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Speaker 1: With me in the studio for this podcast Loves Someone

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Speaker 1: with Delilah is the amazing Richard Marks and uh my

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Speaker 1: on this because this is such good stuff. It's all

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Speaker 1: downhill from here. We said all the good stuff before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dang it, dang it, um, But on this podcast, I

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Speaker 1: not only want to talk about your music, your music history,

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Speaker 1: you're writing your life. I want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: ways that you are changing the world for good. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. I don't know that I am,

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Speaker 1: but I'm certainly giving in a the old college try.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all that and so

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Speaker 1: much more with Richard Marks. Right now, We're gonna just

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Speaker 1: studio loves Someone with Delilah with Richard Marx, and all

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Speaker 1: week long people have said, sir Richard Marx is coming

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Speaker 1: to your farm, and I'm like, yes, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be right here waiting for him. And I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: bet you've heard that like five hundred million bazillion times

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Speaker 1: I have. And it never gets old, especially even now.

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Speaker 1: Did Daisy say that when you guys met, No, but

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Speaker 1: after we got married. It was really after we get married,

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Speaker 1: almost four years ago that she started doing that all

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Speaker 1: But when I say, it's a little different than when

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful woman in the world that you're married,

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Speaker 1: she really she I get speechless, you know, talking about

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Speaker 1: her even now and you've been married four years. How

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Speaker 1: long did you date before? Not that long, maybe a

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Speaker 1: year and a half. How long after you met Daisy

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Speaker 1: lot of the dresses that she's designed. Her. Her brand

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Speaker 1: Richard Marks, did you know you were going to, like,

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Speaker 1: I want to spend the rest of your life with her? Well,

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Speaker 1: Offerson was on as well, but um and so I'm

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00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: on stage and it was such a magical gig and

430
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: then watching Barbara do her thing was amazing. And I

431
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: get back to the dressing room and there's a text

432
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: on my phone from Lionel and the text says, I'm

433
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: sitting on my hotel balcony listening to you sing right

434
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: here waiting, and I'm so proud view I mean, that's

435
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: thirty seven years later, how sweet. And I texted I

436
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: was like, dude, where are you. Let's go to dinner.

437
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: He said, I'm getting ready to go to the airport.

438
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: But he said, I'm I'm sitting here and I'm listening

439
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: to you sing to these, you know, ten thousand people

440
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: in London and I'm just so proud of you. So

441
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: go back the thirty six years to when you were

442
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: a teenage kid and he called you and encouraged you

443
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: in your music, and then the gift of time he

444
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: poured into you in the studio and you know, I

445
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: wrote a book about it. I talked about it on

446
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: my show every night, the importance of changing the world

447
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: one heart at a time. And I had a friend

448
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: in my kitchen the other day said, I finally got it.

449
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: She said, I finally got it. I said, what she goes,

450
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: this whole one heart at a time thing you're talking about.

451
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: She had been with me when I was interacting with

452
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: some of my adopted kids and some other children that

453
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: our family has kind of taken in, and she said,

454
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: when you pour yourself into one person, it makes a difference. Yeah,

455
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: that's that's my whole message right there, into one person

456
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: like Lionel Richie did for you. The impact that has

457
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: it's like that ripple, you know, the pebble in the pond.

458
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: The ripples go out forever. That impact, his impact and

459
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: influence on your music, your impact and your music's influence

460
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: on generations of people. It just grows and builds and

461
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: and it's the essence, I believe, of love and the

462
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: reason we're here. Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean you can

463
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: imagine when you're especially at that sort of age of

464
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen, to have someone like him say that

465
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: to me, it was like a rocket, confidence and hope,

466
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: like the fuel that that gave me was life changing,

467
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: and I have the only thing I've been able to

468
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: do for him for Lionel is tell these stories. I

469
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: want everybody to know. I I tell everybody who will

470
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: listen with the best part about being friendly with Lionel

471
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: richees when you call him and he picks up and

472
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: he goes, hello, God, he's so cute. So for years

473
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: I've got to play your music, and now you're back

474
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: in the studio recording again. Tell me about your new stuff,

475
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: because my producer Janey came to me a couple of

476
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: months ago and was so excited that I love that.

477
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: I love that anybody cares. At this point, you know,

478
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: it's well, that's the cool thing about the fact that

479
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I still get to be on the

480
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: air because I've I've seen I know the stories, I've

481
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: seen the history. I watched Daisy Fuentas back in the

482
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: day when I had a TV on I haven't had

483
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: a TV for twenty years. For you, we didn't. We

484
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: never watched TV. But having that history and loving your

485
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: music really cool. Well, you know, I got to a

486
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: point in the last ten years i'd say where I

487
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: sort of um, I felt like touring and playing concerts

488
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: is really what my career is and for as long

489
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: as I'm able to do it. Um, I really am

490
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: a believer that records and putting song that's on the

491
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: radio and all that stuff. It's really for younger people.

492
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: But the conflict was that I, you know, I still

493
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: write songs all the time, and I love and I

494
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: love making new music and I love making records. But

495
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I did get to a point where it was a

496
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: little bit like, what's like why why you know? Um?

497
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: I have a couple of acquaintances who are sort of

498
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: peers of mine, who were around the same age or

499
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: older than me, that were popular when I was popular

500
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: on the radio, and they still have this what I

501
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: consider a delusion of I'm gonna have another number one record.

502
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna and it's like, dude, no, you're not. And

503
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 1: it's okay because you had a lot of hits. And

504
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: I feel like once I determined that it really just

505
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: has to be about my love of writing and recording

506
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: new music and that's all that matters, then it was like, okay, well,

507
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: I want to make an album. Actually, this is another

508
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: great story. I found myself at a dinner at a

509
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: really small dinner six or eight months ago with Chris Martin.

510
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: And I've never met him before, and I'm a fan.

511
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Coldplay and what he does,

512
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and he's a really really at least from my one

513
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: couple hour hang with him, he was really charming and

514
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: kind and and we had a couple of really great conversations.

515
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: And he asked me, so, so, I know you're touring

516
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: all the time, but like, are you making a new

517
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: record or anything. I said, yeah, I just I'm finishing

518
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: a new album and and I said, you know, I

519
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: don't know what it means for somebody like me, but

520
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: and so then somebody started talking and the conversation shifted

521
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: for five or ten minutes, and I could see Chris's

522
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: face like like, look at me, like we're not done

523
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: with that conversation. Sure enough, politely he got out of

524
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: that conversation and said to me, can I go back

525
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: to what you were saying, like, I'll tell you what

526
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: it means for you. It's still coming through you. And

527
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: it's like he said, I'm sure when you started writing

528
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: songs it was about Yeah, you had a lot to prove,

529
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: and you've had an incredible career, but it's still about

530
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the songs still come through us. Like, as long as

531
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: the songs are still coming through us, that's what matters.

532
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: And here's this guy that's, you know, much younger than

533
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I am. Then it was a really kind sweet thing

534
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: to say, and it was like, yeah, man, yes, that's

535
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: exactly what it's about. And so what this new music

536
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: is about is me just going in and having fun

537
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: and recording. And you know, the song, the single another

538
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: One Down, I ended up writing with my son Lucas

539
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: and he produced it. Um I wrote another song with him.

540
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: I wrote several songs by myself, which I have traditionally done.

541
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Most of my stuff has been self written. But I

542
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: collaborated with some new people on this record too, which

543
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: was really really fun young songwriters. And and my friend

544
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: Matt Scandal from the band Vertical Horizon is my best

545
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: friend but also I think one of the most talented

546
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: guys in the world. And and it's a very schizophrenic album,

547
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: like there's there's stuff that's sort of like modern country,

548
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: and then there's stuff that's like super modern pop, and

549
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: then there's like it's all over the place. But the

550
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: thread is my voice and it's just a collection of songs.

551
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I really really love that. I want people to hear

552
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: simple as that very cool. That is pretty simple but

553
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: pretty sweet. And I'm glad that that you got another

554
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: one down to get to us so that we could

555
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: share it with our And I love that you guys

556
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: played it, that you played it well. I'm very fortunate

557
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: in that, you know, there's all this research and there's

558
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: all this gobbledegook that all the records or radio companies do.

559
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: That that tells me who my target audience is supposed

560
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, you know, they're they're big on research,

561
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know, imagine when you're on year, you're talking

562
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: to a twenty seven year old, you know, female driving

563
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: home from work, picking up her child at daycare, and

564
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: and the da da da da da. But the truth

565
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: is I get phone calls from young people. I get

566
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: phone calls. I got a phone call the other day

567
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: from somebody who lives down up Mount Shasta, off the grid.

568
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: He's in his late eighties. He cuts his own firewood

569
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: because his cabin, the house that he lives in is

570
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: only heated with firewood, and he's like completely off the grid,

571
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: and he's got this radio that he picks me up

572
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: on every night when we talked for a long time,

573
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, you are so not my target audience.

574
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: And I so love this conversation we're having. And so

575
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: it's nice that a broad range of people get to

576
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: hit to hear your music. You know, they here right

577
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: here Waiting and all of your big hits every night,

578
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: because they're perfect for every request and dedication anyone ever makes.

579
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've listened, but right Here Waiting

580
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: is a song that that I used to play for

581
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: couples who were getting back together or couples who had

582
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: been separated by the military. Yeah, that's that was huge,

583
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: especially when the song was a hit in eighty nine.

584
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: You know it's go four. I met obviously many men

585
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: who were deployed at the time, and they'll go, man,

586
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: that was my song with my wife or my girl.

587
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: And I also met a lot of widows and widowers

588
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: of military personnel who died during that time, and that

589
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: was their song. This one woman told me that, um,

590
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: this is like a couple of years later after her

591
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: husband was killed, when she got his belongings back. One

592
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: of the belongings was his laptop, and she said, the

593
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: screensaver or his you know, his screensaver on his computer

594
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: were the lyrics to write here waiting. I mean, I

595
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say to stuff like that.

596
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: It's so because when you write songs from such a

597
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: helfish personal place, I never I've never written a song

598
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: that I thought I want to write us an anthem

599
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: for the world. I want to write songs that other

600
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: people can. It's I swear to you. I am so

601
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: selfish about my writing. I write songs that please me,

602
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that make me feel something, that are therapy sometimes, and

603
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I hope that other people like them. That's it. So

604
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: when someone says stuff like that, it's a privilege. It's

605
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: such a privilege to have created something that impact someone

606
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: in any way, let alone like that. I have people

607
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: now that will come up to me and if they say,

608
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to thank you because we

609
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: we used your song on our wedding. I go should

610
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: have known better. So you're you're recording and you're touring,

611
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I actually don't use that word. I just do show.

612
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I do you know, sixty seventy eight shows a year

613
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: all over the world, and then the next year I

614
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: just do a bunch more shows. So I just play

615
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: shows and it's such a blast because it's not it's

616
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: not album centric. It's not I'm not promoting anything except

617
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: my catalog of songs. Yeah, except now you have an album.

618
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: So we should talk about a tour like I could

619
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: do backup? Maybe, yeah, I could do the day. Absolutely could.

620
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: You could wear this thing that Daisies were who they will,

621
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: It would be an interesting take on that. Richard Marks,

622
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: thank you for coming and be in here with us,

623
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: always a pleasure and sharing all these great stories. Next

624
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: time you see lion, will give him a kiss on

625
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: the other cheek. Will sure kiss him on the right cheek,

626
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: Not that I remember, but if you could, of course

627
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: you remembers it is Richard Marks, thank you for sharing

628
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: time loves someone with the line till I love