1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: My name is Blue. Alongside him is the world famous 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers in Law and Mr Big Joe Grande and 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: you are now doing to the greatest cannabis show in 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: the universe, in the world, I say the galaxy. This 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: time we're getting bigger. I think you're all correct. Hey, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: we have an amazing show for you guys today. And Joe, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: why don't you let him know what's going down? Well, 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you everyone for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: one oh one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Make sure you 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: check out our Instagram pages for the daily news, learned 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: the script, learn the Slam poem, and all that and 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: more about our personal lives at Cannabis Talk one oh one, 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: at Pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at Underscore Law and at 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: wash Law. His little brother Mark Washerman at wash Law 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: is big brother Craig Washman at one Christopher Right is 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: blue and I am at Joe brand A fifty two. 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: And today we have a very special guest with us, 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: you guys. His name is Legendary, hence Frank the Legend Shamrock, Madgen, 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the CEO, keynote speaker. He does TV phil producer. He's 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: a martial arts master, yes he is, but most of 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: us remember him as one bad motherfucker. I mean, this 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: dude would just ground and pound you. Frank Shamrock was 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the first to hold the UFC Middleweight championship and retired 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: a four time defending undefeated champion. Frank Shamrock was the 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: number one ranked pound for pound UFC fighter in the 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: world during his reign as the UFC Middleweight Champion. Frank Shamrock, 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: it is always great to have you and talk with 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: you again. Brother. How are you. I'm doing great. It's 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: it's good to have you on it. Before we chop 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: it up with you and talk about cannabis and this 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: article I just read with you talking about how you 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: use cannabis throughout your whole career. I want to throw 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: a question around the room. Is all of us are 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: in different places. Frank, You're in the Bay Area, I'm 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: assuming correct. Well, thanks for calling and check it in 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: and hanging out, and I appreciate that, you asshole. Um, 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: but we're all in our separate homes in southern California 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: as well. But what do we all miss about COVID nineteen? 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's getting deep. Now. We've been months 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: inside the house, months doing our show remotely, and let's 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: start with you. Mark, At what point, you know, do 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: you want to just say screw it and let me 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: just live my life? How are you feeling? What do 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: you miss the most? Well, you know what, I'm I'm 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: almost almost at that point, but you know, I'm still 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: listening to the health and safety, the health experts and 52 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the science scientists and everything. But that question, what do 53 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: I miss most? You know, there's there's so much. There 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: is so much, but to pick one thing. I really 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: thought about it. And every Saturday prior to this, every 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Saturday night, without fail, me and my wife go to 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: dinner at a place called the Blue Water Grill, get 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: away from the kids, just us, and we've I don't 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: even know how long we've done that. It's been so 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: long we'd every Saturday night, and uh that that's something 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: that I really really miss that. I'm looking forward to. Uh, 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: you know your wife doesn't listen to the podcast, right, 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: so you don't need to score brownie points work. Oh no, actually, 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: actually she will listen to this one because this morning 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: we got into a fight. So make sure this is it. Hey, 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: life is mine? Oh come on, we're we're in quarantine 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: with our spouses for how long? I mean, somebody out 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: there staying they haven't gotten a fight with their with 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: their spouse BSh Uh yeah, what about you, Blue? What 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: do you miss the most? You know what I missed 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: being naked in public? We don't know nobody else does now, 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you know what? Honestly, man, I I enjoy you know, 73 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: going out, you know, and and it's been it's been 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: ridiculous that we haven't been able to, you know, go 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: to certain places. Um. And it's just just the simple things, man, 76 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: going out to dinner, hitting a movie, just doing the basics. 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I I really, I really found out how much I 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed that kind of stuff now that this has happened. 79 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: So it's the small things for me, man. I hear that, Craig, 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: before we find out what you missed the most. We 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: do need an update on the laps. As I keep 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: reading on your I G. People keep cominging how many 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: laps is he swimming? Now? As we've been following you 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: on this quarantine, as you started swimming your laps, Frank 85 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Shamrock just let you know. You know our friend and 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: brother here, Craig Washerman. He's the oldest of the group. 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: He's at, you know, fifty eight years old, and he 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: started swimming laps at a swimming pool. He started at 89 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: three laps he was able to do. So. Now, Craig, 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: where are you at with your laps? Before we hear 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: what you missed most about COVID nineteen? Yeah, I mean 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: the COVID thing has been a mixed a mixed bag 93 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: blessing in disguise type thing because I haven't had this 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: pool for literally twenty five years, and I go in 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: it and I get out of it. I don't swim 96 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: in it. And since his COVID thing started, I've been 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I started doing the laps and working my way up 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: or walking two miles a day. Uh. So, I mean 99 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: it's it's been a blessing on that end of it, 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: as far as getting back into getting into shape and 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: uh getting my cardio up and and even though my 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: old joints are all fucked up, that's swimming is the 103 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: best what I missed most. I gotta it's like blue Man, 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's the little things. It's I know what 105 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: it really is. It's tough. Is the fucking hugs you 106 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: can't hug, you know, it's it's it's brutal and and 107 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: it's it's just weird when you see somebody. We went 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: on a motorcycle ride this weekend. We actually was really cool. 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: One of our brothers friends in witty ER's daughter just 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: got back from Chalk from brain surgery and she was 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: recovering and they put together a caravan. So there's all 112 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: these cars going by with balloons and we we were 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: on our we had about twenty motorcycles that went by her. 114 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Um and you just you can't stop and hug anybody 115 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: or say anything, or you know, you can't get too close. 116 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: You got to wear the mask. And I don't know that. 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge one. Is just not being 118 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: able to walk up and go, hey, give me that hug. 119 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: That is a tough one. What about you, Frank, What 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: do you miss? The moss Covid nineteens taken over. I 121 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: missed just hanging out, hanging out in the backyard, hanging 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: out with friends, barbecue and just chilling. And I finally 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: finished up the spiding career. I finally retired. I got 124 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: all this time in the world, and now I got 125 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do, I got not to do. I'm just 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: sitting with myself going, damn, it just did not work 127 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: out like I thought it was gonna work out at 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: the time, and nowhere to go, Hey, what about you, Joe? 129 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I actually missed the most, you know, with me having 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: a five year old little boy and a seven year 131 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: old girl, we're always doing something on the weekend sports 132 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: wise with them, and both of their baseball has gotten stopped, 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: the basketball stop, so it just sucked not being able 134 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: to go to these games. And these games are you know, 135 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: they do more than just me being able to watch 136 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: my kids play. I get to see their my kids friends, 137 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: and we're friends with the kids parents, so it's like 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: all in one. I get to hang out with these 139 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: guys that I go golfing with now and bs with 140 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: around the neighborhood. So it's that camaraderie of doing things 141 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: with my kids that I found that I missed the 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: most because you know, I can hang out with the 143 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: guys and still hang out with the kids and watch 144 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: them have a great time and watch them play sports. 145 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: They're just gonna start doing some more jiu jitsu. We 146 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: just got an email in the day saying the jiu 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: jitsu class by the house opened up, so we're like, yes, 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: we can get them out of the house and go 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: do that. So God William, I'll be able to go 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: check that out. But they're only doing private classes, so 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how that works out. But uh, it's always good. 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and talk more with Frank Shamrock, 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: the Legend, So let's break real quick, and I'm gonna 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: get on his ask because I didn't know he lived 155 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: in l A. That's bullshit. It's Frank Shamone. Welcome back 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one on one. On the show today, 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: we got a special guest with us, Frank the Legend Shamrock. 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: He was the first to hold the UFC Middleweight Championship 159 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: and retire a four time defending undefeated champion. Now, Shamrock 160 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: was number one ranked pound for pound UFC fighter in 161 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: the world during his reign as the UFC middleweight champion 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: Frank just recently said in an article from the Growth 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: Up magazine or online maggot, it was that I read 164 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: it is I just found cannabis was a wonderful pain reliever, 165 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: and he used it his entire sports career. All of 166 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: the world championship titles, everything that he achieved, he used 167 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: cannabis on a daily basis. And it's crazy, Frank, to 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: you to say this and barely come out now with 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: it recently, because I'm thinking what a burden that must 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: have been for you to not be able to preach 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: this gospel at the time when you're looking at this 172 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: as medicine and people would arrest you for it at 173 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: the time if you would have been saying it. Yeah, totally, 174 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a total bummer. And 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: then I had to you know, back then, the only 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: test was like cocaine and cannabis, and you had to 177 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: make sure you weren't on either of those. So, you know, 178 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: the last two weeks would be horrid before a championship 179 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: fight because I couldn't consume my medicine. But I took 180 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it every day morning, noon, and night. It was it 181 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: was the only thing I took cannabis and ice, uh, 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: throughout my entire career. And you know everyone says it's 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, make you lazy, it'll uh, you know, drag 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: you down. For me, it was a performance enhancer and 185 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it was a way to completely relax and just you know, 186 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: get rid of the pain. Riding in a cage is 187 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: very painful, very painful. Oh yeah. I mean whenever I 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: watch it, every time there's a strike thrown or a punch, 189 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, how that's got to hurt the calf. Calf kicks, 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: the calf kicks, Like, that's got to hurt. Why come 191 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: out of the closet now, why come out of the 192 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: green closet? Now? What's the feeling from you? Well, I 193 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: really started talking about it when it was legalized in California, 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: and it was really you know, it was a whole 195 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: team decision because at the time I was a broadcaster 196 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: for Showtime and I worked for CBS as a presenter, um, 197 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, a professional spokesman. So my job is to 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: bring products to market, you know, help change ideas, and 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: so it was a very big decision to make. But 200 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: we were only able to do it really because it 201 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: was then legal and was when we felt like it 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: was the right time. It was something I wanted to 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: talk about at all times. But also I was a 204 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: martial arts instructor for twenty years, and you know, martial 205 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: arts is a very family oriented community where if something 206 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: is illegal, you don't do it, and so I was 207 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: definitely torn between two worlds. But you know, by far, 208 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: it's a better medicine than all the medicines they give 209 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: you as a sports athlete. And then if you look 210 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: at the science now, it's just ridiculous. You know, it's 211 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: proven neuroprotective. Every football player should be taking this, Every 212 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: contact sport athlete should be taking this because it's a 213 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: better medicine than what's out there and currently available and 214 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: it's all natural. Frank, what were you using? Frank? Being 215 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: in the in the in the ring, who who do 216 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: you feel was your your your hardest competitor that you've 217 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: ever had to to to fight in the ring? Uh? 218 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: It changed depending on the you know, the moment, but 219 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: the biggest and the toughest was when I fought a 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: Warties because he was just the next level Yeah, the 221 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: next level guy. I mean he's like six two. You know, 222 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: it's like to forty. I'm five ten, you know, hundred 223 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: ninety pounds. So he was just the next level of 224 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: human being. And when you're a professional athlete, you know, 225 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the size of volume, the mass, you know, all that 226 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: stuff matters a lot. And he, you know, he put 227 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: a beating on me. I ended up winning, but he 228 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: was the toughest physical confrontation I ever had. You seems 229 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: like you can take many punches. I was, you know, 230 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: I was doing research on you last night, Frank, and 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: I was reading stuff, and then I went to the 232 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: YouTube and I swear to god, I don't know how 233 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: many different times, but the taunting guys punching you in 234 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: the face and you laughing at him, just laughing at him. 235 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: I was just like, what now, Now, I do have 236 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: a question about the cannabis use. When you were using it, 237 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: what were you using a combination of CBD, TH HC, 238 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: How were you consuming it? What was the best way 239 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: for you? Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, 240 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: for sure. Well, I really liked edibles as sort of 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: a nighttime experience or a Sunday experience, because the train 242 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: six days a week, you know, it's Monday through Saturday. 243 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: For a night for sixteen years, and so Sunday was 244 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of my day off. So Sunday was edible day, 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: relaxed day, travel days. If I had to travel flight 246 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: to Japan, I would use edibles. But all else it 247 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,479 Speaker 1: was just pure smoking because it's the fastest, most convenient, 248 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: most functional way to consume and it it uh delivers 249 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the medicine the quickest. And and what's funny is I 250 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: was known for my cardiovascular endurance and I could outlast 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: anybody else and the whole time I was smoking. Um, 252 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: so it was just for me. I would the O 253 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: G S, the Purple Lease, those things get rid of 254 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: my pain, you know, and I had had, Yeah, I 255 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: had really bad back pain for years and years. It's 256 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: so unfortunate that it's falling on deaf ears at the 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: federal level. It's just so falling on deaf ears. All 258 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: the great things that this plant can do. One thing 259 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, is you retired in two correct? Yes? 260 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: And what you were thirty eight thirty eight? I mean, 261 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: how do you believe that the cannabis use all those 262 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: years allowed you to extend your your run at this sport? 263 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know as the years went in, I 264 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: mean I think I've reading a quote from me today. 265 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: At some point in time, you're just you know, physically, 266 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: your mind's there. I'm a champion, but it just isn't 267 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: gonna work. Do you think the cannabis helped you go 268 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: that long? Absolutely? Absolutely, because besides the pain, a great 269 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: pain management tool that wasn't addictive, it was a great 270 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: psychological relaxing. You know, it's a great way. Absolutely. We 271 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: are here with Frank the Legend Shamrocks. He is a 272 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: retired four time defending undefeated UFC middleweight champion. Frank, sorry 273 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: to cut you off, big brother, but I wanted to 274 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: ask you about the Barony fight because that was one 275 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: of the fights that that that I was watching, and 276 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: that guy wanted wanted you. I mean there was and 277 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: I think you wanted him to and the first round 278 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: you pretty much almost had him. Can you talk about 279 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: that first round of that fight? Yeah? Well, the funny 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: part is the lead up to that fight was two 281 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: weeks before that fight, I blew my knee out, my 282 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: left knee all the tendons m C L A c 283 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: L P c L and I was in an electric wheelchair, 284 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: and I knew I had to fight because This was 285 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a big moment for Showtime. It was a big moment 286 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: for my brand. I had been disqualified in my previous fight, 287 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: and so it was like a big brand moment where 288 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I knew I had to show up, and so I 289 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: showed up, you know, hurt. But the way to be 290 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: Phil was psychologically. I got in his head and I 291 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: picked on him, and I made fun of him, and 292 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, basically teased him. I know, I teased him 293 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: into being, yeah, and being and being angry and sort 294 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: of losing his focus. And then, you know, the thing 295 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: with Phil was when he lost his focus and he 296 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: got angry, he got tight and you could see the 297 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: punches coming. So I knew I could outstrike him if 298 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I kept him on that psychological edge. And yeah, I 299 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: lit him up. I even called like I did the 300 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: sleeper move, and you know, I thought for certain he 301 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: would fall down at that. But every time he went 302 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to punch, I could see it because he was so 303 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: upset and he was so tense, and right as soon 304 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: as he would find I would just blast him right 305 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: on the chin. And I thought for certain he was 306 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: finished in that first round, but he did come back 307 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: to life and and and fight until the second, but 308 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you finish going back to cannabis. Oh, Mark, uh, Frank, 309 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: if you could turn on your phone too, so we 310 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: could hear you on the zoom and get that as 311 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: a recording as well, So just mute that. But going 312 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: back to cannabis too, and you're fighting. How did you 313 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: learn to balance as far as you said you did 314 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: edibles at night? Like, did you know to do edibles 315 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: at night? What gave you that sense? And who taught 316 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: you how to use the cannabis for the best results? 317 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Just just trial and error. You know, it wasn't something 318 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: we really talked about in the culture, different different countries. Uh, 319 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, you mean Javier Mendez didn't say here, didn't No, No, 320 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: they all thought I was crazy and they didn't understand, 321 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, what I was doing or why I was 322 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: doing it. But I was performing well, so they didn't 323 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: stop me, and no one really said, you know, don't 324 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: do it. But you know everyone else was taking Viking 325 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: in and you know, Perkas said, and they were taking 326 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: all these other pills. When I took those, I felt terrible. 327 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: I didn't sleep good, my body felt heavy. You know, 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm dry when I smell cannabis, you know, I would, 329 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: I would wake up, I feel amazing, and so I 330 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: just threw trial and air. I realized that this was 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: a better medicine. All I need is ice and cannabis 332 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: and my body will do anything. You know, what I 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: think is great and we'll keep it on the subject 334 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Is the fact that I read that you 335 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: don't use cannabis any longer, or at least as of 336 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: the data that article, because you started the meditation, you 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: got therapy for all those for the back injury and 338 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the back problems, and you stopped using annabis because you 339 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: didn't need it for the pain any longer. Does that 340 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: still hold true? Yeah, yeah, I stopped using it. She's 341 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: been almost a year now because about yeah, yeah, Well 342 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: what happened was, you know, since I was sixteen, I 343 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: had back pain because I got a spondee in my 344 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: spines and one of my little vertebrates is broken. And 345 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: I fell off a roof jumping off. It was that 346 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: jumping off or falling off a two. I fell because 347 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I was actually reaching to grab this oak tree branch 348 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: and the wind blew as soon as I grabbed it, 349 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: so it's sort of pulled me. It sort of pulled 350 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: me off the roof and then I fell two stories 351 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: on my back. And you know, one of the rules 352 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: in our house was you don't get on the roof. 353 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: So I didn't tell anybody, but for my for my 354 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: entire sports car, I had this terrible pain in my 355 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: lower back, like sciatica pain. And I would be kicking 356 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: everyone's ass in the gym and all of a sudden, 357 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: my back would go out and I'd fall over and 358 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: I'd have to go to the doctor and get it fixed. Yeah, 359 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: it was really bad, and so I searched for twenty 360 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: plus years to find the doctor to fix and I 361 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: finally found one right here in Beverly Hills, Dennis uh Colonello, 362 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: and he fixed my back. And so one day I 363 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: woke up and I had no back pain. So I 364 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: was like, a wait, about surgery without surgery? Yeah, So 365 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: then I was at the point. But the point I 366 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up was that and it's awesome because 367 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: you're out of the green closet. My brother and I 368 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: advocate this all the time, that you can be successful 369 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: rechanging the definition and the stereotype of the words stoner. 370 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: And the fact is huge, this is that this is 371 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: a huge exclamation point. It's not addictive for you to 372 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: be able to smoke for all those years, thirty years, 373 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: thirty or whatever, twenty five years and no how you 374 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: can stop because you don't need it. You found another 375 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: way to manage your pain and get healthy. I mean, 376 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. It's not addictive and everybody needs to 377 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: know that. Frank, you know, uh, do you still work 378 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: Are you still working out? How are you keeping your 379 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: fitness and um, you know things like that. Yeah, I 380 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: still work out, but now it's all sort of outside natural. 381 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: We hike, we ride bikes, we you know, go rock climbing. 382 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty much a natural experience because I spent you know, 383 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty plus years in the gym at the highest level. 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: So we we use nature. And that's one of the 385 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: good things about the quarantine, if there are some good things. 386 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: I get to spend tremendous amount of time with my 387 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: daughter and every night, you know, we're two hours out 388 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: in nature doing you know, physical activity, spending as you're 389 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: on these walk freak and doing all these things. Now 390 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: that you're retired, do you ever reflect back to your career. 391 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to mention when you and 392 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: I went to Brazil when I carried the belts and 393 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: that which probably your highlight as well as mine. But 394 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you always point well I did do that. For those 395 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: who don't know, you've been every in the interview, you've 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: done everything. Well, yeah, it was just a great time 397 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: and a great experience that we shared together. And I 398 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: always thank you for allowing me to go on that 399 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: trip with you for that fight. But as you reflect 400 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: now that you're retired, do you look back and think 401 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: who was it better to fight for? Data White, Scott 402 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Coker when you retired came back, What do you look 403 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: at and what do you think of when you think 404 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: of those different entities that you fought with. Well, for me, 405 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: it's not even so much the entities. I mean I 406 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: loved fighting for Scott and the UFC, they all were great, 407 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: But for me, it was the performances themselves, because each 408 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: one was like a personal, you know, journey each you know. 409 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Fighting Tito, I mean he was a monster. I mean 410 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: even my own brother was like, don't fight him, he's 411 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna crush you. Well that was my brother. So I 412 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: only fought him once and then my brother can fought 413 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: him three times. Um, and he beat He beat can 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: all three times, but I beat him, so it's just 415 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: And then when I fought fail like I've blown my 416 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: knee out. And so you know, everybody, even my doctors, 417 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: like there's no way you can do this. So for me, 418 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: it was a huge spiritual and personal experience to be 419 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: able to meditate, be able to call myself, to be 420 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: able to go no, I have to do this from 421 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: my career, for my brand, for the sport, and then 422 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: to walk in there when you know, basically it was 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: impossible to win and to find a way to win. 424 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: And so when you come out of moments like that, 425 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: from personal experiences like that, that's what I when I'm 426 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: walking down you know, when I'm hiking, that's what I 427 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: think about, is how on earth, you know, did I 428 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: do that? But everybody has that power to sort of 429 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: reach deep inside to do what they think is impossible, 430 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: to sort of overcome these things. And now, I mean, 431 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's certainly paid off. I'm you know, spending 432 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: my days in leisure, hiking in the forest with my 433 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: little girl, enjoying the good life. We're here with Frank 434 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: the Legend Shamrock, one bad motherfucker like Joe said retired 435 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: four time defending undefeated champion. Man. It's it's a pleasure 436 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: to have you here. And I want to talk a 437 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: little about your childhood because you had a pretty rough 438 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: childhood uh coming up, and that's kind of what led 439 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: you to uh fighting uh in the ring, as I 440 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: understand that you didn't do too much fighting outside of 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: it when you were younger, although you got into a 442 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: lot of maybe in jail. I got I got a 443 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: couple of beefs when I was in jail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 444 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: I had had a tough childhood and I grew up 445 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: in a broken home and an abusive home. Um you know, 446 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: addiction issues, with all kinds of issues. Um. But and 447 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I found a way out when I was eleven years 448 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: old that threw rocks at a train and that got 449 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: me sent to juvenile hall. Throwing rocks at a train 450 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: in California is actually a felony, and so it they 451 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: took me from my home. I ended up doing ten 452 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: days in juvenile hall. And when I was eleven years old, 453 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: I was talking all the bad kids and they were 454 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: telling I was like asking him, hey, how do you 455 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: how do you deal with this? Locking in the closet thing, 456 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: and you guys have to live in the backyard. And 457 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: as I'm saying these things, they're looking at me all horrified. 458 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: And I realized that my my childhood was not that good. 459 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: And so I found that crime was the tool that 460 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: took me out of that home. And I leaned in 461 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: the crime like you wouldn't believe, which worked out great 462 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: until I ended up in prison when I was seventeen. 463 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: And then I ended up doing a good, good stretch 464 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: of time. I did three and a half years from 465 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one, and then you know, I just 466 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: I found a mentor while I was in that group 467 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: home system, Bob Shamrock, and Bob Shamrock, you know, gave 468 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: me great advice. He was my first father figure. He 469 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: told me to invest in my body, my mind and 470 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: my spirit and you know, to keep training basically. And 471 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: when I got out, you know, this sport had just started. 472 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: And you know, my dream was always to be a champion, 473 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: a sports champion. So even though I was afraid to fight, 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: even though you know, made me very nervous to be 475 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: in a situation like that, um, I had the machine 476 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: for it, and I had the faith, and I went 477 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: for it. How did you feel about Yeah, Bob did that. 478 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: He would be so mad at me, but his whole 479 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: thing was and this is one of the things that 480 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: kept me in it is you know, he said, Hey, 481 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: as long as you're doing your stuff, long as you 482 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: take care of your business, I don't care what you do. Yeah. 483 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: I get parents call me up that no I use 484 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: weed or smoke cannabis, and they say, oh, my seventeen 485 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: year old or eight tieen and wants to smoke. And 486 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, tell him exactly what you 487 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: just said is what I tell people. If they're doing 488 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: everything they're supposed to be doing, what's the problem. And 489 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: when people say cannabis makes you lazy, we say, no, 490 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you're a lazy ass who uses cannabis your art. Cannabis 491 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: does not make him lazy. And we have an example 492 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: right here that shows that, I mean, couldn't be. All 493 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: of you guys are examples. You and your brother as well, Craig. 494 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, don't just give Frank the credit for being 495 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: an athlete. For sure, as they're very successful lawyers. He's 496 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: a very successful CEO of his company. All three of 497 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: you guys are examples of Stoner's at the peak of 498 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: their stone age aides and being very successful. Well, guys, 499 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: we're listening to Frank Shamrock, actually the original Rock, the 500 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: legend Shamrock right, weighing in at what is it? Two 501 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: oh five? Standing five ten? I wish I wish six 502 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: pounds and uh, but we never told anybody that. We 503 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: just let him think that was a lot bigger. But 504 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm actlutely about a hundred pounds or so. Well, a 505 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: lot of the guys you bought look looked a lot 506 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: bigger than you, and you just they were. Yeah. But 507 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: when I started, there was no weight classes, Like I 508 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: was the first weight class champion, and that weight class 509 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: was one point nine nine and below, So every single 510 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: human being was bigger than me. I used to eat 511 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: a full meal every night when I went to bed 512 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: because it was the only way to maintain the weight 513 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: and give me crazy dreams like I had the crazy 514 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: a little eat a little crazy dream all night and 515 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: then wake up. Frank, UFC just had a fight with 516 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: no fighters. I've had a few. Now I'm wondering, would 517 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: you partake in something like that or what are your 518 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on it? You know that the UFC is actually 519 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: doing it. How tough would it be mentally for the 520 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: fighter or doesn't even even play a factor. Well, what's 521 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: funny is because I started in Japan and back in 522 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: the nineties, the crowd didn't cheers. It wasn't it wasn't 523 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: socially cool. You didn't cheer, You didn't express yourself, you know, 524 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: verbally in a social setting unless you had an intimate 525 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: connection with someone personally, so they would just politely applause 526 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: and oh h. And so what's amazing about it is 527 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: you actually get to hear your corner and depth. And 528 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the hardest part for me being a rock star is 529 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: to go out have this, you know, fifty thousand people 530 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: screaming and you're trying to hear your corner. So it's 531 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: actually be a huge bonus as a as an athlete 532 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: competing right now to not have it was interesting listening 533 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: to the corner. You could hear everything. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah, 534 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: I would prefer it because that's all I'm trying to 535 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: do is filter out my wife's screams and then here 536 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: the corner man tell me what to do. Frank, you 537 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: mentioned that you you were scared to fight that very 538 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: first time you fought professionally. How was that? How did 539 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: you prefer prepare yourself? And how did you get through 540 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: the fears you might have had going in? I was 541 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: very afraid and I had lots of meditation. Luck, I 542 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: had all that time in prison to sort of make 543 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: up my mind and you know, sort of decide like 544 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: I have to have to go do this. Um And 545 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: for me it was even scarier because I went to 546 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Japan for my first fight, and I went to Japan 547 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: for two months to finish my training. So I went 548 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: from fulsome prison to shin Yokohama, Japan and lived there 549 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: for two months while on parole and finished my training. 550 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: So it was terrifying. It was literally terrifying, I would 551 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: say that in Japan. Yeah, well, back in the day, 552 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: it was the only place you could be employed, and 553 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: so we we were able to prove that it was 554 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: gameful employment only available in this certain area, and I 555 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: had to go or it was a disadvantage to me. 556 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Freak the legend share Rock. What fighters are you enjoyed 557 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: watching now? Do any of them remind you of yourself? Um? Well, 558 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Henry Suta reminds me of me because he looks exactly 559 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: like me. Love my little brother your Everyone says he 560 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: might be my son, he might be my little brother. 561 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: I really like, I liked what the girls are doing, 562 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: you know. I like the old school guys that like 563 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: John Jones, Um. You know, I see I see a 564 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: little bit of me and all of them. Because I 565 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: was the first, you know, complete mixed martial arts guy. 566 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I was the first guy to really, like Bruce Lee saw, 567 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, thought to create a system and then to 568 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: use that system effectively so there's no weaknesses. So when 569 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: I watched them today, I'm like, I remember when we 570 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: figured that one out, and I remember when we tied 571 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: that together, and back in the day, I could see 572 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: the spaces between the styles. And that's how I set 573 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: all those records and beat all those guys, is you know, 574 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: their minds were stuck in one area because I was 575 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: studying so much. Because I was trying to connect all 576 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: the styles, I could see where the things didn't connect 577 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: and where there was weaknesses. It's a trip that you 578 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: say that, because I was mentioning that to the guys 579 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and thinking about your history and following you early on 580 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: in your career how you did bring it all together right, 581 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: So you're kind of the as this Michael Jordan's special 582 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: was out the Last Dance, You're kind of the Michael 583 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's of the UFC and Mixed Martial Arts in my opinion, 584 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: because like you said, you brought it all together. So 585 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: that'll be said if we do because I think I'm 586 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna produce this now that I just think about it, 587 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna do the Frank Shamrock Last Dance. What would 588 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: you call yours instead of the Last Dance? What would 589 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Frank the Legend Shamrocks Special beyond ESPN? What would you 590 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: call it? Um? I would call it, uh, something to 591 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: do with warriors like warriors path or journey or something 592 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: to do with warriors and warriors path and journey. Frank, 593 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: what he put together, I mean, Michael Jordan was great, 594 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I gotta put Frank above that. 595 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: As far as putting together I mean several. I mean 596 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: all these different styles, ground and pound, stand up strike. 597 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean, everything he put together is something that didn't exist. 598 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan may have taken basketball to another level, may 599 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: be able to see things on the court, blah blah blah, 600 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: but he didn't put together a complete system that would 601 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: go on to decimate everybody in his path. So props 602 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: to you. And and you're doing cannabis. So in between 603 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: when you're putting all this together, let's bring it back 604 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: to cannabis, when you're putting on, when you're doing all 605 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: this and thinking how do I put this with that 606 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: and how do I you know, these combinations in these 607 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: different styles you were you were using cannabis, correct, totally, 608 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah. And I know for a fact that 609 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: being in a very relaxed state of mind, you know, 610 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: not being in pain, um, you know, not having certain fears, uh, 611 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, feeling a certain way. I know for a 612 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: fact that those those are some of the things that 613 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: helped me, you know, envision what hadn't been seen yet, 614 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, to help finish the system and create the 615 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: system because everyone else, as you know, stoned out of 616 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: their mind on you know, her caocets and they can't 617 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: feel anything, you know, basically their body is dead. Um 618 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I feel good and my mind is 619 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: still very active, and my mind is still very creative, 620 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: and it was a very creative process to come up 621 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: with this stuff. It's also terrifying when you're the guy 622 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: coming up with the system because there's nobody to ask, 623 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: there's nobody that knows, and I knew that nobody can't. 624 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Then there's no wrong way. But it's usually you know, 625 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: your coach can guide you, and your coach you know, 626 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: hey do this. But I realized my coaches didn't know it, 627 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and so it was up to me to sort of 628 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: come up with the strategies and come up with the systems. 629 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, that's terrifying. It's imagine 630 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: going to war and and as a soldier, you're making 631 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: all the decisions. And that's how it was for me. Sure, Frank, 632 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You know, what do you 633 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: what do you think about the UFC two part questions. 634 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Do you think the the UFC is is leaning towards 635 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: the cannabis used for their for their fighters and to 636 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: is the UFC going right now? And are you happy 637 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: with where they're where they're headed, you know as far 638 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: as from when you were in Yeah, they're definitely moving 639 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: towards you know, a cannabis friendly um environment because you know, 640 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: they see the results. Everybody's using you know, CBD, everybody's 641 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: using oils. People are figuring out that it does protect 642 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: your brain and you can help protect your brain. Um. 643 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: So they're definitely getting more friendly about it. But really 644 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: that's up to the commissions, and that's up to you know, 645 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: the people that sort of oversee that testing side. Um. 646 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: You know, I and I love where the sport is at, 647 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: like my dream. I mean, I was the first spokesman. 648 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: So my job was to get us on cable. My 649 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: job was to get us on network. My job was 650 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: to grow this thing until it was on ESPN. So 651 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: when I see it on ESPN now it's like, you know, 652 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: we made it. You know, this is where we're supposed 653 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: to be because it's it's one of the most exciting 654 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: and interesting sports. And for me, you know, I didn't 655 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: I didn't play on teams. It was me and my 656 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: coaches you know, against the other their side. Um. So 657 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: there's something very special about singular competition and what that 658 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: does for the human spirit and what you see when 659 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: that happens, you know, for the individual and then for 660 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: the crowd as well. And like you said, you took 661 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: it to the next level as they had used to. Guys, 662 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Let's let me ask one more question here, one more 663 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: question from me. Would you it would be kind of funny, though, 664 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: do you think they'd ever ban it because it's it's 665 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: enhancing you as you know, like other steroids things like that. 666 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: It's like they're gonna say, wait, it's not fair because 667 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: you're you're taking cannabis and I'm not well that if 668 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: they were smart, they'd figure that out. But I don't 669 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: think they're ever gonna even get to that mindset. For me, 670 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: it was a total enhancer. Like for me, it was 671 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: a secret weapon because every night I slept good, I 672 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: wasn't in pain, I could train longer, I could, you know, 673 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: think better, I could think more creatively. So yeah, I 674 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: mean there's certainly in our argument that could be said 675 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: for that. Well, guys, you're listening to I Heart Radio 676 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: with Frank Shamrock. When we come back, we're gonna have 677 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: the high five right here on Cannabis Talk one on one. 678 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one 679 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: on one. I'm Mark Wasserman, little brother of the Pop 680 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law, with my big brother Craig, Big Joe, 681 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Grande and Blue and our special guest Frank the Legend Shamrock, 682 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: and right now it's special thanks time to our producer, 683 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: Elvis Social Media, Jennifer and Sophia and David Wasserman at 684 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: I heart for helping us get this podcast up and 685 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: out to the whole world. And a very very special 686 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: shout out to big Boy Boy because that guy deserves it, 687 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: and everyone who supported Cannabis Talk one on one. We 688 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: truly appreciate you. Now back over to the guy you 689 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: called Joe, but I call him the Round Mount the Radio. 690 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: It's time for the high five. Take it away. Well, 691 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: we have Frank the Legend Shamrock on with us. Frank, 692 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to catch up with you. I 693 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: like I said earlier on, I just want to thank 694 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: you again for the memories. I have a picture up 695 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: on my wall literally in my office of me, you, 696 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: Maurice Smith, and Javier Mendez in the back and I'm 697 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: looking at it right now and I literally have that 698 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: picture up in my office and I put it everywhere 699 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: in anywhere I've moved to, so you're always a part 700 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: of my office. Just to let you know you're always 701 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: with me, mother, So thank you very much. And there's 702 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: a picture of me holding the belt behind your your 703 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: head after you won that fight. Can we do a 704 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: High Five Joe, enough about okay, sorry about that, Frank. 705 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: How old are you the first time you smoked? And 706 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: where did you get it from? I think I was 707 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: about nine or ten years old, and it was from 708 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: my neighbor across the way. He had a little brother. Uh, 709 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: there was an older brother, and the older brother smoked 710 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: and I knew the smell from my My mom was 711 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: like a hippie, So I knew the smell and so 712 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: hit me and the younger brother went into his tin 713 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: speed zip open pouch. We found some green and we 714 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: smoked it. I remember the first time. Yeah, it probably 715 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: was ten have as about Ten's what I think you've 716 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: already answered this. But what is your favorite way to 717 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: use cannabis? For me? Smoking? Smoking is the best. That's 718 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: the fastest delivery source. It's the easiest, most functional and 719 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: works the best for me because I got pain and 720 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: I need it gone like immediately. Is a joint, a pipe, 721 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: a bong, which way? Whatever, whatever's closest. Yeah, whatever gets 722 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: near the hand. Question number three of the High Five 723 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: on cannabis talk one on one with Frank's Shamrock. Craziest 724 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: place you've ever used cannabis? Oh wow? Uh? Definitely on 725 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: the airplane. Nice, definitely on the air Yeah, no, no, no, 726 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: pup uh commercial. We flew back from Japan one time 727 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: and the Dutch guys had given me some um, give 728 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: me some weed. But it was pure white. It was 729 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: nothing but like crystal white weed. Like it was the 730 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: strongest thing you've ever experienced in your life. And so 731 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: I went in the bathroom with a can and I 732 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: took one hit, one hit, and I was and I was, 733 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: I was just like like one hit and I was 734 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: back to sleeping again. Yeah, one hit, one hit. Yeah. 735 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: That Japan, right is ten hours. So you gotta settle 736 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: in the cannabis. Talk one O one high five. We're 737 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: here with Frank the Legend Shamrock UFC Middleweight Championship retired 738 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: of four time defending undefeated champion. Here is question number 739 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: four of the high five. What is your go to 740 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: Munchie's after you get high? Oh? I like chips. I 741 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: loved hips in Anything salty to me. It's it's something 742 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: to do with the salt and the crunch and the whole. 743 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I like but anything Cheetos, Frito's heat, 744 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: like any any anything that crunches and munches like that. 745 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: You should be a fact I frank, because you're way 746 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: too freaks rock. If you can smoke we cannabis whatever 747 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: you want to call it. With anyone dead or alive, 748 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: who would it be? Bob Marley Man? Well? Yeah, I 749 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: mean but why why? What is your reason for Bob? 750 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: Of course you could have many, but what is your 751 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: reason for Bob Marley? Well? I think he used the 752 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: medicine in a very spiritual way and it enhanced sort 753 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: of his music and his life. And to him it was, uh, 754 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, his medicine part of his religious culture. And 755 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: to me, that's where this started from. You know, ewns ago. 756 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: You know, some some guys wearing skins were running around 757 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: and they found this medicine and they realized it was 758 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: good for them, and so they started incorporating it into 759 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: their culture, into their lifestyle, into their medicines. Before we 760 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: wrap up to I want to ask you one more question. 761 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: Is there anybody out there that you would not regret 762 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: but say, you know what, I want to get your 763 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: ass in the ring one more time. I know I retired, 764 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: I know you're retired, but let's just you know, ground 765 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: and pound for a minute. I still want to give 766 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: you a couple of punches. The only guy that I 767 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: didn't get to with with soccer Raba in Japan, and 768 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: that just you know, too many players were in the way. 769 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: And then and then my brother Ken like him and 770 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: I had be for years. We were going to work 771 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: it out, and then that fell apart as well. So 772 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: as I look back, you know, we grew up fighting. 773 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: We grew up in a culture where if you had 774 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: a beef, you dealt with it and then you hugged 775 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: it out. And so you know that the moment and 776 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: your brother said it best, and that special. I love 777 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: the special by the way on Spike TV with you 778 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: and your brother in the whole meeting up and stuff 779 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: like families fight for free all time every day, keep 780 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: each other. Mark and Craig. You can hear them fighting 781 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: outside their office on a daily basis to let him 782 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: get some money for it. For God's sakes, we're gonna 783 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: charge you next time, Joe, what are you watching and 784 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: eating popcorn? And one more thing that that we do 785 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: have to do, Joe, and you mentioned it at the 786 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: beginning of the show. Our script and something that we 787 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: we like to leave with our guests and and do 788 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: you even know it? You know, Frank, do you know 789 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: what me and my brother teach people across the country 790 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: about dealing with law enforcement? To shut the funk up? Right? Ultimately, 791 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: that's right the commately, that's the takeaway. But our script 792 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: is a simple twenty five words, and we like to 793 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: make sure everybody knows it. So me and my big 794 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: brother will do the daily script review. Ready, big brother, 795 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: do it all right? What do you say when the 796 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: cops first pull you over? Why did you pull me over? Sir? 797 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: And when they start asking questions, not discussing my day 798 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: or evening, and and they keep asking more questions my 799 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: being detained or am I free to go? And if detained, 800 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: what do you say? I invoked the fifth And then 801 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: when they get in your face and intimidate you, try 802 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: to scare you and lie to you and say whatever 803 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: they want and ask you more questions, what do you do? 804 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: I shut the funk up, shut the funk up, and 805 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: ultimately shut the funk up and cops asked questions. So, Frank, 806 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: we teach that just across the country. What do you 807 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: think about that? I love it because I've always dreaded 808 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: that day when they would pull me over and be like, 809 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: why does your car smell like a bunch of cannabis? 810 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: Disgusting my day? And Frank, you know what, We've actually 811 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: created this poem that if Joe, if Frank the Legend 812 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: wants to hear it, I might have to hold on, 813 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: hold on just wants the Hey guys leave a comment below, 814 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, hey, I don't want Frank the 815 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: Legend punched me in the face, but I'll be draft 816 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: Frank well, as much as I hate doing it. Here 817 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: you go. Am I being detained? Or am I free 818 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: to go? This is what to say, my lawyer tells me. 819 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: So the cops are out there doing a job. Sometimes 820 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: they must contain a mob, a thankless job that saves 821 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: many lives. At their home are worried children, husbands and wives. 822 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: But does that give them the right to stomp on 823 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: my rights? So we are here for you, the cannabis community, 824 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: to fight to let you know it's okay to just 825 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: shut the funk up. When cops asked questions, you start 826 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: with I'm not discussing my day, and with I invoked 827 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: the Fifth These ain't suggestions, These are words to live by, 828 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: to memorize. See it's not about the size of that 829 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: cops gun because they want you to run so they 830 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: can pull that macho gun and shoot you for fleeing 831 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: the scene. Some cops are just playing mean. We must 832 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: shut it off, shut it down. Those feelings of anger 833 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: that instantly come around when that cop has to show 834 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: his power and his might without cause, without reason, and 835 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: we know they're not right. We must remain calm, keep 836 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: the devil sleeping on the left shoulder. We must be cold, 837 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: even colder. Ice must flow through your veins to shut 838 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: that heat, the blood that rusts your brain straight from 839 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: your feet. When that cop disrespected you because you wouldn't 840 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: tell him what that smell was, and he acchooses you 841 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: of a pot d ui because he absolutely knows that's 842 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: your buzz. But see, they can't tell, and they don't 843 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: know only if you tell them. So. Oh, officer, I 844 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: spoke to join a few hours ago. Officer, here's my 845 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,959 Speaker 1: medical rest. Officer, I'm a marijuana patient. We live in America. 846 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: Prohibition still exists. That cops gonna do whatever he's gonna do, 847 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: arrest you. Give us a chance to represent you with 848 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: the defense that's blazing. Let us show you in court. 849 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: We're amazing, but we can only do that if you 850 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: listen to our tips. Now, let me see you move 851 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: your lips. You know the drill. When the cops ask questions, 852 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: we say, I'm not discussing my day. Am I being detained? 853 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: Or am I free to go? I invoked the fifth 854 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: and then you shut up. I gotta say that what 855 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. We have given you the script. 856 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: We are telling you what to say, we are telling 857 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: you what to do. We've put your hands up in 858 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: protection mode. But should you take a shot to the jaw, 859 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: we will be fighting for the cannabis community because we 860 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: are the pop Brothers. So before I forget, this is 861 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: big brother, and I'm gonna say, I'm gonna get the 862 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: last question in um, but I can't remember it now 863 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: because that was too fucking long. Actually, what we have 864 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: we have a twist to the script during the coronavirus. 865 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: And imagine in your lifetime that you would ever be 866 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: able when you get pulled over to tell the officer 867 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: when he asked you. This is the only time in 868 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: the history of the script that you go off script 869 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: when you say, I'm not discussing my day, and that 870 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: all you say. You don't say nothing else, You don't 871 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: answer any questions. But if they ask you, oh, just shutdown. 872 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: Order what do you cut? What are you out for? 873 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: You can actually say I'm gonna go buy Mike cannabis. 874 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: It's essential. Imagine telling the cop I'm going to buy weed. 875 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: I think it's great. Joe, what do you think you 876 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: guys talk too much? I think it's talk. I wanted 877 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: Frank your thoughts. Mark Washington's poem that he gives his 878 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: brother credit for because he says pop brothers a law. 879 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: But that's all Mark Washingman. I liked it. It was good. 880 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we can turn into a rapp or something. Well, Frank, 881 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: we want to thank you for joining us on Cannabis 882 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. It's been amazing having you on 883 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: the show. If you're listening out there, make sure you 884 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: share this because it's important to hear from leaders like 885 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: this man right here. He's a legend in the game. Uh, 886 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: it's Cannabis Talk one on one. Remember this if no 887 00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: one else left you. We do thank you for listening 888 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I Heart 889 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.