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Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in fineal.

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Speaker 4: Hour of the program as we come to it from

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Speaker 4: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Keeping an eye on things

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Speaker 4: in Hawaii, the tsunami warning videos starting to come out

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Speaker 4: of cars trying to get away and find their way

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Speaker 4: to better, higher, safer grounds. So thoughts and prayers with

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Speaker 4: the community there as they try to do the evacuation

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Speaker 4: plan and patience always key in these processes, but certainly

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Speaker 4: vigilance and listening to your local law enforcement and leaders

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Speaker 4: as they map out.

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Speaker 3: A plan for safety.

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Speaker 4: Waiting for this to hit the landside coming up in

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Speaker 4: the next fifteen minutes or so. Rich pretty scary moments

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Speaker 4: watching some of the videos starting to circulate in social media,

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Speaker 4: and really just the massive humanity trying to ascertain, you know,

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Speaker 4: how severe things are. And then even here we got

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Speaker 4: three hours before the estimated potential landfall in southern California,

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Speaker 4: same kind of thing, trying to ascertain. And we've got friends,

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Speaker 4: family up and down the coastline that are that are

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Speaker 4: trying to get the most information they can as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, be safe and get to higher ground if

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Speaker 6: I have some family on why.

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Speaker 5: Both on Oahu and Molokai they gotten to safety. They

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Speaker 5: and they did exactly what they were told when they

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Speaker 5: were told to. So I just wish that everybody heed

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Speaker 5: the warnings and get to wherever they can that's available

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Speaker 5: to them right now out of the flood zone or

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Speaker 5: the warning areas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it says, it's scary.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about this a little bit earlier on Mikey.

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Speaker 5: When you're living on a planet, you know, you're going

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Speaker 5: about your day to day, you're not thinking much about

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Speaker 5: what could potentially happen, you know, in terms of hurricanes

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Speaker 5: or tornadoes or tsunamis. But then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: when an emergency strikes, it's the only thing you're thinking

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Speaker 5: about because obviously your safety is the number one concern.

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Speaker 5: So we know that fear we felt it here in

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Speaker 5: southern California plenty with wildfires and earthquakes and the alike.

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Speaker 6: So we feel for you and we hope you're safe

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Speaker 6: wherever you are.

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Speaker 4: Coming off the earthquake eight point seven is the measurement

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Speaker 4: that hit near off the coast of Russia and now

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Speaker 4: making its way. So keeping an eye on this as

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Speaker 4: we do. But back to the business of sports, as

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Speaker 4: we keep our eye on this thing at Hornberger where

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Speaker 4: You evangelized to friends and family and they'll tend to

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Speaker 4: tell ten friends and so on and so on. Guy

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Speaker 4: got plenty of YouTube videos, plenty of unboxings. He's got

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Speaker 4: of the stuff that keeps showing up from colleges and

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Speaker 4: pro teams, and people, good well wishers all across the way.

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Speaker 4: It's former Buccaneers and Raiders head coach John Gruden. Go

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Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one release of a a number

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Speaker 4: of offensive emails came out that ended his coaching career

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Speaker 4: rather abruptly, some related to Demorris Smith, former head of

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Speaker 4: the NFL PA. Guy we've talked about. He's got a

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Speaker 4: He told Dave Burkett of the Detroit Free Press. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: I'm not done. I'm about to make a comeback. I'm

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Speaker 4: because I'm looking for a job. He does consulting. We've

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Speaker 3: You know, what were you seeing? What did you see?

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Speaker 4: Know, stuff that got parodied. But certainly some of the

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Speaker 4: evaluation process was very, very curious. I don't care if

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Speaker 4: I coach at Jones Junior High. I'm gonna coach again.

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Speaker 4: I'm still coaching. I'm just not on a team officially,

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Speaker 4: but I do have some private assignments I work on

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Speaker 4: that nobody knows about who I'm pulling for. Does he

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Speaker 6: It's possible, I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: It definitely has gone from in my mind's eye an

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Speaker 6: Is it probable, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I would say it depends on how desperate a coaching

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Speaker 5: departed from that scandal, it seems to sting less now,

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Speaker 5: the email, correspondences that John Gruden was caught up in with,

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Speaker 5: he was coaching out a variety of placesm namely the

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Speaker 5: these emails stemmed back. It didn't look good for John

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Speaker 5: Gruden's future. He had to go away for a little while.

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Speaker 5: And then he made a return to social media and

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Speaker 5: something I did not forecast coming. And look, this isn't

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Speaker 5: You know, so I'm this this isn't unprecedented. Obviously, that

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Speaker 5: like I said, I'm going to relegate it in the

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Speaker 3: Always a possibility.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a changing temperature on a lot

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Speaker 4: couple of years ago they were relegated to all right,

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: Does it excuse any of that because we watched it

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Speaker 4: It came and went, and so it got dredged up.

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Speaker 4: I dubbed it performative to a way, and I would

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Speaker 4: suspect if John Gruden were to be hired as something

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Speaker 4: more than a consultant, we'd see more of the same.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that there is a percentage of folks to

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Speaker 4: Cogan you know stuff didn't It doesn't go away, and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't trivialize it, and it doesn't push it down.

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Speaker 3: That's not the point.

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Speaker 4: The point is that you know, in terms of you know,

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Speaker 3: When is long enough?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: When when have you cleared whatever the air was? And

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Speaker 4: for John Gruden, I don't know what the answer to

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: We know the power of the league.

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Speaker 4: We talked about it, you know, with the Bryce Harper

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Speaker 4: Right in terms of protecting his league, protecting his.

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Speaker 4: So if they believe in any way, shape or form

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Speaker 3: But at this point he's.

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Speaker 4: Around teams, he's consulting, it's it's a short jump back

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Speaker 4: and give him that opportunity. I would also say this

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Speaker 4: for John Gruden. He had that great success, there was

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Speaker 4: That you know, we we think about the highs, uh,

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Speaker 4: So whether whether that plays a part in the decision

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think talent really dictates a lot in

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Speaker 5: our culture. I don't know about other cultures as intimately

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Speaker 5: many comparisons you can make across different genres of entertainment,

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Speaker 5: I mean, Ozzy Osbourne just passed away last week. Ozzy

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Speaker 5: Osbourne was equally loved and hated throughout the course of

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Speaker 5: were awarded to the Prince of Darkness over the course

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Speaker 5: of a long, tenured, embattled, and overwhelmingly successful career in

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Speaker 5: the public eye because talent wins.

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Speaker 6: You know how many.

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Speaker 5: Times was Ozzy arrested or almost arrested for antics?

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Speaker 4: Well, the ALMO celebrated his public urination thing and tricking out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a perfect example of something that was

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Speaker 5: deemed horribly offensive to have a foreigner desecrate a national

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Speaker 5: at the Alumo. Obviously it's a mixed history there, but

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Speaker 5: my point being, like Ozzy Osbourne was lionized, and actually tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: The last couple of headlines for the league. Last night,

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Speaker 4: you had a player's wig came off Kalia Copper and

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Speaker 4: she ran to the locker room. There was a pause

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Speaker 4: in the action and then someone mocked it and got

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Speaker 4: thrown out.

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Speaker 3: So there's a headline.

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Speaker 4: Today there was a play suspended late in the game

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Speaker 4: because a glow in the dark adult novelty found its

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Speaker 4: way to the court and had to be investigated. Those

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Speaker 4: are the headlines more so than the the actual play

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Speaker 4: at times. So that's the tough side of it as well. Right,

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Speaker 4: for all the successes, some of the great performances that

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Speaker 4: we've seen across the league and the number of star

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Speaker 4: players that were there before Caitlin Clark and now play

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Speaker 4: alongsider is that there's certainly going to be a lot

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Speaker 4: of entities and media outlets that are going to be

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Speaker 4: looking for the downside of things.

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Speaker 3: Me, I'm just trying to think of what her wrestling

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Speaker 3: name would be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you already copped super Nova for yourself, which

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Speaker 4: is pretty good. Yeah, I don't know that there's one. Historically,

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Speaker 4: I'll have to go back into the archives watching.

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Speaker 3: This stuff a long time. Rich, I don't remember that one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's uh again, like that would just

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Speaker 5: sort of appeared in my brain as soon as you

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Speaker 5: ask the questions. So with a little bit more work,

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Speaker 5: if it is a homework assignment, and if need be

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Speaker 5: for another fill and night, I'll give you a list.

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Speaker 5: But but yeah, it's for Sophie Cunning him, it could

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Speaker 5: be something that includes the adjective cunning.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I mean off the top of my head.

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Speaker 5: Maybe she could just be self named until she's she's

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Speaker 5: officially indoctrinated.

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Speaker 6: But but but can.

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Speaker 4: You give yourself a nickname like Travis Hunter did call

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Speaker 4: himself the Unicorn.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the Unicorn. I love that so much, gosh, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean because that's like one of those like almost like

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Speaker 5: an uh hotmail email address that you gave yourself when

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Speaker 5: you were like sixteen years old that you really regret

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Speaker 5: later in life. Like I have a feeling, true, I

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Speaker 5: have a feeling Hunter later in life is not gonna

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Speaker 5: want to go by the unicorn at some point. I

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Speaker 5: feel like, you know when when you're when you're sixteen

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Speaker 5: years old and you you make yourself and I'm really

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Speaker 5: dating myself here, but like an AOL instant Messenger name,

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Speaker 5: and then.

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Speaker 6: You grow up and you look back on those times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, mistakes were made, but I digress to

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Speaker 5: point out, you know, you made a really good point

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Speaker 5: about the w the w NBA. The headlines often do

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Speaker 5: not reflect how competitive.

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Speaker 6: Of a league it is.

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Speaker 5: And if I'm being one hundred percent truthful, and I

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Speaker 5: try always to be when I'm talking about all sports,

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Speaker 5: I don't know a lot about that league. I know

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Speaker 5: as much as I have availed to myself, which is

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Speaker 5: admittedly very little. I don't watch it on a nightly basis.

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Speaker 5: I'm not particularly interested in women's basketball. Kaitlyn Clark is

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Speaker 5: the number one reason why I've turned on WNBA games.

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Speaker 5: She is the number one reason why I talk about

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Speaker 5: the wire. I'm interested in her. But you're one hundred

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Speaker 5: percent right, Mike. I mean, most of the headlines I

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Speaker 5: read about WNBA are almost like side show fashion. Something

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Speaker 5: gets thrown onto the court, there's an on court altercation

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Speaker 5: between Kaitlyn Clark and another player. There's you know, a

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Speaker 5: call for these players to you know, make more money,

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Speaker 5: and they're wearing T shirts at the All Star Game

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Speaker 5: and things of that nature, and it's like not a

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Speaker 5: lot of it is about the actual sport itself or

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Speaker 5: consideration for the competitive nature of the league.

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Speaker 6: It's it's for the side show that sort of follows it.

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Speaker 4: No, that's the thing, trying to push the ladder away

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Speaker 4: and get back to the powers that be in terms

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Speaker 4: of better play and storylines, Page Becker's coming up, and

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Speaker 4: all of these others. Cameron Brink getting back into action

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Speaker 4: tonight after missing a year, the Sparks playing better of late,

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Speaker 4: trying to get back into.

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Speaker 3: The playoff bix.

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Speaker 4: I mean there are there are a bunch of storylines,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, it's the macro and micro kind of spears

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Speaker 4: in terms of where the league is in trying to

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Speaker 4: get to that next level of growth and the eyeball

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Speaker 4: retention that came with Caitlin Clark's arrival.

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Speaker 3: He's Rich Orenberger on Mike Rmon.

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Speaker 4: It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 4: Jason will be back tomorrow night, Doctor Rich kind of

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Speaker 4: enough to stay up late with us here in the

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio studios. Now, let's turn it over to

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Speaker 4: Steve Desaga for the final time tonight. Get an update

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Speaker 4: on all the action that went down. I'm sure I'll

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Speaker 4: hear Schwarber's home run again. And Andrew Vaughn and how many

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Speaker 4: other ex White Sox guys or guys that came back

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Speaker 4: to crush me are gonna be mentioned today?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you mentioned WNBA. There was that big Sunday National

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Speaker 7: TV matchup Indiana one at Chicago. Kayln Clark with no

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Speaker 7: timetable for a return with a groin injury and Angel

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Speaker 7: Reeves was out. They still got a million and a

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Speaker 7: half hours.

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Speaker 6: You really a for that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there were.

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Speaker 7: Three games tonight, wins for Golden States and Washington which

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Speaker 7: beat Chicago. Angel Reefs returned after missing the previous two

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Speaker 7: games with the bad back. She had twenty two points

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Speaker 7: thirteen rebounds in defeat in LA. Cameron Brink returned after

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Speaker 7: missing over a year with the torn ACL did not start,

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Speaker 7: had five points in fourteen minutes off the bench. Her

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Speaker 7: team was already down twenty six to nine by the

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Speaker 7: time she entered off the bench. Asia Wilson had started

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Speaker 7: eight of age shooting, finished with thirty four points. Las

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Speaker 7: Vegas wins at LA eighty nine to seventy four. Speaking

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Speaker 7: of injuries, Brianna Stewart, New York Star, was out on

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Speaker 7: Monday with a leg injury. Everything final in Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 7: the Padres beat the Mets seven to one. The Mets

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Speaker 7: lead in the NLS down to a half game over

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Speaker 7: the Phillies, and the Mets Juan Soto left after he

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Speaker 7: fouled the ball off his foot. It is called a bruise.

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Speaker 7: Manny Machado three run homer. The Angels beat Texas eight

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Speaker 7: to five. A's over Seattle six to one. The A's

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Speaker 7: placed All Star shortstop Jacob Wilson on the injured list

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Speaker 7: with a broken arm. The Giants record since acquiring Rafael

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Speaker 7: Devers not good. He was acquired in trade last month,

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Speaker 7: since his first game was San Francisco, they actually had

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Speaker 7: the worst record in the Majors. The Giants lost their

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Speaker 7: fifth straight game tonight, gave up two runs in the eighth.

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Speaker 7: Pirates three to won the final at San Francisco. So

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Speaker 7: while Pittsburgh has won seven of eight, the Giants have

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Speaker 7: dropped eleven of thirteen, and the Giants offense went two

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Speaker 7: for twenty seven tonight. Justin Verlander no decision, pitching five innings.

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Speaker 7: He's won in eight this year. It was Houston ending

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Speaker 7: a five game losing streak beating Washington seven to four.

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Speaker 7: Houston's the first place team in the Aost four games

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Speaker 7: over the Mariners, Texas five back. Miami beats Saint Louis

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Speaker 7: and Sunny Gray five nothing, Philadelphia six' three over The White.

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Speaker 7: Sox Kyle schwarber hit his thirty seventh. Homer Kansas city

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Speaker 7: Over atlanta nine to. Six the brave starter was the

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Speaker 7: newly Acquired eric Fetti is now three and, eleven And

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Speaker 7: Ronald acunye Of atlanta left this game with achilles. Tightness

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Speaker 7: he is in a walking. Boot The royals designated Pitcher

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Speaker 7: Rich hill for Assignmon twins Outfielder Byron buxton placed on

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Speaker 7: the aisle with ribcage. Inflammation minnesota is beaten at home

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Speaker 7: By boston eight to. Five Former White sox Pitcher Lucas

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Speaker 7: giolito now seven and two for The Red, sox going

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Speaker 7: six innings for the.

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Speaker 3: Win here the hits just keep on.

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Speaker 7: Coming At, Milwaukee andrew come On dex of The White

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Speaker 7: sox six, RBIs including a grand. Slam brewers beat The

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Speaker 7: cubs again nine to. Three Quinn priester ten and two

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Speaker 7: got the. Win Jackson. Churio The brewers did leave with

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Speaker 7: a bad, hamstring but the Brew crew up two games

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Speaker 7: over The. Cubs now in THE Nl Central dodgers came

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Speaker 7: back to win At cincinnati five to, four got a

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Speaker 7: run in the top of the. Ninth yankees Beat Tampa

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Speaker 7: the victory wins For detroit And, cleveland And baltimore's won

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Speaker 7: five straight after sweeping a twin bill From. Toronto bengals

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Speaker 7: defensive End Trey henrickson will likely report to training camp

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Speaker 7: finally On wednesday's been holding out for a new, contract

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Speaker 7: which he does not have at this. Point ravens tight

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Speaker 7: End isaiah likely will miss a few weeks after rolling

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Speaker 7: his ankle at. Practice The jets signed veteran Kicker Nick.

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Speaker 7: Folk and women's soccer ON fs, one A Copa america

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Speaker 7: final Is saturday ON fs. One and by the, way

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Speaker 7: with The Men's World cup up being co hosted by

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Speaker 7: THE us next, Summer Las vegas reportedly will be Hosting

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Speaker 7: december's draw for next Year's World.

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Speaker 4: Cup schedule back to, You they're gonna put it in a.

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Speaker 4: Hopper maybe make it part of a roulette. TABLE i,

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Speaker 4: mean what are we talking here?

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Speaker 7: Saying do draw out the little plastic balls with a

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Speaker 7: in THE us. Group remember it's an Expanded World cup this.

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Speaker 7: Year already two, teams it's forty, eight let's. Go so you,

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Speaker 7: know you may not think one of them all is,

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Speaker 7: good and they're, not but they're still alive to be

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Speaker 7: in That World cup next.

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Speaker 4: SUMMER i don't, know polistic doing a lot a lot

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Speaker 4: of talking for a guy sitting on his ass right.

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Speaker 7: NOW i didn't see hide or hair of him on

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Speaker 7: the pitch this.

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Speaker 3: Summer here you, Go thanks so.

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Speaker 4: Much Steve disager at the news desk a, legend and

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Speaker 4: you can tell how much he hates me with the

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Speaker 4: number of Ex White sox. Players, now good that we're

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Speaker 3: Break he's Rich Or berger in For Jason. Smith I'll Mike.

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Speaker 4: Garmin, hey anybody got two undred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: Help be sure to catch live editions Of The Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith show With Mike harmon weekdays at ten Pm eastern

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