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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario.

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Speaker 2: I love a.

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Speaker 1: Conversation where my guests and I can celebrate the work

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Speaker 1: that you love, which we do quite a bit in

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Speaker 1: this episode.

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Speaker 2: So buckle up. But then we go deep.

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Speaker 1: It's a conversation that's raw and honest and so very

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Speaker 1: vulnerable because that's how we collectively feel seen. I always

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Speaker 1: say that I swear by it, and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just like we're in this crazy life together, which

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Speaker 1: I think has tremendous value. So my guest today is

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Speaker 1: the brilliant Melissa O'Neil, who you know and you love

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Speaker 1: from the snash hit series The Rookie. Now The Rookie

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Speaker 1: just wrapped it's seventh season, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: the very first and only interviews Melissa has done after

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Speaker 1: that series finale, which I'm just so grateful for her time.

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Speaker 1: Today she is answering all of our burning questions. So

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Speaker 1: in her honor, pour yourself a cozy cup of tea

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Speaker 1: because she did the interview from her veris Nte room,

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Speaker 1: which I have tremendous fomo over. And now I think

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Speaker 1: I need to redesign my home and get one immediately,

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Speaker 1: get comfortable, and enjoy getting to know with some very

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Speaker 1: different sides to a magical human being. Okay, with all

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Speaker 1: of that being said, let's see if we can get

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Speaker 1: Melissa to say something that she has never said before.

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Speaker 2: Melissa O'Neil, how are you, my friend?

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Speaker 3: I'm so well, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you here today. You have

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Speaker 1: been a highly requested guest on my show. I have

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Speaker 1: to tell you really, Yes, you have. Over the years

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Speaker 1: of seen your name pop up quite a bit and

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Speaker 1: timing lended itself to this moment, and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: to be hanging out with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are we too? I wish we'd done it in

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Speaker 3: person with the upfronts, but yeah, happy we could make

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Speaker 3: it work.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know that just means you'll come back,

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Speaker 1: We'll have you in studio, We'll have fun.

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Speaker 3: I would love that.

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Speaker 2: Good good.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, we have a lot to cover today,

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Speaker 1: and I guess to begin, h I have a burning

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Speaker 1: question for you. Okay, how do you and your co

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Speaker 1: star Eric Winter nail that lingering stare like almost slow

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Speaker 1: Because it's pretty epic.

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Speaker 3: Really, I feel like every every enduring, you know, romantic

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Speaker 4: I don't is it is it? Is it out of

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Speaker 3: I don't think we've never broken character when we've had

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Speaker 3: to do anything like that. I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: we we are paid the medium big bucks to build

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Speaker 3: I do think there's like a shorthand with Eric and I.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how that came about,

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Speaker 3: but it's been there since day one. We were we

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Speaker 3: just another form of intimacy that allows.

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Speaker 5: Us to also explore lingering like intact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. No, it's such a you

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Speaker 1: It's such a I don't know, sexy moment every time

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Speaker 1: It's so great that finale which just aired.

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Speaker 1: Been a season of Will They or won't they get together?

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Speaker 1: And we were kind of left off on a cliffhanger, right,

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Speaker 4: We get like they see.

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Speaker 3: These things in the relationship that even we don't pick

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Speaker 1: There is a comfort in just being able to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sense of home. I've talked about those two

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Speaker 3: There's a sense of home, and that's I think that's

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Speaker 1: in which of course begs the question. In season eight, like,

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Speaker 3: But I do think that there is a sense of

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Speaker 3: But I read an interview from our showrunner the other

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Speaker 3: and so congrats to Chinford Nation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like a win. It is a win.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge win.

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Speaker 1: I think people are going to be I don't know,

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Speaker 1: having a parade down the streets after hearing that that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: That was a total left field for me when that happened.

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Speaker 5: That when the revelation that she.

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Speaker 5: Was a clue of where that was happening there.

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Speaker 3: And it is such a credit to our writers that

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Speaker 3: Whether or not everybody thinks that that is they would

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Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that that the forgiveness will be a

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Speaker 4: Back into old habits.

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Speaker 5: It could absolutely be that.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes the stuff that you beef about, like time,

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Speaker 3: You know, she's got through a lot of traumatic stuff

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Speaker 3: She's not the type of person who's going to linger

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Speaker 5: Lot of love in her heart, especially for this guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dating is not easy, right, We've all been there.

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Speaker 2: We've all been there.

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Speaker 1: I don't quite know how you do it though, in

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Speaker 1: terms of a long relationship on a show for seven seasons,

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Speaker 1: keeping it fresh, keeping it interesting, keeping it exciting, keeping

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Speaker 1: it real and honest, which I think is also a

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Speaker 1: really fun as an artist to explore something so long term,

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Speaker 3: I think it is fun and it can be challenging

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Speaker 1: Hello, was there ever anything in your career where you

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, it happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: work on it.

442
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's important to be amenimal in a creative environment,

443
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: and also to not be precious, too precious about your things,

444
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: about your ideas, about the way you're looking. You know.

445
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: I think all of that stuff is very important in television,

446
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: which can seem counterintuitive when you're talking about a bunch

447
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: of actors who it's like it's their job to be

448
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 3: like mostly concerned with this specific space regarding the self.

449
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, again, that's another aspect of like the humbling

450
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: part of my time here. It's good to remember like, yes,

451
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm doing this thing, and also I'm just

452
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: one small part, and I think that keeps right relationship

453
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 3: in check, you.

454
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, for sure, for sure.

455
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: So as the human Melissa, what parts of y for

456
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: you come very natural and what are more challenging for you?

457
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: M Lucy is probably a lot more action based and decisive,

458
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: And by action based, I mean like she can take

459
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: a decision and.

460
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 5: Determine herself towards it.

461
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: You know, the amount of times that we've seen her

462
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: or or heard about her studying very hard for a test.

463
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, that could not be me.

464
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: I'm an actor.

465
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: No, no, no, but that's that's not something the academic world

466
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: is a place that I'm drawn to recreationally, but I

467
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: don't think I would ever have been able to pursue

468
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: it in a proper way. That is a lot of dedication.

469
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: But I do think that this spirit of being action

470
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: based towards like she has an altruistic heart. She's quick

471
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: to help people, and that feels very accessible to me,

472
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: you know, in to play those moments in a space

473
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: of like absolute truth feels very accessible because I'm like, duh,

474
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: of course, you know, like, of course we're going to

475
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: do that. Of course we're going to run over there.

476
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: Of course we're going to like immediately turn the car

477
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: around and come get you. That stuff feels very easy

478
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: to touch.

479
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: And I also think.

480
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: I think all of the romantic stuff in all of

481
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: the iterations it's gone through is listen, I'm a double cancer, Okay,

482
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm very loving, and there's like a

483
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: very maternal, watery energy that like runs through my system

484
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: whether or not I'm aware of it or if I

485
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 3: want it to happen. And I do think that that

486
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: has that's bled in back and forth between like Lucy

487
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: and I with the way that she is with her coworkers,

488
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 3: her roommates, her lovers. Like it's just kind of it

489
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: exists in that space, and it doesn't hurt that all

490
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: of the people that I've had the pleasure of being

491
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: paired up with for scene work, they're all just really lovely.

492
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: So like that kind of also really makes it makes

493
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: work very easy.

494
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you I mean, it's not easy. You

495
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: make it look easy, That's the truth of it all.

496
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: We've seen so many great moments from you this season.

497
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: When you think back on season seven, was there a

498
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: favorite moment for you, a favorite scene?

499
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: Oh? Y, I do feel like you know, Lucy, let

500
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: me see here.

501
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: Be careful, I'm intrigued, you know.

502
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: I know, I know I have to be careful about

503
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: how I talk sometimes because God bless them, our fans

504
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: pay very very close attention and sometimes a sound bite

505
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: can be pulled out and made into something, and I

506
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: want to be mindful of that. As we are three

507
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: quarters of the way in. Yeah, I want to reflect

508
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: on this season. Let's see, Alexi was directing us. My

509
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: character in particular, was like in a totally different place

510
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: energetically than where she was at the end of the

511
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 3: previous season, and I was like, hold on, hold on,

512
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: what's happening, you know. So there was also like that

513
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: collaborative thing that we were talking about earlier that was

514
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: happening in spades, and it was happening with some of

515
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: the other actors as well, and we were just trying

516
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: to figure out what was going on, and all of

517
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 3: the stuff I love about this job were happening in

518
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: and around those first few episodes when we were establishing

519
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: the tone for this new season after a massive time

520
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: jump and a contextual jump. It was a lot of

521
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: different things going on. And yet even though I think

522
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't understand what's going on, there

523
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: was a real sweetness to revisiting an old relational dynamic

524
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: for Lucy with Bradford, Lucy with everybody else in the

525
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: station that I found so charming. So there's like a

526
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: part of my brand that was like, I don't understand

527
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: what's going on right now, and then the other aspect

528
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 3: was thinking, this is really sweet. We haven't done this

529
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: in years, you know, So in that way it was

530
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: kind of it helped me to understand what Alexi was

531
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: trying to touch, Like the sweetness that Alexi was trying

532
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: to give the audience and bring back to the audience

533
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: after a season of.

534
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 5: Like sad breakup, you know. So that was that was interesting.

535
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was my favorite scene from

536
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: this season, but I appreciated the environment behind it.

537
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

538
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool to hear. I mean, there's a

539
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: lot that happened this season. Excuse me, I should say, sergeant,

540
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: do I need to call you?

541
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: Sergeant?

542
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: You may?

543
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: You may?

544
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: You just walk around saying please call me that. What

545
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: was your reaction to that happening? Did you see that coming?

546
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: I we we knew we were working in that direction,

547
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: So yes, I did. I did see that coming. I

548
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: did feel for a little bit like a loss of

549
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: these other dreams that she had and was working very

550
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 3: strongly towards as far as her UC career and becoming

551
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: a detective, and that big letdown, especially because we had

552
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: spent so much time establishing even to the point that

553
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: she was saying to her superiors like I don't want

554
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: to do this, I want to do this, Like this

555
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: is what I really want to do, you know. So

556
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: it was in character something that she was very passionate

557
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: about to the point of sacrificing this people pleaser that

558
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: she is, you know, and at the same time I

559
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: understand in the in the context of the world of

560
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: the rookie, you know, there's only so much you can

561
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: do with one type of storyline, wanting to branch out

562
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: and do something different. So I am sad to see

563
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: the undercover thing slip away, and who knows, things can

564
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: always come back. It's not like her undercover capacities died,

565
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: but it'll be interesting to see. I think one of

566
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: the things I'm looking forward to if they decide to

567
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: explore that, is what happens when a person who is

568
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: relatively young in the field is promoted to a place

569
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: of seniority and power and likely over other people who

570
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: are older and maybe who have been on the force longer.

571
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 6: You know.

572
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see, like how the power dynamics play out,

573
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: and if we're even going to touch that. I think

574
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: that's an interesting space to investigate. Also having two people,

575
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still outranking her, but to have Bradford

576
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: and essentially both be sergeants, maybe them having different opinions

577
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: about how to do things. We kind of saw that

578
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: with how they were being training officers, but I think

579
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: there's something interesting there to explore just how we navigate

580
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: power structure. But I have no idea what's going to happen.

581
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that stoaked for her though they keep you guys

582
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: in the dark. They're like, we are not risking anything leaking.

583
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

584
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: Well, and I think they're also figuring it out too,

585
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: and as the season unfolds, that helps to inform what

586
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: else they're going to write. But yeah, we are fully,

587
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: fully in the dark. I have no idea what's coming.

588
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you ever whisper in the writer's ears? And

589
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: I know they're amazing capable and talented, and you know,

590
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: are brilliant and do their thing, but are you ever.

591
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Like, hey, I'm thinking this idea for season eight.

592
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: You know what's funny.

593
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: I was chatting with my team the other day because,

594
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: excuse me, in the time that I've been doing television,

595
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: I see actors do that all all the time, and

596
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: it always has rubbed me the wrong way because I

597
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: used to be friends with a showrunner who would lament

598
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: about that. He was like, oh, god, and so and

599
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: so came into my office and was trying to so. Yeah,

600
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: I had this like underlying fear of I don't want

601
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: someone to speak about me in this way, so I

602
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: certainly don't want to be that person. And then at

603
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: the same time, the squeaking wheel gets the greens. Baby.

604
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: I've seen it a million times and I haven't figured

605
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: out yet how to overcome this fear of being seen

606
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: as someone troublesome in an undesirable way. You know, there's difficult, yeah, yeah,

607
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: there's good trouble, and then there's like the person who's

608
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: like coming in and trying to stick their.

609
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: Grubby actor fingers into your art.

610
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: Like that's not what they're paid for, it's not what

611
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 3: I'm paid for, and so I try I've tried not

612
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: to do that, and I did once early in the show.

613
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: Early in the show, like in the earlier seasons, I

614
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: sent Alexi and email once where I was like, I'm

615
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: not going to say it because I know that people

616
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: will latch onto it, but.

617
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, I just want to say I've

618
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: never seen anything like this, and I thought that maybe

619
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: this would be a cool thing to integrate for Lucy's character.

620
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: And it's possible that he just didn't see the email,

621
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: but I never heard from him, and I kind of

622
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: just like let it slide because it really touched on

623
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: that fear that I had from my previous experience where

624
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: were like, ooh, oh, my goodness, I totally overstepped my boundaries.

625
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: So yes, I think there is a threading of the needle.

626
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: There is a narrow path to walk, and I see

627
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: it all the time. There are creatives, there are actors

628
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: who aren't even EPs, who just are emboldened and don't

629
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: care how they're being perceived, And there is something to

630
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: be said for that orientation as well. But at the

631
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: end of the day, you have to do what's right

632
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: for you and how you orient your craft and how

633
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: you orient to the world and yourself as a person.

634
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: And I haven't quite figured that out for myself to

635
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: be in a place of comfort, because I think there

636
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: are some environments where it's welcome and other environments where

637
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: it's not that it's not welcome. There's just a clear boundary,

638
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: you know. And that's not like a negative thing. It's

639
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: just like, this is where I stand, and this is

640
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: where you stand, and let's.

641
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: Work like this.

642
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: One day, when the Rookie comes to an end thirty

643
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: five years from now, what would you want Lucy's endgame

644
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: to be? Like anything can happen, of course, we're just

645
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: having fun here, but like, what do you see as

646
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: her final endgame?

647
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: I was reflecting this morning that something that I don't

648
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: know why. I kind of focus on what have we

649
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: not seen? What are we not seeing? I think about that.

650
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

651
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: It's like a hook that I have in my brain

652
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: for some and I was thinking this morning, I was like,

653
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: where are we going with her? And I know that

654
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like family house kids, and

655
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: maybe it's because it's an aspect of my own reality,

656
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: and so I seek to be reflected in the media

657
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: that I consume, you know, So it's perhaps this, But

658
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: if you ever like you do you do you listen

659
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: to Tracy alis Ross or like have you seen her? Like?

660
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: Sound right?

661
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's something really interesting to me about like

662
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: the free anti you know, who is just crushing life.

663
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: And maybe things didn't work out the way that she hoped,

664
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 3: or it's not even about the way that she hoped.

665
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: It's like things are great and this is how life

666
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: would folded, and there's nothing wrong with that either. We

667
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: haven't really seen that. I know that's not going to

668
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: be the most popular thing, but I wondered if that

669
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: would be an interesting story to have reflected in our

670
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: universe because everyone is in this beautiful heteroonormative nuclear family situation,

671
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: and so I mean, of course I would love for

672
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: Lucy to have the happy ending, but what that looks

673
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: like can mean a lot of different things. Yeah, I

674
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want I'm not I don't know

675
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: if I'm interested in seeing Lucy going out with with

676
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: some wild murder or anything like that. I think we

677
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: want to see her grow old, not just for my

678
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: job security, but like I just get the sense that

679
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: that's a character that we could evolve in a really

680
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: beautiful way. I'm not sure, and I think, my this

681
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: this could be just muscle muscle memory of like trying

682
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: to not have too strong about opinion about my character.

683
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm realizing, you know, like this could just be a

684
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: well worn eight year synapse firing of Like I'm open

685
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: to whatever they would like to do.

686
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I think you are for sure. I mean,

687
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: you made it clear you're very respectful of the journey

688
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the writers want to take her on. But I think

689
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I think that's cool that you do have some ideas

690
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: for maybe when that final day comes, and to put

691
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: out there the possibility of her not having perhaps a

692
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: traditional American happy ending, right that we all think of,

693
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: is interesting. I think it's very interesting and relatable, and

694
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: I like that you, as a human can personally relate

695
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: to that in some way.

696
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: You know.

697
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really really interesting and cool and food for thought.

698
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: And hey, we'll see when that time comes thirty five

699
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: years from now.

700
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: What you're like thirty five years, I don't know. I'm

701
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 2: just like, hey, everybody, right, Oh.

702
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: My god, we're going to play this back and watching

703
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: thirty five years that's going to happen. I love it,

704
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: and I love the joy you bring to so many

705
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: through this character and through the show. And I think

706
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: it's so cool that you just seem very balanced in

707
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: your artistry and in your life. And I know being

708
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: a human is equally as important to you as being

709
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: an artist, right, And you've lived a very colorful and

710
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: interesting life, right, starting kind of in music and winning

711
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Canadian Idol and then now being here where you are,

712
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: do you ever get the itch to do more with

713
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: music or a musical or musical theater or Broadway?

714
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I missed Broadway. I met I love music,

715
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: and I've been we've been going to some conventions recently

716
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: and people are breaking out my CD from like.

717
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 5: Twenty years ago.

718
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: Dude, love a good CD.

719
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: It blows my mind. There was there were a couple

720
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: of people in Paris that like had they had private

721
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: one on one meet and greet time and they were like,

722
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: I just want to sing your song with you. But

723
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: I was like, oh girl, I don't know lyrics. So

724
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: that was but it really like shocks me to understand

725
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: that people are still listening or that even something that

726
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: people sti't want, so I'm certainly open to it. It's

727
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: always felt to me that music, if you're making it

728
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: for consumption, is kind of like a young person's game.

729
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: But it hadn't occurred to me just to make it

730
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: for the pleasure of it. Because I love singing.

731
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 5: I do it all the time.

732
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: I just don't do it for a paycheck, you know.

733
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: But God, it brings me so much joy. It makes

734
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: me feel so alive, and I think I would just,

735
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: oh God, I would just die for another opportunity to

736
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: find myself on stage. There's absolutely nothing like it. It

737
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: marries all of my favorite things as far as like

738
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: being a storyteller and singing and using that as a

739
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: vehicle to deliver the inner world of a character.

740
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: It's just, oh god, it's so juicy. I love it

741
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 5: so much.

742
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: It would certainly have to be the right thing. And

743
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: again that that does require a certain amount of that

744
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: like inner confidence that we were talking about at the

745
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: very beginning, because the theater world, you know, you've gotta

746
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: you have to get in there, and there's so much talent,

747
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: there's so much rich talent out there, and it has

748
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: its own ecosystem of how it operates. So I do

749
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: think it would require a little bit of unwrapping of

750
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: and also training, because I having done it, it's not

751
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: something to take lightly. It's not something that you can

752
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 3: just be like, oh, yeah, I know, you don't sing

753
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 3: like that. You don't sing like an athlete.

754
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: No you don't.

755
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: So get back in the gym and like do your drills.

756
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: So it would it would take some unwrapping for sure.

757
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: But I would absolutely just be pulled over to have

758
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: another opportunity to be in that space. And I don't

759
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: even I think sometimes there's like that strange it's a

760
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: fun dance that my team and I do because you know,

761
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: after you're doing something for a certain period, of time.

762
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: There can be this feeling. I can the feeling like, well, no,

763
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: that's not worth your time, worth my time?

764
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

765
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to do it for the love

766
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: of it, And I believe that. I like, I understand

767
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: quotes from everything. But I'm not somebody, you know, I

768
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: don't have any dependents, and so like I have liberty

769
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: to do that, and I want to certainly, so I

770
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: hope to do that. I don't have any plans at

771
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: this exact moment. I'm still very much in a space

772
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: of just like being a voyeur and enjoying it for far.

773
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: But yes, I miss it so and I would.

774
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: Love to do that.

775
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: Oh I got ADD'd off. I need to have more

776
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: confidence because I feel like I don't have the chops

777
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: to be in that space, even though I spent like.

778
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: Eight years doing that.

779
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: You know, I think having come from a world of

780
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: a singing competition, there's a lot of at such a

781
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: young age, it's not like terribly legitimate. It doesn't come

782
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: with a pedigree, and so this idea like I'm aware of.

783
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm aware of that way of thinking about it, and

784
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: it is pervasive in my mind.

785
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 4: Instead of reflecting.

786
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: On the celebratory side, which is like, that's so cool

787
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: that I did that at seventeen.

788
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: Like the other aspect, the person.

789
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: Who's been in the industry for so long and seeing

790
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: all the people who have such a developed craft and

791
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: a network that they've developed from having gone through you know,

792
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: post secondary school and then building from their small projects

793
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: and like really earning where they got to.

794
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: Like, I have a lot of respect.

795
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: For that type of grind, And when I reflect on

796
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: my career, there's a lot of just like, hey, I'm here,

797
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: Hey I got fired, what's up? Like it's a blessing

798
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: for me. But I also can sometimes when I really

799
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: get down to brass tacks, it's a little bit hard

800
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: for me to take myself seriously because of that.

801
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting.

802
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like sometimes we glaze over or don't

803
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: honor all the parts of our journey that got us

804
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: to where we are today. I'm guilty of it too, right,

805
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: I was telling you earlier off camera that I like,

806
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I didn't just wake up and become a host, Like

807
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: I've had a million careers in different things, and and

808
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: my husband will always say, like, you know, you always

809
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: kind of don't talk about that, and it's a huge

810
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: part of your story because you want to be where

811
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: you are without that. So I think it's very human

812
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: to do that. And that's very interesting to hear you

813
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: talk about how you feel in relation to the confidence

814
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: of going out there and maybe one day leading a

815
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: musical or whatever the case may be. But something tells me,

816
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: if you want to do it, one day, you're going

817
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: to do it, and and we'll see, we'll see if

818
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: that day comes. Is there a musical just out of

819
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: curiosity that you love or always have loved where you're like,

820
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, playing that role would be a dream.

821
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean obviously I would just die to like not

822
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: be too old to like work in Hamilton. I just like,

823
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: I'm like with every year that passes them, like, oh

824
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting one year away.

825
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: It's so prop but I.

826
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 5: Yes, what an incredible piece of art.

827
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so like, I'm such a fan girl over

828
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: fill up with suit like she's just I saw her

829
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: and do you remember what was the what was the

830
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: comment was the eighteen twelve comm Did you see that

831
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: one show that she was in?

832
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: It was like in the tent in the parking lot

833
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 5: across from the nails.

834
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: But I know what you're talking about.

835
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just I've seen I've seen her

836
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: on the lot too, because we were shooting on the

837
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: same lot, because she's doing the other the Oh.

838
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: God, I forgot.

839
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, ABC. I forget the name of it.

840
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor, doctor, Yeah, good job.

841
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: But I've seen her before and I'm.

842
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: Just like, oh, she's she's just a dream.

843
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so talented. She's the best.

844
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So we have maybe Broadway coming up.

845
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier maybe playing a villain one day. Would

846
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: you ever do something in the supernatural space.

847
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love the sci fi supernatural world.

848
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: I think those fans are like nobody's fans, like they

849
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: just they because so my first TV gig was this

850
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: amazing sci fi show called dark Matter. It only ran

851
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: for three seasons. It was only supposed to warn for five.

852
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: Very sad story.

853
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: People want you back on that.

854
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: By the way, I would be so well, I was,

855
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: we need to finish it. I just I don't know

856
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: what's going on, Joe. If you ever hear this SoundBite,

857
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: I just I hope we do it one day. But yeah,

858
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: that's a very sad story about how that fell apart

859
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: But anyways, sci fi fans are like no other fans

860
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: in the world. They pay such close attention and they

861
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: get into the nuances of everything and the science and the.

862
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: Tech of it all.

863
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: I love it, and I love the supernatural world too.

864
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: I think of did you watch WandaVision?

865
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: I loved it.

866
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: That was incredible and she crushed it, you know, like

867
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: she was working with a movement coach. I think there's

868
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: something really fun about So. I love Chigong and tai

869
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: chi and martial arts and a lot of the superheroes

870
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: that we're seeing these days, Like there's a manipulation as

871
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: an actor, you're manipulating energy and fields that you, the

872
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: human being cannot see, but your character can. And that

873
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: just touches all the juicy good stuff with like Chigong

874
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: that I would so so be down to play. Yeah. Yeah,

875
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: the more that we can suspend the reality, the more

876
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: of a stretch it is to touch truth in a

877
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: way that is receivable by the viewer.

878
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: And I would absolutely love the opportunity to explore that

879
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 5: a little bit more.

880
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's a lot coming down the

881
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: line for you. I am just saying I can see

882
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: it all happening, and that's really cool. And I love

883
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: the escapism of all of it. I mean, that's why

884
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: fans and people gravitate towards art and TV and all

885
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: of these projects. It's just to be able to escape

886
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: reality and immerse ourselves in a world that's not ours

887
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: is part of the huge appeal and connect with characters

888
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: that really make a difference and make us feel seen

889
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: or happy or joyful, like you do for so many people.

890
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: But aside from being the artist that so many love,

891
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Let's say you have a day off.

892
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: What is the perfect day off for you? Like, what

893
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: do you like to do?

894
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh? My god? Okay, so the perfect day off starts

895
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 3: off with me waking up probably around like four thirty five.

896
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: There's like a really juicy quiet space and stillness to

897
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: the air. You know, like if you wake up at

898
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 3: that hour for like a flight or something that you like,

899
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: open the windows and you can even feel it. There's

900
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: a vibration, yeah, vibrations, right, we feel the bustle of

901
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: the city. You can hear like the air blower, some

902
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: fime blow are happening over there, and like when all

903
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: of that is so still, that is like the absolute

904
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 3: perfect time to drink tea in the morning.

905
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: It's so sublime. So I'll come in here.

906
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: We're in my tea space right now. I'll come in here,

907
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 3: set the kettle, sit down. I have a lamp that's

908
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: got really dim light, and I love drinking tea before

909
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: this sun rises, and then as the.

910
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 5: Sun is rising.

911
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: It's really sweet to like start in the dark and

912
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 3: then you end and the room is like fully lit

913
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: and like I'm ready to start the day. Then I'm

914
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: probably going to hot yoga and just getting destroyed by

915
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: one of my absolute favorite yoga teachers. And then normally

916
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: I would have said, hang out with my dogs for

917
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: the rest of the day, but they're not here anymore.

918
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: They've passed recently, so I'm kind of like doing a

919
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: thank you. I'm kind of like in a strange empty

920
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: nest zone right now, which is really bizarre, of like

921
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: recalibrating what do I do with my time? But I

922
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: think right now what I would say. I'm also my

923
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: friend's made of honor, so that's taking up all my

924
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: free time. But if I had a fully free moment,

925
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: I have a couple of creative projects that I really

926
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: want to gift myself.

927
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 5: The discipline to devote.

928
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have, I have a I have a film

929
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: that I'm trying to write, and I have I love

930
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: photography and I kind of want to put together like

931
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: a little photo book. I don't know, it's I'm just

932
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm like chewing on it. It's just something small for myself.

933
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: But I think it's important to nurture your relationship with

934
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: the muse, and it's something I'm working on. I don't

935
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't tend to it. I'm definitely somebody who's like

936
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: I have to wait to feel creative and like wait

937
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: for it to hit me. And my intellectual understanding of

938
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: that is that that is not a fruitful way to

939
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: have that relationship. It's meant to be tended to daily.

940
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: So yes, I think I do that.

941
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: You strike me as a very grounded person, and I

942
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: feel like, on a separate episode, we could talk for

943
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: three hours about energy and what you put out because

944
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm so like that too, and I'm so I just

945
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I live it.

946
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: I believe it.

947
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: It's it's eyeballs you have. Do you know what shen is? No, shen,

948
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: It's it's like a it's like a life force. It's

949
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: a life for it's another like traditional Chinese medicine term,

950
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: but like your jing is also your life force, but

951
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: like shin is something that like shines through your eyes,

952
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: like when you're vibrant, and like through your life force

953
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: is like coursing through you, and.

954
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 5: It really like shines through your eyes. You have you

955
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 5: have very bright shin.

956
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I've never heard that before. That is

957
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: so cool and I appreciate that. I I I mean

958
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: every day I think the universe and whatever you may

959
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: believe in for being here, and just I live very

960
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: gratitude forward and present. I try to be as present

961
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: as possible. So I think all of the cycle of

962
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: energy and all of that is so fascinating. Like I said,

963
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: we could talk about that for another so I'm not

964
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: going to bore everyone, but I think one thing that

965
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: strikes me about you is you seem to live very

966
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: positive forward, and whether that's a choice or just who

967
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: you are, it seems that it's something that's very important

968
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: for your growth and your existence, and that's just kind

969
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: of how you're programmed. Is it easy for you to

970
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: live in that sort of way or do you kind

971
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: of make that conscious choice day after day.

972
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: I think when you come from a space that is

973
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: difficult and hard. When life gets good, you have at

974
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: least a baseline perspective of how blessed you are, you know,

975
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: Like it's hard. It's really hard to be upset, and

976
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: it's really hard to be upset. I get upset about

977
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: little things all the time. But there is so much

978
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: to just enjoy and be happy and pleasant about. And

979
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: it is a matter of orientation, and it is something

980
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: that can be practiced. And now I don't think about

981
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: it as much, although I forget and then I go, oh,

982
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 3: I need to remember, you know. But there were many

983
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: years where I was needing to like muscle myself to

984
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: a cushion, to orient to the understanding that nothing is permanent,

985
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: you know. And I think that holding impermanence as a

986
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: truth of cosmos helps you to not be so blotted

987
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: when things get hard, and when things do get hard

988
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: or sad or painful, to feel them fully so that

989
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: you're not storing it away for later, so that it

990
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: can run its life course, because you know it's not

991
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 3: going to be forever, so let me just feel it now.

992
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: That way it can continue on its way and I

993
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: can move on and back to my natural state, which

994
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: is yay, yeah, because it is our natural state. But

995
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: I would say it's it's easier now, but it was

996
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: many years of like meditation and yoka, And I think

997
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: that isn't something I can take credit for, Like, that's

998
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: that's some karmix stuff that I'm very grateful to have

999
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 3: received from whoever gifted that to me. You know, I'm

1000
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: just grateful to have found it again and to you know,

1001
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: roll around in the teachings like a cat in catnip.

1002
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1003
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's first of all one of the best

1004
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: analogies I ever heard. But I think it's it's such

1005
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: a refreshing way to live, and it's a practice for

1006
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and it's a reminder, a daily

1007
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: reminder for a lot of people.

1008
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: And I think that life.

1009
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: Throws so much our way that if we at least

1010
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: can have that baseline of feeling exactly how you described,

1011
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: it just helps us go through life in a much

1012
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: more peaceful kind of way.

1013
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: And I'm all about that. So I think it's.

1014
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: Really cool that you share that that you live that,

1015
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: that you teach it in a way and you know,

1016
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of pass on that wisdom to so many people

1017
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: like you are, right now, and my god, Melissa, I

1018
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: could talk to you for I swear four more hours,

1019
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: but I'm going to wrap it up even though I

1020
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: really don't want to, and you can talk about.

1021
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: A whole other set of things I can tell.

1022
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: I know we really could go like super deep, super deep,

1023
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: super deep. Maybe another day for sure. But the name

1024
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: of the show is called I've never said this before,

1025
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: and it was born from I cover a lot of

1026
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: red carpets and press junkets, and as you know from

1027
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: going to them, it's two minutes with somebody, it's six

1028
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: minutes with somebody, and I just kind of started seeing,

1029
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: maybe intuitively, that people were craving more real conversation and

1030
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: wanting to share something about themselves or whatever it may be.

1031
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: That's not the same sound bite that every outlet gets, right,

1032
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: And I walked away kind of saying.

1033
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: I see something in their eyes. I just there's something more.

1034
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: There's we're missing real moments that I feel like people

1035
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity in your shoes to often have

1036
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: that are uninterrupted and unrushed and truly about you.

1037
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: So that's how the show was born.

1038
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering today if there's anything you can think

1039
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: of that you've never said before that you want to

1040
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: share whatever that means to you.

1041
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is so beautiful. By the way, what

1042
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: a lovely intention for your podcast. I think it's so sweet,

1043
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 3: very very generous. Yeah, so my I did not open

1044
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 3: the email with your zoom link until like three minutes

1045
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: before this, and I opened it and I was like, oh, homework,

1046
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: and I.

1047
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: Was like, oh my gosh.

1048
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that's fine. I was like, let me

1049
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: just sit here, and I close my eyes and I

1050
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: could feel parts of my mind going like what do

1051
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: I want to say? And and then I was like

1052
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't do that because if I think

1053
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: about how it's going to look, I'm gonna like mess

1054
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: this all up.

1055
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: So I just I was like, let me just stop,

1056
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 4: and I fully just like got quiet, and I'm like whatever, I.

1057
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: Never said, oh low, And I was really surprised and

1058
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: a little bit uncomfortable at what I heard, but I'm

1059
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: just going to let go for.

1060
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: It because I don't have anything else prepared.

1061
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: And this is what I heard. What I heard was

1062
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: I love my body.

1063
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh that's.

1064
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true and weird and okay, and I think

1065
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 6: it's so strange being an actress, your a commodity, your

1066
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 6: fleshly vehicle is like this product.

1067
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: You know, As I was getting ready for the upfront,

1068
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: because I spent a whole week becoming a very pretty

1069
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: pony for it, you know, I was getting my hair done,

1070
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: getting my nails done, trying on all these different clothes,

1071
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: making my tail was braided, you know.

1072
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 4: Like, is this whole thing?

1073
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 3: And as somebody who spends or is more interested in

1074
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: spending time with a different aspect of my being here,

1075
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: it is strange to have your body be a representative

1076
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: of you. And I've been like trying to integrate it,

1077
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, like trying to integrate this. I once heard

1078
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: someone refer to the body as like this sacred animal

1079
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: that you've been gifted in this lifetime that's like carrying you.

1080
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: To take care of it and to think about it

1081
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: in this kind of separate way. For me was really

1082
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: useful because taking care of a sacred animal, Oh girl,

1083
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: I will do that to the end of my days,

1084
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: you know. But for some reason, when it was like

1085
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: just me, I was like, I don't care about this

1086
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: part of me. I'm more interested in my soul or

1087
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: my consciousness or whatever. I wasn't grounded, you know, and

1088
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 3: dismissing this part. And I think in this industry as well,

1089
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 3: like there's so much concern with it that you're not

1090
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 3: immune to understanding that there are certain things that are

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Speaker 3: desirable certain things that are not. And then also like

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Speaker 3: my I have gone through so much fluctuation in eight

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00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: years my body on this show. It's a journey, and

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00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: people treat you differently when you look different ways, and

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: it's fine, you know, because that's just how it is. Again,

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Speaker 3: this goes back to like the furral brow thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: but everyone treats you differently depending on how you look,

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Speaker 3: and that's always very interesting to feel and experience from

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Speaker 3: behind your eyeballs to like see that happen and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 3: I still feel like what in both directions, you know,

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Speaker 3: like oh, they're being a little bit more dismissive or

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Speaker 3: they're being a lot nicer to me, Like what's that about?

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Speaker 3: So all that to say is what a wonderful prompt

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Speaker 3: and thank you because I really feel like I am

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Speaker 3: kind of going to be going away from this podcast.

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Speaker 5: It's like me of it, but like I'm going to

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Speaker 5: go away from this and just.

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Speaker 3: I want I want to be someone who says that, like,

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Speaker 3: I love my body because it's it's been through a

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Speaker 3: lot with me and it's carried me and it's so strong,

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Speaker 3: and it's so funny to me how women, so many women,

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Speaker 3: and then we all have this crazy experience and to

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Speaker 3: live in Western society that has so much focus on

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Speaker 3: this part, but they don't regard it as your sacred animal.

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Speaker 5: They regard it as commodity to profit from.

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Speaker 4: Is it's hard for my sensitive cancerrian.

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Speaker 3: Soul, you know, And so I'm looking forward to taking

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Speaker 3: that unexpected nugget of like realization and tending to that,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, thank you for the question, and yeah, I

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Speaker 5: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, thank you for opening up and sharing that,

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Speaker 1: because I know it's not something that's always the most

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Speaker 1: comfortable to talk about or even admit to, you know,

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Speaker 1: oneself or other people.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's something so deeply.

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Speaker 1: Relatable and powerful because so many people go through it

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Speaker 1: and pick themselves apart and notice things that maybe other

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Speaker 1: people don't even notice, but in our minds it's like

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Speaker 1: the biggest.

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Speaker 2: Thing in the world right right.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just so it's it's more common than I

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Speaker 1: think people let on, and I think when they hear

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Speaker 1: it from someone like you, who is such a vibrant

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Speaker 1: and beautiful soul inside and out, it's it's really helpful

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Speaker 1: to feel less alone and to maybe start getting to

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Speaker 1: the place where seemingly you are where you say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I do.

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Speaker 2: Love my own body and I'm thankful for it, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, everybody, now.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was really beautiful, this whole conversation. I just love

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Speaker 1: that we could celebrate the show that means so much

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01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: to so many, but really get to know you in

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Speaker 1: a deeper way. And I thank you for being so open.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know in studio yesterday didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: but you still wanted to come do this and I'm

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Speaker 1: so glad you did because this really was a wonderful conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for all of your questions

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Speaker 3: and your time and being open to rescheduling.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. And I'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: I hope, yes, I hope you're coming to New York

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01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: maybe this summer and we can I don't know, take

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: hot yoga and go look at the full moon, and

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Speaker 1: you can teach me more things about what is it.

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Speaker 2: Called the eyes? The shen, the shen like shen, s

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Speaker 2: h e and sheen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I look forward to another lesson from you soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my love, Thank you so much for hanging out.

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Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Didario.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi at Iheartrate

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Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've

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