1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: There's no fucking way right now. Hello, Oh my god, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is Lyle. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: What's up. I'm okay, I'm in the all right, all right. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: I here's the thing. I'm so. I'm in Los Angeles. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: I did a show here the other day, and I 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: have been I've been working on videos, I've been doing stuff, 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: and I just like I got and the checkout of 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: my hotel. All right, I'm in the parking lot of 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: a Raws Dress for Less, sitting in the backseat of 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: my car because I need to record this podcast. 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: Before I get on a plane. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: And honestly, I feel pretty I got the air conditioning 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: on I have. I don't really, I don't have Wi Fi. 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: So I got the fucking I I'm doing. Have you 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: ever done the the mobile hot spoties? 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I got the hot spot. 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm holding my I got a blue yetti microphone resting 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: on my stomach like it's a table, Like it's a table, And. 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: I'm just in the backseat of my car. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm literally just there's a fucking shopping cart 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: like directly to my left, blocking my ability to get out. 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: I have I'm gonna have to win this is when 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm done recording this show, I'm gonna have to like 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: crawl into the front seat of. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: The car and get out that way. 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: So this is. 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: No Jack Carrouac's life. No Jack Carouac was doing way 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: cooler things than uh then procrastinating his work in the 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: back seat of a fucking uh in a raw stress 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: for less. 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell you what I'm seeing. It's 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: just it's kind of nice. Actually weirdly, I don't know why. 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: It's it feels like it's dynamic. You know, there's people 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: all around me. There's I have you ever been to 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: Los Angeles? 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: No? Never, but I want to go. 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: It's an objectively tear. Oh god, there's a parking attendant coming. Wait, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: hold on. His name is Brian. He works for Treader. 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Joe's okay, okay, he just holy shit. He literally just 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: ignored me, took the shopping cart and is now bringing 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: it back. 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: To the cart return. 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: You're saved, Yeah. 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: So I can get out this way now. He just ignored. 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: He just didn't even make eye contact. He just bring 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: it back to the return. There's a car next to 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: me with all that that's stopped and parked. There's four 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: people sitting in it. They have the windows, they have 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 3: the doors open, and they're smoking. I'm gonna assume they're 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: smoking weed. I don't think people don't really smoke. Yeah, 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: it's California, and people don't really smoke weed in cars. 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, people don't really smoke SIGs and cars. 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Like cigarette? 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Do I like cigarettes? I like a cigarette? 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: If I'm uh, okay, Here's where I'm at with cigarettes, 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: is I I've never in my life bought a pack 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: of cigarettes. I don't think I ever will. But if 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: I'm standing around some whatever, especially like you know, if 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: it's a party environment, if I've had a drink or 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: two and somebody offers me a cigarette, I'll have a cigarette, 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't go out of my way 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: for them. Do you do you smoke cigarettes? 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Well, uh yeah, but similar thing 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: for me. It's like a social thing, you know, when 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: you're out with people. It's the presence of it. It's 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: like a connective activity. 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean weed is like that too. But 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: uh do I do smoke weed? 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, not as much, but I do. 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does a b C you, I, dude, I 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: have this recurring cycle where like I think we we 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: just gives me this crazy anxiety and it just makes 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: me like have panic attacks and shit, But I still 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: do it because because four out of every five times 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: I smoke it, I don't have a panic attack and 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: it's chill. 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Correct. Yes, no, that's the same for me. It's like 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it's weird. It's like you tell yourself this time will 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: be different, and it ends up when it's different, it 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: like reiffies your preconceived notions, and then when it makes 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: you a panic attack, you're like, I'm never doing this again, right, 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: you do it again? 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: But dude, I don't know about you, but I have Okay, 84 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: I've determined certain. 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Formulas with it. 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: Maybe this could beg I know a lot of our 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: listeners smoke weed, so maybe this could be helpful to them. 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: I've determined a formula for it, which is like there's 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: a lot of variables as to whether or not I'll 90 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: have a panic attack, and I okay. For me, it's 91 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: like never during the day if I always I'm and 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: I make this mistake all the time, like I'll get 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: high before I go to the airport, or I'll get 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: high before I go grocery shop. Like it's the classic 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: trap of like, oh, I'll get high and then I'll 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: do this, and every time, like all gain before I work, 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: every time it ends up bad. Every time it ends 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: up bad. I'm not able to do the shit that 99 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: I need to do. 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: But if I do it. 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: Late at night with you know, preferably either alone or 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: around people that I really really really trust and feel 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: comfortable with, and I'm in a like a controlled environment. 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: I don't have to go anywhere, I don't have to 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: do anything, I don't have to talk to anyone, and 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: it's the end of the night. I don't have any 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: work to do, I don't have any like calls, so 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: out of nothing, it's almost always good. The panic attacks 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: happen when I'm like, yo, before we go to the movies, 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: it'd be so it'd be awesome to smoke yo before 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: we go to the fucking laser tag or whatever whatever 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: it is you're doing, right, it's like a I don't 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: I don't remember last time on at Laser Tag, but 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like before you like, oh, 115 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: we're at the lake house, Like let's smoke weed, you 116 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: know whatever it like, whatever it is like if you're 117 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: in like a social situation or a thing where it's 118 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: like oh it's see or like oh, before we go 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: on a hike, let's you know, go smoke, like any 120 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: of that kind of shit. 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: It always ends up bad. It always ends up bad. 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, It's like for me, I feel like it 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: has to be a spontaneous thing, like right would have 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: been the best for me. It's like I'm going to bed, 125 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I might as well take a gummy, you know, versus 126 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: like all right, right right out, people gotta be here. 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: I gotta do it for this event, and it puts 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: expectations and that's what brings down the experience. 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: You too, dude. 130 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: So I was at the airport the other day and 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: I got high before going into the airport. And that 132 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: was a bad idea because there was like I was 133 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: walking around, I didn't know where the security line was, 134 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: and I just kind of saw I just kind of 135 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: like started going into the first I saw this lane 136 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: that had attendance on it, and I was like, Okay, 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: this seems like a security line. And I walk into 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: it and the two attendants they like look at me 139 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: for a second, and we stand there for like a 140 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: good like count to three and then they look at 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: me and they're like, uh, special needs. 142 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: And I realized this. 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: I realized I accidentally went into like the special needs 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: security line without without realizing it, and I was like. 145 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I just walked away. Here's you know what. 146 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: By the way, Okay, here's another panic attack tip for 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: anyone who has it. 148 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Maybe this can help you. 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 3: Okay, So this I've decided, like if I'm having a patent, 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: if I'm freaking out, especially if it's like I'm in 151 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: public and I'm like feeling weird, I do have this 152 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: thing where I can make myself think that I can't 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: do this on command all the time, but sometimes I can. 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: I can just decide in any moment that I don't 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: have to care about anything. 156 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed that. It's it's like it's almost like 157 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: that philosophy in life, where like you can just choose 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: what makes you upset, and in those moments it's hard, 159 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: but you can just be like, oh, I'm not freaking out, 160 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: like I choose to be fine. Yeah, remember it. Yes. 161 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: Also, also it's like because like all right, Tom, and 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: they like you're in the airport, you have a panic 163 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: attackt oh God, And I look weird. I'm like messing 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: with the flow of the traffic, I'm going to the 165 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: wrong line, I'm you know whatever, and I'm just to sad. 166 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so I'm I'm a fucking weird, crazy person. 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: First of all, no one's looking at me, No one cares. Also, 168 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: I keep coming back to this being kind of like 169 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: being like weird or awkward. 170 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world. So yeah, I'm 171 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: just like, all right, I went into the wrong thing. Yeah, 172 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: go ahead, Yeah, sorry. 173 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: Something you've said actually has really stuck with me, which 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: is like there's one million worse things to be than annoying. 175 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh yes, right off, But like, no, this is like 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I have some family. 177 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: You say what Oh I said, there's no topic, go off, 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: go anywhere. This is a free, free, free play. 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Indeed. Yeah, but it's like I got I got family, 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, you can't choose your family, and like they're annoying. 181 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: They're my age, and I realize, like being annoyed is 182 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: so much better than being vindictive or yes, having vallice 183 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: anything like that. It's like you can just choose to 184 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: ignore that, you know what I. 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: Mean, Yes, yes, totally one hundred percent. No, I agree. 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: I think being because we all know people who are 187 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: like well, because we all know people are dicks, and 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: then we all know people who are just like, this 189 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: guy's kind of annoying. 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't really want to be around him, but. 191 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: Like you can, like, he's not malicious or hostile, and 192 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: I just I don't, I truly, I will die on 193 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: the hill. I don't think being annoying is that bad 194 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: compared to all the things that there are to. 195 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: Be Yes, yeah, no, and I I refully I think 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: that there's It's like what we were saying about. You 197 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: can choose what bothers you. You can choose to tune 198 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: out the annoying dude. You know, it's hard to tune 199 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: out someone who's actively being malicious, actively being a dick, 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so much easier to be like, this 201 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: is annoying. I'm going to choose to just not let 202 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: it get to mm hmmmm. 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: What's your name? 204 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: My name is Noah. 205 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: Noah. 206 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: I like, you know, you're a good guy, I assume, 207 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: and it's okay. If not, we can totally just keep going. 208 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: There's a mattress firm. Do people go, like, when's the 209 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: last time you bought a mattress. 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: Fucking dude. I was like, twelve, this is not. 211 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: An ad for purple mattress. But I keep seeing the 212 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: purple mattress and it looks cool. I want to try it. 213 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I think it's a marketing thing because 214 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: it's unique and it's a little bit apparant and so 215 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: you're like, huh that draws my attention. 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fucking genius that some guy was just like, Yo, 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: what if we made it purple? 218 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your appeal. 219 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: You're totally You're one hundred per correct. You're one hundred 220 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: percent correct. 221 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: I look, I very accidentally I looked at the giant 222 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: landscape of white guy podcasters with beards, and I was like, 223 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: what if I make it green instead. 224 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: And it's successful? 225 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay? 226 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: No? 227 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: What? 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh you? 229 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 230 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: Well okay, I wanted to ask you, was there something 231 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: in particular you wanted to talk about. 232 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: It's okay. If not, we can just keep I can 233 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: keep talking about this part or on. 234 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, crazy time in my life. So, uh, 235 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm nineteen and I successfully bagged a twenty five year old. 236 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, dude, you're nineteen. 237 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: I would have thought you you sound like a like, 238 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: uh uh, you sound like you're my age man. 239 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: Hey you bagged it? How old? 240 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: Twenty five? 241 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Okay, how'd you guys meet? 242 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: So let's see, not identifying too many factors. I'm part 243 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: of like an ethnic community in a majority white state. 244 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: And so you find each other and you form these 245 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: strong connections. It's really small melting pot, if you will. 246 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: And I've been seeing or go to these things years 247 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: and years, and she's always been like in a literary sense, 248 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: like the object of desire, you know, kind of like 249 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: in a funny bit, because she's so much older than me. 250 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, going to this party, hanging out 251 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: with her, I get her number. We start chatting. You know, 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I join a group, like a ethnic dance group, cultural 253 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: dance group. She's there every week, and every night we're 254 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: up until one two in the morning, texting, hang out. 255 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: We're going to get coffee last night, take her to 256 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: a nice dinner. I go to the park. You know, 257 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: I tell her how I feel, and you know it 258 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: worked out. So I'm honestly in ecstasy right now. 259 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Whow interesting? Okay, Okay, so you told her how you feel. 260 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds romantic. It sounds romantic. Is this 261 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: your first? 262 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Like? 263 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Is your first like girlfriend? 264 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: No, so I actually had I've had one long term relationship, 265 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: few different flings and whatnot. She's not my girlfriend yet, 266 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: but we're just hanging. 267 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Out, okay, nice man? Yeah, I mean shit, dude, fucking 268 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: if you're with a lady that you like and there 269 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: doesn't appear to be any like glaring problems, I mean glad. 270 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a relationship with zero problems whatsoever. 271 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Hundred one hundred percent. But I mean shit, man, when 272 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: you're in the early stages of something and you're just 273 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: like chilling and enjoying being with each other, it's you know, 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: it's nice, dude, Just fucking get enjoy it. 275 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just enjoy it. Just enjoy life. Just enjoy life. 276 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what is this? 277 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: Oh? 278 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, you go ahead, I sis I was 279 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: just gonna keep you. Sounded like you had something you 280 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: wanted to say. 281 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: I want to hear it, all. 282 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Right, Bet there's there's something that Oh fuck, was I 283 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: going to say? Oh yeah, there's like a driving force 284 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: behind how I see love. It's kind of like a 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: recovering addict. Take it one day at a time. You 286 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: put too many expectations and you're bound to fail. You 287 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: take every day and you go, do I love this person? 288 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Do I want to be with this person? What does 289 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: today look like? And my experience has led to a 290 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: much more fruitful bond between people. 291 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: Interesting. 292 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because I'm still trying to figure 293 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: this out because I, on one hand, I do believe 294 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: with love it's like you take it day by day. 295 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: But there's but there's also the idea of like commitment, 296 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, commitment requires you to 297 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: actually not take things day by day in some sense 298 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: because if you take because if you're like fully committed 299 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: to something, then you really you kind of can't take 300 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: it day by day because you might wake up one 301 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: day and be like, today, I don't really like this person, 302 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: I don't really like this life. I'm not really interested 303 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: in this. But you know, you have the committed factor, 304 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: especially if like you have fucking kids or you know, 305 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: you're married or whatever. Like the commitment aspect of it 306 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: almost makes it so that you can't take it day 307 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: by day. 308 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 309 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: And I don't, dude, I don't have an answer to 310 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: that question, right because I do think yeah, but but 311 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: also but like if you take. 312 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Shit year by year or whatever, Like. 313 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: You know, commitment is kind of almost commitment is like 314 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: there for as like a little bed of like foundation 315 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: of a thing because if you take shit, because you 316 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: might take shit day by day. Like let's say you're 317 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: with someone you having problems, really fucking frustrated, and like 318 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: in that moment, you're just like, oh, fuck, I I 319 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: can't I can't do this, I can't handle this anymore. 320 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm really debating whether or not that moment is trying 321 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: to tell you something. Or there's a guy yeah, uh, 322 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: there's a guy's right outside of my window who is 323 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: staring at me in like uh, this guy is recording 324 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: a podcast and the seat of his car and the 325 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: Ross Stress for Less kind of a way. 326 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: He's got a yellow watch on. That'd be awesome if 327 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: this guy. 328 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: If this guy a spongerby watch, I would talk to him. 329 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: But no, he does. I don't think he wants still 330 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: talk to me. 331 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I should interview people and then maybe after you 332 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: I'll just interview people in the Ross dress for Less. 333 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: Hey you want to do I'm doing a podcast in 334 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: my I just roll up. I'm like, hey, I'm recording 335 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: a podcast in my car get in. 336 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Dude, I I look, you really fuck with your I 337 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: r L podcast, So you should do that. 338 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: I do want to do more. I do want to 339 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: do more of the I r L ship. Okay anyway, anyway, anyway, Yeah, 340 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: the commitment thing kind of keeps you going because like 341 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: the day to day of certain things can signed like 342 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: you're never gonna have like and again, dude, this is 343 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: something I swear. This is not like advice. 344 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm going out of the show because it's just something 345 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: I'm like trying to figure out in my own life. 346 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Still is the thing of like over the long haul, 347 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: like like how much how much of your life should 348 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: be run by like discipline and commitment and this kind 349 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: of rigidity, because that's what kind of keeps you because 350 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: your day to day, especially if you're like someone like me, 351 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: it was just like fucking like ADHD and crazy. It's 352 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: like you have your good days, you have your bad days. 353 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: You have days we were like I don't know if 354 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: I can do this anymore, and you have days we're like, oh, 355 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: this is all I want to do. This is only 356 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: you know. 357 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. 358 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't have an answer to that, but But anyway, 359 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: all that's to say, all that's to say. 360 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: You should enjoy, uh, I mean for you, like you know, 361 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: you're not. 362 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: You don't seem like you're at a point where you're 363 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: making like crazy serious life decisions or whatnot. You're just 364 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: like kind of dicking around. Like for you just say yeah, yeah, 365 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 3: for you, just enjoy the moment, man, And you should 366 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: totally enjoy the day. 367 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: Her and I spoke about this yesterday actually, because she's 368 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: at a point in her life where she's a career woman, 369 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: no kids to quote how this canbino, and she wants 370 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: to kind of settle down, find a husband, by a home, 371 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: you know that type of thing reads the family. And 372 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm just starting out right, But there's kind of a 373 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: beauty in this amorphised space we occupire where there's like 374 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: a mutual attraction and a mutual understanding that's pushing us 375 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: to take it slow and kind of exploratory, even though 376 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: we're atfferent points in our lives. I think it's almost poetic. 377 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Interesting. Now, are you guys going, does she know that 378 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: you're like, I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't 379 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: know what you want to do with your life, But like, 380 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: does she know that, Like you're I mean, do you 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 2: do you want to do that stuff with her? 382 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. And that's where the ticket day by 383 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: day comes in, you know, like I'll continue to hang 384 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: out with her, continue to text her, see how I feel, 385 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: see how she feels, and then readjust my expectations and 386 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: obligations is necessary, you. 387 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: Know, Okay, cool, I think she's on the same page 388 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: as you. 389 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, we talked about it at length, Like, I, uh, 390 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: that's how I That's how I've been regulating my romantic life. 391 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: Is just like being on the same page as explicitly 392 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: as possible. Yeah, the more that you're you're doing that, 393 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: it avoids any sort of misconceptions about where two people 394 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: are going. 395 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally. 396 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: And also you just like yeah, if you're not, if 397 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: you don't say, you just like kind of fuck yourself 398 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: and like you know, you wanna ideally, uh, life should have. 399 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: This is just stuff I'm like learning as I'm navigating 400 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: being a person. It's like, uh, I like, I'm the 401 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: happiest when my life has like uh, you know, I 402 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 3: like I like when life has challenges, but I do 403 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: like when it has tensions, you know, when it has like, yeah, 404 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: dissonances or things where it's like, oh this thing. You know, 405 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: things bubble up and explode and it's not uh, you know, 406 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: you want to try to massage out the the tensions 407 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: of your life. 408 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's good to have chat. You're you're always 409 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: gonna have. 410 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: You're always gonna have like fucked like just I I 411 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: think I'll always talk about like the kind of just 412 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: general dynamicism of life. 413 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: And like, you know, there's a guy right next to me. 414 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: He's taking a This guy is standing directly in front 415 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: of my car. I could kill him right now. He's 416 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: like he's just standing on the phone. 417 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: Everything is so practical. 418 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is he's standing underneath. This is 419 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: actually nice trees in the sparking lot. I'm this generator. 420 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: I really have to poop, but I don't think that's 421 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: gonna happen until I don't think I have to finish 422 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: this and then it goes straight to there. I don't 423 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: think I'm gonna be able to poop for like two hours. 424 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: I think that there's a dynamic. Yeah, life has like 425 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: this dynamicism, and I have all these existential thoughts about like, oh, 426 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: you know, like you can't really like you know, like 427 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: life being a series of going like well when X, 428 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: then why like when this calms down, then I'll feel 429 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: this way, or when that comes down, I'll feel this way. 430 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: And obviously the whole idea of like delaying happiness or delaying. 431 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Contentment or whatever is a myth, but it's. 432 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: Also I also, dude, low key think it's kind of not, 433 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I do think I 434 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: do think it's low key not because there are some 435 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: times there are just like tensions. You know, there's things 436 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: where like I mean certain shit where it's like, you know, 437 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe you're in a relationship shouldn't be 438 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: and you're in a job that you hate, you're in 439 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: a this that the earth, Like, there's just certain like 440 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: I do believe in like genuine misalignments in life that 441 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: you're kind of constantly having to correct and uh whatnot. 442 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 3: And I do I do believe that you you feel 443 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: better in your gut when you correct those misalignments. You know, 444 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: I mean, at a certain point you do have to 445 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: learn to be okay with some version of your life, 446 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: but you do want to keep you know, correcting misalignments 447 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: or else you just die. 448 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: There's a push and pull. There's a push and pull 449 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: of like an appropriate amount of struggle to keep you 450 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: going and to keep yourself learning and also being okay 451 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: with where Yeah, because the two extremes either it's complete 452 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: complacency or it's constant stress, and neither of those are 453 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: healthy to have. So it should be like a healthy 454 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: amount of correctiveness in your life, you know. 455 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: Okay, my hot spot all right, So I have a 456 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: problem is that I I have twenty percent battery left 457 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: on this my phone, and I can I can connect 458 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: it to a charger. But if I connect it to 459 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: the charger, it turns on airplay and it starts blasting music. 460 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: And the way that the car works, I don't actually 461 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: know how to turn the music off. So there might 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: just so you know how we normal basically, you know 463 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: how we normally have put Boston Nova underneath the podcast. 464 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: Maybe this time there might just be instead of like 465 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: the Boston Ova track, it will just be Boston Nova 466 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: blasting in my. 467 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: Car and I have to talk over it pretty like loudly. 468 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like like when you're at a bar with someone, 469 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: you're chatting with them make you more immersive. 470 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a good head on your shoulders though, 471 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: what's your what's your way? Okay, so you're in like 472 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: anth when you say ethnic community, like what are you 473 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: Native America Filipino? 474 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm yeah. So there's I'm in a state where 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of us, and so we kind 476 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: of have all of us really band together. Everybody knows everybody, 477 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like people that you're 478 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: not related to your cousinly Yeah, there's there's a terms 479 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: tita and tito, which mean auntie and uncle and all 480 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: of the elders you call them tita who tita, tito whomever? 481 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: Because it's like you have a bond, you know, it's 482 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: a community. 483 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: Muh what part of what state is this? 484 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Utah? And no I'm not Morman okay. 485 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: We Mormonism is mainly it's mainly white people who are Mormons, 486 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: right correct. 487 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: And people of color who have been convinced that their 488 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: non whiteness is a factor of sin. 489 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: WHOA really yes? 490 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: So until the nineteen seventies, the church actually made it 491 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: a sin to be black? WHOA? 492 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: So friends, oh said, well, yeah, there's a uh because 493 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: there's a line in have you ever seen the Book 494 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: of Mormon the South Park Guy's musical, I've not. 495 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: There's a line in it where they go, like, in 496 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight, God changed his mind about black people. 497 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: That's correct, Yes, that is correct. 498 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: What happened to do you know what happened in Yeah? 499 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: I always heard that lot of is what happened in 500 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight. 501 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: Well, the church changes doctrine, and they seem to be 502 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: doing that a lot, kind of at the whims of whatever, 503 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: the whims of culture and the whims of politics, which 504 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: makes me investigate the very premise of a divine word 505 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: if it can be so fickle, but so be it. 506 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: Interesting? 507 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: Do you know a lot of like damn? Wait, so 508 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: in does that still happen? Does the Mormon Church still 509 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: like convince people that not being white is a sin? 510 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: Not at all, but it's it's definitely an unspoken culture 511 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: of exclusivity, if you know what that means. Yeah, So 512 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: if you are non white and you are not Mormon 513 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: in Utah, you have a hard time fitting in because 514 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: whiteness and Mormonism kind of like you're kind of born 515 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: inherently with a strong, tight knit community. And so not 516 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: only are you not part of the dominant religion, but 517 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: you're also part of a disfavored ethnic group, and so 518 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: it makes it really hard to find your people, you 519 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And even in even in the 520 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Mormon Church, no majority of people are white, and so 521 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: it's like I'm actually walking by one right now. It's funny. 522 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: And so it's like there's a presumption of patriarchy, leadership 523 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: prestige that comes with being a white male that's not 524 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: afforded to other. 525 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: People whoa So, how many Filipino people are in this city, 526 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: this town in Utah. 527 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: It's a great question. I don't know the numbers. Probably 528 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: a few thousand, but yeah, it's not huge. But we're 529 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: pretty strong bonded, you know. 530 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: And I and you're telling me, you're telling me all 531 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: a thousand of those people that like literally know each other. 532 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's like it's an ill defined kind of 533 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: nebular king. But it's like you grow up and you know, 534 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people that look like you. 535 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: You form those bonds where you can't. And so a 536 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of us know each other. Like I said, joined 537 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: a group recently, a dance group, and it's like Oh 538 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: are you so and So's daughter? Oh do you know 539 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: uncle so and so? And it's like everybody tries to 540 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: get to know each other, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 541 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: are you the I met this girl at was like 542 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: that the person celebrating the party is like my mother's godmother, right, 543 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: but she's like a fucking like matriarch in the community. 544 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: There was like one hundred people there, you know, and 545 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: it's just like everybody knows her through knowing someone and 546 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: because of those bonding events, it creates like a dense, 547 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: interdependent social network. Hmmm. 548 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Interesting. 549 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So are all are all of your friends 550 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: also Filipino or do you have a lot of different 551 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: Are they half? 552 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: Are they? Is your friend group like half Filipino, half white. 553 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: It's a bunch of different people. There's a lot of 554 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: wages in Utah, but no, I just I surround myself 555 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: by whomever. I go to university. There's not a lot 556 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: of us there, so my Filipino friends usually come outside 557 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: of the university. So yeah, it's interesting. 558 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: What do you study in the university. 559 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm a triple major, so French, triple ethnic studies. Correct. 560 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: I will be. 561 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: Graduating French, French political science and ethnic studies. 562 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: Correct? 563 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: And what do you what? What do you hope to 564 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: do to for a job? 565 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Law school? Man? 566 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh? Cool, you sound very smart. I think you're going 567 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: to be a good lawyer. 568 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I thank you. 569 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: You sound very sorry. Are you going to do if? 570 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: Are you going to do French law? 571 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I thought about it, but it's an entirely different legal 572 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: system over there and even in other frank Of countries, 573 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: and so it's hard because I'm getting used to my 574 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: state's legal system and the federal legal system, which is 575 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: completely different than frankopon once. We completely different. We share 576 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: some common law attributes, but you literally have to sit 577 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: down and learn an entirely different set of laws than 578 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: your own. You know, they've got nobilla rights. Mm hmm. 579 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: What kind of law are you going to do? 580 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I think immigration law, so I 581 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: want to do my family's immigrants. 582 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: So pretty good, pretty good man. 583 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Hey, listen, man, I I'm at a mother's day 584 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: thing and uh. 585 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm no, I'm pretty busy too. I'm pretty 586 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: busy too. Yeah we should, un yeah, pretty we should. 587 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things first, I've been longtime listener, 588 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: longtime fan, first time. Uh yeah, I'm going to your 589 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: show and salt. 590 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: Like your like rock and roll. 591 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, great, yes, And uh, I just want to say, like, 592 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: I think you do really good work. I think part 593 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: of your appeal is that you are You're just a 594 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: real ass dude working with real things. You know. I 595 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: feel like therapy could be really like academic and oh 596 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: why do you feel that way? But you're working your 597 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: way through life just like all of us, and so 598 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: your wisdom is very like grassroots if you follow my meaning. 599 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, thanks man, Thanks man. 600 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: Today my wisdom is h is parking a lot pavement 601 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: routs and yeah, no, I I know. I I appreciate you, man, 602 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much for saying that. You're 603 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: you're You're a You're like an actually smart guy. You've 604 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: got academic you know sh about things. Keep keep your 605 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: soul pure, my friend. Keep uh keep doing your thing. 606 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: Brother. 607 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: You you you're you're like uh, I don't know, you're 608 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: like a it's just gonna sound weird, but you're you're 609 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: like a like a ball of pure light. I don't 610 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: know why I'm saying that right now, but I do 611 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: feel that way. I think you're gonna be okay. Don't 612 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: do anything crazy or stupid. Just keep going. 613 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you. You're like a ball of green light. 614 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: That's thanks man, Thanks man. All right, Happy Mother's Day. 615 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: Tell your mom, I said, I said, Hi, we'll do Hey. 616 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: He doesn't know me, but there go ahead to requests 617 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: go to the. 618 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Philipines to do your documentaries. First off. Second off, jpig 619 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: Mafia on your show. Bro, you got Danny Brown, you 620 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: got sucking Anthony Fantano. Where ja at? 621 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: He said, he said he was going to do it. 622 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: He didn't responds I got an alcoholic and crazy. 623 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: But well, hey, we got we got, we got things 624 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: to we got things to therapy about. If ja Pig Mafia, 625 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: If you're listening, I'm down to hang out whenever and 626 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: you can. 627 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: You know it's sorry. Well anyway, oh by the way, 628 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: by the way, I don't want to go to the 629 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: philip I because I know you gotta go, but it's 630 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: too hot. 631 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: I can't handle it. I'm sure, I'm sure it's beautiful. 632 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's beautiful. But like I went to Thailand 633 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: and I went to Brazil in December, and I like 634 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: that climate. I can't exist in it for more than two. 635 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: Wait, when's it? 636 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: When's the when's like the coldest time to go to 637 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: the Philippines? Does there even exist one? 638 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: They don't have four seasons like us. They have wet 639 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: season and dry season. If you go in December, that's 640 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: when it's like the most bearable. And also for your 641 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: podcast purposes, I mean, their Christmas celebrations start in September 642 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: and go through into January, and it's every day, these enormous, 643 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: like beautiful celebrations. It could be cool for you to see. 644 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: So okay, okay, all right, all right, it's all. Philippines 645 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: is on the list. Philippines is on the list. 646 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah? 647 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, thank you very much. No, I'll 648 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: see you around the universe. 649 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the universe. Bro, have a beautiful day. 650 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 2: I will, I will. I'll tell our caller. I'll call 651 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: her right now. Awesome, see that, man, See you man, 652 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: see you later. Brother. I like to know. I know 653 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: it's a good guy. 654 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: Man. 655 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm still in this parking lot. Uh, the 656 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: car is on. 657 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: It's only dangerous to hang out in a parked car 658 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: for a long time while it's on if you're in 659 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: like a garage, right, not if you're in a parking lot. Dude, 660 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: no offense if you live in Los Angeles. But I 661 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: can't stand. I mean no, Los Angeles is fine. I 662 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: just can't stand like cars and big parking lots and shit. 663 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: It makes you feel weird. I feel like I'm in 664 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: a a cage or something. You know, there's too many cars. 665 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: I gotta I know, someone educate me on this. Someone 666 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 3: call it and educate me on this, because I know 667 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: it's a thing. What's up with the whole thing of 668 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: like America is the way it is because of like 669 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 3: lobbying from Ford. Does anyone know about that shit? Callin, 670 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: let's talk about it. I feel myself. I feel myself 671 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: about to go on a Wikipedia loop about lobbying in 672 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: the automotive industry and how that and how I have 673 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: that I have the lobbying on behalf of the automotive 674 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 3: industry to the US government is what I have to 675 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: blame for me recording a podcast in this TJ Max parking. 676 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: Lot right now. 677 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: I know I said earlier it was a ross parking lot, 678 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: but it's it's a parking lot. 679 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: It's got a Panera. 680 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm looking I'm looking right now at I'm looking at 681 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 3: a Panera, a Trader Joe's, a mattress firm, a TJ Max, 682 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: and a Ross. 683 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 2: And I think it's a collective. I think that. 684 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: No one store is like kind of sticking their dick 685 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 3: out enough that you can call it that store's parking lot. 686 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: They all have a presence. I'm thinking about going into 687 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: the Trader Joe's to get malted milk balls hot to 688 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 3: all like. 689 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: The health places. For some reason, the health places all 690 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: have the best candies. The unhealthy stuff at the healthy 691 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: places is always the best. 692 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 3: No, I shouldn't get the I'm not gonna get the 693 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: molted milk balls. They're too far away. I'm parked kind 694 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: of towards the back of this parking lot. All right, 695 00:35:52,560 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: let's say we'll take another call. Oh, hey, what's up? 696 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: Man? 697 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: Is this? 698 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Uh? 699 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: Kevin? 700 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 701 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: This is him? Sorry? I know this is weird. 702 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 3: I just sometimes when I record the podcast, I'm like, 703 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: I think about like making an Instagram story to be 704 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: like yo, people call me, but I have all these 705 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: people who've just texted me, and you texted me like 706 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 3: three days ago, and I'm just randomly calling you back 707 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: after you texted me three days ago, and I'm like, 708 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: I wonder if he'll pick up, and then you did 709 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: pick up, and then you're like, but then I but 710 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: it's like by the time you texted me, you forgot 711 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: what the number is. So you're just like, it's a 712 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: random number. So you're like, so, I'm like, people are 713 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: really gonna pick I don't it is. I don't pick 714 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: up random phone numbers. Like if a random phone number 715 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: text me, I don't pick it up. But I but 716 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: you picked up a random phone number and it is 717 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: a guy that you and the phone number is not 718 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: exactly random, because you did text me two days ago 719 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: for the show and now we're and now we're on 720 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: the show, and you picked up, and so I don't 721 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: know what you're doing on know where you are. I 722 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: don't know who you are. I don't know if you 723 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: care about anything. I don't know what. 724 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. How do you feel right now? How 725 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: do you feel right now? 726 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: Honestly right, I'm just children at home. I went out yesterday. 727 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: But I guess the reason I actually taxed you was 728 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: to talk about my car accident. 729 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: Oh geez, oh, just by the way, just so you know, 730 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 3: just for transparency. I I'm in the backseat of my 731 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: car in address for less parking lot. It would be 732 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 3: crazy if I got hit by a car right now 733 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 3: while you were telling me about you getting hit by 734 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 3: a car. 735 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean probably because I hate a parked car. 736 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: So it you hit up? Wait, dude, that was your car. 737 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: That was your car accident. You hit a parked car. 738 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 739 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh fuck. I'm like here three right now. 740 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: I can start from the beginning if you want. 741 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good place start, all right. 742 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: So, uh well, I actually went to go see your 743 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: show on uh in la or Let the Hollywood Semetis Forever. 744 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: Oh you were at the fucking show two days ago. 745 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was the guy who had the black Ovo 746 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: wind shirt and You're like, oh, is that a Drake thing? 747 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh fuck I and I remember you. 748 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: What's up? 749 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: Man? 750 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: What what did you What did you think of the show? 751 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: I liked it a lot. I actually sent you an email. 752 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you could read it later, but the gist 753 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: of it was like, Hey, I came into it without 754 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: any expectations because I feel like that's the way that 755 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: you should be going into your specific shows, because the 756 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: whole podcast essence is like, we're talking together in this moment, 757 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: having experience, and so that's what I went in with 758 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: it because I had also dragged my girlfriend and she 759 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: knows maybe peripherally, who you were and what the experience was. 760 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: So we both went into it and it was great. 761 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: I think we lost some brain cells from the two 762 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: people that went up there, though. 763 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were, yeah, we had. 764 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: We interviewed two people, and it was two of the 765 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: strangest I've done like hundreds of these shows, and those 766 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: were two of the strangest people that I have interviewed 767 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: doing one of these shows. 768 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: It was Yeah, it was kind of funny. She was like, 769 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: is this normal? I'm like, honestly, I don't know, but 770 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. 771 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 3: How would for the people listening that weren't there, which 772 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 3: is I guess most of them, if not all of them, virtually, 773 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: how would you describe those two people? 774 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: Uh? Concussed? 775 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: Did you all? 776 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: Right? 777 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 3: Let's talk about your car accident? How did you how 778 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: did you get uh, how did you get into a car? 779 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: Ax? 780 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: Whose parked car? Did you hit? And and did they die? 781 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, so I actually was coming back from work. 782 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: I had a night shift, and it wasn't it out 783 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: of the ordinary. I guess I was just more tired 784 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: than normal because I'm a I'm a doctor, I'm a 785 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: resident and so oh cool. I was driving back home 786 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: from work, and for some reason, I was just more 787 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: tired than usual. Like it usually takes me like maybe 788 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: like forty fifty minutes to drive home, but this morning 789 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: was a little more traffic, I guess. But anyways, I 790 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: was coming off the expressway and I was literally less 791 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: than them out from home, and I was on a 792 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: side street. I guess I closed my eyes for a 793 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: couple of seconds, and I rear ended a parked tesla. 794 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 3: How did you it sens here that you totaled the car? 795 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: How did you total the car hitting a parked car? 796 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: Oh wait, how fast were you going? 797 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Like twenty five miles an hour? 798 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't that yet, saw that fast? 799 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: But uh it just like once I went, uh, I guess, 800 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: like passenger side first straight into the rear end of 801 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: one of the of the tesla that was that was parked. 802 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: Just happened so quickly, like one second I'm about to 803 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: make a stop, another second I am spinning in my 804 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: car and. 805 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: All the air bags deployed your super spinning Yeah. 806 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: Like I towards the end of the accident, my car 807 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: was actually turned the opposite way, so instead of going forward, 808 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: my car was now looking in the direction that I 809 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: drove in. 810 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 3: Wait that doesn't whoa, wait, that doesn't make sense. How 811 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: how do you spin out hitting a parked car? 812 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: Your desk is as good as mine, because I woke 813 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: up like, what the fuck happened? 814 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: Did you word? Did you feel concussed? 815 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: No? Luckily, I don't think I hit my head or 816 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: got any whiplash. The worst I got was a bruised hand, 817 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: like sized up to the size of a softball. And 818 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: then I think I got a broken rib mm hmm 819 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of psych Do you have it? 820 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: Do you have a Do you have insurance? 821 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. The issue is because it's a Tesla 822 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: and the Tesla also hit the car in front of it. 823 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, am I gonna get financially ruined from this? Oh? 824 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: Oh? The tesla fucking hit the car in front? Oh no, 825 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 2: are you gonna go? 826 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: Are you go? 827 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: Are you gonna get financially ruined from this? 828 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know that you know that 829 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: meme from fuck uh what's that? Uh? He was? It 830 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: was a Netflix show for the what was he? Oh? 831 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: He was like the Tigers King or whatever? Remember that tires? 832 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh I haven't heard of it. I haven't 833 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 3: heard from the Tiger King in a while. 834 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know that meme that people always use, like, oh, 835 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm never going to financially recover from this. Yeah, That's 836 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: exactly why. 837 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: I thought, do you know how much are you on 838 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: the hook for? 839 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: Do you know? I have no idea. I was dealing with, uh, 840 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: the whole issue afterwards and at that point, like after 841 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: the accident and waiting for everything. I think I was 842 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: up from win twenty four hours at that point, and 843 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: I was just like I was on full adrenaline mode. 844 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: I think I didn't go to sleep until nine pm, 845 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: which was like maybe at that point thirty six hours 846 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: of being awake. 847 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 2: Wow, holy fuck hmm. 848 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: But at this point I'm just waiting. My car insurance 849 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: said that they'll call me on Monday to set up 850 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: an appointment to come into the office and talk about 851 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: next steps. We'll see what happens, because honestly, this is terrible. 852 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: When did this happen? 853 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 854 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 2: Two days ago, two days ago. 855 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Well, fucking thanks for thanks for still coming to the show. 856 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: What the funny thing is years back when you were 857 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: first on Reddit the show. Yeah, yeah, I had actually 858 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: called in and I was screened by I guess one 859 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: of the screeners that used to have like volunteers that 860 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: would screen calls for you, and I had called at 861 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: that time five years ago for a very similar situation. 862 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, did you get in a car accident? What happens? 863 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at the time I was heading out 864 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: to this one. There was like around COVID time, right 865 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: when they were barely opening up the cities again and 866 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: so you were just barely getting traffic on the expressways again. 867 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: I was driving out to drug testing center because I 868 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: had to get a drug test for a job that 869 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: was out of the state, and if I didn't had 870 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: their on time, I would not get the job for 871 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: the year, which would be which would have been detrimental 872 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: to my career, because it was one of those things 873 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: that is required for like if you want to do 874 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: a subspecialty in medicines. Anyways, at the time, I was 875 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: dating with one person and I didn't have a car 876 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: at the time, so they'd let me borrow their car. 877 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: I was driving out to get the drug test, and 878 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: then right in the expressway I rear ended a guy. 879 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: It was a mess. It wasn't terrible. I was going 880 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: like maybe like twenty five miles an hour in any case. 881 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: As soon as that happened, I was trying to figure 882 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: things out with the guy. I find out that she 883 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: didn't have car insurance, and then I was on the 884 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: hook for that. 885 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: Oh geez, dude, you keep getting into you keep getting 886 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: into fucking crazy cars. 887 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: I hate cars too, too. 888 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I was saying this earlier on the show. 889 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 3: Is all right, listen, no did you grow up here? 890 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm in a parking lot in a 891 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: in a Ross dress. I am literally at the you 892 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 3: can if you listen, if anyone, I'm not gonna by 893 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 3: the time this episode comes out, I'm not gonna be 894 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 3: here anymore. But if you search for the Ross dress 895 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: for Less near the Los Angeles Airport, that is where 896 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: I am. Okay, all right, all right, I am literally 897 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 3: sitting in my car in the parking a lot of 898 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: that dress for Less, and I'm just thinking, I mean, 899 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm still here, all right. I've been in La for 900 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: like a week for this for this show, and shit, 901 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if you grew up here, but I 902 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 3: I lived here for a couple of years. I I 903 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: think I get Okay, I get why people like Los Angeles. 904 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: I get it. 905 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: I totally totally go people like Los Angeles. I do 906 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 3: think this is an objectively horrific place to live. 907 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh h, I actually didn't grow up here. I moved 908 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: here for medical school and then I just kind of 909 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: stayed for residency. But objectively, I hate living here because 910 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: it's a horrible place. It's a home, it's a mission 911 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: exact coordinate plane for everything. And I'm like, dude, what 912 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: if I just want to like go see a friend. 913 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to make it a whole ordeal. 914 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: No, it's a whole day. It's a whole day. 915 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 3: I went from the place I was staying to a 916 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 3: place that was like I was meeting someone for lunch, 917 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 3: like five miles away. I swear to God getting there, 918 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 3: parking going to the lunch place, to fucking getting a 919 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 3: thing to park whatever. It was like five it was 920 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 3: like two hundred dollars and five hours to like park eat. 921 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 3: Get It's just it's like it's an insane I mean, listen, 922 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 3: New York is also like has its own like you know, 923 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 3: unreasonably expensive inconvenient stuff, but like, dude, just the cars, man, 924 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: like that just the inefficiency of a city that is 925 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 3: like trying to be a real city but also doesn't 926 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: have the parking infrastructure and is like run by cars 927 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,720 Speaker 3: and there's all and also like there's there's so many 928 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 3: you know when okay, you know when you're following your matt, like, okay, 929 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 3: a city on a grid, right, like you can easily 930 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: kind of figure out how to drive through it. But 931 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 3: you know when like you're following route guidance in your 932 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 3: car and it shows you like a street where you 933 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: have to do like a spindily twiddly do on the 934 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 3: fucking thing, and you're like, I'm not gonna be able 935 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 3: to figure this out. 936 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 937 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, so you gotta get all the 938 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 3: way in the left lane right, and then your exit 939 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 3: is gonna be all the way the right leg. You 940 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: have to cover four lines, like it's just a mission 941 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 3: where you almost die to get fucking anywhere. It's it's 942 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 3: it's a it's an objectively I mean, there's nice parts 943 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: of it, like the fucking you know, Santa Monica is nice. 944 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, except for like that. But there's also I 945 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: mean also this terrible part. 946 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 3: There's like parts of it that like look uh run 947 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 3: down and insane, and there's buildings where you're like, I 948 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 3: think the only thing that I think the yeah they're 949 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 3: killing there's dead bodies in that, like boarded up. 950 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's yeah. 951 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: There's also yeah, go ahead. 952 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: And qualms. I have huge qualms. I have tons of 953 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: theories of why and how things have occurred. I mean 954 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: they're not theories there, it's it's facts of why l 955 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: A is the way it is. It has to deal with, 956 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: of course, the root cause of everything nowadays, capitalism. Yeah, 957 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: and the because back in the day, la did have 958 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: a pretty decent infrastructure for public transportation. But then the 959 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: giant car companies invented the concept of suburbs, and so 960 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: they got people out to the suburbs. That's why we 961 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: have like other towns in the near area that are 962 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: also kind of big. Yeah, sold the idea of and 963 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: in people to drive to work, and so now the 964 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: whole area is built on cars rather than infrastructure for 965 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: public transport. 966 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 3: Dude, I I may I have talked about this in 967 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: the podcast for but like I grew up in a 968 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 3: suburb of Maryland, and it was just all it was 969 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: always my dream. 970 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: It was like always my dream to like walk places. 971 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it was always my dream to have a 972 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: car because I just wanted to, like I just want 973 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: to like freedom, and like when I would meet everyone, 974 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 3: so why I'd meet a kid who like could just 975 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 3: walk to like the seven to eleven and didn't have 976 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 3: to like they didn't have to ask to their parents 977 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 3: for a ride somewhere. They could just meet up with 978 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 3: their friends. I mean, I mean, like you know, I 979 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 3: lived in like a neighborhood where like the neighborhood was walkable. 980 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 2: But like I I do think that. 981 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, to get the spots, you meet a drive. 982 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 3: To get the spot seat that to drive. I do 983 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 3: think it's weird because I grew up that way. So 984 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 3: like I think my mentality for a long time was like, 985 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 3: especially if you live in America, my mentality for a 986 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 3: long time is like, oh, this is how society is 987 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 3: supposed to work. We're all supposed to be in our 988 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 3: cars and like a lot like have kind of like 989 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: our our family unit in our home. 990 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: That's like far away, and I don't. 991 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: The more I'm the more I like, uh, think about 992 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 3: it and feel about it, the more I'm like, oh no, 993 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: we want to live with like in proximity to a 994 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 3: bunch of people that we know, and like the fucking 995 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 3: grocery store is like a walk away. 996 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: Our friends are a walk away, our family is a 997 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: walk like just the way. 998 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the car dude, those car companies the what they 999 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 3: just fucked up society by making it this way? 1000 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And the same theory that you're having, like, oh, 1001 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: everything's to be walkable because I actually I'm from Chicago, 1002 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:23,919 Speaker 1: so I got out of rocks. Excuse me, you don't 1003 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: need it. I never had a car and TI had 1004 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: to la Yeah, I Chicago seat everywhere pretty well, and 1005 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 1: so being able to grow up up until my mid 1006 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: twenties without needing a car because even when I was 1007 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: back in Chicago and I would have to get to 1008 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: work or something, I lived pretty decently near work and 1009 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: I could just bike to work. So I just biked everywhere, 1010 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 1: and if I needed to get somewhere else even further, 1011 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: it was just public transit. Grace. 1012 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Nice. 1013 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: Nice, Yeah, Chicago's a great city of Chicago. Chicago. Chicago 1014 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 3: might be the best city in America. 1015 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 2: Actually, that's why I got everyone. 1016 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: But then they're like, oh, what about the winters, And 1017 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it helps you appreciate life. You 1018 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: can't appreciate the nice weather if you don't have shit. 1019 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 3: Weather, dude, I okay, the winters, Yes, the winters Chicago 1020 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 3: are very brutal, beautiful, are very brutal. But I do 1021 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 3: totally believe in that mindset, like the la Like that's 1022 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 3: one thing. 1023 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 2: Like I will say, like I'm looking outside, I'm. 1024 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 3: Looking at like the weather is very beautiful, but I 1025 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 3: remember when I lived here, It's like the weather is 1026 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 3: nice all the time, And I like I enjoy the 1027 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 3: cyclical nature of a place that experiences all the seasons, 1028 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, like like there is something nice, dude, There's 1029 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 3: there's something that is I think healing about every year 1030 00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 3: you experience a brutal, horrific u enter that literally makes 1031 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 3: you almost kill yourself, and right when you're about to 1032 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 3: do it, right when you're about to, you know, pull 1033 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 3: that fucking trigger. You see the line you literally it's 1034 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 3: like a fucking from the Bible or something you literally 1035 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: see the light and you remember you Every year you 1036 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 3: get to rise like a phoenix from the ashes and go, oh, 1037 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: I forgot that. 1038 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: I love life, Oh my goodness. Whereas like in in 1039 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 2: a place like La or in a place where like 1040 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: There's it's the same weather, You're just at this like 1041 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: kind of same frequency the entire time. 1042 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 3: There's no development, there's no like uh, cyclical change of 1043 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: the feelings and of the experience of just existing. 1044 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's always is, it just always is, just 1045 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: always is. 1046 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the feeling I had, why because when I 1047 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: first moved here, uh for the first couple of years, 1048 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: to be honest, I was kind of depressed. I was like, 1049 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: it's just always sunny, Like there's no there's no of 1050 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: that cycle of life and death, like rebirth of a 1051 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: new thing coming like you can you can phase, you 1052 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: can have phases of your life based on the season. 1053 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: That you can't mark that here in La And so 1054 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: it just feels like a continuum of everything that you're 1055 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 1: going through with the same feelings always. 1056 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 2: Right, there's the there is. 1057 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: I do think life requires having this thing of like, uh, 1058 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 3: it's so over and then we're so back. You need 1059 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 3: to dude, I really, I'm so I fully believe this 1060 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 3: in life, you need to cut Actually, I don't know 1061 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 3: if this is true, but I believe this for me. 1062 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 3: Maybe this works for other like you know, but depress 1063 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 3: people or whatever. But like, you need to have a point. 1064 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 3: You need to have several points in your life where 1065 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 3: you truly just believe that you can't do it anymore 1066 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 3: and then have and then have that be followed by 1067 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 3: a period where you're like, oh, wait, life is awesome. 1068 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 3: I could keep doing this for eighty more years. This 1069 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 3: is great. We're so back. You need to be able 1070 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 3: to have that because then because every time you do that, 1071 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: the next one you're like, oh, I know, I know 1072 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: what this is. 1073 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's a it's a it 1074 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 2: builds resilience, builds resilience. 1075 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're just if it's always the same frequency, 1076 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's kind of like dull and depressing. 1077 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 2: You know, you need to have You need to be 1078 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 2: able to like like like I've had. 1079 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 3: So many more like you Like, you need to be 1080 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 3: able to have moments where you're like experiencing like, uh, 1081 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 3: a version of your life and of your brain that 1082 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 3: you thought is gone forever, because that way, the next 1083 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: time you think it's gone forever, you can go, oh, 1084 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 3: last time, I thought I was gone forever, but it's 1085 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 3: it came back, so it'll come back again. 1086 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: And we're so back and we're so back. 1087 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: It's just worth so it's it's it's all over and 1088 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,479 Speaker 2: we're so back. Just keep going. 1089 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, I car accident. That's gonna be a mess. 1090 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I thought, well, well, we're gonna exactly exactly. We're 1091 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 3: gonna be so back after that. I'm so happy that 1092 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: right before I'm literally about to I just had to 1093 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 3: record this before I getting on the plane. I'm so 1094 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 3: happy that I could this. You're like the last person 1095 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 3: I'll talk to before I leave Los Angeles, and I'm 1096 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 3: so happy that I got to talk to you about 1097 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: how much I hate this city. Also, Gas is seven dude, 1098 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 3: Gas is evand dollars a gallon. 1099 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. I saw nearby 1100 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: here it was like seven thirty and it's. 1101 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 2: Crazy, and uh, I love well. 1102 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: I hate the prices, of course, and I hate driving, 1103 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: but I love being able to point that out to 1104 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: my one of my friends who's a Trump supporter and 1105 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look at the gas prices were never 1106 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: better gas prices ever remember, and he just kind of 1107 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: steps up. 1108 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, it's funny because I remember when 1109 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 3: I mean, when Biden was president, there was like you'd 1110 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 3: go to the pumps and you'd see. 1111 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 2: I mean, but I don't, I don't Actually this. 1112 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: Might be this is maybe a dumb take, but I 1113 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 3: don't think that, like who the president is is really 1114 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 3: like there's so there's so many infinite variables that affect 1115 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 3: gas prices or whatnot. They're like pinning it on one 1116 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 3: guy's kind of whatever. But like you ever seen the 1117 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 3: stick You've seen the stickers that are like by like 1118 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 3: like they're they're by the right, but they put them 1119 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: by the pumps. Yeah, yeah, you put you put them 1120 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 3: by you put them by the pumps. And it's like 1121 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Trump did this, Biden did this. And it is funny 1122 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 3: because you can just you know, you can just whoever's 1123 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: the president, you can just be like they did this. 1124 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 3: I mean whatever, he started a war in Iran, that's 1125 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 3: the whole thing. Woy whatever, who cares? I mean not, 1126 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 3: who cares? 1127 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 2: I care? 1128 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Your right? 1129 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: No, Well, I I mean I went to dude. 1130 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 3: You know what's so funny is I get I went 1131 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 3: to Iraq, which is yeah, I know which is which which, 1132 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 3: if for which, Like people still don't realize that Iraq, Iran, 1133 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 3: and Afghanistan are three different countries, So like I get 1134 01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm I get messages from people all the time they're like, dude, 1135 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 3: it's crazy that the war broke out right before you 1136 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 3: went there, and it's like those are two different countries. 1137 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Like I'll get people, Oh, I love your Afghanistan video. 1138 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 3: You're on video and it's it's it is just it 1139 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 3: must be so frustrating and hilarious for the people. I mean, 1140 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if the people live in there and 1141 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 3: give a fuck about like American's ability to identify their countries, 1142 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 3: but it is extremely funny that just because like they 1143 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 3: sound they they it's just extremely funny the way that 1144 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 3: like those three countries in the. 1145 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Area and then like oh yeah, we'll just sump them 1146 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: all together together, Iraq and the stand. 1147 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1148 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 3: I mean it is I don't know, like I don't know, 1149 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm not like informed enough. I mean, the big difference 1150 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 3: between the I think I think one of the big 1151 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 3: differences between of those three countries. Iraq is definitely the 1152 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 3: most chill because Afghanistan's got like the Taliban going on, 1153 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 3: uh Iran has this like insane fucking evil government. Meant 1154 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 3: that's like killing their own people and ships. I don't 1155 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 3: think that's happening in Iraqi. Yeah, yeah, I don't really 1156 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 3: know what's going on politically in Iraq, but Iraq is 1157 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 3: definitely more stable than Yourn. 1158 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 2: The Therapy Eco podcast, by the way, is not a. 1159 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 3: Good place to get your geopolitical information from this as 1160 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 3: a disclaimer. 1161 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 1: On this show, it really opened up or like on 1162 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: your comedy set show for Netflix, it really changed my 1163 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: perspective on Iraq because I was like, oh, oh yeah, 1164 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: it's actually kind of chill. 1165 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 3: And a bat I will stand by that. Baghdad is 1166 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 3: pretty bag Dad is pretty awesome. It is really chill, 1167 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 3: except and he all right, you'll all right, you'll like this, 1168 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 3: You'll you'll appreciate this. The time I felt the most 1169 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 3: unsafe in Baghdad was when I was in a car. 1170 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 2: That's where because they like lamb and shit. 1171 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 3: Right, there's just there's there's no every I mean, it's 1172 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 3: like this in a lot of places in the world 1173 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 3: with cars in general, but there's no inclination. Nobody is 1174 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 3: thinking that they're driving. Nobody is truly aware of how 1175 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 3: dangerous what they're doing is. When they're driving in Los 1176 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 3: Angeles and in Iraq, it's like there's no tomorrow doesn't exist. 1177 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Let's go one hundred miles per hour. Let's drive on 1178 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 3: the wrong side of the road. It's I mean, it's 1179 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 3: very crazy, but it's not like, you know, I don't 1180 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 3: know what the I don't know what the safe situation 1181 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 3: is like in Iran. 1182 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if. 1183 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if or when I'd go there. I 1184 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 3: mean I like to go there. At some point, I 1185 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 3: want to go. I want to go to Venezuela. I 1186 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 3: got somebody who h was like because everyone was talking 1187 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 3: about Venezuela for about two seconds and then as as 1188 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 3: people do, they move on to some other thing. 1189 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 2: But I got. 1190 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 3: Invited to go there. I still I haven't done enough research. Yeah, 1191 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 3: I liked it before I do these. I'm not like 1192 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 3: a complete idiot, like I try to do research and 1193 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 3: talk to people to get a true gut vibe of 1194 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 3: whether or not it's like safe to go to a place. 1195 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 2: So I still have to do that with Venezuela. 1196 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: But which reminds me. One of the other things that 1197 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about was Japan, because 1198 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: you just went to Japan and I went to Japan 1199 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: about a year ago, and I wanted to get your 1200 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: perspective on Japan because the reason I had went was 1201 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: more of a cultural thing, and I guess vacation, of course, 1202 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: but it was like a planned vacation with my ex 1203 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want to have her 1204 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: ruin my vacation. I'm still going to go by myself. 1205 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Japan's all did you get? You went already? 1206 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Right? Yay? I went. I spent about ten days in Japan. 1207 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: I started in Tokyo and then I went to Kyoto 1208 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: and then Osaka and then Kinosakia, Onsen. It was fantastic 1209 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: on I would say, yeah, go ahead. Well, I was 1210 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, is like that trip in itself was one 1211 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: of the I'd say biggest life changing experiences that I've had. 1212 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 3: Japan's thing is that like, uh, if a utopian society 1213 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 3: is one where like everything works, then Japan is a 1214 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 3: utopian like. 1215 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 2: Like you have an expect like like okay, like. 1216 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 3: It's very interesting because you have kind of an expectation 1217 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 3: depending on where you grew up that like if you 1218 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 3: walk into a store, there will be a person at 1219 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 3: the store who will help you do the thing that 1220 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 3: the store is for. 1221 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 2: And like there's like society is kind. 1222 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 3: Of a big illusion, you know, and like Japan, of 1223 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 3: all places in the world, I think does the best 1224 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: job at upkeeping and maintaining the illusion of society. 1225 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Like like that shit just work. 1226 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 3: Like you go into like a car place that fixes 1227 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 3: your car, and then like you pay someone and they 1228 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 3: do it, and it like you know, like the the 1229 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 3: this the idea of objective the idea of an objectively 1230 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 3: correctly functioning reality is the most alive in Tokyo. I 1231 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 3: like I went to like I I when I got 1232 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 3: back from Tokyo, I went to bodega in uh Brooklyn 1233 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 3: and there's like a there's like a convenience store attached 1234 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 3: to the deli and like it says deli on the 1235 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 3: thing like outside, and I went I was like, hey, 1236 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 3: can I get a sandwich? And they were like, oh, 1237 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 3: the deli guy's gonna be back in a half hour. 1238 01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 3: And it's like and and by the. 1239 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Way, that's how it should That's like how that's how 1240 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 2: like real life is. I think that's how that's a ship. 1241 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 3: That's how shit works in most places around the world, 1242 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 3: but Japan is the most like. 1243 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 2: Again, like the. 1244 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 3: Bowing to the idea of what objectively a society is 1245 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,439 Speaker 3: that does that resonate with you having been there? 1246 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think similar to what you do when you 1247 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: travel to places. I did a lot of research because 1248 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, but I feel like 1249 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: sometimes what people do when they go on vacation, they 1250 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: go on vacation to turn off their brain and then 1251 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: they expect wherever they're going to be that they're served, 1252 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, everything on the platter. They're there to be 1253 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: sort of like the kings and stuff that. To be honest, 1254 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a terrible way to go about 1255 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: things when especially if you're traveling to a foreign country 1256 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: with a different cultural expectation. So what I did was, I, 1257 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of course I did a lot of reading and learning 1258 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: about the culture because I don't want to be disrespectful 1259 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: when I got there, and you know, I was gonna 1260 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: be by myself, and I don't want to be like 1261 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: that American that just is an asshole kind of thing. Anyways, 1262 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: very similar to what you said, and from what I've read, 1263 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: it's the expectation of providing self respect in an howardly way. 1264 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: So to show that you respect yourself, you have to 1265 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: respect everything around you, and they have like this big 1266 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 1: cultural expectation of everyone. Pitches in society is a bigger 1267 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: thing than you are. You are part of it, so 1268 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: you have to contribute meaningfully to it in a respectful manner. 1269 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 3: What's your name again, man, Kevin? Kevin Kevin, Yes, sir, 1270 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 3: I agree with you on this. I agree with you 1271 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 3: on this. I'm so sorry I have to I'm still 1272 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 3: in this parking lot. I really have to go into 1273 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 3: this Panera bread bathroom and take care of business. But 1274 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 3: I it's been nice talking to you, Kevin. I thanks 1275 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 3: for thanks for letting me rant to you, Thanks for 1276 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 3: thanks for being a homie. I hope you enjoyed it. 1277 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 3: I hope this was a good conversation with you. I 1278 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 3: hope I didn't cannibalize it with whatever I was just 1279 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 3: ranting about for the past half hour. 1280 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fine. It's nice to see how you've grown 1281 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: over the years. Thanks now on Reddit and now you 1282 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: have a cross country tour and able to have a 1283 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 1: commony show on Netflix. I'm very happy for you, Derey 1284 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 1: CATHARTI to be able to see you up there on 1285 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: stage and be able to thanks that experience with my girlfriend. 1286 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I appreciate that. 1287 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming to the show, Kevin, Kevin, is there 1288 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 3: anything else you want to say to the people of 1289 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 3: the computer before we go? 1290 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Uh, just be nice to each other and we last thing, 1291 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,799 Speaker 1: Lile forever. 1292 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 2: You're You're, You're, You're a sweet guy, Kevin. I appreciate you, man. 1293 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks low. 1294 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I have returned from the Panera bread where I 1295 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 3: oh fuck. 1296 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I ran? Well did I run? I didn't. 1297 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 3: I didn't need to run, all right. I returned from 1298 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 3: the Panera bread. I got a little I got a 1299 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 3: little drink. Sometimes you need sometimes in life, you need 1300 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 3: to get yourself a nice little drink. This is not 1301 01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 3: a Panera ad, but I got a little Panera fruity thing. 1302 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 3: It's nice and hot day. I don't know why I'm 1303 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 3: recording this out show. I was like, you know what, 1304 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 3: I should record an outro, give some closure to this 1305 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 3: parking lot saga. Now I'm really I'm not even I 1306 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 3: don't even have my microphone. I'm just recording it on 1307 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 3: my phone. That's why it sounds shittier. Okay, all right, 1308 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm glad I gave you guys some closure, right, you 1309 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 3: know what we needed this, We needed this closure. I'm 1310 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 3: glad I did this. This has been the Therapy Gecko podcast. 1311 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 3: Come to a live show Therapy Gecko Tour dot com 1312 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 3: or check the link in the episode description. Go check 1313 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 3: out my Ukraine documentary. I went to Ukraine to film 1314 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 3: a documentary. You can watch it on YouTube dot com, 1315 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,719 Speaker 3: slash lyle forever, or I think ghek. 1316 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 2: I changed the channel name to ghek. You can go 1317 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 2: to gek YouTube dot com, slash gek or YouTube dot 1318 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,799 Speaker 2: com slash lyle forever. If you search Therapy Gecko Ukraine, 1319 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 2: it'll probably come up on YouTube. All right, thanks for 1320 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 2: listening to this episode. I'm not gonna do this again. 1321 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to go home and I'm gonna 1322 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 3: record some episodes, uh, in a place that's real. 1323 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 2: It's not a parking lot, but it was fun. You 1324 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 2: gotta make do with what you got, folks. All right, 1325 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 2: podcast over, Ghek bless thank you all. Goes on the 1326 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: line taking your phone calls every night goes to you're 1327 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 2: just teaching you aloud in the mid of your life. 1328 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 2: An expert