Speaker 1: To our remove goll on Deep Speedways Past Hells.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my adds
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. What is up, Dolph fans and welcome
Speaker 2: to the Drive Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: And on today's show, i'd say we're due for another
Speaker 2: roster reset, part number two. Today the defense will take
Speaker 2: a look at each position group, the newcomers, the losses,
Speaker 2: the balance of the room, the questions, the potential camp battles.
Speaker 2: All of that and more, including the acquisition of a
Speaker 2: certain wide receiver we'll talk about Odell Beckham from the
Speaker 2: Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 2: is the Drive Time Podcast. Daffy Fus. You know, the
Speaker 2: best part of the fact that you're listening to a
Speaker 2: May sixth edition of the Draft Time Podcast is the
Speaker 2: fact that the NFL, or rather your Miami Dolphins, have
Speaker 2: tent pole events essentially every week from now up until
Speaker 2: like June eighth, we get schedule released coming up, we
Speaker 2: get Rookie Mini Camp, and by the end of May
Speaker 2: we have Miami Dolphins football practice to cover, which as
Speaker 2: most of you know, is kind of my specialty here
Speaker 2: on the Draft Time Podcast. I feel like there's so
Speaker 2: much to look forward to look forward to. I remember
Speaker 2: telling myself late last season, I cannot imagine getting up
Speaker 2: for camp practices this year after the way this season ended.
Speaker 2: But as it usually goes, that flips and here we
Speaker 2: are after you know, the blackest Monday in Dolphins history,
Speaker 2: and the roster looking the way it does now. I
Speaker 2: am probably as excited for this year as I've ever
Speaker 2: been because doing this exercise, doing this project, going up
Speaker 2: and down the roster, it's loaded. Man, it's as loaded,
Speaker 2: and just from a rookie mini caamp standpoint, I cannot
Speaker 2: wait to watch the two rookie draft picks at that
Speaker 2: mini camp. I remember last year how from the first
Speaker 2: damn rep you could tell a cham was different, a
Speaker 2: different gear. I recall seeing Cam Smith look at the
Speaker 2: most fluid defender on the football field. Now that translates
Speaker 2: to reps and playing time, it did not, But I
Speaker 2: think he can still play. So seeing the two Washington's
Speaker 2: Malik and Toadje run their routes next weekend or this weekend,
Speaker 2: I should say the nuance of their route running in person,
Speaker 2: watching how Patrick Paul moves around the field and our
Speaker 2: first look at his technique in person, how Chop Robinson
Speaker 2: uses his burst plus his hands, the suddenness of Jalen Wright,
Speaker 2: and the get off of Moe Kamara, watching Patrick McMorris
Speaker 2: fly down the field on special teams, and then of
Speaker 2: course just getting to know these UDFA is a little
Speaker 2: bit better. I am fired up man. But first, before that,
Speaker 2: let's conclude part two of the post draft roster reset
Speaker 2: series and talk about this defense. But before that, even
Speaker 2: before all that, I was done with the edge which
Speaker 2: portion of this rundown when I saw the Odell Beckham
Speaker 2: news pretty cool reporting out there via Barry Jackson of
Speaker 2: the Miami Herald, who, for my money continues to be
Speaker 2: the best man on the beat, that the Dolphins set
Speaker 2: a price point and eventually agreed to go up in
Speaker 2: their negotiations and incentives to compromise with what Odell Beckham
Speaker 2: and his representation was looking for. Per Marcel Louis Jock
Speaker 2: a one year, three million dollar deal for Odell Beckham.
Speaker 2: The Bills are out there signing Chase Claypool and spending
Speaker 2: the thirty third pick in the draft on a guy
Speaker 2: that can't get open, and paying more than that for
Speaker 2: that pick, for that matter, one year three million incentives
Speaker 2: up to eight point twenty five million, So he could
Speaker 2: definitely set it off and get those numbers. But I
Speaker 2: hope he does that. And he also said he wanted
Speaker 2: to play here for Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 2: and took less to do that. I mean, the trend
Speaker 2: is impossible to ignore. I know this. You can make
Speaker 2: everything about the quarterback where you can talk about how
Speaker 2: this team is not a destination or it's not in
Speaker 2: the right direction. You can talk about how much you
Speaker 2: despise the moves and the GM. But the league will
Speaker 2: tell you, man, the league will tell you, and they
Speaker 2: have told you so far here with this year's Dolphins.
Speaker 2: And now I get to share my film notes with
Speaker 2: y'all on Odell Beckham, who when I watched him on
Speaker 2: tape about a month and a half or two months ago,
Speaker 2: I saw a great balance. I saw a fantastic body
Speaker 2: control and footwork at the top of the route with
Speaker 2: a springy step out of that first break. He's a
Speaker 2: willing blocker, no block, no rock in this offense right,
Speaker 2: he had a key block on a long Z Flowers
Speaker 2: touchdown catch and run. He has long or his long
Speaker 2: speed has decreased a little bit since his prime, but
Speaker 2: he does have that second gear to accelerate past a
Speaker 2: flat footed cornerback. And that's how Tua throws his anticipation
Speaker 2: in deep shots anyways. He wants to see a cornerback
Speaker 2: squatting and the receiver being three yards on the wrong
Speaker 2: side of that cornerback. Let that thing fly with trajectory
Speaker 2: and let the receiver go flag it down. It's how
Speaker 2: we had all of our exposive plays last year. Essentially,
Speaker 2: his release package wins, especially on the perimeter against press,
Speaker 2: with the ability to stack from that position stand out
Speaker 2: in a big, big way. He's just a great route
Speaker 2: runner still at the stage of his career. I don't
Speaker 2: love the body language all the time, and that's why
Speaker 2: I think some of the production last year can be
Speaker 2: attributed to the offense or the quarterback he played with
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 2: But he's not a timing, rhythm passer who can find
Speaker 2: a great route runner in those slots like Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: did with Odell Beckham when he was at his peak,
Speaker 2: or even Eli Manning with the Giants when he was
Speaker 2: still kicking around and he still had his plus ability
Speaker 2: as an anticipatory thrower with accuracy. Who's how the defense like,
Speaker 2: that's the type of quarterback that Odell Beckham needs, and
Speaker 2: that's the kind of quarterback. Odell Beckham gots into a
Speaker 2: tongue by low. But the body language did bother me
Speaker 2: because you would see him get opened by a half step,
Speaker 2: or the mailbox would go up right, the arm goes up, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm open, and that slows a receiver down. He also
Speaker 2: would display frustration when he didn't get the rep on
Speaker 2: like a takeoff where he felt like he was open.
Speaker 2: So that's the part that kind of concerns me, is
Speaker 2: how does he mesh to a locker room where he's
Speaker 2: not the first option or the second option, or the
Speaker 2: third option or maybe even the fourth option when you
Speaker 2: take kick into account. The receiver's running backs and tight ends.
Speaker 2: But again, the route running reminds me of Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: in the sense that he doesn't shortcut the details and
Speaker 2: he helps expand the defense the way the concepts are
Speaker 2: designed to do that. Tyreek does that, Jalen does that,
Speaker 2: Malik does that, TODJ. Washington does that, and Odell Beckham
Speaker 2: does that. He has the nuances in his game to
Speaker 2: get to his route when it is explicitly taken away,
Speaker 2: like you're gonna play outside leverage against an outroute, He's
Speaker 2: still gonna find a way to get to that part
Speaker 2: of the field. He also knows when to throttle tempo
Speaker 2: in order to get the rest of the concept and
Speaker 2: play out the way it's supposed to. Ie. Don't blow
Speaker 2: past a two man bracket and let their attention get elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Absorb the attention, run your route to the fullest, and
Speaker 2: create the space the defense wants to give the rest
Speaker 2: of the football field. He's shifty with the ball in
Speaker 2: his hands, catches a speed out on a a play
Speaker 2: that I watch against a cover three off cornerback, and
Speaker 2: then makes that cornerback miss and gets fifteen more yards.
Speaker 2: That's what Malak Washington did at Virginia. That's what Tyreek
Speaker 2: Hill does, That's what Jaalen Wadell does, It's what Odell
Speaker 2: Beckham does. With him on the perimeter, teams are not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get lax on those routes and
Speaker 2: just clamp down ten seventeen when they go inside. He's
Speaker 2: quick enough to win double moves and his release to
Speaker 2: get on top of that. I think the versatility it
Speaker 2: provides your offense because when you had you know, I
Speaker 2: still think Malik Washington is a very good candidate to
Speaker 2: be the number three receiver on this football team. But
Speaker 2: when you want to go eleven personnel and you want
Speaker 2: to put Reagan Waddle inside, you can't really do that
Speaker 2: with Malik Washington because he's almost exclusively a slot receiver.
Speaker 2: Beckham gives you a guy that can play the perimeter
Speaker 2: and get more reps inside for those guys. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: fired up, guys. I always love a detour back to
Speaker 2: the offense. Let's go ahead, though, and get back to
Speaker 2: those podcast was supposed to go here on the defensive
Speaker 2: side of the football, and I continue to be fascinated
Speaker 2: by Anthony Weaver and what the staff might cook up
Speaker 2: come game days in twenty twenty four. I think the
Speaker 2: roster building gives you context clues based upon his history,
Speaker 2: where he's been, who he's learned from, And I think
Speaker 2: maybe collectively we make a little bit of a mistake
Speaker 2: by assuming it's just going to be a carbon copy
Speaker 2: of what the Ravens did, because it's probably not going
Speaker 2: to be that. But I think that can be a
Speaker 2: little bit like short sighted in terms of he wasn't
Speaker 2: the DC there. He was a defensive line coach, so
Speaker 2: he has his own ideas and his own thoughts, and
Speaker 2: he talked about his influen and says back at his
Speaker 2: introduction press conference in the middle of February.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a couple. The first one is Romeo Crenell. Right,
Speaker 1: he is a guy that obviously was He was very
Speaker 1: detailed in terms of techniques and fundamentals and what he
Speaker 1: expected from the guys, but more importantly off the field,
Speaker 1: like he was extremely calm in the chaos. Right, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs throughout the NFL season.
Speaker 1: Do you have some guys that ride the roller coaster?
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I think when you do that,
Speaker 1: your players are going to react the same way. So
Speaker 1: I tried very much to be the same guy every
Speaker 1: single day, and I really don't have to try. It's
Speaker 1: truly just who I am, right, and then just constantly
Speaker 1: making sure we're trying to get one percent better, which
Speaker 1: requires one hundred percent effort every day. But I think
Speaker 1: as long as you're on that constant chase to get better,
Speaker 1: eventually you'll get to where you.
Speaker 2: Want to go.
Speaker 1: But my first is Romeo Crenell. The second one has
Speaker 1: to be John Harbaugh. Right in my short three years
Speaker 1: with him, I just saw how he walked and operated
Speaker 1: and constantly kept the pulse of the team, and when
Speaker 1: he got up and addressed the team, he always had
Speaker 1: something particular in mine and was very direct right in
Speaker 1: what he was trying to get done. And I have
Speaker 1: so much respect for how he walks and operates. Was
Speaker 1: much different than any coach I'd been around prior, and
Speaker 1: really confirmed what I was doing to myself because I
Speaker 1: was like, this is how I envisioned myself operating, and
Speaker 1: obviously it works and you can have success doing it.
Speaker 2: And Romeo Crenell has several of his own influences, but
Speaker 2: I do know there's a common thread of multiple packages,
Speaker 2: of plenty of sub packages that include five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: even eight defensive backs on the field, simulated pressure looks
Speaker 2: with multiple blitz candidates to confuse the quarterback and the
Speaker 2: production protection not production mugging rushers up in the A gap,
Speaker 2: which is basically bringing linebackers to stand up over the
Speaker 2: center and guard to kind of simulate pressure in those gaps,
Speaker 2: using big bodies for your end positions like heavy tackle ends.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of principles and I think track with
Speaker 2: the moves you've seen in this offseason. So without further ado,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and get to the room that Weaver
Speaker 2: came from upfront, a defensive lineman himself, and a coach
Speaker 2: in that position group in particular, the big boys on
Speaker 2: the interior led by our star defensive tackle. That's what
Speaker 2: he is, Zach Seeler. So the cast in this room Sealer,
Speaker 2: Tart Galimore, Deshan Hann, Benito Jones, Jonathan Harris, Isaiah Max,
Speaker 2: Davion Nixon, Brandon Peeley, and Leonard Payne is the UDFA.
Speaker 2: The coaches in that room are Austin Clark and his
Speaker 2: assistant is new this year. Kinji Cotton departures, Wilkins is gone,
Speaker 2: Davis is gone, Justin Ellis and Byron Cowart are all gone.
Speaker 2: The arrivals are the guys we just talked about, Tart, Galimore, Harris, Bonito, Mack, Nixon,
Speaker 2: and Payne. It's a lot of new names in there
Speaker 2: right this room. At a glance, look, Sealer is the
Speaker 2: straw that stirs the drink here? How good has this
Speaker 2: guy been? Matt? Maybe he's talked about more in circles
Speaker 2: that I don't see, But did anybody have a quieter
Speaker 2: double digit sax season last year? Do you guys know
Speaker 2: who the defensive tackles are that had templus sacks last season?
Speaker 2: Justin Matdabuicke who just got a hundred million bucks. Chris
Speaker 2: Jones is the best defensive tackle in the NFL. And
Speaker 2: Zach Sealler that's it, baby. And how about eight hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty six snaps in twenty twenty three and seventy
Speaker 2: seven snaps in twenty twenty two, good for seventy eight
Speaker 2: and seventy seven percent of your overall workload. So you
Speaker 2: have that, but how do you build around it? Well,
Speaker 2: he's going to beat any one on one block you
Speaker 2: put in front of him. His length allows him to
Speaker 2: hold the point, read disengage in two gap. But he's
Speaker 2: also got the brute power and surge to really hold
Speaker 2: his own and penetrate as a one gapper and control
Speaker 2: things that way. But I think the best part of
Speaker 2: him is all the selfless, selfless work that he does
Speaker 2: creating chances for others in this defense. Watch Christian Wilkins
Speaker 2: a sack real four of the nine that he had
Speaker 2: are on games, rush games, twists and stunts and slants,
Speaker 2: and three of those four are him looping off the
Speaker 2: work of Zach Seeler. So when I look at how
Speaker 2: we can get similar pressure, I think about Tierre Tart
Speaker 2: and his explosiveness from that three technique or even the
Speaker 2: one technique inside. I think about Neville Gallimore going back
Speaker 2: to the three tech he played at Oklahoma and how
Speaker 2: much better he was there and how quick he was
Speaker 2: getting off the football compared to being a nose tackle
Speaker 2: at three hundred pounds who didn't play that way in Dallas.
Speaker 2: So I think there's a good reason to believe you can.
Speaker 2: It will generate the pressure inside with the absence of
Speaker 2: Wilkins by really empowering Sealer and recreating Wilkins's skills in
Speaker 2: the aggregate. Now watching that tape back, it's you're not
Speaker 2: gonna replace Wilkins. He was so freaking good man, But
Speaker 2: gotta find a way to do it because you got
Speaker 2: better in other parts of your football team. You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to find ways to get these guys up to part.
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of Moneyball in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. I keep saying, recreate him in the aggregate.
Speaker 2: But what Moneyball doesn't mention when they tell you about
Speaker 2: Jeremy Giambi or Scott Hadiberg or Chad Bradford, is that,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they had three cy youngs on their rotation
Speaker 2: with Tim Mudson, Mark Tim Hudson, Mark Molder and Barry Zito.
Speaker 2: And they also had the MVP in Miguel Toohatta. And
Speaker 2: they also had the best third basement of the league
Speaker 2: in what was his first name, Eric Chavez. Like that's
Speaker 2: the part of Moneyball no one seems to remember. But
Speaker 2: that's the Dolphins right now. And what we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about here at the end of the show as
Speaker 2: I break down my position, my color coordinated depth chart
Speaker 2: that I have for you guys, and maybe we'll do
Speaker 2: it if it's three man prediction. I'm not sure that
Speaker 2: it seems early for that. But anyway, back on point
Speaker 2: here to the point about koreating that recreate and the aggregate.
Speaker 2: I love Tart as a nose tackle and Benito Jones
Speaker 2: is the only guy that weighs three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: plus pounds on the roster. But I just I don't
Speaker 2: see it. I don't see it in the game there.
Speaker 2: They both have had some success, Benito, It's like zero
Speaker 2: technique better be a running play right here, otherwise you're
Speaker 2: not going to get much production there. But I'm curious
Speaker 2: to see what Jonathan Harris's role is. I think he's
Speaker 2: also a best suited for the three technique that's kind
Speaker 2: of on the Broncos tape as a limited role there.
Speaker 2: I think DeShawn Hand is kind of the underrated piece here,
Speaker 2: but he was really good last year and I think
Speaker 2: earned more reps this season despite not getting a lot
Speaker 2: of playing time last year. And again, as long as
Speaker 2: Zach is doing what he does, we're going to be
Speaker 2: just fine. But again, I don't think that the nose
Speaker 2: tackle spot is is kind of my concern, which is
Speaker 2: obviously where the question is there on this team or
Speaker 2: on this position group, which gets us into the questions
Speaker 2: portion of the interior defensive line. First, obviously, you know Zach.
Speaker 2: You say, if Zach is there will be just fine.
Speaker 2: What if he's not there? What if something happens to Zach.
Speaker 2: It's a fair question. Grant he hasn't missed a game
Speaker 2: as a Dolphin in four plus years, and I would
Speaker 2: also assert the same question exists in the last two years,
Speaker 2: especially last year, when we had no depth beyond Christian Zach,
Speaker 2: Raikwan and Deshaan Hann, like there was nobody else that
Speaker 2: could play those roles. I think next, who's the backup
Speaker 2: to Benito and run stuffing situations? I don't even like
Speaker 2: the start of there, So that's kind of a tough
Speaker 2: one for me. That's kind of the one spot of
Speaker 2: the football team, the nose tackle that I just don't
Speaker 2: I fly out, don't like who's gonna be the zero
Speaker 2: tech baarfront, heavy front. Look, I just don't know who
Speaker 2: the resolution is there. He's the only one on the
Speaker 2: roster of that size. But I'm curious if it's something
Speaker 2: that also tr Tarkann because he did do it for
Speaker 2: the Titans. He's just a little bit undersized. But I
Speaker 2: just don't think we're big enough at nose tackle. The
Speaker 2: camp battles here seems safe to assume a lot of
Speaker 2: playing time is up for grabs. You've got to replaced
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty snaps from last year, right, and
Speaker 2: I do like the idea of breaking it down piece
Speaker 2: by piece. To me, Tart gets the first crack of
Speaker 2: the biggest chunk of those reps just because of how
Speaker 2: I think his skill set translates here. But between he, Benito,
Speaker 2: Deshaan Hann, Neville, Harris, all the new who earns time
Speaker 2: there one of the most intriguing groups to watch during
Speaker 2: this entire training camp for your Miami Dolphins. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and mark our first break rate there. Come back
Speaker 2: on the other side, do the edge off ball, linebackers, corners,
Speaker 2: and safeties. And we're also going to do my entire
Speaker 2: roster evaluation based upon how I stack up each player
Speaker 2: against the rest of the league. That's next Draft Time Podcast,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation,
Speaker 2: segment two of a Monday, Busy Monday show. Here of
Speaker 2: the Draft Time Podcast breaking down the Dolphins defense, taking
Speaker 2: a look at the entire roster post draft, and we
Speaker 2: pick it back up here off the Edge, where the
Speaker 2: cast of players is Chubb Phillips, Barrett Good, Quentin Bell,
Speaker 2: Chop Robinson, Mohammed Kamara, Cam Brown, and Grayson Murphy are
Speaker 2: the udfas here. The coach is Ryan Crow, which he
Speaker 2: has already gained plenty of latitude in that room, in
Speaker 2: that building, because he is very very well thought of.
Speaker 2: Your departures are Andrew Van Ginkel. That's the one I
Speaker 2: cry for. That's the only one that I'm really super
Speaker 2: sad about. Besides really besides Christian Wilkins on the entire defense,
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Agba, Melvin Ingram, Malik Reid, Justin Houston, and Bruce Irvin,
Speaker 2: who hopefully can go have their party in the Casey
Speaker 2: locker room after a playoff loss. Arrivals Barrett chop Kamara
Speaker 2: and the udfas Brown and Murphy. I feel very convicted
Speaker 2: as the rum at a glance here in the thought
Speaker 2: that this is the best edge group in the NFL
Speaker 2: when everybody is healthy, so by no later than Halloween,
Speaker 2: maybe earlier. We don't have definitive timelines, but I do know.
Speaker 2: I'm watching JP and Bradley Chubb rehab and work out
Speaker 2: every day during these practices, and they look great. Man,
Speaker 2: they look they You wouldn't be able to tell they
Speaker 2: were coming off season ending injuries and major surgery. But
Speaker 2: we'll find out how that works. I still think I
Speaker 2: think Chubb maybe a little bit later into the year,
Speaker 2: but not that far. I think JP probably starts reopening.
Speaker 2: That's my guess. I raved about this all last training
Speaker 2: camp with these two guys. How good of a job
Speaker 2: they did collectively in Chubb and Phillips defending the edge
Speaker 2: of a running game that gets to that spot as
Speaker 2: well as any team, any offense in the National Football League,
Speaker 2: and how they also could do that while being very
Speaker 2: effective rushers of the quarterback. Frankly, I wouldn't take another
Speaker 2: tandem over them. Give me Garrett whoever you want, give
Speaker 2: me what whoever you want. Give me Chubb and Phillips
Speaker 2: over all those guys, freaky athletes who are massively large
Speaker 2: human beings that can play three downs, can play seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty snaps for you, can play with speed
Speaker 2: and power, can condense inside, and in case you forgot,
Speaker 2: they're twenty five and twenty seven years old. Man, we
Speaker 2: are lucky in this group. And then you get Shaq Barrett,
Speaker 2: who is the best human I've met I think in football.
Speaker 2: I met him once and he blew me away in
Speaker 2: his first season off an achilles injury. Last year, he
Speaker 2: just got better and got stronger that you went along.
Speaker 2: I think there's still plenty left from the tank for
Speaker 2: this dude, who I think is on balance right now
Speaker 2: a better player than Van Ginkle. Go ahead and see that.
Speaker 2: I like both of them, but I think Shaq Barrett's
Speaker 2: a better player right now, especially as a rusher, and
Speaker 2: whether it's full time or spelling the guys coming back
Speaker 2: from the injury early on, I think there's a role
Speaker 2: here that's akin to Ginks as like kind of that
Speaker 2: third guy in the room. But then it's the development
Speaker 2: of the rookies that could really take this group to
Speaker 2: that next level. I legit think could argue that Chopp
Speaker 2: was the best scheme fit of the entire first round
Speaker 2: of the draft. Just wait until you see him mug
Speaker 2: up in the A gap for the first time this
Speaker 2: season and put utter stress on some poor, unassuming center
Speaker 2: and just like that. I thought it was a concern
Speaker 2: of depth at defensive tackle last year. Same here in
Speaker 2: that we only really had Cam Good as a young
Speaker 2: developmental type at the edge. Group. Enter Mo Kamara, who
Speaker 2: I'm stoked about what he offers. We're deep, we have rushers,
Speaker 2: we have size, we have length, athleticism one of the
Speaker 2: best rooms in the entire National Football League from money,
Speaker 2: the questions here, the only question is when these guys
Speaker 2: are all on the field one hundred percent. I think
Speaker 2: any other questions are those concerned with frivolous luxuries, elite
Speaker 2: elite group here in Miami. The position battles playing time
Speaker 2: in that third role when everyone's healthy. Is it going
Speaker 2: to be Barrett? Is it going to be Chopped? Can
Speaker 2: Chop push Stack? Can Moe push both of them? Can
Speaker 2: Cam Good get back in there from his pre injury
Speaker 2: form and continue his development? These are good battles, and
Speaker 2: I think the lack of analysis in the questions and
Speaker 2: battles portion just tells you how good side of the
Speaker 2: football is. Off ball linebackers. The cast here Jordan Brooks,
Speaker 2: David Long Junior, Anthony Walker Junior, Duke Riley, Channing Tyndall,
Speaker 2: and Zeke Vandenberg. Your coach is Joe Berry. He's also
Speaker 2: the run game coordinator. Your departures here are Jerome Baker,
Speaker 2: Calvin Munson, and AJ Johnson, while your arrivals are Brooks
Speaker 2: and Walker Junior. The room at a glance, it's been
Speaker 2: completely remade from what it was two years ago. David
Speaker 2: Long was the best in the group last year for
Speaker 2: my money, and I think they only continues to get
Speaker 2: better with more time here, albeit in a different scheme
Speaker 2: and the translatable thing for him to me though, and
Speaker 2: what Jordan Brooks also brings is the ability to play
Speaker 2: the run from light boxes, a principle of the Fangio
Speaker 2: scheme that has really infiltrated the entire NFL. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna play dB heavy packages, you have to
Speaker 2: have quick linebackers who can process and get vertical and
Speaker 2: get to the perimeter. That's Brooks, that's long. And if
Speaker 2: you're going to simulate pressures and make everyone a blitz target,
Speaker 2: a blitz candidate, well a few players get downhill better
Speaker 2: than those two guys do. Brooks I think is the
Speaker 2: best cover backer in the business outside of Fred Warner.
Speaker 2: I'd definitely give it to Fred Warner, but anybody else,
Speaker 2: it's a very short list. His ability to get vertical
Speaker 2: and take away that eighteen yard hook throw changes the
Speaker 2: way offenses have to play against you now. Walker brings
Speaker 2: a little more sizzle to his game, something more of
Speaker 2: an e rob type of player in the way that
Speaker 2: he bangs between the b gaps, but there's a little
Speaker 2: more buzz and a lot more speed there with him.
Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance that that's your three
Speaker 2: backer base look when you go that way, but you
Speaker 2: do that like literally two percent of the plays in
Speaker 2: the season. But I don't think we've had a better one, two,
Speaker 2: three off ball linebacker in Miami since fifty four was here.
Speaker 2: And that's not really even counting, you know, like Marlon Greenwood.
Speaker 2: It's just because Zach was here. They were so good.
Speaker 2: Some questions I have, I mean, what could you possibly
Speaker 2: have here? You've got two guys who can and have
Speaker 2: played seven hundred plus snaps, who can cover, who can blitz,
Speaker 2: who can play the run game, You've got depth, You've
Speaker 2: got special teams. It's a loaded room. The question I
Speaker 2: do have is can Channing Tendall play football? I mean,
Speaker 2: he was drafted as a four hundred snap guy in
Speaker 2: college and it just hasn't worked for him so far.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's a question because it kind of
Speaker 2: feels like we already have the answer there off of
Speaker 2: a red shirt rookie season where he played a couple
Speaker 2: of snaps in one game and never saw the field. Again,
Speaker 2: then another coach who I didn't care for, but he
Speaker 2: also said nope on changing Tendall, and then an aw
Speaker 2: season that saw two big signings. I think they're writing
Speaker 2: probably on the wall there for your was he fourth
Speaker 2: round pick or third round pick a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2: The battles here. Copy and paste the edge portion. I
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about what this will look like in
Speaker 2: terms of pecking order, but you also get surprises all
Speaker 2: the time, so don't write down in pen But I
Speaker 2: just think this is one of the most well balanced
Speaker 2: rooms on the team. Does not leave a ton open
Speaker 2: to interpretation. Let's go ahead and do cornerbacks here. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm clicking the mouse and trying to figure out my
Speaker 2: spot on the rundown before our last break. So the
Speaker 2: cast at cornerback is Ramsey Fuller, Coohu Needham Smith, Neil
Speaker 2: Bonner your udfas or Storm Duck great name, by the way,
Speaker 2: and Isaiah Johnson. Your coaches. Matthew Rougo is a cornerbacks coach,
Speaker 2: pass game coordinator Brian Duker. Departures in the room are
Speaker 2: Xavier Howard, Justin Bethel, Keon Crossen, and Perry Nickerson. And
Speaker 2: the arrivals are Kendall, Fuller, Saran Neil, and then the
Speaker 2: UDFA is Duck and Johnson, Storm Duca Johnson. It's like
Speaker 2: a long name. Never mind, So the room at a glance,
Speaker 2: imagine that another room with the Dolphins got better this offseason. First,
Speaker 2: please give me seventeen games of Jaylen Ramsey this year
Speaker 2: because things were just different with him. And please give
Speaker 2: me more matchups of Ramsey traveling. I mean, we saw
Speaker 2: what he did to Garrett Wilson no catches on twenty
Speaker 2: four man coverage reps in a game last year, with
Speaker 2: Ramsey taking him out of the game as a shadow. Weaver.
Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver has already talked about how it's doing yourself
Speaker 2: a disservice if you don't utilize Ramsey's versatility. And he's
Speaker 2: not just the best perimeter cornerback on the team, he's
Speaker 2: also the best slot cornerback on the team. He can blitz,
Speaker 2: he loves to come up and play the run. He
Speaker 2: could even be a big nickel. If you want to
Speaker 2: go with a Fuller and Smith Campsmith cornerback package that
Speaker 2: has Holland, Poyer and Ramsey as your three safeties, I
Speaker 2: just think this group is better all around, and a
Speaker 2: big part of that is the addition of Kendall Fuller,
Speaker 2: with obviously Ramsey's health because everything I said about Ramsey's
Speaker 2: versatility that also applies to Kendall Fuller. We can dictate
Speaker 2: matchups back there. I love the length of tackling the ball,
Speaker 2: skills and the depth. More on that in the battles here,
Speaker 2: because the questions is the next portion of this room.
Speaker 2: I keep seeing concern over Miami's defense and national outlets
Speaker 2: and just going over this all or I guess the
Speaker 2: needs they have. And frankly, the only position we don't
Speaker 2: really know about is like defensive tackle depth beyond like
Speaker 2: two or three, and then the safety depth because the
Speaker 2: edge and their health is a concern. I get that,
Speaker 2: But what are the questions there besides health? What are
Speaker 2: the questions at off ball linebacker? What are your questions
Speaker 2: at cornerback? They don't exist. I don't have any. We
Speaker 2: have the best in the game, Like we have another
Speaker 2: top the best cornerback in the game, We have another
Speaker 2: top ten cornerback. I think Cam Smith can play, and
Speaker 2: I guess that's the one, Like do how does he play?
Speaker 2: Or how does cater Cooho bounce back? From a down
Speaker 2: second year after a great rookie year. Is Nick Needam
Speaker 2: ready to fully contribute? What about Ethan Bonner? I mean,
Speaker 2: my god, we have like six dudes here that I
Speaker 2: think can start on several teams in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: My battles I'm looking forward to. I think they found
Speaker 2: something in Ethan Bonner. I really do. But this might
Speaker 2: be one of the best battles of all the camp.
Speaker 2: Who earns the right to be the third cornerback they
Speaker 2: call upon beyond Ramsey and Fuller, And don't just think
Speaker 2: of it as who is best inside. Your third corner
Speaker 2: could be an exclusive perimeter player. Because of the versatility
Speaker 2: of Ramsey and Fuller. It creates a better your camp
Speaker 2: battle is more wide cast because of that. You don't
Speaker 2: have to pigeonhole these guys. So whether it's cam Cater,
Speaker 2: Needham or Bonner, I just love the options we have there.
Speaker 2: And then you have three guys that could step in
Speaker 2: and play it as backups in my opinion. Oh and
Speaker 2: real quick, if you can summack it, go watch the
Speaker 2: Week four game in Buffalo and watch all of our
Speaker 2: punt returns. There wasn't many of them that day, but
Speaker 2: go watch siran Neil blow up all those punt returns
Speaker 2: by himself. Just FYI, let's go ahead and take our
Speaker 2: last break right there. Come back on the other side,
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the safeties, and I'll tell you about
Speaker 2: how I evaluate the entire roster right now on May
Speaker 2: the sixth. That's next Drive Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 2: brought to you by Auto Nation. One more group to
Speaker 2: do here in our part two assessment of the roster,
Speaker 2: taking a look at the Dolphins post draft twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four entire breakdown here the safety group, the cast Javon Holland,
Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer, Elijah Campbell, Patrick McMorris and a couple of
Speaker 2: u DFAs and Mark Perry and Jordan Colbert. The coaches,
Speaker 2: dB and pass game specialist Ryan Slowick moves out from
Speaker 2: outside linebackers, and he has an assistant this year in
Speaker 2: DB's coach, DeShawn shed. The departures are Brandon Jones and
Speaker 2: to Shaun Elliott, and the arrivals are Jordan Poyer and
Speaker 2: a couple of udfas and Colbert and Perry. This whole
Speaker 2: thing is built around another player who reminds me of
Speaker 2: Ramsey and fuller in Javon Holland. Yes, his injury was
Speaker 2: kind of devastating to the Dolphins defense down the stretch,
Speaker 2: but we need his versatility and I hope we see
Speaker 2: more of that big nickel shrew slot blitz, play down
Speaker 2: in the box, go for and edge a jet sweep.
Speaker 2: But his best role to me is reading from the
Speaker 2: post imo in my opinion. But I don't want to
Speaker 2: pigeonhole him there either. I think that him and Poyer
Speaker 2: together and how they see the field together is the
Speaker 2: best part of the And if player's got some more
Speaker 2: juice in the tank, they are going to confuse some
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and take the football away. But there's questions back
Speaker 2: here right now. Do we have a proven third here?
Speaker 2: We don't. I mean, every other spot has proven starters,
Speaker 2: proven depth, and just a laundry list of guys you
Speaker 2: feel good about. Besides here a defensive tackle, but we
Speaker 2: don't have it here. We have seen Campbell be a
Speaker 2: dynamo on special teams with the occasional defensive rep. But
Speaker 2: then it's a rookie in McMorris who I didn't care
Speaker 2: for his college state. Beyond special teams, you get the
Speaker 2: sense this could be a spot they're not done with.
Speaker 2: And how given how active Chris career is every summer,
Speaker 2: every cutdown day, there's going to be someone else out
Speaker 2: of here. There's no way they go into here with
Speaker 2: this collection of players here, but the camp battles. I
Speaker 2: just don't think we're done here. So it's a little
Speaker 2: bit of bad faith. But right now it's Campbell and
Speaker 2: McMorris for third safety duties. I mean that right there
Speaker 2: tells you you probably have more work to do in
Speaker 2: the room. So there you go. The defensive assistance. We
Speaker 2: didn't mention as a particular position group Matthew O'Donnell and
Speaker 2: Sean Ryan. And then on special teams it's the same
Speaker 2: across the board, Blake, Jason and Jake. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but it is. And then coach cross spend a Ronnie
Speaker 2: Bradford a new assistant in the room there as well.
Speaker 2: All right, I teased it for you guys off the top,
Speaker 2: the roster assessment. Remember the old white board. New fans
Speaker 2: don't recall this, but locked on Dolphins, I just have
Speaker 2: an image of the whiteboard that got updated all the time.
Speaker 2: I would stack the roster in terms of where I
Speaker 2: view these players in terms of their league wide rank.
Speaker 2: So here's how I grade players. It's the same as
Speaker 2: it's always been. So blue is your blue chip, right
Speaker 2: your elite, your top fives at the position, the most
Speaker 2: dominant players in the game. That's the number one spot
Speaker 2: you want to be. Your second quality player tier is
Speaker 2: pro bowl plus starter, top ten, fringe type of guy
Speaker 2: like right in that range on the precipice of being
Speaker 2: an elite player but not quite there yet. That's a
Speaker 2: green player. And then orange is a quality starter above
Speaker 2: replacement level, a guy that you feel good about it
Speaker 2: if he's in your lineup as long as you have
Speaker 2: some greens and blues around him. And then the black mark,
Speaker 2: the black indication is replacement level, progress stopper, just kind
Speaker 2: of a guy who's there. A good example of a
Speaker 2: black player is Durham Smith likes he's right around the
Speaker 2: Mendoza line, if you will. Purple is developmental or special teams,
Speaker 2: like if fallows one of one of those two categories,
Speaker 2: which basically means I think you're either just a special
Speaker 2: teamer or there's some hope in terms of your development. There.
Speaker 2: We'll have to differentiate those as we go through the
Speaker 2: list here and then red is you haven't played it
Speaker 2: at all in the National Football League, you're a UDFA,
Speaker 2: or I just think you flat out can't play. Let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and do these all here real quick. At quarterback,
Speaker 2: we have four guys. I have two as the green category,
Speaker 2: the second one the plus starter, pro Bowl, top ten
Speaker 2: type of guy, and then White is in the replacement
Speaker 2: level progressed oopper or just kind of there. And then
Speaker 2: I have two red players I don't believe they can
Speaker 2: play or UDFA with Skyler and the UDFA harders in it.
Speaker 2: Running back, I have a Chan as a blue chip player.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be that guy for us this year.
Speaker 2: I think he's Chris Johnson two point zero hereheem mostert
Speaker 2: to me is a green, a pro bowler, a top
Speaker 2: ten guy. And then I put Jillan Wright as an
Speaker 2: orange player. The third the third demarcation here, which is
Speaker 2: one of the three good ones you want to be.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be that good this year, but
Speaker 2: I'm I think has every opportunity to climb up to
Speaker 2: the green category. And then I put both Brooks and
Speaker 2: ac in that replacement level kind of just their type
Speaker 2: of category. And then I put Jeff Wilson as red.
Speaker 2: I like Jeff Wilson, but I don't think he's a
Speaker 2: fit here for what we want to do in terms
Speaker 2: of all the speed he has in front of him.
Speaker 2: And then at fullback Ingold to me's a green player
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl Plus Starter, Top ten whatever. That's kind of
Speaker 2: different for fullbacks, but to me, he's in the green category.
Speaker 2: At receiver, Riek is blue, Blue, Chipper Wattles green Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl Plus Starter Top ten guy. And then I have
Speaker 2: Beckham and Malik Washington is Orange players. I just think
Speaker 2: you're both really going to be valuable, valuable fits here.
Speaker 2: And then the next couple of guys I'm not sure on,
Speaker 2: but I put black replacement level of progress starter starter
Speaker 2: just there on Azukama, Taj Washington, and River Craycraft. We'll
Speaker 2: find out how that plays out. And then I put
Speaker 2: special teams on Barrios, and then red categories for the
Speaker 2: other four guys Sanders, Schwartz, Sexon, and Burton. At tight end.
Speaker 2: I have John hu and Fortson as Orange quality starter
Speaker 2: above replacement level players. We've got Durham Smyth as the
Speaker 2: black category. Purple is going to be sorry, I'm getting
Speaker 2: text right now, my purple tight end is Julian Hill.
Speaker 2: I think he's developmental still, and then I have Con
Speaker 2: and Roochie. The UDFA is red. We'll find out about
Speaker 2: those guys. At tackle, I have both Armstead and Jackson
Speaker 2: as that green category the Pro Bowl top ten level,
Speaker 2: and yes, Austin Jackson was a top ten right tackle
Speaker 2: for me my money last year. Kendall Lamb is orange.
Speaker 2: I think he's a quality starter above replacement level, and
Speaker 2: then purple is both Keon Smith and Patrick Paul who
Speaker 2: I have as full developmental guys still at the stage
Speaker 2: of their career, and then red as Hayes and Mattos.
Speaker 2: Will find out about those guys no playing time so far.
Speaker 2: Interior offensive line, Brewer and Winner both orange, which that's
Speaker 2: for the roster concerns here, right you have two orange
Speaker 2: and then three black for me replacement level just kind
Speaker 2: of there. That's Eikenberg, Rob Jones, and Jack Driscoll, and
Speaker 2: then I have Lester Cotton is also in that category
Speaker 2: with Chasen Hines and the two udfas Jones and Mayer
Speaker 2: as red. On the interior defensive line, Steeler is green.
Speaker 2: I could push him into blue with another year, just
Speaker 2: like last year, but there's a lot of good defensive
Speaker 2: tackles in the league, so I won't go that far.
Speaker 2: Tart is orange that third category, and then I have
Speaker 2: four guys in the Black category replacement level hand Gallimore, Harris,
Speaker 2: and Benito, with Peelee, Nicks in Mac, and pain all
Speaker 2: in the Red category. Off the edge. Phillips is a
Speaker 2: blue chip player for me. I thought he was there
Speaker 2: last year when he got hurt. I think he'll get
Speaker 2: there once he gets back. I have Chubb just beyond
Speaker 2: that in the Green category, right behind Chubb in that
Speaker 2: pecking order, and then I have Shaq and Chop both
Speaker 2: in the orange categories. We have four guys here from
Speaker 2: me here in the top three categories where you want
Speaker 2: to be, and then I have Kamara and Good in
Speaker 2: the purple categories, with Bell and Murphy as the red categories.
Speaker 2: Inside linebackers, I have Brooks and Long in the in
Speaker 2: the green category Pro Bowl level caliber players top ten
Speaker 2: players their position plus starters, and then in the black
Speaker 2: categories Anthony Walker Junior, Developmental slash special teams which for
Speaker 2: rally special teams. That's where Duke Riley falls, and then
Speaker 2: Tyndall and Vandenberg in the red category. At cornerback, I've
Speaker 2: got Ramsey and Fuller as the elite top five at
Speaker 2: their position player. I think they're both so dang good.
Speaker 2: I have cam Cater, Needham, and Bonner all in the
Speaker 2: orange category, although I expect one of those four to
Speaker 2: elevate into the green category. So I have two blue
Speaker 2: chippers and I think I'm gonna get a green guy
Speaker 2: by the end of the end of the year. Like
Speaker 2: cornerback room is loaded. Then I have Neil's a purple
Speaker 2: special teamer, and then the two udfhas are red. That's
Speaker 2: what they're always going to be for me heading into
Speaker 2: the year. Holland is green, not quite a blue chip yet.
Speaker 2: Poyer is orange, just hanging onto that before he goes
Speaker 2: back to black if another down year this year. And
Speaker 2: then two developmental slash special teamers in Campbell and mc morris,
Speaker 2: and the two udfas excuse me, Colbert and Perry are
Speaker 2: both red. So the breakdown of the roster is this,
Speaker 2: I have five blue chip players in the roster, eight Chan, Reek, Phillips, Ramsey,
Speaker 2: and Fuller. I have eleven green players to Moster Ingold Wattle, Armstead, Jackson, Seler, Chubb, Brooks,
Speaker 2: Long Holland This rosters loaded, guys, Orange. I have sixteen guys,
Speaker 2: so that gives you thirty two players that are quality
Speaker 2: starters or better. Five are top five of their position,
Speaker 2: and eleven more guys are top ten. Yeah, the window
Speaker 2: is closed black Monday, YadA YadA yah. I've got sixteen
Speaker 2: players in the black category, ten Purple players and twenty
Speaker 2: six red players. So there you go. We're gonna come
Speaker 2: back on Wednesday. I might have mister Odell Beckham with
Speaker 2: me on the podcast. We'll find out about that, and
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