WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: "2 B R 0 2 B" by Kurt Vonnegut

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media book Club book Club. What if I

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<v Speaker 1>only say twice, well, it's still kind of a chant.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, I don't. That's not what I know. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm Margaret Kiljoy because I'm the host

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, which is the Cool Zone Media book Club,

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<v Speaker 1>the only book club that you don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>the reading for because I do it for you. We

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have three modes here on book Club. We

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<v Speaker 1>have modern stories, we have fairy tales, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>classic science fiction. And that third mode is new, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the kick that I'm on right now, and this

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<v Speaker 1>story is in that mode because I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff that like. Okay, So the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason I really like history because of how it shapes

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<v Speaker 1>our present, I feel like you can do the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing culturally and see like where we're at

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of different ideas based on the things

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<v Speaker 1>that came before. And this week's story is by a

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<v Speaker 1>classic one of my favorite weird satirical authors, Kurt Vonnegut.

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<v Speaker 1>And for folks who don't know, Kurt Vonnegut, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is most famous as an anarchist who fought the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not actually what he's famous for. But it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an anarchist who fought the Nazis. He was captured

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<v Speaker 1>by the Germans kind of clos ish to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the war. I don't remember exactly what year, but he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then survived two different Allied bombings while he

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<v Speaker 1>was in captivity of the Germans. Because war as hell,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is not surprising that he ended up an

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<v Speaker 1>anarchist and a pacifist and a world citizen as he

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<v Speaker 1>put it. But he did survive those things, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went on to write very satirical stuff that seems so

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<v Speaker 1>like lighthearted while playing with heavy issues, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>realize what this man went through and you're like, oh, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he writes lighthearted, satirical stuff about very heavy issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And he survived the bombing of Dresden. You think I

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<v Speaker 1>would put this in my script, but I didn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>he survived this bombing of this sermon city where he

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<v Speaker 1>was captive by hiding in a slaughterhouse and talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how is like cool down there amongst all the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>or the cadavers. I think is the way he put it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason that that sticks out to me is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell a different story really quick, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I've already told the story in one of my podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure, so I'm gonna tell it again

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the second time I know about an

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<v Speaker 1>anarchist surviving by hiding among bodies. And the other one

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<v Speaker 1>is that one day I met a man who was

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<v Speaker 1>selling his father's book, and his father had been a

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<v Speaker 1>Polish officer when the Russians came and invaded Poland and

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<v Speaker 1>then killed almost all the officers in the military rather

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<v Speaker 1>than letting them, oh, I don't know, defend the country

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<v Speaker 1>against Nazi's killed them all in the massacre of the

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<v Speaker 1>Caton Forest. And this man's father was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only survivors of that because he had been taken to

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<v Speaker 1>Russia instead and thrown into a prison camp in Siberia.

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<v Speaker 1>And this man, when he first met me, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like me because I was like a weird pump and

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<v Speaker 1>he thought I was going to be a Bolshevik. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you and your friends you're not Bolsheviks, are you,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, no, no, we're anarchists, he said, anarchists,

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<v Speaker 1>And he got really excited and he opened up his

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<v Speaker 1>dad's book that's called The Shadow Kateen Forest, if anyone's curious,

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<v Speaker 1>and he flipped through and he found this chapter where

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<v Speaker 1>his father's life had been saved by a Christian anarchist

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<v Speaker 1>in the gulags who was like a follower of Kurpatkin

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<v Speaker 1>and Tolstoy. And while he was in this gulag, it

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<v Speaker 1>was so cold outside that people were freezing to death.

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<v Speaker 1>And the person who ran the morgue was this anarchist

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<v Speaker 1>in the camp, and so he would let people come

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<v Speaker 1>and hide among the frozen bodies to warm themselves up

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<v Speaker 1>because it was warmer than the outside. Which, now that

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<v Speaker 1>I say it, there's a very dark story, but it

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<v Speaker 1>meant that I had an interesting connection with a man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost one hundred years later and seventy years

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<v Speaker 1>later or a while later, and I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 1>so just when I was like reading about Vonnegut hiding

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<v Speaker 1>among bodies to survive the horrors of war, I was

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<v Speaker 1>reminded of this other story. But that's not what this

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<v Speaker 1>story is about, not at all. Instead, content warning for

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode. This story discusses suicide, and I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>a critique of eugenics, but is also sort of describing

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<v Speaker 1>a eugenicist society, and so that's your content warning. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a headspace you want to be in, then

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to this one. This story is called two

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<v Speaker 1>be Are Not to Be? The letters spelled out it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be really clever. It doesn't work as well in audio, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the big reveal, is the way it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a bunch of letters and numbers. It

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<v Speaker 1>was first published in Worlds of If in January nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, and the Project Gutenber Additions, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>I got this one from, says extensive research did not

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<v Speaker 1>uncover any evidence that the copyright on this publication was renewed.

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<v Speaker 1>So like a lot of stuff from the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>and sixties is under copyright, but a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>isn't because of the weird ways the copyright law works.

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<v Speaker 1>The little tagline along with the story said, got a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>just pick up the phone. It solved them all and

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<v Speaker 1>all the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Two b Are Not to Be?

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<v Speaker 1>By Kurt Vonnegut. Everything was perfectly swell. There were no prisons,

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<v Speaker 1>no slums, no insane asylums, no cripples, no poverty, no wars,

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<v Speaker 1>All diseases were conquered, so was old age. Death, barring accidents,

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<v Speaker 1>was an adventure for volunteers. The population of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States was stabilized at forty million souls. One bright morning

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<v Speaker 1>in the Chicago lying in hospital, a man named Edward K. Welling,

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<v Speaker 1>Junior waited for his wife to give He was the

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<v Speaker 1>only man waiting. Not many people were born a day anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Welling was fifty six, a mere stripe ling in a

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<v Speaker 1>population whose average age was one hundred twenty nine. X

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<v Speaker 1>rays had revealed that his wife was going to have triplets.

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<v Speaker 1>The children would be his first. Young Welling was hunched

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<v Speaker 1>in his chair, his head in his hand. He was

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<v Speaker 1>so rumpled, so still, and colorless, as to be virtually invisible.

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<v Speaker 1>His camouflage was perfect, since the waiting room had a

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<v Speaker 1>disorderly and demoralized air too, chairs and ashtrays had been

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<v Speaker 1>moved away from the walls. The floor was paved with

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<v Speaker 1>spattered dropcloths. The room was being redecorated. It was being

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<v Speaker 1>redecorated as a memorial to a man who had volunteered

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<v Speaker 1>to die. A sardonic old man about two hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>old sat on a step ladder, painting a mural he

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<v Speaker 1>did not like. Back in the days when people aged visibly,

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<v Speaker 1>his age would have been guessed at thirty five ors,

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<v Speaker 1>so aging had touched him that much before the cure

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<v Speaker 1>for aging was found. The mural he was working on

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<v Speaker 1>depicted a very neat garden. Men and women in white

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<v Speaker 1>doctors and nurses, turned the soil, planted seedlings, sprayed, bugs,

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<v Speaker 1>spread fertilizer. Men and women in purple uniforms pulled up weeds,

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<v Speaker 1>cut down plants that were old and sickly, raked leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>carried refuse to trash burners. Never, never, never, not in

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<v Speaker 1>medieval Holland nor old Japan had a garden been more formal,

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<v Speaker 1>been better tended. Every plant had all the loam, light, water, air,

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<v Speaker 1>and nourishment it could use. A hospital orderly came down

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<v Speaker 1>the corridor, singing under his breath a popular song. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like my kisses, honey, here's what I will do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go see a girl in purple kiss this sad

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<v Speaker 1>world to dulu. If you don't want my lovin', why

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<v Speaker 1>should I take up all this? I'll get off this

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<v Speaker 1>old planet. Let some sweet baby have my place. The

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<v Speaker 1>orderly looked in at the mural, and the muralist looks

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<v Speaker 1>so real, he said, I can practically imagine I'm standing

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it. What makes you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in it, said the painter. He gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>tyiric smile. It's called the Happy Garden of Life. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's good of doctor Hits, said the orderly. He

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<v Speaker 1>was referring to one of the male figures in white,

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<v Speaker 1>whose head was a portrait of doctor Benjamin Hits, the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital's chief Obstrataian Hits was a blindingly handsome man. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of faces still to fill in, said the orderly.

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<v Speaker 1>He meant that the faces of many of the figures

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<v Speaker 1>in the mural were still blank. All blanks were to

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<v Speaker 1>be filled with portraits of important people on either the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital staff or from the Chicago office of the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Termination. Must be nice to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make pictures that look like something, said the orderly. The

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<v Speaker 1>painter's face curdled with scorn. You think I'm proud of this, daub,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. You think this is my idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>life really looks like. What's your idea of what life

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<v Speaker 1>looks like? Said the orderly. The painter gestured at a

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<v Speaker 1>foul dropcloth. There's a good picture of it, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Frame that, and you have a picture a damn sight

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<v Speaker 1>more honest than this one. You're a gloomy old duck,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you, said the orderly. Is that a crime? Said

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<v Speaker 1>the painter. The orderly shrugged. If you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>here grandpa, he said, And he finished the thought with

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<v Speaker 1>the trick telephone number that people who didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>live anymore were supposed to call. The zero in the

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number he pronounced not The number was two b

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<v Speaker 1>R not to be. It was the telephone number of

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<v Speaker 1>an institution whose fanciful sobriquets included automat Birdland Cannery, catbox,

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<v Speaker 1>d Lausser, easygo, goodbye, happy hooligan, kiss me quick, lucky Pierre, Sheep,

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<v Speaker 1>dip warring blender, weep no more? And why worry? To

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<v Speaker 1>be or not to be? Was the telephone number of

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<v Speaker 1>the municipal gas chambers of the Federal Bureau of Termination.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what phone numbers you should call instead

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<v Speaker 1>of that one? Is the phone numbers that would have

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<v Speaker 1>accompanied these ads if this was recorded in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not. It's recorded in the twenty twenties, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's no phone numbers. I think would that'd be so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an AD and it was like send a

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<v Speaker 1>self address damp envelope for more information. Be so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's ads.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. The painter thumbed his nose at the orderly.

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<v Speaker 1>When I decide it's time to go, he said, it

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<v Speaker 1>won't be at the sheep dip. I'd do it yourself

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<v Speaker 1>or eh, said the orderly, messy business grandpa, Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you have a little consideration for the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up after you? The painter expressed with an

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<v Speaker 1>obscenity his lack of concern for the tribulations of his survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>The world could do with a good deal more mess

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me, he said. The orderly laughed and

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<v Speaker 1>moved on welling. The waiting father mumbled something without raising

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<v Speaker 1>his head, and then he fell silent again. A coarse,

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<v Speaker 1>formidable woman strode into the waiting room on spike keels.

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<v Speaker 1>Her shoes, stockings, trench coat, bag, and overseas cap were

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<v Speaker 1>all purple. The purple the painter called the color of grapes.

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<v Speaker 1>On judgment day, the medallion on her purple musette bag

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<v Speaker 1>was the seal of the Service Division of the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Termination. An eagle perched on a turnstile. The

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<v Speaker 1>woman had a lot of facial hair and unmistakable mustache. Fact.

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<v Speaker 1>A curious thing about gas chamber hostesses was that, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how lovely and feminine they were when recruited, they

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<v Speaker 1>all sprouted mustaches within five years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this where I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to come?

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<v Speaker 2>She said to the painter.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot would depend on what your business was. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't about to have a baby, are you. They

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<v Speaker 1>told me I was supposed to pose for some picture.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, my name is Leora Duncan. She waited, and

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<v Speaker 1>you dunk people? He said, what it?

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<v Speaker 2>Skip it?

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<v Speaker 1>He said that share is a beautiful picture. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>looks just like heaven or something or something, said the painter.

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<v Speaker 1>He took a list of names from his smock pocket. Duncan, Duncan, Duncan,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, scanning the list. Yes, here you are. You're

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<v Speaker 1>entitled to be immortalized. See any faceless body here you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like me to stick your head on. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>few choice ones left. She studied the mural bleakly. Gee,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, they're all the same to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about all. A body's a body, eh, he said, alrighty,

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<v Speaker 1>as a master of fine art, I recommend this body here.

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<v Speaker 1>He indicated a faceless figure of a woman who was

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<v Speaker 1>carrying dried stalks to a trash burner, well siddle or

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<v Speaker 1>a duncan. That's more of the disposal people, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm in service. I don't do any disposing.

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<v Speaker 1>The painter clapped his hands and mocked, delight, you say

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know anything about art, and then you prove

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<v Speaker 1>in the next breath that you know more about it

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<v Speaker 1>than I do. Of course, the sheave carrier is wrong

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<v Speaker 1>for a hostess, A snipper, a pruner, that's more your line.

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<v Speaker 1>He pointed to a figure in purple who was sawing

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<v Speaker 1>a dead branch from an apple tree. How about her?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you like her at all? Gosh, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>and she blushed and became humble. That that puts me

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<v Speaker 1>right next to doctor Hits. That upsets you, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>good gravy, No, she said, it's it's just such an honor. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you admire there em, eh, he said, who doesn't admire him,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, worshiping the portrait of Hits. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>portrait of a tanned, white haired omnipotent Zeus two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty years old, who doesn't admire him? She said again.

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<v Speaker 1>He was responsible for setting up the very first gas

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<v Speaker 1>chamber in Chicago. Nothing would please me more, said the painter,

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<v Speaker 1>than to put you next to him for all time,

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<v Speaker 1>sawing off a limb that strikes you as appropriate. That

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like what I do, she said. She

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<v Speaker 1>was demure about what she did. What she did was

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<v Speaker 1>make people comfortable while she killed them. And while Leora

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<v Speaker 1>Duncan was posing for her portrait, into the waiting room

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<v Speaker 1>bounded Doctor Hits himself. He was seven feet tall, and

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<v Speaker 1>he boomed with importance, accomplishments, and the joy of living well,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Duncan, Miss Duncan, he said, And he made a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing here? He said? This isn't where

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<v Speaker 1>the people leave, this is where they come in. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the same picture together, she said, shyly, good,

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<v Speaker 1>said Doctor Hits heartily, and say, isn't that some picture

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<v Speaker 1>I share? Am honored to be in it with you?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, Let me tell you, he said, I'm honored

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<v Speaker 1>to be in it with you. Without women like you,

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<v Speaker 1>this wonderful world we've got wouldn't be possible. He saluted

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<v Speaker 1>her and moved toward the door that led to the

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<v Speaker 1>delivery rooms. Guess what was just born, he said, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, triplets. He said triplets.

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<v Speaker 2>She said.

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<v Speaker 1>She was exclaiming over the legal implications of triplets, much

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing for sale is, then you would be

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. The law said that no newborn child

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<v Speaker 1>could survive unless the parents of the child could find

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<v Speaker 1>someone who would volunteer to die triplets if they were

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<v Speaker 1>all to live called for three volunteers. Do the parents

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<v Speaker 1>have three volunteers, said Leora Duncan. Last I heard, said

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Hitz. They had one, and they were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>scrape another two up. I don't think they made it,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. Nobody made three appointments with us. Nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>singles going through today unless somebody called in after I left.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name, Welling, said the waiting father, sitting up,

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<v Speaker 1>red eyed and frowsy.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward K.

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<v Speaker 1>Walling Junior is the name of the happy father to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He raised his right hand, looked at a spot on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, gave a hoarsely wretched chuckle. Present he said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Welling, said doctor Hits. I didn't see you, the

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<v Speaker 1>invisible man, said Welling. They just phoned me that your

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<v Speaker 1>triplets have been born, said doctor Hits. They're all fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and so is the mother. I'm on my way and

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<v Speaker 1>to see them now. Hooray, said Welling emptily. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>sound very happy, said doctor Hits. What man in my

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<v Speaker 1>shoes wouldn't be happy, said Welling. He gestured with his

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<v Speaker 1>hands to symbolize care free simplicity. All I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is pick out which one of the triplets is

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<v Speaker 1>going to live. Then deliver my maternal grandfather to the

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<v Speaker 1>happy hooligan and come back here with a receipt. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Hits became rather severe, with Welling towered over him. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe in population control, mister Welling, he said. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's perfectly keen, said Welling. Tautley. Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the good old days when the

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<v Speaker 1>population of Earth was twenty billion about to become forty billion,

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<v Speaker 1>then eighty billion, then one hundred and sixty billion. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a druplet is, mister Welling, said Hits. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>said Welling sulkily. A drupelet, mister Welling, is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the little knobs, one of the little pulpy grains of

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<v Speaker 1>a BlackBerry, said doctor Hits. Without population control, human beings

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<v Speaker 1>would now be packed on this surface of this old

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<v Speaker 1>planet like drupelets on a BlackBerry. Think of it. Welling

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<v Speaker 1>continued to stare at the same spot on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>In the year two thousand, said doctor Hits, before scientists

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in and laid down the law, there wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>enough drinking water to go around, and nothing to eat

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<v Speaker 1>but seaweed, and still people insisted on their right to

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<v Speaker 1>reproduce like jack rabbits, and their right, if possible, to

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<v Speaker 1>live forever. I want those kids, said Welling quietly. I

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<v Speaker 1>want all three of them. Of course you do, said

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Hits. That's only human. I don't want my grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>to die, either, said Welling. Nobody's really happy about taking

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<v Speaker 1>a close relative to the cat box, said doctor Hitz

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<v Speaker 1>gently sympathetically. I wish people wouldn't call it that, said

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<v Speaker 1>Leora Duncan. What said doctor Hits. I wish people wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call it the cat box and things like that. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>It gives people the wrong impression. You're absolutely right, said

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Hits. Forgive me, he corrected himself. Gave the Municipal

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<v Speaker 1>gas Chambers their official title, a title no one ever

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<v Speaker 1>used in conversation. I should have said ethical suicide Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. That sounds so much better, said Leora Duncan.

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<v Speaker 1>This child of yours, whichever one you decide to keep,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Welling, said doctor Hits. He or she is going

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<v Speaker 1>to live on a roomy, clean, rich planet thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>population control, in a garden like that mural there. He

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<v Speaker 1>shook his head. Two centuries ago, when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>young man. It was a hell that nobody thought could

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<v Speaker 1>last another twenty years. Now, centuries of peace and plenty

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<v Speaker 1>stretch before us, as far as the imagination cares to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>He smiled luminously. The smile faded as he saw that

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<v Speaker 1>Welling had just drawn a revolver. Welling shot doctor Hits dead.

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<v Speaker 1>There's room for one, a great, big one, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he shot Leora Duncan. It's only death, he said

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<v Speaker 1>to her, as she fell. There room for two. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he shot himself, making room for all three of

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<v Speaker 1>his children. Nobody came running. Nobody seemingly heard the shots.

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<v Speaker 1>The painter sat down on top of his step ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>looked down reflectively on the sorry scene. The painter pondered

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<v Speaker 1>the mournful puzzle of life, demanding to be born, and

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<v Speaker 1>once born, demanding to be fruitful, to multiply, and to

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<v Speaker 1>live as long as possible, to do all of that

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<v Speaker 1>on a very small planet that would have to last forever.

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<v Speaker 1>All the answers that the painter could think of were grim,

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<v Speaker 1>even grimmer surely than a catbox, a happy hooligan an easygo.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought of war, He thought of plague. He thought

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<v Speaker 1>of starvation, he knew that he would never paint again.

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<v Speaker 1>He let his paint brush fall to the drop cloths below,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he decided he had had about enough of

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<v Speaker 1>life in the happy Garden of life too, and he

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<v Speaker 1>came slowly down from the ladder. He took Welling's pistol,

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<v Speaker 1>really intending to shoot himself, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have the nerve.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he saw the telephone booth in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of the room. He went to it dialed the well

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<v Speaker 1>remembered number two b R not to be Federal Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>of Termination, said a very warm voice of a hostess.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume can I get an appointment, he asked, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>very carefully. We could probably fit you in late this afternoon, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, it might even be earlier if we get

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<v Speaker 1>a cancelation. All right, said the painter. Fit me in

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<v Speaker 1>if you please, and he gave her his name, spelling

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Thank you, sir, said the hostess. Your city,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks you, your country, thanks you, your planet, thanks you.

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<v Speaker 1>But the deepest thanks of all is from future generations.

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<v Speaker 1>The end. So there's a lot going on in this story, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I like read the story, and I was like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to read this, but and then I read

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<v Speaker 1>it again and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna The

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<v Speaker 1>way that he plays lightly with this stuff is so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me. But there's two of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he plays with that are, you know, seemingly the darkest

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<v Speaker 1>and the most dangerous to tread upon, both the discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of suicide and also explicitly using gas chambers. But he

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<v Speaker 1>lost his mother to suicide before he went off and

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<v Speaker 1>fought the Nazism and was taken captive by them and

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<v Speaker 1>survived that as well. So it's like he's playing with

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that he knows about that he has had to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with, you know. And eight years before he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this story, or before this story was published, he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a story called The Big Trip Up Yonder and this

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<v Speaker 1>is about It's set earlier or the population is exploding

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<v Speaker 1>because death has been solved, like no one's dying of

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<v Speaker 1>old age, and it's kind of a satirical story about

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<v Speaker 1>this family living in a very small apartment and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all like scrambling over who gets to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>will whenever like great Grandpa eventually you know, winds up

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<v Speaker 1>dying somehow or another, and how everyone just like misses

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<v Speaker 1>having privacy and like overcrowding and stuff. Right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think that this is a story as a deep

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<v Speaker 1>critique of eugenics, right, even though it's like playing with this,

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<v Speaker 1>like what would we do? And what's interesting is that

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<v Speaker 1>we actually do have information about what we would do,

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<v Speaker 1>like how population numbers go down. Now that there's like

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<v Speaker 1>an inherent good or bad to that I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>write this into a script. I don't have a study

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me or whatever. I've read about studies

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<v Speaker 1>where as soon as you offer people were capable of

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<v Speaker 1>having birth, as soon as you offer them information about

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<v Speaker 1>birth control and things like that, population growth starts to decline.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically like feminism is the actual answer to the

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<v Speaker 1>limitation of living in a world with finite resources, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not addressed specifically in here. Instead it's like people

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<v Speaker 1>being like, oh shit, what do we do? Right? But

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the painter, right, I like this person

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<v Speaker 1>who's just like, honestly, this like paining I'm drawing on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. This isn't the real reflection of society, like

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<v Speaker 1>the splatter on the drop cloths, that's the real reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of society. And like, how well done is this fucking writing?

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<v Speaker 1>Where it's like, oh, and then that's reflected because like

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<v Speaker 1>and they all die on the drop cloth, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>how like the person is like, oh a do it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself for is not going to be messy forever asked

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up after you. But they killed all the

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<v Speaker 1>people on the drop cloths, right, and so it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's a really well crafted story. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read more Vonnegut. I've read a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of him, but I'm going to read more of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is this week's Cool Zone Media book Club.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will catch you all next week when I

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<v Speaker 1>read you more stories from one of the three modes,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you'll come up with a fourth mode. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle's on Media book Club?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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