WEBVTT - RICHARD MARX 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.440 With me in the studio for this podcast Loves Someone 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.080 with Delilah is the amazing Richard Marks and uh my 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.280 podcast producer Diana just said, why aren't we rolling tape 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.160 on this because this is such good stuff. It's all 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:26.360 downhill from here. We said all the good stuff before. Yeah, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.200 dang it, dang it, um, But on this podcast, I 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.200 not only want to talk about your music, your music history, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.320 you're writing your life. I want to talk about the 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.800 ways that you are changing the world for good. That's 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.240 a lot of pressure. 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In the 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:51.240 studio loves Someone with Delilah with Richard Marx, and all 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.440 week long people have said, sir Richard Marx is coming 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:55.920 to your farm, and I'm like, yes, and I'm gonna 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.680 be right here waiting for him. And I'm like, I 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.600 bet you've heard that like five hundred million bazillion times 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.400 I have. And it never gets old, especially even now. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.920 Did Daisy say that when you guys met, No, but 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.400 after we got married. It was really after we get married, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.600 almost four years ago that she started doing that all 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.040 the time, and it really doesn't get old. So, like, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.360 we'll be out somewhere and she'll go, I just need 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.400 to run into Ralph's to get some spinach for okay, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.359 and I'll pull up, or if I have to run 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.760 an errand or something, and she's She'll go, I'll be 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.000 right here waiting for you. That's her. Just look at 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.200 herund that it never gets old, never gets old. Yeah. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.079 But when I say, it's a little different than when 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.240 the most beautiful woman in the world that you're married, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:47.079 she really she I get speechless, you know, talking about 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.720 her even now and you've been married four years. How 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.240 long did you date before? Not that long, maybe a 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.560 year and a half. How long after you met Daisy 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.480 one days? By the way, if you went and looked 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.480 at my closet, you would notice that I have a 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.840 lot of the dresses that she's designed. Her. Her brand 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.800 has been on fire for fifteen years. Yeah. I don't 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.880 know why I don't look like she looked like, uh, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.040 you know, what's up with that? But um, how long 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.800 after you met the most beautiful woman in the world, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.040 Richard Marks, did you know you were going to, like, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.280 I want to spend the rest of your life with her? Well, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.160 I mean, you know, our trajectory was a little complicated 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.080 because I actually talked to her on the phone twenty 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.240 five years ago. Briefly, she was supposed to interview me 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.800 on MTV. You know, she was on MTV for many years, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.680 and I always, like everybody else, I had a crush 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.320 on her, you know, from Afar. I thought she was 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.760 a girl crush on her, Yeah, most of most of 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.840 them are most of the women in my life have 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.119 a crush on days. So, you know, she's obviously physically beautiful, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.960 but there were even back then. I remember when I 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.760 would see her on MTV, I would think she's just cool, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.800 like she would be fun to hang out with. But 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.440 it was that was it because I was married for 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.800 you know, hundred years, and from the time I was one, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.520 I was with my ex wife and and so there 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.480 was never like, you know, it was just a crush. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.119 It a little crush. But we spoke on the phone 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.720 because she was supposed to interview me and something happened, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.080 and so we talked in the phone for like a minute. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:23.000 Flash forward to I'm single for half a second, and 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.400 I did a gig in l A and she that's 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.240 where I met her. And when she walked backstage, which 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.240 she she usually doesn't do the backstage thing, um, but 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.039 she walked into the room. And this sounds so sappy, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.440 but it's really like that. It was the moment. Despite 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.400 all the songs I've written, I never really believed in 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.320 love at first sight or any of that stuff, even 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.840 though you wrote about it, and I've played all those 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.719 songs all those years, and there are aspects, of course 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.520 to a lot of the relationship songs that I've written 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.960 that I stand behind, but a lot of it is 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.520 also just sort of you write about what you hope 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.680 and what you wish. You know, I didn't believe in that, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.200 because it just seems so ridiculous. You can't know that. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.200 All I can tell you is when when I first 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:13.080 saw her, when she walked through the door, what happened 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.719 to me physically was I just remember thinking my life 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.479 is different now, and no matter what would have happened, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.880 there was something just so electric about that moment her 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.960 walking towards me and we met. And what's really amazing 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.839 is it was at a at this gig in l 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.600 A at the Grammy Museum. So there's actually there was 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.880 a Getty photographer. There's a photo of the minute we met. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.520 Did he get the look on your face? Did he 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.000 get he just it's a sweet smile, but for both 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.200 of us, but you know, we literally, you know, hugged 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:47.400 and then the guy said, hey, can I get a 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.680 picture of you guys? And we turned and so we 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.839 had there's that photograph and it was you know, we said, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.040 how could we not have met all these years? Well, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.080 the thing that's amazing about her is that, um, we 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.560 exchanged numbers and I started to I was like, oh 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.520 my god, she she's just extraordinary and she's this and 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.640 she's like, I've got to get to know her. And 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.279 we started to hang out a little bit. But she 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.360 was so smart that she knew I was coming out 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.000 of a really, really long marriage and that I'd never 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.760 been single in my adult life, and she made me 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.720 be single for a while. She kind of shut us down. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.279 She was like, you need to know what it's like 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:28.680 to be single. You've never experienced that. And she's like, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.359 I hope it doesn't ultimately blow up on my face, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.680 but I can't just sort of dive into a relationship 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.000 knowing that you've never had that experience and you need 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.680 to go hang out. And I was like, I don't 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.440 want to. I Like, she was like, why would I 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.120 ever look at another woman when I You've got me 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.840 the heart, mind, body, and so it was brilliant and 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.400 I reluctant, Like she really kind of gave me no choice. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.000 She kind of just said, you know, I love hanging 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.240 out with you, but you you need to you need 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:57.840 to go play the field. You need to play the field. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.120 You need to know what it's like to be on 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.160 your own and Engleland, and so she kind of we 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.440 we That was about eight nine months and them, little 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.000 by little we started to reintroduce ourselves to each other. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.040 And that was really cool because it wasn't just sort 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.120 of like a full on dating thing. We were we 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.040 then got to know that she started to court her. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.240 It sounds like, well, I always courted her. I was 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.520 always into into that, but there was something about like 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.520 when we reconnected eight or nine months later, it was 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:35.400 really through sending each other links to thoughtful ideas and 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.600 lectures and quotes, and it was that kind of courting. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.120 It was like we were we were connecting in a 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.240 way like like how can we help each other as 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.080 human beings because we really like each other, we really 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.400 really care for each other, and we were both on 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.200 this journey of exploration, which we're still on together as 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.000 a married couple. And it was really kind of cool. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:05.760 Plus Martinis, it was pretty and Martini's wow, Uh, so 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.360 you reconnected and you started this courtship and then how 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.000 long was it before you walked down the aisle. Oh, well, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.120 so we had sort of decided. I felt like we 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.880 had decided that we didn't need to get married. In fact, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.760 we both talked a lot about how we thought that 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.080 marriage was kind of dumb. It says he who has 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.680 a wedding ring on right. But I will say this, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.040 one thing I did learn, at least in my experience 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.720 with all the people that I know whose stories I 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.200 really know, is that there seems to almost always be 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:43.439 some agenda two two people getting married by one person 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.920 or the other. Either it's financial security, or it's I 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.360 want to have a baby, or it's I don't want 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.000 to be alone, I don't want to grow old alone. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.880 And where there is even the most kind sweet it's 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.840 still an agenda. It's still I need something from that person, 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.840 and a contractual obligation like a marriage will will get 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.760 me what I'm after. It's really true. And so we 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.440 were fine. We were really having a great time. You know, 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.520 we adopted a couple of dogs and and we were 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:18.280 just great. And then it hit me. We took this trip. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.160 I was performing in Singapore. I had a private show 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.160 in Singapore on a Saturday night, and a week later 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.480 I had a public show and a beautiful venue the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.920 following Saturday, and so we spent the weekend between in 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.280 the Maldives. We've never been there before, and we traveled 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.360 really well together, and we had this blissful week. And 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.880 I remember coming back to Singapore thinking I want her 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.280 to be my family. But there was just something about 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:49.320 like I want to marry her for the only reason 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.840 that I think you should, which is like there's no reason. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.920 I just want her to be family, you know. And 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.640 I decided that I was going to propose when we 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.440 got back from this trip, and it was the day 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:05.760 the next day, and I remember saying, um, you know 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.600 when it she opened the the ringbox. She was so 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.160 shocked she couldn't breathe. So the first thing I said 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.040 was breath. You can breathe, I said. And I just 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.320 want you to know there's no wrong answer. I would 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.400 love to marry you, but if this is not something 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.120 you want to do, or you want to you don't 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.920 want to change what we are, I'm totally fine either way, 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.920 You're it's all good. And she took a minute and 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.000 she said the most amazing thing to me. She said, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.720 I decided a long time ago that I never wanted 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.480 to be married, but I want to be married to you. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.520 And so we got married a month later. We were 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.800 actually um, this was in December. We were we were 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.959 going to have all of our family together over the 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.400 holidays in Aspen. We rented a house and askedpen to 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.319 spend Christmas with our families. And so she said, you're 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.280 really serious about this because we could just do it 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.080 at the house over the holiday. I said great. And 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.440 her sister gras an of got ordained in the state 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:06.480 of Colorado and she married us. Sweet. Yeah, it's awesome, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.160 sweet sweet sweet. So yeah, we're coming up on four 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:15.000 years married and you have children that are older. How 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.280 did they how did they take to step mom being 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.559 the most beautiful woman in the world. Well, I mean 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.080 as they as they got to know Daisy as far 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:30.200 as my boys, you know, they obviously are protective of me, um, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.200 and they sussed it out pretty quickly. And so they 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.800 had gotten to know her for several months. And and 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.040 we had a birthday party from my mom, her eightieth birthday, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.360 and we were toasting her and celebrating stuff, and then 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.560 my oldest son, Brandon said, I just want to make 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.080 one more toast and he said, I want to make 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.199 a toast to Daisy because I've never seen my father 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.360 so happy. And they've all it all started with that. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.199 They started they saw, you know, my my middle son, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.760 Lucas and I. He's going kind of going through some 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.760 personal stuff right now with his relationships, and um, he's 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:10.160 a really thoughtful, amazing man, young man, and he's really 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:15.880 fascinated with the concept of changing your behavior there there. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.959 You know, there's the argument that some people go it 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.160 just just can't be done, and I believe I completely 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.080 disagree with that, you know, And we were kind of 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.200 going back and forth like do you ever really change? 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.880 Are people really? Um? Did they have the potential to 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.400 really change? And Lucas said, and every time I have 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.480 that question, I think of you. And he said, you're 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:39.440 a different man than you were before. And I don't 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.480 mean that in any um pejorative or negative way about 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.240 my ex wife, who's a wonderful person. It was me. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.000 It was like I wasn't I wasn't living my true self. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.480 And what my sons now have now been seeing for 0:12:54.559 --> 0:13:00.520 five years is this other aspect of me that's fleetly 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:05.160 authentic that they have gotten even closer to my relationship 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.079 with my sons has never been better, and it would 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.800 be a drag, but it would be doable. If they 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.280 didn't if they didn't really get along that well with Daisy, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.920 we would deal with it, right. But they've become such 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.319 close friends with her, and they, like I do, they 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.160 admire Daisy and respect her like I do, but they 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.080 also just love they love hanging out with her because 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.760 she's so freaking fun. It's just we we as a 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.840 as the new version of this family, just have a blast. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.199 So what are some of the fun things Like if 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.320 if somebody were to peek into your life and see 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.600 like the crazy stupid fun things that you and Daisy 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.280 or you're you and Daisy and the boys are you 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.160 and your mom like to do? What would be a 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.880 window into that that somebody might be shocked at. It's 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.520 not crazy stupid stuff. It's stuff like, uh okay, Like 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.760 a month ago, I was getting ready to go on 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.400 the road and we hadn't had a We try to 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.160 have a family dinner of some kind at least every week, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.600 but that wasn't happening for a while. So we finally 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.000 got all the boys together to come over with my mom, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.560 who's four, but like super cool um, and we had 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.840 a really nice dinner and then Daisy surprised us with 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.960 this game. Well, we went into the living room and 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:31.720 she said, everybody's gonna write down one word to describe 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.080 that person, and then one word to describe that person, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.680 and we're gonna so it became this game where it became. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.960 It was hilarious, but it was It's those kind of things, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:48.720 like it's more thoughtful. What's the right word, it's real, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.880 Like we really really talk about real stuff. We don't 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.760 talk about Game of Thrones, you know. We talked about 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.400 life and helping each other. And that's really taken a 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.760 hugely forward since Daisy and I got married in terms 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.680 of the whole family. Authentic. I like that you use 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:13.960 that word earlier, authentic. Can you imagine if everybody would 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.160 take off the mask and stop hiding and stop pretending 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:22.280 and being whatever they're not, whatever they think they're supposed 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:27.000 to be, and instead we're just authentic. Well it's harder now, especially, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.840 I think, because you know, things like Instagram have made 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.640 it that much more difficult to be just sort of 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:38.320 who you are because the competition for people put on 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.000 themselves to be I'm not. I'm not having as good 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.000 a life as they are on Instagram. Yeah, but if 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.080 you saw their real life, you'd be like, oh wow, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.240 well it's funny, you should say. Because our listeners can't 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.040 see this. But on your phone case has a gorgeous 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.560 picture of your wife, Daisy Fuentes. I mean, she's so 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.560 it looks like it should be on a billboard. It's beautiful. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.680 And the first thing I thought when I saw that 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.840 is that would be really funny. One of those pinterests fails, 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:11.520 you know, if I tried to get the same here's 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.960 Daisy's flintas wearing this this fish net outfit, and here's 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:22.400 the But that was my thought because, like you said, competition. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.520 My instant thought was that kind of I I don't 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.720 wake up looking that gorgeous. Not that not that I 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.840 don't love myself and love that what God made, because 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.880 I do. And I'm much more comfortable in my skin 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.320 today than I ever have been in my life. Um, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.800 And I praise God. I thank God for the life 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.640 that I have and and the body that I have. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.640 And I got a new hip so I can walk, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.920 and I have to ride horses, and and and isn't 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.080 it amazing to be able to do stuff without pain. Gosh, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.400 you know I got I got both my hips replaced 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.480 it when I was fifty one, so like four or 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.080 five years ago, and it was like life. Yeah. I 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.000 had to use the cart at the grocery store. Oh wow, Yeah, 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.320 I could not walk. So I am. I am happy 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.520 as can be with the body of But back to 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.200 your point that it is very hard to be authentic 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.919 in a world where everything is captured, videotaped, everything is instagrammed, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:25.640 everything is face tuned, everything is an image, a brand, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:32.200 the Richard Marks brand, instead of you your music. We're 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.080 going to take a quick break here to talk about 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.399 one of our sponsors. So let's talk about your music. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.800 Because I was mentioning before. I have been on the 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:50.400 air full time since nineteen nievable. Yeah, and I've been 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:55.680 doing this show since nine. Wow. I think I've played 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.280 every song you've You've ever readden a part of well 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.560 you definitely play every song I recorded, because I didn't 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.479 start recording until seven. But the first song I wrote 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:11.360 that someone else recorded I was nineteen or twenty. Kenny Rogers, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.560 Kim Karnes and James Ingram in a song called what 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.600 about Me? What about Me? This is They wouldn't. There 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.440 were a bunch of stations in the South that wouldn't 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.000 play it because it was a love triangle between Kenny 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.080 Rogers and James Ingram and Kim Carnes, and there were 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.840 a bunch of Southern stations and said, we're not going 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.439 to play a song between a white man and a 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.560 black man over a white woman. That's still how screwed 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.040 up it was. Yeah, yeah, you you must have played 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.000 you know, every single, every yeah, and I played them 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.320 on vinyl when I was playing damn right, you did 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:46.200 yeah with a penny on the needle. So you didn't 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.639 start recording until seven. But how many hits did you 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.879 write before then? A few because you worked with in sync. 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.320 Oh that was way after Yeah, yeah, that was in 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.639 the nineties. So I wrote what About Me with Kenny 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.760 Rogers and David Foster, and then I wrote a song 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:10.720 with Kenny called Crazy I guess sound Crazy Ready for you. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.920 I'm still in touch with Kenny Rogers, but I love 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.880 Kenny Rogers And that song went to number one Country 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.680 Top five A c in like that would have been 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.240 eighty four as well. And then just some random song 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.000 I wrote a song on a Chicago album. I wrote 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.240 a song with Philip Bailey for the movie The Goonies. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.080 And and I was making a living as a songwriter, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.719 but mostly as a background singer. So I sang on 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.520 a ton of records you played before I had a 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.320 record deal. I sang on all night long by Lionel Richie. 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.560 I sang out all the Lionel Richie hits. I kissed 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.080 Lionel Richiel. Did you He's the coolest, He's so cool, 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.720 he is so cool him. Yeah, we had a moment. Yeah, 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.439 well it was it was an autograph line, but for 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.840 me it was a moment. Yeah. He uh. You know. 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.720 I've told the story many times, but when I was 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.879 eighteen years old, I had written four or five songs. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.679 I was living in Chicago with my parents. I was 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.120 in my senior year of high school, and I had 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.040 written my first four or five songs that I thought 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.919 were worthy of at least demoing. And I found a 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.480 studio and I paid for it, of course, by myself, 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.200 with my savings. And I made this demo tape cassette 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.880 which went from a friend of mine in college who 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:25.520 was a year ahead of me. And I was in 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.800 college to his roommate, to another guy, to another guy 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.800 who was working with the Commodores at the time. This 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.000 is right as Lionel was just about to go solo, 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.320 and the phone rings and it's Lionel Richie, and you 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.280 were eighteen. I was eighteen, maybe seventeen actually, because I yeah, 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.119 I gret I was still seventeen when I gradually. I 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.919 was seventeen and in my senior year of high school. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.199 And he said, I heard this tape of yours and 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.520 my phone number was written and pencil on the back. 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.680 He called the number and he just called to tell 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.479 me that he thought I was really talented and then 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.480 I should give it a shot. And he said, look, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.320 I have no work for you. I don't I can't promise. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.360 I'm not here to promise you anything. I just want 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.200 to tell you, you know, I hear tapes all the time, 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.360 and if these are your first, this is your first 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.359 batch of songs. May you should hear my first songs? 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.000 They sucked? And I just you know, you should move 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.800 to l A. I don't know what your plans are. 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.119 Your parents are gonna probably hate me, but you know, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.800 because I was thinking about going to Northwestern and going 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.439 and my bailed and my parents were like, go go 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.000 to l A and try. He can always go back 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.480 to school of you know, And so he said, but 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.000 look me up if you come out to l A. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.920 He gave me his number and so year year and 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:36.600 changed later tude, I come out wait and he invites 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.520 me over to the studio. He's making his solo record. 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:40.520 And I'm sitting in the studio and I, first of all, 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:41.919 I was just so thrilled to meet him, and he 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.840 was so he's such a charming guy. And I'm sitting 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.160 there watching them. They're doing background vocals on this song 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.959 called You Are, which became a huge hit for him, right, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:54.800 and they were really struggling with the blend. He couldn't 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.040 find the sound that he was looking for, And all 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.520 of a sudden he looked through the glass at me 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.600 any point and he come out here. I go out 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.720 there and he's you sing my part that I was singing, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.880