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Speaker 1: Welcome in the Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Bucks out

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Speaker 1: the rest of the week. You'll have me solo as

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Speaker 1: we roll through all of the major breaking news stories

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Speaker 1: and right off the top. I think Buck would have

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Speaker 1: been just as sad about this news as I am

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Speaker 1: for any of us, particularly that grew up in the

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Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties. Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,

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Speaker 1: THEO dying earlier this week, but just in the last

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so, TMZ reports that Hulk Hogan, seventy

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Speaker 1: one year old wrestling superstar who was at the RNC

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Speaker 1: last year about this time endorsing President Trump, has died again,

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Speaker 1: age of seventy one. If you are of the age

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Speaker 1: as I know many of you are, who grew up

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties watching wrestling, or if you had

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Speaker 1: kids that loved wrestling, maybe you did, maybe you were

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Speaker 1: a big Hulk maniac back in the nineteen eighties, in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. I don't think there are very many

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Speaker 1: people that were more famous in America in the eighties

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Speaker 1: and the nineties than Hulk Cogan, seventy one years old.

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Speaker 1: I want to play a couple of cuts of hul

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Speaker 1: Cogan again. The news just coming down. Hul Cogan dies

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Speaker 1: at seventy one years old. Here he was last year.

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Speaker 1: We played some of these cuts for you. Very funny

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Speaker 1: for those of you who remember the speech. Cut twenty

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Speaker 1: six Hulk Cogan at the RNC in Milwaukee last year

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Speaker 1: about this time.

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Speaker 2: What Chiggarna do when Donald Tuff and all the top

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Speaker 2: of maniacs run wild on you? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Also cut twenty seven. Here, Remember he ripped his shirt

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Speaker 1: off in vintage Hulk Cogan fashion. He seemed very good

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Speaker 1: last year. Reports are early again that he had a

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Speaker 1: heart attack at seventy one years old. A lot of

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Speaker 1: those wrestlers, what they put their bodies through, have not

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Speaker 1: had very long lives, as many of you know. Here

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Speaker 1: is cut twenty seven Hulk Cogan ripping his shirt off

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Speaker 1: on the RNC stage. This is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 2: What happened last week when they took a shot and

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Speaker 2: my hero and they tried to kill the next president

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Speaker 2: of the United States. Enough blaw was enough, said, look

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Speaker 2: chupa media run wild, brother, Let chop.

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Speaker 1: O media rule again.

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Speaker 2: Let topa media night amaca right again.

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Speaker 1: And that was an incredible turn on the stage. Now

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Speaker 1: I know about that. My boys are big wrestling fans,

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Speaker 1: and I know probably a lot of you out there

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Speaker 1: recently most recent WrestleMania and on several different of their events.

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Speaker 1: So look, if you want to talk back, I imagine

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Speaker 1: that there are a lot of you out there hearing

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Speaker 1: this news that want to react. If you've got a

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Speaker 1: favorite moment from the Hulksters era, you can talk back.

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Speaker 1: We'll play some of those. I would imagine that this

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Speaker 1: is something that is hitting a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there who grew up, like I said, in the eighties

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Speaker 1: any sports entertainer media personality. Frankly, however, you want to

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Speaker 1: classify him as almost anyone out there, and obviously a

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Speaker 1: huge Donald Trump supporter and an iconic American original, I

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Speaker 1: mean truly one of the most only in America, as

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, nineteen seventies, nineteen nineties, those are three different

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Speaker 1: icons that may well have characterized some of your youth, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to share all that with you. Off

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Speaker 1: We've had him on the show, Alexi Lawless, one of

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Speaker 1: is just it's a big mess, and the way it's

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Speaker 1: being covered, it's hard to even understand. Can you give

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Speaker 1: So I took that to heart and I got out.

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Speaker 1: foundational knowledge is very important because it will allow you

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Speaker 1: let's go back in time. Let's go back in time

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Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen, to the election night. Hillary Clinton is

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Speaker 1: an overwhelming favorite to win the election. According to all

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Speaker 1: All of their predictions, all of their expertise, all of

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Speaker 1: In other words, Trump had to have cheated. What are

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Speaker 1: the Way About brennan clapper and all of these. Intelligence

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Speaker 1: guys i'm telling you what their defense is going to,

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Speaker 1: be is we had all, this information we had all these.

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Speaker 1: Different reports we're just trying to figure out what we

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Speaker 1: think is the most likely and so they're, gonna, say

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Speaker 1: hey we all we did was try together as much

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Speaker 1: intel as we could analyze it to the best of.

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Speaker 1: Our ability we don't have perfect vision on the Decisions

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Speaker 1: that russia is trying. To make we're trying to put

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Speaker 1: that puzzle together without all of those, pieces there and

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Speaker 1: so proving intent is always one of the most challenging

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Speaker 1: aspects of any. Criminal CHARGE so i Think what hillary

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Speaker 1: knew and when she knew it is again integral to

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Speaker 1: potential charges. As WELL and i just think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very hard to go after anybody for doing

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Speaker 1: anything other than leaking. INTELLIGENCE information i Think the hillary

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Speaker 1: campaign and this IS what i think a lot of you,

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Speaker 1: see now and it's why it's so. Incredibly Dirty if

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Speaker 1: hillary's campaign had wanted to come out and they, had,

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Speaker 1: said hey we Think That donald trump Is a, russian

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Speaker 1: asset because we've been told that there is a tape

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Speaker 1: from a high end from a high end Hotel that

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Speaker 1: russia Has of trump and it's compromising information and they're

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Speaker 1: going to use it. Against him if they had come

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Speaker 1: out and directly, SAID that i think that would be

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Speaker 1: different than what they tried, to do which is get

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Speaker 1: the information and then get the media to write about

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Speaker 1: it so they can cite the media's reporting instead of

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Speaker 1: putting it. Out themselves and this is kind of the

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Speaker 1: dark arts of politics. In, general usually how do you

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Speaker 1: think the media ends up with the nasty divorce details

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Speaker 1: of a somebody running, for office or their battleover child,

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Speaker 1: support payments or what happened with some business that didn't

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Speaker 1: go well and they went bankrupt. With it that's all

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Speaker 1: counter intelligence that is collected by the campaign running against,

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Speaker 1: the candidate but instead of putting it, out themselves which

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Speaker 1: would actually be at least. Somewhat, honest hey you can't

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Speaker 1: trust that guy because he went bankrupt because he didn't pay,

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Speaker 1: child support because all, these things they get the media

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Speaker 1: to write, the story but they are handing the media

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Speaker 1: all the information that allows the media to write. The

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Speaker 1: story it's actually, super dirty, super dirty and basically all

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Speaker 1: they're doing is laundering the story that they want to

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Speaker 1: tell and having the media tell it, for them and

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Speaker 1: then they. Point back once you, see it you can't not.

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Speaker 1: See it they point back and, they, say hey Look

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Speaker 1: To washington post. Reported, this Hey The New york times. Reported,

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Speaker 1: this yeah because you handed them that, intel guys look up.

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Speaker 1: This story do you know do you remember where The

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Speaker 1: Whole stormy daniels. Story started my recollection is that Somebody

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Speaker 1: from hillary's campaign confirm that this. Is, correct guys that

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Speaker 1: Someone from hillary's campaign Met A Wall street journal reporter

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Speaker 1: in a public like a park and just handed them

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Speaker 1: printed off stories that they were just handing to them

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Speaker 1: to try to get them to write About The stormy.

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Speaker 1: Daniels case that's my recollection for how. IT happened, i

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Speaker 1: mean it's actually these campaigns are basically intelligence. Agencies THEMSELVES

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Speaker 1: and i think one of, the lessons, and look this

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Speaker 1: has always been my Thing because i'm a, history nerd

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Speaker 1: one of the lessons that people just don't really spend

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Speaker 1: enough time on is intelligence agencies are. Always political they've always.

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Speaker 1: Been political they just released a bunch OF the. Mlk

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Speaker 1: Files J edgar hoover Wire Tapped Martin luther king's hotel

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Speaker 1: rooms back in the day and recorded him having sex.

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Speaker 1: With hookers they spied ON EVERYBODY. Ourfk jfk when people

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Speaker 1: come out now and, THEY'RE like i don't know how

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Speaker 1: you don't TRUST, The fbi, i'm like have you ever

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Speaker 1: read history OUR. Own fbi look At What jaeggar. Hoover

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Speaker 1: did he had compromising information on every famous person in

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Speaker 1: political office for. Forty years and you think that's just.

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Speaker 1: Now stopped you think that somebody waved a magic wand

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Speaker 1: and now our intelligence agencies are. NOT political i just don't. Buy.

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Speaker 1: It now there are better ways they can. BE political

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Speaker 1: i THINK the Fbi with trump in charge is way

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Speaker 1: more HONEST than i THINK the fbi Was with biden.

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Speaker 1: In charge but there are just degrees of how much you.

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Speaker 1: CAN trust i, MEAN again i think in, two years

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Speaker 1: in twenty, twenty seven ALL the mlk tapes are gonna.

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Speaker 1: Come out go Read The Taylor Branch Civil. RIGHTS trilogy

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Speaker 1: mlk banged every prostitute on the planet just about During

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Speaker 1: The civil. Rights movement when he was shot on the

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Speaker 1: balcony Of The Remain, lorraine motel there was a chick

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Speaker 1: he had just, slept with not, his wife in the.

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Speaker 1: Hotel room i'm not saying that to SUGGEST that mlk

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Speaker 1: wasn't an incredibly important and transcendently brilliant. Historical figure i'm

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Speaker 1: just saying they had compromising information. ON everybody jfk used

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Speaker 1: to have girls over to swim In The white house.

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Speaker 1: Pool naked the Minute That jacqueline, kennedy Left The secret

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Speaker 1: service would run in teenage girls to swim naked with

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Speaker 1: them In The. White house you don't think maybe that

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Speaker 1: was a little bit compromising Information That Jay egar hoover

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Speaker 1: didn't know. ALL about, i, mean again these guys this

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Speaker 1: idea that the intelligence agencies are just out there trying

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Speaker 1: to do their best and they aren't political. At, all

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Speaker 1: man these. Are, killers literally there can be a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad that comes out, of THEM and i think

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Speaker 1: two years when THE full mlk files, come out people

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Speaker 1: this IS what i was. Talking about this From The Wall,

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Speaker 1: street journal by, the way about how dirty these relationships

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Speaker 1: are between media and. The Campaigns The Wall street journal

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Speaker 1: reported well after, this occurred how exactly they got The

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Speaker 1: information and this is. Pretty wild it Says The Wall

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Speaker 1: street journal reporter met in person beneath the brass Clock

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Speaker 1: In Grand central terminal four days before, the election and

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Speaker 1: someone with a brown folder with a ribbon tie handed

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Speaker 1: them the information about the money Payments that trump had.

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Speaker 1: ALLEGEDLY made, i mean, come on you want to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Like that seems like something that would happen in. A

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Speaker 1: movie they're Meeting At Grand central terminal four days before

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Speaker 1: and a. Ribbon report give me. A break