1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at All copy Products 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: dot com. So the fifteen of the ten Murry's Gonna 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Score fuck Down. Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Slim to the Ground by Puda Baker like a torpedo. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield, Tens goes up and 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: fixed the game. When it catch Larry Lodgin does it again. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Here Tween go. This is it. Caught by Kirk at 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the twenty at the ten touchdown Baby Field. Here's Craig Grilou, 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki and Bertrand Berry. So let's define what the 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: offseason is for first and foremost, it's about getting better, 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: improving as a player, improving as a team. And gentlemen, 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: there is is no question the Cardinals have gotten beater, 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: have gotten better at least on paper. And yes, another 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: games are not played on paper, but for right now, 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: paper is all we have to judge the Cardinals by. 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: And well, let's see what the Cardinals have done because 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: they have been very active since our most recent show. 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler new cornerback, cornerback number one, if you will. 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Mason Cole has been traded to the Vikings for a 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick. Tight endy Darrell Daniels and safety 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Charles Washington have been retained. And oh yes, Chris Banjo 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: is back and a new safety, Sean Williams. Gentlemen, it 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: has been a busy week, b train. How you doing. 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I have feeling good and excited 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: about these moves that the Cardinals have made. It shows 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: that they're willing to put their having the rain for 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the NFC West and game. They have certainly made a 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: lot of additions. We'll get into the Malcolm Butler move 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: and what they have done the safety position a little 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: bit later on, but as we focus on offensive line 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: and tied end and JA certainly two areas, and I 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: guess offensive line more so that needed to be addressed, 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: and there is an address that has been made. You've 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: got Rodney Hudson, Max Garcia is back, Calvin Beecham is back, 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and with all of these people coming back. In the 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: edition of Hudson, there just was not any more room 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: for a Mason Cole and well, at least you got 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: something out of him, as the Cardinals deal him for 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty one sixth round draft pick. Yeah, you know, 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: and Shipley went down the Mason's first year, he had 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: a chance to play over a thousand snaps, and I 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: do think they missed Shipley last year. But you know 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: as a case where when he got a chance to 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: talk to Sean Coogler, he made it very clear that 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: he won a competition on the offensive line, in particularly 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: the center position. So the Cardinals were able to go 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: out and get one of the better centers that became 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: available in Rodney Hudson. And I'm curious to see what's 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: going to happen at right guard. I think Calvin b 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: him definitely was an upgrade last year at right tackle. 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I think the left side set so it's going to 55 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: be interesting, and I think they really want to create 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: competition for some backup roles. Again, they'll likely address eight 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: on game day. And I forgot about Brian Winters as well, 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: perhaps the new starter at right guard. So you have 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: two potential news starters on that offensive line be training. Yes, 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about in the trenches, So you have to 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: give us that when we're talking about the offense, but 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: certainly an area that this team wanted to get better, 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: especially in the interior. So you kept that pressure up 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the middle off of one Kyler Murray. I think you 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: have to be able to upgrade that because that's the 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: quickest way to win or lose a football game. And 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: when you talk about protecting your franchise quarterback, those five 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: guys have to all be in lockstep with one another 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that they do that. And the more 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: talented guys that you have at your disposal to do 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that than the better. The chances are that Kyler is 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: going to be kept cleaning and he can go about 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the business of getting the ball to his recreasy weapons 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: and making sure that this offense keeps moving as schedules. 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: So I thought it was a necessary move and I 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: thought it was it was really good by Steve Kiming 77 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: company to find the right pieces that are gonna be 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: able to come in and really help this offense take 79 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: it to that next level. Yeah, I agree with you, 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: And hopefully this allows Kyler Murray to step up in 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: the pocket, and I know he has a tendency to 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: drift and it could be he's got to see over 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: the line. But you know you're going against the NFC 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: West and we know how good the defensive tackles are there. 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: And then you mentioned Brian Winters six four three twenty UM. 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: You know he's got a ton of starts in the NFL. 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I think Justin Murray's a guy that's got some flexibility, 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: could play both guard and tackle. So I do think 89 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be open competition there. And you know what 90 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Steve Kim said and we always say, is Sean Klucker 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: is going to play the best five guys. So they 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: want to be a better team. I thought they've made 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: strides over the last couple of years, but I thought 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: they tail then tail down a little bit towards the 95 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: end of the season last year. And Josh Jones as well, 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: who they invested in a third round pick a year ago, 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: perhaps he is in the mix at potentially guard or tackle. 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: The other moves we talked about Darrell Daniels the tight 99 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: end position. Max Williams was already on the roster and 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: then that was basically it's until the Daniels moves was made. 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: And here we're talking about, yes, potentially a pass catcher 102 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: b trained, but with Williams and Daniels two tight ends 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: that I think are more known and better suited as 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: an extra blocker or two. Whether that's a quote unquote 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: sixth down linemen as far as an offensive lineman is 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: concerned or max protection, but guys that yes, they can 107 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: catch the football, but first and foremost it's protection and 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: helping out those running backs. And you want to establish 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: an identity as well when you start talking about what 110 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: are you as an offense. Are you a physical offense? 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Are you a f mess offense? Are you a timing 112 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: and rhythm type of offense? And I think with the 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: addition of these tight ends on the edges, they want 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: to be more of a physical presence on the outside 115 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: and be able to win those edges and to be 116 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: able to get the running backs those key rushing lanes 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: where they can actually open up and be able to 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: do major damage down the field. And the fact that 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: they can catch the ball on top of that, I 120 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: think that only helps. But you're seeing a concerted effort 121 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: to really make sure that this offense has an identity 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: of being physical. And the way to do that is 123 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: had physical players at most positions, particularly along the line 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: where you are putting your hand on the ground and 125 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: you're having to fire off into somebody else. Tight end, tackles, guards, center, 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: all those positions, you want physical style players because once 127 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: you set that tone, everything else false. From there, we'll 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: be trained. We heard from general manager Steve Kim there 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: were two areas that he wanted to address this offseason, 130 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: and that was one physicality and two leadership in that 131 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: locker room. To your point about the physicality, there are 132 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: certainly something to be said about. Yes, it begins with 133 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and then the upgrades, the additions on the 134 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: offensive line. There is no question that we expect to 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: see and I think it's the total set from up above. 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Was the time that this team better be physical in 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. You gotta do it, and that's the 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: way that you're going to be able to compete in 139 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: this division. This is the toughest division in the NFL 140 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: has presently constituted, and I would defy anybody to find 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: me a tougher division. But in order to win a 142 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: tough division, you have to be able to establish the 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: style of play, and that physical style of play is 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: the bread and butter of the game that we all 145 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: knew and love, and the more physical team on a 146 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: given Sunday is going to be the one that usually 147 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: walks out of that stadium with to win. And in 148 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: order to keep up with the rest of this this 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: stacked division, with all these great defenses and defensive players, 150 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: the defensive front lines, it's imperative that you match fire 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: for fire, and if they are physical, then you're going 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: to have to be physical. And I think it was 153 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: really the only way that they could go in order 154 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: to ensure that they had a face who comes out 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: of this division as the champion. You know, we're all 156 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: going to look at the Super Bowl and where was 157 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: that game one in the trenches? But let's go back 158 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: to Week sixteen and seventeen. Cardinals did not win at 159 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. They did not win against in 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. We're basically we weren't playing for 161 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a whole opposites pride. And then Week seventeen against the Rams. 162 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: So you bring in Hudson physicality, you retain Marcus Golden physicality, 163 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: you bring in JJ Watt physicality. We just got a 164 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: chance to hear from Malcolm Butler physicality on the outside. 165 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: So that was the goal going in. And they are 166 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: also bringing leadership guys that have done it at a 167 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: high level for a period of time and now we'll 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: see how much they have left in the future. Yeah, 169 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: a lot of former captains, including Sean Williams, the Cincinnati 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: Bengals former safety is now an Arizona Cardinal. But with 171 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the tight ending, I made no secret MJ about Yeah, 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Dan Arnold retained, but he was 173 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: more of a pass catching tight end. Now you've got 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: two more or known blockers. As far as tight ends, 175 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: perhaps it's not the tight end position that will be 176 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: a pass catcher. You've got wide receivers, you've got running backs. 177 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you're looking for a tight end and the offense 178 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: to just kind of maybe be a little bit more, 179 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: not mean not so much run heavy, but using those 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: tight ends as blockers as opposed to have them go 181 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: out for passings. You know, looking at Dan Arnold, I 182 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: know that Kyler Murray, you know, trusted him early on 183 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, he made strides. What I 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: think is they're hoping to get more production out of 185 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Dan Arnold last year, and so he decided to sign 186 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: with the Panthers, relationship with their offensive coordiner and Joe Brady. 187 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Darrell Daniels to me, I go back to that great 188 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: catch he caught when Kyler Murray kind of thread the needle. 189 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: I think he's become a better blocker. He does play 190 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: on special teams. We know Max Williams can catch the ball. 191 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: There's been a few times he's had, you know, nice catches. 192 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: But if you're Sean Coogler, you want to go eleven 193 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: and twelve personnel, you want to go big, and so 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: both of these guys are capable of blocking. I would 195 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: think if you want to get a pass catching tight end, 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: just based on Kingsbury's offense, that could come in the draft, 197 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: that can come up maybe later in free agency, you 198 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: certainly want somebody. But I think it also signals that, yeah, 199 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: as far as that physicality be trained, you might see 200 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: more running as far as a traditional offense. At least 201 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of the vibe I get from everything that 202 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: I've read and seen so far with this team offensively, 203 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: and I love the fact that you want to be 204 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: a physical team because the more you can run the 205 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: football and be physical, the less pressure you put on 206 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: your defense. It doesn't make your defense doesn't have to 207 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: go out there and be lights out every single time. 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: You take a little bit of pressure off of them 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: and then they can just pick and choose their spots 210 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: when they can be aggressive. And I know Advanage Joseph 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: will appreciate a much more physical ball controls to all 212 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: the offense where you can just ram the ball down 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: the opposing defensives throw and you can make you can 214 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: win the title possession as well as getting lots of 215 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: yardage and put points on the board. So it's an 216 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: all around win for total team development. And I think 217 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: for this team and this organization, they want to change 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: the identity so to speak, and not to say that 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: it's bad before, but you do have to make sure 220 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: that you are staying on par with what is required 221 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: to win this division. And even though we may have 222 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: gotten a little older with some of these additions, I 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: still think the experience part is going to benefit us 224 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the best. And now you can focus your attention to 225 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: other places and really building the roster and making sure 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: that you have enough playmakers to make sure that this 227 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: team gets to where it wants to go. And that's 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the one thing Betrain about these additions that we're seen 229 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: in free agency. You know, twenty nine, thirty thirty one, 230 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: thirty two years old. And to your point, they've got 231 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: a resume, They've got the experience that sometimes you need 232 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: and is probably more advantageous for you as an entire 233 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: football team because of where you want to go. Talent 234 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: is great, and yes, you need that talent. Sometimes the 235 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: tricks of the trade which you learn from those early 236 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: years benefit you later, and the Cardinals are hoping to 237 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: get that benefit here in twenty twenty one with the 238 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: moves that they have made thus far. One of those 239 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: moves we've touched on Malcolm Butler, the new number one cornerback. 240 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: He addressed the media earlier today. We'll get into his 241 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: thoughts and conversation as we continue. The Cardinals Red Sea 242 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: reports every Tuesday at eleven am year round. Right here 243 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, Football is hit the 244 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Patriot one the Quarterbaan will cities. In the shotgun formation, 245 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Lynch will flink into his left, two one to the 246 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: near side, one to the fog. In the shut gun. 247 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: There's the snappets filled high printrol its intercit Let's intercepted 248 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: by flcome Butler. Malcolm Butler is intercepted Russell Wilson that 249 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the goal line twenty second shift. Butler does an unbelievable 250 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: job getting inside, and I'm surprised that Russell Wilson through 251 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: it here, read the play perfectly, one behind the pick 252 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: and ran right to where the slam was going to 253 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: be throne. One of the best plays, either offensively or 254 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: defensively in Super Bowl history. The interception by Malcolm Butler's 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: sealing the Patriots win in Super Bowl forty nine. Kevin 256 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Harland boomers Sisson on Westwood one with the final call 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: there as we walk me back to the Cardinals Red 258 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: seer Port, Craig Riel, Mike Drecky, and Bertram Barry, and 259 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: as luck would have it, Malcolm Butler now an Arizona Cardinal. 260 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: He addressed the media earlier today and admitted that he 261 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: didn't really think about that play when joining the Cardinals, 262 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: but then added quote, it's kind of crazy easy that 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: I'll be playing home games where I became well known 264 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: and made one of the best plays in Super Bowl history, 265 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: and then be trained. He added this, he has not 266 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: played a game ever, let alone since that Super Bowl 267 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: in Seattle, and is expecting, as he said, some tension 268 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: when he steps foot in Seattle for the first time. Oh, 269 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: you better believe he's gonna receive some tension. But I 270 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: think the people that that should they should be mad at, 271 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, the coach and the offensive coordinator for that play, 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: because anybody that that was around knew that Marshawn Lynch 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: should have got that ball. So yeah, I don't know 274 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: how much they're going to really throw his direction because 275 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and Bevill should have definitely given Marshawn Lynch 276 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: the ball and let him go ahead and drive it in. 277 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: He had that defense on the ropes and but hey, 278 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: be that as of May, the situation was Matthon made 279 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: the play and he'll go down forever as one of 280 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the great moments in Super Bowl history. You know, when 281 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: you watch NFL films, it was fascinating how Belichick was 282 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: just looking at the other sidelines, just looking and then 283 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: finally I think it was Brian Floor he said, Malcolm, 284 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: get in there. I mean, it's just fascinating he's looking 285 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: at the entit like he kind of thought and they 286 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: had practice that play. I'm sure wouldn't get a chance 287 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: to talk to him during the season or something. Maybe 288 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: he's moved on. But Yeah, to me, this is a 289 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: really good pickup. I mean, just the fact that he 290 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: loves football. He's coming off a really good year, one 291 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: of his best years according to him, and he's probably 292 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: thirty one this season. So I don't know if you 293 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: could have got a better corner in free agency than 294 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler at this point in time. Very productive, played 295 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: all sixteen games last season, the only player with at 296 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: least one hundred tackles and four or more interceptions. He 297 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: played ninety seven percent of the snaps Beatran. I'm still 298 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: surprised that one he was available too. He lasted on 299 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: the market for as long as he did, Although Butler 300 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: did acknowledge that he understood the business as far as 301 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: why he was released. He was owed a ton of 302 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: money and it was a salary cap casualty. Yet at 303 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: the same time, this is a very strong move when 304 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: at a position that was certainly needed and needed to 305 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: be addressed this offseason. Yeah, and I think he's still 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to address needs at the cornerback position because 307 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of unproven commodities at that position. Yes, 308 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: you bring in Malcolm Butler, a guy that's experienced, a 309 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, and that's good. But he is thirty one. 310 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: And with all of the free agents that brought in, 311 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: we talked about experiences. One way you can look at it. 312 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Older is another way you can look at it. And 313 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to get younger at the 314 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: cornerback position. You're gonna have to get some young guys 315 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: through the draft. I think you need to go very 316 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: high in the draft. That's just my opinion to get 317 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: one of those playmakers to go alongside of Malcolm Butler. 318 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Where you set for years, who was going to be 319 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: that guy opps to Patrick Peterson when now you say 320 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: opposite to Malcolm Butler. So I still think that this 321 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: is a great area of need, and I thought that 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: went a long way in getting the process started of 323 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: bringing in players can really help these teams get to 324 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: where least to go. I'd like to see mj another corner, 325 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: a veteran corner added, and then, as Batran said, also 326 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: draft a corner because you've got Robert Alford who hasn't 327 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: played for the past two seasons, and Byron Murphy who 328 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: they want to keep in the slot. So yes, the 329 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: Batran's point, you do still have work to be done 330 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: as far as addressing the cornerback position, and I think 331 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: they will. I think not only did they sign Malcolm Butler, 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: I do think to let another veteran cornerback, and then 333 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: I do think they'll take advantage of how deep the 334 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: cornerback draft is, whether it comes in the first or 335 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: second round. Because Malcolm Butler is on a one year deal. 336 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if he plays well enough, could they extend him. 337 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: Clearly he's betting on himself. Robert Alford's got to stay healthy. 338 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Murphy's under contract for the next few years, so you 339 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of got to flood that position. And again you 340 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: don't want to have too much youth, but you also 341 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: have to have some experience back there. And I think 342 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: if Alfred could stay healthy, I think Murphy's definitely getting better. 343 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: I like the way he hits, and then you bring 344 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: in a guy like Malcolm Butler. So but I do think, 345 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: you know, you have to get some more depth because 346 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: we know injuries occur. The first move was important, and 347 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: that was finding a replacement for Patrick Peterson. Now, before 348 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: this move was made official, general manager Steve come addressed 349 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: the media about what the team had done up until 350 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: that point in free agency. Cornerback obviously a move that 351 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: had yet to be made and was certainly a question mark. 352 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: And here is what Kim had to say about that situation. Again, 353 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: this is before we knew. I'm sure Kim knew, but 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: we did not know Malcolm Butler was going to be 355 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: a cardinal. You know, every team has holes, and one 356 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: thing you don't want to do is you don't want 357 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: to panic and do things that are put you in 358 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: a tough situation from a cap standpoint. So we'll continue 359 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: to monitor the market. There's different avenues that we can take, 360 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: whether it's through free agency, trade options, or even the 361 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. You know, we always say, well why is 362 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: this guy available? Well, he was available because he's a 363 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: cap casualty. You know, he was one of the better 364 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: players on defense last year. And people are gonna say, well, 365 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: he had one hundred tackles. Well, if you look at it, 366 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans were thirtieth in sacks. They had nineteen 367 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: sacks total, So that's the reason why he has one 368 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: hundred tackles. He had four pass interceptions, he had fourteen 369 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: or fifteen passes defense. He's played for Vrabel, He's played 370 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: for Brian Flores, He's played for Belichick. I mean, on paper, 371 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: he could be a quarterback number one, but he was 372 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: beloved in the building. He's competitive, he loves to practice, 373 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: he loves to play. So, like I said, I don't 374 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: know if he could have done a better job and 375 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: effect that it's a one year deal three point five 376 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: up to six million, so definitely doesn't force them to 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: go at sixteen with a cornerback. Now. Well, and by comparison, 378 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals were able to do as far as 379 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: a pass rush versus the Titans pass for us last 380 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: year forty eight sacks by the Cardinals and now you 381 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: get J. J. Watt healthy Chandler Jones. And that was 382 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: something else that Butler brought up, as far as when 383 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: you have a pass rush b train sometimes that certainly, 384 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: well not sometimes all the time. It's helpful. It's a 385 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: benefit to those guys and the secondary because they're not 386 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: asked to cover as much. At least that is the hope. 387 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: When you got those dogs up front, it makes everybody's 388 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: job easier. It makes the linebacker's job easier, it makes 389 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: the secondary jobs easier, and then for the other defensive lineman, 390 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: if you've got that one guy at the bell cow 391 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: setting the tone, then it makes everybody else on that 392 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: defensive front jobs easier. So oh, I really believe that 393 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you have to build from the inside out and once 394 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: you have those guys in place, now you can actually 395 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: go in and fill out the rest of the rosher. 396 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: But I do believe that if you have those good 397 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: pass rushers up front, the guys that can really create 398 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: pressure and create a lot of habits, it really makes 399 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: the secondary that much better. But you still have to 400 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to go out and make plays. And 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: I think right now the Cardinals made a step in 402 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: that election with matthe and Butler, but they're still yet 403 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: work to be done. I would agree with that. And 404 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: you know one thing, he's physical to line of scrimmage. 405 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: He comes down in the run support and when you 406 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: look at it from his standpoint, I mean he went 407 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: against Allen Robinson last year, held his own. Now, if 408 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you put a speedy wide receiver against him, you better 409 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: have safety coverage. He did a good job on some 410 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: of these bigger physical receivers, so he's probably going to 411 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: guard the number one wide receiver and depending on this 412 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: is what they want to do. They want to play 413 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: man and man press and hopefully Murphy and Alfred can hang. 414 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: But he's not going to cover speed guys. He's going 415 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: to cover the big physical receivers where he can jam 416 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: them at the line of scrimmage to help the pass rush. 417 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: And with Butler now and you have Robert Alford and 418 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: as we talked, they still need to add more. But 419 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: the important aspect of Byron Murphy and keeping him in 420 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: the slot something came addressed and said, yeah, we think 421 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: he is one of the better slot corners in the game. 422 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: So the preference is to keep Murphy right where he's at, 423 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: which is to what we talked about. Yes, you need 424 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: to add another veteran, and you need a draft to 425 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: get younger at that position as well, because Butler's on 426 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: a one year contract. Burt Gang, make sure you' subscribe 427 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Ditcher, 428 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: and SoundCloud. 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Sean Williams nuts and free. 437 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: The ball is loose, book keep trying to pounce on it. 438 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's cut it a safety, flints from Seawan Williams, and 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Blacko got small. Shawn Williams was shot out of a cannon. 440 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger rows over the middle, intercepted not Sean Williams, Night 441 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: running to the fifty down the far sideline to the 442 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: forty one party to twenty but ten five touchdown. Sean 443 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Williams intercepting Ben Roethlisberger and sprinting fifty nine yards to 444 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: put the Bengals on the scoreboard. First an eight year 445 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: veteran eight years with the Cincinnati Bengals and now an 446 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, Shawn Williams agreeing to terms on a one 447 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: year deal. A safety and last year one of the 448 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: better special teams players in the game. As the Cardinals 449 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: continue to add depth and certainly strengthened that defense. As 450 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report, Craig 451 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: Riel Lu, Mike Drecky, and Bertram Berry, as we talk 452 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: about the addition of Williams and the resigning of Chris 453 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Banjoe some depth specifically at the safety position and Jane 454 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: we know, yes, Buddha Baker, he is set. He is 455 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: the guy, and it wasn't really a position that this 456 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: team needed to address. Although I get the concerns with 457 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: a Jalen and a Deonte Thompson, it's been kind of 458 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: hit or missed as far as whether those guys can 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: stay on the field, and the production value of a 460 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: Deanta Thompson just hasn't reached the what we have seen 461 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: from Jalen Thompson. But with the latter, it's being able 462 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: to count on him on Sundays. So here is Sean Williams, 463 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: who wasn't asked to do a lot defensively last year, 464 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: but Mike get the chance here in twenty twenty one, 465 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: and the fact is you're not relying on young players. 466 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: You have enough of those guys right now in Jalen 467 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: and Deonta Thompson. I believe Buddha Baker will become the 468 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: face of the defense him and Chandler Jones. Buddha is 469 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: going to be a captain again like he was when 470 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Jones went down. You know, special teams is something they 471 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: put an emphasis on. They lose one of their or 472 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: moved down from one of their better special teams player 473 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: and trench Scherfield Chris Banjo, I thought he got a 474 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: chance to play last year a little safety. Showed me 475 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: some upside there. So you got to have depth there. 476 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly you want one of the Thompson twins. 477 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: I think Jalen has more upside. Deante showed me a 478 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: little bit more coming and run support become a little 479 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: bit more physical. But it's nice to have guys that 480 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: can play. They're going to be active on game day 481 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: and they can play on teams and give you some 482 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: depth at that position. And Charles Washington back as draw 483 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: much like Banjo, could play some safety, but more known 484 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: for his prowess on special teams. So that is an 485 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: area that is certainly important for the Arizona Cardinals. Getting 486 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: back to Sean Williams, they'll be trained and we talk 487 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: about connections relationships. Yes, there is a connection and a 488 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: relationship with defensive coordinator Advance Joseph. In twenty fourteen and 489 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Vance was the Bengals defensive backs to coach. 490 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: So Sean Williams certainly has knows what he is getting 491 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: himself involved with as far as what is being asked 492 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: to him in this particular defense. Yeah, just like we 493 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: saw with Draker Pactor. Any time that you have familiarity 494 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: with a player and a coach and they had a 495 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: good experience together, there's usually going to be a great 496 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: chance that you can see them reunite in different places. 497 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: And the one thing coach Coach Joseph likes to do, 498 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: he likes to bring in players that he's familiar with, 499 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You 500 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that those guys can go 501 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: out there and they can actually make the play. It's 502 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: one thing to have a relationship and feel good about somebody, 503 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: but it's another thing for them to go out and 504 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: make you look good by performing at a really high level. 505 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: And I think Sean Williams has done a good job 506 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: of doing that and hopefully being brought here with the 507 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, he can maintain a high level of play 508 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: and really pay that relationship off for coach Joseph and 509 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: his team as a whole, because you really need somebody 510 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: to go alongside Booda. The Buddha has done his part 511 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: and making himself one of the stalwarts on the defensive side, 512 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: but you've got to have somebody to back his play 513 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: and sometimes Buddha may want to take chances, and you 514 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: really want a veteran to understand that sometimes your playmaker 515 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: is going to do things that aren't necessar fairly uh 516 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: how it was written up in the particular play, so 517 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: he can he can bounce off of that. He can 518 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: he can play off of that and actually pick up 519 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: that slack and that allows Buddha to to have that 520 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: freedom to take even more chances. Knowing that, Sean, I'm 521 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: going to have it that. I think you make a 522 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: great point, b Train And just based on you know 523 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: some of the guys the Cardinals have signed that they 524 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: had intel on Jordan Phillips and uh, you know VJ 525 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: was in Miami, they had intel on j J. Watt. 526 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: But I got to think he this isn't about the 527 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Buddy system. It's about he goes in there and the 528 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals trust his evaluation still got to go through the 529 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, the contract and everything else. But I think 530 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: Vance has been a really good voice for Cliff. I think, 531 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, it helps him out obviously on game day 532 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: with the defense. Um. So it's nice to have these relationship, 533 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: but you're right, at the end of the day, these 534 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: guys got to come here and perform. And I want 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: to go back to something you said, MJ as far 536 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: as now the face and the leader of that defense, 537 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: and that would be Buddha Baker because because I think 538 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: he does take over as far as the most tenured 539 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: defensive player in that locker room. And this is nothing 540 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: against Chandler Jones, but I think people look to a 541 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker based off his performance and his production and 542 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: the fact that he has been on the field and 543 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: hasn't had knock on wood a lot of injuries a 544 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: game here or there. But then he also plays hurts 545 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: and I think Baker has mentioned that this defense needs 546 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: to get better, even though they were pretty darn good 547 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. For me, kind of like a perfectionist, 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, so of course you understand that there's progression, 549 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: but you also know that there's a lot more work 550 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: to be done. There's a lot more things that you 551 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: can do and certain players can do to elevate this 552 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: team to get more WS. I don't think it's going 553 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: out on OLMB train to say that the defense outperformed 554 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: the offense last year. Now, whether that's the case in 555 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, who knows. But there is certainly been 556 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: an increase and a progress from year one to year two, 557 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: and that should only be tenfol now going to the 558 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: year three under the same defensive coordinator, under the same 559 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: defensive scheme, everybody's going to feel more comfortable, the roles 560 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: will be more defined, and coach Joseph Wool feel more 561 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: comfortable making calls based on personnel that he knows that 562 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: much more intimately. So it just it can't help but 563 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: get better. Once you are more familiar with the group 564 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: of players, the more you know their tendencies, you know 565 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: their strength, you know their weaknesses, and now you can 566 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: actually make calls that can accentuate their positives and limit 567 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: their negatives. So this can only help this defense as 568 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a whole and help this team as a whole. And 569 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with the defense out performing the offense. 570 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean championships are built on defense, and they're one 571 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: by defense. So you know, I don't know why we 572 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: waste so much time talking about the offensive side, because 573 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: you know those guys, you know, they're they're minimal and 574 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: their contributions to a team success. It really is all 575 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: about the defense. But I will say this in all seriousness, 576 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the defense has showed up, I think 577 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: that gives coach keyes Berry got much more confidence to 578 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: take chances, if you will, on the offensive side. Knowing 579 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: that on the defensive side you've got guys that can 580 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: make plays and can get you the ball back in 581 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: a short period of time. That allows you to be 582 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: more aggressive in your play calling. And those offensive guys 583 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: know that if they make a mistake, they know that 584 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: that other side of the ball is going to do 585 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: everything that they can to get them the ball back 586 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: so that they can correct whatever mistake that they had made. 587 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: And I got the impression we're going to see more 588 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: of a vocal for a Baker because Patrick's no longer here. 589 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you know Chandler Jones, you know, but 590 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: I think if you talk to J. J. Watton, Chandler Jones, 591 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: they would defer to boot us defense. I mean that's 592 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: where it really and again you need all loving guys. 593 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be more vocal. Man. 594 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: We found out last year between him and Kylin Murray 595 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: during the week of practice. You know, I think there 596 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: was accountabile. Hey we're out, how you're messing around, Let's 597 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: start practicing, So more vocal Buddha Baker more plays, and 598 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: let's hear from Buddha Baker on just that subject to 599 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: you address the media at the end of the season, 600 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: talking about taking on more of a leadership role for 601 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: me personally, of course, talking more is definitely something that 602 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, of course I'm gonna want to do, just 603 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: because I'm that guy. Fifth year in, I'm that guy 604 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: that everybody sees, you know, so definitely want to talk 605 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: more for Stuart and we will see more from Buddha 606 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: Baker and the rest of the Arizona Cardinals coming up 607 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. It is official the NFL is 608 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: moving to a seventeen game regular season b train and 609 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: that seventeenth game, the Arizona Cardinals will play at the 610 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns as the NFC West is paired with the 611 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: AFC North, so a seventeen game season for the Cardinals, 612 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: another opportunity to get some more w in then facing 613 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: another playoff opponent, the Browns one eleven and five last season, 614 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: but we get to see Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield 615 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: once again. That was a fun match up the first 616 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: time around. But seventeen games speed train the club players 617 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: and owners. They agreed to this and we knew it 618 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: was going to happen as a matter of time. And 619 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: here it is happening officially on March thirtieth. Yeah, here 620 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: we go, and I think you're going to start to 621 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: see what really is going on, what the league thinks 622 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: about the players, because now you're adding more opportunities for 623 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: these players to get injured. And I know this was 624 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: collectively bargain, and of course they hadn't changed the sixteen 625 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: game format since nineteen seventy eight, but I just figured 626 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: if there was, if it wasn't broke, don't fix it. 627 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: It's a nice, clean even number. You played a decision 628 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: or two and you have that those set amount of games. 629 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: But now you're going to have an odd number of games, 630 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: and it gives the owners that much more opportunity to 631 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: make more money. So whenever you start talking about the 632 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: business side and why things are being done, all you 633 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: gotta do is look at the moneys, look at the financials. 634 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Who tends to gain the most from those situations, And 635 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: that's going to tell you all you need to know. 636 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: And I think from a player's perspective, this doesn't make 637 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But when you did go to 638 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: the table, you had a chance to take that off 639 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: the table in the negotiations, but you left it on 640 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: because you wanted certain amenities. And when you got those amenities, 641 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: you had to give up something, and giving up was 642 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: the seventeen or the extra game. So now you're going 643 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: to have more games, and it'll be interesting to see 644 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: if the salaries go up. It'll be interesting to see 645 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: how contracts are going to be played out because you're 646 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about one extra game, one less preseason game. 647 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: So it's something that has been talked about for a 648 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: long time and now it's here. And how will this 649 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: affect TV deals with the NFL. I mean, there's a 650 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts of this, so I'll be interested 651 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: to see what the fallout is. Commissioner Roger Goodell calling 652 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: this a quote monumental moments in NFL history, a seventeen 653 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: game regular season and now the Cardinals playing seven teams 654 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: nine games against opponents who made the playoffs last season. Now, 655 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: we know things have changed quickly from year to year, 656 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: but the Cardinals schedule just got a whole lot tougher. 657 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: And the fact that they get to go to Cleveland 658 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: next year, and of course the schedule expected be released 659 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: at some point this offseason, most likely post draft berd Gang. 660 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: If you haven't already, make sure you update to the 661 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The app 662 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: features in all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy Cardinals 663 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: dot com slash app for more. When we come back, 664 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: some more news. It has been anything but quiet in 665 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: the NFC West for the forty nine Ers, Seahawks and 666 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: Rams have done. That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals 667 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: Radio network. Oh hey there, right there, Oh hey, how 668 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: are you doing it? Pretty far south? I don't know 669 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: if it's kind of snow today behind. Oh my gosh, 670 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: we're in the state time. Oh. I brought my toboggan 671 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: just in case. My good man's talking at weather here. 672 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: It's beautiful and see Jimmy Jesus jin Line. Holy yow 673 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: that unready, guys got such a jim Line. He's got 674 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: a fun chat. Oh my goods, that is one of 675 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: a nine. What a man he is. Oh yes, it's 676 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: one of the favorites drops if you will, of our 677 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amhundro, George Kittle, Joe Staley talking about Jimmy 678 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: Garoppolo NFL films back in the day. And I don't 679 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: know how much more we'll be able to play that 680 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: considering what is going on with the San Francisco forty 681 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: nine Ers as we ended this week's Cardinals Red Sea 682 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Report looking around the NFC West, and I guess we 683 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: got to start first and foremost b train with what 684 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: is going on with the forty nine ers. I wouldn't 685 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: call it a Friday news dump. It was Friday morning, 686 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: but the entire first round of the draft sent into 687 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: the air and upheaval as the forty nine Ers now 688 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: have the third overall pick, and if you're going to 689 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: make that move from twelve to three, you are going 690 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: to draft the quarterback, and well, what does that say 691 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: about their currents quarterback in Garoppolo, Well, it says that 692 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be very much long draft. I think 693 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: he should maybe put the house up for sale and 694 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: start looking elsewhere. Maybe real estate in Connecticut, you know 695 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, or Massachusetts, if you will, because it 696 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: doesn't seem as if they are content with him as 697 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: their quarterback going forward, and the team is so curious 698 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers is I look at this team, 699 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good football team, and they're going 700 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: to have a lot of pieces back. Yeah, if you're 701 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: really trying to contend for a championship, are you really 702 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: going to give the reins over to a rookie quarterback? 703 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: So you know, coach Shanahan has said, you know, they 704 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: feel like they can win with Jimmy g But are 705 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: you really trying to win or are you wanting a 706 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be available, because I don't I 707 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: don't think that you're gonna I don't think Jimmy going 708 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: to be a guy that you're gonna want to have 709 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: on a roster while you're you're pining over his younger, 710 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: cheaper replacement and you know, consider, you know, consider better replacement. So, uh, 711 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: it's very interesting what's going on in San Francisco. And 712 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: I'll be very interesting, very interested to see how this 713 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: whole thing plays out, all right, I mean the thing 714 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: is the world right now, right, That's that's what we're here. 715 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously when Josh Rosen was here. So I mean, 716 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense to where you know his 717 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: cap numbers, He's got a good cap number, but he 718 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: comes off the books and you have that rookie on 719 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: his rookie contract where you're gonna eventually have to extend 720 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: some of those players on that roster, some of the 721 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: guys that are coming up. We know Kid obviously got paid. 722 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: I would. I mean, it's going to be difficult if 723 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: they get off to a rough start in week seven 724 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: or eight, and are they ready to go to the 725 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: next quarterback where they can try to trade him. So 726 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: I think they're in the wind mode now. But they're 727 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: going to get a rookie on a rookie contract for 728 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: the Nooks four or five years and they can continue 729 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: to keep that talent in San Francisco. And I think 730 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: what they're hoping for is Garoppolo leads the team in 731 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and then they said goodbye and they 732 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: let that rookie quarterback sits and watch and the question 733 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: is whether that's is Zach Wilson, and if it's not 734 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson because he goes to the Jets at number two, 735 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: is that justin fields Trey Lance mac jones. That's the 736 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: question that the forty nine ers are certainly having. And 737 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: don't forget they got a new offensive coordinator coming in, 738 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel taking over. He was the run game coordinator 739 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: a year ago, so he gets the promotion. But things 740 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: are different a little bits in San Francisco. Trent Williams 741 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: did resign, so that's a big piece to their offensive puzzle. 742 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan still the head coach. That's play. That's true. 743 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Chaine, I don't know if 744 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: there has been a bigger change as far as team 745 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: in the NFC. Weathwer's respects to the Los Angeles Rams. 746 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: They have a number of new faces, They've lost more 747 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: than half a dozen assistants, and they lost their defensive 748 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: coordinator and a number of players are no longer on 749 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: the team because well, the biggest is Jared Goff. They 750 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: get a new quarterback, but Michael Brocker's Malcolm Brown, Gerald Everett, 751 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: Troy Hill, Johnny Johnson, Josh Reynolds those it's gonna be 752 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: betraying a much different looking Rams team next season. But 753 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: perhaps the only difference people are going to pay attention 754 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: to is who's under center. Yeah, and the fact that 755 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: they've got Matthew Stafford, a lively armed guy that is 756 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: a proven gunslinger and a guy that can get the 757 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: ball to reckless their weapons. That was kind of his thing. 758 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: He just was frustrated out there in Detroit. And and 759 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: this team, I think it's gonna look prod merely the same. 760 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: And as long as Sean mcvagh is still that the 761 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: head coach, I still think that they're gonna be a 762 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: formidable opponent. And you still got that bad man in 763 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: the middle of that defensive line and Aaron Donald. So 764 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: they haven't really gone anywhere as far as personnel. I mean, 765 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: there are some some different faces there, but the core 766 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: is still there. And then you add in an upgrade 767 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: with a lot of people's opinion at the quarterback position. 768 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: Now it makes this division and that particular team that 769 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: much more formidable. So again I've said this has been 770 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: an arms race in the NFC West. Every team has 771 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: made moves to try to better themselves and the Los 772 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams are no different. And we'll see if the 773 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: coaching staff changes are going to be a detrimental to 774 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: this team's progress or will the players still ultimately decide 775 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: what happens and will they still be a contender in 776 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: the NFC West and in the NFC as a whole. 777 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: You know, last year you can make the case and 778 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: not just winning the Super Bowl, but the numbers he 779 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: put up was probably Brady was the best free agent signing. 780 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can make the case for the Cardinals. 781 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: JJ Watt definitely created headlines. I think Matthew Stafford when 782 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: we look at this, he could be one of the 783 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: better trades in the offseason because he's an upgrade. And 784 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: they went out and got to Sean Jackson. Now clearly 785 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: he's been injured, but he can run the fly pattern, 786 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: he can run a post pattern. And they retain Leonard Floyd, 787 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: so they're keeping their somewhat core. And I think they 788 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: believe in cam Akers to be their bell cow, which 789 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: they were winning with Todd Gurley. So the Rams certainly 790 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: still the Rams, at least from the Cardinal's perspective. Considering 791 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's record against the Cardinals, and then the other team, 792 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They've got some changes on the coaching ranks 793 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: as well. Bryan Schottenheimer fires that they got a new 794 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and Shane Waldron who spent the past four 795 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: seasons with the Rams. And then of course Russell Wilson 796 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: going public with not liking how things have gone and 797 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: he maybe needs a more help and did they do 798 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: enough on the offensive line. Gabe Jackson was acquired via 799 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: a trade. They do have Gerald Everett the tight end 800 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: from the Rams. He's back, Chris Carson is back. They 801 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: just announced the resigning Carlos Dunlap, but they did lose 802 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: a Carlos Hide to Shaquille Griffin. Greg Olsen retired, as 803 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: did Mikey Potti. So what do you make the Seahawks 804 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: right now? Be trained? As far as with this, I 805 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you want to call it, with the 806 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: Brussell Wilson and his comments post Super Bowl kind of 807 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: hanging over everything in that organization, can I could to 808 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: be determined as far as the status of this team, 809 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: because we don't know what this team is going to 810 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: look like. It's going to look dramatically different. If Russell 811 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: Wilson is not on his roster, and if he is 812 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: on the roster, then they're going to be a threat 813 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: once again. Seattle pretty much comes and goes on the 814 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: shoulders of Russell Wilson. And then when you can talk 815 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll, you could talk about, you know, the 816 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: deep or the staff and all the guys they have 817 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff, but really they have gone and 818 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: had success as Russell Wilson has had success, and the 819 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: fact that he's not happy and they haven't really said 820 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: much about we're not looking to shop Russell Wilson. I mean, 821 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: the fact that he's still dangling out there, it just 822 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: kind of makes you wonder the closer we get to 823 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: the draft, will he even be in Seattle Seahawks, Because 824 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: I think you have to wait and see if he's 825 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: going to be there and how you assess this team, 826 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: because he is a big part of what they've been 827 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: for the last you know, nineteen years. So if he's 828 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: not there, they're gonna look entirely different than what they 829 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: would if he were under center. Without questions. I have 830 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: to remind myself they were twelve and four last year. 831 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: At twelve and four, now they obviously he got off 832 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: to a great start in September. He's probably MVP, and 833 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: then we know that offensively they couldn't score. Teams will 834 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: obviously be able to shut him down, but they were 835 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: twelve and four. I think he sticks there this year 836 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: because of the cap hit thirty nine million, but he 837 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: won't be on the roster next year. Well. February twenty fifth, 838 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: Wilson's agent told the ESPN that if he wants, he 839 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: still wants to play. Russell Wilson wants to play in Seattle, 840 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: but if the trade were to be considered, he'd only 841 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: go to the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders, and Bears. And that 842 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: certainly sounds like a crack at the foundation with the 843 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. Cardinal fans certainly hope that is exactly what 844 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: happens in twenty twenty one. Be train, good stuff. How 845 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: about we do it again next week? Why not? 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