Speaker 1: Welcome back to those amigos.
Speaker 2: I Wilmer Valderama and I am Freddie Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: That's what and uh and today we officially are three amigos.
Speaker 3: Welcome named back.
Speaker 1: Are our brother for gret so for Grace in the house? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you man?
Speaker 4: Were you and can Harley?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 4: I was, yeah, okay, please cut all this out, man.
Speaker 4: If this is where that group of knuckleheads I was
Speaker 4: friends with in college who Wilmer's met a couple of them.
Speaker 4: Another Dare situation was we snuck into the oscars because
Speaker 4: the shrine auditorium where the oscars used to happen was
Speaker 4: right across the street from our dorm, Harnerment, and so
Speaker 4: we rented. Like I'm drinking looking down on it, We're like,
Speaker 4: I bet we could just like take a limo and
Speaker 4: just drive into that tomorrow. This is pre nine eleven city. God,
Speaker 4: So we rented it. We called a limo place, and
Speaker 4: they're like, no, the limos are all booked, it's the Oscar.
Speaker 4: But I was like, give me a hundred bucks, I'll
Speaker 4: come around the block and pick you up. And so
Speaker 4: we went and rented uh like tuxedos. No, we didn't
Speaker 4: have enough money for tuxedos. We rented bow ties and
Speaker 4: then wore black jackets and black pants got in this.
Speaker 4: It turns out, by the way, it was like whoever's
Speaker 4: limo it was had their credentials in it. So it's
Speaker 4: like Nicole Kimmon took it there, it had hurt credentials.
Speaker 4: So we came around and got us. So we got
Speaker 4: through the barricade, no way. We just walked out the
Speaker 4: red carpet. We were waving and everyone everyone was like
Speaker 4: kind of like, who's that. Like, we just I we
Speaker 4: had a roll you know those roll up cameras and we're
Speaker 4: taking pictures of ourselves and anyway, oh, we were doing
Speaker 4: crazy stuff like that. We just sat and watch like
Speaker 4: you know, Matt and ben Wan and Titanic wait so
Speaker 4: in oh, yeah, the whole the audience is only seed fillers,
Speaker 4: Like it's only the first five rows that have the
Speaker 4: biggest stars in the world. And then you know it's
Speaker 4: so we were I was like sitting behind and share
Speaker 4: and like I remember I took a piss next to
Speaker 4: Gregory Peck because he was like at the urinal next
Speaker 4: to me. That's some crazy story. So we were like
Speaker 4: Hollywood's fun, and I didn't feel like, you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't think I was ever gonna work here and the other.
Speaker 1: Get in trouble for something like that, like what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you gonna do? You know, jail for
Speaker 4: they could kick us out of the thing. You'd love it.
Speaker 4: When a guy insecurity came up to us at one
Speaker 4: point and was like like, who are you And as
Speaker 4: he did, I just started yelling at one of the
Speaker 4: other guys like he was my assistant. And the guy
Speaker 4: left because he was like this was embarrassing. Like I
Speaker 4: was like, no, we can get him to me now, No,
Speaker 4: your job is to get and he was like all right,
Speaker 4: he just left, all right, kept hanging out. But then
Speaker 4: we we maybe because of that, we started calling you
Speaker 4: remember Daily Ridy used to have the productions that were
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the course, so we're like.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Jennifer love youew it's starring in this
Speaker 4: movie called The Party.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was called the Party.
Speaker 4: That sounds like we all just seem uh, I know,
Speaker 4: she's last summer or whatever. She'm like, let's go to that.
Speaker 4: So we called the producer. I mean, really, don't include
Speaker 4: this if this is too boring.
Speaker 1: No, this is like you're the best part of the buck.
Speaker 4: And we were like, my friend came up with this.
Speaker 4: He called up and he goes, Hi, who's this. She
Speaker 4: goes Susie, who's this? And he hung up on her
Speaker 4: and then he called back like half an hour and
Speaker 4: he goes, Hi, Susie's Chris from Jim Browner's office at Universal.
Speaker 4: She's like, Hi. There was no internet, so you couldn't
Speaker 4: like look at He's like, so to for Grace and
Speaker 4: his friends are going to be I want to come
Speaker 4: down to the set. You know, he's John Grace's son,
Speaker 4: which but not a lie, but John Grace is just
Speaker 4: my dad wasn't kidding it. So uh, he wants to
Speaker 4: come by to the set and say hi to the cast,
Speaker 4: and like, all right, we'll leave some passes for him.
Speaker 4: So we just went where where were you? Shue I
Speaker 4: was and some warehouse and like way out of the middle.
Speaker 2: No, oh, we dude, we shot where you guys shoot
Speaker 2: the CBO's record. No, and santel Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 4: We had to take a long like we almost went
Speaker 4: broke on the top ride there. We got there, we
Speaker 4: walked in and everyone was there. I was like, this
Speaker 4: was We definitely picked the rest. So we hung out
Speaker 4: for a day. I don't think we met, but if
Speaker 4: you saw some like, you know, preppy, young idiot just
Speaker 4: hanging out by the monitors, like looking around, So.
Speaker 1: Who'd you get to see?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: You were there?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: She loved? Was she?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love?
Speaker 4: Was like, Hi? We saw who else? I think Jerry
Speaker 4: O'Connell was there that day?
Speaker 1: Oh, Jerry, Yeah?
Speaker 4: And who else?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Jamie and Jamie Presley we're on like hello.
Speaker 1: And Seth Green was probably somewhere in there.
Speaker 4: Seth was probably there. Yeah, yeah, which is funny because like, now.
Speaker 1: Did you ever tell him that story? Sam Green?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I shouldn't tell him that. I don't
Speaker 4: know why. I just thought I think I remembered you
Speaker 4: were in because then we went to see the movie,
Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, Like Hollywood's fun.
Speaker 3: So so for Grays, when it comes to working with
Speaker 3: direct who did you feel you learn from the most?
Speaker 4: Well? Number one be David Trainer. And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: that because you're David directed every single episode of that
Speaker 4: seven show, which is very rare in a sitcom, and
Speaker 4: I maintain I told him this we would lunch. Recently,
Speaker 4: I was like, if you had been sick one day,
Speaker 4: if he'd missed one day of that show, the show
Speaker 4: would have fallen above. But he knew us all before
Speaker 4: it happened, and he knew how to kind of wrangle everyone,
Speaker 4: and he was he's kind of stage guy, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: he comes from the theater, and he actually pushed me
Speaker 4: to do theater, which I did, and he actually, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you know when I did that play,
Speaker 4: I mean you came to see it. He flew to
Speaker 4: New York to see it was like just wonderful. So
Speaker 4: the most from him, and I could tell you one
Speaker 4: hundred separate things that he taught me besides just decorum
Speaker 4: and how to act on a set. Winner and then
Speaker 4: after that I would.
Speaker 1: Say, I mean you had you Sam Rammy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: funny with Christopher.
Speaker 4: Soberg Spike Lee, but but specifically with Sodaberg expect Lee.
Speaker 4: They say very little, so I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think they trust their castings.
Speaker 4: We're just like, if I want to be a director,
Speaker 4: I think I can learn a lot from them. As
Speaker 4: an actor. You're kind of like very appreciative yours. They
Speaker 4: just like they I think it's because Stephen comes from
Speaker 4: documentary filmmaking. So I remember one time asking him because
Speaker 4: I was used to getting more direction than he was
Speaker 4: giving me, which is zero, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: I mean he was walking around with the camera filming
Speaker 4: it different ways. I'd say like, hey, do you want
Speaker 4: me to do you have any direction for me? Or
Speaker 4: do you want me to do it this way? And
Speaker 4: he went, oh, I don't know. It's such a great
Speaker 4: answer because it's true. He's like, I don't want to
Speaker 4: put my fingerprints on your So those guys I admire
Speaker 4: a lot, and their films are amazing, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I did learn something about trust and trusting
Speaker 4: your teammates. But they're so do your own thing. They
Speaker 4: don't do a lot of takes. And Chris Nolan's like
Speaker 4: that too. I had a small role in Interstellar, but
Speaker 4: he did like you think he does like one hundred
Speaker 4: takes because films are so precise, but he's so precise
Speaker 4: that he only does like one or two.
Speaker 2: Wow, And does he did you get a lot of
Speaker 2: direction from him?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, No.
Speaker 4: I think mostly what I've learned from them is that
Speaker 4: the masters and I'm sure This is true for people
Speaker 4: who were masters before I started working that they they
Speaker 4: are so dialed in and know what they want that
Speaker 4: like production is not an afterthought, but it's like they've
Speaker 4: figured it all out. You're the person who is supposed
Speaker 4: to be playing the role. This is the person supposed
Speaker 4: to doing wardrobe, and it's almost like I think an exercise.
Speaker 4: They could take themselves out of it almost a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know what I worked with who I really loved
Speaker 4: who was like that is Curtis Hansen. He passed, but
Speaker 4: he did like La Confidential eight mile and stuff, and
Speaker 4: he's he did too big to fail, and he he
Speaker 4: was like that. He was like he didn't want to tell.
Speaker 4: He was like overseeing the process to make sure no
Speaker 4: one interfered with anyone and everyone did their best work.
Speaker 4: And then you watch the thing and you go, right,
Speaker 4: just brilliant. I'll Spike, it's amazing. The other thing I've
Speaker 4: learned from all those guys that I just mentioned, they're
Speaker 4: all really fun. You think they're serious, especially Chris, probably
Speaker 4: because you know his films are so serious and Spike
Speaker 4: maybe you'd think is serious, but they are like you're
Speaker 4: having a blast, Like the energy is always at like
Speaker 4: seventy two degrees with you know, thirty percent chance. It's
Speaker 4: like always like it I'm perfect. They never let it dip.
Speaker 4: They also don't let it get too crazy. Like it's
Speaker 4: just they're kind of masters of what the tone is.
Speaker 4: And I love, love working with those guys. I mean,
Speaker 4: and you're not you guys have worked with directors like this.
Speaker 4: You're not just excited to work with them because you
Speaker 4: think the film's gonna be a hit. It truly is
Speaker 4: like if the film were never to come out. It's
Speaker 4: truly a great experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends were in the Odyssey, right,
Speaker 3: not shooting that's going to be a very challenging shoot.
Speaker 1: For what I hear, it's like pretty challenging. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, the scope of it right, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about four thousand.
Speaker 4: But said, I'm telling you, he's a funny guy, Like
Speaker 4: I had a lot of laughs with him, like you would.
Speaker 4: You would love him, like you guys would really get along.
Speaker 4: And it's like they always make sure, you know, it's
Speaker 4: like they take it so seriously and then they don't
Speaker 4: take it too seriously, which is kind of great. Actors too.
Speaker 5: I think maybe well he's.
Speaker 3: He's like he has the perfect scenario. He can ask
Speaker 3: studio give me three hundred million dollars and then yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like so he's like, you know how
Speaker 3: back at it being when you're on said with him,
Speaker 3: it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: I do feel, you know.
Speaker 3: I remember doing Fast Nation with Richard Ling later and
Speaker 3: he he was also.
Speaker 4: That I die to work with him.
Speaker 3: He was so yeah, but then he would just like
Speaker 3: it was a vibe.
Speaker 1: You know, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: You know, he come in and he he'd be like
Speaker 3: Wilmer for you, it's like like why not first time everything?
Speaker 1: Do it again?
Speaker 3: And like you go back and then he's like action
Speaker 3: and then he say cut and he'll be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like so, like you said, dude, it's a vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the best director is they know that the
Speaker 4: whole thing is depending on like the floor.
Speaker 3: They're they're like it's an orchestra, right, Like they're just
Speaker 3: like pulling here, pushing there, you know, and and it's
Speaker 3: he's letting it move on its own, but he's like
Speaker 3: just guiding it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tarantino was like that I did. I did a
Speaker 2: movie called Grindhouse. Who was Robert Rodriguez.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me he doesn't talk a lot though, Quinn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: don't tell me. He's like the silent No.
Speaker 1: No, man, No, he's.
Speaker 2: You know he what you see is what you yet
Speaker 2: you know, like like he wears his heart on his sleeve.
Speaker 1: Was so gracious and nice to me.
Speaker 2: Well, he I starred in Roberts Have but there were
Speaker 2: supposed to be two movies that we were shooting back
Speaker 2: to back. But he was there during the whole experience and.
Speaker 1: Direct because he was a feature.
Speaker 4: It was a double feature, but he was doing he
Speaker 4: was directing what the unit on.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's so so. Our movie was called Planetarror.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but but he was doing his own thing correct.
Speaker 2: But he was just there like while we were shooting
Speaker 2: our thing, because he just wanted to be part of
Speaker 2: the experience. And there'll be times that Robert will be like, hey, Quentin,
Speaker 2: just direct the scene. Man, I'm gonna go like step
Speaker 2: in and direct the scene. You know, great, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but but you see the genius.
Speaker 1: Man, it's unexplainable.
Speaker 2: He's he's a library of film Uh, and it's so
Speaker 2: like effortless, but you just you feel the genius just
Speaker 2: not them.
Speaker 1: It's it's so effortless.
Speaker 4: If he gives you a lot of stuff to think about,
Speaker 4: is that difficult?
Speaker 1: No? Did he give me a lot of.
Speaker 4: Stuff like when he comes up to you in between.
Speaker 2: No, he's just very instinctual, you know. You know, you
Speaker 2: never like went the film score anything. He's all instinct,
Speaker 2: you know. So if you're doing a scene, like it's
Speaker 2: all about his instinct and he's like, no, do it
Speaker 2: a little more this way, a little that way. But
Speaker 2: you but you feel that it's coming from a from
Speaker 2: a place that is so seeped in like film history,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 4: Coming pure love, like pure love, totally totally.
Speaker 2: But I worked with the Hughes brothers. I think we
Speaker 2: had this conversation at dinner.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I did a movie called Dead Presidents with those guys,
Speaker 2: and probably out of all of the directors I ever
Speaker 2: worked with, I learned the most from them because and
Speaker 2: I think maybe this had to do we're so young
Speaker 2: at the time and uh, like we had like a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks of rehearsal before we shot the movie,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't even like rehearsal, really like rehearsing scenes.
Speaker 2: But every night we would sit down and watch a
Speaker 2: movie and they would tell us why a movie was
Speaker 2: good and why it wasn't, why a performance was good
Speaker 2: and why it wasn't. It was like the best film
Speaker 2: school I'd ever wold, and they were so gracious.
Speaker 1: With that knowledge and with their time.
Speaker 3: You know, So do you think your transition into a
Speaker 3: director at some point?
Speaker 4: I think you'd be such a good director.
Speaker 3: Because because you know, I know, we in some of
Speaker 3: our notes that our producers are here gracefully.
Speaker 1: Really really worked hard on it.
Speaker 3: We're talking about home economics, because you were almost every
Speaker 3: possible had you could think of, from the editing room
Speaker 3: to the writer's room to.
Speaker 4: I was in the writer's room, but you know, but
Speaker 4: you you had you create that. No, it was a
Speaker 4: great script that I read that I loved, and everyone
Speaker 4: was nice enough to really let me be a part.
Speaker 4: You know those things what they say, we want you
Speaker 4: to be a producer, but then they're kind of like
Speaker 4: but not really right. But these guys were in order
Speaker 4: for you to say yes, yeah, exactly. But they were
Speaker 4: awesome and I got to participate as much as I
Speaker 4: wanted to. I kind of didn't want to go into
Speaker 4: the writer's room because I thought they were so talented
Speaker 4: and it was very funny. I love that show and Carla.
Speaker 4: Carla is amazing. I really loved working I mean I
Speaker 4: love working with everyone on that show.
Speaker 1: You love working with her more than you working with.
Speaker 4: Me, i'd say, by double or triple.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's a lot. Like just putting you guys
Speaker 4: in that instantly sweat right now, thinking about both of
Speaker 4: you guys in my mind, I go like, how are
Speaker 4: you even acting?
Speaker 3: But you wore so many hats, right, So I was wondering,
Speaker 3: why haven't you thought that directing is something because you
Speaker 3: think about all the details and you pay attention.
Speaker 1: To all that.
Speaker 4: That's very kind you to say, I.
Speaker 1: It's very kind.
Speaker 4: Made a little too kind, a little, I might just
Speaker 4: take it back. I feel like I don't have a
Speaker 4: visual sense, Like when I'm reading a script, I'm whenever
Speaker 4: I go on set, I'm like, oh, that's a better idea.
Speaker 4: Like my idea of how to shoot it is like
Speaker 4: the wrong idea, and the directors.
Speaker 3: Grab an amazing DP right, who knows how to put
Speaker 3: the lenses where you need to need them. You could
Speaker 3: really guide a total innovative story.
Speaker 4: Well I would. I would work for you if you
Speaker 4: were directing something. But I for me, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: feel like a jack of all trades, like I really have.
Speaker 4: I feel like I had a natural skill at acting,
Speaker 4: you know, proved by the fact that I ever acted,
Speaker 4: and then I got the show and so I'm very
Speaker 4: happy to do that and love it. And then I've
Speaker 4: loved educating myself about editing more, educating myself about you know,
Speaker 4: writing without I've never written anything but I that I've shared,
Speaker 4: but but I want to know as much about all
Speaker 4: the other what everyone else does. So I when I'm
Speaker 4: in the editing room, like I've never edited, uh something
Speaker 4: that I've been in. But when I'm in the editing room,
Speaker 4: I don't make an ass out of myself, you know,
Speaker 4: I kind of understand what that is. And when I'm
Speaker 4: if I were to go to the writer's room, I
Speaker 4: don't think i'd say something that people are going, oh
Speaker 4: my god, this guy is an actor. So that's my
Speaker 4: goal and it's and it's fun to learn stuff that's around,
Speaker 4: you know, I think it makes you a better actor.
Speaker 4: If you learn about all that stuff, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: editing for me has been amazing because I I used
Speaker 4: to do a lot of the same take over and
Speaker 4: over again, and now I do just crazy different takes.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean you're trying to get that one choice right,
Speaker 1: Well I get.
Speaker 4: The editor of five of the same options, right, and
Speaker 4: now I do a lot of difference.
Speaker 3: So speaking of editing, yeah, right, perfect, We think it's over.
Speaker 1: I don't even know I even know how you did it,
Speaker 1: but we really wanted to talk to you about the
Speaker 1: Star Wars situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how did this get blown in the out of proportion?
Speaker 1: But let me let me also say a couple of things.
Speaker 3: One of the biggest bonding moments for us is that
Speaker 3: we love the same movies too, right, So like Back
Speaker 3: to the Future, Jeraccid Park, right, you know, Star Wars,
Speaker 3: Like we were really into these you know, larger than
Speaker 3: life ideas.
Speaker 4: Home were I insed to have a game on set.
Speaker 4: It's kind of just kids who grew up in the
Speaker 4: eighties game where I'd say to him, like the game was,
Speaker 4: you say to the other person, where's he going? And
Speaker 4: the other person says home? So team me up, say
Speaker 4: where is he going?
Speaker 1: Where's he going.
Speaker 4: Home? And we do that for hours, and the posites
Speaker 4: would go so long and so corny whatever, But that
Speaker 4: was because we grew up watching all the same females.
Speaker 4: Where's he going?
Speaker 1: We should have gone a long time again.
Speaker 5: That you changed?
Speaker 4: Oh man, we had this.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that was like that. That was the ending to the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also thought, like, what if at the end
Speaker 3: of seventies show that vised cruiser or like the minivan
Speaker 3: or whatever, just to cough up.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: It was what FS was never from from.
Speaker 3: Somebody like Jackie or somebody goes, Where's where's fans going?
Speaker 1: He's going home? Starting the show was just so bizarre. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that would have been an epic And I.
Speaker 4: Hope everyone just saw it. That's what we were doing,
Speaker 4: literally hours and hours.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, were you asking a qu We were asking a
Speaker 4: question or something. I'm sorry, well.
Speaker 2: You brought up editing and and and I was I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, but you all were explaining it to
Speaker 2: me that you and maybe you can.
Speaker 1: Explain so he do chronologically.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's what happened. I produced a film. Another thing
Speaker 4: I loved learning about was also it's just great. How
Speaker 4: you start to realize acting acting and actors are such
Speaker 4: a small part of the process, you know. I started realizing,
Speaker 4: like I was, what's going on in post? Like why
Speaker 4: is it taking them so long? Like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like we shot the movie, put it in order,
Speaker 4: and when I went into post, I made such an
Speaker 4: ass out of myself. I gave such terrible notes and
Speaker 4: I still am so regretful about it. So I bought
Speaker 4: an avid and I hired someone to tutor me how
Speaker 4: to cut things myself, not to cut things. I was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I went on eBay and figured it out. And the
Speaker 4: show when ended and we had the time, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to learn just you know, there's that rainbow keyboard
Speaker 4: that you're and the ball and I didn't know how
Speaker 4: to use any of it. And I learned it all.
Speaker 4: And the way I learned was I first took a
Speaker 4: tonement you remember film James McAvoy and I I had
Speaker 4: an idea about how there's these flashbacks that happened right after,
Speaker 4: and I was like, wait, you could reorder it and
Speaker 4: go to the present and do it all. So it
Speaker 4: was like a forty minute short film that people I've
Speaker 4: showed people who hadn't watched a toement. They were like,
Speaker 4: that's good. I mean it was totally different, like they
Speaker 4: lived in the ending and had a happy end. Oh totally.
Speaker 4: But people like that's a good like short, but why
Speaker 4: is it forty minutes. It's like, I got to find
Speaker 4: something that's really long. And I do love Star Wars,
Speaker 4: and so I took. I wasn't so hot on the prequels,
Speaker 4: so I took the new three films. They didn't have
Speaker 4: the jj Abrams ones out yet, so it's just these
Speaker 4: ones with Natalie Portman, and I put them back to
Speaker 4: back to back and inserted all the outtakes because the
Speaker 4: outtakes have all the effects done in them because it
Speaker 4: would just be them on a green screen. So it's
Speaker 4: like nine and a half hour long movie. And I
Speaker 4: just whittled it as I'm learning to edit, whittled into
Speaker 4: like a hour and a half. And there's kind of
Speaker 4: within that trilogy, there's one actually a good movie. Yeah
Speaker 4: that's the problem, but it was and I showed it
Speaker 4: one time, but there was a blogger in the audience,
Speaker 4: so it really blew up.
Speaker 1: You know, I never went to the space you had
Speaker 1: a screen.
Speaker 4: Screening at the Soow House. It was like, you know,
Speaker 4: one hundred people and people were going insane. I ended
Speaker 4: it a more fun part. I think, like right when
Speaker 4: that mask is coming on and I but people were
Speaker 4: really going nuts. And then I did a couple of
Speaker 4: times we did Close Encounters, which is a lot of
Speaker 4: different version of that movie, and we did with the Hobbit.
Speaker 4: But it was and I was doing with friends were
Speaker 4: doing it too, so it was like a bunch of
Speaker 4: people I know who cut And it was again I
Speaker 4: don't ever want to cut, especially the future directors I
Speaker 4: work with. I never want to cut anything I'm on.
Speaker 4: But it was just informative to me how the process works.
Speaker 1: But that I mean, it's epic. By the way, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of foots.
Speaker 5: To go through.
Speaker 3: How did you It's the music and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: like the cues and music.
Speaker 1: CU's hard.
Speaker 4: There's a way to we just cutting per scenes or
Speaker 4: now you get you can strip the music out by
Speaker 4: going onto like different channels and oh it's boring, sneaky grace.
Speaker 2: So it was like an exercise in editing more than
Speaker 2: anything to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll be honest, if I took it out now,
Speaker 4: it's probably not even so good. But I think it
Speaker 4: was that Star Wars had no one knew there was
Speaker 4: ever going to be another one, so it felt like
Speaker 4: it was over and there was oh, there's like a
Speaker 4: new one kind of right now, there's enough Star Wars material.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think you should consider directing.
Speaker 4: You'd be surprised, but I'll edit your film that you direct.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty awesome. What is that credit going
Speaker 1: up there? You know, but that's your passion.
Speaker 2: I hear Giovanni Ribisi is a DP.
Speaker 4: Apparently it's incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, were you?
Speaker 1: I mean you directed before?
Speaker 2: I have not, not on a major level like that.
Speaker 2: I got really passionate about producing, you know. I love
Speaker 2: like to me is like a puzzle, you know, and
Speaker 2: I love like putting the puzzle together. And I think
Speaker 2: I have good instincts and so like having the instinct
Speaker 2: to go that that guy should be the director, that
Speaker 2: guy should be you know, like I just I go
Speaker 2: off of instinct and feel, and I think I'm all
Speaker 2: right at it.
Speaker 4: You know what I started loving when I got into
Speaker 4: producing is that clearances.
Speaker 1: Clearances, like really getting into.
Speaker 4: The nitty gritty of clearing something, meaning when you're watching
Speaker 4: a movie and they have like not a coke can,
Speaker 4: but something fake, like a fake soda, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it took me out of it, or the numbers five
Speaker 4: five five, which I love getting into it, or getting
Speaker 4: a song that you can't get clear. They go, but
Speaker 4: the artist will never let that happen. And I love
Speaker 4: really getting into it and being like, no, I had
Speaker 4: a film where we wanted to clear I won't even
Speaker 4: say who the artist was, but some popular song from
Speaker 4: the most it's called Opening Night, and we're trying to
Speaker 4: clear it. They couldn't do it, they said. They finally
Speaker 4: called the musician's agent, and the agent said, yeah, if
Speaker 4: Tovah Grace feels so passionate about it, if he walks
Speaker 4: into my cubicle and hands me the check for fifty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, and then I'll make sure it clears. Because
Speaker 4: it was the song was gonna cost fifty grand or something,
Speaker 4: but we had the money. We just didn't the artist
Speaker 4: wouldn't clear it. So I just I mean, it's nothing
Speaker 4: to hop in your car and just drive down to
Speaker 4: this guy's office. But the guy was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I didn't really think you'd show it
Speaker 4: and I was like, here, man, do we get the
Speaker 4: songs good?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then you get this song that no one can
Speaker 4: ever get, you know. He had to call this artist
Speaker 4: and be like, sorry, I promised someone you could use
Speaker 4: it in your film. But I love I love all
Speaker 4: the little things about it. That's what I love so
Speaker 4: much about doing producing on home economics. But you can
Speaker 4: move so many thing things. Fame is such a stupid currency.
Speaker 4: But when you use it like that and you start
Speaker 4: to feel like, oh, you know, it's good.
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody wins, right, Like that's the other things,
Speaker 3: like you you you know, you can make these phone calls,
Speaker 3: you create exciting packages, the clear and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've always been I have a passion for getting titles
Speaker 3: that people think I should never have. Like I went
Speaker 3: to I approached cop Con in Japan and I control
Speaker 3: street Fighter for like two years and nobody knows that,
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, you know, like I titched it to everyone.
Speaker 1: As like a like a.
Speaker 3: Ground and gritty, like you know, underground fight club type
Speaker 3: of situation that eventually the pond gives getting deeper the later.
Speaker 4: I'm into that right now, No one was into that, well,
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you.
Speaker 3: Know comic books and video games, like did you know
Speaker 3: that really doesn't work? Like nobody's waing. Like I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, yeah. I was like so I had
Speaker 3: the same thing with Archie Comics. I control Archie Comics
Speaker 3: for like like a whole year. I sold it to
Speaker 3: twentieth Century Fox. It's like, you know, like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: like a hipster single camera show. It takes place in
Speaker 3: silver leg and it's a comedy. But you know, they're
Speaker 3: all still wearing vintage clothes because hipsters, and.
Speaker 1: You know, they were like a good idea. It was
Speaker 1: really cool and uh and.
Speaker 3: Then the rights holder was like I want to write
Speaker 3: it and I also want to direct it.
Speaker 1: And there where.
Speaker 3: But the street Fower one was a major win for me.
Speaker 3: Just getting Street Fighter was crazy. It was like I
Speaker 3: control street Fighter or the It was insane, you know wow.
Speaker 3: And there was Zoro too, But Zora was like I
Speaker 3: fell in love with John Girtz, who you know holds
Speaker 3: the rise and the copy rights and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's a huge deal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's crazy. It's crazy. People like you
Speaker 1: did what.
Speaker 3: But that's the point, right, Like the point is you
Speaker 3: make these phone calls. You'll never know if he's a
Speaker 3: yay or an A unless you make the phone call.
Speaker 3: Like your agents can tell you that it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a heavy lift and be like, Okay, I guess, I
Speaker 3: guess that's where it ends. But then you decide, Okay,
Speaker 3: let me see what happens when I call, you know,
Speaker 3: and and that's half of this town.
Speaker 1: That's how she gets done. You got that right? How
Speaker 1: do you feel like knowing him?
Speaker 2: Since he was a wee lad and now he's like
Speaker 2: some big mogul company owner, show producer, movie producer. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, multifaceted, A great place for you to tell
Speaker 2: the hair story.
Speaker 4: Story, you know, Yeah, okay, I will tell this. So
Speaker 4: but I would say, I don't think I'm actually that surprise.
Speaker 4: I don't think you and I are that different than
Speaker 4: we were twenty years ago. So I don't think I'm
Speaker 4: very surprised about any of it. But I mean that
Speaker 4: as a compliment. But when we first met, so what
Speaker 4: should we end on this? Our first meeting was Wilmer
Speaker 4: was new to America, new to English.
Speaker 1: And new to like American humor. Yeah, I have my
Speaker 1: own like.
Speaker 4: By the way, I should say that is something that
Speaker 4: I loved about you. Was like, this humor is different,
Speaker 4: like it's from it's coming from a different place. The
Speaker 4: first time I realized Wilma was funny was he did
Speaker 4: an impression of a chipmunk. And I don't mean like
Speaker 4: the chipmunks in the show, like a chipmunk we saw
Speaker 4: on the sidewalk and it was so funny. I was like,
Speaker 4: what is this, Like everyone does impressions of people, Like
Speaker 4: why is he doing an animal? This is such a
Speaker 4: weird story, but it's true. I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 4: like he's coming from like Neptune. Like I don't even
Speaker 4: think it's normal. His sense of humor in Venezuela. I
Speaker 4: just think it's like Wilmer's sense of humor so specific
Speaker 4: to him. Yeah, when we first started the show, I
Speaker 4: mean I'm talking like day one of us showing up,
Speaker 4: we went to the wardrobe at Third Rock because we
Speaker 4: didn't have our own wardrobe area yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have our own production offices yet.
Speaker 4: And Bonnie was sitting with us all in a circle,
Speaker 4: and she said, should we all do trust falls? Do
Speaker 4: you remember that? She was joking, but I was like,
Speaker 4: I think this is actually like an orientation. It's like
Speaker 4: I don't know any of these kids. And everyone was
Speaker 4: going around, everyone was being the fact that Ashton was
Speaker 4: just chilling out, like everyone was being their quietest myself
Speaker 4: and didn't want to screw it up. And then and
Speaker 4: she said, why don't we go around in a circle
Speaker 4: and say who we are and where we're from and everyone,
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, I'm still over. I'm from Connecticut,
Speaker 4: recently got out of boarding school. You know. Ashton was
Speaker 4: in college or had been in college and was in
Speaker 4: New York and came to Wilmer and he said, my
Speaker 4: name is Wilma, and my hair talks to me. My
Speaker 4: hair talks. Everyone was like, I mean, even if we
Speaker 4: wanted to be nice, it was like what what? And
Speaker 4: then he didn't know English well enough to recover whatever
Speaker 4: it was he was trying to say, which I which,
Speaker 4: like I think like literally ten years later, I was like, dude,
Speaker 4: what was that joke supposed to be we.
Speaker 1: Were talking about?
Speaker 3: There was like conversation of like I have so much
Speaker 3: hair and it's like so think of it, like it's
Speaker 3: hard to do anything, like my hair has his own personality.
Speaker 4: Oh uh, huh yeah, okay, so still not a great joke.
Speaker 4: Is the point of that?
Speaker 1: You know, I just want you to get to know me.
Speaker 4: Well, this is our show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for On that note, uh so
Speaker 3: for thank you man for for coming and besting our
Speaker 3: show and being so open to to reminisce and and
Speaker 3: what I mean. Obviously you know I remained an incredible
Speaker 3: big fan, but most importantly excited that, you know, the
Speaker 3: world gets to see you on TV again. When is
Speaker 3: this Netflix show? You know, when it's gonna happen this
Speaker 3: June already?
Speaker 5: Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 1: How many episodes do you guys?
Speaker 4: Only eight episodes? But it's it's you know what, I
Speaker 4: haven't seen it yet, but I think it's great. You know,
Speaker 4: that's the feeling when you come out of it.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Netflix consistently doesn't put together packages
Speaker 3: like that, but I think you are. You work with
Speaker 3: Maria Bello there my old coaster from NCIS and that.
Speaker 4: The reason she's great at Hope McNally, most of the noise,
Speaker 4: Jake Leary just it's like cross the board, great actors.
Speaker 4: What's it's about a family that kind of runs drugs
Speaker 4: in North Carolina? But they're like, you know, like one
Speaker 4: of those streaming shows. They're like the good drug guys
Speaker 4: and I'm like the bad drug guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and are you can you?
Speaker 4: Are you one of the I'm the bad guy?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh yeah, they talk about I don't
Speaker 4: come in until episode four or something. So it's like
Speaker 4: the whole time, I think it's a little bit of
Speaker 4: a joke that it's me, but but I I loved
Speaker 4: it. It was such a great Kevin Williamson wrote it and
Speaker 4: he's like amazing.
Speaker 1: And how long when you in North Carolina for months?
Speaker 4: I mean it was It's funny they say it's a show,
Speaker 4: but you go, these are eight movies. It's the same
Speaker 4: thing with these other big shows on Netflix. You just
Speaker 4: go at the very least like three movies, like a trilogy.
Speaker 1: You're showing is the same director all the way through.
Speaker 4: No no different directors. But but you know, it's like
Speaker 4: it's so epic the money they have for these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean they can really create stuff.
Speaker 4: There's an explosion in one of them and I was like,
Speaker 4: this is straight up Michael bay Old stuff.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's amazing. And you have anything else coming
Speaker 3: out this year? This is this is going to be
Speaker 3: your Uh.
Speaker 4: I did a thing with Glenn Powell, with our buddy
Speaker 4: Glenn Powell. He's he didn't move and I did a
Speaker 4: couple of days on it, and but I don't know
Speaker 4: when that comes out. But that's like in South Africa.
Speaker 4: He's I mean, you know the words out. But Glenn
Speaker 4: pal is awesome. I know everyone knows I'm not breaking
Speaker 4: any news. But so he's a budd of yours. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I love I knew him a little bit before him
Speaker 4: such a great I.
Speaker 1: Love him so much and I'm so so proud.
Speaker 3: Of him because he he really manifested everything he's got.
Speaker 1: And uh, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 4: Man, he's one of like, you know, one of these guys.
Speaker 1: He comes in a room and lights it up. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just like that guy.
Speaker 4: He's still the same guy. I mean, you know, he's great.
Speaker 1: He's great on screen. He has a great lessence about him.
Speaker 3: Know, he's he's really he's really great. We have so
Speaker 3: many friends in comment to we we laugh all the time.
Speaker 3: He sent me a picture the other way the other
Speaker 3: day of like I think it was like he was
Speaker 3: like eighteen years old or something.
Speaker 1: Like that we were both like this and I was like,
Speaker 1: when did that? Like it was crazy, dude, I assure
Speaker 1: the picture was pretty insane.
Speaker 3: But but over again, man, thank you for raising our
Speaker 3: show and for blessing us here with your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm here because I love your show, but
Speaker 4: I'm really here because you've been such a big part
Speaker 4: of my life and you still are. And I'm just
Speaker 4: so thrilled to be able to say it publicly.
Speaker 1: Thank you. No, it means so much. I mean so
Speaker 1: much so that you read your book, or at least you know.
Speaker 4: I actually really did read the book, and I'd say,
Speaker 4: I don't know who hasn't read the book. Who's listening
Speaker 4: to your podcast? It also is on tape, yeah, but
Speaker 4: like I recorded it, but you it's it's such a
Speaker 4: I think when it comes to like memoirs, a lot
Speaker 4: of people are just kind of like saying the events
Speaker 4: that happened in their life. And it's so cool to
Speaker 4: see it come from a from a perspective for really
Speaker 4: interesting and you even even you could have written it
Speaker 4: different ways, but you took it from like one perspective.
Speaker 4: It is really smart.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, man, appreciate that so much and this
Speaker 3: is an awesome episode of Those Amigos. I am Wilmer Valdorama,
Speaker 3: I'm Freddie Rodriguez and stay tuned for the next episode.
Speaker 2: Dose Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's
Speaker 2: Michael Throda podcast network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez and
Speaker 2: Wilmer Valdorama.
Speaker 6: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.
Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,
Speaker 2: and Leo Klem at WV Sound.
Speaker 6: This episode was shot and edited by Ryan Posts and
Speaker 6: mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by Madison
Speaker 6: Devenport and Hello Boy.
Speaker 1: Our cover art.
Speaker 2: Photography is by David Avalos and designed by Deny Holtzkall and.
Speaker 6: Thank you for being there third Amigo today. I appreciate
Speaker 6: you guys. Always listening to Those Amigos.
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Speaker 5: So you next week