1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Iranian backed Houties are vowing to respond to the US 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: and British led air strikes after those recent attacks. Ed 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Baxter has that story and more from San Francisco. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: Ed. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Brian. Two days and the US is 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 4: vowing to continue more attacks after it says dozens of 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 4: targets were struck in Yemen overnight. National Security Advisor Jake 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: Sullivan on ABC has heard on Bloomberg says the US 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: has prepared for whatever the Houthies want to bring, and 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: that damage to them has really been done. 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: We believe they had good effect in reducing degrading the 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: capabilities of the militias and of the Houthies, and as necessary, 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: we will continue to take action. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: And NSC spokesman John Kirby, talking about both yesterday and Friday, 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 4: says it will continue. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 5: What you saw Friday night was just the first round 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: and it's not going to be the last one by 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 5: any stretch. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 4: And Ali al Cahum, a member of the Houthi Political Council, 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: says there is now open war. Meanwhile, Sullivan talking about Israel, 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: says a hostage release pause and the war is proving 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: to be elusive, and says it is in Hamas Court 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: right now. 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: From our perspective, the security of Israel should be sacred. 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: It should not be a political game, and so everyone 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: should get behind a comprehensive package of the kind that 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: bipartisan bipartisan group of senators are negotiating as we speak. 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so going to the package. You may see it 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: from the Senate this afternoon. But House Speaker Mike Johnson 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: on NBC has heard on Bloomberg, says there are two 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: packages right now in the House and wants them move 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: to the Senate and approved. 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 6: This border is out of control. All these problems have 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 6: mounted in the Senate has been dithering ever since. We 37 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 6: cannot wait anymore. The reason we are going to send 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 6: the new Israel package over is because the time is 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 6: urgent and we have to take care of that responsibility now. 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffrey says the bills cannot forget 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: about Ukraine and Asia. 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 7: First and foremost certainly to support Ukraine's effort to push 43 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 7: back against Russian aggression. Also to support our allies in 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 7: the Indo Pacific, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea. The legislation being 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 7: put forth by House Republicans does none of that. The 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 7: responsible approach is a comprehensive one to address America's national 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 7: security priority. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: By the way, Johnson on NBC when asked directly whether 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: Donald Trump was calling the shots and the House said 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: of course not that he Johnson is calling the shots. 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin net Yahu says he does 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: not need any help navigating relations with the US and 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: apparent reference to criticisms from one of his ministers that 54 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: the Biden administration hasn't fully backed Israel and its war 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: against Hamas. California's coast being battered by some heavy weather, 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: heavy rains, flood warnings from north to the south. It's 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: expected to last most of the day with showers into tomorrow. 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: There has been some flooding in the Modterrey area and 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: at and t at Pebble Beach. Round four has been 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: postponed until tomorrow with hopes of getting it in. So 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: the leader board when we stopped yesterday Wyndam Clark a 62 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: top at seventeen under Ludwig Olberg at sixteen under Matejo 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: Pavon at fifteen under Mark Hubbard and Thomas the Tree 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: at fourteen under let's hope they can get it in. 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: Some really good shooting out there with definitely less than 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: favorable conditions. And the World Cup twenty twenty six final 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 4: has been awarded to New York City, beating out Los 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: Angeles and Dallas. Global News twenty four hours a day 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now in 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: San Francisco, I'm at Baxter in This is Bloomberg. 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Brian, thanks very much. Coming up on seven minutes past 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the hour. I'm Brian Curtis along with Chrisner, and we 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: look at some of the top business stories. Now, well, 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: we mentioned a few moments ago that it's been a 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: tough period for Chinese stocks. The CSI three hundred was 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: down six point three percent in the month of January, 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: and that was the sixth consecutive month of losses. Well, 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: now China is pledging to stabilize markets after stocks were sinking. There, 79 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: let's get more on the story from Bloomberg's Bonny Ow 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 8: The CSI three hundred plunged much as three point four 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 8: percent before finishing down one point two percent. The China 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 8: Securities Regulatory Commission filed to prevent abnormal fluctuations, but it 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 8: offered no specifics on how to end a sell off. 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 8: Investors took to social media to express frustration. The selloff 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 8: has erased more than six trillion dollars of value in 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 8: the Chinese economy. The CSRC also said it would guide 88 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 8: more funds into the market and that it would crack 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 8: down on what it caused malicious short selling and insider trading. 90 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 8: The lead academic Liu yu Hue, said China should do more. 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 8: Leo told State media China should set up a stock 92 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 8: stabilization fund as soon as possible. In Hong Kong, I'm 93 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 8: Bonnie al Bloomberg Radio. 94 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Former President Donald Trump is saying he might impose a 95 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: new terror of fund Chinese goods if elected. Trump told 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: The Washington Post he was considering a sixty percent terror 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: fund Chinese imports, and when asked about this today on 98 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Fox News Sunday Morning Futures, Trump rejected the idea his 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: move could start a trade war. 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: You know, obviously I'm not looking at to her China. 101 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: I want to get along with China. I think it's 102 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: great but they've really taken advantage of our country, and 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: we turned it around. We put big tariffs on steel. 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: I saved the steel companies, and now Japan is buying 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: US Steel. US Steel. You know what a name that is. 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: That's the most important name. Fifty years ago there was 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: no company like US Steel. Now that Japan is buying it, 108 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: I don't think I'd let that deal go through. 109 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: By the way, former President Donald Trump there now his 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: comments on tariffs only add to the already long list 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: of concerns for domestic Chinese investors. 112 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Brian Well, let's switch to a look at the economy 113 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: in the US. Friday's jobs report shows that US companies 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: boosted payrolls by three hundred and fifty three thousand in January, 115 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: and with the revisions, December's hiring figure also was increased. 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: Now the number suggests the reacceleration that is likely to 117 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: delay any rate cuts for the time being. Mohammedel Arian, 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: president of Queen's College, Cambridge, and the Bloomberg opinion columnist, weighed. 119 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 9: In, Wow, I mean, what an amazing job report. It 120 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 9: just confirms that this is an exceptional labor market that's 121 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 9: going to feed into the exceptionalism of the US economy. 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 9: I do think it's a bit of a headache for 123 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 9: the FED because of the wage growth numbers for your markets. Look, 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 9: this means March is off the table. 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: That's Bloomberg opinion colling this. Mohammed el Arian us Ism 126 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: data out later this week could further indicate the Fed's 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: path forward on rate cuts. According to analysis from Bloomberg Intelligence, 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: January's ISM services gauge is expected to rise slightly from Decembers. 129 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest, Garfield. Reynolds joins us Bloomberg 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: Chief correspondent for rates. So we just talked generally here 131 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 1: about conditions in the marketplace. Garfield, the strong jobs number 132 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: yields up in the dollar up. The Atlanta Fed GDP 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: now figure is pointing toward four point two percent growth. 134 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: So there's a slight negative for markets if the FED 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: is less likely to cut rates. But there's a slight 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: positive for the markets for risk assets. That growth like that, 137 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, is pretty pretty consistent with earnings. So where 138 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: are we in terms of the balance on risk. 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 10: Well, the balance seems to have shifted quite markedly, you know, 140 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 10: towards risk with the only the only lingering concern there 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 10: is that your bond yields could move higher, which raises 142 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 10: the bar for valuations, you know, and the bond yields 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 10: can move higher because some of those Fed rate cuts 144 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 10: that had been priced in, we already lost a little bit, 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 10: well not quite one, but we're now at exactly five 146 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 10: rate cuts priced in. At some stages of the last 147 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 10: couple of weeks, we were looking at a good chance 148 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 10: of a sixth rate cut, So that six rate cutters 149 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 10: off the table, the March rate cutters off the table. 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 10: But you know, the reasons why it is off the 151 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 10: table are more to do with economic strength and with 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 10: FED hawkishness. So for the moment, that's that's a positive, 153 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 10: even if a slightly cautious one you have for risk assets, 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 10: especially because you know there was some back and forth 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 10: about it. But you know a lot of the more 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 10: important big companies earnings are out and on balance they've 157 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 10: been you know, at least moderately positive, in some cases 158 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 10: extremely positive. So that sets things up where equities look 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 10: like outperforming and bonds definitely look like underperforming. 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. I mean, right now, the 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: swaps market, I think is indicating to the odds for 162 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: a move in March to say a cut of twenty 163 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: five basis points. That probability is only around fifteen percent 164 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: right now, and since Friday, the May contract, a swaps 165 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: market is no longer fully pricing in a rate cut, 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: So we're looking farther down the road, no question about it. 167 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Let's not forget that consumer sentiment data which was up 168 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: in a very very big way as well. I'm wondering 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: whether you're hearing rumblings, whether people are beginning to express 170 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: any concern of a reacceleration in inflation. I mean, we 171 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: know that the market has embraced this idea that inflation 172 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: has been coming down. That's let us into the conversation 173 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: around rate cuts. But is there a risk that inflation 174 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: could pick up? 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 10: Well, that risk is definitely there. You know a couple 176 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 10: of things that happened going on to some extent out 177 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 10: of the surface. We did get a marked increase in 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 10: break even rates, you know, the bond market's best estimate 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 10: of where inflation is going to average over the next 180 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 10: number of years, depending on the tenor the two year 181 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 10: break even rate rose about thirty something basis points in January, 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 10: which was the biggest monthly increase since last February, so 183 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 10: that's a warning. The thing that has mitigated against that 184 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 10: a lot has been the way that oil prices have 185 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 10: remained lower. You're, even amid what's been happening in the 186 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 10: Middle East, we haven't seen crude prices significantly advanced, and 187 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 10: you know, even this morning, after we had those attacks 188 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 10: over the weekend, it's not a huge jump, and crude 189 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 10: oil sold off quite strongly at the end of last week. 190 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 10: So as long as you have crude oil staying in 191 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 10: the sort of range it's been, then you don't get 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 10: that feeding through the gasoline prices. Then you don't get 193 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 10: both the direct impact on inflation from higher gasoline prices 194 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 10: and in particular, the sort of thing that worries central bankers. 195 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 10: You don't get that feeding into stronger consumer expectations of 196 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 10: increased prices. 197 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: So it's going to be really interesting to watch inflation there. 198 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Now let's switch to China, because we did get an 199 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: offer more support from the CSRC. It didn't look like 200 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: there was anything too specific in there. They did talk 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: about cracking down on what they referred to as malicious 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: short selling and insider trading, So I raised this point 203 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: earlier that it still seems to be that Chinese regulators 204 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: think that it's bad actors that are playing the role here, 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: it's not just investors losing confidence. So two prong question one, 206 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: is this going to work to bring confidence back to 207 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: the market, and what do we think of the regulators? 208 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 10: Well, a Chinese regulators that stuck between a rock and 209 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 10: a hard place, because you know, they as long as 210 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 10: you've got markets, their markets kind of want to be free, 211 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 10: and so you're going to have people wanting to sell 212 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 10: short companies that look like the prices are going to fall, 213 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 10: and you're also it's a bit different if if you're 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 10: the SEC and the S and P five hundred drops 215 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 10: by ten percent, well that's not your fault unless it's 216 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 10: somebody who's been breaking the rules and you haven't caught them. 217 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 10: But there's kind of an instinct in China that you 218 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 10: under the wise leadership of Sizingping and the Communist Party, 219 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 10: common prosperity is the goal and things are going to improve. 220 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 10: And the economy did end up doing better last year 221 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 10: than a lot of people expected, and yet the stock 222 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 10: market did worse. So there's definitely some pressure there implicitly 223 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 10: and perhaps even explicitly to for regulators to make the 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 10: markets conform better with how the authorities think the economy 225 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 10: is going. The difficulty that they face is the more 226 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 10: they fret and the more they try and impose a 227 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 10: direction on equities, the more that's likely the spook investors. 228 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 10: There was data out over the weekend. I think about, 229 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 10: you know, strong outflows into ETFs to you know, the 230 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 10: Chinese investors want to bet on foreign stocks because they're 231 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 10: the picture is clearer, you can get a better read 232 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 10: on where things go to go. And the other difficulty 233 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 10: is that there are some concerns about the Chinese economy's 234 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 10: long term direction. So anytime you manage to goose the 235 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 10: share market higher, what you potentially do is offer a 236 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 10: more attractive exit point for people who might have gone 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 10: long earlier. They got trapped. They're looking at a twenty 238 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 10: percent loss. You can get it to grow ten percent. 239 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 10: They're going to go, well, I think I'm going to 240 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 10: take that ten percent loss instead of a twenty percent 241 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 10: loss and put my money where I've got a better 242 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 10: clue of what's going to happen. 243 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: So with a deterioration we've been talking about in the 244 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: equity market, in China, along with the problems in the 245 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: housing market in low confidence. Generally speaking, very quickly, Garfield 246 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: in about thirty seconds or so. Does that mean that 247 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 2: the bond market in China is where you want to 248 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: be right now? 249 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 10: Well, the bond market certainly looks more likely to perform 250 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 10: decently in China. It's already gained a lot, so that's 251 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 10: a concern. The other difficulty you have is, of course 252 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 10: it's a managed currency regime, and that makes it more 253 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 10: complicated for investors to get into an out of Chinese bonds, 254 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 10: But yet they look more attractive than equities at the timement. 255 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on the 256 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: stories making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 257 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, 258 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcast. 259 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 260 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: three to zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to 261 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: one in Washington, Bloomberg one oh sixty one in Boston, 262 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,239 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 263 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 264 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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