1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to move with the sticks. I'm here with my 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: man Lands Airline. We are recapping day two of the 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: draft plans. How you feeling good? You put that work 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: in today, Buck, didn't you? Man? You have no you 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: have no radio. You're right, instant reactions. I'm like, dude, 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: you don't even you don't even have a clue. You 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: tell people exactly, Come on, just tell people what you 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I want to know what your day. My day started 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: at seven am on the radio show six started yesterday 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: and it ended at four am when I finally finished 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: my round two and round three. Mock. It's a laser, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: it's a labor of love and all that. It's just 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: hard to get through mocks. But I'm curious, what's your day? 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Because I know, of at least four this is at 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: least the fourth thing you've done today. You have My 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: guess is thirty did TV eight o'clock, TV ninety five 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: digital stuff, Jacksonville twelve thirty press conference? Um might even 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: coach the football game in between all of that while 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: doing it? So yes, uh yeah, it was. It was 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: a lot and I had to do all the recap 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: other picks on dot com, so every pick that was 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: coming in and had for not analysis while going so 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: if you can imagine doing that well coaching. So it's 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: been a busy day. So it's been a lot. But 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about this draft because it was a lot 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: of cool stuff that took place. We will react to 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: some of the uh topics, some of your favorite players, 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: things that you like. The Houston Tate Texans took a quarterback, 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: here was a trade up, frenzy. Um, we saw a 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: bunch of surprises, winners. All of that will cover it. 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: And so first things first, because look, man, you're you're 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: all about age town. We have to figure out how 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to have this conversation about Davis Mills going to the 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Texans in the third round pick sixties seven, what does 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: actually it means or the Texas in Deshaun Watson. But 37 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: before we do that, let's see what DJ had to 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: see about it. Everybody in the National Football League believes 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time before Deshaun Watson is 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: a former Houston Texans. So this to me is finding 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback that you like. Now, obviously you're not gonna 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: get Deshaun Watson level player here with Davis Mills, but 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ability and we'll give him his 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: due in just a moment here. But to me, it's 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: all about a timing with everything that's going on, from 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: what's going on with with DeShawn in a legal perspective. 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Once that is exhausted, there's not an expectation from anybody 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: in the league that he's gonna be back in Houston. 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Everybody assumes that's taking place. The Miami Dolphins collected a 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: bunch of picks in next year's draft. A lot of 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: people assume that was because they thought this might take 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: some time and they would have the ammunition at that 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: point in time to do something with the Shawn Watson. 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's other teams lined up as well, 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: but this is just another example of where this is 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: all headed. I think we can all see it. I 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: can't spot any lies on that one, Bucky, Yeah, I mean, 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I can't spind any lives. But I don't know if 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: you take a third round pick thing you can replace 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And I don't know if Davis Mills is 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: that guy, because I'm not gonna sit here and act 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: like a player with eleven career starts in college is 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: ready to be the air parent to Deshaun Watson. And 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I also will say this, you are down there, boots 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: on the ground with the situation in Houston. But we're 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: still talking about the top five player. We're still talking 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: about the top five quarterback who is a franchise player 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: who they paid a bunch of money too. And I 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: don't know, like, look, I know it's messy and all 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: of that other stuff, but I've been around the league 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: long enough to know that talent trump's a lot of 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: different things. And so we'll see what it looks like 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and how it ends up. But I don't know. If 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: David's Mills is depicted that's like, hey, okay, yeah, you 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: know what they're moving on from them. I think I 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: need to see a little more before I'm absolutely convinced that, 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: like that's the move that the Texas are gonna make. Well, 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: so you know, first of all, Davis Mills, I actually 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: the players. Fine, I don't have a problem with the player. 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I think he would have been great for Washington if 81 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: you if Washington wanted to grab him, because that's the 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: guy that you say, okay, this might be the guy 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: if you plug him into Houston. Here's the difference. They 84 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: have so many needs. It's one of the worst rosters 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: in the league when you look at, you know, the 86 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: long term viability. They don't have core pieces. Their best 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: players are on one year deals basically other than Laramie 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Tunsil and and Zach Cunningham. So this move when you 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: have cornerbacks on the board, you have defensive tackles on 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: the board to help you against the run. When you 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: have you know, wide receivers on the board, and it 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: just this is a curious selection to me. I understand 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: liking Davis Mills, but in this year where you have 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: limited draft capital and then you trade up to get 95 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Niko Collins a wide receiver. Um, they clearly panicked after 96 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: the Kyle Trash draft followed by Kellen Mond and after 97 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: that was over, Bucky, it was just it was it 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: was a panic, and I think Nicki's area would have 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: loved to have trade back and add draft capital. But 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: once those quarterbacks went, you know, I think he was 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: in trouble. That tells me that Davis Mills was gonna 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: be his pick. He locked in on Davis Mills or 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: he would not have selected him here at at this 104 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: particular spot. And I just you know, why would you 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Why would you draft a quarterback who you consider to 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: be developmental? You mentioned it, eleven starts? Why would you 107 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: do that when when you could potentially find starters with 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: another draft pick in the third round at cornerback, for example, 109 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: if he tolfon Wu is a guy that I liked 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot. I thought he would have been a great 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: fit for the Texans. And uh, yeah, this one, this 112 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: one doesn't make sense. I can tell you. Here in 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Houston though, people think, not only is DeShawn decided he's 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: playing his last game for the Texans, maybe the Texans 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: have had a change of heart because the whole face 116 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: of the franchise thing, let's talk about that for one second. 117 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: How do you go from he was the player cut 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: face the franchise. I mean on all the commercials here, 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: they're all gone. How do you come back from that 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: when it's your face of the franchise? Guy? Can he 121 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: come back into the fold and would he be comfortable 122 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: coming back into the fold? Yeah? I don't know. I 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: mean I think that's a longer and more drawn out conversation, 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: maybe before another time, But I will say this, we 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: saw Ben Roethlisberger come back and re emerge as the 126 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: face of the franchise in Pittsburgh. I think in time 127 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: most things can kind of be worked through. It'll be interesting. 128 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: But I will say this, if you take David's Mills 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: in the third round and you do jettison Deshaun Watson 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: this season and the offseason, you're gonna go right back 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: to the pond and fish again for another quarterback. So 132 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: what is really the point when you have Tyrod Taylor there? 133 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I think that to me was the thing. If you 134 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: know you're going to go back and have to fish 135 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: in those waters, I don't know. I think you might 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: have wasted the third round pick, but you brought up 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: something that that that really makes me think about why 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: they did it. The knee jerk reaction to other to 139 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: backs going. We saw eight quarterbacks go in the first 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: three rounds, just the most ever. But cal Trask went 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers at the bottom of the second round, 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: and then Kellen Mond going to the Vikings in the 143 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: third round. What are your thoughts on col Trash first, 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: well as far as Kyle Trash, I think it's a 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a good fit for the Bucks in 146 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: terms of a developmental look. I have my doubts about 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: him becoming a guy that you're gonna win with at 148 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: a high level for the Bucks, but there is a 149 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: lot around him, and he does have some protection right now, 150 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: twist Tristan Worth's is there. So when you look at 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: both Trash and Mom will get to Mom in the second. 152 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I think the thing that stands out is there's some 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: pieces in place on those teams. Christian Darisau was just 154 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: drafted by the Minnesota Vikings, and there's a new left 155 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: tackle for you know, Kirk Cousins and maybe in the 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: future Kellen mont So Trash through the Bucks Bucky, I 157 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: like it. I like the fact that he can throw 158 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the deep ball, throw it effectively, and you've got Mike 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Evans and you you know, you've got an entire list 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: of wide receivers that I think do a good job 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: going going after the deep ball. So um Stylistically, I 162 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: think it makes sense. And I think he's got a 163 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: very good offensive coordinator over there Uh to work with 164 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: as well, not just Bruce Arians but also um Byron Leftwich. 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: So I like it for Trask, I think it's a 166 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: good spot for Trask. This gives him his best chance 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: to succeed in my opinion. Yeah, I think it is 168 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: a good spot for for Trash. And it's one of 169 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: those situations where cal Trast needed a supporting cast that 170 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: had everything to protect him, meaning a big offensive line 171 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: that could protect him so he doesn't have to move around, 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: big time playmakers on the outside, which is similar to 173 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the playmakers that he had at the University of Florida. 174 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: This is a great pick for him. Now we'll get 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: a chance to see because Tom Brady doesn't seem like 176 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: he is willing to give up that role anytime soon. 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: But for Bruce arians Byron Leftwich, guys that have a 178 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: soft spot for the big old school quarterbacks. We'll see 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: if they can develop those guys and see if they 180 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: can make cal Trash into a player. Kellaman in Minnesota, 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: what's your initial thought? Uh? So, I like this because 182 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: this is one of these plots. I call it a 183 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: plausible deniability pick. Bucky. It's a third round, so you 184 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: can say it's just a backup. I mean, right, we're 185 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: just getting a little bit more, you know, we want 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: to have a good quality guy in there, just in 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: case something happens with Kirk. Don't worry about it, Kirk. 188 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: It's just it's third round. It's can't you can't possibly 189 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: be a starter. But the reality is I think they 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: wanted to. I think this is a pick where you 191 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: throw the bait in the water potentially at some point 192 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: in camp and you start seeing what you have with them, 193 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: because you've got you've got pass catchers, um with, You've 194 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: got pass catchers, you've got a great running game, and 195 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: you've got some protection. As I just mentioned, you just 196 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: added a left tackle. I think it's a very interesting selection. 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: Once again, Mon for me, is not a guy who's 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: going to be a plus starter in the NFL based 199 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: on what I've seen from college. But I do think 200 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: that the I think the Vikings would love to introduce 201 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: some legitimate competition over there for Kirk Cousin. Yeah, and 202 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Calamanna can do it this year. 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it may take some time because Curt is 204 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: gonna be on that. But absolutely I think at some point, Man, 205 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: you won't bet it. You kind of reached your sealing 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to Kurt Cousins. You're trying to play 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: out this stream, but if you can't find a young 208 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: quarterback that kind of comes out of maybe uh a 209 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: surprising circumstance in the third round. Yeah, maybe it works 210 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: with them. One other thing that stood out, um in 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: this draft lands appeared to be a ton of trades, 212 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: like just a trade and frenzy, particularly in the second round. 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, everybody that you 214 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: that you see there, Bucky Denver moved up for Javante Williams. 215 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: He's a back that a lot of running back coaches 216 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I talked to thought was just as talented as as 217 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: Nagy Harris or Travis Etienne, who are both first rounders. 218 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: So that made a lot of sense for Denver because 219 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: they consolidate the three running back approach that they had 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: last year in the one single one and he's talented. 221 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots moving up for Barmore, of course Alabama player 222 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: to the Patriots doesn't surprise you. But he is also 223 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: the best defensive tackle on this draft. So you know, 224 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: the Bears moved up for a guy that has first 225 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: round talent and Teven Jenkins and it was a big 226 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: name for them and a lot of us, probably you included. 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who didn't at some point in 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: time have Jenkins over at right tackle included. I think 229 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: that was my last my draft that Jenkins in the 230 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: first round for the Bears and instead they get him 231 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: in the second round due to a trade up of 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: a thirteen uh thirteen spots and then the Dolphins fifty 233 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: to forty two. You know, it's just smart. They know 234 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to tackle. They stuck with their guns and 235 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: drafted the playmaker and Waddle and they said, well, we've 236 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: got enough draft capital that we're not gonna panic. We 237 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: can go get a tackle any time we want in 238 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: the second round, and that's what they did. They let 239 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: the draft come to him, and when the time was right, 240 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: they moved up at eight spots. And I think they 241 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: got a solid right tackle. No, I think they absolutely 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: get a solid right tackle. I am really amazed at 243 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: the aggressiveness that was displayed in the second round. This 244 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: draft was as valado as any draft that we've seen. 245 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: We knew it we was gonna be a lot of 246 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: movement because no one really could get a sense of 247 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: what other people had or how other people's draft boards looked, 248 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: so that that made it really really dicey when it 249 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: came to it because you didn't know who liked whom, 250 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: and I think this draft with the trades kind of 251 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: reflected that Javonte Williams certainly was a big one. You 252 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: talked about Bron Moore and Jenkins, I ken Burke going 253 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: to Miami Dolphins, which was really a big pig because 254 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: we thought that he didn't get down and have some 255 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: other chances, and so it was a big thing. Um, 256 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders made a trade in the second round to 257 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: get Trevin Morrick, who you know, we kind of anticipated 258 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: being a guy in the first round. One. What did 259 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: you think about the Raiders being aggressive? Secondly, what do 260 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: you think about Marick falling to the second round when 261 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: most of us thought that he would come and come 262 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: off the boards somewhere in the first round. Well, you know, 263 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: it really is tricky because I talked to teams who, Um, 264 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: I didn't run into teams who are is crazy about him? 265 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, and I kind of liked him. 266 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was borderline first somewhere between pick number, 267 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight to thirty seven thirty eight when 268 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I watched him on tape that that kind of guy. 269 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I didn't get the same kind of love when I 270 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: talked to some different teams, so I actually, uh I 271 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: didn't have him in my last mark. I didn't have 272 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a safety, but I was surprised he fell there. I 273 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: thought more, uh, Mary would be one of the first 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: players off. I thought he'd be one of the first 275 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: eight players off the board. For him to fall and 276 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: keep falling. The Raiders who have been extreme, well they 277 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: got their own draft board, I'll say that. And with 278 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: this one though, they kind of went with a by 279 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: the book move up the board from forty to forty 280 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: three to go get a player who Bucky. He's got 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: some ball skills, he's got instincts, and he can play 282 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: over the slot as well. Um he's the best safety 283 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: in the draft to me, and I think the Raiders, 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: who have taken some very aggressive swings of the bat 285 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: over the last two or three seasons, this is one 286 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: of those smart doubles. I liked us. I like it 287 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: a lot. Going for Um kind of a no brainer 288 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: when you think about it. He's no Brander because I 289 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: think he's a better player in terms of how he 290 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: plays the game than Jonathan Apron. And I know they 291 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: have high host for Jonathan Abron being a guy that 292 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: can get down in the box and get dirty and 293 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: nasty and all those other stuff. Murk to me is 294 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: a more natural, more instinctive players. So they get him 295 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: in the second round. They can put him as the 296 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: the ornament on the top of the tree and that 297 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley defense and see if he can make some plays. Um, 298 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting. But I think DJ also has some thoughts 299 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: in so let's hear DJ will in on that I 300 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: love this pick Rich. So this is what's so great 301 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: about the draft. They take my sixty second player at seventeen, 302 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: they come back at my sixteenth player at forty three. 303 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,239 Speaker 1: Just shows you can have all different opinions on these players. 304 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: But Travian Morrigan is my top safety. He's a complete safety. 305 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: He's outstanding with his angles to the alley. There's no 306 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: panic whatsoever to his game. Sometimes when the ball goes 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: up you see guys freak out. This gets very comfortable 308 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: finding it and going after it. The range from the 309 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: middle of the fielder from the deep half is outstanding. 310 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: So Trayvon Marrick to me a home run picked for 311 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raider man. He liked him, and I 312 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: understand why, because there's a lot to like when you 313 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: watch the tape. He's one of the more natural UH 314 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: cover safeties that you will find. Can come down over 315 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: this slot, can play the tight end really really good 316 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: in space when it comes to making tackles. And so 317 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders have one, and then they got Bradley System. 318 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I think he's the center fielder that they desperately need. 319 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: But there was another corner, or not another corner, but 320 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: another player that failed surprised me. How about j Okay 321 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Jeremiah woolsu Core Moore. The Browns scoop him up at 322 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: fifty two. This is the guy that many of us 323 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: thought he would be going into teams. Yeah, I'm interested. 324 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: Let me hear what DJ had to say on him first, 325 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: because I didn't get to hear that one. And I'm 326 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: really curious what DJ said about him falling this. Jeremiah's 327 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: pretty fired up about that's Jeremiah right here. Overall player 328 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: to me be toughnesses in and instincts or what you want, 329 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: and a defensive player. And this kid is dripping in 330 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: all three. So he's not the biggest guy in the world. 331 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: He probably played at you one or ten, two or 332 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: twelve pounds, but he can cover in the slot. Some 333 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: teams just gonna be a big nickel or a strong safety. 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Others view him as a will linebacker. Again, to me, 335 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: this is a home run pick. All these general managers 336 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: and head coaches are high fiving after picks. This deserves 337 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: a hug. This is a home run. Yeah. I mean 338 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I agree with him, Bucky. To be honest with you, 339 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: I have I'm even higher on him than DJ was. 340 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I am two four or six. I got him as 341 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: my eighth best player in the draft. Now this is 342 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I'm gonna straight up projection mode. Um. 343 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: I see the traits, I see the talent, I see 344 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: the explosives, I see I see production. But he also 345 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: really hasn't fully developed as a linebacker yet. And he 346 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: is a two hundred twenty three pounds two or twenty 347 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: two pounds. You got have to learn to take on 348 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: some blocks from time to time. Canny play closer to 349 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. They had him out over the 350 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of an nickel role almost and out over split 351 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: uh tight ends and receivers. So I get I get 352 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: all that, But when it comes to running and hitting 353 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: and tackling and aggression and physicality and being versatile. He's 354 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: got all that, So move up the board here. Another 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: smart move. But to your point, with the medicals being 356 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: the way they were, where you just didn't have time 357 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: to recheck a lot of the medicals this year, and 358 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: then maybe not as much lead chatter going on as 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: previously because you weren't on the road as much. I 360 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: think he gets on effect that maybe I'm just maybe 361 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: me and DJ and maybe even you. I don't know 362 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: what you have where you had him ranked, but maybe 363 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: the vastly different boards that everyone expected to happen simply happened. 364 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Everything we talked about, how well, it's gonna be a 365 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: lot different this year. It's gonna be a lot different 366 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and it it proved to be. Yeah. 367 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: I think I think that kind of game to fruition 368 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: without the ability to have what I called think tank 369 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: or group mindset where everyone gets together at the combine 370 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: to get together pro days and they begin to talk 371 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: and hey, what do you think about this guy and 372 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: that guy and this and that, and everybody's report kind 373 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: of bleeds into one another's. It. I think it did 374 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: have an impact because their variance is that we have 375 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: seen on in this draft are kind of crazy. I mean, 376 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: we're talked about guys that we certainly didn't imagine. Who's 377 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: that nation right for the Dallas Cowboys, I had him 378 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: seven p f A. I mean, man, for him to 379 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: be off the board already right now, I don't think 380 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: anybody saw that. And there are people on the West 381 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: Coast they didn't give them that kind of love, and 382 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: so um, it's not us, man, But beauty is always 383 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder this year because you 384 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: didn't have maybe some of the corrective measures that would 385 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: have been in there, your best friend, your homie telling you, like, ah, 386 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: you are little rich on that you might check that, 387 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: or did you watch this tape? Still talking on the 388 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: phone right or yeah, yeah, you're still talking on the phone. 389 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: But you know, you tend to let your guard down 390 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're together, when you're on the road, maybe 391 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: you having dinner, some beverages or whatever. Loose lips sink 392 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: ships and all this stuff kind of happens. But but 393 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you know it's Look, it's a different it's a different time, 394 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: and there are some guys that winning this round maybe 395 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: a little sooner than we thought. But at the end 396 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: of the day, it's not where you picked, it's how 397 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: you play. And so we'll see how these guys play 398 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: when they get their opportunity to get on the field. 399 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: I thought there were some big surprises in this one, Bucky. Um. 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I guess one of them was how quickly I thought 401 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks were gonna come off the board earlier then 402 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: they did in the In the second and third round, 403 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: I kept saying, wait a minute, where's the quarter The 404 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: cornerbacks are supposed to fly. They're supposed to fly off 405 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: the board. Here, what's happened? And what's happening? And as 406 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: we got to the end of the draft, five of 407 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the last seven we had that little quarterback run Trask 408 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: and Mond and then Mills, and then came at the 409 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: back end of three we had five cornerbacks going in 410 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: the last seven picks. And it is funny how we 411 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: may have different boards, Bucky, but everyone realizes, boy, once 412 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: once one position, once you start seeing them go, oh, 413 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: all go. So it's funny that you mentioned that. Right. 414 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here looking at um a recap of today, 415 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: and I see the run on tackles go, and that 416 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: happened between thirty nine and fifty three, we saw ratings 417 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: go Cosmi go Jackson, Carmen go Walker, a little win Lee, 418 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: Liam Eichenberg comes off the board, Tivin Jenkins who started 419 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: to run, and so you're thinking about that. Then you 420 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: go a little further than there's a little bit of 421 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: a run on wide receivers. They kind of start coming 422 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: off the board right when you get into the seventies. 423 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer comes off, Dyami Brown goes to the Washington 424 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: football team. At eight two, you see a Mari Rodgers 425 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: goes to the Packers. Nico Collins goes at eighty nine 426 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: to the Michigan Um, I mean he goes eighty nine Houston, Texas, 427 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: and then Anthony Schwartz from Auburn to speech it goes 428 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: to Cleveland. And then you talked about the run at 429 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: corners and you're right. When those guys start peeling those 430 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: tags off the board really quickly, that's when you have 431 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: to make a decision. He if we're gonna get one, 432 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: we better get him here because if we go back 433 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: around one more time, we may be picking, uh, picking 434 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: the bones, picking the scraps. Yeah, you have to do 435 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. I tell you a guy who's 436 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: stole on the board that I was pretty shocked. I 437 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: guess the highest rated guy that I stopped on the 438 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: board or I stacked my board. I'm not totally shocked 439 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: about i'man ross st Brown. I I had him as 440 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: a third fourth, and then I talked to a team 441 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: who said, you might want to move of him up 442 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: to to three. And this team likes him a lot, 443 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: but they didn't, you know, they didn't draft him. But 444 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep an eye to see if they draft 445 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: him sometime in the fourth round. But um, Michael Carter 446 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: from Duke Man, I mean from North Carolina Man. So 447 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: much love, so much love for him. He's a good player. 448 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Every team loved him. Every running back coach loved him. 449 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: And yet because he's not two d and ten pounds 450 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: and you know, a three down back, I guess he slid. 451 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: But I would have I would have wagered that he 452 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: would have beaten Trey Sermon off the board. I thought 453 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was for sure going to be the 454 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: fourth running back off the board. Yeah, you know, it's 455 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: funny because I thought he would have come off the 456 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: board a little sooner. But you never know what the 457 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: running backs, you know, like the running back market is 458 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: always kind of funny, you know, like because there's so 459 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: many of them, And I feel like this was a 460 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: very deep draft in solid running backs, and because of that, 461 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: I think that actually depressed their value. And so we'll 462 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: see that run on running backs maybe go at the 463 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth round. Yeah, I'm looking at Modre Stevenson, 464 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: kinn Of Gainwell, Khalil Herbert, Jamar Jefferson, Larry Roundtree, Jared Patterson, 465 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell, Cuba. Yeah, you're gonna see. I don't know. 466 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I think based on the way the board looks, I 467 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: think they're I think they're gonna wait until the fifth 468 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: round on running backs and then you're gonna see a 469 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: ton of them go. And I had a I had 470 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: a personnel exact who his the way he looks at it, Bucky, 471 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious if you look at the same 472 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: way as he just said, Look, if is this somebody 473 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: that we could get next year? Because if your answer is, oh, yeah, 474 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: we could get somebody just like him in any year 475 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: in the draft, then you don't really have to get 476 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: too worked up about a running back. No. And I 477 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: think that's I mean, I think that's the deal, you know, 478 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: like I think, you have to be able to be number. 479 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: You have to assess what it is. And we we've 480 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: seen year after year after year at that position, you 481 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: being able to find guys and lead a round. And 482 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: so some of these guys are sticking to their premise 483 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: and that is really impacted why we're running backs go 484 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: off the board because the guys used to come off 485 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the board early. Right now people are exhibiting a little 486 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: more patients because one they know in a supply and 487 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: demand business, a lot of supply and running backs in 488 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: one class. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Um anything else, 489 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: last name, anything else, anything else that stood out to 490 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: you from the first two days of the draft. No, 491 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: not too much, not too much. I did think Ballard, 492 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought he was okay for the first last two 493 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: days of the draft. He went and got quitty pay 494 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: will you let him come to him? He didn't trade up, 495 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and then he took the kid from Vanderbilt who is 496 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: really talented. Uh d O. I'm gonna script the last name, 497 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: but Odingbo. He has a lot of talent, but he 498 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: tore his achilles, and basically Ballard said, that's Okay, even 499 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: if we read shirt him, guys don't look like this 500 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: very often on the hoof. So he got a couple 501 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: of freak daddies in Quitty and d O, and I 502 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: think he's basically saying, all right, we're gonna hit said 503 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: on that rush and see what happens. So I really 504 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: like that because I think, here, here's what I will 505 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: say about about I know he's your guy, but he 506 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: stays true to who the goats are and when you 507 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: think about their defense on the Matt Ebra Fluss, it's 508 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: about it's about hit run covers about effort and work, 509 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: and the guys that he drafted are those twitchy worker 510 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: bees off the edge and that look it matters for 511 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: all positions. He has a profile for whether he wants 512 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: on defense and they stick to that um. After watching 513 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: him conduct a handful of drafts, I automatically know guys 514 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: that fit the Coast profile. It's very clear. He's very 515 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: transparent when it comes to it, and he drafts according 516 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: to that profile. And I think that's a testament to 517 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: him because he knows exactly what he wants and he's 518 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: he's really um. And you'll like this because you follow 519 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different. You know, he's a big fan 520 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: of He's a big fan of the Rockets and Darryl 521 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: Moorey when he lived here. And then even for what 522 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: he's he's met with a lot of general managers and 523 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: aceball Um, theo Epstein, and he really finds process that 524 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: that's what he buys in the process. You got your process, 525 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: you stay true to your process, you don't panic, and 526 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: draft day is where it shows up. But he did admit, 527 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, he did admit to me the other day 528 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: that his first draft, he kind of just it was 529 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: his first draft and he just didn't he didn't do 530 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: it right. He didn't handle it right. Now. I look 531 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: at Nick as Sereo. This guy has been in draft 532 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: rooms for years and years, and I feel like in 533 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: day one he panicked. Today he got Davis Mills. I 534 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: didn't love that strategy. Then he trades up and gets 535 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: Nico Collins. I'm okay with Nico Collins personally, I like 536 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Nico Collins. But then you trade it up picks in 537 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: a draft where you don't have draft capital and you're 538 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: starting to give more picks away. So I feel like 539 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: he kind of he's gonna look back at this and say, man, 540 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: this is that. That was my first draft by myself, 541 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: and I did some things I would have I would 542 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: have done better. Uh if I had a chance. Even 543 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: Thomas R. Mittrof told us yes and down on our 544 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: on our wrap up show, he said, man, even after 545 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: all these years, you know there's things you want back. 546 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: You recognize how you you just either panic or you 547 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: don't stay treated your process, or you start reaching. And 548 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: that's what the draft can be about. Who lets the 549 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: draft come to them? I'd say the Miami Dolphins, and 550 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: then who reaches? And I thought the Texans were one 551 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: of those teams that reached a little bit, and frankly, 552 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders um have reached a little bit. Yeah. 553 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: So it's when you talk about Nick, because are you 554 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: making those decisions? Um? My buddies will always tell me 555 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a difference in being the suggestion guy and being 556 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: the decision maker. When you make suggestions, that's one thing. 557 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: When you make decisions, it's another. And tonight, Uh, Nicks, 558 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: are you learned about making decisions? You're right about the 559 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. You know who quietly has been knocking it 560 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: out the park. In my estimation, the Detroit lines have 561 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: just been getting blueship players. I like what they did. Yeah, 562 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: they did just quietly taking blueship players, just kind of 563 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: add them to the mix. You notice that, you know, 564 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: we laughed and giggled and Kiki when Dan Campbell talked 565 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: about bite kneecaps and being a physical team or whatever. 566 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: But I would say that they are sticking to the script. 567 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: I see elite Eline McNeil, big physical player. We saw 568 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Levi uh Onzarique go to him. Penney Sewell has been 569 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: a part of the squad um. I don't think it's 570 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: a coincidence that they are investing in the trenches because 571 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: you can already see whether their DNA is going to 572 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: be They're gonna be a beat you up squad, Like 573 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can get it up, but 574 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to be able to get it done. 575 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: They also got Mellon fun Will at cornerback, and so 576 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: you think about them long, big physical players. All those 577 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: guys have that toughness that you want, and so it'll 578 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: be interesting. It'll be interesting to see how the Detroit 579 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: lines put it together on the field. But right now 580 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: in the draft it looks pretty good. Well, you guys 581 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: have you're gonna wrap up the entire draft mind, they 582 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: aren't you? That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, gonna do it it. 583 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it all. But you know, Lands, before 584 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: we got there, we got the Grade. We got one 585 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: more day, one more night of recap shows and then 586 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: I think you're on there on the Grade show Sunday 587 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: with us right here. We're doing that. So we'll take 588 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: care of all of that. So we'll be back um 589 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: Draft today Saturday, after the Draft Night concert that will 590 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: be on NFL dot com, the NFL app YouTube. We 591 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: have the four recap show Sunday at three pm Eastern. 592 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: We also have four draft recaps on MTS podcast to 593 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: be out on Monday. We Got to Move the Sticks 594 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: three sixty series, which are on NFL dot Com Wednesday 595 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: May five at six, seven and eight pm. We'll talk 596 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, and Justin Fields and for more. 597 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: You can always check out our videos on NFL dot 598 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: com and YouTube dot com slash NFL podcast. 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