the nigga thirty years ago. Puff wouldn't even

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>pinched nobody thirty Like what the funk happened to the spectrum? Like,

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>are y'all letting like flavorless people? Y'all letting flavorless people

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>control the jolks about flavorless people because the niggas got

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but but but to me, some of them niggas have flavor.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Broig think our definition of flavors. Who got flavor? Jake

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>got flavor to me, Bron got flavor to me. Them

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>niggas not coin, but they got flavor to me. You

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>know what this is like you go to a tie

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and then said I want the spicy current. They

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>go tie spicy. You go no, no white people spicy

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like a one. Your generation is white people's place right flavor.

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll be working with his fits. You'll be like,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>looking at this with his fits. I don't be fucking

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>with his fits. The fits are insane, but also the

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>fits are funny. You funk with his doug lit faces

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>when he takes the pigeons. Nah, I don't look a

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>like Zoo Lander. I don't the niken hang out some places?

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Where is the flavor at? Go ahead, go ahead, bead

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>be that guy pavy look looks bro. The nigga sits

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>cour side of games. He'd be at to wrap his games,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>yelling that nigga, So y'all just that enamored with success,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that anybody's successful looks like flavor. Actually, yeah, you have

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. You have a lot of person

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>not me personally. Let heavy take that one. You have

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money and ship looks cool with one

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of his own. When you have a lot of money,

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 1>that ship looks cool. We have no are you right, y'all?

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Just to take anything successful? This ship looks cool. You

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of money, looks cool. Somebody rocking with it.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Nigga got just on George over your George looks cool.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>See glasses are gonna say right now, back when, back

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>in my day, ship was cool with nothing but Dickie's,

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a T shirt and some chucks and Travis Scott has

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a fucking McDonald's meal. G this ship is cool. Who

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the fuck cares a lot of He had niggas around

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>up block for that guy. I wasn't there, but he

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>had niggas around up block for that McDonald's meal. Who

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the fund goes around the block McDonald's. The niggas who

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.919
<v Speaker 1>want the Travis Scott meal. G Oh, that's what I'm saying.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>You know how lane you have to be to wait

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>in line and McDonald's for a fucking Travis Scott meal. Bro.

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree, but niggas love it. There's something wrong with that.

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not wrong what you're missing, the poor thing you're

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>missing the point, like that's what I'm saying to you, like,

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>all somebody has to do is appropriate wealth to you,

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to you to this era. Right Indeed, y'all like, oh

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they're cool, But Ja Cole was cool before he was rich.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>People people actually fun. I mean, I'm sorry I funked

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>with Jay Coole struggle too, because I was from the streets.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>What you mean, you're from the streets but you ain't

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>not but you're not a quoteun Coote street nigga. You

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>still gotta make it out of that motherfucker? Do you

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 1>think about? Was what you melate to most about cold

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>with skill? What you mean faan Ville of safe city?

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you know anything about fair Ville? Gee, I'm asking

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you a question. Do you know where he grew up

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>at in fair Ville? I'm asking you a question. Is

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it a safe city? Is any city in America safe?

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, there's a lot of station Wait wait

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>wait stop that stop that stop there, it's any It's

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>any city in America safe when you're a nigga. No, yes, no,

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>no with that again, I fundamentally don't agree with that.

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So again now he goes to just a just a

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>sheer thought of just being in America. Yep, of struggle.

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>But what's wrong with living your truth though glasses? I

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like you gotta problem with that, Like it's living

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you to live your truth. But if other people live

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>their truth and it's not hood enough or street enough,

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's not suffice enough, what's wrong living their own struggle?

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with Lebron being like the kid of a

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>single mom who used to work two jobs and could

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>barely take care of him. He's survived and took care

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of her. It makes them away from his struggle that

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>he had to go through. Bro, he still had to

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>get here, but still had That's like it doesn't still

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta get he became an alcoholice that we never heard

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 1>from him again. We wouldn't even be talking about dollars.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>You had to get here. He still had to get here.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>He would have dollars, and they would have been talking

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>about how he sucked it away and how nobody, nobody,

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't care nobody, Bro, Like, you still gotta get

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to where you get to. Just because it ain't all

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking guns and glory don't mean that it ain't still

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 1>It's not that far. Listen, It's not that far into

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum. If you want to just listen. Listen, because

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of space from here to the air.

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of space. Like you have narrow the

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>spectrum to hear, there's just here. There's a lot of

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>ship between here. You don't gotta just be deaf and

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>guns can't can't give you the depth of the other

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:50.240
<v Speaker 1>ship of white America has fucking student loans. Okay, because listen, listen,

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and I bet the white Americans more money than the

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>let me finish, ninety percent of America has issues. What

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking student that loan? That's not a black person problem.

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say black people can't have that problem,

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's an American problem. What made hip hop special

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and the reason we subscribe to it, bro, it's because

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about problems that were exclusive to us.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>That's still a US problems, whether you want to acknowledge

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it or not. Generational. But the problem to us coming

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>up exclusive is you know, don't stop because your generation, right,

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the niggas that with the school of your generation tell

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>all their kids, y'all better take your black ass to school,

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and then we wind up stop doing what you're doing.

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Stop now, Stop because you because you ask you're literally

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>missing the key word to make a point instead of listen,

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>listen to that. So you just do what you're trying

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to do. Don't do that. Focus hip hop. We're problems

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>exclusive to our community. I agree that the issue listen listen, no, no, listen,

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>no listen no listen, glasses no glas glasses. In the beginning,

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>it was. But the issue with rap at this point

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>is it's been around for ways or fifty years. You

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>don't get more American hip hop at this point. Again again,

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>so what you're doing is you're about to sell out

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>our fucking shit. It's too late, nigger. You ain't realized

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>that yet. It's your fault. No, it's your phone. Last

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:34.439
<v Speaker 1>time the wait, wait, wait, wait, glad, what question? That's question? Question?

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Last question, question question. So you said it all started

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 1>with Kanye West. So at what point of Kanye West

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>did it start going wrong. It's nothing wrong with Kanye West. Right.

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Kanye West came at a time when hip hop needed

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>him right because he became something right that was so

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>alternative to the normal conversations right of black struggles. Right.

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>It went from like the super left end spectrum right

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of struggle that creates polarity right, this negative life that

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is super left thing, and it brought it to a

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:12.439
<v Speaker 1>middle right where yes there were some white people problem,

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>but he had a good grasp on oppression. He had

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a decent grasp on everything right, even though it struggles

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>were his struggles. Like hip hop, ain't just about everybody

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>struggles time. It's not fish south side. Listen, listen it start.

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not about everybody struggling. Just everybody has a struggle.

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Wealthy people have a struggle. Feel me, But if you're

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 1>telling me the depth of a jewish man getting rich

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is your greatest story of your fucking era. A jewish

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>man getting rich mean not to me, You're missing the point.

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 1>That's the person you are celebrating the loudest because he's wealthy.

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you just said it right now, he's sitting courtside.

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You mean a Jewish man sitting courtside. You mean the

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:11.720
<v Speaker 1>jewish man got money. A mountains have turned, a jewish

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>man got rich, and it's in course side mounains have turned.

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>God has came down off the sky and changed the

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>course of time. Jewish man is wealthy? Who ship Wow,

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe it. That's like a minute being able

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to dump on a tiff court. It never happens. Oh so,

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.839
<v Speaker 1>so Will Smith didn't exist and people didn't call him

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>safe when your generation was coming up. Yes, okay, then

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>so it's been safe people the whole time, permeating the

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>culture generation exactly, So stop trying to throw it on

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>our generation. Act like not, I'm telling it. We just listen, listen, listen.

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It was dope for will Smith, right. So one thing

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that people don't get about wid Smith he was for children, right,

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>So when wid Smith came out was like seven, he

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was for us, right because there was no other music

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>outside of normal grown up wrapped LLL cool J that

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>was for children. So he catered to children, was for

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>children who he didn't make believe like the food we're

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not for to dude, I'm gonna blurt that out. But

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is yes, and it was dopeful for

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>fresh Prince right because nothing else existed like that, Nothing

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>else existed, to be fair, when Drake came out, nothing

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>else it like Drake except literally Kanye. I really no, no,

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 1>HEO like I actually agree with them on that. No, No,

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>listen that point. I didn't relate to Kanye to Drake

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm from Chicago. What the fuck are you? What

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the fund is different about this ship? He talked about

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>women more I'm dead. My favorite Kanye album up to

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that point was Anyway, It's a Heartbreak. You know why

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>because you're bosna be fucking listening to R and B.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't listen to that much R B because they

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>talk about holes all the time. That's what they talked

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>about his relationships. I didn't listen to that much anyway.

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>So what existed before it existed by a whole genre

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>full of motherfucker's relationships, but the nigga was rapping with

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it and then singing on the whole career is built

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>on women. This is true. What do we talk? I

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>don't even make sense. Of course, he's fucking Kanye's son.

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. Ain't a waiting heartbreak? Is their father? Yes?

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I get that? And what did I just say? Eight

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>A Waits was my favorite? Was what really introduced me

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to Kanye West before then I wasn't I again? You

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking with somebody is not God? Damn it? What happened? Bro?

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And what's happening? Is I see it coming? I see

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it coming a mile away. It happened with rock and roll.

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I agree with that Regga two

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 1>because I mean the white happening, you know, I was

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you happen. I agree with right. I agree with that

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a kinny G. Carlo was the kinny G of

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>hip hop. It's coming. I agree with that. Fucking fault

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Vanilla Ice existed, eminem existed. What the they're literally you're

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about anomalies. I'm talking about great marketing. No, I'm

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:49.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about No, this is about talented people. He's talented

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to I don't Jack Carlo, and I don't job, and

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't consume Jack Carlo's music. It's not about Jack Carlo.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to argue again again again. Listen,

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no personal steak and there's no personal staking talent. Bro,

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I'm saying, Tim, All of these people

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>were talking about our talented people. Yeah, I agree with that.

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, when did the fucking chicken lose the seasoning?

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Like all the chicken like yo, California California Kitchen is good,

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 1>like like yes, Kentucky Fried Chicken sells fried chicken. Yeah,

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>but they don't sell murdering guns and say you're missing

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the point. You heard about the cholesterol problems. Yes, but

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 1>but they don't. But that ain't got rid chicken. Listen,

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>fried Chicken is so full, But that don't mean Kentucky

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Fried Chicken sells soul fool who was the last biggest

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>rapper to talk about killing people in their music for

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the men? Stop doing that to your question not just spectrum.

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you a question. I'm specifically what you're doing.

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>You're reducing it down to I'm saying you're marketing the

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>mainstream America, and you won't marry j Bliss to do

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 1>chicken commercials and rappers to do chicken commercials. You will

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.879
<v Speaker 1>pick the safest ones so that way they can market

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>their product to your audience. Fucking sellout. It's not that

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not about it being a sellout. Nor it's not

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of how is it when these problems

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>still exists. It's not about being a sellout because the

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:31.879
<v Speaker 1>culture sold out decades ago when well, we we gave

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>all our ship away to the white people, and we say,

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>telling out, what do we all? What do we have? Nothing?

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Other than that, it's complaining about their royalties because the

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Vivendi family own it. Bro Rock Nation, Rocket Feller was

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>not sold out like death Row is not sold out,

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like Rufus is not. So what do you that's not

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>true what you're doing. Isabel was still taking checks from

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.839
<v Speaker 1>the white man and were talking from the white man.

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You gotta listen to what the white man telling you

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to do. And if he's say, nigga, stopped talking about

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:08.240
<v Speaker 1>killing niggas, so I can put you in this commercial

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna give you a million dollars that they're

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna shoot his ass up, and he's gonna start rapp

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>about melodies and women and wearing jewelry. And that's what

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot of times. That's not that's probably Travis

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Scott music is probably more violent than every other music.

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It's tons of violent, it's tons of races, attitude, it's

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the people that's on his songs. It's not it's not

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>whol culture of what he talks about is racing and

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>not violently. That's not violently And saying I'm an elbow

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you when we get to my concert is not being

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>future whole. Music is about being a drug. And so

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>was Rick James. So was Press talking about this ship

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and missing the point. You're making my point. So the

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>trauma exists still because Future is that ship, that's flavor,

0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that's flat. You're missing the point because you just wanted

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to bate it because you don't want to be on it.

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is the brond sexual niggas. Future is Flavor,

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>but Future also speak out of drake and work with

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a drake. So explain to me why this ship happens

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the same reason run dm C works with Aerosmith, the

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>same reason if somebody could work with mcdonnad. It's not

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.440
<v Speaker 1>about them working with them, but when they become the

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>representation of you and your struggle. You were complicit in that.

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>When you when you walk this way and you was

0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>complicit in and when you hate that song I hate Nellie,

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about talking about running see you was

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna listen and creating this sellout culture when you may

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:47.919
<v Speaker 1>walk this way, all these we understood. No white dudes

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and hip hop, No, we don't care about white dudes.

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It it's not about white dudes and hip hop is

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the problem. It's the problem when you start allowing the

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>culture to shift into a place to where the majority

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>of it doesn't represent our problems right from the urban

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 1>street corners. Right, that's exclusive to the ship we're going to.

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 1>When you start making the depth of your struggle as

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a rapper, college loans, being accused of stealing pants, right,

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a Jewish man who gets rich, that's the depth. I

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>just think the death you don't. I just think you

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>don't consume think that was the full depth of of

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Coal and kind story. That wasn't the full depth of Drake.

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>He was like somebody being from Canada who had a

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>who was mixed, who had um a white mother, who

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>came to career. Is I'm a Disney Channel actor who

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of money and I tricked it off

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram models. That's the depth of this whole story.

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't try to make that ship. And that's my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He traveled to America, he has a Jewish mother, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a child star actor. But but listen, I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why Drake is not fully accepted in hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop the same way like let's say Kendrick Is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a hip hop artist. He's an artist who raps. Yeah,

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's fully accepted in hip hop, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think I feel you as far as rap

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<v Speaker 1>Um getting less away from his roots. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with that, like I said earlier, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>around fifty years. It is an American. That's not why

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it's getting away though American. Listen, you're not finding mixed things.

1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 1>That's further than the culture. You're finding things the same

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.959
<v Speaker 1>things that other garmers went to too. When you stop

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<v Speaker 1>allowing flavor to represent it, right, you're again the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about hip hop that they didn't used to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what to listen to. Like, you literally go to the

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<v Speaker 1>urban record store and some nigga like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>funk with this nigga. Right, So the closest marketing could

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<v Speaker 1>happen could be the record retail person or the one

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<v Speaker 1>stopped telling the record guy, hey pushed this record. If

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<v Speaker 1>you pushed this many units, I think you still got

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<v Speaker 1>that though. No, what you have now is since the

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<v Speaker 1>blog error started shout out to the homies is a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of college kids telling you what's hip hop? Playlisting

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<v Speaker 1>college kids telling you what's hip hop. And the college

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<v Speaker 1>kids was doing that too. They were just working at

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<v Speaker 1>the record labels in the marketing and sales departments. They

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<v Speaker 1>were yes, they were had records. No, you wasn't. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>step also had deaf jam was corny white dudes and

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<v Speaker 1>college that team though with some black dudes. They Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons is deaf jam. So who did business with Rubin?

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<v Speaker 1>What you're missing that there was white nerdy college kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not white. I'm telling you. They didn't shake the

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<v Speaker 1>complete coach. They're shaping your culture completely. They're helping lie

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<v Speaker 1>in your pocket so you can go a market and

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<v Speaker 1>exude what they're not helping line your pockets. They're writing

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<v Speaker 1>you out of the same thing that they wrote every

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<v Speaker 1>last other motherfucking person out of. This won't be ours,

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, it's inevitable. And I'm asking you based on

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<v Speaker 1>this era. And it's not lebron fault. It's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>I've never you know, Michael Jordan's for being vanilla. So

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<v Speaker 1>so when a guy like Lebron come along, what does

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron and Michael Jordan have to do with it? You're

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<v Speaker 1>missing the point of what I'm saying. In the previous generation,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not blaming I'm not blaming Lebron. I'm blaming fans

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<v Speaker 1>of Lebron who grew up on Lebron I'm blaming the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you can micro managed market complete stories polarity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my point. Lebron is a symptom, not the disease.

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<v Speaker 1>People blame Lebron. It's not lebron fault. He's not before see,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the point. I never blamed Lebron. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>We agreed on the language and I meant it in

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<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite meetings, and I think I never blamed Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Lebron's fault. It's your fault, not yours. But

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<v Speaker 1>you say he's safe, and when you say, we say

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<v Speaker 1>he's controversial, so you are kind of blaming him by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blaming y'all for because you don't fucking know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a manufactured controversy from the people around him. Goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to what Path said, success. How do you frame success

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<v Speaker 1>with flavor? That's the problem. That's the problem with hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's trying to market wealth. So because that's all you

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy now, not even that fucking poor, you've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always market wealth and rap. We've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>always marketed. We have always has always been no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>always been a side that kind of marketed wealth or

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<v Speaker 1>like or like money being some level of a status symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand Rockefeller's whole marketing was wealthy, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>market as well. Yeah, some niggas. Why I worked, you

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<v Speaker 1>know why? It was dope, bad way to market wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different. You know why. You know why I worked

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a bunch of fucking niggas from Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>and Harlem trying to get rich. Yeah, that's why it

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<v Speaker 1>was the struggle, trying to overcome the struggle. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to market themselves into position, not a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of niggas who should be rich getting rich. If the

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<v Speaker 1>song how you still gonna play it though? Every time?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time, but all I'm saying it's not. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep That's why I stayed early on. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about talent. They were talented people the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>They just didn't represent the culture as the front. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, bro, like this is what I'm saying, Like

1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, this is what you're saying. You're saying this

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<v Speaker 1>Niga is so polarizing. That's crazy, and I just polarizing.

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<v Speaker 1>He is polarizing. He's a polar He's not like on

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of one to ten, it's probably a five.

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<v Speaker 1>On the scale one of team, he's a three. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's polarizing his fucking fanatics. That's the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this conversation. It's not Bron Bron straight up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see when the brin gonna do before you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I told you what he's gonna do in

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<v Speaker 1>this season as a basketball player. I got him down

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<v Speaker 1>from the first to the last day. Easy nothing. Aboudium says,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's gonna happen. He's almost too easy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually too easy to know what's gonna happen. His

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<v Speaker 1>fan base is unfucking believable. Y'all got to be the

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<v Speaker 1>most polarizing motherfucker's breathing air because he raised people. He's

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<v Speaker 1>so much a part of people's lives. I'm not disagreeing

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<v Speaker 1>athletes were a part of all our lives. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty four hours. Actress was Eddie murpht was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my life. But you got twenty four hour

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<v Speaker 1>access to these people or some people that don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have anything going on twenty four hours. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like they're doing some ship that's polarizing disconnect to

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<v Speaker 1>you to back to back drop at four o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, I could got killed. You know why, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of the most polarizing moments and hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop in his career. I agree, don't have polarizing I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that. Just wake up early in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>all the time to push your T shirt. Like listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even follow Drake on any social media. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't because I know you. I don't follow no

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<v Speaker 1>slaves only social media because I don't care. But then

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<v Speaker 1>how did I get it? Like I remember somebody was tweeted, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake bed eight thousand dollars on the fucking Duke game

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<v Speaker 1>because people love fucking sports betting, so they see Drake

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<v Speaker 1>putting eight thousand dollars on the dude game, me a game.

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<v Speaker 1>People love that ship. They eat it up. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why would they eat it up. I'm telling you what, Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>When the nigga said, fucking don't be a player, be

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<v Speaker 1>a player, lame is hell? People ate it the funk up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting to people. You know why? I interested? You

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<v Speaker 1>know why it's interesting to those people? Why? Because they're

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<v Speaker 1>fucking lane. That's you just said it like I saw that,

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<v Speaker 1>But people like that, what that said? What ron bergne is?

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed at it. I thought it was a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed at it. And next people are like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't be player, be player. I'm like, yo, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how little flavor is acquired for people to have to

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<v Speaker 1>choke down the meat these days. Exactly like that killing

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<v Speaker 1>me man, I don't know people like that. Ship. Good

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