1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Life. Are you ready 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September twenty six, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: episode number fifty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: We're live from s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to some Cowboys and Saints. We're getting 11 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: you guys ready for the Sunday night football game this week. 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: On today, we'll get into the defense. Yesterday we talked 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: about the Saints offense. Dave have a breakdown for us 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Before we get into that, though, I do want to 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: talk about an injury that popped up yesterday that makes 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: me a little bit nervous. Talk to me about a 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Marii Cooper. What's going on with him? Maury Cooper came 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: out of the Dolphins game with a dinged up ankle 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: foot thing. Is it Jason Garrett? But it is a 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: different foot. Okay, so now he's got two feet. He 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: got an MRI on it yesterday that was negative, which 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: is positive. That's always confusing for people, but negative is good. Uh. 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: We saw him yesterday after the MRI and like he 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: wasn't limping or anything. Um again, you know they have 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: one here. It makes sense to get that type of 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: stuff done. But he was at practice today, so you know, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: all these guys are dealing with something, but it doesn't 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: look like something that's going to keep him out of 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: the game. So he was a practice. It was a practice, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: so at least some limited workout, I guess. Yeah. Okay, 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: So now ask me about the other one. Yeah, that's 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: not that's old. That's old news. We got new news. 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: When did this one happen today? Okay, so tell me 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: what happened. Jack Martin's not at practice. Oh my goodness. 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: So I mean this just happened. I me and Nick 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: walked out of practice and walked into the studio. So 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to look into it too 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: much that Cowboys officials will say, well, he was on 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: yesterday's inter report, But the fact that he's not there 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: this morning in the morning part that we just saw, 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Now does he come in and do some stuff later? Oh, 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, that's all we need to really find 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: out there. That's he wasn't limited yesterday, Right he was. 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: He was limited with a back. So here here's the thing. Right, well, 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: he they upgraded him to full last week, which is 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the first time that's happened since the season started. But 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: as we've talked about a million times, playing offensive line 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: probably isn't great for your back, especially if it's already hurt. 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: So we set it a training camp like this is 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: probably something that Zack Martin is going to be dealing 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: with for the entire season. Right. I just took it 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: for granted when I saw that yesterday that okay, well, yeah, 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: of course he's with a back. He's going to be 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: limited with a back all year. But it does take 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: a whole different level of I guess, significance when he's 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: not at practice. We don't know the difference between We 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: just haven't had enough time to look into it. We 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: don't know the difference between sit down today and let 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: that thing cool off a little bit or I can't 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: go like those are two different things, and I don't know, 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is right now. I always 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: lean toward thinking a guy like Zach Martin is going 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to be available. But it's definitely you know, it catches 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: like literally today and the you know, we sit in 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: the stands in Ford Center for practice, and all the 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: beat writers were looking around, like you see seventy where 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: seventy's not here. He's not even like just walking around 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: in a jersey. He's not here at all. So definitely 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: caught some eyebrows. It's something to keep an eye on. 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Walk me through what happens in the event do you 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: have an next that you're trying to well, what are 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: we doing? It just answers your question, Well, go ahead, oh, 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: I'll get it, okay, walking me through what happens in 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: the event that Zack can't play well, the Cowboys would 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: turn to a xavirus to a few there we go 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: and he would start, who are you a memican? Right there? 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, just going to sound in about 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: twenty years, ok, just just some old white guy that 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: that I am. Okay, I guess I just r or 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: will be huh are or will be both turning turning 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: point quickly turning yeah. Xavier sue O Philo did take 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the reps at right guard with the first team in 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Zack's absence. So I think I just think Joe Looney 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: is just your perfect backup for, you know, just center guard, 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: anything that happens on game day. But when it comes 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: to when we saw him playing guard, Looney, you know 87 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: when was that maybe previous or training camp or something. 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I know we've seen them put him at that position 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: a guard. I don't quite remember how he performed there 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: or how that looked like. But do you remember if 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: he looked okay, good enough? Yeah? I don't ever remember 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: a time when Looney really hasn't looked good or looked okay. 93 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't, but it doesn't He's not like 94 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: just gonna blow you away, but he's but he's good enough. 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Do you think better than Sophila. I think Sophila is 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: better because I think he's got that old man's strength, 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: even though he's not old. I just think he's got 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: that strength. That's I think he may be better than Connor, honestly, 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: but they didn't draft him in the second round, so 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: he was better last year. But of course Connor was 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: a rookie. But you know, I think that's a really good. 102 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: He has strength, but he's also dealing He's constantly dealing 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: with things on his knees, both knees. That is sophilo. Yeah, 104 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: and that that is something that he's been battling since 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: last year. And I know that waits on him and 106 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: he's been working on it with his training, strength coach 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: and stuff. But it's something to look at too. While 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: he might be able to play a full game and 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: all that, it's not necessarily a long term replacement that 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: he could hold maybe two games in a road, three 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: games type of stuff. I don't know if there's a 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: position in football that beats the hell out of you 113 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: more than anything. On the offensive line, Yeah, it's just 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: brutal because you're you're constantly catching even running backs like yeah, 115 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you get hit pretty much every time you touch the ball, 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: But you don't touch the ball every snap of the game. 117 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Offensive lineman like you every play except maybe the victory formation, 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: you're getting someone's coming to hit you every play. Like 119 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: they're coming hit you every single play. Yeah, I would 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: be worried if if he doesn't, if he's listened as 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: did not practice today, then I think that's kind of 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: a concern. If he's listed as limited, then then I 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be as concern because we're dealing with the back. 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: So if he is, if he's really having a lot 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: of pain, it's better to just sit him out, you know, 126 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: because if you have a back, you can hurt that 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: picking up, you know, a piece of paper. So I 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: just feel like if they really wanted to rest him, 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: they would just rest him, he'd be at home. But 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: if he's limited, then I think they're just trying to 131 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: man It's I will say though, typically, like when a 132 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: guy takes a scheduled day off it's Wednesday or Friday, 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: like because it's either the first day of the week 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and you're like sit this out and then get two 135 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: days of practice, or get two days of practice and 136 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: then rest your legs on Friday. Like they've done that 137 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: with Sean Lee this season, where he just doesn't go 138 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: on Friday. It's not injury related, they just let him 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: sit us. It feels weird to me for him to 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: sit in between Wednesday and Friday. So we'll see. And 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: let's be clear too, we were only out you guys 142 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: were only out there during the opening parts of practice. Yeah, 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: it's very possible that he was getting some treatment or 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: something like that, and then came out and was a 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: part of practice, in the part that well that the 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: media doesn't see. Keep it, keep it tuned to Dallas 147 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com media channels because they're well, we'll get 148 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: some info about this later today and tomorrow, and yeah, 149 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: something to watch. You gotta have something today, get work. 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I came back. I don't I saw him in the 151 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: locker room yesterday, and I remember kind of thinking like, 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: he looks stiff, like just kind of like he looks 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: like he's felt better in his life. Which I say 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: that now now that I know he's HERB, but I 155 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: do really remember like he came out of the shower 156 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: area and I was like, you, like, as somebody who's 157 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: experienced back pain, you look like you're feeling kind of 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: stiff right now. So I don't know, we'll see, all right. 159 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: A couple other guys, I just want to mention real fast, 160 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, Tavon Austin returned to practice yesterday. What are 161 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: we hearing about them and how they performed and look 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: after a day of practice, I was at practice for 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: a little bit and was I guess just looking around 164 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: at whatever, like oh, I should probably look at some 165 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: injured guys. Here. Who am I looking for? And I 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: looked at it right at Xavier Woods, like there he is, 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: and he was catching this interception and then he was 168 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: doing some spinning and dancing and it wasn't dancing, but 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: he was like doing like a spin like juke move 170 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: like you would do like the R two button. Like. 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: He just kept spinning and spinning and spinning. I'm like, Okay, 172 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: he's playing. He saw that the Marcus Lawrence video. I 173 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: don't know that the Marcus doing the spin, and then 174 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: everybody was talking about it. He got in no, he's 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: trying to spin all that. He was doing something like that, 176 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just I was just like, okay, hey, Woods 177 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: is playing. Xavier's in He's in Who's the Kiss of Death? Though? 178 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Because last year you said that about Tavon and what happened. 179 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: Tavon kept sitting out and just dancing every week and 180 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: still couldn't play. Yeah, but I think Xavier, Um, I 181 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: think Xavier's going to play. I think you think you're 182 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: thinking very carefully what you Xavi's going to play. Two 183 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: straight days of practice for Tavan and Xavier. That's always 184 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: a good sign No, uh no, Tyrone Crawford today, No, 185 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods. I don't think you're gonna see them this weekend. 186 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: You're not gonna see Michael Gallup this weekend. Those are three, 187 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I guess at this point the injuries that you just say, 188 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: and they're probably pretty likely they're not playing this week. 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Only three, right, Um, there was somebody else that I 190 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up, Um, maybe TV I got, No, 191 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: I get Yeah, I guess that's it. Those Oh yeah 192 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: Woods in Crawford, that's it. Yeah, because Gifford. Gifford's back 193 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: practicing now, so he wouldn't have be one of them. 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Maybe won't be active, but at least he'll be He 195 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: should be bad. Doesn't look like he was going to 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: be act just based off of a special teams unit 197 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: that he would probably be out there for if he was, so, 198 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he will be this week. All right, 199 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: let's go and take an early break. When we come back, 200 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: we're going to get into the Saints and their defense. 201 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Dave's gonna give us his breakdown. We'll talk about that 202 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: when we come right back. 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Let's jump right in. 241 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: Let's get into this Saints defense days. Saints fans coming 242 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: by on this tour No, those were cowboys Jersey guys. Yeah, 243 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: that was it was. It was cowboys. I have the 244 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: same reaction earlier this week. I was saw somebody walking 245 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: in the parking lot, a fan and they had on jersey. 246 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Was one of those, and I thought Saints really and 247 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: then no, it's cowboys, Steam They'll take your money whatever. 248 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Here's the Redskins. Oh oh yeah, come on, it happens 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: every day. No, there were there were some believe it 250 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: or not, there was some Dolphins fans taking the tour 251 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: last week last Friday, so believe it or not that 252 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: they Dolphin there are friends. Yeah, all right, Dave, what 253 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: you got for us? Let's talk about this Saints defense. 254 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: I got the New Orleans Saints in front of me. Um, 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talent, not a lot 256 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: of production to this point in the season. When you 257 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: say that, people just jump in and say something real quick. 258 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Do it? They got the best names in all of 259 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: like the whole NFL, do they? Well? Starting with Little Jordan. No, no, 260 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: it's not Little Jordan's offense. I know, but I'm just like, well, 261 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: they're defense though, Ray, Ray Armstrong, right, Huddle, jan Eli 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: Apple and then of course Kiko Alonzo. Yeah, it's better 263 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: known as Yeah, been around, been around, all right, a 264 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: little bit, go ahead, all right, Dave give us his defense. 265 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Thatt's willing. Uh. It's like and I think he's still 266 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: a good player. But like, the thing about the Saints 267 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: is defensive resurgence. I guess it was twenty seventeen when 268 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: they lost the Minnesota Miracle game, was like, how well 269 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: their young dbs were playing, Like Marshawn Lattimore is this 270 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: lockdown corner, Marcus Williams is a revelation at safety. Von 271 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Bell is another guy that they drafted that they really 272 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: like and they played they were ballers like they were 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: really good that year. Marshawn Latimore had the butt interception 274 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: if you remember that where you picked the ball up 275 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: off the guy's butt and it's it's not translating, like 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: it's not there. So far this year case in point, 277 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: they gave up five passes of twenty yards or more 278 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: and three of forty yards or more to the Seahawks 279 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: the other week. They're the worst in the league at 280 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: the stat end, by the way, same thing with the 281 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: rushing they gave up twenty plus. They've given up five 282 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: twenty plus rushes and that's the worst in the league. 283 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I will say, Okay, so they're twenty eighth, and total 284 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: defense their thirtieth against the past three hundred yards a game. 285 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: They're twenty sixth against the run. The six points twenty 286 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: seven points per game every single team they've played. Actually 287 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: they've given up like exactly twenty seven across the board, 288 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: because I think they beat the Texans like twenty thirty 289 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: to twenty eight. I think Rams beat him twenty seven nine, 290 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: and then thirty three twenty seven Seahawks, so like you 291 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: can score on him. Dennis Allen, it seems like he 292 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: asks these guys to play a lot of man defense, 293 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: which is awesome if you can do it. They haven't 294 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: been able to do it, and it's really come everywhere. 295 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Like Lattimore gave up a couple of explosives, David Moore 296 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: caught a jump ball on him last week. Eli Apple's 297 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: the obvious one that like you want to pick on, 298 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: like he gets torched on a pretty routine basis. And 299 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: one thing that was really intriguing to me is that 300 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these plays happened when Russell Wilson, you know, 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Shocker of Shockers, was able to extend the play, which 302 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: you know if you watch the Cowboys, like Dack's not 303 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: as good at that as Russell Wilson is, but he 304 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: can definitely only do it. He did it last week 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,359 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins a few times, So that is really encouraging. 306 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: If the Saints are going to try to play man 307 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: up with these guys that, I think you can manufacture 308 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: some plays. And another really exciting thing is they like 309 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: they lose track of guys, like the Seahawks will put 310 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: their receivers in a bunch and Tyler Lockett is just 311 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: running across the formation and there's crossing routes and all 312 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like the corner, you know, Eli Apple's 313 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: five yards behind him, like where was my help? Is 314 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: this my guy? And forty five yard game? That type 315 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: of stuff. So I think Kellen Moore should be able 316 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: to manufacture some games in this thing. I don't think 317 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: they look terrible against the run itself, Like the Seahawks 318 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: ran for one hundred yards, but fifty of that was 319 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson scrambling or designed runs, which Dad can do 320 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: that too. That maybe there's something to be said. But 321 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: like Chris Carson and CJ. Prosie didn't like kill them 322 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: like they have good They have good players in their seven. 323 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, I think I already said I think he's 324 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated players in the league. He 325 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence, just in the 326 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: sense of being super well rounded. He can rush the passer, 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: he's stout against the run. Marcus Davenport's coming along. These 328 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: are team and sex. Yeah, yeah, I mean which that 329 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: they're not getting The quarterback is, you know again a 330 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: lot like Dallas Um. Your guy Malcolm Brown is playing 331 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: tackle for them right now because Sheldon Rankins is hurt. 332 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: Like they have talent there, demaro O'Davis really good will 333 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: linebacker captain for them. So I don't like, I don't 334 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: think they're soft. I don't. I think they're better than 335 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the stats indicate they are. Put it that way because 336 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: the stats say is. As I started looking at the stats, 337 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this defense is not playing very 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: well at all. You gotta you gotta look at the 339 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: other games to the Texans ran the ball really well 340 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: on them, But again they have a supermobile quarterback in 341 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson who can inflate that. And I dak Can too. Yeah, 342 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: they got cowboys would have to implement that. Though we've 343 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: seen him do it, we've seen him not do it. 344 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: But in turn, like I would be surprised if Zeke 345 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: just bulldozes this defense all on his own, Like, I 346 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: don't know that that's gonna work, but they're very susceptible 347 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: against the pass yep. I had a couple questions for you, 348 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Eli Apple. He seems to be the weak link I 349 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: keep hearing everybody talk about in their secondary. If you 350 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: agree with that, how does Dallas take advantage of that? 351 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: I think Dallas takes advantage of that by make make 352 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: the Saints change it, because as good as they might 353 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: want Marshawn Lattimore to be, he doesn't travel a lot. 354 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: And I'm starting to think that like every week it's 355 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: like is he gonna travel? It's he gonna like It 356 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it happens that often in the NFL. Honestly, 357 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: like maybe in college if you have that guy and 358 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: you know he can just take away that receiver, do it, 359 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: but you don't see it a lot in the NFL, 360 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: and Lattimore hasn't done it. He plays on the right 361 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: side with very little exceptions. Actually against Seattle, they had 362 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: him travel with Lockett on a third down and Seattle 363 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: tried to throw it to him to pick up the 364 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: first and Lattimore came across the formation and tackled him 365 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: in the backfield. I was like, maybe you should be 366 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: doing this more often, but they don't. So put the 367 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: good receivers on. Eli Apple say, all right, Latimore is 368 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: over on the right, Well, Amari, we want you over 369 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: on the left because I don't I mean, I would 370 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: force Dennis Allen to try to make that happen because 371 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they want to do it. And 372 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, last week with Xavier and Howard, who is 373 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: probably better than Lattimore or at least you know, right 374 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: up there, and it didn't seem to matter. You know, 375 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Cooper kind of exposed him as well. So I mean, 376 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: I think I don't know if there's any corners right 377 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: now that are really just checking Amari. We'll see what 378 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: his injury status is. But you know, we always say 379 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: this about guys that travel. It's not just the corner 380 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not just the great cornerback that travels. It's the 381 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: other cornerback that has to travel as well. So yeah, 382 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: the star star guy might go. He might be good 383 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: on the right or the left, but the back, your 384 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: your second corner may not be as good playing both sides, 385 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: and he has to travel as well. So I think 386 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: that's something we you know, it helps if you've got 387 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: two that can be versatile. I really wish Michael Gallup 388 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: was healthy for this game because I think the combination 389 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: of Lattimore and the fact that the guys behind Cooper 390 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: aren't as good like it gives me pause. I still 391 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys will be all right, but like 392 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: if Gallop was playing in this game, I would be like, 393 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna eat like because they can do 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: whatever they want with Cooper. Gallop will abuse whoever is 395 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: over there. And I'm not as confident in Devin Smith 396 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb. I still think I think they'll be okay, 397 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: but like, it would be nice if Gallup was playing. 398 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Take me back to last year and talk to me 399 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: about what and when the Cowboys played the Saints. What 400 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: did you see in the Cowboys offensive line versus the 401 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: Saints defensive front. It was a struggle. I mean the defense. 402 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: The Saints defense did a really nice job. If I 403 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: remember they bottled up Zeke pretty nicely. I don't remember 404 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: him having like just like thirty yards. I would imagine 405 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: it was like seventy eighty. Maybe he had a hard 406 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: fought I'm pulling it up for you. He had a 407 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: hard fought seventy five yards. He averaged three point three 408 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: yards per carry. Yeah, that's not anywhere near his typical 409 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: no day. But you know, they kept they kept doing it. 410 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: And you know, we always say those games kind of 411 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: take on a life of their own, and both both 412 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: offenses were struggling and it was just that type of game. 413 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: This might be completely opposite of that, but they did. 414 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: They did a nice job. But if I remember, you know, 415 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith, he matters, he wasn't in that game, didn't 416 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: play that game, and Travis obviously didn't play, which we 417 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: got to wait and see on Zach, But you would 418 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: think the line will be closer to full strength than 419 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: it was last year. Who was the defensive player that 420 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: seemed to give him the most trouble If you guys 421 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: remember I can't cam Jordan had two sacks and two 422 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: and a half tackles for loss. Actually Brian wrote about 423 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: this for the site Today is again Jordan's like the Law. 424 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: He plays the left side. He doesn't do a lot 425 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: of rotating, but they moved him to the right side 426 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to play Fleming because Lyle Collins was giving him fits. 427 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: So he had a great day. But I like that 428 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: matchup a lot better this time around. He doesn't move 429 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: this time, probably not. If I had to guess Damario Davis, 430 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say that Demario Davis had eleven tackles. 431 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was like a good eleven 432 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: tackles or a bat eleven tackles. I mean, the final 433 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: score does suggest that obviously both defenses played extremely well 434 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: last time. I will one thing I noticed, and again, 435 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, mobile quarterback play action. I would like to 436 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: think Dallas can take advantage of this. I was not 437 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: impressed by Kiko. And then they got another linebacker when 438 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: they played bass by the name of A. J. Klein, 439 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: who did not wow me like I found he seemed 440 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: like he was out of position a lot. There are 441 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: a couple I don't know off the top of my head. Sorry, 442 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: actually have it here, AJ Klein. I was I, okay, wow, 443 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: there's Buckeyes all over this matchup. Um no, I'm sorry. 444 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: I was dating. Okay, I was seven years in the league. 445 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: A couple of plays where they bit bad on play fakes. Well, 446 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know which against this team in this 447 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: office is what we've seen so far. Not and I 448 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: don't mean like hesitation, I mean like, you know, taking 449 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: two or three steps in the wrong direction. They did it. 450 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: You know, they lost will Disley the tight end. They 451 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: let them pick up thirty yards on a play action 452 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: fake and again like kind of what I'm talking about, 453 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Like they lose their guys because I believe A. J. 454 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Klein was covering Tyler Lockett. It was incomplete, but not 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: because of the coverage. So that's something that intrigues me. 456 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: I think I think Kellen Moore should be able to 457 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: get these guys out of sorts, like the chunk players 458 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: should be there, even if the run game is only Okay, 459 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: giving up twenty seven points in all three games they've 460 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: played so far this year, it seems like they're able 461 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: to win the shootout type games. Do you think Dallas 462 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: has suited to play that kind of game and to 463 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: be able to beat them at that because they're seeing 464 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: they've won two of those three games even giving up 465 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven points. You think that that matches or is 466 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: favorable for the Cowboys to get into that kind of 467 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: that kind of game. Yeah. I mean they've scored thirty 468 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: thirty three points a game, so yeah, I think so. 469 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, but I you know one thing that we 470 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: don't know yet. It's still week three. I mean, I 471 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know if the Saints aren't a better football team 472 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: than the Cowboys. I mean, I know that sounds weird, 473 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: but they're two and one. You know, look at their 474 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: schedule and look who they've played so far. They've played 475 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: the Rams, They've played the Saints, I'm sorry, they played 476 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: the Texans. They played the Rams, and then they've played 477 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and you know, and so we're good teams. Yeah, 478 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: three three good teams. And when their schedule came out, 479 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: I was like that it's gonna be tough. I mean, 480 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: can you imagine if the Cowboys had played those three 481 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: teams and Cooper Rush had to play a game and 482 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, that's honestly, it's it's kind of the opposite. 483 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Is like, if you follow the narratives, it's like the 484 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys have to they have to make Hay here because 485 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: they're playing these bad teams and then it gets hard. Well, 486 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: once the Saints get through with this game, it kind 487 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: of lets up for him because they after this they 488 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: go Buccaneers, Jags, Bears are tough. But then the Cardinals 489 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: on the other side of that, so like pretty winnable 490 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: games out of four, so that it isn't I mean, yeah, 491 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 1: I mean they don't look anywhere near as good as 492 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but their resume it certainly looks better right now. 493 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: And they win this game, then you know, if it 494 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: comes down to tie breakers, then they would obviously have one. 495 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: They'd both be three and one, and they'd have one 496 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: on Dallas if it gets to that point. So you know, 497 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's again it's it's still early, but but 498 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: we don't really know just yet. I mean, to be 499 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: two and one and that schedule and having Breeze missed 500 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: that game, you know, a game and a half, I 501 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: think that's actually pretty much. I really really interesting interested 502 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: to see why Killen Moore is going to be able 503 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: to do in this game as far as being creative, 504 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: because right now, okay, you have Michael Gallup out and 505 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: we saw how that affected not having him in the offense. 506 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Then I've seen breaking down plays with Brian, what Lattimore 507 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: can do going up against Amari Cooper, Like that guy 508 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: has really good instincts and he's able to fall although 509 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: the receiver and move like there is no trick in 510 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: him a lot like as soon as you're trying to 511 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: do like a quick turn, he's gonna turn with you. 512 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: So it's I'm interested. I am expecting the Cowboys to 513 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: run the ball a lot more and lean more on 514 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Zeke this time around, because I just think I just 515 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna see the same kind of passing 516 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: game that they've been having as an offense. But see, 517 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to go what I'm saying is you know 518 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: what I saw on tape is I think I think 519 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: and I like I said, I wish Gallup was playing, 520 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: but like you think back to the Giants game where 521 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: there were just easy throws for Dak because of the 522 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: way they were confusing the Giants, Like I think that 523 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: we can see that again, Like I would expect Kelly 524 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: Moore can dial up ways to do that because the 525 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: secondary just doesn't. They seem confused and not very good. 526 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think I think their run 527 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: defense is better than the staff would show and that's 528 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: so I would rather try to pass to open that 529 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: up than vice versa. Hearing all that, it kind of 530 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: makes me think that this defense is, at least the 531 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: way they've played so far is similar to the Redskins defense. 532 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: The Redskins defense has a pretty stout front and they're 533 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: the type of defense that at least this year, their 534 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: secondary has been kind of in shambles and not really 535 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: playing great. Now, obviously they don't have Marshawn Lattimore. I mean, yeah, 536 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore. But but all that being said, I think 537 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: it's a similar type setup, and the Cowboys were able 538 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: to move the ball pretty effectively against that defense, both 539 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: in the run and the past game. I don't think 540 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: that that it certainly didn't didn't stop them early in 541 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: the game. There was some challenges, but once they got going, 542 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: they got rolling. Yeah, it goes back down to creativity. 543 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Why Kellen Moore is able to do with all those weapons, 544 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: and maybe if Tavon is back into the mix, how 545 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: is he gonna use him. He's a guy that, yes, 546 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: we he's been injured so much and all that, but 547 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: still having him on the field affects what they're doing 548 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: because they know that this guy I can freaking run 549 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: and he's fast, so that's another guy that they have 550 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. This is this This is 551 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: going to obviously be a bigger challenge than than the 552 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: first three games even. I mean, but the Saints defense 553 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: isn't as statistically as good as like the Redskins. But 554 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: if they can't at least maybe maybe they don't score 555 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty five, but I mean, they should be 556 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: able to hit the mid to high twenties like that 557 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: would be my expectation even on the release. I think 558 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: this is a dak running game. I think this is 559 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: one where he needs to to you know, they need 560 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: to call some plays for him to run the ball. 561 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that'll open up the middle there 562 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: for for Zeke and and even for in the passing game, 563 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: is to get him out there on the edge and 564 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: let him you know, whether it be some bootlegs, naked whatever, 565 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: let him do that, because I really think that that's 566 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: what's going to set this up this up. We didn't 567 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: see it much last week, but I think I think 568 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: Dakud really hurt some teams, especially the aggressive ones, if 569 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: he if they dial up some runs. I think ask 570 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: a point. But I think more than anything else, it's 571 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna be most important is don't have the turnovers and 572 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the special teams big plays, because I think last week 573 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: without those, I think that's a different ballgame. I think 574 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Seattle probably wins that game. So minus those two play 575 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's not like the defense gave 576 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: him short fields like literally a punt return touchdown and 577 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: a fumble six. Yeah, so that's fourteen out of thirty three. 578 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Why can't I do basic math? That's nineteen offensive points? Right? 579 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: And so I think that again, if you talk about 580 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and their ability to score on teams so far, 581 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: if that offense can get rolling and just don't make 582 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the critical mistakes on special teams or on defense that 583 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: give up points, I think that's really the key this week. 584 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we still haven't seen Bridgewater in 585 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: a situation where he's got to go out and with 586 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: his arm basically win a game that's a shootout. I 587 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: would think that that's kind of what if I'm the Cowboys, 588 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: what I would like to see. So you expect Dad 589 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: to win that kind of battle in that situation. I do. 590 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: I do what I've seen so far this year suggests 591 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: to me. And the reason why I say that's because 592 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I think good under pressure, that's where somehow the light 593 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: comes on and he's able to get the job done 594 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: when he's really under pressure, right. And the thing about shootouts, 595 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: when you watch him typically what happens is they sometimes 596 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: can start off a little slow, but once they start 597 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: rolling and team start scoring, then they keep scoring. And 598 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: that's the one thing we've seen about this team all 599 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: season when they get rolling, once they figure it out, 600 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: once they figure out what the defense is doing, they 601 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: seem to just be like touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. So I 602 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: think in that kind of scenario, if Cowboys get into 603 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: a shootout, I think it sets up really nicely for them. 604 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not certain. Again, that's not to say Bridgewater 605 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: can't do it. We just haven't seen him do it yet. 606 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: So if I'm the Cowboys, that's kind of the way 607 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I kind of hope this thing plays out. All Right, 608 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: here's here's a just putting you on the spot. What's 609 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the best environment where Dak has ever like absolutely balled out? 610 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break when we come back. 611 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: I answer that question. All right, when we come right back. 612 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Recroment's big such a 613 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: great deal, it's okay, just okay. What's not to do 614 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: right above the subway? Well, I bet you don't even 615 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: notice it after that's my neighbor hangs. A deal that's 616 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: just okay, is not okay? Get a great deal with 617 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: America's best network. 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We've talked about Free to Play? Are 652 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you we got to play Free to Play? Yes? Actually, 653 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: what we are doing we are setting up and this 654 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: is going to be in the app starting next week, 655 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: I think. But we're setting up. Uh, they're calling it 656 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: a celebrity League now. They use that term very loosely 657 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: because it's going to include all of us. But we're 658 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: gonna actually set up and we're gonna be playing along 659 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: so people can see how they rate relative to us. Now, 660 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: we can't win the money, but we will. I will 661 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: throw some little prizes out there for our group for 662 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: the person that wins every week. Okay, I'll just write 663 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: then I'll just talk about that then. I don't think 664 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Dave knew he was playing Free to Play? Yeah he did, 665 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: because Brian was talking about it this morning. I thought 666 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it was suggested that we play. Yeah, you got to 667 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: be older than twenty one, I suggested by me. So 668 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm playing good but people the bus car you guys 669 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: check out Free to Play, though, because you could get 670 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars in grand prize. So check that out 671 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com slash app. If you don't 672 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: have the app, you need it because it's easy to 673 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: get our stuff, all our stuff, all our stuff. All right, Dave, 674 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: right before the break, you had an interesting question you 675 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: wanted to past the group. I'm just I'm I was, 676 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm just spitball and I'm curious, like, you know, what 677 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: is the best environment where Dak has like gone on 678 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: the road and really, you know, shut up, like what 679 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about? You talking about like the best game 680 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: he's had on the road in a really hostile environment. Yeah, okay, 681 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: he I mean he bawled out against the Giants last year, 682 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Big whoop. That was a bad team and MetLife was 683 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: full of Cowboys fans. FedEx was full of Cowboys fans 684 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. Like that ain't hostile, so I 685 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's never done it. I went 686 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: and looked during the break. He played a great game 687 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: at the Link last year against Philly twenty six to 688 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: thirty six to seventy and a touchdown, ran for a 689 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: touchdown to Spike getting sacked four times, so that's awesome. 690 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: And then the obvious one is as a rookie against Pittsburgh, 691 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: he had a fantastic game at Hinesfield, such a fun 692 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: game that was such a top three that I've ever 693 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: covered for this team, was such fun. He bawled out 694 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: at Lambeau actually as a rookie two. But really, I mean, 695 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: so he's had great games on the road, don't get 696 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: me wrong, but like when I'm like what we're going 697 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: to see on Sunday night, I think the Philly game 698 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: is the most recently that he's done it. Because Week 699 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: seventeen at MetLife against a really bad Giants team just 700 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: isn't the same as what the superdomes we just break 701 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: you down indoors, or what has he done there? Because 702 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: I I think I could think of all the Colts 703 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: every home game, you mean the road road home, They're 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: not like, did not play again? Did not play well 705 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: against the Colts Falcons? Well he well, actually Vikings, he 706 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: was terrible against the Vikings. Kirakie is rookie area, Yeah 707 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: he didn't, I mean, all right, terrible as a stretch, 708 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: but I think he threw for like one sixty eight 709 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: or something like that he was fine against the Falcons 710 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: last year twenty two or thirty two for two o eight, 711 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: don't I mean yeah end up winning. Yeah they I 712 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: mean they won. But I'm again so that I get. 713 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: My point is like, if I expect him to capitalize 714 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: the way I think he can on this defense the secondary, 715 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: it will be a little bit unusual, Like he hasn't 716 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: had that many of those like really amazing games in 717 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: these types of environments. No offense to them, those other 718 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: teams in those day games, but that's not like what 719 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: these gonna face Sunday night against the Saints. The energy 720 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: in the Dome at night, especially with the fact that 721 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: there will be Cowboy fans there, but you know, the 722 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are good. The Saints, you know, very protective of 723 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: their home turf. It will be a really awesome atmosphere 724 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: and nothing like a noon game at Atlanta, Detroit, Indianapolis. 725 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: No offense to them. But my dear, my dear friend 726 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: John Mashoda, he's so good at like just pulling up 727 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: random stuff that everybody forgot about, because you remember all 728 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: or nothing when they filmed it in twenty seventeen when 729 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: they played Denver, they had he had he posted a 730 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: flip of Jason Garrett like, yeah, the crowd's gonna be crazy. 731 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: You know how you shut up the crowd, You hand 732 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 1: the ball to number twenty one right there and blow 733 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: their ass off the line. Which they lost that game 734 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: very badly, like they got annihilated. Bad memories that the story, like, 735 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: the strategy is the same, play well, execute especially early, 736 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: and you can calm that atmosphere down at David. Wasn't 737 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: that the game where Dank had like fifty pass attempts? 738 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: H Denver? I think it was, yeah, no, they I 739 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: mean they were getting they were getting murdered, and Z 740 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. I think, yeah, that couldn't do 741 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: anything eight yards something like it back definitely, I don't 742 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: have the box score in front of me. It was 743 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: like thirty for fifty. Heat threw a lot of passes. 744 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know if I've seen the Cowboys get 745 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: manhandled in Dak's there are quite like that. I mean, 746 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: that was a bad game against the Colts last year. 747 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: You can say it was pretty bad. Most of the 748 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: game against the Rams last year. Neither one of them 749 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: they got band handled like they did. It's thirty, Yeah, 750 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: thirty they could do nothing thirty of fifty or two 751 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight, which is less than five yards per attempt, 752 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: and Dak was the team's leading rusher. Like, yeah, that 753 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: was that was a brutalizing like we are not used 754 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: to seeing in the recent Jason Garrett era. Maybe the 755 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: other one that comes to mind is in the Superdome 756 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. That was up there. You know, people 757 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: start talking about the altitude. Yeah, there's a weather delay 758 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: for like an hour. It was like, let's stay focused people, 759 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: all right, So I had a question for you guys 760 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: from Art van delay. He said, hard to pick. That's 761 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: a that's a Seinfeld reference. It's sorry, all right, go ahead, 762 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: but anyway, hard that's the thing about Twitter, you know, yeah, 763 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: getting on anyway, hard to knitpick the offense. But thoughts 764 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: on Zeke only having five receptions? You guys think he's 765 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: being underutilized in the passing game. Okay, just when they 766 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: not to sound like Troy Ekman here, but like before 767 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: they get to you know, when they get less than 768 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: thirty one points in a game, let's let's talk about that. No, 769 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: it's to pick your poison. They haven't had to do that. 770 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: They haven't had to. They're running the ball, they're they're 771 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: doing well, they're throwing it down the feel they haven't 772 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: had to really throw screens and stuff like that. They 773 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: haven't done that just yet because they're able to do 774 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: what they want to do. But they will. I don't 775 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: think it's a nitpick. I just think it's it's something 776 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: that just hasn't hasn't needed to be there just yet. 777 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: But you know they're they're doing it this way. And 778 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: what I love is we know that works. We know 779 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: that throwing those screen passes to seek works. They've seen it. 780 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: I love that Kellen has given himself the chance to 781 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: try other things first. You know, he keeps talking about, yes, 782 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: I have more things on my game plan and things 783 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: under my sleeve, and he does like, there's no need 784 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: to do all that with Zeke when you have all 785 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: these other elements. Now, maybe this is the one game 786 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: that we do start seeing those kinds of things when 787 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: you start talking about what's happening with not having Michael 788 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Gallup in the offense, and maybe if they take Amari 789 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Cooper out a little bit from the game, you know, 790 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: as far as defense goes. So I think that's a 791 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: good thing that we haven't necessarily needed to see that. Yeah, 792 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: i'd like him to be more involved, but I mean 793 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to nitpick what they're doing at 794 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: this point. I let even said that it is two years. Like, 795 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not nick picking, it's I'd like Randall Cobb to 796 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: be more involved, for that matter, and I think without 797 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, maybe that's something that you could see here. Uh. 798 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you know these linebackers are on discipline, 799 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: maybe z can take advantage of that in a variety 800 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: of different ways. I think, I mean five through three games, 801 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: so he's on pace for less than thirty. Yeah, I'd 802 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: like to see him be a little more active in 803 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: the passing game. But I'm not losing sleep about it 804 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: right now. And honestly, my hope is that all of 805 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: these kinds of wrinkles that would be, you know, using 806 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: him in the passing game, maybe using Pollard a little 807 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: bit more in the passing game, maybe using more jet 808 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: sleeps with Pollard. I'm hoping some of that stuff is 809 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: stuff that they have saved they haven't had to use. Yeah, 810 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: and because they haven't had to use it, it comes 811 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: up in some of these games where you may need 812 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: a little more variety. You may need to throw something 813 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: at teams that they haven't seen on film just yet. Again, 814 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: that's one of the things. And if you go back 815 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: and you listen carefully to what what was being said 816 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: after that first game, Kellen Moore talked about the fact 817 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: that he even said there were some things that we 818 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to go to that we can say for 819 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: a little later, and that, to me, I think that's 820 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: the value of a good offensive coordinator is somebody that 821 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: has so many tricks in their bag that they don't 822 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: necessarily have to pull them all out at one time. 823 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: And as the season goes on, which is his long season, 824 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: you'll find opportunities to be able to do some things 825 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: that you haven't put on film before in games, in 826 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: critical moments and games when you really need them real quick. 827 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: Before we end the show, I wanted to get some 828 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: opinions from you guys on the Thursday night game tonight. 829 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: You got Packers versus Philadelphia Eagles. Who do you think 830 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: wins that game? I I don't think that the Eagles 831 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: lose it. I I know that I'm saying Eagles will win, 832 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: but I just don't feel like they're gonna lose and 833 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: go to one and three. I just don't I think 834 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: that would be two beneficial for the Cowboys for that 835 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: technical that right now. I don't know if the Packers, well, 836 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean the three and oh and it's 837 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's tough to win there. But I feel 838 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: like this is the type of game as soon as 839 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: you think you kind of know, you know, one of 840 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: those both those two teams, something like this would happen. 841 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: I just think the Eagles are too talented to go 842 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: one in three. I know that they're already one in two, 843 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: but as I said yesterday, they're very easily three and 844 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: oh and oh and three. They're just playing right there. 845 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: I think they win to night. I go back and 846 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: forth because I agree with everything he just said. It's 847 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: it's so silly to try to write the Eagles off 848 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: three weeks into the season. Al Shan Jeffrey is going 849 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: to be back this week. Deshan Jackson might be back. Really, 850 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was definitely, Oh oh, he might be. Honestly, 851 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm too busy to try and keep up with what's 852 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: going on with the Cowboy either. At least one of 853 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: them is going back back, yes, maybe two, but at 854 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: least one. Um At the same time, I said this 855 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: on the break, like it's it's during the break. It's 856 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: hard to go on the road on Thursday night and win. 857 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: Like it's it's tough, You're it's not a lot of 858 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: rest time. You got to travel. It's a hustle environment. 859 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: Pretty good quarterback and defense. On the other side, I 860 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: still think the Eagles are good, but I think the 861 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: Packers are gonna win. I think the Eagles I'm gonna 862 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: go with everything exactly that Nick mentioned, and I just 863 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: think that I just don't see it happening to where 864 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: now it creates this good lead within the division, you know, 865 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: between the Eagles and the Cowboys. It always happens where 866 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: it's just kind of right there in that battle. I 867 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: just don't see them falling that far behind from the Cowboys. 868 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: The Eagles could fall to one in three and still 869 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: the races and over playing them twice. I mean, that's 870 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: the easiest way to jump back in. Quite frankly, I 871 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: actually expect that the Packers win to night, and I 872 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: expect that what's going to happen is Philly's going to 873 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: find a point to season where they can get their 874 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: footing and they're gonna start winning some games, and it's 875 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting that this is not gonna be is 876 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be one of those things where the Eagles 877 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: are completely out of it. Even if the Cowboys win 878 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: the division handily, which I still would question whether that 879 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: would happen. I still think Philly's gonna be right there 880 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: in position to be in a wild card. And don't 881 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: think you might not face them in the playoffs, Like 882 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: they're one of those teams that just kind of keep coming. 883 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: They traded away their best quarterback and you know, wow, 884 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: and you know the guy that's really helped them. Okay, 885 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: so if the Eagles lose, okay, what happens with the 886 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys win this game? All right tomorrow. I'm just saying, 887 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: like I just I do have a thing for statistics 888 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: and how things look on score where I just don't 889 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: see it happening. It's even but every every year we 890 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: do this where we try to write the storylines before Halloween. 891 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean, we fired everybody and said buy to the 892 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: playoffs last year in Week eight, let alone week four. 893 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: So it's I mean, you can only react to what 894 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: you've seen. I get that but if the Eagles could 895 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: fall to one in four, forget one in three, and 896 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: I'd be like, they still have to run and still 897 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: still got run, and we'll see. All right, guys, appreciate you. 898 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: Join us for back tomorrow eleven thirty till then lub 899 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: forty five, Sorry till then. 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