1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: with our Radio. It's episode two of this week for 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcast. We're lucky enough today to have 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: two of the um most screen time contestants this season 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: on Bachelor and Paradise, at least for the last few weeks. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Justin and Joey, the twins as we like to know them, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: are here with us. Hello, fellows, what's up? How are you? 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Time? Long time to see you, guys, 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: spoke on the podcast. I wasn't on that one. Oh yeah, 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: you missed out. Oh man, okay, well then I won't 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: be asking questions about last season. I forgot that you 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: guys have already been on here. Well, how surprised were 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: you to get the phone call that you were headed 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: to Bachelor in Paradise or that they would like you 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: to head to Bachelor in Paradise because you guys got 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: eliminated Night one. Yeah, we were, we were. We're common shock, 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: but we maybe almost even expected because pretty much literally 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: a week later after like we were eliminated from from 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: night when we kind of got the call like we're 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: going to consider you, that's for Paradise. We're like, oh, 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: really like we weren't really expecting it so early. We 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: were kind of weary about it too. We were like, 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to go through this again, 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: like is it gonna go bad for us? But how 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: we're excited about it. Yeah, I was the same way. 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I think, like going home on night one, it really 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of changed my perspective on Battor Nation as a whole. 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: So I was like, do I really want to go 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: back and maybe have the chance of being on there 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: one day and then I don't get a rose again? 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: So um, knowing that, you know, I took that in 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: consideration and we went back. So it's it's working well. 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: So so would you say it was a tough decision then? 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Was it? Was there a lot of back and forth 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: between the two of you. Did Was there ever a 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: chance that one of you would go and one of 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't? Yeah, we thought about that, to be honest. 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: It was because we thought with that, you know, that 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: twin dynamic, it didn't really it came across a little 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: bit different on the bat Thorette. So having us maybe 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: one maybe it's just Joey God just me go would 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: maybe make things a little bit different a little bit 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: more success, you know, with a relationship. But we always 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: knew we were gonna do this together. We were in 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: it together once. It's going to happen again. So what 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: we kind of figured, being on Paradise, we'll kind of 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really kind of build our own 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: relationships separately because there's multiple options instead of just like 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: two options. So yeah, so we kind of figured it 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: would kind of work well and play into that. So 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't know it worked well for us. I feel 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: like so far, So if you guys were to ever 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: actually split and go into Paradise so low, who would 54 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: be the one going? Or will we fight out for that? 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Definitely fight over that. I think can make it like 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: a number, like a decision like that right away. I 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: feel like we'd have to. I don't even know who 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: we would choose, honestly, but I mean, I think we 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: both would love to do it. But I personally think 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Joey I think he'd be a little bit better than me. 61 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit more sporadic in the 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: paradise type setting. I kind of bounce around as maybe 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: you've seen my time here now, So I think Joey 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: would be a little bit better. But at the same time, 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that that could be determined later. 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I guess, what, what were your expectations going in, So 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: you obviously get the ask. You both decided to go. 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: As you're showing up the into the beach, what did 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: you think was gonna happen? Um, honestly, since we were 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: showing up, but we kind of showed up at a 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: later point, I feel like when a lot of the 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: connections are already built, so we kind of going again. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: I just expected, like, oh, maybe I'll find someone right away, 74 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Like maybe I'll just click instantly, someone will be available, 75 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe, And then I didn't expect any 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: of this what's been happening so far, me staying on 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: this long kind of building the milest ships so far 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: with Shine. Did not expect that in the slightest bit, 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I was kind of the opposite of that. 80 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I expected to develop a relationship and I wanted to 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: do that. That was my goal being I think that's 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: anyone's goal that's going on to the Bachelor itself. So 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to do that, and I knew I was 84 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna do this and want any way I could, and 85 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's working out now. So there it is. 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Do you guys ever switch and pretend like each other 87 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: is the other the opposite one? And did the cast 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: have any issue telling you? Apart the whole cast? I 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: still to this day, I don't think they could tell 90 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: us part I wear a gold and he wears silver. 91 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: I think that was the main telling point. But if 92 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: it was covered, they couldn't tell, not at all. What 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: about the girls that you're dating, did they tell blow 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: was really good at it? They're they're pretty like they 95 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: caught on pretty quick, but I guess they're with us 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: so much and they can kind of tell we like 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: act a little different, kind of speak a little bit. 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: I think after that double date, Yeah, like all all 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: that time together, they were right away able to just 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's just that's Joey. And it was 101 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: cool to see that because that doesn't happen often. It 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: really doesn't, know, so seeing that it definitely developed kind 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: of even a greater attachment to flow for me, because 104 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: not everyone does that, and if they do, it's a 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: different type of relationship. You guys are the prey of 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: some cougars. You guys are twenty four and you were 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: dating all girls in their third Well, Che I think 108 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: is thirty. Then we have um Mara who's thirty three, 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: and then there's Flow who's thirty two. Yeah, but you 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: guys said that you've never been you've never dated an 111 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: older woman before, So how was it you getta you're 112 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: doing it again? Are you still dating these ladies? We 113 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: can't give those But um, I think I was never opposed, 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: but I just never honestly had the opportunity to do it. 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: So I mean I had, like you know, like it 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: came up and there's no complainance to the ere with it. 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't really see a difference honestly. I think, yeah, 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: with this age thing, I've been seeing it around everywhere. Um, 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: I am twenty four, yes, but there's um other testans 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: on the show to who are twenty six, and you 121 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: know they're dating older women as well. And I think 122 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: for us, for some reason, that's just a very big 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: attachment to us that we're super young when I'm only 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: really a year younger and I know these women are older, 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: but I feel like for our age where we're a 126 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: lot more mature than a lot of people, exactly like 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I have. We both have to master's degree from full 128 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: careers and things like that, so like we're I think 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: we're a lot more mature than people actually think we are, 130 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: So maybe the age things a little bit. Yeah, we're young, 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: but we can definitely obviously did an older woman if 132 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: it's the chance, And it's looking well right now, so 133 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: that's what matters to me. Well, and it doesn't look 134 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of pain on either one of 135 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: your faces, so we'll see how this plays out. Well. 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: It brings me to something I wondered about two of you. 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Obviously you did come in late to the beach, relationships 138 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: were already said. I'm sure you both had your your 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: wish list as they say, you're kind of top three 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: that you're looking for. Um, when you found out that 141 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: you know Flow and Hi, we're going to be the 142 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: two that were most available, are you excited initially? Were 143 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you hesitant? Where you disappointed that the beach didn't have 144 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: more singles to offer you, um, a little bit of everything? Um. 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: I think I was a little hesitant because of the 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: age and I'm being perceived being young to these older women, 147 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: which actually happened. So I think I was a little 148 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: hesitant on that on that um Um reserve, but I 149 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: mean I was just willing to go with it and 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: just really see where it goes. Um. I kind of 151 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: like just to go off that. I kind of went 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: in not really like I didn't really have a list 153 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: of people per se I was looking for. I didn't like. 154 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I just kind of went as a wild card, like 155 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: whoever I thought I could connect with the best, That's 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna go for. And so like an age 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: limit anything like that didn't really matter to me. Yeah, 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: obviously at first I was like, maybe the age thing 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: will be little of a problem, but I mean, obviously, 160 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: so it kind of it's good to take. You have 161 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: to take a risk when you're at Paradise, and I'm 162 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: glad and took that risk and did that. And what 163 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: was funny for me too, was my best conversation was 164 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: with Flow exactly, and we spoke to all the women there, 165 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and my best combo was with Flow initially anyways, So 166 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: it worked out in that way for me. We definitely 167 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: connected the most, and I think the same thing with So. Yeah, 168 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's really where it came down to. 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Of course we were hesitant, but you take the risk, 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: like you said, and that was tell me if this 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: perception of you is right. I imagine you guys is 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: like twelve year old boys through eighteen years watching the 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: show with your mom and then all of a sudden, 174 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: your mom gets her two sons on Bachelor, Bachelor, Bachelor 175 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: in Paradise. We have a really close relationship with our mom. 176 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Honestly though I've never watched the show. I've only watched 177 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: one season before this when I was like in college, 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: so I never honestly, I never watched with my parents 179 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: are really anything, honestly, So it wasn't really I guess 180 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: that wasn't really. Yeah, it was just more we have 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: a close relationship with our parents and our mom. Obviously, 182 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: I think as Italians like it's a big thing. But um, no, 183 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: that's not a perception I think at all. I think 184 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: we're established at our age where we're independent from our parents. 185 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Were not these little twelve year old little boys that 186 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: people are perceiving us. As you know, we carry our 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: own we like to carol, and you know, I think 188 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: even again to um, we displayed more maturity than some 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: guys on the beach or older than us, and people 190 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: have been saying that, and I think, you know, if 191 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: if I was twelve, we're not going to just play 192 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: that maturity. So um, so yeah, I think that's a 193 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: good answer to that. So justin what are you moving 194 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: to Australia? No, I got my plight booked. You know, 195 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking at places now to go down there. So 196 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: all right, well, guys, thank you so much for coming on. 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I've got to ask my 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: last question for you. Yes, how many double dates do 199 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: you go on a year? Honestly, we actually we've only 200 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: been really I'd say that was probably ever the third 201 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: double date ever. Really, we really don't go on a 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of double days. We're really in that dating world. 203 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: We're really independent from each other. I mean, look, we 204 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: like when the girls we do date our friends or 205 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: become friends, and I think that's huge. But we like 206 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: to have that independence because we're always together and you know, 207 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: as being a twin you know, you're always uh connected 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: to each other, but you've got to split that connection somehow, 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: and that's in the dating world. And you know, we're 210 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: also very different. I feel like in the dating world, 211 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: like you can awesome, you can just tell from our 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: relationships pretty much right now, like how they perceived. We're 213 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: just very kind of different in that way, so we 214 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: attract different girls, so maybe they might not always match, 215 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: or we just don't always have the way to go 216 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: on a double day with them, so we don't really 217 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: actually go on many But it was it was I 218 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: loved this. It was fun though. I can't can't complain 219 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: at all. Well, if if there's a title for interview, 220 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: it's independence and maturity, uh and self sufficiency, Like, um, 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: you guys would have been a great match for Kate 222 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: because Kate seems to only be looking for financial security. 223 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Person she's doing she's doing Yeah, she's saying that, she 224 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: said a lot. She's doing Logan wrong. I think I 225 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: love Logan too, and I know he's he really is 226 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: established in his in his career, in his life. I 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: love them, and I just think, you know, she's doing 228 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: it wrong and there's no need for that. I don't know, Okay, 229 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: it's got to combat down a little bit. Hey, Justin, 230 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: Joey thinks for coming on. Best of luck with the 231 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: rest of the season. We can't wait to see what 232 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: these love stories play out. And Justin, when you make 233 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: it to Australia takes some pictures. I hear it's beautiful. 234 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: Come on down Ben you we can go out to 235 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: a little double date down there, right all right, guy, 236 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: you tease the last episode. We're talking about it today 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel arrive. We talked about it, we hinted 238 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: at it last week, we're talking about it this week. 239 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: Actually we mentioned last week we'll talk about again that 240 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: it would be a little weird for past leads maybe 241 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: to show up to the beach so soon after these 242 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: guys have left their season. I don't think we ever 243 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: see that, like turnover so fast and them to be like, 244 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're here. I think it's actually even 245 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: before tell All may tape, Like these guys might be 246 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: saying these girls before they even see them at the 247 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: tell All, which is jarring three weeks three weeks. See. 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: So the whole point of them sending in these guys 249 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: and these girls is to freak out the guys um 250 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: and make them they think that they're going to sit 251 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: down with the girls and all of a sudden, Gabby 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: and Rachel are gonna talk smack about them um, and 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: then they're gonna like then their girls are gonna have 254 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: all these new doubts. This is particularly about, well, Tyler 255 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: wasn't nervous at all because Tyler was just like everybody's favorite. 256 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: And then the girls basically told m Brittany like, oh 257 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: my god, we're so happy that he's with someone because 258 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: he's so sweet, and like, we're so rooting for him. 259 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: And then a Logan was really the one that was 260 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: worried that they were going to say something to Kate, 261 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: because well, the girls are friends with Kate and Logan 262 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: was the one who flip flopped. And not only did 263 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: Logan flip flop in on the Bachelorette, but he also 264 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: has dated around a bit in Paradise. Um. But like, 265 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, she didn't. She's not really fazed by any 266 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: of it right now. And then like their whole visit 267 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: is kind of just like, you know, it seems like 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: it could have been juicy, but it just wasn't. Yeah, 269 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we don't really see too much 270 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: of the reaction from this. I thought it was gonna 271 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: beat Logan's freaking out. Um. Kate has definitely built in 272 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: a unique fan base. Um, which why do I find 273 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: myself included in this? I'm telling you this is the 274 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: weirdest thing ever. She She has like such a condescending 275 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: voice by nature, like or a manner of speaking, and 276 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: everything she says is like, well, it could be offensive. 277 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Not everything, but she says a lot of things that 278 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: could be taking offensively. It can be. Yeah, it's like 279 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: it's the storyline that that has been built in. Now. 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: She said enough things about wanting money, uh, you know, 281 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: sustaining partner that can support her. Well, she's a dog 282 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: walker with an orange car. Yeah, so okay. I don't 283 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: know how to feel about any of this except the 284 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: fact that I was not nervous for Logan. And here's why. 285 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: At this point, there's zero chance Kate and Logan walk 286 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: off this beach together. So in her mind, she's probably thinking, 287 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't really care what these two girls say. Yeah, 288 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I know all of this stuff. Maybe true, they might 289 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: not like him, whatever. I just want to be around 290 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: for as long as I can possibly re around to 291 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: still enjoy paradise. And as a result, who cares. They 292 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: can say what they want. Logan are going to stick 293 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: it out until that last week when they're like, are 294 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: you ready to get engaged? They're both gonna be like Nope, 295 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: and then they'll walk off and they won't miss anything. 296 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: I think that Kate is there, um just to be 297 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: there at this point. I don't see any romance coming 298 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: from their relationship. So true, am I like evil for 299 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: thinking that she's funny? Like again, like I said last week, 300 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: like I know what she's saying is very flawed and 301 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you don't just keeping it real. She's saying, yeah, yeah, 302 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: but they're not nice, they're not might not even be true, 303 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: like they might not even be true. So real in 304 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: the sense that she's saying things that typically are not 305 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: said on national television, and so it's interesting to watch 306 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: to see. It's good TV. Yeah, it's yeah. And I 307 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: wonder if she's like at all embarrassed for saying these 308 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: things or she's like whatever, speaking my feelings, my truth, 309 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but obviously that relationship continues. Then the 310 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: two Bachelor's go home. That's about as big of an 311 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: impact as they had this week. This week, h it 312 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: was a little weird, h to have the guys congratulating 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Rachel on the engagement that we know did not last. 314 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: It is you know weird now to see Gabby, you know, 315 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: so excited and happy and that did not work out either, 316 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: So it is a little bit of a time warp 317 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: to watch it and you know now knowing what's the 318 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: aftermath of all this. But they showed to the beach 319 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: at this point in the episode, Ashley, I was watching 320 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: it on my computer. My wife walks into the room 321 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: and I said, sometimes, Honey, I feel like I get 322 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: dumber by watching Paradise. Now this leads me to the 323 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: Genevieve and Aaron was the best part of the show, 324 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the whole episode. And Wells makes the comment, I think 325 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: this show is making me dumber. And I would say, 326 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: and I said, Honey, do you hear that? He agrees, 327 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: My buddy agrees. He just has to be there. I 328 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: get deposit and turn off and go read a book 329 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: or something. Um, he just has to sit in it. 330 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: But actually, you loved this argument. What it was hilarious. 331 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Let's get Eastern and Hannah on Eastern Hannah producers, let's 332 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: get on and have the argument here, especially since I 333 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: don't think Easton saw it is eastern around there. He is, 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a second of this program. Yeah, I 335 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: know you haven't seen it. But what I love is 336 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: that we get to give give the people somebody. Somebody's 337 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: a in with a neutral perspective. Okay, you're ready. He 338 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: is an itch painful? No? No, no, it's not the question. 339 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: The question is it is having an itch? Pain? Is 340 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: having it? Okay? Yeah, it's having an inch pain a 341 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: low level of pain. I would say it's discomfort, and 342 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: in some cases it's pleasure. Scratching is pleasure. Yeah, scratch okay, Hannah, No, 343 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's pain at all. It's like irritation. 344 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: And I agree with Eastern it is such pleasure when 345 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: you itching it scratch an itch to be proper. Now 346 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: here's um the scientific explanation. Oh my god, stopped. Really, 347 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: don't tell right. Although closely related to paint, itch is 348 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: a distinct sensation that causes scratching. Recent progress is indicated 349 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: the existence of an itch specific neuron circuit tree. Neuron 350 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: circuitry formed in part by the MRP expressed something expressing 351 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: primary sensory neurons. So, in short, no, it's a sensation. 352 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: It's not paint. When Aaron's yelling, it's a fact. It's 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: a fact. It's not a fact. It's a sensation. It's 354 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: not paint. All right, This is this was a really 355 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: funny debate. Thanks guys for your input. Cases closed. I 356 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: loved this. I thought it was just your everyday couple 357 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: of argument. There wasn't, no Wolson. The thing was, it 358 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: wasn't an everyday a couple of argument because like in 359 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: that case, like Jared and I would be like arguing 360 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: with each other, but like smiling while doing it and 361 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: like trying to find definitions that trump to the other 362 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: per sins. But Jennefy was so annoyed and she goes 363 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: and packs her bags and is rolling it out to 364 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: the front of paradise. This is that they are that couple. 365 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: They are just the dramatic couple that, like a stupid 366 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: fights lead to something too big and that's why they 367 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: are forever doomed. There's no way, really, I'm gonna disagree 368 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: with you on something you just said, because I get 369 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: that there's couples where little fights, small things turned into 370 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: big things. But this other than the fact that Jennevieve 371 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: said that Aaron yelled at her, which I wouldn't say 372 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: he yelled at her, right, yeah, I mean maybe with 373 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: something we didn't see. Okay, let's take that out of 374 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: the equation here, because whatever, But um, outside of the reaction, 375 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: and maybe one of the people within this relationship doesn't 376 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: like reaction. This fight never got big, It never became personal. Typically, 377 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: small fights get really detrimental when there's personal attacks throne, 378 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: when people are damaged personally by the things being said. 379 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: This was literally just a fight about is itching pain? 380 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: There is never it never got bigger than it's not 381 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: never dumb. You're always so dumb, You're so stupid, you 382 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know anything that was never said. It was literally 383 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: back and forth about itching and pain, and so I 384 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: would say, no, this did not become a big thing. 385 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why the bags were packed. I don't 386 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: know how they're going to function in a world outside 387 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: of paradise when small, little arguments like this make somebody 388 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: want to leave. Ben, please regal us with a time 389 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: that you and jess had an argument so dumb that 390 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: actually got fired up over because I have an example 391 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: of me and Jared. You know, jess and I don't 392 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: fight just because a very I I don't mean five. 393 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: We don't fight either. A bicker. No, But Jessica is 394 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: more prone to be a peacemaker, like she just doesn't 395 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: like even the bickering. Um It's hard for me to 396 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: even think of one right now because most of my 397 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: life we I know that she's sensitive to any type 398 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: of bickering, and so we just don't because well, then 399 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: doesn't boil. This is like, is there like an irritation 400 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: that kind of continues because it's never brought up something. No, 401 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: we talked like, we very much talked things through after. 402 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: If it is any type of argument, there's typically tears 403 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: and then there's like some breathing room and then it's hey, 404 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: this is where I was coming from, this is where 405 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: you were coming from. How do we get to this point? Okay, okay, 406 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: you want to hear a stupid argument? Yes I do. 407 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Jared and I did this, made this TikTok. It was 408 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: a year ago now that got over four million views, 409 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: So I think it's our highest watch TikTok that we have. 410 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: And it was Jared saying bon or alert in response 411 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: to Tom Brady wearing a backwards hat, and I said, 412 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: while we were at the actual Tampa Bay game, I go, 413 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: you should make a funny TikTok when we get back 414 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: to the hotel and you put a backwards hat on 415 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: or like you watch videos of him and you do 416 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the bon or alert thing because it was like a 417 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: trending sound. And then later when we saw it was 418 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: getting over millions of views, I go, I'm so glad 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: that I had that idea about bon or alert. And 420 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: then he goes, that was not your idea, that was 421 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: my idea. And we argued about whose idea it was, 422 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't fathom how he thought it was 423 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: his idea, Like maybe he had the idea but never 424 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: said it out loud or something like that. But it 425 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: was like an argument where I was like, holy hell, 426 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to get over this. I can't 427 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: believe how mad I am, and I'm just gonna have 428 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: to drop it because we're never going to come to 429 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: me agree. But not it did. He really had to breathe. 430 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: So that that was our version life with your friends. Yeah, 431 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Boner Alert TikTok is our equivalent of itch 432 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: slash pain. This is the wildest conversation. It's hilarious. I 433 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: love the two of them trying to figure this out, 434 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: and again they reconcile. They figured out no harm, no foul, 435 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: everybody back to even. But at this point, Jenevieve has 436 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: got to be sick of packing her bags like that 437 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: is not an easy thing to do. It feels like 438 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: they're just on waiting and on call. Again, I'll say it. 439 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: I think the next time she packs her bag, she's gone. 440 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: I said it this time, I was wrong. I just 441 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: don't see this couple to the end. So let's kind 442 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: of speed date through the couples that are existing right now. Actually, 443 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: just give a quick little update because that's kind of 444 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: the next segment of this episode. As we enter into 445 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: the dance party, Uh, Michael and Danielle seemed to be 446 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: doing really well, seemed to be getting to a place 447 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: that feels like there's a long lasting relationship. She wants 448 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: to say love, but she's also worried about saying but 449 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: she's feeling it. And I wonder if we're going to 450 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: get hear him say love by the end of this season, 451 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: because we know he's only said it to Laura before 452 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: in his past. Um the other big Yeah, Brittie and Tyler, 453 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: Britnie Tyler going strong. Don't see a lot about him. 454 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: You don't watch him very often. I don't know what 455 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: it is. I love Brittany so much like I really 456 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: hold Britney dear. I really liked her, and she's so 457 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: much over her age. There's something so special about her 458 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: that I just feel really protective when watching her. And 459 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's it. Yeah, Justin and Flo, sure, 460 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's a halfway across the world 461 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: lasting relationship. Joey and Chine. I also feel like that 462 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: is not going to really go very far in the 463 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: real world. I I'll be shocked, but I could see 464 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: those I could see one of those two making it 465 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: and us all being surprised. It would be Yeah, I 466 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: could see it being one of those couples that were like, WHOA, 467 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: that's success story and from Paradise that we did not 468 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: see coming. There's a lot of those what do you 469 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: think of Brandon screen? I mean, just get married tomorrow. 470 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: It'll be fine. Yeah, it's gonna be great. And they 471 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: could get married right there on the beach and I 472 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be concerned about them not even experiencing real 473 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: life together. Very very much and love. And at this 474 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: point we have n C and Andrew. Obviously, anybody that's 475 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast has watched the episode, but at 476 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: this point we're feeling like there's excitement or just something 477 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: new to me. Can we talk about just how funny 478 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: this whole thing is with n and Andrew at the 479 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: end of the like this is where we are, right, 480 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: we have to talk about the most unbelievable moment I've 481 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: in quite some time on TV. I have some strong 482 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: opinions on that. The final cop couple is Kate and Logan. 483 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: Cat and Logan also doomed, doomed, doomed? So can we 484 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: go on to n C? Now we we do have 485 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: to say, um, that is short and as sweet and 486 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: his Um. I mean, I love these two people, but 487 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: I have no clue why Beck and Thomas arrived in Paradise. 488 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Smallest cameo of all time. I don't get it. I 489 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the show was thinking it was gonna happen. 490 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: But Beck and Thomas do arrive in Paradise. They are 491 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: a great success story from Paradise. Um, they should be highlighted. 492 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: I think they're both tremendous and I care about them both. 493 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, they came, they left. I think they're at 494 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: the dance party, yeah, and think so. But they held 495 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: no mentor role. I thought they were going to go 496 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: and do a date with somebody I don't know, but 497 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: no nothing. So anyway, we get to the party and 498 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: the party is a nineties theme, which is really cool. 499 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: But there's only one thing that we has have so 500 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: far seen that happens at the party that is monumental, 501 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: and we're not gonna talk about it yet. We're gonna 502 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: talk about the dance off. Why are you doing this 503 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: to me? The dance off was so fantastic, um, the guys, 504 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: who was the girls, the costumes were great, the party 505 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: was was fantastic. I'm sure this is a very fun 506 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: event um for everybody. And now, actually I will allow 507 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: us to talk about and see Andrew and just sitting you, okay, 508 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: so just send you up, pulls Andrew aside, and she 509 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: doesn't really have much of an argument. She's telling Andrew, 510 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it's because she feels bad about the 511 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: situation that she's in with him, which is basically like 512 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: no longer a situation hip. It's just they broke it up. 513 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: She's like, I just feel like you're not here for 514 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: basically like the wrong just basically I think you're here 515 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: for the wrong races at this point, Like you're just 516 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: not really connecting with people like you have dated. Now 517 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you're on your fourth person and it's just not like 518 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: clicking for you, and we really just are wondering why 519 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: you're like breezing by, like maybe you shouldn't be here anymore. 520 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Am I summarizing that properly? Yeah? I mean I think she. 521 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: I got the feeling watching it that, like she definitely 522 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: was hurting. And I'm gonna say this word and I 523 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: don't think I think it's gonna be too strong, but 524 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: she was definitely manipulating the situation, but like on an 525 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: evil way. No, no, exactly, That's why I said it's 526 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: too strong. Yeah, yeah, but I guess she was hurting, 527 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: so she was communicating this pain to him without telling 528 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: him that she's just hurting, and instead it came off 529 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: as her trying to convince him that he's messing up 530 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: and that she's just worried about him. She was like, 531 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: let me get this straight, this is you, not me, right. Yeah. 532 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to when somebody says you look tired. 533 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: It's like, what you really want to tell me is 534 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: I looked terrible, but you're trying to manipulate to sound 535 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: a little better so that it's not so offensive, but 536 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: it's just as offensive. So I am assuming Andrew, even 537 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: though he did handle himself well. I do have some 538 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: critiques as usual about how he handled it, but he 539 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: did handle himself well. He was patient, he was very 540 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: he was very kind given. But I'm sure inside his 541 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: blood is boiling because he knows where this is coming from, 542 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: and he knows how confused he already is. And I'm 543 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: sure he's just sitting there being like, I just want 544 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: this to stop because this feels unhealthy. Now here's my 545 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: critique of Andrew. I think he's a dude, great smile, 546 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. Um, he says dude to women. Wait, 547 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I know, but you also know he 548 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really like them if he's calling them dude. Do 549 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: you think I don't know? I mean there's moments where 550 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the dinner table Jess and I'm like, dude, 551 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: watch this, and I'm like, I'm sorry, that was weird. 552 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: It's just like, like, I want you to see this 553 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: video and it just came out that it's excited. He 554 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: just repeatedly says it is greeting to women. Is come on, dude, 555 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I like, and I just don't think that fits. It 556 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: feels weird. That's my critique of Okay, that's it, that's 557 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: what I want. I just also wanted to say that, 558 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: like Jena is trying, I don't think it's fair to say, like, 559 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: just because you haven't found love in Paradise, you have 560 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: to go like who says that you have to like 561 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: you can't like be in like with multiple people. She 562 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: was saying, it's like not right, it's not right for 563 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: you to be here anymore because like you've only found 564 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: like here and you've kind of like gotten through every 565 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: road ceremony because people like you, but like you're not 566 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: in love, you know what I mean. I just but again, 567 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: it's the it's it's it's not me, it's you, right situation, 568 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: and like and we get it. But the most dramatic 569 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happens, or at least an oil, is 570 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the fact that NC comes up to him in the 571 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: middle of this conversation, insisting that this isn't out of 572 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: like insecurity. But she's like this is so wrong, like 573 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull you aside. Can I pull you aside? 574 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: And she's and he's like no, no, no, no no, like 575 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: this is important, Like I really need to communicate this 576 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: with her respectable love that he said that, but then 577 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: she is like, if you don't come with me, I'm 578 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: going to be like really over this, and then just 579 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: said He's like, well, you're giving him an ultimatum. That's 580 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: really attractive. And I think NC just must have been 581 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: really drunk to act the way that she does in 582 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: that scene and then the forthcoming Yeah, I mean something 583 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: has to be going on, because, um, it's paradise. You're 584 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna see people talk to other people. And their conversation 585 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: was not romantic. Their conversation was a yard apart. They 586 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: weren't touching. There was no smiles, no flirting, coldness. Yeah. 587 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: In fact, if I was n C, I'd be like, 588 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: you let that exist because this is for me like that, 589 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting on the sidelines waiting for you to 590 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: come back. It was weird. It was it was dramatic. 591 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm proud. I am not proud because that makes it 592 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: sound like I would have done it. I would have 593 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: never done this. I'm not smart enough. But the way 594 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: Andrew handled it with n C afterwards, when he said, 595 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: here's really you know, in summary, I'm not gonna get 596 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: it perfect but he said something along the lines of 597 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a partner that allows me to care 598 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: for people where they're at. Uh, justin he was hurting, 599 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: she needed to talk to me, and I'm looking for 600 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: partners to support me because that's just who I am. 601 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: That is a really like wise, thoughtful, um vulnerable thing 602 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: to say, and I get it. And I think for him, 603 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: no matter what in Sea's like sobriety was or what 604 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes, I'm assuming that was his 605 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: deal breaker, Like when he heard that and saw that 606 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: at that moment, he said, this is not my partner, 607 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: This is not this is not who I want to be, 608 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: This is not the partner I need to support me 609 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: because my whole life, and you can just tell with 610 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: Andrew his whole life is probably sitting uh and the 611 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: difficult situations with people helping them walk through it, but 612 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: also UH standing up for the things he believes them 613 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: and he needs a partner to get beside him in 614 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: that and alongside of him and lead him in that. 615 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: So I thought that was a great statement that moment. Yeah, 616 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: and it clarified, you know why he was so turned off, 617 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: And I think he obviously wasn't really like that invested 618 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: in his relationship with her. But that said, he did 619 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: say like this night and how everything unfolded makes me 620 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: feel like I have to leave now, like we have 621 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: basically no future. And he said that in as nice 622 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: of way as possible. And then the amount of times 623 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: I've done I've done cringeing things on the show before, 624 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: and and this was up there, this this pegging, this 625 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: please Andrew, please, please please, saying please twenty times. Yeah, 626 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: hard to watch. It was cringeing. Um. And I'm gonna 627 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: give her the benefit of the doubt and say that 628 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: she probably was just like a little bit. She probably, 629 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, she was feeling desperate. She was not that 630 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: ye how it was going to come across on TV, 631 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, it was rough. It was it was begging. 632 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: It was true begging, like I don't know if I've 633 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: ever seen before on Bachelor franchise. And why where do 634 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: you think that was? Do you think she really cared 635 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: about him that much and really saw a future with 636 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: Andrew and really wanted him there or was it an 637 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: embarrassing thing for her where she realized that she overstepped 638 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: and didn't realize the repercussion from overstepping. Where do you 639 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: think that was coming from. I think that she has 640 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: a big crush on Andrew. And I also think that 641 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: she did the show again and she just had a 642 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: whole different thought of it unfolding. And I think she 643 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: just thought to be more successful in the first time around. 644 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: She did make a mention of this in the exit vehicle, 645 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I think that basically it was just 646 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: like her feeling like she failed. She made a sord 647 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: mistake and then failed. That's too bad. I don't like 648 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: that for it is sad. Two last things. One is 649 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: another embarrassing moment for n C where she has a 650 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: snot bubble. That's not that it was on her lip. Wait, 651 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: why didn't I see that? I didn't make that show it? 652 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh why did they show it? It's too bad? Um? 653 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: And then why do we talk about here on the podcast? 654 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: And then but we've all been there. Uh, that's human, 655 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: that happens. Uh. And we'll closed this episode today talking 656 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: about what Andrew's ultimate excuse for leaving was is that 657 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: he's still very much his hearts with Teddy. That relationship ended. 658 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't even feel like the same season 659 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: he's been there since then, he's found some relationships since then, 660 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: do you see a future with Teddy and Andrew? Do 661 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: you think she's going to be interested in trying it 662 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: again outside of Paradise? Uh? And then are you surprised 663 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: that that that his heart was still so much there? 664 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: It's so sad that his heart was so much there. 665 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: I know that based on like what Teddy said on 666 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: Instagram a couple of months, like maybe a couple of 667 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago. She said something about like alluding to the 668 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: show just not being like her ideal place to be right. 669 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: I have a theory that maybe they are trying to 670 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: rekindle in real life, that she really just didn't want 671 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: to date him there. Um also and very anxious for 672 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: the reunion show to see where they are today. Yeah, 673 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I don't know that. That's basically my 674 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: thoughts on it. What about you? I think they could 675 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: make it work. I think there's been enough flirting going 676 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: on in social media well over last year before the show, 677 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: where he was saying how interested he was in her, 678 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: that I could see them going in a few dates. 679 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna work or not. You 680 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: didn't get to see enough their relationship to see their chemistry, 681 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: but he obviously went in the paradise. I would believe 682 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: solely focused that this was his shot to meet Teddy. 683 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: Uh and to be with Teddy, and so I hope 684 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: they at least give it a date. I think they. 685 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: I think they will have something in real life. Do 686 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: we know how close they are in proximity? I don't. 687 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: I know, I know he's in Chicago, but I don't 688 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: know where. But it was a dramatic, also emotional uh 689 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: and um, I will say embarrassing ending to the show. 690 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't think Z's probably watching this EPI so being 691 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: like that was my greatest moment, and I'm really happy 692 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: it happened. And I don't feel weird watching it. I'm 693 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: sure it's hard. Um what's cringer? Her interruption of Jena 694 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: or the police please please? I would say the interruption 695 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: of Jena, I mean the police please please. I think 696 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: came out of desperation of knowing that like the interruption 697 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: caused repercussion that she don't wanted. I thought the way 698 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: she handled that was unfair to both, and I don't 699 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: probably believe that's who she wants to be. I'm sure 700 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: she watches it back and says, Gosh, when somebody's having 701 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: a really difficult conversation, I don't need to step in 702 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: the middle of it. And that's not who I am, 703 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: and it's not who I want to be in the future. 704 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: And so that's what I would say. It wasn't It 705 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like super fun for me to watch. It was 706 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of hard, and it was also a little frustrating 707 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: because I I think sitting there going all you have 708 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: to do and see is going and dance and let 709 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: Andrew come inside, and this is all fine. Well, they 710 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: were never gonna account, but n could have been a 711 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: little less, had a little less on TV. You know, 712 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm all right, we're moving into They keep teasing it. Uh, 713 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: engagements are coming, They're coming, They're they're happening. They say 714 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: it every week the last two weeks. Let's see when 715 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,959 Speaker 1: they happen. 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