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Speaker 1: Breakfast Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye shol I
Speaker 1: mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club special guests
Speaker 1: had as morning. He's back, He's back, Kanye West was.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna happen. I bet Kanye's
Speaker 1: not gonna come back up here after there was a rap.
Speaker 1: Now I'm definitely I'm coming back every time. Let me
Speaker 1: start with some positivity. Man, I think only one in
Speaker 1: Wolves and Dope records. Oh wow, I think they're really
Speaker 1: dope tuns. Yeah wow, this darting way different than class.
Speaker 1: But I don't like seconds And next, why did you
Speaker 1: do that? I do like four or five seconds ago
Speaker 1: that I don't when you sing, but I like four
Speaker 1: or five. I don't like all the tune either, but
Speaker 1: I need it really why? I mean, how you people
Speaker 1: say that widdle? Because I could do I can like
Speaker 1: bend my voice in other ways, like at the end
Speaker 1: of Runaway and everything I like to do. That got you? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And thank you for inviting me to the fashion show
Speaker 1: as well. Oh yeah, it was a setup. And thought
Speaker 1: it was a setup. He s he's gonna get beat
Speaker 1: up in there. It's gonna be a he's gonna get jumped.
Speaker 1: But well it wasn't. I felt like it was only
Speaker 1: right you came, you came here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He threw all the slander, So why I wouldn't not
Speaker 1: come to the fashion show? Yeah? Yeah, but you put
Speaker 1: him next to Drake, which was kind of put me
Speaker 1: next be back there kind of. All. Now, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the first uh your shoes to just release. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard y'all don't like those, No, not y'all. I
Speaker 1: said that I actually have a pair of shoes that
Speaker 1: looked like similar to them, and I like that. That's
Speaker 1: not a good thing when a girl has shoes that
Speaker 1: look like men's shoes. But I like the Black Colorway great,
Speaker 1: the Great Colorway. When I first saw it looked like
Speaker 1: a paper in machade project. But the Black Ones tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're coming with the Black Ones real soon. But that
Speaker 1: is a big accomplishment for you. You You put that out
Speaker 1: limited run first, right, sold out, and now people are
Speaker 1: buying them online for over fifteen hundred for Yeah, I see,
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't want them to be limited. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's something that the company did I really want as
Speaker 1: many people to get them as possible, you know, I
Speaker 1: really don't. I don't want the price to be three fifty.
Speaker 1: I don't want to play this like sneaker culture game
Speaker 1: and all this, so they'd be reselling them for high
Speaker 1: prices and stuff. I just want people just have what
Speaker 1: I made, like you know, you know, limited release or
Speaker 1: the college dropout, you know, a limited release to graduation,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think in clothing right now, it's
Speaker 1: a real it's a real separatism, you know, Like it's
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars sweatshirts and everybody spending that money and
Speaker 1: trying to show up in the club and act like
Speaker 1: they you know what I'm saying, Like, it's like we
Speaker 1: need to spend that money on our families and stuff
Speaker 1: we need. So my my point of what I'm doing
Speaker 1: in clothing right now, as I'm going and taking the talent,
Speaker 1: Like I just came from the Ralph Show and I
Speaker 1: was talking to Ralph and I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: need your help, you know, because you know how to
Speaker 1: make clothes, and I know, I think I know what
Speaker 1: you know my generation wants, but it's very difficult, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't have that production and that experience like
Speaker 1: with Ralph Has and it's really difficult to get those
Speaker 1: price points like the z on h and price points
Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't get the factories, if
Speaker 1: you don't get the boats and stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 1: talked about this before because it's hard to I have
Speaker 1: no idea. They just priced that. I think I think
Speaker 1: that they just you know what, I think their logic was.
Speaker 1: They didn't want it to go from the other company
Speaker 1: and go to a datas and they'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: why they drop? Yeah, because sometimes the public won't always
Speaker 1: understand the transition, you know, like Steve Jobs always had
Speaker 1: the iPad in his head, but he couldn't do it
Speaker 1: the next coming from a keyboard and floppy this to
Speaker 1: the iPad. You know, you had to walk people into this.
Speaker 1: I think the whole I did with with you go
Speaker 1: into a dadas is you have more control, and it
Speaker 1: was you you could do everything. Yeah. I do have
Speaker 1: a lot more. At least I could do something, you know,
Speaker 1: But any relationship that starts off, you ain't gonna have
Speaker 1: all the control. You know what I'm saying. It's a marriage.
Speaker 1: Usually the first year of any situation is the toughest.
Speaker 1: And then when you guys start to communicate, you know,
Speaker 1: it could be like it could be powerful. And explain
Speaker 1: the stake a little bit because I'm a sneak ahead
Speaker 1: tons of sneakers, and I assumed it to be like,
Speaker 1: I don't like to compare, but the other sneakers that
Speaker 1: you were released, they were leather, they were more of
Speaker 1: a sneaker sneaker like you could bail out in the
Speaker 1: other sneakers. This one, I don't think I could play basketball.
Speaker 1: You actually could play basketball. And this one better than
Speaker 1: the other ones. It's been Yeah, because the first of all,
Speaker 1: I've got Boost, which is the best technology. And I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying that contractually with Adidas. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: that after someone who goes to the gym and if
Speaker 1: I wear like my you know, Boost, actually I feel
Speaker 1: better because I have problems with the back of my
Speaker 1: achy least from performing so much. And then actually I
Speaker 1: did say fat girls with cankles look it looked like
Speaker 1: it'd be comfortable for them. Yeah, I mean, I'm working,
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. People joke that they look sort
Speaker 1: of like the ugs, right, but what's so bucked out?
Speaker 1: Is I'm really working on trying to make a sexier
Speaker 1: UG because you see ugs all the time. I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and I see you know, I see stuff from
Speaker 1: the future, and I'm always like, I'm such a like
Speaker 1: a futurist that I had to like slow down and
Speaker 1: talk in the present, you know. And this was a
Speaker 1: proposition to where I think shoes will go. I think
Speaker 1: the color Palace, all this, the red over here in
Speaker 1: the thirty different Colors way in the Black History Month
Speaker 1: version and all that, I think that's gonna be, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be out of there in the future. This is
Speaker 1: for me, as you know, humbly I would say I'm
Speaker 1: the most influential person in footwear right now, there's no
Speaker 1: way to humbly say that truth will I say? Truthfully, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm the most influential person in footwear. So when it well,
Speaker 1: those are rereleases, but when it comes to new sneaks,
Speaker 1: I think he is absolutely Now how hard is it
Speaker 1: to get that balance between wanting to get something that
Speaker 1: people can afford, but then also wanting to use those
Speaker 1: materials and make things really special, you know, things that
Speaker 1: make you more creative. Yeah, those materials is all a
Speaker 1: game that the factories played too. You know if silks
Speaker 1: in style, silk is more expensive from the factories, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you can get everything for a better price.
Speaker 1: It's all in like how you you know, how you
Speaker 1: negotiate h with the factories and uh, you know, my
Speaker 1: end goal ten years so now will be to have
Speaker 1: everything at a Zara level, like I think Steve made
Speaker 1: it with phones wasn't a show of class anymore. You know,
Speaker 1: you had the Virtue phone. You bust a four thousand
Speaker 1: dollar phone. You felt like you was better than somebody.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand this talk at all. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah with the phone, I'm talking about the Virtuo phones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not that clear speaker. You know, I had this
Speaker 1: car accident and everything, and it's just uh, ever since then,
Speaker 1: I've been like a mumble mouth. So but what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, you know, right now, people will try to
Speaker 1: put on a jacket to try to act like they
Speaker 1: better than you, you know, And I think this idea
Speaker 1: of being better than the next man is just it's
Speaker 1: the wrong mentality in first place, Like we were, you know,
Speaker 1: we were born into a broken world that's been separated
Speaker 1: by race, religion in class, you know, but you confuse
Speaker 1: you when you say stuff like that though, because you
Speaker 1: do act like you're better than people. Sometimes. No, like
Speaker 1: the Grammars is a great example when you end up
Speaker 1: and you tell everybody to respect the artistry, but it's
Speaker 1: like you're not respecting the art. Yeah, into yeah, and
Speaker 1: I deserved it. Man. That was completely be hypocritical. And
Speaker 1: you know I was the other I'm go ahead, you know,
Speaker 1: tell y'all, like the other day, like I went to
Speaker 1: dinner and sat down with Taylor Swift right and ironically
Speaker 1: they were like playing the Beck album and I and
Speaker 1: romantically or you think they did that. No, maybe they
Speaker 1: did it on purpose so I could finally hear if
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, man, so you hadn't even
Speaker 1: heard it when you did the game. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is like kind of good heard the album when
Speaker 1: he did? Nah, I hadn't even heard it many out
Speaker 1: here in the album. That's not true. What did I say?
Speaker 1: I'll say I can't even say if Beck didn't deserve
Speaker 1: it because I didn't hear it. And that was an
Speaker 1: argument that we had because I was like, well, Kanye
Speaker 1: might not even know a lot of people didn't have
Speaker 1: never heard back, and I said, I never heard it,
Speaker 1: so but people were saying, no, I'm sure he heard it.
Speaker 1: He had to have heard it to say that. You
Speaker 1: know what, I bet you that album is really good.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm gonna listen to the album. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was potentially an Album of the Year. But the
Speaker 1: Grammys are still have a commercial component to it, and
Speaker 1: they want to sell commercials, you know, so if they
Speaker 1: have you know, these big superstars sitting in the audience
Speaker 1: and advertise that they upcoming next performing, that's what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do to get those views. You don't you
Speaker 1: don't have these people sitting here and then you know,
Speaker 1: have them like their hearts beating and stuff. We work
Speaker 1: too hard to deal with all that and we ain't
Speaker 1: got no time for you know, be like losing in
Speaker 1: a situation where you because who's winning. We ain't getting
Speaker 1: none of the advertising money. You know, they don't play
Speaker 1: with us, you know, that's that's that's what my main
Speaker 1: point is. But why why do these big superstars go
Speaker 1: with the tolerated like people like yourself, You go, You're tolerated,
Speaker 1: but not celebrated, like when it comes to like the
Speaker 1: Soul Train Awards or BT Hip Hop Awards and BT Wars.
Speaker 1: You hear Kanye one, but Kanye is not here to
Speaker 1: accept that. That's why we need to support the people
Speaker 1: that support us and not just particularly just a black thing.
Speaker 1: We always say, you know, it's it's black show. That's
Speaker 1: just that. But you know, it just needs to be uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a wow. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a wow. I ain't got the answers of how to
Speaker 1: change the voting system. I ain't got the answers to,
Speaker 1: you know, how to make it where everyone is honored
Speaker 1: in the proper way. And sometimes maybe it's two people
Speaker 1: that should win. You know, who's to say who should win?
Speaker 1: But I think I think it'd be a class thing
Speaker 1: too because everybody people. You know, it carries more weight
Speaker 1: if you win a Grammy than if you want to
Speaker 1: bet award. So we still go, say, says society, and
Speaker 1: that's what this is about. This is this is why
Speaker 1: this is why I respect this show, because this is
Speaker 1: a voice to society. It is the voice I say,
Speaker 1: the barbershop, but this is the voice of the streets.
Speaker 1: And this is uh, you know, Grammys is uh it's
Speaker 1: a statement of class and stuff. Like you go to
Speaker 1: my house, I'm I'm I'm gonna hit the stunt mutton
Speaker 1: for a second. You see my twenty one Grammy's laid
Speaker 1: out that. You know, my wife forced me to take
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom and put in one place. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, get after Grammys because you could be selfish.
Speaker 1: You say, well, I got twenty one. So whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and I and I think I deserve one,
Speaker 1: but I U you know, it's all like I said,
Speaker 1: we was born unto a world separated by a class
Speaker 1: uh and uh, race and religion. So class is one
Speaker 1: of the things that people want. You want to be
Speaker 1: upper class, you want to be first class. But in
Speaker 1: a plane crash, everybody did it ain't no class and
Speaker 1: it's just a whole crash. Uh. You know some of
Speaker 1: the things when I first came up with the idea,
Speaker 1: Donda and I was tweeting out all these ideas airplane design,
Speaker 1: this design, this design, like you know, you see of
Speaker 1: course like me and you know, uh, Kim, we can,
Speaker 1: we can take private but you know, we really, you know,
Speaker 1: we want to We want to be in the airport,
Speaker 1: We want to be next to the people. I get
Speaker 1: inspiration when I when I see what people are wearing,
Speaker 1: I see a gat inspiration when I see what people
Speaker 1: are going through, when people are like walking the line slower,
Speaker 1: getting padded down or whatever. That's you know. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you this one story about class. I was going
Speaker 1: to London where I'm going to night um, and I
Speaker 1: was in the first class line and it was real crowded,
Speaker 1: and I looked over at the coach line for customs
Speaker 1: and it's completely empty. We went over to the coach
Speaker 1: line and got through right away, and everybody was sitting
Speaker 1: there with their ermas belts and their big hats. They
Speaker 1: didn't want to lower their class in order to like
Speaker 1: get through faster when time is the only luxury, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that I've been learning over the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: And I used my money, in my position and my
Speaker 1: relationships to learn about class. But my approach, I think
Speaker 1: is a bit more uh robin hood now smoke ghetto,
Speaker 1: even though even though you're getting up in class and
Speaker 1: still ratchet. Yeah, I guess you know, I mean, ghetto
Speaker 1: was fun. I mean, yeah, I like I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 1: My wife got a big as you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm staying stay ghetto. Did you reach out the beck
Speaker 1: after them? Did you reach out the back after her?
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I slipped up a little bit. Maybe
Speaker 1: I went to Yes, I got his number and I
Speaker 1: was supposed to call, but I just keep forgetting Waite.
Speaker 1: We didn't know. I thought Ben was a bit until
Speaker 1: you jumped on. He was very humble about it though,
Speaker 1: because he agreed. He was like, yeah, I mean, it's Beyonce.
Speaker 1: You should have won. It wasn't like he disagreed with you.
Speaker 1: But I felt bad for him. No, I felt good
Speaker 1: for him because thinking all the good stuff that happened
Speaker 1: to me. You know the past. You know seven days,
Speaker 1: eight days, the person that won the most was back
Speaker 1: because if I hadn't done that, his album of the
Speaker 1: Year would have never been mentioned. Now it's in all
Speaker 1: the chatter Kanye West messes up against Kanye West is
Speaker 1: a dark year that you know, I'm already to the enemy.
Speaker 1: So you can't get no worse than the villain. You
Speaker 1: have to be hurt to win an award and then
Speaker 1: have all these people saying you shouldn't have won in
Speaker 1: the bee Hive, going in and leaving negative, nasty comments
Speaker 1: how terrible he is. Well, it's all subjective, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is all subjective. But but you know he should
Speaker 1: win an award for what he did rock album or
Speaker 1: something like that. But he shouldn't have won that award
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But who am I? Who am I
Speaker 1: have opinion yet exactly if you don't respect to be rective.
Speaker 1: But one thing we're always asking the ball shot why
Speaker 1: is why is Kanye always caping for Beyonce' I love Beyond.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Pike Smith. You knows, Carter, but it seems
Speaker 1: like you're always coming to her aid and no one
Speaker 1: Beyond don't need no CAP's Beyonce. I know that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's really ironic that every time it's Beyonce for
Speaker 1: some reason, it's like why, you know, why is it?
Speaker 1: Why is it Beyonce? Why? You know? Why why don't
Speaker 1: I go off phone? Like you know whoever? Going off
Speaker 1: on my wife phone Twitter? And she's like, you know,
Speaker 1: why why do I cater? You know, you know it's
Speaker 1: I think Beyonce is a great representation of an artist
Speaker 1: working hard and trying her best and getting the results
Speaker 1: from it. You know, So say Beyonce's previous album wasn't
Speaker 1: it as well received as this new album? And she
Speaker 1: got low like I got low on my new album. Uh,
Speaker 1: and and deliver something that everybody loved. And if you
Speaker 1: in America, if we want, we have to we have
Speaker 1: to respect greatness when we see it. And we can't
Speaker 1: smack it in the face at the at the cost
Speaker 1: of some vote, spitting at the cost so like blowing
Speaker 1: somebody up that could sell some T shirts. If you
Speaker 1: see something that's great, you gotta respect it. I remember
Speaker 1: I was trying to get on the basketball team fighth grade.
Speaker 1: I hit every free though, hit every layup, and I
Speaker 1: looked at the list and I wasn't on the list.
Speaker 1: And then the coach just gave me the Kanye shrug. Now,
Speaker 1: you know the basketball team come the school. You know,
Speaker 1: that's like the best thing because you get to leave school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're on a basketball team. We had a small gym
Speaker 1: with like you're running to the Broadway stage, like you
Speaker 1: hit the layup and stuff like, but hurt people, hurt people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna make this basketball team. No. No,
Speaker 1: My point is you're not gonna have somebody hit all
Speaker 1: the shots and you're not giving them that credit, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times Beyonce exactly what
Speaker 1: you say. You said, Beyonce don't even know help. People
Speaker 1: look at Beyonce because she's h she's rich, respect the whole.
Speaker 1: She's a beautiful woman. Uh, she's talented. Uh, and so
Speaker 1: they figured she's got everything, so you don't even need
Speaker 1: nothing else. But I think she needs to proper accolates
Speaker 1: because she's an inspiration in that Album of the Year,
Speaker 1: I guess I thought she did win that one when
Speaker 1: year and now she I don't think she's ever won
Speaker 1: an Album of the Year Grammy, and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And this is funny because Taylor was talking to me
Speaker 1: about this. She was saying that, you know, when she
Speaker 1: was the victim, she won every award, and now that
Speaker 1: she's powerful and the biggest selling artist, now she not
Speaker 1: winning awards anymore because they're like, what do you need.
Speaker 1: It's once again, it's that moment where the rich people
Speaker 1: are line is getting clogged up because it's a practical
Speaker 1: joke that everybody in the airport, you know, playing on
Speaker 1: rich people as they should because that's as rich people.
Speaker 1: Our focus shouldn't be on how we get a new fantom,
Speaker 1: how we get a bigger house. Our focus should be
Speaker 1: on how do we help the middle to the lower
Speaker 1: class to have a better life. And I think that
Speaker 1: we get distracted with you know, luxury, so called luxury good,
Speaker 1: so called luxury cards like and I embrace this. Anytime
Speaker 1: a rich person gets it's taken out of them. It's cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, don't don't do
Speaker 1: it to me all the time and stuff. But you
Speaker 1: know that's about because you always used to speak up,
Speaker 1: like when you said, George, don't care about black people
Speaker 1: are speaking up for to have nuts. But now it
Speaker 1: seems like you were just fighting for the civil rights
Speaker 1: with rich people. Later. Yeah, yeah, I think it's the
Speaker 1: rights of everyone, you know. And another thing that I
Speaker 1: used to get really caught up on was with race,
Speaker 1: you know, with racists, Like, Okay, we know, we know
Speaker 1: it's racist people. You know, we know that a lot
Speaker 1: of white men over the age of sixty racists. We
Speaker 1: embrace that. You know, we know that a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are in power, you know, don't really you know,
Speaker 1: they like they're like Donald Sterling. We understand that, we
Speaker 1: know that. But the world is moving. You know, ten
Speaker 1: years from now, twenty years from now, every every uh,
Speaker 1: you know, person of color or female or any minority
Speaker 1: that comes into power will eventually shifted. You know, you
Speaker 1: got the ozone later, you got all this stuff. You see,
Speaker 1: a one hundred years from now, the entire world might
Speaker 1: be black just to even survive on the Earth period.
Speaker 1: Right now, you mentioned you know you stood up for Beyonce.
Speaker 1: People ask you know you're standing for Beyonce. You stand
Speaker 1: up for more than might be your stand up for
Speaker 1: your own wife. Recently, people have been going at your
Speaker 1: wife crazy from the paper magazine cover. It was like, well,
Speaker 1: why would she do that? She has money? Is it
Speaker 1: just for fame? Is it just for Instagram? If it
Speaker 1: just for attention? You know, even Amber Rose came on
Speaker 1: the program a couple of days ago and said your
Speaker 1: wife was fake. How do you reply to all these people?
Speaker 1: And what do you say to everybody? Because even with
Speaker 1: us we were seen her on the cover, it was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Kim is filthy. You know,
Speaker 1: she has a child, she has a family. Why would
Speaker 1: she do that cover? Which which question? Okay, seven question.
Speaker 1: Uh whoa um. One of the things of breaking class
Speaker 1: is respected art can break class. So one of the
Speaker 1: things that shut up a lot of people is the
Speaker 1: fact that John Paul Gou took the photograph that used
Speaker 1: to shoot Grace Stones and Grace Stones figure physique was
Speaker 1: as as new and different as Kim's physique was. And
Speaker 1: you know, our position of power, we're not going to
Speaker 1: accept the you know, the physique that was that was
Speaker 1: given to us. You know that that was told to
Speaker 1: us was the proper, you know, way to look. You know,
Speaker 1: my my daughter has a chance of being shape like
Speaker 1: my wife. So until she between this age and to
Speaker 1: the age where she's like that, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: fighting for that shape to be considered the highest of class,
Speaker 1: or not the highest class, at least equal to what
Speaker 1: someone looks at like a skinny a skinny model for uh.
Speaker 1: My first introduction, one of my first introductions to beauty
Speaker 1: was the Helmet Newton book, This really big book, and
Speaker 1: every woman in it was uh naked. This was a
Speaker 1: straight photographer. He did he did Playboy, and he would
Speaker 1: do Saint Laurent ads and the highest level taste. And
Speaker 1: I was really drawn to the beauty of the of
Speaker 1: the way the photographs are set up, and to the
Speaker 1: fact that I was attracted to the women also, I
Speaker 1: liked the two things at once. I like I like
Speaker 1: the physical attraction, and I like the way that the
Speaker 1: shot was set up. I think that with my wife,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's been a lot of times earlier
Speaker 1: in her career where you know, she didn't have the
Speaker 1: access to that level of photographer. Of course he's passed
Speaker 1: away now, so now that she has the access to
Speaker 1: John Paulkool, to Stephen Klein and Merton Marcus, I can
Speaker 1: name all the really high level of Jackie Nicholas and
Speaker 1: all the high level photographers. Now, you know, it's important
Speaker 1: for her to stand I think for her to stand up,
Speaker 1: you know, and all of her glory and all her power. Man,
Speaker 1: her power is in her, is in her body, is
Speaker 1: in her nudity, of powers, in her mind, of powers,
Speaker 1: in her family. But body is one of the powers
Speaker 1: because well, she's got she's got she's gonna always have
Speaker 1: that body. But she's gonna have mine family, and she's
Speaker 1: gonna she's gonna create a legacy for what you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you name all those brands and the with
Speaker 1: the hood. Don't know that's the hood. The hood is
Speaker 1: like Kanye, just tell your wif she don't gotta get
Speaker 1: naked no more. But she could get naked if she
Speaker 1: wants to. It's not illegal to get naked. And you know,
Speaker 1: and then you think about this, like if Adam and
Speaker 1: never ate the apple, we all be naked. So you
Speaker 1: hit us with that last time. I still haven't have
Speaker 1: not understood that one. I'm trying to forget out one
Speaker 1: out for two years. Do you feel compelled to to
Speaker 1: reach out to amber Rose being that that's your ex
Speaker 1: girlfriend and saying, listen, just calming down, leave my wife
Speaker 1: alone and just chill out. She's just soaking in the moment.
Speaker 1: Nobody feel compared to do nothing. If Kim and like
Speaker 1: dated me when I first wanted to be where, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be an amber Rose. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like sending you naked pictures while y'all together. Though I
Speaker 1: wish I would have, I would have gladly, happily have
Speaker 1: liked to she you know, she she she didn't. Why
Speaker 1: why because by the way, it's like it's very hard
Speaker 1: for a woman to you know, want to you know,
Speaker 1: I want to be with someone that's whatever wrote, So
Speaker 1: she wasn't saying nothing. You know what I'm saying like
Speaker 1: I had to I take thirty showers before I got
Speaker 1: with Kim. You know, please, no, no, ask me no more.
Speaker 1: I does you want to be respectful? Man? I was
Speaker 1: just watching on TV just now and they were saying
Speaker 1: that you said fashion lines didn't want to deal with
Speaker 1: you because you was married to a reality show. Start
Speaker 1: just on just on a business level, because personally we
Speaker 1: can tell you happy. Just on a business level. Do
Speaker 1: you feel the Kardashian brand has hurt Kanye West brand?
Speaker 1: Now it's helped because it just showed, like my ability
Speaker 1: to bring most staff into the studio with jay Z,
Speaker 1: my ability to bridge the gap to bridge. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody sitting over this lunch table they the fashion world, y'all,
Speaker 1: they're cool and stuff. Somebody sitting over this flunch table
Speaker 1: their celebrity and they have a perception about that. And
Speaker 1: you know, I showed people the power of what happens
Speaker 1: when you work together. And now you know, Kim can
Speaker 1: sell address faster than any magazine cover. And you got
Speaker 1: her on the cover of Vogue, which is something that
Speaker 1: we never thought was going to happen the way they
Speaker 1: Anna went to our felt and how she had expressed
Speaker 1: that in the past. What did she say She said
Speaker 1: something today right or earlier today? Oh about bringing Northwest
Speaker 1: to the fashion shows? That was alleged though, they said
Speaker 1: allegedly she was saying, that's not the proper place for
Speaker 1: a child. You know, yeah, I can't speak on alleged comments.
Speaker 1: You did it bother you when you see the news
Speaker 1: and they like Northwest was crying at the fashion show.
Speaker 1: I mean she's a baby. That's what babies, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean I would think you would want your daughter
Speaker 1: in front row at your fashion show. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean think about it. No one could tell me where
Speaker 1: to have my child and that you know, I got
Speaker 1: forward of them. They cried nor you can't tell them
Speaker 1: they were not the cry they're gonna cry. Um Dame
Speaker 1: Dash and the BT Awards, BT honest, why did you
Speaker 1: let him present you with that award? Because he presented
Speaker 1: me to the world. You know, I wouldn't have my
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a record deal if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: Dame Dash. I was that first conversation because at one
Speaker 1: time he hated you he said, I don't think he
Speaker 1: hated you. He felt you were loyal to him. I
Speaker 1: think and I wasn't. And this is an extremely visionary
Speaker 1: move on my part to uh move with to row
Speaker 1: with jay Z. Tell Dame, I mean, if he's the
Speaker 1: one that believed in you, then why does whole get
Speaker 1: the credit and the Big Brother records? Uh? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I mentioned Dame a lot of raps. But you know,
Speaker 1: the story is not done. You know, sometimes it's it's
Speaker 1: meant moments where like I was wilding out, you know,
Speaker 1: drop up by and Jay would be like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just gotta sit this down right now. Sit these
Speaker 1: couple plays out. And you know it was the moment
Speaker 1: when you know, Rocket Rockefeller split. Um, it made more
Speaker 1: sense for me career wise to uh to roll with
Speaker 1: Jay even Dame had uh had supported me, Yeah, supported me? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then I wonder, I say, where will we be,
Speaker 1: you know, fire a row with Dame? What we have been?
Speaker 1: Would I have been more successful? What I've been less successful?
Speaker 1: I you know, I can't. I can't say, but at
Speaker 1: that time, you know, I you know, I came to
Speaker 1: Rockefeller because uh, jay Z was my idol. And it
Speaker 1: would have been very hard for me, you know, at
Speaker 1: that young state where I was to separate from my idol,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the decision I made out there.
Speaker 1: And do I say that there was some disloyalty and that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I owned up to that. Is it anything to me
Speaker 1: and Dame could do together now to make money? I
Speaker 1: think so, well, I do. Yeah, We're gonna work on films.
Speaker 1: And actually I really liked the films that he's doing.
Speaker 1: Uh uh. He had all type of ideas. And then
Speaker 1: like Dame is like the original original person who understood
Speaker 1: culture and really was in it in every situation, would
Speaker 1: go and you know, beings had a problem and go,
Speaker 1: you know, pick beans up with if someone you know,
Speaker 1: have us on a jet with him, you know, talking
Speaker 1: to us direct, talking to me in GLC directly, No
Speaker 1: talking to me about GLC with the film company, Like yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta put out GLC album. You know, just kind
Speaker 1: of remind me, you know, similar to what you were
Speaker 1: saying the last time we were talking about having like
Speaker 1: the real You gotta definitely say that Dame's real, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know. So, And when he came over the crib
Speaker 1: and I just saw him, man, I missed him. Man,
Speaker 1: I missed, you know, I missed the good. I missed
Speaker 1: the bad. Yeah, I missed you know all of that,
Speaker 1: because all of that is what created college dropout, that tension,
Speaker 1: all of that is what created later registration, and we
Speaker 1: were creating something new now in the fashion world and
Speaker 1: in the film world. We don't realize the other day,
Speaker 1: we realized that you still have a love for music.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because I don't know
Speaker 1: who we were talking to. Tiger was talking to Tiger,
Speaker 1: were talking to some one dollar sign and I heard
Speaker 1: a remix with There's so many different names like Kanye's
Speaker 1: in the studio or with everybody. I've always got the
Speaker 1: new guys always it may not even be next in
Speaker 1: the studio with you, so like you keep you into
Speaker 1: the street. They you know, I just gotta I after work,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I think a lot of times people
Speaker 1: get rich, people comfortable, people fall in love and everything.
Speaker 1: You know. I went to this Drake concert in Germany.
Speaker 1: I flew to the concert to go see it, and
Speaker 1: he got this one line where he say, like, uh,
Speaker 1: some about people will be falling in love with famous
Speaker 1: girls and La da dah, and then they wanted to
Speaker 1: be working as much, and he wrapped it. And then
Speaker 1: when he wrapped, he knew I was in the console,
Speaker 1: you like look down and stuff or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. But you know he was right. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I gotta get on my job.
Speaker 1: And that's why I was. That's why I got on
Speaker 1: the end of that blessed Hello, I'm back. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we were back in the studios
Speaker 1: times that you know, I gotta go pick pick my
Speaker 1: daughter up and take it to you know, dance class
Speaker 1: in the morning, and just you know, I try to
Speaker 1: create a regiment. But at least if I go to
Speaker 1: a studio like six hours a day. And it's funny,
Speaker 1: is because when I when I first sat with Tiger,
Speaker 1: like me and Virgil seeing Tiger at the ball Moss store,
Speaker 1: and we knew he was fresh. You know, certain people
Speaker 1: they they have a certain talent with clothing. A Tiger
Speaker 1: asap Rocky, that's the thing. Certain people got certain talent
Speaker 1: with the bars and ship young thug big Sean, you know.
Speaker 1: And I sat in the studio with it was me
Speaker 1: Thug Sean, Travis Tiger, and I was just saying how
Speaker 1: we we we gotta we gotta, we gotta bring our
Speaker 1: resources together. We had to see how we can help
Speaker 1: each other to make each other way fresh and share information.
Speaker 1: Bill have ciphers like back in the Utang are like
Speaker 1: people used to have ciphers. So last night when I
Speaker 1: was working on all day at a q Tip's house,
Speaker 1: it was like me uh vic mensa q Tip and
Speaker 1: we was just we was building on culchure coach of
Speaker 1: coach instead of trying to write bars. We built on
Speaker 1: that and then I started writing the bars. Then they
Speaker 1: started coming and we just started bouncing ideas off each other.
Speaker 1: So with me, you know, I'm I'm only a humble servant.
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you, if you have power,
Speaker 1: you have to empower. You had a power to get power.
Speaker 1: Where I said on the word song power, no one
Speaker 1: man should have all that power. It's a true statement.
Speaker 1: No one man has the power. The power is in
Speaker 1: the people. The people give you the power. The people
Speaker 1: chose me to be the people's champion. As soon as
Speaker 1: I go up, talk about me, me, me, you lose
Speaker 1: that and then and then you got next generations. You
Speaker 1: got No matter how hard I tried, Drake is gonna
Speaker 1: speak to a generation in a way that I might
Speaker 1: not have been at that same basketball game. He was
Speaker 1: at that same high school game, watched that same TV show,
Speaker 1: went to that same club. Tiger's gonna speak to a
Speaker 1: certain big Sean's gonna speak to a certain generation, and
Speaker 1: it's important for a revolution. That comment said on that
Speaker 1: song you just won for us. It's the youth and
Speaker 1: the ogs have to come together. You need the energy
Speaker 1: of the youth, you need the knowledge of the ogs.
Speaker 1: That's why the Bible old men for council of young
Speaker 1: men for war. That's why I sit with I sit
Speaker 1: with Puff, I sit with Dame, I sit with Jay,
Speaker 1: I sit with Farakh, and I talked to I talk
Speaker 1: to the ogs and try to, you know, figure out
Speaker 1: how we can help each other. You know, now with
Speaker 1: Tiger mentioned you're executive reducing this album, you feel like
Speaker 1: his relationship but your sister in laws inappropriate. I think
Speaker 1: that there's a good question right there. Uh you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think that, Uh. I think he
Speaker 1: I think he got in early. I think he was
Speaker 1: smart and do a great Red Shirt prospect was seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, they closer and age than a lot of
Speaker 1: relationships that I know you're not five should be eighteen
Speaker 1: in August, Like, yeah, I knew Tiger was smart. You
Speaker 1: know that Tiger came up here on Saturday with just friends.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what he's posted to say. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't speak on I can't speak album. What what
Speaker 1: kind of album we're getting? What should we expect? Bars? Songs, yo,
Speaker 1: cook out music that just feels good, you know. Like
Speaker 1: my last album was a protest in music. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my ball and go home. If y'all
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let me play well, I want to play it. Dude,
Speaker 1: clothes to do this. Yeah, start shooting the ball real slow.
Speaker 1: This might be at the free throw for a long time.
Speaker 1: That was my whole album and stuff like I don't
Speaker 1: even got no music. I just let you have a
Speaker 1: little music on on Bound, but that was it. But this,
Speaker 1: this album is just embracing the music, embracing you know,
Speaker 1: joy and just making, you know, being of service to
Speaker 1: the people. You know. I just hope that people like
Speaker 1: it to enjoy it, you know, is it now? Listen
Speaker 1: you um you, mister minister fag car Now. I also
Speaker 1: saw you say when you was at the backstage grammars.
Speaker 1: You said you didn't want to speak too much because
Speaker 1: you don't want to jump out of your clothe line.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't like to stand next
Speaker 1: to the minister because they feel like he jumped out
Speaker 1: of their business. Why are you not afraid to, you know,
Speaker 1: show your relationship with the minister. Um. You know, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because I actually asked for the Minister to give
Speaker 1: me my BT Visionary Award and he, you know, he
Speaker 1: felt like it wasn't the right time and maybe for
Speaker 1: reasons just like that. You know. Right now I'm um
Speaker 1: working on a documentary with him, um uh about him
Speaker 1: and about his his music. You know that that he's
Speaker 1: a classically trained violinist and he's also one of the
Speaker 1: most humane people. And now you know, he got that
Speaker 1: stamp in the same way like how my wife was,
Speaker 1: you know stamp with the Sex State. You know, um,
Speaker 1: the ministers stamped with the yeah, uh and uh. It's
Speaker 1: important that while he's still alive, he has to see
Speaker 1: the people appreciate his message because if you ever hear
Speaker 1: him talk, it's about humanity. It's about one race, you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as you hear his name, I see people's
Speaker 1: faces like change, they have a perception. It's and you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot that I can learn from him. You know,
Speaker 1: perhaps you know, you know, maybe maybe the Minister mentioned
Speaker 1: beck Won too many times or something like that, and
Speaker 1: it's things I can learn in my path of how
Speaker 1: to always keep my communication as open as possible, because
Speaker 1: right now it's right at that tip where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta have him because you know, he's gonna bring
Speaker 1: some excitement to the Grammys and all that. But you know,
Speaker 1: we're working on this documentary and it's amazing. It talks.
Speaker 1: It shows that he had like a white violin instructor,
Speaker 1: but then he talked about because you know, he was black,
Speaker 1: how he couldn't get the white instructor and there was
Speaker 1: no black instructors that can instruct him well enough. And
Speaker 1: he talks about how he was asked to stop doing music,
Speaker 1: he had to choose between the nation and music, and
Speaker 1: then how the Honorable Elijah Muhammad asked him to come
Speaker 1: in one day to play the violin, and he embraces
Speaker 1: his passion of music and you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful story about a beautiful soul that's
Speaker 1: very misunderstood. And want to our most powerful, you know messengers,
Speaker 1: and it's very important that we protect our messages. It's
Speaker 1: very important that we support them, you know. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the minute is very sharp. You think it's kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: No one he'll say, you know, negative things about Jewish
Speaker 1: people would then say we should have learned from them.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a confusing method. Oh you could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely should learn from them. We should learn from us.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the you know us and them us
Speaker 1: meaning we should learn from human beings. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's the first thing we're gonna do to I think,
Speaker 1: stop racism and stop focusing on racism. And I understand
Speaker 1: that it's somebody going to work right now that has
Speaker 1: a white boss that's talking down to them because they black.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to deny that, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we understand that people as different races. You know, it
Speaker 1: would be like light skin against dark skin and stuff.
Speaker 1: It just slows down the conversation. Man, you don't know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know if it's a excuse me for
Speaker 1: the statement, Yeah, yeah, it does, ob shut up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I also every people are human beings. So everything
Speaker 1: this man says when I talked to him, everything he says,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much correct. But I'm saying everything a person
Speaker 1: se is not going to be correct. You know, every
Speaker 1: move of person may it is not going to be
Speaker 1: well tied. But sometimes those mistime moves can inspire the
Speaker 1: next generation, like podcasts to say. He said, I might
Speaker 1: not change the world, but I'm inspired somebody that changes
Speaker 1: the world. When I think about, Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: do surround vision, I want to do my movie theater,
Speaker 1: I want to do my clothing line, I want to
Speaker 1: do this. Uh, you know my goal is man, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a four year old that's gonna see that in
Speaker 1: cure cancer one day. Maybe we could keep if you
Speaker 1: if your job is inspiration, you have to keep pushing
Speaker 1: that at all costs because you never know who's going
Speaker 1: to be inspired by that. And a lot of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I'm successful now is because the people who
Speaker 1: work with me now grew up on a college dropout,
Speaker 1: you know, before when I was going in years ago.
Speaker 1: Everyone they listen to rock, they like Bruce Springs, and
Speaker 1: they're like, they don't even know about the college Dropoutum,
Speaker 1: so now they know what we brought to the table
Speaker 1: and they want to they want to be a part
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah. Uh, this this movement in a way
Speaker 1: last year when it was so much racial tension and um,
Speaker 1: you know, the police brutality and stuff like, it's almost
Speaker 1: like people wanted you to say something. Were you were
Speaker 1: you purposely you know, falling back from being vocal about
Speaker 1: the Mike Brown situations and things like that. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: dad would email me and say stay out of it.
Speaker 1: And now my dad is like a thousand times smarter
Speaker 1: than me and a thousand times more social than me.
Speaker 1: He like literally lived at a homeless shelter, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: and he emailed me and told me stay out of it.
Speaker 1: That's my only parent, you know, so I have to
Speaker 1: listen to him sometimes. Uh. I think he's just trying
Speaker 1: to be protective of his son. You know. I can't
Speaker 1: run in front of every bullet, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: it's I just can't run in front of every single bullet.
Speaker 1: Is it in the music for this album? Maybe? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely. Yeah. You know, I'm always gonna you know,
Speaker 1: talk about you know, what's going on, Like margat Gate
Speaker 1: will say it's definitely gonna be in there is done. Um,
Speaker 1: I think eighty percent. I'm trying to get it finished.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it to the people. You know,
Speaker 1: as soon as possible, you're gonna release. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like a you have a release date, that's like, you
Speaker 1: can't do it. It's played out. Yeah, slash Lash one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Release dates is played out. So so the
Speaker 1: surprise is gonna be a surprise. They go to surprise,
Speaker 1: No surprise, no one thing the hood always wanted to
Speaker 1: know to where did that soft whisper Michael Jackson's voice
Speaker 1: come from? The debuted on the Chris Jenner Show a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and show you've used it in
Speaker 1: more than that setting. Where did that come from? That?
Speaker 1: Like A, I don't know, you're in the show. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, don't know. No, nobody wants like the
Speaker 1: worst thing, the thing that America doesn't want. Okay, yet
Speaker 1: America in the world are attagging as black man, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know black men aren't in their own country
Speaker 1: and that in power a by all this site, so
Speaker 1: you constantly getting poked at. But the thing that they
Speaker 1: hate the most is the angry black man. Even though
Speaker 1: they could cause you to be angry, they hate that.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you could just understand how to
Speaker 1: not get angry in a boxing match, you know, if
Speaker 1: you get angry, you lost. You know, So this this
Speaker 1: is a match of life, a match of culture. And
Speaker 1: if I'm angry all the time, I've already lost, you know,
Speaker 1: So I just need to stop being angry. And people say, yeah,
Speaker 1: what does you have to be angry about? I got
Speaker 1: enough to be happy about, the focus on that to
Speaker 1: not be angry about stuff, And plus it helps me
Speaker 1: work better when I'm calm. Now. The hood wants to know.
Speaker 1: This is a box stop question. Does Beyonce and Kim
Speaker 1: have a problem, because it seems like they problem. No,
Speaker 1: they love each other, They respect each other. When I
Speaker 1: when I when Beyonce is working on an album, she
Speaker 1: hads like pictures of Kim on the wall because Kim
Speaker 1: presents you know, powerful women. You know, you know, Kim
Speaker 1: is like be playing the What's it? What's all? I
Speaker 1: know you can what's that all? Seven to eleven? Playing
Speaker 1: that video? Playing for our daughter. You know, Kim is
Speaker 1: not the only picture on the wall, right, No, it
Speaker 1: some other that's weird, but it's definitely, you know, they
Speaker 1: definitely respect each other. But it's aw. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a Lebron James Kobe element to it, but I
Speaker 1: didn't say that. But they're not even Kim don't sing
Speaker 1: the bad Mommy Lane. Yeah, yeah, trying to say I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say that. I'm not gonna but they're bad.
Speaker 1: When it comes to when it comes to raising Northwest,
Speaker 1: does it concern you? Are you like, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously she's gonna be spoiled because we're her parents, But
Speaker 1: does it concern you that you want to make sure
Speaker 1: she's like got some type of you know, street sense
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Do you even think about that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she her and her big you know her my friends
Speaker 1: would call them her uncle's. Her uncle's definitely gonna put
Speaker 1: on and definitely you know, um, it's this, it's this toy.
Speaker 1: I wish I know what's the name of the brand
Speaker 1: of the toy? Gave the what's the name of the story.
Speaker 1: We went to Sweet William. They got these toys that
Speaker 1: my daughter got. Vanessa Beecroft that did the fashion show.
Speaker 1: She bought my daughter three wolves and she sawty because
Speaker 1: I would see toys that people will see and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, give her. I'm like, these toys is weak.
Speaker 1: She gotta have better toys than this, right, And sure enough,
Speaker 1: when she got these wolves from from this toy store,
Speaker 1: she was going crazy. This is the happiest I've ever
Speaker 1: seen her. Right, So of course me, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go and buy every single toy there. And I was
Speaker 1: just having a conversation with my wife yesterday, like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we can't give all these toys. Get just walk
Speaker 1: in and just give all the toys. And once she's like,
Speaker 1: we're just give him off for the birthday. We can't
Speaker 1: give she can't even have everything for a birthday. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to like piece this out, you know. So
Speaker 1: I am very conscientious about the idea of someone being,
Speaker 1: you know, too spoiled, because I think I've been spoiled
Speaker 1: in the passing. But it's wolves came from those wolves.
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about wolves for some reason. That's that's
Speaker 1: always been on my mind. Let's go back to Dame
Speaker 1: for a second. I'm just gonna ahead and give y'all
Speaker 1: a sound bite that y'all want, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: ahead and say it. Where the Wolves song came from.
Speaker 1: The Wolves song, I'm just going ahead and say it.
Speaker 1: And and because maybe this will promote it happening, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it out in the real world. The
Speaker 1: Wolves song came from a conversation that me and Drake
Speaker 1: cad where we was gonna do an album together, and
Speaker 1: the album is called Wolves. Jay would have been pissed
Speaker 1: off about that because jo he ever doing another album
Speaker 1: with an artist. He said no, I said nah, specifically,
Speaker 1: he said no because me and you already started that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what happened. Me and Jay started talking about Washington,
Speaker 1: and Drake went and did all the records of Wayne
Speaker 1: and did the tour and we never did it. But
Speaker 1: I just went out and put it in in the eather.
Speaker 1: I put it out in the world. Y'all don't like it,
Speaker 1: then y'all can send it right back. Yeah, I asked.
Speaker 1: I asked him, and we talked about it, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we just gonna do it. And actually, you know, we
Speaker 1: got he was sending beats back and forth. You know,
Speaker 1: I got this one record with Young Thugs I think
Speaker 1: was gonna put on Rana album. I know I'm given
Speaker 1: a lot of information away today. Appreciate it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: listen to talk about name. Does that affect you in
Speaker 1: Jay's relationship? Now, Nobody's relationship affect any relationship. Everybody needs
Speaker 1: to just have a good relationship. You know, we all
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I you know if anything? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we all helped each other at a certain point,
Speaker 1: and you know we all see each other at a
Speaker 1: certain point. Do you and Jay still have a good
Speaker 1: relationship because you know you said that was your idol,
Speaker 1: but you know you work hard to your idols become
Speaker 1: your rivals. Man. That's I wouldn't be sitting here today
Speaker 1: right now if it wasn't Jay. Jay. Jay helped me
Speaker 1: period in every single way that you can think. You know,
Speaker 1: whether it was like holding me down when I'm in
Speaker 1: New York, I'm to do with the pink polo and
Speaker 1: a bad attitude and I'm still here, ye, jay Z
Speaker 1: I'm gonna happen. I don't know if it might happen
Speaker 1: because I threw that out. It don't do it man,
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, by the way, he'd probably
Speaker 1: be mad that I mentioned it on y'all y'all show
Speaker 1: since he's like because he just likes y'all so much.
Speaker 1: So is it true that one time you was in
Speaker 1: a restaurant and some when you had to pink back
Speaker 1: in the pink polo days, some dudes in New York
Speaker 1: it's gonna rob you. Yeah, came through with the pistol
Speaker 1: and yeah that's true. Yeah. Do you feel like you
Speaker 1: made old Beanie something for that? I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put out some u you know, uh
Speaker 1: some let me see you ain't got media training new Yeah,
Speaker 1: still be on you know, on the papers. Let me
Speaker 1: think about how much see this one? Okay, I know
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound like someone politically correct answer like
Speaker 1: one of these politicians type answers. But you know, I
Speaker 1: owe every hip hop artist in a way. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean for you to come to you know, house
Speaker 1: to street and stand in front of my apartment and
Speaker 1: be like verse or something like that, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I owe I owe hip hop. You know, just like
Speaker 1: saying like Ben Horwitz is like the only VC out
Speaker 1: in San franc that like Belieze and rap. You know,
Speaker 1: he gave Nas a piece of you know, rap genius
Speaker 1: and all that. You know, he used to be in
Speaker 1: a rap group. But you know, we all owe hip
Speaker 1: hop and I believe that I do have the ability
Speaker 1: that I believe I'm gonna be the head of the
Speaker 1: first trillion dollar company. And when I get to that point,
Speaker 1: you know, no rapper, whatever have to worry about. That's
Speaker 1: whatever have to worry about anything getting You know, my
Speaker 1: plan is becoming one by one big that he can
Speaker 1: come to his crib, you know everybody crib and you
Speaker 1: know hip hop reparations. Yeah, exactly like the Forrest Gump
Speaker 1: moment after they like, you know, when it got apple
Speaker 1: and came to everybody, like, I owe every you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop artist because I wouldn't have made it this
Speaker 1: far without without all of them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Look at I mean, look at my daughter's name. You
Speaker 1: know that's hip hop's name's Nori. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: your daughter after there's an element of that. Only one
Speaker 1: was tweeting. Um now I think he's talking about it.
Speaker 1: He's talking about his daughter like Nori thought for him, No, no,
Speaker 1: we only only only one. Uh has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Noriega. I didn't think I don't have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Noriega whatsoever. The but you know, but everything
Speaker 1: else in my life does. Let's talk about some of
Speaker 1: your artists for a second. Like you got you gotta
Speaker 1: close placeship with Drake, but at one point Push your
Speaker 1: team Drake had a little issue and you know Push
Speaker 1: it was was hurt because you came out that over
Speaker 1: your fast. Um, yeah we got over it. Ye. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what's going on with her. She put out
Speaker 1: an amazing album. She's your artist, but it like she's
Speaker 1: very talented, but it seems like you don't support her,
Speaker 1: like you don't stand by her like you should. Maybe
Speaker 1: you know I don't support her enough. I need to
Speaker 1: do more. I need to wrap on some remixes, I
Speaker 1: need to go shoot some videos. A lot of times
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, when you're focusing on clothing, you
Speaker 1: focus on your family, you're focusing on all these different things.
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's hard to put all the focus,
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I do need to put some
Speaker 1: more focus on I haven't put enough focused on. Two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, you was from rushing the stage, calling out back,
Speaker 1: far from humble, and now you're just like humble can
Speaker 1: be ready. I tell you, it seems like love for
Speaker 1: the music. Like you brought out Fattie Watch when he
Speaker 1: was performing at this show. Was a Jersey artist. That's
Speaker 1: pretty new and it's telling me that you're back to
Speaker 1: that element of music again, and that's what people are
Speaker 1: excited about. Yeah, and I was able to get you
Speaker 1: know what's so funny. It's like, right out that I
Speaker 1: did the fashion show, I went to go shoot the
Speaker 1: Blessings video with Jake and Sean and I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to be able to go do that.
Speaker 1: And I used to be resentful of having to do music.
Speaker 1: But because I was able to, now I could take
Speaker 1: a piss. You know. It's like it might tell you
Speaker 1: just do one, you know. Yeah, So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just happy to just keep creating and just inspire people
Speaker 1: through through through joy an accomplishment. And like with Thedida's thing,
Speaker 1: they gave me a little bit of oxygen. Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe. I was looking at a person suffocating. I
Speaker 1: got at least I got some ideas out. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: ten percent five percent of what I really want to do,
Speaker 1: Like I want to be supported by Disney in the
Speaker 1: same way how data supported me. I want Disney Imagineering
Speaker 1: to support my ideas and the same energy that Fashion
Speaker 1: Week had in that same front row and all that
Speaker 1: Bob Iger. I'm telling you, I'm I'm I'm gonna bring that.
Speaker 1: I know, and you know right now our brands might
Speaker 1: not mix, But like I'm a I'm a family man.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Frozen. That's like a second nanny. You
Speaker 1: know you've been very though to call yourself a designer.
Speaker 1: At what point would you say I am a designer?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's going to be a point
Speaker 1: or you're just a creator? I think yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if it's a I don't even want to
Speaker 1: give myself any form of a title anymore. I'm not
Speaker 1: calling myself that Janie is something. I called myself a
Speaker 1: visionary any type. The only thing I could say that
Speaker 1: is I'm a servant. You know, I want to serve
Speaker 1: and if I can get a group of amazing designers
Speaker 1: together to create something to be able to serve the public,
Speaker 1: then that's my job. I'm just a humble servant. How
Speaker 1: don't we know you're telling us the truth and you're
Speaker 1: not just being politically correct because you're corporate connects. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm never politically correct, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: speak from my heart of exactly when I'm at at
Speaker 1: that time. You know, now recently you said that when
Speaker 1: you first got with kim you lost a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: Why was that? And who who were your friends that
Speaker 1: you lost? You know when I said that in an interview,
Speaker 1: I said, I said so called friends. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: getting to know that, you know, saw this. Should we
Speaker 1: let them sit at the table? Should we not let
Speaker 1: them sit at the table. But there were some people
Speaker 1: in fashion that did stand bias this Kareem Rothfield, is
Speaker 1: Ricardo Tishi that you know, even even Anna Winter. They
Speaker 1: are part of the anti uh kim Ya move. You know,
Speaker 1: they were standing in the on the front line when
Speaker 1: there was an anti kim yau. And now that they're here,
Speaker 1: any meeting, any meeting, any dinner they have, they'll be like, man, see,
Speaker 1: I told y'all, I was the ones that was, you know,
Speaker 1: like Ricardo dressed the Kareem put on a magazine and
Speaker 1: I put on a magazine, So that that statement was
Speaker 1: a little bit out of context because it wasn't everybody,
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of people and so be it.
Speaker 1: They was wrong and we was right. Are you cool
Speaker 1: to work with people even after you just know they're fake?
Speaker 1: You know the build with them? Yeah, I don't know. No, No,
Speaker 1: yeah I don't. I've never held a grudge anyway. You know,
Speaker 1: after you left this day, you were really flustered. I
Speaker 1: know you went to go see Sway and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were saying, y'all messed up this whole day
Speaker 1: after the interview with the breakfast club. That was beautiful. Man,
Speaker 1: at least that happened, like you know, at least that
Speaker 1: the house Sway. I know you was mad that you
Speaker 1: and get that part right there. But you you got
Speaker 1: you got me suped up and stuff. You charged me
Speaker 1: up for that joint. But you know, it's like he
Speaker 1: really didn't have the answers. You know that was correct.
Speaker 1: That wasn't correct what he was saying. You know, I
Speaker 1: could have said it in a calmer way, but it
Speaker 1: was it was missing for him. But I think you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing I was saying last time was like
Speaker 1: those fashion people don't love me. It's like why I
Speaker 1: asked him for help? You Kanye, and as you can see,
Speaker 1: you're doing pretty okay for yourself. Well, I needed that
Speaker 1: help because still now I got like one of my
Speaker 1: head designers worked in Marzella for a while. One of them,
Speaker 1: the girl worked on the shoes, worked at Selene. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been pulling that talent from a place that was
Speaker 1: only for the four thousand dollars jacket lines to a
Speaker 1: place that we're going to be delivering shoes at two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. On hundred dollars, we might get some shoes
Speaker 1: down to sixty dollars. I mean, we were about to
Speaker 1: flip this whole thing on his head. It's a new
Speaker 1: idea of apparel. And they got information and I had
Speaker 1: to ask them. I had to be humble, I had
Speaker 1: to beg to go to dinners and I had to
Speaker 1: explain to them, why, you know, why should we work
Speaker 1: with you? Yeah, how we know you just not you know,
Speaker 1: another celebrity is gonna wear a red leather jacket or
Speaker 1: you're gonna distance in public because you're gonna you know.
Speaker 1: And it's been a long journey, and now we gained
Speaker 1: some ground and now I can I can give some
Speaker 1: you know, dope shit to the people. But these people
Speaker 1: are knowledgeable. Man, they went to the Yale of you know,
Speaker 1: of fashion. I mean, speaking these other experts and you're
Speaker 1: trying to learn from them to get better in the
Speaker 1: fashion world. Yeah. I hate when people be talking about
Speaker 1: I just designed a restaurant. I just designed you be like, man,
Speaker 1: it looked like you designed this restaurant. Did you get
Speaker 1: backlash from E when you told Terrence, Jay and cloy
Speaker 1: take the E logos off the Kardashians on a percentage
Speaker 1: that was turned. I'm really happy I did that. Man,
Speaker 1: that was like really ignorant, you know, that was like
Speaker 1: the backlash like Chris control yoursel. Yeah. Yeah, because they
Speaker 1: was happy because they got more ratings. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that my opinion from someone that's knowledgeable, you know, what's
Speaker 1: offensive to me is uh, you know, overbrand and all that.
Speaker 1: That's that's too much man. That's not futuristic. Man. That's
Speaker 1: in the now and in the past. They got to
Speaker 1: be forward, man. We got to promote forward ideas, man,
Speaker 1: because beauty is important, and beauty wasn't important. You know,
Speaker 1: my wife wouldn't be so famous. You know. That's when
Speaker 1: you say that. If I've heard you said that. The
Speaker 1: after party was like if it wasn't for beauty, the
Speaker 1: Kardashes wouldn't be famous if I said that that could
Speaker 1: come off as the soul. But they beautiful, you know,
Speaker 1: people want to be that beautiful. You know, anything else brains.
Speaker 1: Obviously they connect to some business sense because they all,
Speaker 1: you know, successful family and all, you know, multi millionaires.
Speaker 1: And one thing I think about with me is, look
Speaker 1: how long it's taken me to turn any of my
Speaker 1: friends to a multi millionaire. Kim did it like that.
Speaker 1: She did it out the gate. She was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take Chloe. You gonna take Courtney, We're gonna
Speaker 1: take Courtney boyfriend, We're gonna take the kids. Were gonna
Speaker 1: take this and we all go be millionaires like that,
Speaker 1: you know, like reality it's like rap. It's so futuristic.
Speaker 1: It's the new, you know, like my wife is a
Speaker 1: visionary at the end of the day, Like that's and
Speaker 1: now I want to make skits and be like, what
Speaker 1: did you do? I don't know nobody else that it's
Speaker 1: success successful at what she's doing. That's her now. Um,
Speaker 1: I want only got a comple more questions. Did you
Speaker 1: did you was only one therapeutic for you? Like did
Speaker 1: it bring you the tears in the studio maybe oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah one and and bring brought my wife to tears.
Speaker 1: Anybody I played for and people ask me why did
Speaker 1: I Why did I go only one over all day? Well?
Speaker 1: Only one made me feel like me. It made me
Speaker 1: feel like this was the song I had to play,
Speaker 1: you know, back to the studio of Cameron and Jip
Speaker 1: Jones who ever played thirty you know dip set records.
Speaker 1: One of my one am I gonna play to be
Speaker 1: the pink polo? What am I gonna play that's gonna
Speaker 1: stand out? What? What point do I have? What? That
Speaker 1: was my problem? My issue I have Once I got
Speaker 1: which I love Cruel Summer. I think it's amazing, But
Speaker 1: I felt like I started sort of you know, blending
Speaker 1: in with the pack in a in a way, you know,
Speaker 1: with a record like Click, which is a great Click.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a great song. We still perform it.
Speaker 1: But it's important for me to innovate. And even like
Speaker 1: with Drake, I think he would tell you it's like,
Speaker 1: it's important to have a Yeasy's album supportant to have
Speaker 1: whatever this next thing is, because you know he can.
Speaker 1: You need vibe, small directions, you need innovators. My job
Speaker 1: in life is to innovate. I think the Only One
Speaker 1: is an innovative record. I think FO five is an
Speaker 1: innovative record. I think Wolves is a less innovative. But
Speaker 1: it's the third proposition this year off the album, and
Speaker 1: Wolf sounds like you know, eight a Way to Bit.
Speaker 1: It sounds like signature Kanye post eight a Ways Drake
Speaker 1: whirl you know record? Um uh, that's a run on.
Speaker 1: You got a proper run on so you can say
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm talking about. The person. And this
Speaker 1: makes me crazy, But my grandmother, who I love dealing,
Speaker 1: she was my second mom. She passed away and I
Speaker 1: had a dream about it, and it was like she
Speaker 1: was talking to me in my dreams. I wonder if
Speaker 1: you had like a vision of your mother speaking to you,
Speaker 1: maybe called that. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize, I said, And I didn't even know exactly.
Speaker 1: It's literally like those movies you see where it's like
Speaker 1: somebody talking to you. I murmured that, and I realized
Speaker 1: after the fact. I said, only one, and my name Kanye.
Speaker 1: My mother named me that. It means only one. That's
Speaker 1: the meaning of my name. Then after the song was out,
Speaker 1: my cousin Abigail, which I promised, I got you some shoes.
Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm looking for a side six. They run
Speaker 1: a little bit big, but said, you know that our grandmother,
Speaker 1: my mom used to say, now I lay me down
Speaker 1: to sleep, I prayed the lord I sold to keep
Speaker 1: before she had put me to bed. And my grandmother
Speaker 1: actually named me Omari, which is the first line, Hello Mari.
Speaker 1: So I realized at that point that they were both
Speaker 1: talking to me. It wasn't just my mom, that my
Speaker 1: grandmother was speaking to me. So you get these generations.
Speaker 1: So right now, I'm working on a a video game
Speaker 1: for only one uh and the ideas it's my mother
Speaker 1: going through the gates of heaven and you got to
Speaker 1: bring it to the highest gates of heaven by holding
Speaker 1: it to the light. And you know, we've been working
Speaker 1: on it for like six months. So that's why you
Speaker 1: kept the life floor of the Grammys, because that was
Speaker 1: the first thing might break down. I didn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: um nah, it was supposed to be more smoke on it,
Speaker 1: and the practice version was better, and I wasn't completely
Speaker 1: satisfied with the visuals on the on the Grammys. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why I turned up on the SNL visuals. I
Speaker 1: was like, they can't. I ain't playing they Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing these visuals. Gotta hurt you gotta uh yeah.
Speaker 1: But working with Paul McCartney, I've read I read an
Speaker 1: article where they compare you to John Lennon as Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney ever said anything to you about that, Nah, But
Speaker 1: we talk about any and everything. But I do think
Speaker 1: that there's like the angst that I feel, the you know,
Speaker 1: the ankst that I feel from the world, The angst
Speaker 1: I feel from like, you know, what people are going
Speaker 1: through in Chicago, what people are going through find naturally,
Speaker 1: the angst what people are going through with just you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like John felt like that. And when I
Speaker 1: got past the Gucci store and got past how cool
Speaker 1: my jacket was, I finally was, like the song says,
Speaker 1: the man I always knew you could be when I
Speaker 1: became like a protector, a dad, a husband, I finally,
Speaker 1: you know, could stand up and stand for something. You know,
Speaker 1: but we appreciate you joining this man new improved media training. Yea,
Speaker 1: you came back. Yeah, happy to be here. Charlemagne man,
Speaker 1: I love that absolutely calm. When I came talking today
Speaker 1: last time, what did I say. I said, a guy
Speaker 1: that's so easy to like, but he makes it hard
Speaker 1: to want to like him. But just a couple of lantics.
Speaker 1: But that's part of being human, right yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, it's Kanye, It's the Breakfast Club, Gomoding