WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Defensive Struggle? 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:19.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Life. Are you ready 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.120 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.440 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.840 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:39.120 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.120 It is Thursday, September twenty six, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.880 episode number fifty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.400 We're live from s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.080 we're gonna talk to some Cowboys and Saints. We're getting 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.080 you guys ready for the Sunday night football game this week. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.040 On today, we'll get into the defense. Yesterday we talked 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.200 about the Saints offense. Dave have a breakdown for us 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.800 Before we get into that, though, I do want to 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.160 talk about an injury that popped up yesterday that makes 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.680 me a little bit nervous. Talk to me about a 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.800 Marii Cooper. What's going on with him? Maury Cooper came 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.640 out of the Dolphins game with a dinged up ankle 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.640 foot thing. Is it Jason Garrett? But it is a 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.880 different foot. Okay, so now he's got two feet. He 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.160 got an MRI on it yesterday that was negative, which 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:29.840 is positive. That's always confusing for people, but negative is good. Uh. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.720 We saw him yesterday after the MRI and like he 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.760 wasn't limping or anything. Um again, you know they have 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.200 one here. It makes sense to get that type of 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.880 stuff done. But he was at practice today, so you know, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.240 all these guys are dealing with something, but it doesn't 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.080 look like something that's going to keep him out of 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.200 the game. So he was a practice. It was a practice, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.760 so at least some limited workout, I guess. Yeah. Okay, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.320 So now ask me about the other one. Yeah, that's 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.760 not that's old. That's old news. We got new news. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.760 When did this one happen today? Okay, so tell me 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.880 what happened. Jack Martin's not at practice. Oh my goodness. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.919 So I mean this just happened. I me and Nick 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.160 walked out of practice and walked into the studio. So 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.080 we haven't had a chance to look into it too 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.560 much that Cowboys officials will say, well, he was on 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.079 yesterday's inter report, But the fact that he's not there 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.400 this morning in the morning part that we just saw, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.840 Now does he come in and do some stuff later? Oh, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.720 we'll see. Yeah, that's all we need to really find 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.760 out there. That's he wasn't limited yesterday, Right he was. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.440 He was limited with a back. So here here's the thing. Right, well, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.880 he they upgraded him to full last week, which is 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.639 the first time that's happened since the season started. But 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.400 as we've talked about a million times, playing offensive line 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.160 probably isn't great for your back, especially if it's already hurt. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.920 So we set it a training camp like this is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.480 probably something that Zack Martin is going to be dealing 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.600 with for the entire season. Right. I just took it 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.079 for granted when I saw that yesterday that okay, well, yeah, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.160 of course he's with a back. He's going to be 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.160 limited with a back all year. But it does take 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.959 a whole different level of I guess, significance when he's 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.480 not at practice. We don't know the difference between We 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.000 just haven't had enough time to look into it. We 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.880 don't know the difference between sit down today and let 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.240 that thing cool off a little bit or I can't 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.799 go like those are two different things, and I don't know, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.960 I don't know what it is right now. I always 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.040 lean toward thinking a guy like Zach Martin is going 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.640 to be available. But it's definitely you know, it catches 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.560 like literally today and the you know, we sit in 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.280 the stands in Ford Center for practice, and all the 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.839 beat writers were looking around, like you see seventy where 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.600 seventy's not here. He's not even like just walking around 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.240 in a jersey. He's not here at all. So definitely 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.600 caught some eyebrows. It's something to keep an eye on. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.960 Walk me through what happens in the event do you 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.960 have an next that you're trying to well, what are 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:53.400 we doing? It just answers your question, Well, go ahead, oh, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.640 I'll get it, okay, walking me through what happens in 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.880 the event that Zack can't play well, the Cowboys would 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.440 turn to a xavirus to a few there we go 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.440 and he would start, who are you a memican? Right there? 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.920 Just out of curiosity, just going to sound in about 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.040 twenty years, ok, just just some old white guy that 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.320 that I am. Okay, I guess I just r or 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:19.400 will be huh are or will be both turning turning 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.680 point quickly turning yeah. Xavier sue O Philo did take 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.760 the reps at right guard with the first team in 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.800 Zack's absence. So I think I just think Joe Looney 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:36.120 is just your perfect backup for, you know, just center guard, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.479 anything that happens on game day. But when it comes 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:44.920 to when we saw him playing guard, Looney, you know 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.679 when was that maybe previous or training camp or something. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.560 I know we've seen them put him at that position 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.680 a guard. I don't quite remember how he performed there 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.920 or how that looked like. But do you remember if 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.240 he looked okay, good enough? Yeah? I don't ever remember 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.880 a time when Looney really hasn't looked good or looked okay. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.360 I guess he doesn't, but it doesn't He's not like 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.680 just gonna blow you away, but he's but he's good enough. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.160 Do you think better than Sophila. I think Sophila is 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.120 better because I think he's got that old man's strength, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.960 even though he's not old. I just think he's got 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.960 that strength. That's I think he may be better than Connor, honestly, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.839 but they didn't draft him in the second round, so 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.560 he was better last year. But of course Connor was 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.120 a rookie. But you know, I think that's a really good. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.680 He has strength, but he's also dealing He's constantly dealing 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.880 with things on his knees, both knees. That is sophilo. Yeah, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.200 and that that is something that he's been battling since 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.359 last year. And I know that waits on him and 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.320 he's been working on it with his training, strength coach 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.799 and stuff. But it's something to look at too. While 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.640 he might be able to play a full game and 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:59.240 all that, it's not necessarily a long term replacement that 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.599 he could hold maybe two games in a road, three 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.919 games type of stuff. I don't know if there's a 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.080 position in football that beats the hell out of you 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.280 more than anything. On the offensive line, Yeah, it's just 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:15.560 brutal because you're you're constantly catching even running backs like yeah, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.839 you get hit pretty much every time you touch the ball, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.120 But you don't touch the ball every snap of the game. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.400 Offensive lineman like you every play except maybe the victory formation, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.960 you're getting someone's coming to hit you every play. Like 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.480 they're coming hit you every single play. Yeah, I would 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.440 be worried if if he doesn't, if he's listened as 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.839 did not practice today, then I think that's kind of 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.760 a concern. If he's listed as limited, then then I 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.440 wouldn't be as concern because we're dealing with the back. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.080 So if he is, if he's really having a lot 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.760 of pain, it's better to just sit him out, you know, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.960 because if you have a back, you can hurt that 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.440 picking up, you know, a piece of paper. So I 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.200 just feel like if they really wanted to rest him, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.720 they would just rest him, he'd be at home. But 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.800 if he's limited, then I think they're just trying to 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.760 man It's I will say though, typically, like when a 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.680 guy takes a scheduled day off it's Wednesday or Friday, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.560 like because it's either the first day of the week 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.480 and you're like sit this out and then get two 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.360 days of practice, or get two days of practice and 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.680 then rest your legs on Friday. Like they've done that 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.960 with Sean Lee this season, where he just doesn't go 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.960 on Friday. It's not injury related, they just let him 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.000 sit us. It feels weird to me for him to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.360 sit in between Wednesday and Friday. So we'll see. And 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.080 let's be clear too, we were only out you guys 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.560 were only out there during the opening parts of practice. Yeah, 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.840 it's very possible that he was getting some treatment or 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.440 something like that, and then came out and was a 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.560 part of practice, in the part that well that the 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.080 media doesn't see. Keep it, keep it tuned to Dallas 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.960 Cowboys dot com media channels because they're well, we'll get 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.200 some info about this later today and tomorrow, and yeah, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.600 something to watch. You gotta have something today, get work. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.160 I came back. I don't I saw him in the 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.400 locker room yesterday, and I remember kind of thinking like, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.360 he looks stiff, like just kind of like he looks 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.880 like he's felt better in his life. Which I say 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.680 that now now that I know he's HERB, but I 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.040 do really remember like he came out of the shower 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.119 area and I was like, you, like, as somebody who's 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.920 experienced back pain, you look like you're feeling kind of 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.320 stiff right now. So I don't know, we'll see, all right. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.720 A couple other guys, I just want to mention real fast, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.720 Xavier Woods, Tavon Austin returned to practice yesterday. What are 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.560 we hearing about them and how they performed and look 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.600 after a day of practice, I was at practice for 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.559 a little bit and was I guess just looking around 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.240 at whatever, like oh, I should probably look at some 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.640 injured guys. Here. Who am I looking for? And I 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.000 looked at it right at Xavier Woods, like there he is, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.520 and he was catching this interception and then he was 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.680 doing some spinning and dancing and it wasn't dancing, but 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.760 he was like doing like a spin like juke move 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.599 like you would do like the R two button. Like. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.040 He just kept spinning and spinning and spinning. I'm like, Okay, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.120 he's playing. He saw that the Marcus Lawrence video. I 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.679 don't know that the Marcus doing the spin, and then 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.640 everybody was talking about it. He got in no, he's 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.080 trying to spin all that. He was doing something like that, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.000 and I'm just I was just like, okay, hey, Woods 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.800 is playing. Xavier's in He's in Who's the Kiss of Death? Though? 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.640 Because last year you said that about Tavon and what happened. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.679 Tavon kept sitting out and just dancing every week and 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:18.160 still couldn't play. Yeah, but I think Xavier, Um, I 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.600 think Xavier's going to play. I think you think you're 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.280 thinking very carefully what you Xavi's going to play. Two 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.400 straight days of practice for Tavan and Xavier. That's always 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.640 a good sign No, uh no, Tyrone Crawford today, No, 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.320 Antoine Woods. I don't think you're gonna see them this weekend. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.680 You're not gonna see Michael Gallup this weekend. Those are three, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.600 I guess at this point the injuries that you just say, 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.200 and they're probably pretty likely they're not playing this week. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.640 Only three, right, Um, there was somebody else that I 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.679 wanted to bring up, Um, maybe TV I got, No, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.720 I get Yeah, I guess that's it. Those Oh yeah 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.439 Woods in Crawford, that's it. Yeah, because Gifford. Gifford's back 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.120 practicing now, so he wouldn't have be one of them. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.840 Maybe won't be active, but at least he'll be He 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.640 should be bad. Doesn't look like he was going to 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:04.080 be act just based off of a special teams unit 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.559 that he would probably be out there for if he was, so, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.280 I don't think he will be this week. All right, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.600 let's go and take an early break. When we come back, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.720 we're going to get into the Saints and their defense. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.679 Dave's gonna give us his breakdown. We'll talk about that 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.520 when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:22.680 Com Radio. Well, a player could look good on paper, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.959 it's one he's out on the field that you really 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.080 find out what he's made of. That's why the Cowboys 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.160 rely on more than just stats and scouting reports when 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.520 building their team. 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Saints fans coming 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.640 by on this tour No, those were cowboys Jersey guys. Yeah, 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:38.440 that was it was. It was cowboys. I have the 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.440 same reaction earlier this week. I was saw somebody walking 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.920 in the parking lot, a fan and they had on jersey. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.080 Was one of those, and I thought Saints really and 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.680 then no, it's cowboys, Steam They'll take your money whatever. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.360 Here's the Redskins. Oh oh yeah, come on, it happens 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.439 every day. No, there were there were some believe it 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.280 or not, there was some Dolphins fans taking the tour 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.240 last week last Friday, so believe it or not that 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.520 they Dolphin there are friends. Yeah, all right, Dave, what 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.720 you got for us? Let's talk about this Saints defense. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.320 I got the New Orleans Saints in front of me. Um, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.920 a lot of a lot of talent, not a lot 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.400 of production to this point in the season. When you 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.080 say that, people just jump in and say something real quick. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.920 Do it? They got the best names in all of 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:26.079 like the whole NFL, do they? Well? Starting with Little Jordan. No, no, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:31.760 it's not Little Jordan's offense. I know, but I'm just like, well, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:37.079 they're defense though, Ray, Ray Armstrong, right, Huddle, jan Eli 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.839 Apple and then of course Kiko Alonzo. Yeah, it's better 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.800 known as Yeah, been around, been around, all right, a 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.240 little bit, go ahead, all right, Dave give us his defense. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:54.400 Thatt's willing. Uh. It's like and I think he's still 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.640 a good player. But like, the thing about the Saints 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.199 is defensive resurgence. I guess it was twenty seventeen when 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.040 they lost the Minnesota Miracle game, was like, how well 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.920 their young dbs were playing, Like Marshawn Lattimore is this 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:13.960 lockdown corner, Marcus Williams is a revelation at safety. Von 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.439 Bell is another guy that they drafted that they really 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.000 like and they played they were ballers like they were 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.800 really good that year. Marshawn Latimore had the butt interception 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.640 if you remember that where you picked the ball up 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:29.880 off the guy's butt and it's it's not translating, like 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.960 it's not there. So far this year case in point, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.960 they gave up five passes of twenty yards or more 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.720 and three of forty yards or more to the Seahawks 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.600 the other week. They're the worst in the league at 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.080 the stat end, by the way, same thing with the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.600 rushing they gave up twenty plus. They've given up five 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.720 twenty plus rushes and that's the worst in the league. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.160 I will say, Okay, so they're twenty eighth, and total 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.840 defense their thirtieth against the past three hundred yards a game. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.280 They're twenty sixth against the run. The six points twenty 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.600 seven points per game every single team they've played. Actually 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.080 they've given up like exactly twenty seven across the board, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.360 because I think they beat the Texans like twenty thirty 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.120 to twenty eight. I think Rams beat him twenty seven nine, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.880 and then thirty three twenty seven Seahawks, so like you 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.160 can score on him. Dennis Allen, it seems like he 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.960 asks these guys to play a lot of man defense, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.360 which is awesome if you can do it. They haven't 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.520 been able to do it, and it's really come everywhere. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.560 Like Lattimore gave up a couple of explosives, David Moore 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.160 caught a jump ball on him last week. Eli Apple's 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.120 the obvious one that like you want to pick on, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.240 like he gets torched on a pretty routine basis. And 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.000 one thing that was really intriguing to me is that 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.800 a lot of these plays happened when Russell Wilson, you know, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.240 Shocker of Shockers, was able to extend the play, which 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.200 you know if you watch the Cowboys, like Dack's not 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.320 as good at that as Russell Wilson is, but he 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.520 can definitely only do it. He did it last week 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:05.359 against the Dolphins a few times, So that is really encouraging. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.440 If the Saints are going to try to play man 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:12.120 up with these guys that, I think you can manufacture 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.760 some plays. And another really exciting thing is they like 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.160 they lose track of guys, like the Seahawks will put 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.040 their receivers in a bunch and Tyler Lockett is just 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.640 running across the formation and there's crossing routes and all 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.440 of a sudden, like the corner, you know, Eli Apple's 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.040 five yards behind him, like where was my help? Is 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.920 this my guy? And forty five yard game? That type 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.560 of stuff. So I think Kellen Moore should be able 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:41.720 to manufacture some games in this thing. I don't think 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.720 they look terrible against the run itself, Like the Seahawks 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.840 ran for one hundred yards, but fifty of that was 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.840 Russell Wilson scrambling or designed runs, which Dad can do 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.760 that too. That maybe there's something to be said. But 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.240 like Chris Carson and CJ. Prosie didn't like kill them 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.400 like they have good They have good players in their seven. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.200 Cam Jordan, I think I already said I think he's 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.320 one of the most underrated players in the league. He 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.399 reminds me a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence, just in the 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.639 sense of being super well rounded. He can rush the passer, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:15.000 he's stout against the run. Marcus Davenport's coming along. These 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.920 are team and sex. Yeah, yeah, I mean which that 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.320 they're not getting The quarterback is, you know again a 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.840 lot like Dallas Um. Your guy Malcolm Brown is playing 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.240 tackle for them right now because Sheldon Rankins is hurt. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.640 Like they have talent there, demaro O'Davis really good will 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.960 linebacker captain for them. So I don't like, I don't 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.439 think they're soft. I don't. I think they're better than 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.560 the stats indicate they are. Put it that way because 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.639 the stats say is. As I started looking at the stats, 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.520 I was like, Wow, this defense is not playing very 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.199 well at all. You gotta you gotta look at the 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.480 other games to the Texans ran the ball really well 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.119 on them, But again they have a supermobile quarterback in 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.600 Deshaun Watson who can inflate that. And I dak Can too. Yeah, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.320 they got cowboys would have to implement that. Though we've 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.040 seen him do it, we've seen him not do it. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.840 But in turn, like I would be surprised if Zeke 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.639 just bulldozes this defense all on his own, Like, I 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.159 don't know that that's gonna work, but they're very susceptible 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.639 against the pass yep. I had a couple questions for you, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.840 Eli Apple. He seems to be the weak link I 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.720 keep hearing everybody talk about in their secondary. If you 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.919 agree with that, how does Dallas take advantage of that? 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.920 I think Dallas takes advantage of that by make make 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.800 the Saints change it, because as good as they might 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.800 want Marshawn Lattimore to be, he doesn't travel a lot. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.520 And I'm starting to think that like every week it's 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.960 like is he gonna travel? It's he gonna like It 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.720 doesn't seem like it happens that often in the NFL. Honestly, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.679 like maybe in college if you have that guy and 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.760 you know he can just take away that receiver, do it, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.040 but you don't see it a lot in the NFL, 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.879 and Lattimore hasn't done it. He plays on the right 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.480 side with very little exceptions. Actually against Seattle, they had 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.680 him travel with Lockett on a third down and Seattle 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.359 tried to throw it to him to pick up the 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.199 first and Lattimore came across the formation and tackled him 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.040 in the backfield. I was like, maybe you should be 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.600 doing this more often, but they don't. So put the 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.320 good receivers on. Eli Apple say, all right, Latimore is 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.920 over on the right, Well, Amari, we want you over 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.200 on the left because I don't I mean, I would 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.960 force Dennis Allen to try to make that happen because 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.600 it doesn't seem like they want to do it. And 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.520 you know, last week with Xavier and Howard, who is 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.879 probably better than Lattimore or at least you know, right 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.080 up there, and it didn't seem to matter. You know, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.240 Cooper kind of exposed him as well. So I mean, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.560 I think I don't know if there's any corners right 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.359 now that are really just checking Amari. We'll see what 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.600 his injury status is. But you know, we always say 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.680 this about guys that travel. It's not just the corner 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.840 It's not just the great cornerback that travels. It's the 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.480 other cornerback that has to travel as well. So yeah, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.000 the star star guy might go. He might be good 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.280 on the right or the left, but the back, your 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.560 your second corner may not be as good playing both sides, 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.200 and he has to travel as well. So I think 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.200 that's something we you know, it helps if you've got 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.479 two that can be versatile. I really wish Michael Gallup 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.920 was healthy for this game because I think the combination 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.280 of Lattimore and the fact that the guys behind Cooper 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.480 aren't as good like it gives me pause. I still 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.439 I think the Cowboys will be all right, but like 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.959 if Gallop was playing in this game, I would be like, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.520 the Cowboys are gonna eat like because they can do 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.760 whatever they want with Cooper. Gallop will abuse whoever is 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.080 over there. And I'm not as confident in Devin Smith 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.320 and Randall Cobb. I still think I think they'll be okay, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.600 but like, it would be nice if Gallup was playing. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.960 Take me back to last year and talk to me 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.760 about what and when the Cowboys played the Saints. What 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.040 did you see in the Cowboys offensive line versus the 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:49.320