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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your seven home of the Black and Gold s

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Speaker 1: R Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. Is uh welly? Not a victory Tuesday losing

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Steelers losing their third straight game on Monday night,

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Speaker 1: um dropping a seventeen defeat at the hands of the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. If not for the Rams losing to the

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Speaker 1: Jets on Sunday, this is the loss that everybody's talking

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Speaker 1: about it and they're still talking about. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: Rams losing to the Jets kind of trumps that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but not by much. Not by much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I honestly thought going into this game, since he was

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Speaker 1: worse than the Jets, I thought they were the worst

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Speaker 1: team in the league. And I mean, the Jets now

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Speaker 1: lost Lawrence and there's all these complications obviously, and they're

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Speaker 1: no longer going to be, you know, windless. But the Rams,

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Speaker 1: that was an isolated incident. They've they've had a good month,

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Speaker 1: all things considered. They stumbled against somebody else earlier this

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Speaker 1: month and then they beat up on somebody too. They've

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Speaker 1: been playing well though they've been playing playoff level football,

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Speaker 1: where this is a fourth game in a row that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have not played playoff level football by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, I'm not gonna go back on

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Speaker 1: my words. They got beat by the Forts. They did.

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Speaker 1: They did um No. I said late last week if

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Speaker 1: if the Steelers didn't handle their business in a very

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Speaker 1: convincing fashion, I was gonna be really rough on him,

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Speaker 1: And I think they deserve that collectively collectively, But to me,

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Speaker 1: it's an individual issue because when and Ben Roethlisberger said

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Speaker 1: this after the game, if I'm playing badly, I'm the

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Speaker 1: guy that has the ball in my hands every play.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback situation is, you know, if if your quarterback

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Speaker 1: is not playing well, you can't win in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Hunters don't agree. If we look at this over the

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Speaker 1: last month, he's not the only problem. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: have been a lot. There's the drop games, and there's

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Speaker 1: no running game and all these things we've talked about

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Speaker 1: for the last three weeks. But he hasn't elevated people either.

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Speaker 1: If you look at this game, he's the number one problem,

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Speaker 1: and whoever's number two whatever, is the second worst thing

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Speaker 1: that happened is way way down on the list. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he killed the team in my opinion, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to mince words at all. I thought he was horrible. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think they win the game with Rudolph possibly, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just if you just do the simple things

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Speaker 1: and it would have been a lot different outcome. I

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Speaker 1: thought his supporting cast in terms of the weapons, all

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Speaker 1: elevated their games tremendously, and there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: open receivers, and they developed a running game. And defense

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Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but considering where they're at, I thought they

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Speaker 1: were more than good enough against a bad opponent. Will

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Speaker 1: get to some of the things I didn't like there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you I think you agree on some

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Speaker 1: of them. And I mean the offensive line moved bodies

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Speaker 1: in the run game. I mean filling away about a

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Speaker 1: tough day. But the quarter killed him, killed him, killed him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the turnovers, fumbled snap

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Speaker 1: that was on him, that was the perfect snap. Nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with the snap. The interception was something you would

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Speaker 1: expect out of a high school player. Uh. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted complex coverages. At least from what I said, that

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Speaker 1: was just straight's own drop. Uh. And then and then

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Speaker 1: the the interset or the fumbled by Juju smith Schuster.

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Speaker 1: While smith Schuster fumbled it, and that's on him, it's

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Speaker 1: on him. But the quarterback put him in a in

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Speaker 1: a tough position where he was gonna get smacked. First

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Speaker 1: of all, it wasn't gonna be a first down, no,

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Speaker 1: there was there was nothing to gain. There was nothing

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Speaker 1: to gain on that throw period, and he threw him

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Speaker 1: into coverage where he got he took a big hit.

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Speaker 1: Ye and did the same to Ebron who ended up

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Speaker 1: leieving the game. I mean, they just called those hospital balls.

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Speaker 1: You threw him over the middle of a little you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't help his receivers. And you got to realize

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Speaker 1: every defense is key and on that they're all playing forward, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're all. He knows we short throw, we're

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Speaker 1: know that one's key. And you know, at best we

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Speaker 1: knocked the ball loose right or disrupted making a tough

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Speaker 1: dropping balls and we're gonna tackle the catch at worst,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you gotta be smarter than that too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he what I saw he made bad throws,

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Speaker 1: bad decisions, didn't see the field well, wasn't particularly comfortable,

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Speaker 1: didn't control the football particularly well. But then you see

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Speaker 1: three or four throws like we do every game, and

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Speaker 1: you go, not every quarterback can make that throw. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say he's shot. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not either. I don't think. I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing with a lot of confidence

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Speaker 1: right now. Probably not, And I think that's stems. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he has caught in the fourth quarter to me,

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Speaker 1: when he was from the throwaways and some of that,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just get an out type thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he has confidence um in his ability to

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Speaker 1: to make some of the throws that that he can make.

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Speaker 1: And I know he and make them because I've seen them.

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Speaker 1: He make these strows. I don't know that he has

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Speaker 1: a confidence right now. Does he know he can make

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Speaker 1: that he can make them when they when the bulls

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Speaker 1: are guys open, and he's not. He's not cutting it loose.

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Speaker 1: So either he's making his decisions, Okay, I'm going with them.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to juju with the ball in this situation,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, he's got the great matchup for to happen.

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Speaker 1: That's where I decided, So I'm going there. Or he's

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Speaker 1: just he's just not seeing the field. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the two, because they're there are guys open, and he's

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Speaker 1: not making you know, he's not making those strows. And

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Speaker 1: then when he when he does make those stros are

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Speaker 1: off right. He doesn't control the football very well. Like

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Speaker 1: I had to like people on immediately the comments on

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Speaker 1: on on d K Pittsburgh Sports dot com and even

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and social media, or Randy Fiekner, this is

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Speaker 1: this offensive, you know, it's all this This had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with Randy Fiekner, not at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can have complaints about Fetner, that's fine. Not in

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Speaker 1: this game. James Washington was open, was NFL wide open

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Speaker 1: on that first pass of the game. He's two steps

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Speaker 1: behind the cornerback on that play. It's play action, it's

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Speaker 1: a rollout. This is that what everybody has been screaming about.

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Speaker 1: Why don't the Steelers do these things? They do it

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Speaker 1: and he badly under throws the ball. Yes, absolutely, on

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Speaker 1: third down cross mid range cross it wasn't within five yards,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's ten to fifteen yards down the field.

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Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson has has two steps on his guy. If

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Speaker 1: he leads him out beyond that, that's a touchdown. There's

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Speaker 1: nobody behind him and nobody and he overthrows him. Perfectly

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Speaker 1: designed play, exactly the coverage you want, and the player

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Speaker 1: executes except for the quarterback. There was a lot of

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Speaker 1: those throughout the game. I mean, we even talked about

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Speaker 1: it's hard not watching being there or watching that's all

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Speaker 1: twenty two. But it sure looked like the route concepts

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Speaker 1: were designed. Okay, we are going to attack them intermediate.

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Speaker 1: The throws were down the field about when he threw short,

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Speaker 1: it was because he was choosing to throw short. Every

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Speaker 1: concept you don't have. You know, this isn't Bruce Arians

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're attacking. They have players at each level

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Speaker 1: on the defense, and he's choosing to take the short routes. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and it worked for much of the year, but it's

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Speaker 1: not working over and over and defenses are all keying

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Speaker 1: on it. I think your point about the confidence is

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Speaker 1: probably true, and that he doesn't step in with the

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Speaker 1: same authority. It doesn't seem like he trusts where he's

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Speaker 1: going to put the football. I mean, not armed talent,

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Speaker 1: arm strength that's controlling the football. If I'm gonna drop

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Speaker 1: so therefore I'm not gonna like three years ago, you know,

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, Ben led the NFL and interceptions was sixteen. No,

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Speaker 1: he just threw the foot and everybody complained about it.

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Speaker 1: But he just threw the football. You know, Now he

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Speaker 1: not and now he's checking everything down. Now he's become

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Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees. Like here we're you know, Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: and he's not making any plays. But he did for

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Speaker 1: eleven weeks. He did for eleven weeks. And you can

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Speaker 1: still see, like the touchdown throw that he made the

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Speaker 1: Deante Johnson beautiful, it's perfect two weeks ago to Washington, right,

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Speaker 1: juice are perfect, you know, right on the line. You're right,

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Speaker 1: So it's possible. But you wonder those if you throw

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Speaker 1: ten balls that are tough throws and nine of them

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Speaker 1: don't go well and one does doesn't start to get

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Speaker 1: in your head like a little bit. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not what I used to be. This elbow

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Speaker 1: I don't think it hasn't Like I watch him throw

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Speaker 1: the quick throws where okay, you didn't have the laces

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Speaker 1: do think it's something we've talked about over the years.

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Speaker 1: Older quarterbacks, as the season goes on, show their age

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Speaker 1: more than you know, November October, you know, just the

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Speaker 1: Brady last year, those guys really show their age. Even

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Speaker 1: this week, Brady had a really bad first half, came

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Speaker 1: back strong. Ye, Breeze had a really bad first half,

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Speaker 1: first half in Wrath, right. I mean, like these old

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Speaker 1: he playing herd is he doing this? I'm like, go

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Speaker 1: back and look at Brady stats in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years in no In in uh in New England

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Speaker 1: in November and December. They look much different than the

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Speaker 1: members in September and October. And some of it. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely think our weather and it's just harder to perform

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and New England. But it's true for Breeze too,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing in the sound, playing and domes. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big believer that's old guys. The marathons harder on them.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no doubt about that. And that you know,

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Speaker 1: he talked. He was asked last center healthy and he says,

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Speaker 1: When you're in your thirty eight and you just don't

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Speaker 1: recover as quickly. Yeah, I mean you're gonna feel the

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Speaker 1: and they were there and they Every team in the

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Speaker 1: that in that completion percentage isn't that impressive either. That

423
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: would make him one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Probably.

424
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: That's like duct numbers. Yeah, I mean, that's last year

425
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: of type numbers. I mean, that's that's terrible. Here's the thing, though,

426
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, second quarter of games, he's one

427
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: oh seven of one sixty one. That's a sixty six

428
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: point five completion percentage. You'll take that, no matter what.

429
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: For twelve hundred and eighty yards twice as many yards

430
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: with fourteen touchdown passes in four interceptions. So if we

431
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: extrapolated that over three point he's the best quarterback in

432
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: l A like far and away, yeah, like easily the

433
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: m v P type of deal. His yards for attempt

434
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: in the first quarter four point eight one, his yards

435
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: per attempt in the second quarter eight point five seven,

436
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: again twice as much. It's it's it's astounding deeper, but

437
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: he's completing them. And then he's completing them. They're they're

438
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: they're figuring some things out. He's making and completing the

439
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: throws again eight and almost an eight and a half

440
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: percentage points. More so, if he throws a hundred past,

441
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: he's he's completing almost nine more passes on a hundred

442
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: on a hundred attempts in the second quarter. Now you

443
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: go to the third quarter. The third quarter is not

444
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: quite as bad as that first quarter numbers. It's a

445
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: little bit better, but it's still a little less. Like

446
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: he goes back into the locker room and kind of

447
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: cools it. So he's eighty nine one forty. That's a

448
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: sixty three point six completion percentage, which okay, that's seven

449
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Again, that's there.

450
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: If he did he did that over three and you

451
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: know three and a half quarters, you'll be going, okay,

452
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a one two of those games, but nothing

453
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: great because you got a factor in two. I mean,

454
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the whole offense is a passing game. It's like get

455
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: rushing in that stretch. And again that yards per attempt

456
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: falls to um five point one. It was actually, yeah,

457
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: five point one in those situations. Fourth quarter, he's ninety

458
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: five of one thirty one for it's a seventy two

459
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: and a half percent the big completion percentage. That's huge

460
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: for eight and fifty three yards, so it's not quite

461
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: as many yards at the end of the first half.

462
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Ten touchdown passes, three interceptions. Again, if he had three

463
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: three and a half quarters where he had eight d

464
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: fifty three passing yards, ten touchdowns and three interceptions, you're

465
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: going on, he's playing really well or these are in

466
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: the same games, like the same games, and I'm sitting

467
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: there thinking, what's they've been winning most of their games,

468
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: contrary to recent opinion. But he still throws a lot

469
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter with leads, and they're not blowing

470
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: people out all that often. So I don't know that

471
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: that's a distinguishing factor, aim script, because they've been losing

472
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: lately too. And if you think about it, I mean,

473
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: you can take any of those quarters, multiply it by four,

474
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: and what if those were his numbers, like that second quarter,

475
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: If you multiplied by four and those are his numbers

476
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: right now, he'll be the m v P by a million,

477
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, by far and away. And even the fourth

478
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: quarters in that conversation is yrs for attempt in the

479
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: fourth quarters is seven, you know, six point five, which

480
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: is right around his average. It's been sacked in the

481
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: fourth quarter this year. I mean, as much as you

482
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: want to talk about, well this this offensive line is

483
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: he's still been sacked twelve times. Yeah, and that clue.

484
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: You know, he's starting the ball a hundred and sixty

485
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: one times in the second quarter, which is the most

486
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: of the passes of any any quarter. It's been sacked

487
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: four times on his a hundred sixty passes. So I

488
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but to me, the big the

489
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: takeaway there is that's a good way looking at because

490
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: it's fourteen games, it's not a month, it's not three

491
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: or four, and that this is this is what he

492
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: is right now. The first quarter is the problem. Obviously,

493
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: it's not a valley right. The rest of it's really good.

494
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: You know, if if you take the first quarter times

495
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: three compared to the other three quarters, they're not even close,

496
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if you do not even

497
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: bring it down the quarter, just first quarter verse everything else.

498
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: So how do you fix that? I don't think we

499
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. But he starts slow every

500
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: game and missing open guys. And to your point, oh,

501
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: coach Featner doesn't always doing well. There's guy's open on

502
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: crossers and deep ones and he misses him off and

503
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: then he gets it back in the rhythm. That's not

504
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: the coach's fault. Yeah, I don't. I mean, you know,

505
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: when when I coach baseball, you know, you learn your

506
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: pictures a little bit and you learn the ones who Okay,

507
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: this guy needs to get warm. I need to get

508
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: him really warmed up to get him into the game.

509
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, he has to throw, he has to throw

510
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: forty warm up pitchers. This one only needs twenty. I

511
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: want to save his arm. I'm gonna save his arm.

512
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: He'll be fine, he'll come in, he'll be great. This guy,

513
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, he struggles a little bit with the early

514
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, and finding the plate or with the control,

515
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: gives up some hits. So I'm gonna give him forty

516
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: pitches in the bullpen to get him a good lather

517
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: up and then put him into the game. But I

518
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: don't know how you do that in a in a

519
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: foot in a in a football setting, because you you

520
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: get this by the time do you have him go

521
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: out and hey, we want you to go out there.

522
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: When he was younger, and I don't know if he

523
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: still does this now, he doesn't. I don't think he

524
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: does this the way he used he used to go.

525
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he had this big warm up process that

526
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: he went through. Remember I remember that big rugby ball

527
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: thing he used to use to I didn't do that anymore,

528
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: but this was this was a pre pre practice, pre

529
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: game kind of thing where he had to make all

530
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: these different kind of throws to get himself warmed up.

531
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he does it anymore or not.

532
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: But and it's not like he's a rookie year second

533
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: year guy, like, hey, try this young man. You know

534
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: he knows. Yeah, he's been doing this forever. If he's thinking, boy,

535
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I only got a hundred pitches in me, I'm not

536
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: wasting him in pre game. If I started a little slow,

537
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: so be it, I understand. But then you're in a

538
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: hole and the defense can't see often yeah, I mean

539
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: like there's so and then if you typically, I mean

540
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: most games, the defense is good enough. Okay, even yesterday,

541
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: punt punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover deep in your own end,

542
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: but you're still it leads to a field goal, punt turnover.

543
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you can't get the turnover, turnover, turnover.

544
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: But if you're playing the Bills, are the Titans or

545
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it's a different piece. You can't start slowly,

546
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: can't start defense asking your defense, you know. That's that's

547
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: what happened to the Saints. I mean, Breeze was playing

548
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: poorly in that game, and the next thing you know,

549
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: they're down fourteen nothing and their offenses there first down

550
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: yet Yeah, and their defense is doing the best job

551
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I've seen against the chief Absolutely, they made things rough on.

552
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you looked at my homes first half

553
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: numbers in that game, I think he was thirteen and

554
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven and just they weren't moving the ball with

555
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Eaves at all. So and the Steels D and Saints

556
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: D are very comparable and you both can do that,

557
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: but you're no matter what in the end the day,

558
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: you got a score. Yeah, yeah, you got a score against.

559
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: In those situations, they can't have these lulls. They got

560
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: find a way to get him to start faster. And

561
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is. More practice, less practice,

562
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: different routine and the more you know difference, run the

563
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: ball more early. I mean, I don't know, but I

564
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: do know. I do know this, what they're doing right

565
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: now isn't working exactly, and they need to change it. Yeah,

566
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, the definition of insanity. Just keep doing the

567
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: same thing, expect you know, and I know you know,

568
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: before the first Cincinnati game, he didn't practice at all

569
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: that week. He wasn't even around the team. He was

570
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: stuck home. He was stuck at home, and he came

571
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: out and played maybe his best game of the year.

572
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the answer. I don't know that

573
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: that's the answer you next Sunday, Ben, Yeah, that can't work.

574
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: That can't work. But do you take the opposite approach? Hey,

575
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: I want you to practice heavier on Wednesdays. Um, we'll

576
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: give you. But what if his body can't withstand it?

577
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's a fine line. I think I got

578
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to change it all. I think at this point, you

579
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: know you've got two games left in a regular season,

580
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: you're already in the postseason. You know that you're in

581
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. To me, this is the time a year

582
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: where you go, okay, you just need to practice. Um,

583
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: we're sprinting down. I mean we're down to stretch last.

584
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: You need to run it as hard as you can

585
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: and see what happened. Yeah, we need we need to

586
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: figure we need to we can't continue to do what

587
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: we've been doing. I mean, he was off Wednesday and

588
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: Thursday last week because they had the extra practice day

589
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: and so they you know, he essentially practice Friday and Saturday.

590
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's not like he didn't practice at all, but

591
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: he took an extra what you get, I mean, if

592
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: you do it with Pouncey, I understand it too, and

593
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: some of a lot of these but those guys all

594
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: practiced that the the offensive linemen were off Wednesday, they

595
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: came back and practiced Thursday, where he got to he

596
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: got the two days off. I get I get it.

597
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: You're trying to manage a thirty eight year old quarterbacks

598
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: body and we're not sitting there with I mean, coach

599
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Tomlins sits there with the strength and conditioning staff and

600
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: the medical staff, and they might be like, yeah, save

601
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: them all you can, or he can do it. And

602
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: he's the one too, you know, if it's if it's me,

603
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: even if he's you know, just come and do some

604
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: seven on sevens on Wednesdays or something. Because I did

605
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: hear the Tom press conference and he said something along

606
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the lines of, well we do get um, you know,

607
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Daubs and Rootolph a lot more involved on I don't

608
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: care about I don't care about that. This isn't Bowl

609
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: practice where I got all time and I'm gonna get

610
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: playing my freshman. I mean, it's crunch time. And the

611
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: goal here isn't to develop Josh Dobbs into a okay

612
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: number two someday. Because I know this. If you lose

613
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: this game on Sunday to Indianapolis, now you go into

614
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: that final season game against Cleveland with the a f

615
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: C North Division championship on the line. Because the Browns

616
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: play the Jets. The Jets won their game, the Browns

617
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: are gonna win that football game. You don't want to

618
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: go into the final week of the season with the

619
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: potential to lose that football game and go into a

620
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: wild Now you're a wild card. I mostly agree with you.

621
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: But it is the difference between the three seed and

622
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: the five seed enough. If you need to break to

623
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: play all you know, to leave everything out there. I

624
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: think it is most years. I definitely think it is.

625
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I think you want to play at home, I'm sure.

626
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: And do you want to do do you want to

627
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: fall into that four or five game? Would you rather be?

628
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, of course not. But I don't know because

629
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: standing on the other side of that four or five

630
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: game now all of a sudden is Kansas City in

631
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the second round? Yeah I know, I know. But if

632
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: you can't beat anyone in your current state and you

633
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: need a break, well, but the thing is you need

634
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Speaker 1: to You need to if you If you don't, if

635
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: you don't win against Indianapolis and then you don't win

636
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: against Cleveland, you're rolling into the playoffs. With a five

637
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: game losing straight, you're not going anywhere anyways, probably not,

638
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: probably not. I mean they're in a tough spot. I

639
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: think you gotta win a game. I think that's that's

640
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: why this game this weekend is them. I don't care

641
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: if you win this game. I don't care what you

642
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: do against Cleveland. Oh right, that was the thing, because

643
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you assumed you beat the Bengals and then I didn't

644
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: care what happened the right year. To be honest, I

645
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: never really white set it that way. But you get

646
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you win the division. I don't care. If

647
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: you won't play anybody in the last two weeks. You know,

648
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you lose a drop you to the

649
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: third seed, or even if you're the fourth, I don't care.

650
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: You know the division. But now it's a situation where

651
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: if you lose to Indianapolis you still want to win

652
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: the division. I don't know. I gotta think more about that.

653
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: If you don't win the division, then you're going You're

654
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: not only to get to the super Bowl, you have

655
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: to win three games. You gotta win three on the road.

656
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Three on the road, right, which is very, very hard

657
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: in this league. No matter what even if it's two, three, four, Yeah,

658
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: at least get yourself one at home. You know, you

659
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you have, you've you've kind of, you know,

660
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: thrown away the chance to have two games at home

661
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: unless you only have you only have so many bullets

662
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and you can't shoot them to the playoffs. Well that's

663
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: if that's If that's the case and you're not going

664
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: anywhere anyway, it's probably not. Yeah, I mean it goes

665
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: back to our first segment. I mean, if Ben's not playing, well,

666
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: they're not gonna beat anybody. I just don't I just

667
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: don't see whe're sitting him down for the last you know,

668
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: two weeks of the season. Is gonna say oh yeah,

669
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back and be great, And I just

670
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: don't see that being the case. Yeah, and I do

671
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: mostly agree with you. But obviously the issue all season

672
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: long is that first quarter. How do you correct that

673
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: little problem? You know, I mean, if you could just

674
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: get that too, him being slightly below his average as

675
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: opposed to greatly below his average and much better team.

676
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: His passer rating in the third quarter is eighty. That's

677
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: not great, but it's not it's not seventy two point

678
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: eight and it's not the start of the game, you know, like, right,

679
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: if okay, you have a halftime lead and he comes

680
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: out cold, Okay, takes them a little while to get

681
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: rebbed up. You can live with that. But if you're

682
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: down right off the bat against a good team and

683
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: you're playing catch up and you're not gonna run the

684
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: ball anyway, and the whole world knows you're throwing, and

685
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, right or a turnover to Yeah, I mean

686
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: that's what we saw that night. I mean, that was

687
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: the only to your point, that was the only path

688
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Cincinnati could take to win. And the Steelers pushed them

689
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: down that path, you know, and then you just opened

690
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: the door. They shoved him through it. Yea, here you go,

691
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: do this, Please do this. That's the only way you

692
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: can win, and you don't have to throw anymore. Yeah,

693
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: but the first quarter things are very interesting. That's good research,

694
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: that's good stuff. There. He is, Matt Williamson. I'm dal Lalley.

695
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

696
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. When we come back, we'll

697
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: change the subject a little bit. We'll talk about something

698
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: other than Ben. We'll do that right after this your

699
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal

700
00:36:35,160 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive on DL

701
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: Well here with Matt Williamson and Matt um A couple

702
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: of injuries of a note to come out of Monday

703
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: night's game. Obviously, Derek what suffering concussion on that special

704
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: teams tackle that he made. Uh. I don't know how

705
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: either one of those those two got up off after

706
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that was a yeah. Everybody in the

707
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: press box went, oh, and then you know, one of

708
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: those kind of tackles, and I mean make a little

709
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: bit light of it. I mean, his brother happens to

710
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: be on the team, and you know, I was only worried,

711
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to be a down game from

712
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: t J. And no, no, that was not at all,

713
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm sure it was on his mind

714
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: heavily and on everyone's mind. But um, that was a

715
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: little scary, a little scary. Eric Ebron suffered a back injury.

716
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Took a hard hit to the back of Roethlisberger. Again,

717
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: not on Ben. He threw him in four guys around him. Yeah,

718
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: that made no sense to even release that ball. And

719
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: there was what are you gonna get out of it.

720
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: I guess, and you know this better than I do,

721
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: but I guess it came out today. There was no

722
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: organ damage and a lot of times they take a

723
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: big hit the kidney or something like that too, Right,

724
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: So you know, you expect I expect him to at

725
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: least try to play this weekend. It's against Indianapolis, a

726
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: team that at least him. Uh, you would think that

727
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: he would want to come back and play in that game. Uh,

728
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Steelers should get Vince Williams back, which is huge. It's

729
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: just ridiculously huge. I mean again, you're you're playing the

730
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: last two games without three of your your four starting

731
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: linebackers started the season with. And the Bengals exploited a

732
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: little you know, Gi Bernard as a as a receiver

733
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and frankly Allen's reads on some of these runs and

734
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: just attacking the right gas start getting off block. I mean,

735
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: he's not a linebacker. I'm not sure he's an NFL player,

736
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. So, I mean you're playing

737
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: with the bottom of the wrong dudes. Um, so I

738
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: think you put Vince next to Williamson. Now you're okay,

739
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, Now you're Okay, it's not Bush, but

740
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: it's NFL dudes out there, right. I mean Rivers are

741
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: getting the hame Hines on. Yeah, I'm sure that. I'm

742
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: sure that's what they're looking at right now. Um, and

743
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: then they should get Kevin Dotson expected to be bad.

744
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which is worse, the left guards that

745
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: we've seen the last couple of days or the second

746
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: inside linebacker positions. So they were both. They were both

747
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: sub very subpar in terms of ye what you had

748
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: out there as opposed to what you should have out there.

749
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: And I don't know that Hoss is an NFL player either,

750
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you. It guard he gets

751
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: really exposed. And we were talking about it before they

752
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: got Durwin Gray in there and ran the ball really

753
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: well behind him. But when they got to just pass mode,

754
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: Hoss came back in. I assume that's as simple was.

755
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: We trust him in protection a little more. I think

756
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: you know some of that. Well, he's a center, so

757
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: he recognizes what he seeing out there. And Gray had

758
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: never you know, that was really his first NFL game,

759
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: so and they couldn't be different body types and skill sets.

760
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Gray coming forward moved some people. Yeah, And

761
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was fine, Yeah, yeah, super high. But

762
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that they ran the ball

763
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: effectively in that game until until the one third down

764
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: that they had, and I thought Bennie Snell went to

765
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: the wrong hole. I thought that again. I thought to

766
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: play was blocked to the left and he took one. Yeah,

767
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: and he took the hold of the right. I thought

768
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: they blocked it to go a little bit more left

769
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and he took the I don't know, b gap and whatever. Um.

770
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: A couple of notes there because I wanted to praise

771
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: the run game and Snell two things I've been rough on,

772
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you. But Snell has produced

773
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: when he's gotten a chance and gets more than three carries.

774
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a compiler. I mean that's

775
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: what he wasn't college too, and that's one of his strengths.

776
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: I thought the run game showed more pulling guards, doubled teams,

777
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, more diversity in the run game, which shows confidence. Um.

778
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: But I did see today which after I read it

779
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: didn't shock me. But they're inefficiencies on first or third

780
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: and fourth and one over the last two years are

781
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: like thirty second by a wide margin in the league.

782
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Did you see that? By chance, I'll find it for

783
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you real quick, because it's startling how bad they've been

784
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: on short and third and fourth and super short, just

785
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that inability to get one yard and that's shown up

786
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: time and time again. And that's not all running though. No,

787
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot to it. There's there's there's they I

788
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: mean they've thrown the ball in some of those situations.

789
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Because if you look at like as somebody brought something

790
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: up over the weekend, that about there. They can't run

791
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: it in from the you know, inside the at the

792
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: one yard line. If you look at their numbers, like

793
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: Connor's number, if you look at the short yard situation

794
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: running this year, um Connor's numbers are no different than

795
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's in terms of Okay, I think Connor has

796
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: like nine carries for eleven yards or something like like

797
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: that inside the five. Derrick Henry has like sixteen carries

798
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: for seventeen yards inside the five. Uh. Same same with

799
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. Same. I mean, it's it's almost every every yeah,

800
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: every every running back in the league is going to

801
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: struggle in some of the you know, you're gonna have

802
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: If you average a yard per carry in that situation,

803
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: that's really good. That's what you know, that's what you're

804
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: after at because you're not gonna get You're not gonna

805
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: break off a fire, you know, an eight yard run

806
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: inside the fight, you can't. You know, so your numbers

807
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: are gonna be a little down. But I found the

808
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: information real quick. I'll just read it off here. Pittsburgh

809
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: is the worst quote get a yard team in the

810
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: NFL the last two seasons. Their thirty four of sixty

811
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: two on third and fourth in one since two thousand nineteen,

812
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: so all of this year, all last year, that's fifty

813
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: four eight percent. That's worst in the NFL. I don't

814
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: have much takeaway from that, but it certainly has hurt

815
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: them time and time again. How do you get better?

816
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Going to find the next Dan Cryder

817
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: is going to help you. That doesn't help. Going and

818
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: find the next Nick Chubb helps you there. That would

819
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: be useful to do to make that work, and they

820
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: don't have that. I mean, the thing I noted early

821
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: in the game, I think I tweeted this out, like

822
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard's first or second run in the game, he

823
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: hit a he hit a crease for an eight yard

824
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: gain and it was like there it was there wasn't

825
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: much there, but he hit it quickly. Hit it quickly

826
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: and abruptly. With the Steelers, I mean even Anthony McFarland

827
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: doesn't hit that quickly. I don't think he's he's necessarily

828
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: sure what he's seeing right now, just hit it quickly.

829
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: They don't have the capability of doing that because they're

830
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: running backs. Connor and Snell are plotters. Stop drafting plotters.

831
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: You're right, Jaylen Samuel is a plotter. Plotter. They're all

832
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: slow footed by NFL standards. They don't have the bursts,

833
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: they don't have the juice McFarland does. But you said

834
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: it right, like his his mind, his there's so much

835
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: wasted motion with him. He's got he's all eggs, arms

836
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: and legs and doesn't make any yardage while he's doing

837
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: it while he's looking and you look at him, Boy,

838
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: that was that's nice. Three rd games. Yeah, he's choosing

839
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: people before there's anyone to jew. I always like the

840
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: foghorn leghorn thing. He's like, you're doing a lot of chopping, boy,

841
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: But there ain't no chips to flying, you know, like

842
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: he's doing all this stuff. But that works fine in

843
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: the A C C. That doesn't fly here. He's like

844
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: when I was, you know, when I still played basketball

845
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: the time. One of those guys that you're guarding him

846
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: and he's doing it's the it's the Indiana whole. Yeah,

847
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: Indiana Joe's things. Do all this crazy stuff with the knife,

848
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: and I pull out my gun and shoot. I used

849
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: to love that with guys. You see all these guys,

850
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, dribbling around, you know, in between your legs

851
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. You're not going anywhere. And I'm

852
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: watching your belly, I'm watching your stomach. You're not moving.

853
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: If that moves, you're moving otherwise, you're not going anywhere.

854
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: It's not like you got faked out your shoes. He's

855
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: not making you move your feet one bit. You know,

856
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. I don't make a move until

857
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: I see your you know which way your your belly

858
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: as the coaches used to tell, he watches belly button. Yeah,

859
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I always told my flag football kids watches belt buckle.

860
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you're right, And I bet McFarland will

861
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: get better than that. He has been on the field

862
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: very much in preseason. I'm sure they're trying to coach

863
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: that out of him, which is hard. Snell is never

864
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna have the juice, but he at least running back

865
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, I mean, I think he's in

866
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: the mix next year and it's a good fill in player. Man.

867
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: I want you know again, it goes back to what

868
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: we talked about a draft time, when you know, we were, hey,

869
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: get one of these good young backs, look for Dobbins,

870
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: but they could sure use Dobbins. Yeah, you know, we're

871
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna see Taylor this weekend. You know, he's he's closing

872
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: in on a thousand yards. Has really turned it on

873
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: here in the second half. I mean, they just have

874
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a lot more ability. Yeah, I mean, that's the that's

875
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, Yeah, there's some struggles, and they

876
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: were going to be in a season in which you

877
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: had no preseason, but all these rookie running backs, like

878
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: a long time before, we're seeing them start to start

879
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: that start to happen now. Um to me, that's the thing.

880
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: You know, you want to talk about, you know, third

881
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: and fourth and short failures. A good running back fixes

882
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that. Marcus Allen wasn't the biggest for

883
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: the toughest. He knew, he knew how to get a

884
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: yard any and he knew exactly where to go and right.

885
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you was pretty good at it.

886
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: You don't need to. You don't need to come out

887
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: and run the football forty times a game to win

888
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: in today's NFL. But you better damn we'll be able

889
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: to get a yard when you need a yard. Situational

890
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: part of it as a problem, because you can throw

891
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: all the way down the field. But if you can't

892
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: get that yard when there's all heavy personnel on the

893
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: field and the world knows you're gonna throw, you can

894
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: only play action and throw it to a tack or

895
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: tight end, you know, for exact They get down, Uh,

896
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: they cut they cut the lead to seventeen seven. They're

897
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: driving right back down the field again. In the second half,

898
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger Mrs cha claypool Um had him, had him open,

899
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: overthrew him on a little rollout um on first on

900
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: second down, he checks out of a pass play into

901
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: a run play because they've got a light box and

902
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: still gains three yards. Maybe you know somebody with a

903
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: little more explosion there Mike get in the end zone,

904
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: but at least gets five or six. Then you had

905
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: the option to run again on on third down, as

906
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: opposed to chuck him one. You know, well then they

907
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna do. Now now you've got options. Yeah, again,

908
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: it's better down a distance situation. It's much more favorable

909
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: for the play call. Or you're right, I mean they

910
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: compared to other NFL backfields, they leave a lot of

911
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: yards on the field. Absolutely, and they're absolutely would be great,

912
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: but Kareem Hunt would be great. You right again, I

913
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: mentioned it last week that you know, they could have

914
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: gone out and gotten a veteran back and we're only

915
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: talking like a Carlos Hide. I mean, it's super exciting,

916
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: right again, professional NFL running back, who's who's got starting experience,

917
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Who's who's been a you know, you're not guessing on

918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: what he's gonna give you, you know, by the way,

919
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: he's got a little more juice, a little more juice,

920
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, and he's no and there certainly is a

921
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: veteran mentality of setting up blockers and no one when

922
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: to get a yard and you know how to pick

923
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: up the short yard of stuff and the patients and

924
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: vision that comes with the speed of the game and

925
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: being around it. I thought the running backs were awful

926
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: last year too. Yeah, I mean it's easy just to

927
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: blame the rest of the rest of the offense. They

928
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. And yeah there was a lot

929
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: of full boxes, but you gotta beat your the unblocked

930
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: guy too. People have had success against eight man boxes.

931
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: You're allowed to do that, right, right, right? You think

932
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson Sen and he eight man my man boxes

933
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: in his career, right, exactly right. Anyways, he is Matt Williamson.

934
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

935
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. I do picture of this offense with

936
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: a back though, I mean borderline. It doesn't have to

937
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: be a first round guy. I mean you look at

938
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: all the top action the league. Most of them were

939
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round, o Henry and Chubb and

940
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: it was a long cook. I mean there's a long

941
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: list long I've you know that's that's gonna be a

942
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: priority next year. It has to be. I didn't want

943
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: to go down this road because I would not trade

944
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: Claypool for Dobbins. But they could maybe use Dobbins more

945
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: than Claypool right now, right now, I agree. You know

946
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: what I mean for the next month, Well, the Ravens

947
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: could use Claypool, right they're both really good. Yeah, we're

948
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. When we come back, it's time

949
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: for the Fantasy Football Focus. We'll do that right after this.

950
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: He is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

951
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

952
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: Welcome back m Dale. While here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

953
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, so it's time for the waiver wire watch.

954
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are guys we've talked about already.

955
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: Some of you are deep in your leagues, and some

956
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: of you don't care. Some of you don't care. That's

957
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: why we're gonna roll through this real quick. And then

958
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: I've got a two round Dynasty rookie mock draft. We'll

959
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: get a little jump one. Uh quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts. Oh

960
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: he's Fantasy gold. Yeah, I mean he's he's he's there.

961
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: You can just pick him up and play him if

962
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: you need somebody there um other guys, he's right now.

963
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Roster in percent of leagues. Baker Mayfield rostered and forty

964
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: seven percent of leagues. I think it was largely matchup

965
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: driven there. Last week Giants were all banged up in

966
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: the secondary. They couldn't run the football game SI Giants effectively.

967
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: It's two weeks in a row, though they've come out throwing.

968
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: And I do think it's noteworthy that Baker people, I'm

969
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of. He played like three or

970
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: four weeks in a row in awful weather, so his

971
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: numbers were really bad. And when he finally got to

972
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: play in decent weather, he's been much better. So I

973
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: can start him this week and be comfortable there there

974
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: they play the Jets. I don't know that he's gonna

975
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: have the best of weather there, but we'll see. Mr Biskie.

976
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: He's usable usable. I started in my DFS line that

977
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Yeah. Um, And if you're really bad

978
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: off and you gotta pick somebody up, you could do worse.

979
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: How about Marcus Mariota. You'd be buying on that, and

980
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: he's playing this week. He's gonna start this week. Yeah,

981
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: they have the Dolphins, which is I don't love that,

982
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: love that matchup, but I like the player. You gotta

983
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: be a little headsted on these guys. Though, When a

984
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: team spends all week preparing for car and then they

985
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: spring Mariota on you, there at a disadvantage, you know,

986
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: And there are different styles of player, So I'm not

987
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: sure his option, you know, zone reads and things like that,

988
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: option runs will be as effective. I mean, Miami's practicing

989
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: that as we speak. But I'm a Mariota believer. I

990
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: thought he played extremely well moving on the running back

991
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: LEVI on bell roster and percent of the leagues he

992
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: will be. He should If he's not already in your league,

993
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: he should be in your league. Clyde Edwards, Hilaire out

994
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Um, yeah, he looks fine. Absolutely. Uh.

995
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, I don't know. If z plays again, I

996
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I think maybe they shut him down. He's

997
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: owning percent in the league's hue. Yeah. Those both of

998
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: those guys are you gotta get um as far as

999
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the rest of these guys are guys we've already talked about.

1000
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: So I'm at Sony Michelle, Damian Harris is out that

1001
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they're out of it now they

1002
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: you know. I think Michell are really bad. But Tank

1003
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: Carris for seventy four yards last week. So it's not

1004
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: he actually caught a pass. He actually a pass. I'm

1005
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: not a leaver, but I would hope your Super Bowl

1006
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: teams are better off equipment. You would hope. Yeah, WHDe

1007
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: receiver Kiki Kte we talked about him, rostered uh seven

1008
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: targets last week. I love Watson. He's been playing great.

1009
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: And again, it's such a weird week because if you're

1010
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: a twelve team league, tend of people weren't putting in

1011
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: for anybody. They've given up, right, they've given up. And

1012
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: if you're one or the other two, you're probably pretty good.

1013
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, you're picking up a starter, you're not stashing somebody.

1014
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: It's QT and that well the wide receiver position though,

1015
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: if you had Michael Thomas, you're looking for somebody, you know,

1016
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: and that leads me to Emmanuel Sanders. I'm fine with that. Yeah,

1017
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: I take him over QT. I would too, and I

1018
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get him to the football. Richard Higgins

1019
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: still only rostered in eleven percent of league. Yeah, Nelson

1020
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: agil are still roster leagues. That's just amazing because he's

1021
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: had a very good year. He has, he really has.

1022
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: People been burned by him for a year after year.

1023
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Yeah, for sure. John Brown, Um,

1024
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: he's he's back from I R see what happened. There's

1025
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: like to have on my roster. That's another one. You know,

1026
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on with uh um with

1027
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: Diggs here, he heard his foot at the end of

1028
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: that game. Maybe they shut him down for the rest

1029
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: of the year. Uh there are another thing that could

1030
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: rest every one a week seventeen and maybe week sixteen

1031
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: years half rest people too. Yeah, but you get John

1032
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Brown back, yeah, hunting. Yeah, I'd like that Brown in

1033
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: my roster. If it means picking them up and waiting

1034
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: to kick off, if I'm starting them or not, that's

1035
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: worth it. Yeah. And if Diggs doesn't play, fire them up. Um.

1036
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Looking at the as I said that, we're not gonna

1037
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: look at tight ends. That's just crazy. There's not much.

1038
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: There's not much there at all to the Savior season

1039
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: at tight end. There's no big bees from last year,

1040
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: lost this thing. I was gonna look at it, right,

1041
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Dynasty stuff raft. Yeah, I'm not

1042
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: super dowed into it, but do check on locked on

1043
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Dynasty m and a recording when I go home. Um,

1044
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: it's what I do know about it is, and I'll

1045
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: know a lot of these names. But it's not a

1046
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: great incoming running back class, which certainly influences the Steelers.

1047
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: There's some high end tight ends. It's a ridiculous receiver draft.

1048
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Yet again Lawrence and maybe three or four other first

1049
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: round quarterbacks. So running back aside, it's a pretty darn

1050
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: good fantasy group coming in. UM. And for those who

1051
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: don't understand dynasty, the way this works is pretty much

1052
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: right after the NFL draft, for you know, all these

1053
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: guys lands, all your rookie drafts take place. So if

1054
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 1: you came in last in your dynasty league, you earned

1055
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: the first pick overall. Like I took over a horrible team.

1056
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: And I remember two years in a row, I drafted,

1057
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: three years in a row, I drafted Girly at one one,

1058
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: Zeke at one one, and then I got Kamara at

1059
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: like one five, and then next year I went sixty

1060
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: and build a dynasty. But you gotta live through it. Sometimes, yeah,

1061
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: through it. So I gotta here Round one, UM, Number

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00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: one one is Jamar Chase. Obviously we don't know where

1063
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: these guys are ending up here, but Chase is the

1064
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: number one pick. Makes sense he opted out this year.

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00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: He's a special talent um. But most years there's an

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00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: obvious one one, like sa Quan comes out, he's the

1067
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: one one quarterback or well, quarterbacks aren't worth that much

1068
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: unless it's a super flex, you know, like a Lawrence

1069
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: might not be a first round pick this year, but

1070
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: if it's super flex, he's definitely the one one, you know.

1071
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: I mean, even like Kyler was an obvious one one,

1072
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them to go around. Um, if

1073
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: there's a stud back, he goes one one at a time.

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: One two is Ron del Moore, the wide receiver at

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: a perdue. Okay, that seems a little eye for him,

1076
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: to be honest, because he has some the Sean Jackson qualities.

1077
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, you're miss type dude. One three is Travis

1078
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: a t N. He'll probably be the first back, probably

1079
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: be the first back, although I don't know if you

1080
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: watch then Jay Harris, he five or six touchdowns or whatever.

1081
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if people, though, you know, you look at

1082
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: some of the the the Alabama running backs, you're going

1083
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: they come in with a out of wear and tear

1084
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: on them. They gotta fight hard. And practice just to

1085
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: get on the field, to stay on the field. Yeah,

1086
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: would you consider Naja Harris that the late first for

1087
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I didn't do more work on the guy.

1088
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: I want to I get to know how. You know,

1089
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of Derrick Henry like without maybe the

1090
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: breakaway speed because he's a taller back, but he takes

1091
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: a beating. Yeah, I mean I'd consider maybe moving to

1092
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: the and pick up an extra third. And you know

1093
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, we have a lot of draft talking

1094
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: about UH one four Rashad Bateman from the wide receiver

1095
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. There will be a lot of receivers and

1096
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: deciphering them is kind of difficult right now. Again, it's

1097
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: gonna depend on where they want. One five at Jalen Waddell,

1098
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of the one that opted out,

1099
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean Davante Smiths, the one that is having the

1100
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: best year of all of them. Yeah, but again he

1101
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: made hunds and he's not over what He's not going

1102
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: to run a four too? You know. One six is

1103
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: Najia Harris running back at the Alabama. Sounds like those

1104
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: are the top two backs and then there's some to

1105
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Grebancee after that. One seven is Chuba Hubbard, the running

1106
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: back at Oklahoma State. He always just opted out a

1107
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he shocked a lot of

1108
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: people by going back to school this year and probably

1109
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: made a bad decision because he probably would have went

1110
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: a little earlier. He had over two thousand rushing yards

1111
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: last year. Nowhere near that that. She wasn't super impressive

1112
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: this year, and now he was opted out. One eight

1113
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith who mentioned wide receiver out of Alabama. One

1114
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: nine Seth Williams, the wide receiver out of Auburn. UH

1115
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: one ten Tamri and Terry wide receiver out of Florida State.

1116
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot about him, but okay

1117
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: six four two oh five average twenty yards of catch

1118
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: Florida State. So UM one eleven. Max BORGI running back

1119
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: out of Washington State. Yeah, he's starting to gain a

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00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: little bit of steam to a little one the smallest

1121
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: side five time one ninety seven, UM one twelve. I'm

1122
00:58:51,120 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: on ra st Brown. That's Equanimius brother, the USC guy. Yeah, tall,

1123
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: lean like his brother, UM twice as tall as a

1124
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: brother six one one night I was thinking he's like

1125
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: six two and a half longer type guy. Round two

1126
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Thailand Wallace, what did you seever? Out of Oklahoma State?

1127
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: They had a lot of buzz about him too lately.

1128
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: To two is Journey Brown, running back at a Penn State.

1129
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: Now he has a hard issue. I don't think he's

1130
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: not gonna play fall. He's not gonna play football right.

1131
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: He is officially hung it up, unfortunately, but there was

1132
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: a lot of talent there. Yeah, forty for him as

1133
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: uh too three Zamir White, the running back out of Georgia. Okay,

1134
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about him either. U six

1135
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: ft two fifteen. Here's a little bit better put together back, um,

1136
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: but also had a couple of a c L tears there.

1137
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: Uh to fort Trevor Lawrence to your point about the quarterback.

1138
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: UH to five, Crystal Lave, wide receiver out of Ohio State.

1139
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: He's very consistent, more than just a deep threat. He's

1140
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: been quite good for and stuck behind Paris Campbell, Terry mcclaurin,

1141
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon, kJ Hill and then the last two years

1142
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: UH to six are first tight end Kyle Pitts out

1143
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: of Florida. He'll go much higher than that now. I

1144
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: mean he might be a top ten NFL pick, long

1145
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: Lean having a massive season for Florida. To seven. Justin Fields,

1146
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback out of Ohio State, didn't have a great

1147
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: game last week, but I think he was dealing with

1148
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: some kind of injury on his throwing wrist. That I mean,

1149
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: I got a lot of fantasy goodness about him. To eight.

1150
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: Uh Kylin Hill, running back out of Mississippi State. Even

1151
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: to Okay, so a little more size there as well. Uh,

1152
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: Kenneth Galwell is to night a game, Well, I'm sorry,

1153
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: running back out of Memphis. He's starting to gain a

1154
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: lot of buzz too from what I've understood. Yeah, five eleven,

1155
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: he'd like to see him be a little bit bigger

1156
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: than that. But you know, after Antonio Gibson and Darrell

1157
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: Henderson have come in out of Memphis and Okay can

1158
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: catch the ball um and it might have something there.

1159
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh to ten and Kiante Ingram, the running back out

1160
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: of Texas und he's sixty some guys size. Yeah, I

1161
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: meant only with the Steelers would look at a guy. Yeah,

1162
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they think, but they're not gonna Uh.

1163
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: To eleven is Brevin Jordan, a tight end out of Miami.

1164
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: He's possibly the second or third tight end off the board.

1165
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Little undersize, he's five Evan Ingram type, Yeah to twelve

1166
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: dime Jamie Brown, the wide receiver out of North Carolina.

1167
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: They also have two backs. They have two backs starting

1168
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: to gather steam. A big guy in a little dude. Yeah,

1169
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: and um yeah, So I think that's gonna be interesting too.

1170
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: That kind of gives you a little preview here again

1171
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: getting into bowl season. Those are your top position players,

1172
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: skill position guys going into this year's draft, at least

1173
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: some of them, and just keep a name on four

1174
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: or five. There will be at least four, maybe five

1175
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks taken in the first round. Um, you mentioned those

1176
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: two tight ends. Fear Mouth from Penn State should go

1177
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: five to thirty five overall, something like that to a

1178
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: million receivers. I don't know if it'll be a first

1179
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: round back or not this year. I kind of think

1180
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: a t N could be in that, you know, Edwards,

1181
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: Hilaire Mold maybe a good team grab Yeah. Um, that'll

1182
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: be interesting. But then a lot of second round guys,

1183
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of second round guys and and so I

1184
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: think if you're the Steelers, I think you didn't start

1185
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: looking at offensive new offensive lineman. He do you need

1186
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: helping the trenches and you need somebody to carry the football.

1187
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: Would it shock you at all if they stay put

1188
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: make three picks on the first two days and one

1189
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: of them is running back into our offensive lineman. Not

1190
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: one bit. No, that might be exactly doctor ordered. Yeah,

1191
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be so bad. But that was the fantasy

1192
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: football focus, so we will. You want to throw a

1193
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: more note out there. The best center in this draft

1194
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: is the Alabama kid who got he went off on

1195
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: a cart. And I hate to say this, but I'm

1196
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking maybe the Steelers can give them the

1197
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: fifth round now in red shirt him for a year

1198
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: or something. You can take that hurt that late. I

1199
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: think his names Frederickson or something like, Yeah, here's somebody

1200
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: to take notice of. I'm sure his stock dropped with

1201
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: an injury, which is unfortunate, but that's the game we played.

1202
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: That is the game henyway. We're gonna take a break.

1203
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk more Steelers and maybe

1204
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: you start taking a look at the Colts. We gotta

1205
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: do that. We've really got two shows this week, so

1206
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: we better start down that road right after this your

1207
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We are back. I'm Dale Lully here

1209
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson, and Matt's time to take a look

1210
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Colts team. We'll start off here by

1211
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: taking a look at their death chart. We're gonna do

1212
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: we picking guys already? Yeah, why not? We're looking at

1213
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: that chart. We don't have a lot of time ye

1214
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: buzzing through them. Uh so a quarterback, of course, the

1215
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: Colts have Philip Rivers. They used Jacobe Pricett in some

1216
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: short yardage situates, like the biggest towel on the planet. Yeah,

1217
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: and he's not even that good a runner because rivers

1218
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: can't move at all. Can't everything that they saw the

1219
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: last few weeks with with quarterbacks tucking the ball and

1220
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: right like read options stuff, there's not there's none of that.

1221
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: Not when rivers behind this is gonna be there's quarterback,

1222
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: there's Philip Rivers. Go get him, go get right. And

1223
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: they have a pretty good line, thank the Lord. And

1224
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: he's processing things well. But he's got a bad toe

1225
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: that he's getting surgery on and he couldn't move to

1226
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: begin with you, So he is the most immobile quarterback

1227
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: in the league. I am amberset guy, though, but when

1228
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: they bring him in, they treat him like he's Michael

1229
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: Vick and he's not good. A runner is better than Rivers. Um,

1230
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: I'll take the Colts, though, the way Roethlisberger is playing

1231
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: right now, I would say, yes, Um, you know, if

1232
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm picking, you know, I got one game, one quarterback

1233
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: to start this game site unseen who I'm taking Roethlisberger

1234
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: over Rivers. And I think overall, Roethlisberger's body of work

1235
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: this year has been better than in his career. And yeah,

1236
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna right now. I mean we do. We just

1237
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: spent two segments talking about it earlier. Roethlisberger is not

1238
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: playing up to that level. Now. Maybe he gets that

1239
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: back this week. Maybe he says, oh, that's Philip Rivers

1240
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: on the other sideline. I got out of play that guy. Yeah,

1241
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: and you and I were really hard on the Rivers move.

1242
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: It's worked out pretty well for them. He's been better

1243
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: than I thought he'd be because he doesn't he's cut

1244
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: down on the turnovers and I didn't know that he

1245
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: had him in him. He doesn't make a lot of

1246
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: big plays, but I also like Bursette. So if we're

1247
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback rooms, I'm taking the Colts running

1248
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: backs not even closer. You know, Jonathan Taylor and Nim Hines.

1249
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: That use both those guys, they they phase Jordan Wilkins

1250
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: out of the equation now, so that kind of helps that.

1251
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers could use Jordan Wilkins absolutely, and

1252
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: that's where they're at. And Taylor's looking like he might

1253
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: be a star. UH wide receiver, it's t Y Hilton,

1254
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Zach Pasqual. I thought Hilton was done and

1255
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: the last month he looks like he's got new juice.

1256
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 1: Um Pascal might be their number one though, like he's

1257
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: been stepping up. All three of those guys they mix

1258
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: in pretty well. I al still take the Steeler group

1259
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: tight end It's Jack Doyle, Trey Burton, mo the Great Moan,

1260
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus favorite. I like their tight end

1261
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 1: room better, but it's nothing to really write home about.

1262
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that's more that's more of a push, you know. Yeah,

1263
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: I've been underwhelmed with the Steelo's tight ends lately though.

1264
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: UH offensive line from left to right, Anthony Costanzo, Quentin Nelson,

1265
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, Mark Lewinsky, and Brandon Smith. Going into the season,

1266
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: this was the line and everybody said this is the

1267
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: best line in football. It's not been that this year,

1268
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: but it's still better than what the Steeler. It's still

1269
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's still pretty good. They're a little younger

1270
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 1: at the key spots that they're playing a little better

1271
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: than they were earlier in the year. Nelson's a really

1272
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: good player. Costanzo and Kelly are both real solid. It's

1273
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: a good group. It's a top five probably no line

1274
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I agree with um. This would be

1275
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: a theme of this team. I don't see tremendous strengths

1276
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: of the Colds, nor do I see big holes. Right, Yeah,

1277
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: I agree, You know I agree. On the defensive line, uh,

1278
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: left defensive end is justin Houston. It's the Forrest Buckner

1279
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: and left defensive tackle, over Stewart at right defensive tackle

1280
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: and Dnico Autry at right defensive end. Yeah, we're watching

1281
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: the famous Idaho Potato Bowl and the ref just got

1282
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: hit right in the face with the past in the

1283
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: face face. This is another d line that will use

1284
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: seven or shoulder shot on instant replay here. Yeah, you

1285
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: got Ben Banogue, come Houston doesn't play a ton of snaps.

1286
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Tykwon Lewis Uh the florest. Buckner is a superstar. Yeah,

1287
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: he's He's right there with Cam. I think he's in

1288
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: the Cam wat level of one of the best players

1289
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: in the league. Lived up to the first round hype

1290
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: that they paid for him. Also, take the Steeler from

1291
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: the other guys are just guys. Yeah, they're good. They're

1292
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: not great. Um, Buckner's great. They're too great defensive players

1293
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: actually at the linebacker position, Stereus Leonard, Anthony Walker, and

1294
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: Bobby Yeah, Um Leonard Leonard. Leonard's good. The other two

1295
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: guys are they're okay, okay. They like guys with long

1296
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: arms that are ranging. They all kind of look alike.

1297
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: Leonard's a star. Obviously, the Steelers could use all of

1298
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: them at the moment. Yeah. Uh, left cornerback, it's Kenny Moore.

1299
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: At right cornerback at Xavier Rhodes. Then you get that

1300
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: Rocky A. Sin plays a lot for them, and he stinks.

1301
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: Moore's really their slot. Yeah, but he's he's He's had

1302
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: to play because Rocky Sin has just been picked on consistently.

1303
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: To their credit, they've resurrected Rhodes's career. He was that

1304
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: bad last year. Um, I would think sin will get

1305
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: a lot of ballstone his way this week. Yes, it

1306
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: makes it perfect. It would not be a sin to

1307
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: throw Yeah, yeah, throw the rocket. Rocket wouldn't be a

1308
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: sin to throw the rocket because I mean really it's

1309
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: t J Carey, the other at Isaiah Rodgers, Traymont Smith.

1310
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: I mean they don't have another option there. No, they're

1311
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: a little light, they're a little wine. Yeah, I mean

1312
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers corners are definitely better there. And

1313
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: and this isn't a heavy blitz team. You can there's

1314
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: a lot of zone drops and you know what they're

1315
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: at and they don't you know, they're not real complex

1316
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: on defense execution base. Yeah, it's safety. It's Cary Willis

1317
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: and Julian Blackman, the rookie who's been good. Um, both

1318
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: those guys are really good pursuit of loves. Cary Willis

1319
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: from Michigan State Days. It's a really good young pair

1320
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: of safeties. It's not Manka, you know. I mean, I'll

1321
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: take the Steelers guys all day long, but I don't

1322
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: want to sleep on that group. I mean, they're probably

1323
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: not ten groups of safeties that take over those two,

1324
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: especially going forward. Um, so it's you know, it's it's

1325
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: gonna be. Uh, it's a good matchup. Yeah, it is. Um,

1326
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, strengths on strengths. You know, their offensive line

1327
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: against the Steelers defensive line. Right, the Steelers passing the

1328
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: game receivers have an advantage over their cover guys. Yeah,

1329
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean Buckner worries me even assuming Dotson's back,

1330
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: but let alone if it was Haws or Gray, I

1331
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: mean that would be very problematic. Yeah, we'll see. You

1332
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: know what, the Steelers come up with the kind of

1333
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: slow that down a little bit, and they do move

1334
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: Buckner around a little bit. They do. Um, he's more.

1335
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: He should be more on the castro than anyone if

1336
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: history tells us. But they might just put him over

1337
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: the right. They might say, hey, we got we got

1338
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: a rookie over here. Let's see what he does with

1339
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: with this. He's absolutely the straw that serves a drink. Um,

1340
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: he's a better. He's very long. He's remember this when

1341
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: he came out of Oregon. His hands are so big

1342
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: that he can pick up a twelve inch ruler and

1343
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: like Palmit, just grab the thing. Um, but he's very long.

1344
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: Their worst run defense day was the day he was out.

1345
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: But he's better rushing the pastor. I mean, he's a

1346
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: complete package. If you look at this, uh, this Colts team, Um,

1347
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: who they've beaten and who they've lost too. Uh, it's

1348
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: not super impressed. I mean they lost to Jacksonville. I've

1349
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: read something. I actually sent it to you. I wrote

1350
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: an article for Steel's Digest, and I previewed all the

1351
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: the a f C teams and I just read this

1352
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: before I turned it in. They have four wins against

1353
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: teams that already fired their head coach, which is That's

1354
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm just gonna go through the schedule.

1355
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: They beat Jacksonville, They're gonna fire their coach at the

1356
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: end of the season, right They're one of their wins

1357
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: is against Jacksonville. Since then, Uh, they beat the Vikings

1358
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: in weeks two when the Vikings were just they were

1359
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: a bad team at that point. They beat the Jets

1360
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: thirty six to seven in Week three, beat the Bears

1361
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: in Week four, nineteen eleven. I want people to think

1362
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: about this before we get too in. I also am

1363
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: almost positive the Colts defense has faced the easiest lady

1364
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: of office. Yeah, I mean none of those were good

1365
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 1: at the time. Lost to Cleveland, Yeah, beat the Bengals

1366
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven, that was when Burrow was still playing. Then no,

1367
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: then they beat Detroit, fired the head coach, lost to

1368
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens, beat the beat the Titans. That's what thirty seventeen,

1369
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: that's when, you know, the best way in the year,

1370
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: the best win of the year, No about, no doubt.

1371
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: They did eat Green Bay at home. Yeah, that was

1372
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: a bit that way, but then they lost the Titans.

1373
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: They've beaten They played the Texans two in the last

1374
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 1: three weeks. Again, that's two of their four that didn't

1375
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: have a head coach, So that they're they've got a

1376
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: three game winning streak, two against the Texans, one against

1377
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders, who were just falling apart right now. Um,

1378
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that schedule. I don't know what to think, Like,

1379
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: is Philip you know you said you mentioned Philip Rivers

1380
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: really turned the corner. Okay, so the last four weeks

1381
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: he's played the Titans, Texans, Raiders, and Texans. Those are

1382
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: four the worst defenses you can I mean just awful.

1383
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: Raiders are really really bad too, and Yeah, the schedule

1384
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: is a little stunning, you know when you factor in

1385
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: four of their games the guys didn't have their head coach,

1386
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: and boy, they played some bad offense. I mean, I look,

1387
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: you know against the against the Ravens, Uh, they had

1388
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: two twenty seven passing yards, turned the ball over twice.

1389
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: You know what I think I misspoke. I think they've

1390
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: faced the easiest slated defenses in the league. Yeah, that's why,

1391
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Yeah, it was definitely defensive, because

1392
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: there's some bad, bad ones there. Yeah, the rest of

1393
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: the division. Some of their offenses they faced two are

1394
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: not not so great. But look at the rest of

1395
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: the a f C South defense. There's not a defense

1396
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: in the whole division. No, right, Coltson like the worst

1397
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: in the league. Um So, I don't know how good

1398
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: they really are. Um I think their product the last

1399
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: month or so it's pretty strong. You know, Hilton has

1400
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: played better Rivers, Taylor, those guys of all. But is

1401
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: that a product though, of who they've played, Because here's

1402
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: the other side of the equation on this. In their

1403
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: last four games again playing Tennessee Houston, the Raiders in Houston,

1404
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: they've given up four yards. Wow, those teams. Now, Tennessee

1405
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: offenses are really good. They lost to Tennessee. Tennessee didn't

1406
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: turn the football over the last three weeks it's been

1407
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: to turnvers force three turnovers, force two turnovers. Force, don't

1408
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: turn the football over against these guys. You should be

1409
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: on the movie, even the Steelers right now as currently

1410
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta bring that up like every segment,

1411
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: just don't turn the ball, don't turn the football that

1412
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: you should be able to move the football. I mean,

1413
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: even if Ben is not accurate, if it's not for

1414
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: those three turnovers last night, they still probably they win

1415
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, even if you instead of turning the

1416
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: football over, if you're punting those situations, because the Bengals

1417
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: showed I mean, they couldn't get a sustained drive, you know,

1418
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: going because they weren't gonna they weren't going to throw

1419
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: the football, right, and you allowed them to do that. Yeah,

1420
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: and this team will be better, obviously, But if you

1421
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: give them gifts like that, forget about it. And even

1422
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: the Colts d I remember like week four or five, six,

1423
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: they were right there with the Steelers statistically, but they

1424
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: hadn't played anybody, you know, And now that's come they've

1425
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: come back to reality. I mean, they give up the

1426
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: one yards in that opener against Jacksonville, which they lost, lost.

1427
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: They give up a hundred seventy five to the Vikings

1428
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: in Week two, and the Vikings were just in an

1429
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: awful place. They like justin Jefferson wasn't starting them. To

1430
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: sixty to the Jets, to sixty nine to the Bears. Um.

1431
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: But since then it's been three five to the Browns,

1432
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 1: to the Bengals, three six to the Lions, to sixty

1433
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: six to the Ravens. The Ravens offense is not but

1434
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens still won the game that they didn't have

1435
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: to do a whole lot um because they forced some

1436
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: turnovers really bad to the Titans in that first meeting

1437
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: three sixty seven four nine. That's been the last month

1438
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: that's been in the I I think the Steelers will

1439
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: move the football in this game if if they get things,

1440
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: and I think it's hard to say that after the

1441
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 1: last it is, there's no dabt, but boy, history showed

1442
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: over for fourteen games that they should be able to

1443
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: exploit those type of defenses and move the football. You know,

1444
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: glass half full. It's like wow, I think they might

1445
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: be able to run okay, right, and I think that's true.

1446
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: And I think the Steelers quarterback can't play worse than that.

1447
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, that was the worst half of football I've

1448
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: ever seen him play. It has to be the worst half.

1449
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: He can't eat. I mean, so it can only go

1450
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: up from there. I mean, they had two hundred yards

1451
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: of offense in the second half of that game, right,

1452
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: that looked like the Steelers office. You know. It wasn't

1453
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: perfect and they were coming from behind. But it's not

1454
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna be perfect. It needs to be league average. I

1455
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, and to our earlier conversation, I

1456
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: trust Ben will get it right. He's super competitive, he's

1457
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: super talented, he's a Hall of Famer. He had some

1458
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 1: amazing milestones last night too. Oh by the way, that nobody,

1459
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: very few people in history have done. I mean, I

1460
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: trust him. But that's it was a bad showing. It

1461
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: was and and uh, you know that again, if maybe

1462
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: they needed to hit rock bottom, we kept saying, one,

1463
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: this has gotta be rock bottom. Well, that's gotta be

1464
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: rock bottom. This has gotta I mean, you lose to Washington, Washingtons,

1465
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: all right, Washington's all right, at least, you know, you

1466
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: lost to a division leader. Yes, you lost, well, you

1467
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: lost to a second division leader, you know in the Bills. Yeah,

1468
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: you lost last night to a bad football team because

1469
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: you gave it to him. That's an embarrassing loss. He

1470
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: gave TV. And that's all it was we're talking about.

1471
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean, almost overshadows the Jets win. But I thought

1472
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: that after last week, you know, I mean, I can't

1473
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: just keep saying this is rock bottom because I said

1474
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: down the radio a hundred times last week, I'll guarantee

1475
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 1: you it's all up, premire. It was worse. It was worse,

1476
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: and and it can't be any worse than that. Believe

1477
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: that keeps up. But I thought that a week ago, Yeah,

1478
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: at home against a good team, a team that you're

1479
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna potentially see in the playoffs, and next you know,

1480
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: essentially the playoffs start this week for the Steelers, except

1481
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: there's no elimination. Except there's no elimination right now. You're

1482
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: playing playoff team. You're playing playoff teams the next two weeks.

1483
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: This is what you're going to see the rest of

1484
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: the season. This is where you measure yourself. I mean,

1485
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: Tom went at home against good teams in the a

1486
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: f C has pretty darn good track record, so we'll see.

1487
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lali. You're listening

1488
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna

1489
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: take a break, be right back after this your tunes

1490
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,879
Speaker 1: about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

1491
01:19:26,080 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back up, Dale Allen here with Matt

1492
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt. It's uh Tuesday, So Tuesday, it's kind

1493
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: of like Thursday. This week's Power rankings day. I was

1494
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: hard on the Steelers. I'm sure you were. And we're

1495
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: looking here at Dan Hansis's rankings on the NFL dot Com.

1496
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: He dropped the Jaguars down to dead last week. They've

1497
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: lost thirteen games in a row. And if you if

1498
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: you've watched that game against the Ravens on Sunday, they're

1499
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: waving the white flag right, but they get Trevor Lawrence

1500
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: on the deal. Quite possibly, you had to move the

1501
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: Jets and Bengals ahead of them. You had to because

1502
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: they just played better games. But I didn't put it

1503
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: either one of those ones past thirty. No, no, and

1504
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: neither did. He bumped the Jets up one to thirty one.

1505
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: The Bengals remain at thirty. Yeah. Um, the Lions fault

1506
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: to number twenty. Had a hard time finding who's next,

1507
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, they deserve. The Texans move up a spot

1508
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson and nothing, nothing else, nothing else. Carolina

1509
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: Panthers holding steady at twenty seven. They've lost a lot

1510
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: of games, like seven out of eight or eight out

1511
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: of nine or something like that. He dropped the forty

1512
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: Niners down five spots to twenty six. Had hard that

1513
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: neighborhood was hard for me, And I'm like, Niners can't

1514
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: beat anybody right now. They can't. Yeah, Nick Mullins is

1515
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: bad to disaster. Dropped the Broncos rosen an hour ago.

1516
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: By the way, he dropped the Broncos five spots to

1517
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: twenty five, it's hard on them too, Yeah, I mean

1518
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: you get yeah, they weren't competitive. Um, the Eagles move

1519
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: up a spot to twenty four. I may even moved

1520
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: them a little higher. And I'm still not a herd believer.

1521
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it one of things. So the quarterback situation solved,

1522
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: it's not I don't know about that. It's not that's

1523
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: it's just gotten to be more of a mess, that's

1524
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: what that's what that turned into. The Falcons stayed even

1525
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: at twenty three at four and ten. They can't run

1526
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: the ball or put teams away. They can't. Yeah, they

1527
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know how to win. No. Uh. The Cowboys move

1528
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: up two spots at five and nine to twenty two.

1529
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: They're playing better. That's it was a little that wasn't

1530
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: quite that gracious to them, But they're playing better. Yeah,

1531
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: they're okay. The Patriots fall three spots to twenty one.

1532
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: That's where they belong. They don't many talent, they don't.

1533
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: They're just they're bad bad. Miami ran all over them. Yeah.

1534
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: The Vikings moved down three spots at six and eight.

1535
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: They're done. Yeah, they're done. Defense is bad at nineteen.

1536
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: The New York Football Giants at five and nine. They're

1537
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: not in a great place. Yeah. All these day these

1538
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: NFC North teams are moved up a little bit from

1539
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: the East teams. I should see it, moved up a

1540
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: little bit from where they were earlier in the year.

1541
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: I agree with in the Washington is the best team

1542
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: in the division. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt

1543
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: about that. The Raiders fall two spots to eighteen at

1544
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: seven and seven. It's just awful. Yeah, it's awful. They've

1545
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: played very poorly over the last month. But Mariota is interesting.

1546
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: But they can't stop anybody. He moved the Chargers up

1547
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: five spots to seventeen. I'm sorry. They just lost. They

1548
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: just lost forty five nothing in week thirteen to the

1549
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Patriots pots who are low. So you beat you beat

1550
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders, big deal. You're still a bad football team.

1551
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: They are. I don't know how many of those teams

1552
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: we just mentioned I put ahead of them. They're all

1553
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: on the same yucky tier for being as ni as

1554
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: they actually are. But no, they got problems. Um it's sixteen.

1555
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: The Bears move up ten spots too. I put them.

1556
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: I think they're better than all those teams we just mentioned.

1557
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: They're winning games and they're moving the ball, and Travisky

1558
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: has not been horrible. And yeah, Bill Laser took over

1559
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 1: play calling and they beat in the Texans and Vikings.

1560
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: It's a common theme here when we're talking about what

1561
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: they beat the Texans. There's a lot of that in

1562
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: the league right now. Number number fifteen at six and eight.

1563
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: The Washington football team. Can they get the eight and

1564
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: eight to win the division to save the the NFL.

1565
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: The indignity of having a Yeah, they're hard to play against.

1566
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: The defense is good, they're well coached. I mean they'll

1567
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: win the division. I think yeah, I think so. UM

1568
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: at fourteen the Arizona Cardinals at eight and six. They

1569
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: moved down a spot despite winning last week. I had

1570
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers at fourteen. I don't know if I go

1571
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: that far. The thirteen or fourteen with them, you were

1572
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: really harsh and not very happy at the end of

1573
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 1: the evening last night. UH at thirteen the Miami Dolphins.

1574
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 1: If the Steelers play the Dolphins right now, the Steelers

1575
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins, the Steelers beat the Cardinals. Those were

1576
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: the three teams. I was torn. I put the Steelers

1577
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: behind both of them. They would beat both of those teams.

1578
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: I thought they beat the Bengals. I had this, I

1579
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: have no doubt. At twelve vs. Tampa Bay. Wow, it's

1580
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: a little harsh. I mean they started really bad and

1581
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: came back strong defenses to be they had to play

1582
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: the Falcon like it's it's the you got you dug

1583
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: yourself at twenty point hole against the Falcons and had

1584
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 1: come storming back Now, the Steelers didn't do that. I

1585
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: get at No, I get it, but this neighborhood was

1586
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: hard to rank two. I mean there's about eight teams

1587
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: that are all with massive warts but good records, and

1588
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, eleven down six spots he has the Steelers. Okay, Yeah,

1589
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: I mean I was a little harder, but I took

1590
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: it personally. Yeah, uh ten down only four spots to Rams.

1591
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,839
Speaker 1: I was nicer to the Rams and I was the Steelers.

1592
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: And trust me, my Twitter followers, I don't think there

1593
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: was any difference there between what the two did. My

1594
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: thought was it was an isolated incident. It wasn't a month.

1595
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it was though. I mean, they've lost some,

1596
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: but you could say, you could say the Steeler Okay,

1597
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: the Rams have lost uh niners, which doesn't look great.

1598
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: They have some bad they're nine in five, they're not

1599
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: a they have some bad game. They have some when

1600
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: they're bad, they're really bad. Yeah. You know, when he's

1601
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: much like what we're talking about with the Steelers, when

1602
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback is bad, you're gonna be bad. Um. Now,

1603
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's in a bad stretch, off will look good and

1604
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: then bad in the next game, we're good and then

1605
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 1: bad in the next series. I think the Rams are

1606
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: favored by six against the Steelers right now potentially. Yeah,

1607
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean where you're at the second is how I

1608
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: do hear you? Um, I'm not saying Steelers can't rebound

1609
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: and be I think much better than all those. I

1610
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: think the Steelers defense would just eat your golf alive

1611
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: and defense we eat the Steelers along. There's potential might

1612
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: be the best to defensively. I think they are. Yeah. Um,

1613
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: number nine up a spot, the Colts. Yeah, we've talked

1614
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: about obviously. Uh. Number eight up three spots the Titans.

1615
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: There's a team actually hanging out there that I am

1616
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: not as nice too. I think kind of see's pretty good.

1617
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: But their defenses, defenses, they don't rush the pass in

1618
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: the league. They average a sack of game which is

1619
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: thirty second. Number seven the Seahawks. Wilson hasn't done what

1620
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, people are playing two. It was not pretty

1621
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: against Washington on their defense is okay. That's another team.

1622
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: I think we'll get it right. But they have some

1623
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: issues too, like Tyler Lockett's not lighten it up and

1624
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: met Capine slower and all of a sudden, they're not

1625
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: as scary as they used to be on offense. Hear you, uh,

1626
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: number six up three spots the Cleveland Browns. I wasn't

1627
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: that nice to them. They were like tenth for me.

1628
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: They didn't look great against the I mean the Giants

1629
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: didn't have the starting quarterback and their entire secondary was

1630
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: decimated that I don't know what. The Browns defense is

1631
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: much better than that, and I'll take Tennessee's offense over them. Absolutely.

1632
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: It's another one. I got a lot of heat from

1633
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: you hate the Browns because they fired you twenty years ago. Like,

1634
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: I really don't hold that any games. It's a completely

1635
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: different organization. Yeah, I just don't think they're great. I

1636
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: think they're going the right direction. But this is one.

1637
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: I I the Ravens at number five up three spots.

1638
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I think I have like seven five is I mean

1639
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: piping the floor of the Jags? Doesn't the Jags who

1640
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: have put up the white flag. And I'm sorry that

1641
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: I that many great teams though. That's the That's the

1642
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: thing when people keep hard, when people keep asking me,

1643
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: what you know, can the Steelers turn this around? Him? Like, yeah,

1644
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: they just have to do some things a little bit

1645
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: better than what they're doing here and then and they

1646
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: can get back to being what they you know that

1647
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: the run the ball, get it. But they're not gonna

1648
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: they still they're still not throwing the football. Well, no, no,

1649
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: nor do they have to. And the defense is fine,

1650
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: it's it's not what it has been. You know, when

1651
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: you think the Ravens they got a good defense, they

1652
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: really don't know. They don't. They don't rush the pastor

1653
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: particularly well either. I mean Judon made that that's you know,

1654
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl vote came. Juda makes the Pro Bowl

1655
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: with five sacks. Five sacks, but had a way better

1656
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: year in him and he's missed the last three games. Uh.

1657
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Number four down a spot New Orleans. I think I

1658
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: kept them a little higher than that. Awful well his

1659
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: first game coming back and five, I think he can. Yeah,

1660
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: they did. They kept him and cheered for much of

1661
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: that game. Number three the Packers. They didn't play well either, No,

1662
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean they got up on the Panthers a horrible

1663
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: second half. They eat sixteen against the Panthers. Number two

1664
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo they were two for me too, that that was

1665
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: an easy one actually. And Number one Kansas City, of course,

1666
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: is holding say. I had to take an issue though,

1667
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: with one thing that he wrote here about about the Steelers.

1668
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: H At the end of his little synopsis, Um, he said,

1669
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: the chance of the playoff by is all but history. Yeah,

1670
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: no kidding, Um. The Steelers now need to worry about

1671
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: holding off the charging Ravens and Browns in the a

1672
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 1: f C North. Hey, Dan, the Ravens can't win the North.

1673
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: They're they're eliminated from winning the a f C North.

1674
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: They can't do it. So it's either the Browns are

1675
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers. There's there's there's nothing in between. False. Yeah, uh,

1676
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what to take out of that.

1677
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the Browns are a contender.

1678
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens could be a kid. I think

1679
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: they could be. I mean there, but I don't think

1680
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: we'll know that going into the playoffs because of who

1681
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: they played down the stretch. We called this a month ago,

1682
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: but everyone's gonna call the Ravens the hot team that

1683
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: nobody wants to play because they don't play anybody ntil now.

1684
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Their their schedule is just awful going into the postseason.

1685
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: Steelers have had these benefits throughout the year. Too, I mean,

1686
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,879
Speaker 1: but you can't ignore it. There's I would be interested.

1687
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: It would take a lot longer than the next three

1688
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: or four minutes to tear the NFL right now, because

1689
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: I still think there's three at the bottom. I kind

1690
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: of feel like the Chiefs are at the top and

1691
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a clear number two. And then there's like

1692
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: ten other teams that we're going to go to the

1693
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: playoffs and do good things. But then you watch them

1694
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: and they have a bad game. The Steelers played the

1695
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: played their way into that tier, right They used to

1696
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: be in the other tier, you know, and now they

1697
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: certainly deserved that other one. And then there's a lot

1698
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: of bad teams like the Falcons, Lions, Carolina. You know,

1699
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: like there's twelve of those that are pretty aren't bad

1700
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: right now. You know. Let's put it this way. If

1701
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is back this week, can the Ravens lose

1702
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: to the Giants because the Giants could stop them. Giants

1703
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: can stop the run. I mean, they could make them

1704
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: play left handed. And the thing that Cleveland exploited on

1705
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Sunday night was the Giants secondary which was all banged up.

1706
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh Cleveland came by throwing It was no, Bradberry, we

1707
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: know they don't rush the pastor well, that's one thing

1708
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to get Cleveland credit for. Though the last

1709
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: two weeks they've come out throwing and it's worked, you know,

1710
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: against the Titans and the Giants with like you said,

1711
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 1: we're banged up. That's smart, that's good coaching, and it

1712
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: worked and Baker made it happen. But will Yeah, that's

1713
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: not The Ravens aren't gonna change for any the average

1714
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: nine Lamar is averaging eighty nine passing yards per game

1715
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: in today's NFL. Yeah, I mean, and by no means

1716
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: it's hardbar gonna be like, we want Lamar to get

1717
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: to two seventy five and we're gonna sling it four times.

1718
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna play that. We're not going to do that.

1719
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: And and the Giants defensive line will give them problems,

1720
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: my the problems. Will the Giants be able to hold

1721
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: up their end of the deal offensively, that's the question.

1722
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: That's the question. But it's gonna be able to slug

1723
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: it out type of game for them to compete. I

1724
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,719
Speaker 1: was pretty high on the Giants two weeks ago. Here's

1725
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the thing, and this came up one last thing or

1726
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: before we're done with the show here, somebody brought up,

1727
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: uh my, my coworker day On Kovakovic wrote a story about,

1728
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: you know some things that to look at right now

1729
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: that at this season with the Steelers before Sunday or

1730
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: before yesterday's game, you know some things that have happened here,

1731
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: and um, somebody put in the comments that, yeah, but

1732
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Ben's Ben's the He's got the fewest forty yard passers

1733
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm like, that doesn't sound right, So

1734
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I went and looked it up. Roethlisberger, this was going

1735
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: into yesterday's game, through this going into this weekend, had

1736
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: four forty yard passes completions this year. Um, that's tied

1737
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield. They both have four. Lamar Jackson has three,

1738
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had two. So as bad as that has been,

1739
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: that's the division, right. That's kind of funny. Yeah, you know,

1740
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: so none of these teams are really throwing the ball

1741
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: down the field and through a ton Yeah, like crazy,

1742
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: but everything was kind of shorter. Lamar is not hitting

1743
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 1: those throws down the field either. I guarantee, if I

1744
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: if I looked at his his deep numbers compared to

1745
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's numbers, they might be pretty damn similar somewhere, and

1746
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: Baker's not really either, you know, And and that's that's

1747
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,560
Speaker 1: something they do, is play action, take a shot. You know.

1748
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: They've been more ball control through the air. Too. It's interesting.

1749
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the North doesn't have deep passors. Yea.

1750
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: They have three promising young quarterbacks and the Hall of Famer,

1751
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: but none of them are exactly hitting the bombs. Yeah,

1752
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know what to expect here.

1753
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean, as you mentioned, every team has words, um,

1754
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: including the Chiefs. Including the Chiefs, there's no doubt about it.

1755
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they got some problems. Um. I'm just you know,

1756
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: if the Steelers win this week, Um, let's say they

1757
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: get things back on track. You win these last two

1758
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: games against playing, everybody's gonna be Yeah, everybody's gonna be

1759
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: back on the bandwagon. With that. Going from eleven and

1760
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: oh to eleven and three, you're going to get criticized

1761
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: and shows the world how quickly the NFL can change,

1762
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: and not for long it is for real. I mean,

1763
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 1: if they were eleven and three at this point but

1764
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: had lost one like a month along the way, yeah,

1765
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: I want to be losing their mind. But I mean

1766
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: that's that's the right perception. And but if they can

1767
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: get it back on track, I think it's your point.

1768
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: If you beat these two playoff teams and you look good,

1769
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have him third in the power rights, right,

1770
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: don't don't jump right back up because of the teams

1771
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: that they've beaten, and they'll be like, boy, this team

1772
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: has been there, done it, they got rings, they've turned

1773
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 1: it around. Yeah, defense in the league. I mean, you

1774
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: don't have to spin too hard to see that. No,

1775
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: he really don't. It could happen. I will see if

1776
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 1: it does happen. That's the that's a key. He is

1777
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. We want to thank Jacob

1778
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Wreck for keeping us on the air here and we

1779
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: want to thank you for listening to this edition of

1780
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back again tomorrow,

1781
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: uh and that will be the last show for the

1782
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: week this week, and then of course we'll be back

1783
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: again next Monday. After that they bring you through the

1784
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: New Year's week and of course lead it into that

1785
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 1: Browns game. So we will we'll see you tomorrow