1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: Puffball Chuck, and there's Blowball Jerry, and I like to 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: call me Monk's Head and this is stuff you should do. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Did you get those references? 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: Uh? Sure? 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Well we should probably explain them to everybody else 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: because they probably think it's an in joke, but it's 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: not at all. Number one, because we're about to share 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: it with you. Number two, it's not really a joke. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: And number three, those are alternate names for dandelions. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: That's right, and we're going to be exalting the dandelion 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: probably say a lot of times how great we think 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: it is. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry if you hate dandelions. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, how it's unfairly maligned. And we want to thank 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Sarah Andrews from Idaho because Sarah is a listener who's 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: sent this in. 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: Nice, very nice. Thanks a lot, Sarah. Every time I 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: hear Idaho, I'm reminded of that silly T shirt that 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: said Idaho Daho. Do you remember that one? 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: I never saw that one? 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: What was that one? There was a company called like 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Dangerous t Shirts or something like that. And they had like, man, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: they were killing it with the crazy T shirts for 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: a while in like the early two thousands. 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Was that like instead of saying coch it would say 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, poke or cocaine. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of thing. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of sometimes more original than that, but yeah, 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: they were coveted for a little bit among people who 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: liked incubus and stuff like that. 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: Uh. I couldn't name an Incuba's song, so that's not me. 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's get back to dandelions. I don't know 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: how we ever get off track. It's kind of strange, 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: but it happens from time to time, and it just happened, chuck. 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: So let's stop it from happening right now. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Right, because dandelions, as you will see, have had a long, 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: rich history that we're going to talk about in depth 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: as a medicinal plant, as an edible plant, as a 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: wonderful pollinator, and it was recast as a villain as 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: a weed to get rid of. But you need only 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: look at the history of the dandelion, the fact that 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: it was brought to North America by colonists to kind 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: of underscore the fact that we wanted the dandelion here. 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Right, and it's important to say that they brought it 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: here on purpose. I saw somebody point out like this, 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't it didn't hit your ride. It was like 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: purposely brought here. And the idea that dandelions suck is 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: a really recent development, especially compared to how long people 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: valued and prized dandelions. I just find that fascinating for sure. 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: This thing is about thirty million years old. 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Native in sort of Atlantic Europe all the way to 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: Siberia and in the northern Hemisphere. You're gonna know a 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: dandelion because between March and October, you're gonna see these 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: beautiful yellow flowers. You'll see some what's called a rosette, 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: which are these very short level ground stems that grow 58 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: in a circular pattern, and then these little slender, green 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: hollow stalks, you know, two to twenty inches, but usually 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: at least around here the dandelions are i don't know, 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: like eight inches. 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems about right. That's my experience as well. 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: So one of the other really impressive things about the 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: dandelion is if you look really closely at the flower, 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: each individual pedal has a little what becomes the part 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: of the puffball. When the flower seeds. It already is attached, 68 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: and that thing is called the papas and at the 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: bottom of the PAPIs is the seed, and the papos 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: itself is like this like parachute essentially that keeps the 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: seed aloft. And research into I saw pepeye, but I 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: like papusas as the plural. 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: Oh I love peppy. 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: So it's found that they're actually phenomenal at keeping the 75 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: seeds aloft. Like they create a kind of vortex that, 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: until it was seen when they started testing pappy was 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: thought to be impossible. 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that vortex not only makes it, you know, 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: travel up and out and away in such a way 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: that if it was shaped any differently it wouldn't do that. 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: But if that little thing lands on water, that same 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: vortex is going to form a little air bubble around 83 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: it and protect it. 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my prize possessions is this dandelion puffball 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: in cased in resin, and it's like the real deal. 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: And I've never understood how it worked, but it turns 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: out that if you actually take a dandelion puffball and 88 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: actually not just put water in a but submerge it 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: in water, the puffball does not. It doesn't collapse. Isn't 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: that nuts? 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I think so too. So that's just one of the 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: many amazing things we're going to reveal today on stuff 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: you should know. 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Did I wander into the wrong show? 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Know? 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: Well, we should tell everybody it's ten am, and we 98 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: usually refer to this one. So I'm a much different 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: person at ten am. 100 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: You're a news anchor. Apparently, So I mentioned yellow. They're 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: not always yellow. They can be orange, they can be white, 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: they can be kind of purply peach. They open in 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: the morning and close in the evening, which is given 104 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: them the name the shepherd's clock, and they do that 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: to preserve pollen and keep that pollen safe for the 106 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: next day, which also makes it and this is one 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite words at photo nasty. 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's a great word. 109 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, plants open and close with the setting and rising 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: of the sun. 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, felt photo nasty. 112 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: Huh. I saw like a time lapse. I actually it 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: was in a video. It's just a series of photos 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: of the dandelion flower opening and closing over the course 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: of the day. I found I ran across a word 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: from researching this that I'd never heard before that I 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: absolutely love. Dandelions, like you said, are edible. They're used 118 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 2: in cooking their culinary plant, which makes them a pot herb. 119 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: One word, a potterb. Is that awesome? What a great 120 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: homey little like. I just imagine you know, hobbits using 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: that word. 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, hobbits. And my wife, Oh. 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: Does she call it potterbs? You've heard that before? 124 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, she's I mean, that's a weird talking 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: about dandelions today. And she was just like, oh, are 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you gonna talk about this? 127 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: This, this, this, this, this. 128 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Right, She's like, oh, the famous potter. 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: It's also another kind of clock. 130 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: You know. 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: I already mentioned the shepherd's clock because of opening and 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: closing it at the sunrise and sunset. But those little 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: seed heads they're called dandelion clocks, and that is from 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: the old you know, you make a wish when you 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: blow the dandelion and you scatter those seeds as sort 136 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: of a long rich childhood tradition. But apparently the number 137 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of puffs it takes to empty that thing is what 138 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: time it is, so it can I haven't tested this out. 139 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know this is rock solid science, but that's 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: a sort of a thing. 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: It's pretty neat. 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: And one other thing about those papass and the seeds 144 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: that are attached to them, there's a longstanding, i guess, 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: kind of urban legend or maybe rural legend that they 146 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: can travel up to one hundred kilometers sixty two miles, 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: and that does not seem to be the case, even 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: though you'll see that stat absolutely everywhere, including some legitimate places. 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: But Kyle helped us with this, our British buddy, and 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: he found that a two thousand and three study, which 151 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: is the most recent you can find on this, is 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: that just one in seven thousand papises travels more than 153 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: one kilometer. So just leave one hundred kilometers out of 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 2: the whole equation. 155 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And Kyle told us that because he's from England. 156 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: But for our North American listeners, we're talking three hundred 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: and twenty something feet if it's one hundred kilometers in 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: about three and a half feet for a meter. 159 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And apparently ninety nine and a half percent of 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: all papists land just within thirty feet of the parent plant, 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: which is also ten meters. So yes, if you ever 162 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: hear that a papist contain travel one hundred kilometers, you 163 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: can be like, that's wrong. What you just said is wrong. 164 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I think like one did, and they framed that maybe 165 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: that's the one you have in amber. 166 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that first dollar bill you make as 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: a business, you put it into amber. 168 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 169 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: There's also a cool adaptation where after they flower, that 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: little hollow stalk that the flower sits upon goes limp 171 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: on the ground and is just sort of hiding there 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: away from birds and stuff, And when they ripen up, 173 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: they jump back up again and they're like, here we are. 174 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. I think so too. Do you want 175 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: to take a break and come back and talk about 176 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: where they got their name? Let's do it, so chuck 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: a dandelion. I've never stopped and considered why it was 178 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: called that, but it turns out that whole that lion 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: at the end is actually a giveaway for where the 180 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: name came from. Uh. It's French for lion's tooth dent 181 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: de leon pretty neat. 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: I love that. 183 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: The reason they call it that is it's a reference 184 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: to the deeply serrated jagged leaves. I guess somebody was like, 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: that looks like a lion's tooth, and they lived in France, 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: and that's where they got the name dandelion. 187 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also if you look at the botanical name, 188 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: it really gives a good indication of what it was 189 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 1: being used for back then. The genus name is Taraxicum. 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: And there are a couple of explanations here. I kind 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: of like the second one. The first one is a 192 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Greek word for disorder, which is a taxia. 193 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: But it's also could. 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Have come from Arabic for bitter herb, which is tarak chagogue. 195 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: And then when you combine bitter herb with the species name, 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: which is how would you say that aficion alle, that 197 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: is a word for monastery store room. So a bitter 198 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: herb in a monastery storeroom basically is telling you, hey, 199 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: we use this plant in a very productive way. 200 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole disorder thing is totally insensible if you 201 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: ask me. 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 203 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: So one of the other great things. Humans use dandelions, 204 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: as we'll see, in a lot of different ways and 205 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: have for a very long time. But our animal friends 206 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: love dandelions too. Those flowers, even though they look kind 207 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: of flimsy if you think about it, they're rich in 208 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: nectar packed with it. So bees, butterflies, basically any kind 209 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: of pollinators love dandelions, Like you said, the reason the 210 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: stalk falls to the ground after flowering and as the 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: seedheads are developing, that's because birds love the little dandelion seeds. 212 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: And one of the other things that's important about them 213 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: too is they they basically flower and seed almost around 214 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: the like the whole year, depending on where you live. 215 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: So at times where there's not a lot of food 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: sources for birds and pollinators, the dandelions there to kind 217 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: of keep them going through the same you know, late fall. 218 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think it's one of the first 219 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: guys to get going in the spring. 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: Too, right, I believe so. Yeah, So we're going to get. 221 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: More in detail about you know, how it's been eaten, but. 222 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: Well, actually let's save all that. 223 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: Let's just tease it then and say it has long 224 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: been eaten as now being eaten again due to the 225 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: sort of foraging movement happening in the culinary world. 226 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: It's a great time. 227 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: I think that kind of kicked off in COVID when 228 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: people are like, well, I can't go to the store. 229 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: What can I eat that's in my backyard. 230 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: I'll try dandelions. I've always wondered what it tastes like better. 231 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, nice. So I think we said probably a 232 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: couple of times that people have been using dandelions for 233 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: all sorts of reasons, not just as potterbs, for a 234 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: long time. One of the earlier mentions we can find 235 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: was in the Arabic world. A couple of physicians named 236 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: Rozi's and Avicenna both wrote about some of the properties 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: of dandelions and dandelion roots in the tenth and eleventh centuries, 238 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: and most of what they were talking about was its 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: use as a diuretic and medicinally speaking, that's probably the 240 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: most famous property that dandelions have is they make you pee. 241 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: And in fact, there's a couple of names that refer 242 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: to that, depending on where you are for dandelions that 243 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: refer to the fact that they make you pee, right. 244 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 245 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: In France, they're called the apparently more than they're called 246 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: the dentte leone, they're called the pison lit, which means 247 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, pp in the night, and a folk name 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: in England is a pissipad for the same reason. 249 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you. 250 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Know, apparently it's all the potassium in there that's going 251 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: to stimulate your nation and you know. Because of that, 252 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: diuretics are used for a lot of things, and you know, 253 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: medicinally now and historically, if you want to work something 254 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: through your system and pee it out, dandelions is a 255 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: good way to make that happen. 256 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and very famously in the American Midwest they're called 257 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: peepee weeds. Oh, that's totally made up, I. 258 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: Should say, Oh, that's not true either. 259 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: No, I just made it up. 260 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I got you. 261 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: I got you back for the what was the lateral 262 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: gene transfer gospel group that you got me with? 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: Oh, geez, I don't even remember now it was that. 264 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: But I've only gotten you once. The score is Josh 265 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: three thousand. 266 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh man. 267 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: There was a sixteenth century book too. What was the 268 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: name of that one? 269 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: People call it Garden of Health, because the full title 270 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: of it is containing the sundry, rare and hidden virtues 271 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: of all kinds of simples and plants, together with the 272 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: manner of how they are used and applied in medicine 273 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: for the health of man's body against diverse diseases and 274 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: infirmities most common against men. Gathered by the long experience 275 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: and industry of William Langham, practitioner of physic that's the 276 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: actual title of that book, which is why there's like, yeah, 277 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: we're just going to call it Garden of Health. 278 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Garden of Health really says what that says. 279 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: I know, he didn't need all that extra stuff. That's 280 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: like the introduction. I think he put the introduction in 281 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: the title. 282 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a little did it say the end 283 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: at the end pretty much. 284 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: This is from, like I said, the sixteenth century, and 285 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: it talked a lot about, you know, all kinds of 286 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: things they thought it could help back then, toothache, fever's depression, 287 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: even baldness. But they also talked about growing it alongside 288 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: other vegetables and herbs in the garden. And you duck 289 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: up this kind of cool fact. It's ethylene gas that 290 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: they release, So if you actually grow dandelions or have 291 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: dandelions growing near fruiting plants like tomatoes, they're going to 292 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: ripen faster. 293 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that neat super cool? Yeah, we're going to 294 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: cover a lot of actually pretty cool little benefits I 295 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: guess that they provide. But let's keep going with the 296 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: tradition of using them medicinally, shall we. Sure there's a 297 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: guy named John Girard, who wrote a book in the 298 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: sixteen thirties, and he's like, hey, I want to contribute 299 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: to this too. I've found that dandelion strengthens the weak stomach, 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: and which is important because actually, if you use the 301 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: roots of a dandelion, it's a It contains a lot 302 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: of inulin, which is an important prebiotic for gut health. 303 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: So John Gerard wasn't just whistling dixie. 304 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 305 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: It turns out they have more vitamin A than spinach, 306 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: more vitamin C than tomatoes. They've got a ton we 307 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: already mentioned potassium, but also a lot of calcium, a 308 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of iron, and then a lot of words that 309 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: I can barely pronounce that you found that it's packed with, 310 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: starting with flavonoids, that's the only one I had heard of. 311 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: It has triterpenes, sesquiterpenes, phenolic acids, sterols, and cumerants, and 312 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: they bestow things like antibacterial, antioxidant, anti inflammatory, hepatoprotective, and 313 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: anti tumor properties. And you dug up all ways that 314 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,239 Speaker 2: they actually help health. 315 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So I mean we can talk all day 316 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: about like the ways that people thought it would help 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: you back in the sixteenth century, but people might poo 318 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: poo something like that. But there have been modern studies. 319 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: I'll just give you a few examples. There was a 320 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: study from twenty fifteen in Canada that reported that dandelion 321 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: extract can block ultraviolet UVB radiations. Crazy when applied to 322 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: the skin, it can also irritate the skin. So don't 323 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: necessarily just like take dandelions and like start rubbing them 324 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: all over yourself at the pool. There was a tw 325 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen review of studies from a university in Denmark 326 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: that suggests that dandelion extracts actually stimulates pancreatic cells to 327 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: produce insulin, so it could potentially help control blood sugar. Right, 328 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: and what about there was one on the liver too, Right. 329 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it was hypato protective, which means it 330 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: helps deliver And actually it goes in and like just 331 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: kicks butt in your liver. It slows the progression of fibrosis, 332 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: which is scarring of the liver, and the extract actually 333 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: inactivates the cells that cause fibrosis in the liver and 334 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: essentially your liver. As everybody knows, it can regenerate itself 335 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: once the dandelion extract has gone in and stopped the fibrosis, 336 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: the liver can heal, So it's incredibly helpful with protecting 337 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: the liver from damage. I mean, that's nuts. It's almost 338 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: like it was designed to do that. 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: For the liver. 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: It's that effective. 341 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: I do want to mention the cancer one because Emily 342 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: had a very funny, very Emily line. There was a 343 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty man, why do I do that lately? Twenty twelve, 344 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: I did that. 345 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: I did do that a lot. Yeah, what is happening? 346 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. 347 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: It's a study from the University of Windsor in Canada 348 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: about dandelion root extract can induce apoptosis, which is cell 349 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: death in pancreatic and prostate cancer and test tube in 350 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: their cells in the test tubes, potentially preventing their spread. 351 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: So this is something Emily new and this morning she 352 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's so like modern American at the 353 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: very least, to take something that could actually help fight 354 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: cancer and spray chemicals on it to kill it. It 355 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: caused cancer, right, yeah, and she stormed out of the room. 356 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes we have to learn the hard way, but it 357 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: is it is reassuring that things seem to be coming 358 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: full circle, you know what I mean. 359 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like people are getting a little more 360 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: eyes open to stuff like that. 361 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting on board the dandelion train. So one 362 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: thing about those studies that you said, like, they're essentially 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: confirming to our modern tastes what the Chinese knew all 364 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: the way back in six point fifty nine CE, people 365 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: like Nicholas Culpepper knew in the eighteenth century. All these 366 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: people wrote about this stuff and just how effective it was. 367 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: And then now science is going in and saying these 368 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: people were right, and here's how it is effective. I 369 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: think that's pretty cool, and in part because of that, 370 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: the dandelion is being rehabilitated. But first I think we 371 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: need to mention you said that it came by North America. 372 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: I piped up on purpose. I think more than once 373 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: even I was so excited about that. And it's possible 374 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: it was actually on the Mayflower. It arrived that early. 375 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: And they think that because of plant migration, as we 376 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: talked about before, the dandelion may have spread ahead of 377 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: Europeans as they entered further and further into the North 378 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: American continent, and so Native Americans that they encountered may 379 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: have already been using dandelions in some of their medicines. 380 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. They were drinking it in tonics. They 381 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: were boiling it with fatty meats, which sounds disgusting. 382 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: It does it, really, unless you're talking about something like 383 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: collards with like hamhocks or something that sounds okay. But 384 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: in this case, I imagine a pot of boiling water 385 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: with a skin of fat just bubbling at the top 386 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: and some dandelion leaves floating around in it. 387 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about, you know, more ways you can 388 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: eat it, but it's long been used in like cordials 389 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: and beers like the dandelion root. You can you know, 390 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: grind it up and use it as like a coffee substitute, 391 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of like chickory. So you know, people were using 392 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: it for medicine. They were using it for old kinds 393 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: of folk remedies and foods and things, largely because again 394 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: it was everywhere it grows in not very good soil. 395 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: They can it's considered a perennial because they can live 396 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: well because like you said, they're kind of growing year round, 397 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: but they can live for more than ten years, and 398 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: you don't mess with them and kill them. 399 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's pretty cool too. One of 400 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: the other things I saw, there's a book called The 401 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: Economical Housewife from the eighteen fifties that it might be 402 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: the first recipe for dandelion wine, and people still make 403 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: that today, and it's actually super easy. You just take 404 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: some dandelion flowers, some water. Eventually you had some sugar 405 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: and some lemon, let it sit for a couple of weeks, 406 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: strain it out, and then let it sit for another 407 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: week in age, and you've got yourself some dandelion wine. 408 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: And it sounds deliciously easy or maybe easily delicious, one 409 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: of the two. But I'd love to try. Have you 410 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: ever had dandelion wine or dandelion beer or anything like that? 411 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, it's definitely a thing. 412 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: Ray Bradbury had a novel called Dandelion Wine from nineteen 413 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: fifty seven, so it's something that's. 414 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: Been enjoyed all over the world. In France they. 415 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: Use it sometimes they'll take the leaves and blanch them 416 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: and spread them with bread and butter like it sounds 417 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: like if there's not a Brooklyn restaurant serving dandelion toast 418 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: at this point, yeah, then what is happening in. 419 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: Our I don't know. It sounds like fairy toast like 420 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: the Australians love, but with dandelion leaves instead. 421 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also, you know, just a salad, a salad 422 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: green component, and like we said, it is very bitter. 423 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: But it's using all kinds of salads. Sometimes it's the 424 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: only kind of leaf using a salad. Sometimes it can 425 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: be mixed in with other things. But in France they 426 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: have one called the salad de pisson lits from that 427 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: original name, that's got bacon in it and dandelion leaves. 428 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: It just you know, sounds pretty good to me. 429 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently that was a common dish during the depression 430 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: in America too, because it was just cheap, you know. Yeah, 431 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: and it sounds delicious too. I say, we take a 432 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: break and we come back and talk about another surprising 433 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: use of dandelion that I hadn't heard of until this, 434 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: but you probably did because of Emily. 435 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: No. I delighted her with that fact as well, So 436 00:23:41,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: we'll be right back, all right. So Josh said that 437 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: he hadn't heard of this cool fact. I hadn't heard 438 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: of it. Emily hadn't heard of it. And I think 439 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: it may be the fact of the podcast, but dandelions 440 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: are a source of natural rubber. 441 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Pretty cool, I would I would take issue with that. 442 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: I think it has to do with the vortices over 443 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: the pappy or the fact that they're potterbs. All right, 444 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: this one's good. It's up there. Maybe they're all tied 445 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: for first I don't know, but hey. 446 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: That means we've got a good topic if there are several, 447 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: right competitors. 448 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so not just any dandelion produces rubber or 449 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: latex that can be turned into rubber. A specific type 450 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: of dandelion they figured out the Kazakh dandelion, which is 451 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: native to the Eurasian steps. How'd you like that? It's 452 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: also called the Russian dandelion here in the United States. 453 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: That specific one puts out enough latex that it gave 454 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: rubber trees a run for their money. During World War Two, 455 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: which we've talked about many times, America and Britain were like, 456 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: we need more rubber for the war effort, and the 457 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Japanese control essentially all of the rubber supply were at 458 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: war with the Japanese, so we better come up with 459 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: something else quick. 460 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they literally started screening like thousands and thousands 461 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: of plants, and then I guess they're like, hey, if 462 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: the rubber tree can grow rubber, there's got to be 463 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: something else out there. The Soviets are the ones who said, 464 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: try this Kazakh dandelion, and because of shortages during the wars, 465 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: they said, here, here's a bunch of seeds, and they 466 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: sent a bunch of those Kazakh seeds the Soviet allies 467 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: at the time in the nineteen forties, and ultimately we 468 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: use some of it. Russians, Americans and Germans did produce 469 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: rub from dandelions. It's very hearty. It can be susceptible 470 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: to disease, though, depending what kind of disease, but also 471 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: grows everywhere and serves as a pollinator and it doesn't 472 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: deforce things. So the big problem though, and I nowhereone's like, 473 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's just the miracle we've all been 474 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: hoping for with rubber. It just doesn't yield as much 475 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: as the Russian said it did, and so it's not 476 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: economically viable as long as the real rubber tree is around. 477 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: They released some paper that overstated how much rubber can 478 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: be gotten from the dandelion because they wanted to sound 479 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: like big shots. 480 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 481 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: So the reason why we didn't just keep going with 482 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: dandelion rubber research in trying to figure out how to 483 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: increase yields is because in the meantime, people figured out 484 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: we could make synthetic rubber from petroleum. It was almost 485 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: as good as natural rubber, and it certainly was a 486 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: good enough substitute, and we could just make batch after 487 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: batch after batch rather than have to try to yield 488 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: it from dandelion. So that fell to the wayside. And 489 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: then by the time World War two ended, we had 490 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: access to natural rubber supplies from the from the southeast 491 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: Southeast Asia, i should say, and so all that kind 492 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: of put dandelion rubber on the back shelf. But in 493 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: the what eighty almost one hundred years geez, since World 494 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: War Two, I remember when that was like just like 495 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: that was firmly like forty to fifty years in the past, 496 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: and it just keeps getting further and further away. It's 497 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: really awful. But we've kind of figured out in the 498 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: interim that synthetic rubber it's useful, but there's nothing that 499 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: can match natural rubber for like grip, heat, dissipation, all 500 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: sorts of other properties. So we're starting to go back 501 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: to look at sources for natural rubber, including ones that 502 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: are more sustainable than the rubber trees, which require you 503 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: basically DeForest and then plant the rubber trees to create 504 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: a plantation with dandelions. You don't have to do that stuff. 505 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Now you got a big field, you can have dandelions, 506 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: and like I said, it grows and it doesn't have 507 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: to be great soil. You can grow it hydroponically, without 508 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: soil at all. You can grow it in the air, 509 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: which is aeroponically. It's pretty amazing. And I think it's 510 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: one of those things where like anytime you have a 511 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: monoculture plant like that, like the rubber tree, it makes 512 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: people a little bit nervous besides a deporestation, like if 513 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: anything ever happened, like some kind of weird blight, and 514 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the rubber trees were just, you know, not a candidate anymore. 515 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: You got dandelions kind of waiting on deck with their 516 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: bat right. 517 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: So it's kind of surprising that it went from this 518 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: really prized plant in so many ways to a hated weed, 519 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: especially in Europe and the United States. And you hit 520 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: upon why it became a hitted weed. You use the 521 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: word monoculture, and the largest monoculture here in the United 522 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: States are people's lawns. And for part of the etacho 523 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: of the lawn, you cannot have dandelions breaking up that 524 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: perfect unbroken sea of green grass. You got a dandelion 525 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: popping up, the whole thing's ruined. Basically, that's the way 526 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: people think of dandelions and lawns these days, or have 527 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: since about the fifties. 528 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Essentially, that beautiful yellow flower, stop it right, dig it up. 529 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what happened. 530 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: And we've gone over this before, but just sort of 531 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: as a quick overview, this is the kind of thing 532 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: that came over from England. Starting in the seventeenth century 533 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: is when British aristocracy really started to get into these 534 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: perfect sort of croquet croquet playing. 535 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: Lawns, I guess is what you would call them. 536 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: And then in America it was post World War Two 537 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: when suburbanization really took hold, lawnmowers really came into their own. 538 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Everyone was like, hey, we've got these great new chemicals 539 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: that'll kill everything except and make. 540 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: The grass grow really really well. 541 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: And it's it's just modern and tidy and good looking, 542 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: and that really kind of transformed the United States, you know, like, 543 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: keep up that lawn, make a perfect green lawn if 544 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: you want to keep your property value up. 545 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: Anybody a big one. And Kyle also dug up another 546 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: reason too that once the Cold War rolled around, conformity 547 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: was equated with safety. So if you weren't keeping your 548 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: lawn trimmed like everybody else, what's going on with you? 549 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: You're making me feel a little bit nervous because you're 550 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: not conforming. You must be a red spy hiding out 551 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: in suburbia basically, right. And I think that's a really 552 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: important kind of overlooked driver for things like perfectly manicured 553 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: lawns and everybody having the same kind of thing. 554 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of driver, the other I don't think 555 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: we've ever mentioned contributor to this nice was in the 556 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. 557 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Golf started being televised. 558 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty seven, you got golf on television for 559 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: the first time, and people look at Augusta National and 560 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: these golf courses that were beautifully manicured and esthetically pleasing 561 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: to the eye, and they're like, hey, I need to 562 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: get some of that in my front yard. Maybe I 563 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: can practice chipping some balls around in my front yard. 564 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, if you're sitting there thinking like, wow, I 565 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: really love hearing these guys talk about grass, but I'd 566 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: love to hear them have a dispute over it, you 567 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: should go listen to How Our Grass Works episode. It's 568 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: actually a pretty good one. It's a classic stuff you 569 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: should know episode. 570 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: It totally is. 571 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, all that preamble about you know us poopa 572 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: and lawns and why America did that brought us to this, 573 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: which is weeds became enemy number one and dandelions were 574 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: maybe even near the. 575 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: Top of that list. 576 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of reasons why. For all the 577 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: reasons that they're valuable the pollinators and other kinds of plants, 578 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: and that they can grow in marginal lands and basically everywhere, 579 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: is it makes them an enemy as a weed if 580 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: you're trying to create a monoculture lawn, right, so, they 581 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: can regenerate from like a one inch section of root, 582 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: which means that if you cut a dandelion off at 583 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: the even below ground level, it's like good, you know, good, 584 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: try pal, but it just sprouts right back up. You 585 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: have to dig them up, and even after you dig 586 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: them up, you might not get them because one of 587 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: the things that I didn't know about dandelions is I 588 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: knew they grew from a tap root. You have to 589 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: get that tap root up or else it's just feudile. Yeah, 590 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: but that tap root can grow, depending on the age 591 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: of the dandelion, over a dozen feet meters four meters 592 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: into the ground meters. Yeah, and that makes it really 593 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: hard to get rid of. And so if you're like 594 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: a grounds keeper for a golf course or something like that, 595 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: you have to really keep up with the dandelions because 596 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: they'll spread really fast and they're really hard to get 597 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: rid of once you do start trying to get rid 598 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: of them. 599 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 600 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: And I got to say this last fact from Kyle 601 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: because it goes back to the lawns, but this really 602 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of drives at home of about how not great 603 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: a perfect green lawn is for our society. There's a 604 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: study in two thousand and five residential lawns in the 605 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: United States make up two percent of the land but 606 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: require more irrigation than any domestic agricultural crop. 607 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: I've got one to piggyback on that. Let's see The 608 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: US Fish and Wildlife Service says that homeowners use up 609 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: to ten times more pesticides per acre then farmers use 610 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: on their crops. So we're using this stuff over using it, 611 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: and we're using it on stuff that's not productive land, 612 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: just to keep up with the Joneses. So they don't 613 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: think we're communist spies. 614 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I walk Gibson in the mornings and 615 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: there are the only lawns that he ever like rubs 616 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: his face in are the most perfect green ones. And 617 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: I know that it's because they have recently been sprayed 618 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: and he's smell it and it is trying to rub 619 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: all in that stuff, and it drives me bonkers. 620 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a like I would love to just 621 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: let my lawn and you me too, just go to 622 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: like wildflowers, go to weeds, you know, just mow it, 623 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: you keep it mode, but at a higher height. But yeah, 624 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: you just let this stuff grow, and we would be 625 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: completely We would stick out like a sore throam from 626 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: the rest of the neighborhood, so much of their neighbors 627 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: would be mad at us. That's how entrenched the idea 628 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: of having a perfect lawn is still in the United states, 629 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: depending on where you live. 630 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and like no one around there even 631 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: does like permaculture and you know other options besides just 632 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: letting it grow wild and crazy. 633 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: No, it's it's nuts. So we definitely draw a line. 634 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: So we're like, Okay, we'll keep up with the lawn, 635 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: but don't touch the you know, the shrubbery, the perennials, 636 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: the garden essentially, right, But people will hire the same 637 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: company to like treat their lawn with chemicals, to spray 638 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: their bushes and spray their gardens with chemicals to kill 639 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: off the bugs, and then they have to go in 640 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: and try to recreate the stuff that the bugs are 641 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: doing for free, the services they're providing because you've killed 642 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: off the bugs. It's it's insane to me. So we 643 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: definitely don't don't. We don't cot into that. 644 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was speaking of bugs. 645 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: It was a scientific review in twenty nineteen that found 646 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: that the global massive insects is falling at a rate 647 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: of about two and a half percent per year, and 648 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: dandelions is a high high on the list of pollinators. 649 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: Caterpillars love munching on them, moths loves munching on them, 650 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: and all those bees and butterflies love. 651 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: Doing their thing on them. 652 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: So even you know, I'm not trying to shame people, 653 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: but let's say you do like your lawn and everything, 654 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: even waiting in the spring like longer to cut it, 655 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: even cutting it higher, letting the dandelions grow up a 656 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: little bit before you start whacking them down. Then that 657 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: minimal amount will help out a little bit. 658 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: What's interesting is a non chemical way I saw to 659 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: treat your turf grass for dandelions is to let your 660 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: grass grow longer than you have been like cutting it 661 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: at a high or mower height. Yeah, because as we 662 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: talked about, dandelion leaves are so low growing that the 663 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: grass will shade out and out compete the dandelions. So 664 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: if you really do want to get rid of dandelions 665 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: but you don't want to use chemicals, that's a pretty 666 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: good way to do it from what I've seen. 667 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 668 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Some states have actual programs or just one in Minnesota 669 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: called Lawns Two Legumes, which is a great title. They 670 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: launched that in twenty nineteen where they just basically incentive 671 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: incentivized people to say, get rid of that lawn. Put 672 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: in flowering plants, put in beds. You can have a 673 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: rebate if you have a pollinator friendly native wildflower scene 674 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: at your house. 675 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't look up the amount, but I would 676 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: guess at a minimum, the rebate is worth a million dollars, right, 677 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: that'd be my guess, you think. So, there's a couple 678 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: other things that I found that dandelions, I don't know 679 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 2: if you looked at it or not, that they kind 680 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 2: of provide surfaces to the plants growing around them, including grass. Yeah, 681 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: because as we mentioned, those tap roots, they grow really deep, 682 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: and as they're growing deep, they're actually accessing nutrients that 683 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 2: other plants around them, again, including grass, the roots of 684 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: those plants can't reach because it's too deep, and it 685 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: brings those nutrients up towards the surface, and as the 686 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: dandelion dies off, the other plants get to get to 687 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: eat those nutrients that they otherwise wouldn't have had access to. 688 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: And those same roots also airrate in loose and compacted 689 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: dirt too, which makes it easier for the plants around 690 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: the dandelions to grow. 691 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: Amazing. 692 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: Is there anything dandelions can't do? 693 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, they're not super fragrant. 694 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: No, that's true. They're pretty much useless in that. 695 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: But they can grant a child to wish. 696 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 2: They sure can, Man, they sure can. I remember doing 697 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 2: that so many times. I keep trying to do that 698 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: with my dandelion puffhead in Resin and it's not working. 699 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: I don't have anything else, so I'm kind of looking 700 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 3: over the list here. 701 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: I know we were kind of all over the place, 702 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: but it's just sort of one of those episodes where 703 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: it's like, well, here's a list of one hundred amazing things, 704 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: and so sometimes those are a little tougher to organize. 705 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can be pretty fun too. I had 706 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: fun at least. How about you and that rubber thing? 707 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Since neither one of us has anything 708 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: else about dandelions, and we're gonna call it quits on 709 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: this episode, which means we've just activated listener mail. 710 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, no listener mail today, because what we're gonna 711 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: do is something we haven't done in a while, is 712 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: help support and bring some attention to a great cause, 713 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: our friends from the Cooperative for Education aka co ED, 714 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: whose mission it is to break the cycle of poverty 715 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: and Guatemala through education, and we've been working with them 716 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: for fifteen years and we got a new thing coming 717 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: up with them, right. 718 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. So first, let me just explain over 719 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: one point three million dollars and contributions have been made 720 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: to co ED thanks to our partnership with them, that 721 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: stuff you should know for fifteen years. That's that's really 722 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: good if you ask me, that's incredible, which means that 723 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty kids have been given like a 724 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: huge leg up to escape poverty and create like break 725 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: intergenerational poverty and create literally like a new life for 726 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: their entire family from that point on. 727 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: That's right. 728 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: You know, we went down there, I guess fifteen years 729 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: ago when they invited us very early on, and stuff 730 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: you should know is canon, yeah, in our history, And 731 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: we went down to Guatemala and those shows, we did 732 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: some shows on that trip and that visit we get 733 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: to actually hear Jerry speak, which is pretty exciting. Yeah, 734 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: And they're just great that we've been working with them 735 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: ever since. And the fact that the stuff you should 736 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: army has raised one point three million bucks for them 737 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: over the past fifteen years is going to be a 738 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: real proud part of our legacy. But we have a 739 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: call to action, right. 740 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: Yes, so you can joined. We're starting a drive essentially 741 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: right now, that's right. You can join the cooperative, which 742 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: is a program of THEIRS, for twenty dollars a month, 743 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: and you'll collectively sponsor a bunch of students in the 744 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: Rise Youth Development program, right, that's right, And so it's 745 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: going to get spread out. You're going to be helping 746 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of kids at once, so you can feel 747 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: good like five times over with each each monthly donation. 748 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 2: And then in twenty twenty five, more than eleven hundred 749 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: students will be able to start school in World Guatemala, 750 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: which will be their biggest class ever. They need help 751 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 2: to make that happen, which is why we're saying join 752 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: the cooperative. 753 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 3: That's right. 754 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: And as an incentive, if this is for you, if 755 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: you set up your gift by Tuesday, December third, then 756 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: you are signed up for a chance to do a 757 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: virtual hangout with Josh and I. We do this every 758 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: year around the same time. It's always a lot of fun. 759 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: We hang out with I don't know if six or 760 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: eight people all over the country and they get to 761 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: just you know, ask us questions and tell us that 762 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: we're cool or dumb or whatever. It's your chance to 763 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: really hand it to us if that's what you're after, right. 764 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully don't do that, but sure, I mean, I 765 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 2: guess if you've given to co ED and you deserve 766 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: to do whatever. 767 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: You want to us, that's right. 768 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: So just go to Cooperative for Education dot org. That's 769 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: the word cooperative f O R education dot org slash 770 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: s y s k and start giving. 771 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 3: Now. A little bit goes a long way down there. 772 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: Yes, And in the meantime, while you're looking up Cooperative 773 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: for Education dot org slash s y s k, you 774 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: can also send us an email. Send it off to 775 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: stuff Podcasts at iHeartRadio dot com. 776 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. For 777 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 778 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.