1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Wow. You know, it's gotten to the point around here 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: where we've added so many new listeners and I've told 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: so many stories so long ago that well we got 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: to tell some of them again, and we're going to 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: do that today. It is The Lake Extra Podcast, Wednesday, 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: April sixth, Year of The Lord, twenty twenty two. I'm 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Josh Pate. We got a mail bag coming at you, 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the likes of which mail bag episodes have never seen before, 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: having a lot of fun. Quite frankly, with this format, 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: you guys have been completely off the charts. One hundred 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: and thirteen percent year over year growth for the show 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: with over a twenty one minute average viewer and listener, 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: just complete insanity. I appreciate it. I'm always humbled by 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. We were on the phone with a major 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: potential client yesterday and they, well I don't fault them, 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: they needed us to prove that. That's how crazy and 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: out of this world those numbers have. Thank you, guys. 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: So we got a mail bag this morning. There's a 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: lot of overflow from what I couldn't get in Late 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Kick Live last week, So let's waste no time. Let's 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: dive right in. Jack going to lead us off. He said, Hey, Josh, 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: if the NFL were to theoretically lower the draft eligibility 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: requirement age to where you only had to play let's 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: say one year or be out of high school one year, 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: do you think this would promote parody in college football? Well, Jack, 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: I think it would be presented as that. I think 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: it would be presented as a vehicle for parody. And 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: what he's asking is if they went to a model 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: I kind of sort of like we see in college 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: basketball where you see someone and done's if we had 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: that in college football with the superstar players that you 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: see litter rosters like Georgia or Clemson or Alabama, would 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: we see them disproportionately affected by that? Would you lose 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of Bryce Young's or Trevor Lawrence's and all 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, then the little guy gets a shot. Well, 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: I think that's what people would be fooled into believing 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: is going to happen. And maybe case by case it would, 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: but Jack, far more than likely I think would be 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Alabama losees a guy like Bryce Young and then they 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: just go find a Desmond Ritter to transfer to them. 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: They go find a fourth or fifth year quarterback to 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: transfer to them. If Georgia loses Nakobe Dean after year one, 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: they just go take a fourth year linebacker from Colorado. 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: They go take the best of the multi year starters 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: via the transfer portal from other programs. I can just 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: tell you there is no model that we keep searching 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: for wherein these major programs are going to be negatively 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: impacted and you're going to skate by. That's not happening. 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: If there's going to be a negative impact, it's going 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: to happen from the bottom of the ladder up. It's 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: not going to start at the top of the ladder. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: So I hope we don't get there, because I think 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: football is a far different developmental sport than basketball is, 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: let's say, or baseball. So I hope we don't get there. 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: But if we did, no, I don't think it would 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: promote nearly the parody that some people would be led 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: to believe it would promote. Stephanie in Greenville, South Carolina. 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Up next, Stephanie said, Hey, could you tell that story 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: again about Lane Kiffen and his agent. I heard it before, 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: but I wanted to remember the details. Well, Stephanie, the 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: year was twenty fifteen. The site was the Georgia Dome 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Rest in Peace in Atlanta, Georgia. And this was back 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: when Lane Kiffen was the offensive coordinator at Alabama. I've 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: told this story a couple of times, but like Stephanie said, 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: it's been a while. So if you got a story 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: you want to hear again, I figure it's about that time. 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: If we've got one hundred and thirteen percent year over 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: year growth and I haven't told stories in a year, 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: stands to reason we need to repeat some of them. 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: So anyway, Lane Kiffin's up for all these jobs, right, 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: you got a bunch of jobs that are open, and 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: his name's being thrown about because remember, he's come from 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: being fired on the tarmac from USC to totally rehabbing 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: his image, and he's been the offensive coordinator at Alabama 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: and now he's ready for a head coaching job. So 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Kiffin had put out leading up to the SEC Championship 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: game that he wasn't going to talk to anyone and 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: wasn't going to interview for any jobs before the end 79 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: of the season, meaning the SEC Championship game. So wait 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: until then and I'll talk to you. Now, I know 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: when you guys hear that sometimes, and you hear coaches 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: say that, maybe you think it's BS, maybe you think 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of back channel talking, or maybe you 84 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: think it's authentic, And I can tell you sometimes it 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: could be any of the three. Well, I got a 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: vantage point here that I've never had before. So I'm 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: only a couple of years at that point into being 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: able to cover games. So I'm on the field after 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: the game Alabama beat Florida, I think it was for 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: the SEC Championship, and they're walking off the field. They're 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: headed down the tunnel. Jimmy Sexton, who is the super agent. 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: He's the agent of most of the big name coaches, 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: including Lane Kiffin, including Nick Saban. He is standing just 94 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: out of the public's eye down the tunnel with his 95 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: hand over the speaker of a cell phone. He's already 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: on the phone with someone and he's on hold, essentially 97 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: waiting for Lane Kiffin. Lanme Kiffin is walking off the 98 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: field and he takes the phone from Jimmy Sexton and 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: right there those two are walking down the tunnel and 100 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: down the hallway to the locker room, and he's already 101 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: on the phone with someone. So Lane Kiffin stands outside 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: the locker room for several minutes, and he's on the phone. Now, 103 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who he was on the phone with. 104 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: We know he eventually took the Florida Atlantic job, but 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: he was being talked about as potential OC at LSU, 106 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: maybe the head coach at Houston, like there were several 107 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: job openings. Kiffen ends up taking Fau. I can't promise 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: you that's who he was on the phone with at 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: that point. In fact, I would strongly lean towards the 110 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: possibility he wasn't on the phone with Fau, but maybe 111 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: someone else. While he's on the phone, Kiffen beats Nick 112 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Saban down the tunnel. Nick Saban's out on the field 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: still doing interviews and you know, they had a trophy 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: presentation and stuff like that. So I'm standing there and 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and Jimmy Sexton are there. Sexton's just standing there, 116 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Kiffin's on the phone, and it was the most surreal 117 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of awkward moment because here comes Nick Saban, and 118 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Saban's agent is Jimmy Sexton, and obviously they're very close too. 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Sexton's been with Sabin for a long time. And Saban 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: walks past both of them won't even look at Lane Kiffin, 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: does not communicate with Jimmy Sexton and goes in the 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: locker room. So Nick Saban goes and does his postgame 123 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: press conference, and Lane Kiffin's on the phone a couple 124 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: of times, and I don't know what's happening there, but 125 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm observing it all. So anyway, here's what's funny. The 126 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: rest of the coaching staff normally what's happening around this 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: time is they're in there getting changed. They're getting showered 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: if they want to take a shower, but they're getting 129 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: changed because when you travel on the road, you're going 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: to put on a suit to leave the stadium, and 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: the coaches are in there doing that. Well, Lane Kiffin's 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: still in his coaching pullover. I mean he hadn't even 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: gotten in the shower yet. Well, what's funny is after 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Sabin's press conference, Sexton and Kiffen are still outside the 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: locker room. Saban walks back down the tunnel, walks right 136 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: past both of them again, no eye contact, no communication 137 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: with either one of them, and goes back in the 138 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: locker room. He gets dressed. State troopers take him to 139 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: the buses and the buses are all loaded up. Well, 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: here's the problem. Kiffin's not ready yet. In fact, he 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: hasn't even gone in the locker room yet. So about 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the time Lane Kiffen gets done talking to whoever he 143 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: was talking to or whom's toever, it's time to go. 144 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: And the folks who handle the travel for Alabama are 145 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: very emphatically telling Lane Kiffin, you don't have time to shower. 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: We need you on the bus right now. We're about 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: to leave. And so Kiffin says, hold on his second, 148 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: let me go get my bag. He pulls the hold 149 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: on a second. Lang Kiffin went and showered. He went 150 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: in the locker room and showered, and they are losing 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: their minds. They left him Alabama linkiff It wasn't even 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the only time they left him at a venue that year. 153 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: They left him saved said nope, we're gone, and so 154 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: they left, and so too did Lane Kiffin. Now remember 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: that was when he stayed for I think the semi 156 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: final game against Washington and I think that's the way 157 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: that went, or maybe it was the semi final against 158 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Michigan State. Either way, that was the year where they 159 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: fired him right before the National championship game. So that 160 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: would have been twenty sixteen. They fired him seven days 161 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: before a national title game. Nick Saven says, nope, it's 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I can't take it anymore. So, Stephanie, 163 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: that was the Lane Kiffin story that was really fun 164 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: to watch. Let's get seth here from Tucson, Arizona, which 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: I used to pronounce Tucson for a long time, or Tuscan. 166 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: He says, do you have any thoughts on a Ji 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Hall's dismissal from Alabama? This is pretty interesting. A lot 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: of you know that name because you follow recruiting. He 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: was a five star wide receiver for a lot of 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: services this two cycles ago, I guess now, and he 171 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: was a true freshman, and he just lit up Bama's 172 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: spring game last year, and he had a lot of people, 173 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: myself included, thinking he was going to be a huge 174 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: contributor to that team this year. This past year never 175 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: really saw a ton of action until virtually every BAMA 176 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: receiver got hurt and he got put in in the 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: National Championship game and he made a couple of big plays. 178 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: He botched a couple of plays that could have been big, 179 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and Alabama loses. Nick Saban in the weeks afterwards really 180 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: poignantly talks about how there were guys on the team 181 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: that got a shot that did not take advantage of 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: it because they didn't prepare right. Many people, again myself included, 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: strongly believe that was directed at a Ji Hall among 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: other folks. He wasn't the only one. Well, it comes 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: out today and I'm recording on Tuesday. It comes out 186 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: today that a Gi Hall's name is not on the roster, 187 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: he is no longer reportedly no longer a member of 188 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the Alabama football program. What do I think about it? 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Is Seth's question. Well, I think that this was inevitable. 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: I think we've seen it coming for a little while. 191 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: If you've been able to read the tea leaves, I 192 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: will also tell you this, I've got reason to believe. 193 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't think this was merely a coaching decision. I 194 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: think that there were probably some guys in that locker 195 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: room who felt it was time to do that. And 196 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: that's the way a lot of these big time programs operate. 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: When you're at your best, the players are taking accountability 198 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: and ownership of the team. Sometimes, you know, it's like 199 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Gary Burtier letting Ray, go Ray, I got to cut 200 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: you loose sometimes you just got to know when to 201 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: cut a man loose. That was and remember the Titans. 202 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it went down exactly like that here, 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me at all if down the 204 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: road little ways you start to hear stories about how, hey, 205 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: players and coaches alike realized it's probably time to move 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: on here. You know, Saban's talked a lot about this 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: team in spring is having no negative guys, no complainers, 208 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys just doing their jobs. And 209 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like, at least from what we hear out 210 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: of Tuscaloosa, they've got the right team chemistry. So I 211 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: don't think anyone's really going to be complaining. I don't 212 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: think you'll hear about this a whole lot after this week, 213 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: per Se Drew in Fort Worth, Texas. Would college football 214 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: benefit from a postseason championship like the NIT in college basketball? 215 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: If so, how would you set it up? Well, I 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't set it up at all, Drew. I am of 217 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: that crazy opinion that we don't have to mirror other sports. 218 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: And I am of that crazy opinion that before people 219 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: came here about fifteen minutes ago and messed everything up. 220 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: Bowl season was just fine the way it was, and 221 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay with bowl season now now it could it 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: have been irreparably harmed to some degree by all this 223 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: foolishness with playoff and then talk of an expanded playoff 224 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: and therefore meaningless bowl games their words, not mine, and 225 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: players opting out. Sure, there could be some irreparable harm done, 226 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: but I'm also not a believer that the folks who 227 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: made the mess should be tasked with cleaning up the mess. 228 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: So the crowd, the expansionist, the casuals out there who 229 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: made the mess need to get out of the way, 230 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: and then let's preserve what we can preserve. So to me, Drew, 231 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: my ideal college football postseason format is, let's take traditional 232 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: bowl tie ins i e. The Big Ten and the 233 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Pac twelve and the Rose Bowl. Unless one of them 234 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: is good enough to make the playoff. I would not 235 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: like to see that playoff expanded further than it is. 236 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: And then down ballot, it's an election season, we can 237 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: use that terminology. Down ballot, I'd like to see those 238 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: bowl games just be those bowl games. I mean, I'd 239 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: like to see the Capitol One Bowl be the Capitol 240 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: One Bowl. There was a time not too long ago. Kids, 241 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: if you're sixteen or seventeen, you're listening. There was a 242 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: time not too long ago where there were teams that 243 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: won nine games in a year, and they went down 244 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: to Orlando and they played each other on New Year's 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Day in the Capitol One Bowl, and they played their 246 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: hearts out, and they played with their hair on fire 247 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: over the cliff, everything on the line, and they celebrated 248 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: winning a bowl game that didn't have a playoff sticker 249 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: attached to it. Can you believe that? Oh, what a 250 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: world that must have been? Yes, it was. But then 251 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people who have never built anything 252 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: successful or maintained anything in their life outside of the 253 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: neighbor's lawn when they were growing up for twenty bucks 254 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: a week told you that what you got is not 255 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: good enough. What you've built there and what you've sustained 256 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: for oh, I don't know, about one hundred years in 257 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: some shape, form or fashion was not good enough. And 258 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: we need it to mirror this and that. And I 259 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: watched this professional sport, let's take part of that and 260 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: apply it. And I watch that professional sport. Let's apply 261 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: that here and there, and all of a sudden, you've 262 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: got this little conglomeration that once was college football and 263 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: still is at its core, the Christmas Tree of college 264 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: football is still there, but it's got some sucky ornaments 265 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: on it. Right now, I'm just going to put it 266 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: to you like it is. Sorry, little Charlie there in 267 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: the passenger seat, but sometimes we've got to shoot straight, 268 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, while I'm at it, because this is going 269 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: to apply to a lot of you for a lot 270 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: of different reasons. I mean, you can relate to this, 271 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I really like a lot of 272 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: what technology has brought us. The Web, social media both 273 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: play an integral part in late kick and totality. That 274 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: is where our show is housed. So yes, I love him, 275 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: and it provides me a means to communicate with you. 276 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Love all that, But what I do hate. There's always 277 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: a downside to the progress of technology, and one of 278 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: the things I hate is how amplified minority voices on 279 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: issues have become. And college football is no different. Here's 280 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: how I watched it play out. You guys watched right 281 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: along with me. We're still very early on. If you 282 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: think about it, things like Instagram, things like Twitter. They 283 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: haven't been around that long. What are we fifteen years 284 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: in on some of these things? Ten to fifteen years in, 285 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: let's just safely say a little bit long in the ten. 286 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: So let's call it fifteen years in, that's still young. 287 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: And if you rewind ten years when all this first started, 288 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: when the push towards the playoff really started in earnest, 289 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: we were so early on that you didn't know how 290 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: to interpret what you heard on those platforms. You heard 291 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: it on a social media platform. You saw four people 292 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: say something, you just thought that must be the majority 293 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: opinion because I saw four people say it. I saw 294 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: four people say that Bowl games don't mean enough and 295 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: we need to hatch something, we need to expand the 296 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: playoff or else. These things don't mean anything. They're meaningless 297 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: bowl games, And all of a sudden that just took off. 298 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Now we've got a little bit more sense about ourselves, 299 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: hopefully as a society. And nowadays you understand Twitter's not 300 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: real life, and what you hear on Twitter is not 301 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: real life. It's so easy to make a dozen look 302 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: like a million on Twitter. It's so easy, ridiculously easy. 303 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: There are major corporations out there that change policy because 304 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: of being fooled by things like that. I think we 305 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: got fooled by it in college football too, and a 306 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: lot of people allowed these phrases in this way of 307 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: thinking to take off. And now I didn't find myself 308 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: like this, but some of you may have even gotten 309 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: suckered into believing that your way of thinking was too 310 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: old school and you were too stuck in the past 311 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: by believing such things as bowl season was okay the 312 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: way it was. How dare you by the way ball 313 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: season just okay? It is, and it was and it 314 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: could be again. There's the James Earl Jones quote. It 315 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: represents all that once was good and it could be again. 316 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: He was talking about BA but we could just as 317 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: easily be talking about bowl season. So Drew, I say 318 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 1: this humbly but firmly, leave my bowls alone. Chris in Austin, Texas, 319 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: will you have paid state material stickers for sale soon 320 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that we can place on bottles and our cars and whatnot. 321 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't have much room left, but I'm willing to 322 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: make some room. Chris. Yes, they're coming. And for that matter, 323 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're getting a little bit closer to pressing 324 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: the go button on this. I know I've told you 325 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: that for a year and a half, but for real, 326 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: we're getting a little bit closer. Here's what I do need, 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: not by tomorrow, but in general, I'm going to start 328 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: listening through the dms, of course at late Kick, Josh, 329 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. I'm going to start listening to ideas 330 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: from you. What I want to know is what you want? 331 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Chris wants stickers. I know 332 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you want T shirts and whatnot. Of 333 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: course those will be available, but what is it you're 334 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: looking for? What sort of novelty items? If you were 335 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: running apparel and merchandising and product, what would you be 336 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: looking to produce? If you're going up and down the 337 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: virtual shelves of our store, what are you looking to grab? 338 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. The vision I have 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this and I'll leave it alone. 340 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: The vision I have for this when we finally are 341 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: able to pull the lever on it, I think far 342 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: superseds maybe even what a lot of you have in mind. 343 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: Just to be ready, is all I'm saying. There's going 344 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: to be a lot of opportunity for you. There's going 345 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: to be a lot of crowdsourcing on this. I think 346 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: we've got one of the most creative and funny audiences 347 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: anywhere in the college football space. The it's not one 348 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: of you are the best, sharpest, most creative, and entertaining 349 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: and funny audience in the college football space. Therefore, I'm 350 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: going to lean on you for a lot of ideas, 351 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: and I'm going to lean on you to do one 352 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: more thing too. Sit back as we throw this at you. Oh, 353 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I'd say that was about a nine and a half 354 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: on a one to ten scale of sneaking. The ad 355 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: read up on you? Anybody who expected it? Again, I'm 356 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: calling bs on you. I just think you're lying. But 357 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: you may have gotten lucky. Who knows, blind squirrel, broken clock, 358 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: you know the old sayings. Let's continue here. Robert did 359 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: not give a location, but Robert did give a question, 360 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: which teams do you think will be most active during 361 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: the post spring transfer portal window. I got one I'm 362 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: really focused on right now, and that is Florida. I 363 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: think the Gators are hurting for depth in a number 364 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: of positions. Billy Napier has spoken about this publicly down there. 365 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: They have had to adjust the way they practice in 366 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: many cases because they don't have the depth. They don't 367 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: have threes in most cases right now, and because of 368 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: injury in spring, they've had to even move guys and 369 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: play them out of position, cross train them as you 370 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: call it, if you want to put a more positive 371 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: spin on it, at positions that aren't naturally theirs. So 372 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: certainly they know the score. Napier's talked about it. Like 373 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: I said, in press conferences down there. They know what 374 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: they inherited. It's not like they're wasting time complaining about it. 375 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, oh man, when they get out of spring ball, 376 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: which is going to be pretty soon here, I expect 377 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: to see Florida look to add a number of guys. 378 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: Now here's the catch twenty two. What do you do 379 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: if you've got let's say seven or eight roster spots 380 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: realistically that you need to fill and they may have 381 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: more than that for all I know, But let's say 382 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: seven's the number. But you can't quite go and acquire 383 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: seven SEC caliber football players. Well, do you just leave 384 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: those roster spots open? Do you give scholarships to some 385 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: of your walk ons? Do you give scholarships, Guys that 386 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: maybe don't quite fit your parameters for normally being good 387 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: enough to get a scholarship to Florida or get a 388 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: scholarship to play major ball in the SEC just to 389 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: fill the roster out. How are they gonna handle that? 390 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Florida. That's one. I mean, They're 391 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: not the only one. That's one that I think will 392 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: embody the spirit of that question. Michael hit me and said, 393 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: you need to start sharing more of your dms publicly 394 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: if they're as good as the one you posted yesterday. 395 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: So some of you may have missed this. This is 396 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna sound made up. And I know if you're new 397 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: around here. We add a lot of listeners every show, 398 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: you may think this is fake. If you hang around 399 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: the show long enough and you experience what this is 400 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: like and what our audience is like, you'll come to 401 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: realize this is not made up. It's authentic. But if 402 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: you're new around here, I could understand your apprehension for 403 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: believing this is real. But I promise you this is 404 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: a real life direct message that I got on Twitter 405 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: dot com from someone whose name I will not mention, 406 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: but I will read you the message. It says Josh, 407 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your continued commitment on Latekick. I 408 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: look forward every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday mornings to listen 409 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: to your show, and today Monday, I listened to your 410 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: most recent edition of Latekick Live. Through the entirety of 411 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: my vasectomy procedure. My Penn State grad surgeon heard the 412 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: part where you said your Pate State adopted student section 413 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: was Penn State. But I had to be careful for 414 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: obvious reasons. You had selected my A and m Aggies 415 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: as the fan base culture you'd adopt, So which is 416 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: better overall, fan base culture or a student section. I 417 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: would argue fan base culture, but my surgeon literally had 418 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: me by the bollocks, so it seemed like Pate State 419 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: student section won the discussion. Anyway. I love what you do. 420 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work hashtag Pate State. I didn't 421 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: ask for that. I didn't put out a call to 422 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: action to tell me that it's just the beauty of 423 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: the community that we've built around here that is Pate State. 424 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Pate State is knowing that even though you may never 425 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: have met someone face to face or looked him in 426 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: the eye, or spoken to him on the phone or 427 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: so much as texted them back and forth, you feel 428 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: at ease totally sharing the details of your vasectomy or 429 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: various other medical procedures. Guys, this is not even the 430 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: first medical procedure story we've had this week. I didn't 431 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: read the other ones on air. I think I tweeted 432 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: out like three or four of them simultaneous about a 433 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: month ago. Maybe I'll start doing that again when people 434 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: give me permission to do it. Sometimes I'll slip them 435 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: out there. But no, kid, in my inboxes are fascinating 436 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: to behold the things I see on a day to 437 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: day basis, the information details you guys share with me 438 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, you would be willing 439 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: to pay money to scroll through it. I will tell 440 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: you that if I offered a glimpse into my inbox, 441 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: not only would you get that, but you would also 442 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: get coaches in there, so you would get a lot 443 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 1: of behind the scenes access. You would get a lot 444 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: of dirt, you get a lot of scoop. You would 445 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: have other members of media talking behind the scenes, and 446 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: that would fascinate you, guys for totally different reasons. But wow, 447 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: just pay perview quality my inbox. Love it, though, Please 448 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: keep it coming. Jenny's got a really deep question here, 449 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: so let's take some time to unpack this. Jenny from Lynchburg, Virginia, 450 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: by the way, said, given previous talks about burnout within 451 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: college football coaching circles and more pro athletes coming forward 452 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: about their own mental health struggles, what are some struggles 453 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: college athletes face that we may not be talking about. 454 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: How would you address this need as college football commissioner? Jenny? 455 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: There are a million different ones. I'm just going to 456 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: pick one that I never hear talked about because you 457 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: take it for granted. What do you think happens during 458 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: practices on college campuses? When you hear college football practice, 459 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: what do you think? You probably think a lot of instruction, 460 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot of teaching, a lot of fundamental things being 461 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: worked on. Whatever you think. I'm telling you, it varies 462 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: greatly program to program. And one of the biggest struggles 463 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: that I never hear talked about that players face is 464 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're getting in a player when 465 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: they get on your campus. Some of them have come 466 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: up through great high school programs and they've been taught 467 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: the fundamentals of the game, and certainly they're not a 468 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: finished product, but they are well on their way to 469 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: being polished to the point where then they even be 470 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: able to play for you as a true freshman. Then 471 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: you get some other guys. They may be equally, if 472 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: not more talented, just in the god given department, but 473 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: they played in very subpar high school programs and their 474 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: fundamentals aren't there. Well, here's the problem. Sometimes they get 475 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: on campus and you've got a coaching staff full of 476 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: instructors instead of teachers. And what I mean by that, 477 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: if you've ever played sports, you know exactly what I'm 478 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: talking about. When you get on a field and you 479 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know how to do something, it doesn't matter how 480 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: many times you scream at me what to do. I 481 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: need you to show me how to do now. There 482 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: is no room for this in the NFL by the 483 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: time you get to be a professional football player. No, 484 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: they're not supposed to be wasting time in practice teaching 485 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: you fundamentals of anything. You better know it, you better 486 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: have it, and if you don't have it, you better 487 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: perfect your craft in your own time. The NFL coaches 488 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: are not there to teach. They are there to instruct. 489 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: They're there to just fine tune things. But in college. 490 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: When I'm getting you out of let's say Lynchburg, Virginia, 491 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: chances are you are not a finished product. You are 492 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: not polished. But a lot of times on some campuses, 493 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: with some programs, you do not have a coaching staff 494 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: that is equipped to teach. They are equipped to instruct. 495 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: And that's the big difference. If you want to see 496 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: the best developmental programs, they're the ones who have good recruiters. Yeah, 497 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: you got to get the players, and they've got good tacticians, 498 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: they've got good game day coaches. Operationally they're good. Yeah, 499 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: they got all that. But they're also great teachers. They 500 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: are able to teach the game. Now, Jenny and everybody 501 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: else listening, you may take that for granted. Don't. Don't 502 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: take it for granted, because the fact of the matter 503 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: is you want to know something that will mess with 504 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: your mind. Imagine this, because this will mess you up 505 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: big time mentally. Imagine you're a high school football player 506 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: and twenty four to seven sports has evaluated you just 507 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: your God given ability, your talent. What you flash physically 508 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: is enough to get you five stars. You fit the 509 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: physical criteria, You've got the forty times you got the explosiveness, 510 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: you got the ball catching and handling ability or whatever 511 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: it is depending on your position. But you're a five 512 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: star player. Okay, And a lot of times guys get 513 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: rated five stars because of their physical potential. But let's 514 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: say the high school coaching staff that you played under 515 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: did not do the best job developing you. They didn't 516 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: do the best job teaching you the fundamentals of the game. Well, 517 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: you're still so physically gifted. You got the five stars, 518 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: but the problem is you are not developed. Well, guess 519 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: what happens when you get on a college campus. The 520 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: expectation levels not any less because you're not developed. It 521 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: is very high. You're a five star kid. Many people 522 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: may look at you as the crown jewel of that 523 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: particular recruiting class. So then you walk on campus with 524 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: all those five stars and all those expectations, but you're 525 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: not developed. And let's say you get on campus, and 526 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: let's say you get in spring practice and your head 527 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: is swimming. This happens every year. Every year you get 528 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: on campus and all of a sudden reality hits. There's 529 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: some guys that didn't have as many stars as you did. 530 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: There are some three star kids out here, that happen 531 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: to be developed better, and mentally they grasp the game 532 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: better because they were taught the right way, and they're 533 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: running circles around you. Now, I want you to imagine 534 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: being a five star talent, but you don't have the 535 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: development of a five star player, and you're lost as 536 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a true freshman. Now, can you make sense of it? Well, 537 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: if you're fifty years old and you have the wisdom 538 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: to be able to properly diagnose the situation sitting there 539 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: in your rock and chair, yeah, yeah, sure you understand it. 540 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: If you're seventeen or eighteen years old, do you understand it? 541 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: A lot of them don't. A lot of them think 542 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: they're failures. A lot of them think I must have 543 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: been overrated. A lot of them start doubting themselves and 544 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, mentally, where are you at? What's 545 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: in your headspace? Then it's a crapshoot. It's a crapshoot. Depends. 546 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: It's very much a case by case thing. Some guys 547 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: wash out, some guys never overcome it. Because you've got 548 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. You've got a lot 549 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: of uphill battle ahead of you. If you're not developed 550 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: the right way mentally or physically. If you're not developed 551 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: the right way, it doesn't matter how talented you are. 552 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Guys face this every year, and they better be on 553 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: a team with a coaching staff that is able to 554 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: teach the game. If they're not, they are either going 555 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: to wash out, or at the very least, they're going 556 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: to head into the transfer portal and still have to 557 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: start all over somewhere else. So either way, mentally, it 558 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: is a challenge, and it's a much bigger challenge ironically 559 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the more talented you are, because the more talented you are, 560 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: the higher the expectation level, but you're still no more 561 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: equipped to actually follow through on that potential when you 562 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: get to campus. So I'd go down that road. There 563 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: are many different roads you can go down, Jenny, I'd 564 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: go down that road because that's not something anyone ever 565 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: talks about, but it's something that's a reality every single 566 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: recruiting cycle. Jacob from Dayton, Ohio. Next, what is the 567 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: hardest and easiest stadium to get in and out of 568 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: for you? The hardest one was this past year. It 569 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: was at Penn State. That was when Auburn was in town. Obviously, 570 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: it was the white out game. It was a night game, 571 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: and even after waiting an hour and a half after 572 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the game, I had out of Beaver Stadium and it 573 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: was gridlock, traffic tough, first time i've been there. Now 574 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: i'm in the media parking lot, so I'm close to 575 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: the stadium. I don't know how I did it to 576 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: this day, but I just shot down some side road 577 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: and I had been in standstill traffic for thirty minutes. 578 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: I shoot down some side road, I get right on 579 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the highway within five minutes, I'm on the highway. Never 580 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: even came to a complete stop again. I could never 581 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: do it again. I don't know what I did. I 582 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: don't know where I went. I would probably sell that 583 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: information to the locals up there if I didn't know. 584 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: But that was the hardest one for a little while. 585 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: But then I got lucky. I mean, I kid you not. 586 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: I had a flight out of Pittsburgh at six the 587 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: next morning. There was a period there where I didn't 588 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: know if I was going to make it, and the 589 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: game was a night game the night before, So that's 590 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: how that's how dire The situation was. Now the easiest 591 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: one by far is Baylor, because Baylor's right on I 592 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: thirty five there in Waco. The stadium is literally hugged 593 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: up against the interstate. And even with construction going on there, 594 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: I thirty five has been under construction since I want 595 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: to say, the Andrew Jackson administration. Yeah, and so there's 596 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: no end in sight. But even with construction. I was 597 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: there when Oklahoma was in town, and I get there 598 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: to McLean's stadium a few hours early. I mean, driver 599 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: right off the interstate, right in there, park it, get 600 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: in there, ate my breakfast in the press box. Oh 601 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: I miss it already, endless Hash Browns. And then afterwards 602 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: you walk out. I mean, I don't think I hit 603 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: my brakes hardly. You get right on I thirty five 604 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: and driver right up to Dallas and fly home. So 605 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Baylor was a breeze getting in and out of. It 606 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: was a sold out game as a big game, I think, 607 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: probably the biggest one of the year there, but it 608 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: was just so easy. Penn State little bit bigger a challenge. 609 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: But what are we complaining about there? Really? I mean 610 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: we're complaining about traffic on one day. We only get 611 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: twelve of them a year, and really, realistically, the traffic's 612 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: only going to be like that for a handful of them. 613 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: One more question here. This was from It's a long question, 614 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: hold on, So this is from Eric. It's very important. 615 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Now this is a hard hitting question, probably going to 616 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: need some help on it. Eric says he is a 617 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: former college marching band tuba player. So he says, I 618 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed your answer about what your favorite college football fight 619 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: song was, which was usc By the way, thanks to you, 620 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: I forever now use the word pageantry to describe what 621 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: a marching band brings to a fans stadium environment. Bookmark 622 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: that because I'm going to come back to that. Eric 623 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: continues my question to you, what title or nickname would 624 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: you give the Peate State marching band and which instrument 625 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: would band geek Josh Pate be playing. So I got 626 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot to get to here. Let me make sure 627 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I run through it in the order so I don't 628 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: forget anything. My go to instrument would be the snare. 629 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the classifications, but I would want to 630 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: be on the snare and want to be like Nick 631 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: cannon and drum line. But then there is a dark 632 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: horse instrument. I bet none of you are going to 633 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: come up with this. I've always kind of had a 634 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: fascination with the xylophone because you get to stand up 635 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: and you get to bang on that thing like it 636 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: is a percussion instrument, but it sounds I mean, it's 637 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: like the little toy you played with when you were 638 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: a kid. I've always been fascinated with that. Plus, you 639 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: guys hold like multiple whatever the sticks are that you 640 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: hit on xylophone with, they hold multiple pieces of instrumentation 641 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: in their hands. So that's the dark horse instrument. But 642 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: I got to go with snare because as glory as 643 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Stefan taught us, rhythm carries all the action. Now, as 644 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: for the name of the pay State Marching Band, I 645 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: have no clue what in the world should we be 646 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: called the pay State what. We've got a lot of 647 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: different unique band names out there. I'm going to crowdsource 648 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: this because I don't have a good answer here. We 649 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: got time, obviously, that's what God created the off season for. 650 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: So let's workshop that we need a good band name. Now, 651 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: as for the first part of this, Eric said, I 652 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: now forever use the word pageantry to describe what a 653 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: marching band brings. I'm about to sound one hundred and 654 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: thirteen years old, but I'm telling you I do not 655 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: like the amount of piped in music that is played 656 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: at college games, and sometimes it's played over the band. 657 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: I am not a fan of that. I know it's 658 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: got its place. I'm not saying don't ever use piped 659 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: in music, but dude, there's some venues I go to, 660 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: like traditional historic venues by the way, where they're playing 661 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: piped in music between every down, and it's like you 662 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: got a marching band there. I mean, can we not 663 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: let them do their job? They have a role. You 664 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: take up huge and very valuable chunks of real estate 665 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: in the stands to house them. Why aren't you letting 666 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: them carry the day? Why aren't you letting them affect 667 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the atmosphere in the stadium. So that's just a little 668 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: side note. Yes, pageantry absolutely is one of the things 669 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: that a college football band brings if they're any good, 670 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: and most of them are at that level. So I 671 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: appreciate that, Eric, I appreciate you. Guys. Listening needs you 672 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: to continue to do the favor of subscribing to the podcast, subscribe, 673 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: follow whatever they call it. The five star reviews are great, 674 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Liking the videos and subscribing to the YouTube channel great, 675 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: but I also want subscriptions in the podcast, and that's it. 676 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: Don't cost anything, you know the deal, no strings attached. 677 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much. A lot of attention 678 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: on us right now, a lot of good attention, No 679 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: bad attention, just good attention. So let's keep it rolling, 680 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: stay in that sweet spot where we get to do 681 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: whatever we want to with virtually no consequence. Thanks, as always, 682 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: have a great rest of your day at Late Kick 683 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Josh on Twitter and Instagram. Until next time, God bless