WEBVTT - Kanye West Interview 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.640 The Real Key for Real Celebrity Real Talk joined the 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:10.000 Breakfast Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye shol I 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.840 mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club special guests 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.639 had as morning. He's back, He's back, Kanye West was. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.320 I didn't think it was gonna happen. I bet Kanye's 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:20.959 not gonna come back up here after there was a rap. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.560 Now I'm definitely I'm coming back every time. Let me 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.119 start with some positivity. Man, I think only one in 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.440 Wolves and Dope records. Oh wow, I think they're really 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:34.560 dope tuns. Yeah wow, this darting way different than class. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.680 But I don't like seconds And next, why did you 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.919 do that? I do like four or five seconds ago 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.599 that I don't when you sing, but I like four 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.879 or five. I don't like all the tune either, but 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.120 I need it really why? I mean, how you people 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.320 say that widdle? Because I could do I can like 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.440 bend my voice in other ways, like at the end 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:01.000 of Runaway and everything I like to do. That got you? Yeah, absolutely, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.000 And thank you for inviting me to the fashion show 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.000 as well. Oh yeah, it was a setup. And thought 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.120 it was a setup. He s he's gonna get beat 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.000 up in there. It's gonna be a he's gonna get jumped. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.640 But well it wasn't. I felt like it was only 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.920 right you came, you came here. You know what I'm saying. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.040 He threw all the slander, So why I wouldn't not 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.240 come to the fashion show? Yeah? Yeah, but you put 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.160 him next to Drake, which was kind of put me 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:27.640 next be back there kind of. All. Now, let's talk 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.720 about the first uh your shoes to just release. Yeah, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.080 I heard y'all don't like those, No, not y'all. I 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.679 said that I actually have a pair of shoes that 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.440 looked like similar to them, and I like that. That's 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:38.920 not a good thing when a girl has shoes that 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.240 look like men's shoes. But I like the Black Colorway great, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.080 the Great Colorway. When I first saw it looked like 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.640 a paper in machade project. But the Black Ones tough. Yeah, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.280 we're coming with the Black Ones real soon. But that 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.280 is a big accomplishment for you. You You put that out 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.680 limited run first, right, sold out, and now people are 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.320 buying them online for over fifteen hundred for Yeah, I see, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.600 I don't. I didn't want them to be limited. Actually, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.080 that's something that the company did I really want as 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.120 many people to get them as possible, you know, I 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.639 really don't. I don't want the price to be three fifty. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.880 I don't want to play this like sneaker culture game 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.080 and all this, so they'd be reselling them for high 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.560 prices and stuff. I just want people just have what 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.959 I made, like you know, you know, limited release or 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.880 the college dropout, you know, a limited release to graduation, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.600 you know. And I think in clothing right now, it's 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.399 a real it's a real separatism, you know, Like it's 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.280 five thousand dollars sweatshirts and everybody spending that money and 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.040 trying to show up in the club and act like 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.920 they you know what I'm saying, Like, it's like we 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.760 need to spend that money on our families and stuff 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.200 we need. So my my point of what I'm doing 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.400 in clothing right now, as I'm going and taking the talent, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.760 Like I just came from the Ralph Show and I 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.400 was talking to Ralph and I was like, man, I 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.680 need your help, you know, because you know how to 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.959 make clothes, and I know, I think I know what 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:54.160 you know my generation wants, but it's very difficult, you know, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.480 if you don't have that production and that experience like 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.880 with Ralph Has and it's really difficult to get those 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.280 price points like the z on h and price points 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.440 if you don't if you don't get the factories, if 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:04.840 you don't get the boats and stuff. I mean, I 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.480 talked about this before because it's hard to I have 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.600 no idea. They just priced that. I think I think 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.720 that they just you know what, I think their logic was. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.800 They didn't want it to go from the other company 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.280 and go to a datas and they'd be like, man, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.280 why they drop? Yeah, because sometimes the public won't always 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.200 understand the transition, you know, like Steve Jobs always had 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.000 the iPad in his head, but he couldn't do it 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.239 the next coming from a keyboard and floppy this to 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.240 the iPad. You know, you had to walk people into this. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:34.880 I think the whole I did with with you go 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.720 into a dadas is you have more control, and it 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.640 was you you could do everything. Yeah. I do have 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.080 a lot more. At least I could do something, you know, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.280 But any relationship that starts off, you ain't gonna have 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.720 all the control. You know what I'm saying. It's a marriage. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.200 Usually the first year of any situation is the toughest. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.200 And then when you guys start to communicate, you know, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.320 it could be like it could be powerful. And explain 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.000 the stake a little bit because I'm a sneak ahead 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.880 tons of sneakers, and I assumed it to be like, 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.240 I don't like to compare, but the other sneakers that 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.760 you were released, they were leather, they were more of 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.600 a sneaker sneaker like you could bail out in the 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.480 other sneakers. This one, I don't think I could play basketball. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.840 You actually could play basketball. And this one better than 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.000 the other ones. It's been Yeah, because the first of all, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.520 I've got Boost, which is the best technology. And I'm 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.120 not just saying that contractually with Adidas. What I'm saying 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.040 that after someone who goes to the gym and if 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.080 I wear like my you know, Boost, actually I feel 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.599 better because I have problems with the back of my 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.440 achy least from performing so much. And then actually I 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.640 did say fat girls with cankles look it looked like 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.520 it'd be comfortable for them. Yeah, I mean, I'm working, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.920 I'm working on it. People joke that they look sort 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.800 of like the ugs, right, but what's so bucked out? 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.640 Is I'm really working on trying to make a sexier 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.000 UG because you see ugs all the time. I feel 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.320 comfortable and I see you know, I see stuff from 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.440 the future, and I'm always like, I'm such a like 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.760 a futurist that I had to like slow down and 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.719 talk in the present, you know. And this was a 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.039 proposition to where I think shoes will go. I think 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.320 the color Palace, all this, the red over here in 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.640 the thirty different Colors way in the Black History Month 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.960 version and all that, I think that's gonna be, that's 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.680 gonna be out of there in the future. This is 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.240 for me, as you know, humbly I would say I'm 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.560 the most influential person in footwear right now, there's no 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.200 way to humbly say that truth will I say? Truthfully, Okay, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:25.800 I'm the most influential person in footwear. So when it well, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.680 those are rereleases, but when it comes to new sneaks, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.800 I think he is absolutely Now how hard is it 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.680 to get that balance between wanting to get something that 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.479 people can afford, but then also wanting to use those 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.880 materials and make things really special, you know, things that 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.800 make you more creative. Yeah, those materials is all a 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.240 game that the factories played too. You know if silks 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.120 in style, silk is more expensive from the factories, you know, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.800 you know you can get everything for a better price. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.360 It's all in like how you you know, how you 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.880 negotiate h with the factories and uh, you know, my 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.920 end goal ten years so now will be to have 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.120 everything at a Zara level, like I think Steve made 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.560 it with phones wasn't a show of class anymore. You know, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.599 you had the Virtue phone. You bust a four thousand 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.000 dollar phone. You felt like you was better than somebody. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.240 And I don't understand this talk at all. Yeah, you know, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.159 yeah with the phone, I'm talking about the Virtuo phones. Yeah, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.000 I'm not that clear speaker. You know, I had this 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.760 car accident and everything, and it's just uh, ever since then, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.800 I've been like a mumble mouth. So but what I'm 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.000 saying is, you know, right now, people will try to 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.839 put on a jacket to try to act like they 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.000 better than you, you know, And I think this idea 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.920 of being better than the next man is just it's 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.719 the wrong mentality in first place, Like we were, you know, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.280 we were born into a broken world that's been separated 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:44.400 by race, religion in class, you know, but you confuse 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.080 you when you say stuff like that though, because you 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.680 do act like you're better than people. Sometimes. No, like 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.000 the Grammars is a great example when you end up 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.840 and you tell everybody to respect the artistry, but it's 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.440 like you're not respecting the art. Yeah, into yeah, and 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.240 I deserved it. Man. That was completely be hypocritical. And 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.880 you know I was the other I'm go ahead, you know, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.520 tell y'all, like the other day, like I went to 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.160 dinner and sat down with Taylor Swift right and ironically 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.720 they were like playing the Beck album and I and 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.480 romantically or you think they did that. No, maybe they 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.120 did it on purpose so I could finally hear if 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.760 I was. I was like, man, so you hadn't even 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.040 heard it when you did the game. I was like, man, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:27.120 this is like kind of good heard the album when 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:35.720 he did? Nah, I hadn't even heard it many out 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.520 here in the album. That's not true. What did I say? 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.520 I'll say I can't even say if Beck didn't deserve 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.880 it because I didn't hear it. And that was an 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.720 argument that we had because I was like, well, Kanye 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.480 might not even know a lot of people didn't have 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.200 never heard back, and I said, I never heard it, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.320 so but people were saying, no, I'm sure he heard it. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.240 He had to have heard it to say that. You 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.720 know what, I bet you that album is really good. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.040 You know, I'm I'm gonna listen to the album. Maybe 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.320 it was potentially an Album of the Year. But the 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.400 Grammys are still have a commercial component to it, and 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.600 they want to sell commercials, you know, so if they 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.400 have you know, these big superstars sitting in the audience 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.320 and advertise that they upcoming next performing, that's what they're 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.400 trying to do to get those views. You don't you 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.320 don't have these people sitting here and then you know, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.800 have them like their hearts beating and stuff. We work 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.280 too hard to deal with all that and we ain't 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.200 got no time for you know, be like losing in 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.640 a situation where you because who's winning. We ain't getting 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.720 none of the advertising money. You know, they don't play 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.600 with us, you know, that's that's that's what my main 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.600 point is. But why why do these big superstars go 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.439 with the tolerated like people like yourself, You go, You're tolerated, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:33.840 but not celebrated, like when it comes to like the 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.760 Soul Train Awards or BT Hip Hop Awards and BT Wars. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.360 You hear Kanye one, but Kanye is not here to 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.360 accept that. That's why we need to support the people 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.719 that support us and not just particularly just a black thing. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.199 We always say, you know, it's it's black show. That's 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.000 just that. But you know, it just needs to be uh, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.079 you know, it's gonna be a wow. It's gonna be 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.560 a wow. I ain't got the answers of how to 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.840 change the voting system. I ain't got the answers to, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.520 you know, how to make it where everyone is honored 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.600 in the proper way. And sometimes maybe it's two people 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.600 that should win. You know, who's to say who should win? 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.200 But I think I think it'd be a class thing 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.160 too because everybody people. You know, it carries more weight 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:15.560 if you win a Grammy than if you want to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:20.760 bet award. So we still go, say, says society, and 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.480 that's what this is about. This is this is why 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.520 this is why I respect this show, because this is 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.640 a voice to society. It is the voice I say, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.959 the barbershop, but this is the voice of the streets. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.679 And this is uh, you know, Grammys is uh it's 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.600 a statement of class and stuff. Like you go to 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.480 my house, I'm I'm I'm gonna hit the stunt mutton 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.320 for a second. You see my twenty one Grammy's laid 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.480 out that. You know, my wife forced me to take 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.320 out of the bathroom and put in one place. Uh, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.920 you know, get after Grammys because you could be selfish. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.000 You say, well, I got twenty one. So whatever. Yeah, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.559 I mean and I and I think I deserve one, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:10:02.280 but I U you know, it's all like I said, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.560 we was born unto a world separated by a class 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.360 uh and uh, race and religion. So class is one 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.760 of the things that people want. You want to be 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.640 upper class, you want to be first class. But in 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.719 a plane crash, everybody did it ain't no class and 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.280 it's just a whole crash. Uh. You know some of 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.839 the things when I first came up with the idea, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.880 Donda and I was tweeting out all these ideas airplane design, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.920 this design, this design, like you know, you see of 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.720 course like me and you know, uh, Kim, we can, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:37.280 we can take private but you know, we really, you know, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.800 we want to We want to be in the airport, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.719 We want to be next to the people. I get 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.480 inspiration when I when I see what people are wearing, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.120 I see a gat inspiration when I see what people 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.679 are going through, when people are like walking the line slower, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.240 getting padded down or whatever. That's you know. I gotta 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.920 tell you this one story about class. I was going 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.040 to London where I'm going to night um, and I 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.720 was in the first class line and it was real crowded, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.880 and I looked over at the coach line for customs 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.679 and it's completely empty. We went over to the coach 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.680 line and got through right away, and everybody was sitting 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.760 there with their ermas belts and their big hats. They 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.240 didn't want to lower their class in order to like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.480 get through faster when time is the only luxury, you 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.400 know what I'm saying. So it's a lot of stuff 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.440 that I've been learning over the past couple of years. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.640 And I used my money, in my position and my 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.000 relationships to learn about class. But my approach, I think 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.920 is a bit more uh robin hood now smoke ghetto, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.160 even though even though you're getting up in class and 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.160 still ratchet. Yeah, I guess you know, I mean, ghetto 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.439 was fun. I mean, yeah, I like I'm from Chicago. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.360 My wife got a big as you know what I'm saying, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.199 I'm staying stay ghetto. Did you reach out the beck 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.720 after them? Did you reach out the back after her? 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.440 I'm like, maybe I slipped up a little bit. Maybe 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.960 I went to Yes, I got his number and I 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.520 was supposed to call, but I just keep forgetting Waite. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.720 We didn't know. I thought Ben was a bit until 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.520 you jumped on. He was very humble about it though, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.000 because he agreed. He was like, yeah, I mean, it's Beyonce. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.520 You should have won. It wasn't like he disagreed with you. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.120 But I felt bad for him. No, I felt good 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.199 for him because thinking all the good stuff that happened 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.280 to me. You know the past. You know seven days, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.160 eight days, the person that won the most was back 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.839 because if I hadn't done that, his album of the 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.440 Year would have never been mentioned. Now it's in all 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.439 the chatter Kanye West messes up against Kanye West is 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.640 a dark year that you know, I'm already to the enemy. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.000 So you can't get no worse than the villain. You 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.679 have to be hurt to win an award and then 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.320 have all these people saying you shouldn't have won in 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.000 the bee Hive, going in and leaving negative, nasty comments 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.760 how terrible he is. Well, it's all subjective, though, Yeah, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.079 it is all subjective. But but you know he should 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.800 win an award for what he did rock album or 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.800 something like that. But he shouldn't have won that award 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.599 in my opinion. But who am I? Who am I 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:56.240 have opinion yet exactly if you don't respect to be rective. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.959 But one thing we're always asking the ball shot why 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.400 is why is Kanye always caping for Beyonce' I love Beyond. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.520 I'm gonna Pike Smith. You knows, Carter, but it seems 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.040 like you're always coming to her aid and no one 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.360 Beyond don't need no CAP's Beyonce. I know that's you know, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.360 that's it's really ironic that every time it's Beyonce for 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.120 some reason, it's like why, you know, why is it? 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.880 Why is it Beyonce? Why? You know? Why why don't 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.240 I go off phone? Like you know whoever? Going off 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.040 on my wife phone Twitter? And she's like, you know, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.320 why why do I cater? You know, you know it's 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.280 I think Beyonce is a great representation of an artist 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.439 working hard and trying her best and getting the results 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.120 from it. You know, So say Beyonce's previous album wasn't 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.320 it as well received as this new album? And she 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.840 got low like I got low on my new album. Uh, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.720 and and deliver something that everybody loved. And if you 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.080 in America, if we want, we have to we have 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.880 to respect greatness when we see it. And we can't 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.280 smack it in the face at the at the cost 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.720 of some vote, spitting at the cost so like blowing 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.840 somebody up that could sell some T shirts. If you 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.440 see something that's great, you gotta respect it. I remember 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.640 I was trying to get on the basketball team fighth grade. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.280 I hit every free though, hit every layup, and I 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:07.840 looked at the list and I wasn't on the list. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.200 And then the coach just gave me the Kanye shrug. Now, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:15.760 you know the basketball team come the school. You know, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:21.880 that's like the best thing because you get to leave school. Yeah, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.080 you're on a basketball team. We had a small gym 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.760 with like you're running to the Broadway stage, like you 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:33.720 hit the layup and stuff like, but hurt people, hurt people. Yeah, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:36.040 but you're not gonna make this basketball team. No. No, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.040 My point is you're not gonna have somebody hit all 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.000 the shots and you're not giving them that credit, you know. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.600 And I think a lot of times Beyonce exactly what 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.440 you say. You said, Beyonce don't even know help. People 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.520 look at Beyonce because she's h she's rich, respect the whole. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:56.400 She's a beautiful woman. Uh, she's talented. Uh, and so 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.920 they figured she's got everything, so you don't even need 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.000 nothing else. But I think she needs to proper accolates 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:07.360 because she's an inspiration in that Album of the Year, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.400 I guess I thought she did win that one when 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.200 year and now she I don't think she's ever won 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.440 an Album of the Year Grammy, and uh, I don't know. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.600 And this is funny because Taylor was talking to me 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.880 about this. She was saying that, you know, when she 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.360 was the victim, she won every award, and now that 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.200 she's powerful and the biggest selling artist, now she not 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.800 winning awards anymore because they're like, what do you need. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.240 It's once again, it's that moment where the rich people 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.040 are line is getting clogged up because it's a practical 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.600 joke that everybody in the airport, you know, playing on 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.520 rich people as they should because that's as rich people. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.320 Our focus shouldn't be on how we get a new fantom, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.280 how we get a bigger house. Our focus should be 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.720 on how do we help the middle to the lower 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.560 class to have a better life. And I think that 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.840 we get distracted with you know, luxury, so called luxury good, 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.520 so called luxury cards like and I embrace this. Anytime 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.200 a rich person gets it's taken out of them. It's cool, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:02.480 you know what I mean. I mean, don't don't do 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.840 it to me all the time and stuff. But you 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.320 know that's about because you always used to speak up, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.200 like when you said, George, don't care about black people 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.640 are speaking up for to have nuts. But now it 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.840 seems like you were just fighting for the civil rights 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:20.000 with rich people. Later. Yeah, yeah, I think it's the 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.880 rights of everyone, you know. And another thing that I 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.000 used to get really caught up on was with race, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.560 you know, with racists, Like, Okay, we know, we know 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.280 it's racist people. You know, we know that a lot 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.960 of white men over the age of sixty racists. We 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.040 embrace that. You know, we know that a lot of 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.280 people that are in power, you know, don't really you know, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.760 they like they're like Donald Sterling. We understand that, we 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.440 know that. But the world is moving. You know, ten 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.080 years from now, twenty years from now, every every uh, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.840 you know, person of color or female or any minority 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.680 that comes into power will eventually shifted. You know, you 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.040 got the ozone later, you got all this stuff. You see, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.760 a one hundred years from now, the entire world might 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.360 be black just to even survive on the Earth period. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.320 Right now, you mentioned you know you stood up for Beyonce. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.120 People ask you know you're standing for Beyonce. You stand 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.800 up for more than might be your stand up for 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.600 your own wife. Recently, people have been going at your 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.040 wife crazy from the paper magazine cover. It was like, well, 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:16.960 why would she do that? She has money? Is it 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.359 just for fame? Is it just for Instagram? If it 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.760 just for attention? You know, even Amber Rose came on 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.880 the program a couple of days ago and said your 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.040 wife was fake. How do you reply to all these people? 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.000 And what do you say to everybody? Because even with 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.240 us we were seen her on the cover, it was 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.679 kind of like, you know, Kim is filthy. You know, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.560 she has a child, she has a family. Why would 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.080 she do that cover? Which which question? Okay, seven question. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.120 Uh whoa um. One of the things of breaking class 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.520 is respected art can break class. So one of the 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.320 things that shut up a lot of people is the 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.479 fact that John Paul Gou took the photograph that used 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.239 to shoot Grace Stones and Grace Stones figure physique was 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:04.280 as as new and different as Kim's physique was. And 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.680 you know, our position of power, we're not going to 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.080 accept the you know, the physique that was that was 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.040 given to us. You know that that was told to 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.719 us was the proper, you know, way to look. You know, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.880 my my daughter has a chance of being shape like 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.399 my wife. So until she between this age and to 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.240 the age where she's like that, I'm going to be 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.360 fighting for that shape to be considered the highest of class, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.240 or not the highest class, at least equal to what 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.240 someone looks at like a skinny a skinny model for uh. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.320 My first introduction, one of my first introductions to beauty 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.320 was the Helmet Newton book, This really big book, and 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.560 every woman in it was uh naked. This was a 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.440 straight photographer. He did he did Playboy, and he would 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.680 do Saint Laurent ads and the highest level taste. And 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.480