1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: a sharp like me weighs in the lines move, it's 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the Buffet with 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Wow Wow Wow. Welcome to the Buffet Podcast with Chad 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: and Scooch, part of the Action Network. I am Chad. 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Moment on the phone with me from the Orleans and 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: all the Boyd gaming books in the state of Nevada. 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: Bob Scocci, my man Scooch. How you doing, Buddy? I'm good. 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: How are you? Chad? Keep good? So you and I 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: are gonna recap a Super Bowl which was epic in 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: every single way from a betting perspective, from a game perspective. Uh. 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Later on in the show, Matt Moore Hardwood Paroxysm, the 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: lead NBA analyst for the Action Network, is going to 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: come on because there is crazy, crazy stuff to talk 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: about in the NBA with you know, the piston streaking 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: and the calves, a fundamental mess on the floor on 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: the board. Um, really amazing to see this this collapse. 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: The Lakers the hottest team in the NBA right now. So, um, 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna come on. We're gonna talk about all the 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: NBA stuff from a betting perspective, But first, Scooch, are 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: you hungover? How do you feel the Super Bowl biggest 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday in from the betting handle perspective in 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Nevada history? Well, um, well, I'll tell you every year, 27 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: regardless of the results of the Super Bowl, regardless of 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: how it goes, there's there's a kind of an empty 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: void that that kind of comes with the end of 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: the football season. It probably takes a couple of weeks 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: before you kind of it back into the swing of 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: the sports book and and you know, focus on college 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: hoops and NBA. But regardless of the results, there's there's 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: always that hangover. I mean literally, you feel like a 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: hangover without the headache. Came in. I came in Monday 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: morning and you're kind of doing all the recaps and 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: getting all the numbers together for for the gaming control 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: boards so that they can report on the win loss 39 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: and everything. And uh yeah, that definitely the week after 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the Super bowls a rough one. Yeah, the I feel 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the same way. You know, we the Action Network did 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: a live stream over Twitter on pregame show, in game show, 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: and postgame show. They had a lot of a lot 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: of viewers. Like combined the show has had like crazy 45 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: amounts of viewers. Um, and we were I was like, 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: and then you know, after the show, we after the game, 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: and after the show was wrapped, we go downstairs, we 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: have a drink whatever. Then I'm up early in the morning. 49 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm writing a newsletter for Action Network. Subscribe to the 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: newsletter at Action network dot com. And like, I am 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: beat man. I could barely function last night. I finally 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: got home from the city and I could I couldn't move. Yeah, 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean days later. Uh you know, it's just, uh 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: you think after a couple of days and getting a 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: good night's rest that you'd still feel that you'd feel okay, 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: but you don't. I mean even last night. So we're 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: talking about Tuesday, a couple of days after the game, 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: and I was still just not myself. And um, you know, 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: like I said, it takes a good week and and 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: so we still got a few more days to go 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: to kind of feel normal after you know, you get 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: such a fever pitch leading up to the game, and 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: like I said, it culminates an entire season where you 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: get into this routine where Sunday, you know, you have 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: all the games, you post the numbers for the following week, 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: you gear up during the week, you put the parlay 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: cards together, you gear up for the weekend, and then 68 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: like after each Sunday, there's a little bit of a breather, 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: and then you get back into that routine again. And 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: after that final Super you know, the final game of 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you're still looking for that same routine 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: and it's gone and and that kind of takes them 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: getting used to. Did uh you know you mentioned getting 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the numbers together for the Nevada game and Control board 75 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: they reported that the handle in Nevada for this Super 76 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Bowl was a hundred and fifty eight million dollars. That 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: was twenty million dollars than the previous year, which had 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: been six million dollars than the previous year. That is 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: a massive increase, Scooch, Uh, did you notice that during 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: the game? Did you notice more money coming in that 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: you had in your past? Uh? I didn't notice the 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: big difference. And I think you know, one of the 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: things that the Gaming Control Board does not report is 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: the number of tickets written. And I would really be 85 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: curious to see that as an indicator of how many 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: more people are actually wagering. You know, it's hard, it's 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: hard to kind. I mean, obviously it's a record in 88 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: terms of handle. But you know, if you have one 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: guy that's betting ten million, then yeah, that's going to 90 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: affect the handle. So and then that's also going to 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: affect if you if you take ten million from one 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: guy that didn't bet the previous year and then you 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: move the line to get money on the other side, 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: then that theoretically could become twenty million. And there's the 95 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: twenty million difference from from year to year. So, but 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: but it always seems busy. I mean, when you're running 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: at capacity, it's hard to tell the difference of you know, 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: how much busier it is. You have every window open, 99 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: you have all hands on deck, you're just packed, all 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: your properties are packed. So it always seems it always 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: seems busy. You're obviously referring to this guy better X. Yeah, so, uh, 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: when that's happening in Vegas, how are bookmakers reacting? Are 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: there like calls going around town? Hey, this guy just 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: came in and hit me for a million, or like, 105 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: how do how does the word get out? I don't 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: think the bookmakers themselves really uh talk about it much. 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I think the word gets out, you know, the somebody 108 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: inside that either took the bed or the or was 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: near the counter when they heard about the bet being made, 110 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and the word gets out pretty quick. And then usually 111 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: one of the somebody in the media will call up 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: and say, hey, we heard reports that you know, you 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: took this big bed. You know, can you confirm it? 114 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: And you know, depending on the operator, they'll either confirm 115 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: it or not comment on it. But but you know, 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: typically the word gets out through kind of the grapevine, 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: but not necessarily from the bookmaker. Occasionally the bookmaker will 118 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: want to share and say, yeah, we just took a 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: million dollar bet or a two million dollar bet, and 120 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: you know, that's up to the operator to share that 121 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: information or not. What do you get by sharing it 122 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: versus not sharing it? I guess a little publicity. But 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: I was always maybe just kind of close to the 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: vest I don't really want to share the act wagers 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: that I'm taking, particularly if they're from people that don't 126 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: really want to other people to know that they're betting 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: those large amounts. You know, I've I've had kind of 128 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: high profile uh, individuals want to make large wagers, and 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they'd really appreciate me going out about 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: and saying who they are, and you know how much 131 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: they're betting on the game. You know, if it's up 132 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: to them, if they want to share that information, that's 133 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: up to them. You know. In years past, obviously Floyd 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Mayweather is you know, posted some of his wagers and 135 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and uh that that's up to the the individual. But 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, not everyone wants to be that public. So 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: better acts is coming around. He's allegedly betting and I 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: say allegedly not because he doesn't exist, just because the 139 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: the totals are hard to pin down. Um, you know 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: upwards of say seven million dollars on the Super Bowl 141 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: spread out about town and all of it on the Eagles. 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: That guy cash is some seriously seriously big tickets that 143 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: could be where April honds of sort of the added 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: handle comes from when you're talking about that increase from yeah, absolutely, 145 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: And like I said, there's kind of a ripple effect 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: and that you know, you take a big wager on 147 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: one side and you try to balance the action a 148 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: little bit, and maybe you move the line a little 149 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: bit lower than you would normally move it to. So 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: for example, you know, if the guy did bet let's 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: say the Eagles on the money line and he took uh, 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, plus one seventy, which was you know what 153 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: it was at one time, and then later on in 154 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the in the week, uh, the casino lowers it so 155 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: much to get Patriots money that maybe they lower it 156 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: to minus one seventy just to get money on the 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: other side. And you know, they're they're kind of there's 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: not much earned there because you've got one guy taken 159 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: plus one seventy and you got another one laying one seventy. 160 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: But at least you're trying to balance some of the 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: action now. And maybe that's where a lot of that 162 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: additional handle comes from. I've experienced it in the past 163 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: when our company has acquired a new property and let's say, 164 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, we we acquire a new casino that we 165 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: didn't have the prior year. Not only did we get 166 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: the handle, the additional handle from that property, but also 167 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the handle increases at our old properties as well, because 168 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe we're taking a a hundred thousand dollar wager on 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: this game. Here we move the line, and now we're 170 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: taking additional handle at our other properties, so you get 171 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: that kind of ripple effect. I was really encouraged by it. 172 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Actually didn't even occur to me that it could be 173 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: from better acts until you've mentioned, yeah, there could be 174 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: one guy that in seven million around town, and that 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: makes up about the you know, potentially increased handle. Um, 176 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: because I just love the idea that people are getting 177 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: more and more active about betting. Do you get any 178 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: sense any sense of that from the book this weekend? Yeah? 179 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely so. I think another element of the increased handle 180 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: was the edit features on a lot of mobile apps 181 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: that allow in game wagering. I've from talking to some 182 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: of the other bookmakers in town, the properties that did 183 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: pretty well, not pretty well, but better than other properties 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: on the on the game, UH accounted for it by 185 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: saying that they want on the in progress wagering. So, 186 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: in other words, the books that did okay on the 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: game made up made up for it with a lot 188 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: of Patriots money in game wagering. UH. And that element 189 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't exist five years ago or even four years ago 190 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in a lot of places. So the fact that more 191 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: and more casinos are getting this on the app is 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: creating more betting opportunities. Uh. You know, we tried something 193 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: that we never did before, and we actually put up 194 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: second half player prop wagering at halftime. Uh, you know, 195 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: with the with the extended halftime of the Super Bowl 196 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: allowed us a little bit of time to put together 197 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's total passing arts for just the second half, 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Nick Foles passing yards for just the second half, total 199 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: number of points scored, just all the same props that 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you would see pregame. We put them up at halftime 201 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: and I was surprised at how much action we got 202 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: on it. I mean, we just threw them up there 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: in a matter of four or five minutes, and they 204 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: had about thirty minutes to bet it, and they just 205 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: pounded a lot of those propositions. So all new wagering 206 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: opportunities are expanded betting menu. All that contributes to you know, uh, 207 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: added popularity in sports betting. There's more sports books than 208 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: there ever were there. They're still popping up, so yeah, 209 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's real encouraging for for sports betting. What 210 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: is the biggest bet you took during the Super Bowl? Yeah, 211 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not going to share that, but Scoots, 212 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to say who I just over? 213 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I know, but I'm not It was it more or 214 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: less than seven figures? You've told me when you've had 215 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: like big six figure bets before. Well, sometimes I'm able 216 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to share it and sometimes I'm not. But it was 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: less than seven figures, I'm gonna take that to be 218 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: high six figure heres then, and so, um, what what 219 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: bet did you lose? What was the best outcome for 220 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: you for this game? The best outcome would have been 221 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots covering the spread. Actually, if they were to 222 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: cover the spread by a twelve and cover teasers and 223 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the games stay under, so the absolute best score would 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: have been seven to ten. That would have been the 225 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: ultimate we probably would have held about for the Super Bowl. Uh, 226 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, the next obvious. Uh, any kind of Patriots 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: covering would have been the next best scenario with the 228 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: game staying under. Um, even if the Patriots won the 229 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: game outright and still flew over the way it did so, 230 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,359 Speaker 1: even sitting when it was at thirty three thirty two, Uh, 231 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: that would have been okay, I would have been It 232 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been great, but just a huge difference from um, 233 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles winning the game out right the way they 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: did and and flying over the way it did. Boy. So, really, 235 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: the worst thing that could possibly happen was happening like 236 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: the Eagles winning outright and it going over the The 237 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: only thing would have been a little worse is if 238 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: the under teasers came into play. So, in other words, 239 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: fifties six and a half points was right around the 240 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: number where people were betting the Eagles plus eleven and 241 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: a half and under fifty six and a half in 242 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: a two team teaser, and uh, it would have been 243 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: possible for all four teaser combinations to come in. Uh. 244 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: If you know, the Eagles had won by let's say 245 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: one or two and the game hovered around fifty five 246 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: fifty six, that would have been an even worse outcome 247 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: than what we saw right now. So this is probably 248 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: the second worst that could have happened. UM, yeah, I 249 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: feel bad for you about that. I'm sure you're doing 250 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: sure everybody does, do you know? I was very vocal, 251 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: very vocal in our pregame show that people could watch 252 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: at Action Network HQ on Twitter and you can still 253 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: follow us at Action Network HQ on Twitter, Um that 254 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna win this game out right. I'm like, 255 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: the Eagle's gonna cover. The Eagles are gonna win this 256 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: game out right. They're a better team. I thought they 257 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: matched up really well. I thought Nick Foles, largely because 258 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: of the conversation you and I had had, Um was 259 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: just a much better quarterback than he was being given 260 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: credit for from a point spread perspective by the bookmakers. Clearly, 261 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: you guys made a mistake in this game and Um, 262 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: so I was thrilled to see it. Uh. I also 263 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: won my underbet on the national anthem because I was 264 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: originally on the over and very vocal that I was 265 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: on the over. But the day before there were all 266 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: those rumors about Pink having the flu and her rehearsal 267 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: time were leaked, so I knew that she had rehearsed 268 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: between one fifty and one fifty four, and so I 269 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: went all in on the under. I had Nelson Agalore 270 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: over forty two and a half yards. UM. That was 271 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: a big one for me. The Action Network went twenty 272 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: and three in the fifty two props that we had 273 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: written about Um during the week up to the Super Bowl, 274 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: so you would have wanted a bunch of coin by 275 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: following Action Network there, and we had our leads on 276 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots to cover um on the over, which was 277 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: our best bet from our sports insides algorithm. I mean, 278 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: we nailed it. Like it's it's like you are lucky 279 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: that we did not spend all of our time in 280 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the Orleans Sports Book because we would have. Uh, we 281 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: don't avoid gaming right now, you know why I feel 282 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: fortunate about that. How did how did our right side 283 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: as the winning side prop by at do prop rashadat? 284 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: How did that one do well? We we got a 285 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: lot of handle on it, a lot of interest in it. 286 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: And as he predicted and as we talked about more 287 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: people that yes, that there would be more yards from 288 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: scrimmage from the team that won the game, and it 289 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: was like minus dollar sixty and it did not win. 290 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: As he kind of pointed out, a lot of times, 291 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: the losing team ends up with more yards from scrimmage. 292 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: So um, we did okay on the prop and it 293 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: went about as we expected. I really like that problem. 294 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: That's a great problem. You're gonna have to use that 295 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: again next year? Yeah, we probably will. You know, we've 296 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: we've been doing this for you know, like you said, 297 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years and a lot of times 298 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: there's a prop that kind of works and we use 299 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: it for three or four years following uh, the year 300 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: that it won the contest. So I think that's one 301 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: of them that will stick around. What was the handle 302 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: on that prople? We wrote probably about a little over 303 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: twenty on that prop. No way, Yeah, one thousand in 304 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: tickets on the get your Prop up in Vegas winning props. Yeah. Yeah, 305 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: a ton of action on that one, I mean really 306 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: and we want a little money on that one. Yeah, 307 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: one of the few props that we won money. Yeah, 308 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: you got killed on props like props because everything went over, 309 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Everything went over everyone. Yes, you know, everyone bets yes, 310 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: Gronkyle skill score, Yes, uh, Mundo will score, and yes 311 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: we'll go over the yardage over this. Everyone bets over. 312 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Everybody bets, yes they'll be scoring and in a high 313 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: scoring game with over eleven hundred yards. Yeah, there's gonna 314 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: be a lot of those props coming in. But I'll 315 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: tell you the worst one, and it was kind of 316 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: a double edged sword because of what we were rooting for. 317 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: It was the end of the second It was the 318 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: end of the first half, and one of our biggest 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: props was will there be a score in the last 320 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: two minutes of the first half, And we had a 321 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: ton of money on the no, meaning everyone's betting that 322 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: there would not be a scoring play in the last 323 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: two minutes of the first half. So here we are, 324 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: We're rooting for any kind of score, whether it's a 325 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: field goal, a touchdown. We didn't care. We just wanted 326 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: somebody to score in the last two minutes of the 327 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: first half. So here the Eagles are and they're at 328 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the one, and you know, we're hoping for them to 329 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: kick the field goal, which they don't. They line up 330 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: and uh that they throw that play, And before we 331 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: realized that Nick Foles caught the touchdown, we just were 332 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: like elated that, oh, yes, we got the score. We 333 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: won that prop. And then we realized who scored the touchdown, 334 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: And that was one of the worst props that could 335 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: have happened, because Nick Foles was like six to one, 336 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: seven to one to score a touchdown, and we got 337 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: annihilated on that. So whatever we saved on the proper 338 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: we're rooting for, we lost that and double on Nick 339 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: Foles scoring the touchdown that last nine of the first 340 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: half was insane because you had the I think there 341 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: was a problem will there be more than two people 342 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: throwing passes in the game, and so that happened. You 343 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: had Nick Foles to score a touchdown, which in some 344 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: places was eight to one. UM. I think that also 345 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: helped hit the first half over. Maybe UM or maybe 346 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I hit her first half over for total points by 347 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles, I can't remember, but something that I was 348 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: in play, like in the last um it was it 349 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: was insanity. It was totally insanity. There was a flurry 350 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: of just all the props hitting in the last couple 351 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: of minutes of that first half. There's so many props 352 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: in play right up until you know, the last second. 353 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: It was really fun, as it better, it was really 354 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: really fun. Yeah, you know, it's really odd for me 355 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: to try and be objective about it, because you know, 356 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: I did a lot of shows on Monday following the 357 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and maybe it was a little too fresh 358 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: in my mind. But it was obviously the not not 359 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: the best outcome for us, and it was really disappointing 360 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: from from our end, so to kind of say it 361 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: was one of the greatest games of all time? You really, really, 362 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: it's too close to the game right now for me 363 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: to say that. Maybe three or four years down the 364 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: road when I look back on it, I'll say, yeah, 365 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: it was an exciting game, but uh, you know, right now, 366 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, it was a terrible game. Um what what? 367 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: What shows were you doing? A lot of local ones? Uh, 368 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: there's a couple of local sports talk shows that I've 369 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: been doing regularly for the last couple of years, and um, 370 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: and did one in the morning and one at night, 371 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: and kind of the same questions, as you know, it 372 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: wasn't it the most exciting, the greatest game of all time? 373 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not from where I sit, you know, 374 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: I gotta take that bookmaker hat off maybe and just 375 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: kind of rewatch it as just a football fan. And 376 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of the Patriots Panthers. If 377 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: you remember that Super Bowl where it was kind of 378 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: a low scoring first half, but then it just blew 379 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: up in the second half and it was back and forth, 380 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: back and forth, and but that one we were kind 381 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: of on the right side of. So I still think 382 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: of that as being one of the most exciting Super Bowls. Uh, 383 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, I guess it just depends on the outcome 384 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: of the game and who you need for you to 385 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: say whether it was a great game or not. Not coincidentally, 386 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: that's the last time Justin timber Lake made an appearance 387 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: at the halftime show. Was that the one with the 388 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson? Yeah, that was Nipplegate. I was wondering about 389 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: that because, you know, I was so busy during halftime. 390 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: I missed the entire halftime show with you know, typical. 391 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: But I was putting up all these props and booking 392 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: the halftime and everything else, and but I heard it 393 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: was a decent halftime show. You gotta make money, man. 394 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: You can't be you know, watching j T when you 395 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: got props to post and money to make and bets 396 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: to take. Hey, did um, did you meet a rash 397 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: sadat the winner of our contest? Because he was coming 398 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: to Vegas for the bachelor party that he was going 399 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: to be attending, and he was supposed to come get 400 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: his buffet and take a picture of the prop on 401 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the board. I did not. Unfortunately, I don't. I didn't 402 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: hear of him asking for me. If he did, I apologize. 403 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: But I was here and I met a lot of 404 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: folks that have come here in the past that listened 405 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: to the podcast pretty regularly. I was able to talk 406 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: to a few of them. I was out front as 407 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: much as I could be, and but unfortunately I didn't 408 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: get a chance to hook up with him. M hmm, 409 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: too bad. Yeah, did you So at the end of 410 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the day, did you win or lose in the Super Bowl? Uh? 411 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: We broke almost exactly even, which is a big loss, 412 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: you know, considering that you're supposed to win money on 413 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So that's that's your super Bowl, yep, 414 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean the whole state. I think the final figure 415 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: was point zero seven hold percentage, which by any state. Yeah, 416 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you think about you know, spreading it over uh two 417 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: hundred sports books, you know what does that amount to state? 418 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: The entire state? The hold was one point one seven 419 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: million dollars on a hundred and fifty eight million bets 420 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: spread over two d books, two book. Yeah, that's about right, 421 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: that's about what we did. Really, nobody made any money 422 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: on this super Bowl. It's kind of insane. Yeah, I 423 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: mean typical of any super Bowl. You start wondering what 424 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: you could have done differently, how you could have um, 425 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, booked it a little differently, but we made up. 426 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: We made our minds up early on that we weren't 427 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: going to try and manipulate the way people were already 428 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: inclined to bet. So we knew early on they were 429 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: going to be betting the Eagles. So, you know, there 430 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: was nothing we could do to put us in a 431 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: position where we were going to have a great Super 432 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: Bowl if the Eagles won. So it's just a matter 433 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: of how much we want to get get back on 434 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots late, um, to kind of mitigate some of 435 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: the loss. But you know, we we talked about it 436 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: last week. We were the first place in town to 437 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: go to four on the game. We saw the early 438 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: Eagles money, so in my mind, you know, we actually 439 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: saved I know you don't like to hear this, but 440 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: we actually saved a little money because we went to 441 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: four before anybody in town. And you know, if people 442 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: were still betting the Eagles at that point, they were 443 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: going to be grabbing plus four and a half plus five. Um. 444 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: You know, there's only so much you can do to 445 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: kind of steer the way people are going to be 446 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: inclined to bet. Big Tony, Big Tony. I'm such a 447 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: good bookmaker. You can't believe. You can't believe how much 448 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: money we would have lost if I wasn't such a 449 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: good bookmaker. That's true, I mean it really is true. Alright, 450 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: good listen. Uh, this was officially a great season. And um, 451 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: now we gotta start thinking about college basketball. We gotta 452 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: start thinking about the NBA. Um. Now we got to 453 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: get Alan Boston back on the podcast. Yeah, um, maybe 454 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: he'll join both of us. How would you feel about 455 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I'll be I won't have to 456 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: talk much. I love Alan, I miss Alan. Alright, we're 457 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna work on that for next week. All right, muster 458 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: up the courage, all right, Scooch, great season, Thanks very much. Everybody, 459 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: stick around because we have coming up next Matt Moore, 460 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: lead NBA analysts for the Action Network at Hardwood Paroxysm. 461 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on. We're gonna talk about everything happening 462 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: in the National Drama Association, trade deadline coming up, uh, 463 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: playoff seatings in peril, all the stuff you need to 464 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: know to be a smarter, better UM and a better fan. 465 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: With Matt Moore coming right up joining me now on 466 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: the buffet lead NBA analysts for the Action Network, longtime 467 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: NBA reporter at Hardwood Paroxysm Twitter, fame, creator of the 468 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: blog at her of the blog Hardwood Paroxysm. Matt Moore, 469 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: what's going on, Buddy, A lot, a lot is going on, 470 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to keep track of all the stuff 471 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: that's going on. It's it's not crazy. It's it's crazy, 472 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: not as crazy as it could be. It's probably gonna 473 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: get a little crazy the next twenty four hours is 474 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: what I would say. It's gonna get even crazier. But yeah, 475 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: it's been busy. Chairs. What seems crazy to me is 476 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: this morning the Action Network newsletter that went out, we 477 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: had a a sort of fourteen things you're hearing in 478 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: the last thirty six hours before the trade deadline. We 479 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: had a NBA Mega Batting guide for the slate that's 480 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: going on tonight that includes UM, the Pistons, it includes 481 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: the Calves, that includes the rockets. And then you had 482 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: an email exclusive that was just going in the newsletter 483 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: UM that UH was recapping the craziness just of last night. 484 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: So we're recording this Wednesday afternoon. The thunder blowout, the Warriors, 485 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: the Calves blow way eighteen point lead to the magic um. 486 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: The Celtics lose to the Raptors and don't look very 487 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: good doing it. So now the East is a very 488 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: very tight race um. And that was before we could 489 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: talk about anything that was happening tonight or in the 490 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: next you know, couple of days and and and Porzingias 491 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: tearing his a c L and the Lakers being the 492 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: hottest team in the NBA. I mean that's twenty four 493 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: hours ago and it's only and then like Blake, like 494 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Blake Griffin, feel like Blake Griffin got traded a year ago. 495 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Like Blake Griffin got traded. I still wrestled with this. 496 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: I like, wake up. But I'm like Blake Griffin got traded, 497 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: like the Clippers really brought him in and had him 498 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: walk through a maze of his life and then had 499 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: a mock ceremony retiring his jersey, gave him a five year, 500 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: nearly two million dollar deal, and then traded him Like 501 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: that's something that happened. Well last week. Yeah, there's a 502 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: lot going on. The Porzingis injuries obviously terrible. We just 503 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: had so many, so many injuries. Two major players, just 504 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: major guys are out right now. Team Lebron for the 505 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: All Star Game is lost. I think five guys, it's 506 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: been absolute madness on that end. Um, the Lakers are 507 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: red hot, even though they're recircling around. Um, the trade 508 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: market is bonkers, and nobody knows what the Calves are 509 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna do, Like, no one knows where the Calves are 510 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: at right now. So let's get let's get a little organized. 511 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: We'll break it down in a couple of team by 512 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: team uh fashions. Here for a second. Number one, I 513 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: do want to talk about the Pistons. I find them 514 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: to be fascinating and the addition of Blake. Even in 515 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: the three games he's played there, he's looked really happy 516 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and the team has looked really good and connected. Is 517 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: this all of a sudden a team that is sneaky contending? 518 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Like if you got money, are you putting money down 519 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: on the Pistons for anything legitimate? From a Eastern Conference 520 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: perspective right now? Yeah? I think the banging on the 521 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: matchup and that's what I'm kind of looking at is like, 522 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: all right, so you know there are only one game 523 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: back of in the lost column from being tied for 524 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: the sixth seed, Like they can get as as high 525 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: as probably realistically four, they can make a run and 526 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: get all the way up to four. They'll land somewhere 527 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: between four and eight if they make it. Now, all 528 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: the teams that are in in these spots, these are 529 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: all really good teams. If you if you look at 530 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: the East, Washington, Milwaukee, Indiana, Miami, Philadelphia, Detroit, those are 531 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: all good teams. Uh, Detroit had a really hot start 532 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: and then completely fell apart and tailed off. They've had injuries. 533 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Blake's obviously given them new life. He and Drummond are 534 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: meshing together so well, and that kind of front court pairing. 535 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: If you get them versus some of the teams in 536 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: the East, if you get them against Milwaukee, that's gonna 537 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: be playing John Henson and thought Maker a lot, unless 538 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: they make a deal for DeAndre Jordan, which I'm hearing 539 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: there's still very much in the mix. Four. Um, and 540 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: they go up against Indiana where Miles Turner is really good, 541 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: but Daddeus Young and power forward is undersized. Um, they 542 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: could do damage there if they get up and they 543 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: face it. Look, if they face Cleveland's I don't love 544 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: that matchup just because they can tear them apart inside 545 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: and pick and roll and be able to find guys. 546 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: If they can lockdown shot, that's the big key for them. 547 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a honeymoon aspect of this, but they're 548 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: defending really well. I've been really impressed with Andre Drummond, 549 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: who could have seen Blake Griffin coming in and been 550 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: and and go into a funk saying like, well, I 551 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: guess I'm not the franchise guy anymore and getting really 552 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: down on himself. But he's been fantastic. He has just 553 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: been incredible. The passing for him this year is amazing. 554 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: His free throw making is decent enough to where it's 555 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: no longer a viable option to just foul him, and 556 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: it's converting points per possession marks when they have to 557 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: at a good rate. There's a lot going on with 558 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Detroit and I don't think they're done. I think that 559 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: they want to have one more guy on the wing, 560 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: and if they can do that, they're gonna be in 561 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: a really good position, I think for a run. And 562 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very interested to see what the what 563 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: the line looks like for their series number, depending on 564 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: where they lined up wind up in the matchups. Andre 565 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Drummond has very quietly become one of my most liked 566 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: players in the NBA. He had a great line when 567 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: he was named the name of the All Star team 568 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: and I forgot some rookie was plaining about it and 569 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: he came out and basically just shut him down. Um. 570 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: And the way he's handled the Griffin trade has been 571 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: really interesting, Like he's just in watching His body language 572 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: is great. He is enjoying having him around. He's completely um. 573 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: He's not changing his game, but he's willing to tailor 574 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of his game, UH to accommodate what 575 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Griffin is doing and sort of his load and personality 576 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: in terms of being the face of that franchise, it's 577 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: been really impressive. Yeah, and with him, it's about consistency 578 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: and this has always been a thing with dry where 579 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: where you know his rookie season, he came out and 580 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: was so much better than we expected. After Yukon, he 581 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: had a really bad reputation coming out of the draft 582 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: as a guy that may not just love basketball and 583 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: they just didn't know where he was going to be. 584 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: He was labeled as like a headcase. And I saw 585 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: that when I did the film work on him, and 586 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: was like he just disappears at times, and he was 587 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: great that first year, and so we set this new 588 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of bar. But over the next two seasons, next 589 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: three seasons, really it's selled into the same routine, which 590 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: is he would just vanish for long periods and it 591 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: really frustrated the team and especially frustrated his coaches and 592 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Sam van Gundy wouldn't put up with it. I mean, 593 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: he's been benched routinely in situations where he just vanishes completely, 594 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: and that's a problem. But he's he was still so 595 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: young and he's working past that now. And if you 596 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: add in the consistency that he's bringing, the presence that 597 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: he has physically and his passing ability, which we really 598 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: did not realize what he was capable of until this year, 599 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a completely different dynamic. Detroit struggles to score, so 600 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: having a guy that can attract the attention to the 601 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: defense and passed like that is just it's huge for them. 602 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: A drumman has absolutely been an All Star having a 603 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: tripic season, and if they made the playoffs, he's gonna 604 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: be a problem for some team to handle. Alright, So 605 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: if we're talking mid season, be on the lookout post 606 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: All Star break heading into the playoff values. Let's put 607 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: let's put the Pistons. Let's just put the Pistons on 608 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: our list. There on the list right now as a 609 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: team you're gonna want to pay attention to and might 610 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: get a little bit of action plus my because it 611 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: could be value. Um. Another note you had in the 612 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: newsletter today, sign up for Action network dot com. Uh, 613 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Lakers. Let's talk about the Lakers 614 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: winning six or seven. Let's talk about them being one 615 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: of the hottest teams in the NBA. They're not a 616 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. They're not going to make the playoffs, but 617 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: they're they're stretching for that eight. Um, what's going on there? 618 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: This is the one I found. The stat that found 619 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: that was really shocking. So the Lakers are closer to 620 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: being the eight seed in the West than the Calves 621 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: are to being the one seed in the East. They 622 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: are closer to being in the playoffs and the Calves 623 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: already getting the number one seed, which so many bad 624 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: things about the Calves. It just says so many bad things. UM. 625 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: I am still really skeptical on the Lakers, and I 626 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: would I would want to fade them in the second 627 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: half of the season. Um, I think that they're having 628 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I've seen this where all bad teams will have about 629 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: one to one and a half good months where they 630 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: play sustained, consistent basket ball. It's usually in the middle 631 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: of the season. And what happens is they catch good 632 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: teams that are tired and not looking up, they catch 633 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: injury plaque squad, they catch bad teams on back to backs, etcetera. 634 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: They've beaten some good teams. The okay, see win was great. 635 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: That was a great win for them. They're playing well. 636 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: A lot of it is that they're playing well in 637 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: capacities where it doesn't make a lot of sense for 638 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: them to be good, Like they've been good defensively, and 639 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: there's no reason this team should be good defensively. They 640 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: have too many liabilities who are young for them to 641 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: be there. So I'm really skeptical of how this is 642 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: gonna look. The other thing is like what happens when 643 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Alonzo comes back, Because there's a simple answer that says 644 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: Alonzo was good. They have a better net rating with 645 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: Alonzo on the floor than off, so if you add him, 646 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: everything is good. Well, we don't know what's about the 647 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: dynamics and if they've discovered something during the stretch that's working. 648 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Inserting a guy like that could mess with the whole dynamic, 649 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: and we just don't know what that's gonna look like. 650 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they'll get worse. It just seems 651 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: like it's it's possible that we don't know what the 652 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: result is gonna be. The other thing to keep an 653 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: eye on is the trade deadline, because they've burned a 654 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of bridges with Julius Randall, like that situation is 655 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: pretty far gone um and I think for both sides, 656 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: letting him out would be best because I don't think 657 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: that they're gonna want to pay him this summer, and 658 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: if they don't pay him this summer, he's obviously gone. 659 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: So you want to get value for him now. And 660 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: with the kind of teams that are out there that 661 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: are looking for you know, we want X, Y Z. 662 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: And if the picks aren't coming through, because picks right 663 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: now in a really nebulous place on the trade market, 664 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: I can see Randall getting moved and that's I think 665 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: it's going to impact them in a big way because 666 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: he's been really good for them. There's a lot of 667 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: promise there. I think brandon Ingram has taken a huge 668 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: steps forward. I think Luke Walton is getting better as 669 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: a coach. I like um the way some of their 670 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: young talent is playing. Kuzma is obviously really good offensively 671 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: at least UM, but I have a lot of doubts 672 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: about the sustainability of this and I want to know 673 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: what happens when Alonzo gets back. All right, Um, I 674 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Raptors in the Celtics, and 675 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: we got to spend a little It's always weird to 676 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: talk about the East because at the end of the day, 677 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: what does it matter, right Like, they're going to get 678 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: to the finals and have to play the warrior Ers 679 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna lose. And so if we're looking 680 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: at it from a future value perspective, we can get 681 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: all excited about the Raptors at sixteen to one, but 682 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if they're gonna end up having 683 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: to play the Warriors, you know what I mean? Like, 684 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: the Raptors are great, and they're they're playing really well 685 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: right now, but what are you getting excited about if 686 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have to play someone from Golden 687 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: State in the finals. Well, I think your bet there 688 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: is you want to play the Raptors to win the East, 689 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: that that's where you want to go with those numbers, 690 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: And um, I know that they were still getting they 691 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: were getting considerably better numbers that the Celtics numbers. Like, 692 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: the Celtics are pretty much the favorite in the Eastern 693 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: Conference outside of the Calves the Cavs last to my 694 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: check out to update those and take a look from 695 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: Westgate where they're at. But for me, like the Raptors 696 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: are a great bet to win the Eastern Conference. We 697 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: saw it last night. They absolutely waxed Boston and they're 698 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: now split one one. But Boston's playoff formula is a 699 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: little bit sketchy. They got young defenders playing at a 700 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: really high level, but their offense is absolutely dreadful. They 701 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: need guys who are not shot makers to make shots, 702 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: and they need young guys in clutch, tense situations to deliver. 703 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: That's gonna be problematic. Kyrie Irving's offense is very easy 704 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: to scheme for in a playoff environment, It's impossible to stop, 705 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: but it's easy to scheme for, and that allows you 706 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: to stay home on the other guys. So when you 707 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: look at Toronto, Toronto hits you about a million different ways. 708 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: You gotta make sure that Kyle Lowry and DeMar Deroz 709 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: and both of those guys don't go off, because either 710 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: one can go off for forty. As bad as they 711 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs, either one can step up and 712 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: have a big game. Their bench is probably, in my opinion, 713 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: maybe the best in the NBA. And it's a bunch 714 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: of guys who no one's ever heard of. I mean, 715 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: it's Fred van Vleet out of which top State, It's 716 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, Yaka pearlile i Utah. It's all these guys, 717 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: young dudes, but they give such great energy. They play 718 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: up and down, they run you out, They have a 719 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: really good formula, they have versatility in lineups. The Raptors 720 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: I think are great bet to put in for the 721 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference championship, just because if you look at how 722 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: bad Cleveland has and if you get to the point 723 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: where you're just like, there's no coming back from this, 724 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: and I think that they're there, then you start looking 725 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: at the field if you're gonna pick a team out 726 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: of that, and you're not just gonna gonna fade the 727 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Calves with the field, which is what I think is 728 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: I wrote about that a few weeks ago on Action Network. 729 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: That's a great play, But for me, it's Toronto and 730 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: I think Washington and the two value bets that I 731 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: think you can get good money on with their capacity 732 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: to have a better playoff performance than we've seen. You 733 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: had a great note in one of your columns, uh 734 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago about Barbara Rosen is having such 735 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: a great year because of some of the help he's 736 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: getting on picking rolls from guys like Fred VanVleet. Um. 737 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: I thought that was such a nuanced and smart observation 738 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: to explain what you were talking about there. Yeah, Selely, 739 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: in clubs situations, it's pretty great. What they do is 740 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: they run out three guard lineoups with Lowry, van Vleet 741 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: and Derosen with de Rosen at the three. And what 742 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: you're able to do then is you know, teams are 743 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: scheming for that abaka pick and roll or if they're 744 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: playing valanciun is the valencion is pick and roll or 745 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: sam or whoever. They're all schemed up for the big 746 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: so they can switch it or do whatever. But if 747 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: you run them off of a guard guards, point guards 748 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: are more likely to make tactical mistakes and calling out 749 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: switches than bigs are because they have to do it 750 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Wings and wings and 751 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: bigs are the ones that are always calling out switches 752 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: and coverages on picks, and so guards aren't used to it. 753 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: So when you use that guy as a screener and 754 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: you got Jamar de Rosen coming off the edge, you 755 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: want to make sure to get the ball out of 756 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Rosen's hands. So a lot of times the defender is 757 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: coming off and attacking De Rosen. And if even if 758 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: they're switching, that guy is usually a big who's worried 759 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: about the back cut, so he's backing off a van Bleet, 760 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: which means van Bleets got the spacing and they stay home. 761 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: Then De Rosen's got one on one and it's barbecue 762 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: chicken time. It's a really great kind of tactical adjustment 763 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,959 Speaker 1: that they're able to make in terms of we see 764 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: this a lot. The Warriors started this, where if you're 765 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: able to use your guards effectively as screeners, you can 766 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: cause absolute mayhem. And I think doing that in clutch 767 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: time situations because everyone's so used to Okay, Damar is 768 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna isolate and he's gonna take a mid range jumper, 769 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: but he's not doing that this year. He's operating as 770 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: a playmaker. He's operating as as a three point shooter. 771 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: He's a lot more versatile and dynamic and how he's playing, 772 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: which is why I legitimately think that Demarta Rosen belongs. 773 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: He's not the leader that's pretty set at this point, 774 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: James Harden, but Demarta Rosen is a hundred percent. In 775 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: the m v P conversation, Well, there's such an interesting team. 776 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: You mentioned their bench but which nobody knows, but um, 777 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: they're an interesting team because Demarta Rosen like he's committed 778 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: to that franchise in that city in a way you 779 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: would not expect someone to commit when they've struggled in 780 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs and he's from l A and had the 781 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to sign anywhere as one of the you know, 782 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: probably top ten players you know year after year in 783 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: the NBA. What do you think makes that that team click? 784 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: Why did they bond so? Well, they're a really interesting 785 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: case of um, lay a foundation. You make a few 786 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: gambles and you hope it works out, but you gotta 787 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: lay that foundation. If you make the gambles and they 788 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: worked out. But you don't leave that foundation, it's gonna 789 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: fall apart. And if you don't get lucky, it doesn't 790 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: matter the foundation you lay, it's going to go to pieces. Um. 791 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: What was crazy about that team was when they were bad. 792 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: And I actually talked to Damar when they were bad 793 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: back and I think two thousands, like eleven um was 794 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: when I talked to him, and Damar is twelve twelve. DeMar, 795 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, loved Toronto like he had embraced being the guy. 796 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: He took that responsibility more seriously than some other guys do. 797 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: Some other guys are like, I'm a great player, I 798 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: deserve the money. Yeah, I'm the best player. But it 799 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: wasn't about I'm the player for this city. It's I'm 800 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: the best player on this team. It's about that guy. 801 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: And that's okay. Guys have different approaches to their careers. 802 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: But Damar wanted to be a franchise icon. That was 803 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: evident very early on, and you heard that. And he 804 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: formed really strong bonds with teammates, so much so that 805 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: guys like Ed Davis that got traded in Memphis never 806 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: got over it because they were too emotionally invested in 807 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: what that young core was doing. That was what was 808 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: really crazy is like Davis would would have been happier 809 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: in Toronto, which was a garbage team at the time, 810 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: than in Memphis where they were a playoff squad, and 811 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to look to him as to be kind 812 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: of the successor to zeebo Um. That's how close that 813 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: that that locker room dynamic was, and that stuff matters. 814 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: Lowry goes there and de Rosen finds a guy who's 815 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: just as talented and they just click. And what's crazy 816 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: is like Lowry's reputation has always been like he's a 817 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: hot head and he's difficult to work with and he's 818 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: a prickly personality. Now that's cooled over the years as 819 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: he's gotten older and had kids, But in the beginning 820 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: it was like really rough. But he and Derosen clicked 821 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: right away and being able to rely on one another. 822 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: I think it helps that they were both kind of 823 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: the same level of player, where it was like, really 824 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: good could be the best player on a bad team, 825 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: but we don't know how if they could be the 826 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: best player on a good team, and you put them 827 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: together and then playing at the same level, I think 828 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: really put them in a position to succeed um And 829 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: that's why it's really remarkable. It's a cool story that 830 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit that De ros and you know, 831 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: all of this we talked about inside Jerry and Kyle 832 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: Lowry and what they've done. And in Dwayne case, he's underrated. 833 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: But you know De Rosa not just for his on 834 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: court stuff, but for the way that he took over 835 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: his role and embraced that. From a cultural perspective, I 836 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: think that needs to be talked about more as a 837 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: real as a really great thing that he's done. Why 838 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: do you say Washington as one of the better values. 839 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: They are such a better playoff team. So there are 840 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: two I always look at when I'm evaluating the regular 841 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: season at this point in my tenth year, I am 842 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: looking for two things. What's your win loss profile? Because 843 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: that determines whether or not you make the playoffs. Do 844 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: you beat good teams? Do you beat bad teams? Do 845 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: you do get a mix? Are you inconsistent? How do 846 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: you do versus versus schedule wins? How do you do 847 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: when you're injured? All of those type of things. But 848 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: the other thing I look for is formula if you 849 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: go into a playoff series, and you say, to beat 850 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: this team regardless of matchups, we gotta do what we 851 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: do well, which is where all coaches start. And if 852 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: your formula is something that that I can look at 853 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: and say that's sustainable, it can work in a playoff environment. 854 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: It's they've got a solid foundation, it can be consistent. 855 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: They're not subject to whim or or fortune. I can 856 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: believe in this team. Washington's formula has always been really 857 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: good because it's elite level talent that executes well together. 858 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: They have a lot of problems right now there. They 859 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: lost last night to the to the Sixers, but they 860 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: were red hot before, but that was coming off of 861 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: Wall's injury. And there's been so many comments. Uh, okay, 862 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything from Washington. The word around the 863 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: league is that things are pretty bad in the locker 864 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: room between Beal and Wall. That could be exaggerated, that 865 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: could be blown out of proportion. And that's what one 866 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: person inside Washington did say. It was like, that's blown 867 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: out of proportion. But they had at tension two years ago, 868 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: and then they had a great season last year and 869 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: it went away and now we're saying this again. So 870 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: if they're they're like chemically combustible that messes with things, 871 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: but have a little bit of tention help saw a 872 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: lot of teams like those Lakers Kobe's teams. Not to 873 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: compare the two, because obviously the Lakers Kobees dealing were 874 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: a lot better, but that Kobe shack dynamic healthy tension, 875 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: like the Warriors have a healthy tension with Draymond. There's 876 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: got to be a little bit of that, I think 877 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: for some teams to drive them. And Washington has always 878 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: been better in the playoffs than they are on the 879 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: regular season because they are better at finding mismatches and 880 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: exploiting them and punishing teams and playing in an emotional 881 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: environment then running out the Suns on a random Tuesday 882 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: in February. They'd be a great team that they could 883 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: figure out how to do both. But as it stands, 884 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: Washington still in the fourth seed. They're probably gonna be 885 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: a top six seed at worst. And I really like 886 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: the value on what they can do in the playoffs 887 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: when you look at the kind of teams that they're 888 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: going to be facing, like Washington is one of those 889 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: teams where can their coach handle the talent and compostibility? 890 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: Is that a is that something that becomes sort of 891 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: a fatal flaw for them. No, this is what I've 892 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: always been kind driven crazy by this. There are a 893 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of coaches that you put in charge of the 894 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: Thunder they don't make three Western Conference finals in five years. 895 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: I will understand where this narrative comes from, because I'm like, look, 896 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: did the Thunder win because of Russell Westbrook and Kevin 897 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: Durant and not Scott Brooks. Sure absolutely, but a lot 898 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: of of managing top level talent, to me, is harder 899 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: than getting a bunch of guys that are try hards. 900 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: They're just like role players getting into play together. Because 901 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: those guys don't have egos. You have to manage. You're 902 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: not juggling politics. And Scott Brooks was able to get 903 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 1: that team to three Western Conferences in finals in five years, 904 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: one finals appearance and the two years he missed Kevin 905 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: Durant was out and Russell Westbrook was out. When he 906 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: has been like when he has coached teams they make 907 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: at least the second round that they did last year, 908 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: they would have made the Western Conference Finals are the 909 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals last year. Had Kelly Olynnok not had 910 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: literally his career best game. Um, Scott Brooks is is 911 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: a really good coach. I don't think he's done a 912 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: good job as good a job this year, but I 913 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: think that he's a guy that what you want is 914 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: you want a coach that could be like, look, okay, 915 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: you have all this beef, you have all this nonsense, 916 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's stay focused. Do you want to 917 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: win this game or not? And the answer with competitors 918 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: is always yes, Then let's stay focused on what we 919 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: gotta do. Like he can't fix Beal and Wall. The 920 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: idea of of guys being able to do that, I 921 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: think is a myth. Like Phil Jackson managed it better 922 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: than most, but his situation was blessed by kind of 923 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: dynamics of Jordan where there was a clear hierarchy. I 924 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: think Scott Brooks has done a fantastic job and what 925 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: he's don in Washington, And again, he's a guy that 926 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: I look at and say, like, I'll have worries about 927 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: him in a playoff environment. Is he gonna do everything perfect? No? 928 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: But I like the big picture. Well, I look at 929 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: Scott Brooks. God, that is a great analysis. So, um, 930 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: we need to spend two minutes on the Warriors, because 931 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get to every single team 932 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: that I want to get to. You're gonna have to 933 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: come back. Um maybe maybe next week. Uh is sort 934 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: of an All Star version of this. But what is 935 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: going on with the Warriors right now? Is this just 936 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,479 Speaker 1: a classic? This team is fried? As Steve who said 937 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 1: before the All Star Breaker? Is there something more systemic 938 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 1: going on here? So I'm always on the lookout for. 939 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: Is the narrative? Um? Honest? So like with the Calves 940 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: early on, I was one of the big jumpers off 941 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: of the ship where I was like, this is a problem, 942 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: and Everybody's like, yeah, they always do this, They'll be fine. 943 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: I was like, they have never been this bad. Like 944 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: this is a new team with new problems. This is 945 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: a whole new deal. Um. With the Warriors, I can 946 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: honestly say I saw them up close on Saturday in 947 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: Denver talk to the players. Was in the scrumbs of 948 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: the players and coaches, saw them on the floor, the 949 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: body language, the whole thing, teams board, and the biggest 950 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: thing is that for three years they lived to just 951 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: kill everyone. They thrived on. The suns are down. We're 952 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 1: putting Stephan clay back in the game, and we're running 953 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: it up to forty. We're up forty on the thunder. 954 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna see if we can get the sixty. Like 955 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna laugh and talk and dance and everything. And 956 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: they lived for that. The thrill is gone. It's no 957 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: longer exciting to beat Denver, even though Denver has been 958 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: has played them tough the last couple of years. It's 959 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: no longer rewarding to beat down. Okay, See, that's not 960 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: to say that, Okay, so he didn't play well last night. 961 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: They did. And it's not to say that there aren't 962 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: legit issues with the Warriors. Their bench is bad. For 963 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: the first time I think we can say in the 964 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr run, the Warriors have a bad bench. David 965 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: West and Andrea Goodala are too far past. They've they've 966 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: gambled on Nick Young and JaVale mcgeek as well. It's 967 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: kind of heat check. And the young guys are not 968 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: as good as maybe they thought they were in Patrick 969 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: McCaw and Jordan Bell is still inconsistent. So there are weaknesses, 970 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: especially in a regular season matchup. But Draymond Green is 971 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: just simply not there. That's why he's picking up tex 972 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 1: and getting injected. Like he literally said, like he said, 973 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: F this game without the F he said, I this 974 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: game during after a bad call they didn't like in Denver. 975 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: That's where he's been at. His head is just somewhere. 976 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: They are just trying to get to the All Star Break. 977 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be much of a rest for them, 978 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: but a couple of days after go get the mental break, 979 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: get somebody rest, and then come back and finish it out. 980 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: They'll get some more rest days as the season goes on. 981 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: I have zero worries about the Warriors making the finals. Um. 982 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: I think right now though, it's a great opportunity for teams. 983 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we see this all year. They haven't been 984 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: great against the spread they had, They started off really badly, 985 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: they came back up. They're starting to fade again. We 986 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: saw again last night with the double digit spread, but 987 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: they they obviously not only didn't cover, but lost badly. 988 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: Whenever they're big favorites, I think you can fade them 989 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: accurately at this point, just because their level of caring 990 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: about winning those games is so low. God, that is 991 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: a great note bookmakers are not recognizing that because the 992 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: general public is always going to be betting the Warriors 993 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: no matter what the numbers. So that that's something a 994 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: wash floor right there. 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