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Speaker 1: First of all, a nationwide freak out over campus protests,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about these campus protests in particular.

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Speaker 1: This is pro Palestine and Procese fire protests which are

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Speaker 3: Who has gone very viral. I guess it was. It's

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Speaker 2: He has made himself a main character absolutely, Okay, So

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Speaker 2: Where are we going with Shihi Dividi? Shi Dividi?

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Speaker 8: This is an important topic. This is not just about Columbia.

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Speaker 3: Well, Shai, I hate to break it to you.

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Speaker 2: I know that in your country, Israel, that signs may

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Speaker 4: Now with regard to shy. Again, it's a free country.

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Speaker 1: are terrorists. Put this up on the screen. This is outrageous.

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Speaker 1: So he had tweeted out, this is what's happening at

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Speaker 1: Columbia right now. I know it's confusing, so let me

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Speaker 1: spell it out for you. A. Terrorism is an ideology.

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Speaker 1: B they are openly supporting terror C they are terrorists.

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Speaker 1: Terrorists have taken over Columbia University. The government needs to

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Speaker 1: take over Colombia. Now think about that in the context

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Speaker 1: of the number of right wingers who are celebrating a

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Speaker 1: government takeover and demanding a government takeover. National Guard to

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Speaker 1: come into censor students. Okay, put that aside. This is

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Speaker 1: important repost. If you agree, the government of Israel takes

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Speaker 1: him up on that repost. If you agree, call and

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Speaker 1: reiterates his terrorism is an ideology. Either openly supporting terror

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Speaker 1: they are terrorists. The government of Israel calling American students

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Speaker 1: protesting on campus, exercising their First Amendment free speech rights, terrorists.

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Speaker 4: It is so despicable, It is so disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what it again illustrates is that Israel a

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Speaker 2: nation which just the other day President Herzog, their president,

454
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Speaker 2: came out and said Americans should stay out of Israeli politics.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I agree, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: That so why we shouldn't pay you at all?

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Speaker 1: But why don't you say they got their hand down

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean, more weapons, more billions.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that trade any day you guys want, But

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Speaker 2: then you got to stay out of our politics. Oh

461
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Speaker 2: but on that one, it doesn't really matter as much.

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Speaker 2: It's like that is what actually again just bugs the

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Speaker 2: crap out of me about this. I mean, what they

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Speaker 2: the problem to is what people never learn is that

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna, you know, try and put down the

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Speaker 2: boot or that you better go all out because if

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Speaker 2: you don't, you know what's going to happen, You're going

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Speaker 2: to have a widespread reaction. And sure enough, it's already happening.

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Speaker 2: Let's put this up there on the screen. Just yesterday

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Speaker 2: we saw Yale University students who were arrested at their

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Speaker 2: protest again over a BDS investment in arms manufacturing. You've

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Speaker 2: got multiple other campuses now where you see similar things

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Speaker 2: that are beginning to break out.

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Speaker 3: And I actually I will say this too.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very smart strategy on part of

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Speaker 2: these students, because this is the other thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: these traffic people and all that.

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Speaker 3: We've had our debate.

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Speaker 2: I think it's idiotic, stupid, counterproductive, and obviously they're also

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Speaker 2: just going to get arrested in the first place. But

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Speaker 2: if you're on a university squad, there is no actual

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Speaker 2: plausible way that you could say you're really like affecting

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Speaker 2: a lot of other people when you're on university private Produm.

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Speaker 2: Maybe public university is gonna be different because then you're

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Speaker 2: I think technically in terms of how the law and

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Speaker 2: all that. But it's for Columbia University, for any of

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Speaker 2: these other places, especially if you are again an active

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Speaker 2: student there and you have certain privileges of what you're

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Speaker 2: allowed and allowed not to exercise, especially whenever it comes

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Speaker 2: to First Amendment rights, it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: more difficult for people to go after them. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think what we are going to

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Speaker 2: see is there's a couple of options, which is people

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Speaker 2: could try and quote unquote de escalate.

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Speaker 3: I don't really see that as possibility.

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Speaker 2: All of the money and institutional pressure is one way,

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Speaker 2: which is on a crackdown. I think what is going

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Speaker 2: to happen is that Columbia no university can withstand it's

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Speaker 2: multi billionaire donors and entire alumni base freaking out at

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Speaker 2: them on a consistent basis. Look at how every single

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Speaker 2: one of those Ivy League universities you know, fired their

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Speaker 2: presidents or whatever for saying that the genocide against calling

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Speaker 2: for the genocide against the Jews is not a violation

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Speaker 2: of the student whatever harassment policy. They all caved, right,

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Speaker 2: they actually created more speech codes on campus. So I

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Speaker 2: believe that in that effect is that there will be

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Speaker 2: a epic crackdown, and it's going to come soon.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see how it could possibly turn out otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think we've already seen the results of

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Speaker 1: the first waves of crackdowns. I mean, we've now had

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Speaker 1: arrest on multiple college campuses, including a fact members at NYU,

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Speaker 1: and it has only sparked a wider movement. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is poor gasoline on the fire because other students who

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Speaker 1: and and by the way, sentiment on Columbia University is

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Speaker 1: also pulling the other day. It's overwhelmingly in favor of

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Speaker 1: what these protesters support. Sure, so the attempt to crack down,

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Speaker 1: the arrest, the media coverage, all of this has only

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Speaker 1: allowed the movement to grow. So you know, that's the

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Speaker 1: other thing that's crazy to me, is like they're acting

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Speaker 1: like the Columbia University president and is some great friend

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Speaker 1: of these protesters, and just like allowing them to run wild.

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Speaker 4: She suspended a whole bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: She called in the NYPD, who again was like, these

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Speaker 1: people are all one hundred percent peaceful, But NYPD said

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Speaker 1: that to arrest one hundred of them, it's not like

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Speaker 1: there's been kid gloves here, okay. So and what happened

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Speaker 1: when she attempted that, you know, hard fisted crackdown is

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Speaker 1: a huge backlash that just spawned even greater protests, not

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Speaker 1: only at Columbia, but even further. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: claim that this isn't going to have a negative impact

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Speaker 1: on the movement, because some people will see the clips

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Speaker 1: on a contest, they'll seep the media freak count, and

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Speaker 1: they'll be persuaded that, you know, some number of these

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Speaker 1: students or all of these students or.

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Speaker 4: Whatever are motivated by hatred.

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Speaker 1: Of Jews, in spite of the fact again that there

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Speaker 1: are so many Jewish students who are involved with or

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Speaker 1: actively organizing these protests. It just makes me absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of, you know, the size of the

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Speaker 1: protest movement, I think we're only seeing it grow and

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Speaker 1: expand the more that they try to arrest, crackdown, suspend, etc.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of the media.

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Speaker 1: Piece, We've got a little compilation for you of the

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Speaker 1: way the media has bought into this the protests or

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Speaker 1: anti semitic line, hook line and sinker. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: listen to a little bit of that.

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Speaker 10: By the way, they are both professors and students within

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Speaker 10: the university who say things that I think crossed the line,

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Speaker 10: and there should be accountability I believe in free speech.

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Speaker 10: Say whatever you want, but pay the consequences and don't

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Speaker 10: have your face covered. I don't think that should be allowed.

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Speaker 3: These are not protesters. These are violent hate monitors.

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Speaker 11: The things that are coming out of the mouth burn

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Speaker 11: down Tel Aviv, tel Aviv genocide October seventh. We did

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Speaker 11: it once, We'll do it ten times. We'll do one

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Speaker 11: hundred times, We'll do it a thousand times, We'll do

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Speaker 11: it ten thousand times. This is an atrocity. And I'm

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Speaker 11: going to say the quid put out loud. If there

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Speaker 11: was any group spewing hate and violence against any other

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Speaker 11: group Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, gaze.

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Speaker 3: It would be shut down.

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Speaker 11: And this needs to be shut down immediately because and

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Speaker 11: once again those groups are back, those tenths are back up,

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Speaker 11: and this cannot go unanswered.

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Speaker 3: It's very simple, and you know there's a continuum of protesters.

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Speaker 11: There's a heinous, anti violent ones that spewing hatreds, spewing death,

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Speaker 11: if you will, and then there's the less malignant that

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Speaker 11: say cease fire.

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Speaker 3: But even ceasefire doesn't have the word piece in it.

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Speaker 11: Never do you hear the word piece because this site

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Speaker 11: doesn't want peace.

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Speaker 3: It wants a gihad.

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Speaker 11: And this is not propostinting, and this is anti Israel,

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Speaker 11: and anti Israel is a misnomer because it's really anti jew.

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Speaker 12: And I'll even go further, it's not almost anti Senmitism.

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Speaker 12: It is anti Semitism. And this is something that is

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Speaker 12: on display right now. But the sort of roots of

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Speaker 12: this kind of devolving from A to B go back millennia.

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Speaker 12: And this is something the roots of anti Semitism that

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Speaker 12: pop up in societies that frankly tend to be a

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Speaker 12: Canarian the coal mine for a society and democracy.

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Speaker 4: In this case that is in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 12: Is I like to look at this and replace Jews

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Speaker 12: with any other minority group here, and what would the

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Speaker 12: entire country be doing?

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Speaker 3: They would be outraged, rightly.

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Speaker 13: So, So obviously, as you note, protest is an important

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Speaker 13: part of being an American. Free speech is an important

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Speaker 13: part of being an American. Where is the line? For example,

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Speaker 13: I've seen video of somebody at the Gaza Encampment at

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Speaker 13: Columbia standing up and talking about how great October seventh

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Speaker 13: Hamas attacks on Israel was and calling the Hamas terrorists,

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Speaker 13: calling them freedom fighters. Is that hate speech or is

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Speaker 13: that protected free speech? Where do you come down on that?

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Speaker 14: And that is believe it or not as vile as

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Speaker 14: it could be, because Hamas should be destroyed from the

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Speaker 14: actions they did on October seventh and other actions, But

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Speaker 14: that does not fall into a crime. If someone makes

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Speaker 14: a comment that they want to join a terrorist organization,

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Speaker 14: that's going to come under investigation. But the Commissioner of

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Speaker 14: Legal Matters at New York City Police Department is going

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Speaker 14: to really break this down for New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's a lot going on there isn't

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Speaker 1: there At least Eric Adams had to inform Jake Taber like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's actually not illegal.

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Speaker 3: Well what did he say? May believe it, you may

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Speaker 3: not believe it.

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Speaker 1: But actually people can say things even that are offensive,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, you're a journalist, Jake Tapper, you don't know

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Speaker 1: the basics of the freaking First Amendment. Listen, even if

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Speaker 1: you say something incredibly offensive, incredibly racist like horrific. Know

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Speaker 1: the clip he's talking about too, which he mischaracterizes, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: put that aside. Even if it's as represented, it's not

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Speaker 1: even a borderline case.

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Speaker 4: It's not close. I just listen, Donnie Deutschen there, His

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Speaker 4: was probably the worst.

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Speaker 1: It's in atrocity, a rally chant that you don't like

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Speaker 1: calling for ceasefire. It's a atrocity, he says, because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the word peace in it.

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Speaker 6: Are you I just?

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Speaker 1: And the erasure, the erasure of all of the Jewish

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Speaker 1: students who are involved here just makes me insane because

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Speaker 1: they keep conflating. They accuse these protesters of doing it,

624
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Speaker 1: but they're the ones doing it. Conflating all Jewish people

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Speaker 1: with the State of Israel and the government of Israel

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Speaker 1: and their actions, that is actually anti Semitic, okay, especially

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Speaker 1: when you have many, especially young Jewish Americans, who are

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Speaker 1: appalled by the actions of this government and you want

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Speaker 1: to associate them with a government that again is plausibly

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Speaker 1: committing a genocide in Gaza's strip. And what impact do

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Speaker 1: you think that's going to have If you force every

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Speaker 1: Jewish person to be conflated with the State of Israel,

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Speaker 1: that is not condoning but predictably going to lead to

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Speaker 1: a rise in anti Semitism.

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Speaker 4: It's just makes me so insane.

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Speaker 1: And then Robert Kraft there at the beginning you mentioned

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Speaker 1: him before, Yeah, that's probably the most consequential comments that

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Speaker 1: we played.

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Speaker 4: Here's a billionaire donor, very.

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Speaker 1: Influential in Republican political circles in particular, but political circles

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Speaker 1: in general, very influential at cub University because he's given

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Speaker 1: oodles of money, I don't know how much to the school,

643
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Speaker 1: saying he's pulling his donations and he believes in free.

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Speaker 4: Speech, but but not when he disagrees with it, then

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Speaker 4: he doesn't believe.

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Speaker 2: Part of what bugs me about a lot of this

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Speaker 2: analysis is it presumes that it's also okay. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's controversial, but you know, even if white supremacists

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Speaker 2: were on campus, as long as it's not hurting anybody,

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Speaker 2: it is free speech.

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Speaker 4: To you, like the right like thing being you know,

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Speaker 4: being issued.

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Speaker 1: It was very controversial ACLU, and they sort of like

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Speaker 1: for each other apart. But that is like, that is

655
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Speaker 1: the foundations, even things that are blatantly wrong, racist, anti

656
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Speaker 1: something like, even if they were, and that's a mischaracterization

657
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Speaker 1: of what's going on here. That's when the First Amendment

658
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: actually comes important. When it's things that people agree, when

659
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: they're comfortable with them, you don't need it.

660
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Speaker 2: They're like, well, if they were saying the same thing

661
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Speaker 2: about Jews or a or about Asians or Blacks, I'm like, well,

662
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: you know, but I'm South Asian, right or Indian? I

663
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Speaker 2: guess the South Asian is a controversial term. Here's a

664
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Speaker 2: good example. If there was a there's like seekh separatists

665
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: who are really big in America, and this drives Indian

666
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: people absolutely crazy, especially the Indian government. And if there

667
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Speaker 2: was a seek protest whenever I was going to college,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: What I would do. I would walk past and i

670
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Speaker 3: would go to the library and live.

671
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Speaker 2: My life because I'd be like, first of all, I'm

672
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Speaker 2: born here, I'm not from India. Second of all, I

673
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Speaker 2: don't give a shit about seek separatists. But that's, you know,

674
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Speaker 2: I guess more personal to me. Let's like turn up

675
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: the let's turn it up even more. Let's say that

676
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: there is a anti what Like, there's a whole thing

677
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: going on right now with a title not nine or

678
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: whatever with the women's sports and trans and all that,

679
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: and there's even college athletes that have been speaking out

680
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Speaker 2: against that. If there was a pro keep women in

681
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: women's sports rally on campus, I'd be like, yeah, absolutely,

682
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: you have to support it, and I have no doubt

683
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: also that all of these other people would certainly also

684
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Speaker 2: they would call for a crackdown there, and they would

685
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: think that that is correct. So that's another thing where

686
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: we have to not buy Dana Bash and a lot

687
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: of the media framing here, which is they're like, imagine

688
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: if and RFK Junior said.

689
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: This too whenever he was here.

690
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: We were talking about the university presidents, and he's like,

691
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: imagine if they'd said that about blacks.

692
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: I'd be like, well, okay, I mean it's free country.

693
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't necessarily agree with it, but hey,

694
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: like you got to be allowed to be able to

695
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Speaker 2: say whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend like there aren't actual neo Nazi protests

697
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: that happen. They're like sort of pathetic, you know, there

698
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: was something that happened, like in Florida. They're pathetic and

699
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: people find them disgusting, but the White House isn't putting

700
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Speaker 1: on a statement on them. So I actually think it's

701
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Speaker 1: all that should either yea, No, I think it's a

702
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: polar opposite. Actually, I think there's much more of a

703
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Speaker 1: reaction to people, you know, calling for divestment and listen again,

704
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: if you don't like the rally chance, that's fine. You

705
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: can be a friend of the rally chance, but you're not.

706
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: It's not violence, it's not doesn't deserve the National Guard

707
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: coming in and a crack. It's non atrocity. You want

708
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: to see an atrocity, look at anything coming out of

709
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip every single day if you want to

710
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: know what an actual atrocity is. So, since we aren't

711
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: at Columbia and neither are any of those idiots that

712
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: we just showed you opining on what's happening there, thought

713
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: we would bring you a thread of someone who actually

714
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Speaker 1: was on the Columbia campus talking about what they witnessed.

715
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: So we can sort a little bit of fact from

716
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Speaker 1: fiction here on what's actually going on. Let's put this

717
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: up on the screen. So this is Alejandra Ramos. She

718
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: really works for the Today Show. But she says, listen

719
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Speaker 1: to my usual TVV is food. But I'm also a

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Speaker 1: current Columbia student, and I'm so sad and so frustrated

721
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Speaker 1: with the way student protests on our campus are being reported.

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Speaker 4: This will be imperfect, but.

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Speaker 1: I can't watch things that are so contrary to what

724
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Speaker 1: I've actually seen and stay silent.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead to the next one.

726
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Speaker 1: I'm concerned by the reports broadcasting from outside our campus

727
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: gates with foot shot almost entirely off campus. Look closely

728
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: at the videos. If there are stores, subway stops, close

729
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: gates in the background, et cetera. This is not an

730
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: on campus protest. This context matters. Continuing to the next one.

731
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Speaker 1: Campus access is limited to those of us with Columbia

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Speaker 1: I d's. The protesters on sidewalks, peaceful or otherwise, are

733
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Speaker 1: mostly those who are not allowed to enter. Vile agitators

734
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Speaker 1: screaming at students from outside campus are not Columbia students, and.

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Speaker 4: This must be made clear in reports.

736
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Speaker 1: Continue on reports that only show zoom interviews with students

737
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: sharing one perspective feel irresponsible to me. How can you

738
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Speaker 1: report on protests without interviewing a single protester? Why are

739
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: their voices being excluded when there are so many of

740
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Speaker 1: them willing to speak? And of course we all know

741
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: the answer to that saga of why their voices are

742
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: excluded by the way, Emily and Ryan have an interview

743
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: set for tomorrow with one of the protest organizers at

744
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Speaker 1: Columbia who, apparently when Ryan was in touch with her,

745
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: she was busy buying the items that they need for

746
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: their passover Sator dinner. So yeah, well know, there you go,

747
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: some real anti Sabitic stuff going on there, that is it.

748
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Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, I think that we should hear it out.

749
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Speaker 2: I've done a lot of research, you know, I'm not

750
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: necessarily predisposed to be like loving these people. Everything I

751
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: have not found, you know, anything I find like particularly

752
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: all that objectionable. And if you were to take a

753
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: zoomed out view of this, I would just say, like,

754
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: like you said, if you're offended by protest, chance, that's fine,

755
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, grow up.

756
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you.

757
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: I live in an area where I disagree with like

758
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of my neighbors, and it's annoying, you know,

759
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: walking by those dumb ass signs that are like in

760
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: this house, we believe racist, you know, whatever signs is real.

761
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Speaker 3: Et cetera.

762
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Speaker 2: I'm a bit bombarded with George Floyd's face for the

763
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: last four years, trans flags and all this other nonsense.

764
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Speaker 3: Do I like it?

765
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Speaker 12: No?

766
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Speaker 3: But you know what, I just live. That's what you do.

767
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Speaker 2: That's like, That's why I don't understand why it is

768
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Speaker 2: so difficult to you know, live in an area like

769
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Speaker 2: that lady the Campbell Brown saying that she literally thinks

770
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Speaker 2: she's safer in Israel, well then in the West Side.

771
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: And you know my other response, if you believe that,

772
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Speaker 2: then Leaf just leave, because honestly, if you think that

773
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: a country where you've evacuated like two hundred thousand people

774
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: of your population from freaking rocket attacks and you're in

775
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: the middle of a war and you just had Iranian

776
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: drones come to your soil and where they had to

777
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: be shot down out of the sky by the US military,

778
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 2: if you think that is safer than the United States

779
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: of America, and you, honestly you shouldn't be here.

780
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: That's my actual response to this.

781
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so preposterous. Do you know I also

782
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: used to live on the Upper West Side. I lived

783
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: in all kinds of places in Manhattan. And do you

784
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: know how many like happy, successful Jewish people there are.

785
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: My daughter went to a JCC preschool there.

786
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: Like it's just it's so delusional. I don't even know

787
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: what to say about it.

788
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: Like it's honestly, like the desire to like this shy,

789
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: DIVIDI character, like the desire to put himself in the

790
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: center of this, the you know, quest for this intense victimhood. Again,

791
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: you cannot like what they're protesting, can you know, find it?

792
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: That's all fine, But you're.

793
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Speaker 4: A grown man like Deally.

794
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: You don't have anything else more important in your life

795
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: than not liking the rally chant of these students who

796
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Speaker 1: you're there to teach.

797
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what to say about it.

798
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Very stupid.

799
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: All right.

800
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Donald Trump the his trial opening statements.

801
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: All that stuff happened yesterday. Let's put this up on

802
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the screen. We got a little bit of some of

803
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: the synopsis. Here is the New York Times opening statements

804
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: in Trump's criminal trial.

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Speaker 4: Five takeaways. Let me read you a little bit of

806
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Speaker 4: their report.

807
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Speaker 1: Remember there are no TV cameras a lot in the courtroom,

808
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: although they are releasing full transcripts after the fact, which

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: is appreciated anyway. They write, the charges faced by mister

810
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Trump may sound bland, falsifying business records doesn't really set

811
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: the heart racing, but the prosecution made clear on Monday

812
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: it plans on painting a much broader picture. Matthew Colangelo, prosecutor,

813
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: laid down in his opening statement a tale that touched

814
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: on tabloid journalism, tawdry affairs, covertly recorded phone calls. Jurors

815
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: will likely be told about events inside fancy hotel rooms.

816
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: Trump towered even the Oval Office, and the stakes the presidency.

817
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: For the defense side, mister Trump's lead lawyer, Todd Blanche,

818
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: used his opening statement to cast mister Trump's actions leading

819
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: to this case as run of the mill business. Said,

820
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: mister Trump is defending himself at trial, just as any

821
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: of us would do. He argued the use of a

822
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: non disclosure agreement, the document that Stormy Daniels signed after

823
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: receiving the payment, was typical among the wealthy and famous.

824
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: End quote nothing illegal.

825
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Speaker 1: He continued, there was nothing wrong with trying to influence

826
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Speaker 1: an election, adding it's called democracy. He also in this

827
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: was notable and predicted, but aggressively attacked mister Cohen. Michael Cohen,

828
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Speaker 1: former lawyer and fixer for mister Trump, said mister Cohen,

829
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Speaker 1: who pleaded guilty to federal campaign finance crimes in twenty eighteen,

830
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: was a criminal who can't be trusted. At its Stormy

831
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: Daniels was biased against mister Trump and made a living

832
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: off her story about the sexual encounter and called the

833
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: heart of the prosecution case just thirty four pieces of

834
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: paper that don't involve mister Trump. So you can see

835
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: the you know, they're both trying to tell his story

836
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: right in one story. This is an elaborate, potentially election

837
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: defining cover up, you know, a criminal conspiracy where there

838
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: was a hush money payment that was made in you know,

839
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: under illicited circumstances. And the crime they can get them

840
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: on is these falsifying and business records, basically lying about

841
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Speaker 1: what the payments were for in an attempt to hide

842
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: from the American public. What was going on the other

843
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: side is saying, listen, this is standard business. It was Yeah,

844
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: he was trying to win an election. That's not illegal,

845
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: it's not a crime. It's just what politicians do. Nothing

846
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: to see here, it's just you know, thirty four business records.

847
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: No big deal. So and then also the trying to

848
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: undermine some of the.

849
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: Key witnesses is going to be a key part of

850
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: this and Saga I mentioned this yesterday when we talked

851
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: about this. There's an interaction in particular between Michael Cohen

852
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: and Trump that Cohen claims occurred in the White House

853
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: and part of this is you know, how much did

854
00:42:59,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Trump know?

855
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: How was he in all of this?

856
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: And that's a critical piece because you know, if it's

857
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Speaker 1: a he said, he said, and they can really undermine

858
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: the credibility of Michael Cohen. You know, that's obviously going

859
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: to be important for their case. And obviously a lot

860
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: of this also comes down to the jurors and how

861
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: unbiased they can be and how they feel about Donald

862
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Trump and all of us.

863
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Huge, Yeah, up to the jurors. Also up to whether

864
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Speaker 2: we believe Michael Cohen. We're going to get to mister

865
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Speaker 2: Cohen here in a little bit in terms of his

866
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: own credibility. And it also comes to the felony interpretation,

867
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Speaker 2: right about how business records classify under US law or

868
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Speaker 2: under New York law, and whether this was an intentional,

869
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Speaker 2: like vast criminal conspiracy in addition to election interference. We

870
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: do have some video of Trump who after the courtroom,

871
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 2: where he spoke to reporters. Let's take a listen.

872
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 9: But the point here is that the judge had no

873
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 9: idea what was happening. And this is the same judge

874
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 9: that two months ago made a ruling that shook the world.

875
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 9: It shook the world everyone knows. Going to that trail,

876
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 9: I did nothing wrong, and over here I did nothing wrong.

877
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 11: Also, this is a Biden witch hunt to keep me

878
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 11: off the campaign trail.

879
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 10: Now, what are they going to look at comorans and

880
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 10: what commerants did, because that's bad stuff.

881
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 6: And what are they going to look at.

882
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: All the lies that Colin.

883
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 9: Did in the last trial.

884
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: He got caught lined in the last trial. So he

885
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: got caught lined, pure line.

886
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 8: And what are they going to look at that?

887
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what we've got. He's going after Michael Cohen.

888
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: But Crystal, Michael Cole is not doing himself any favors.

889
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: We're trying to remain unbiased.

890
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 9: Is he not well?

891
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: Yesterday we reported on some.

892
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: Some liberal fans fiction.

893
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: About Trump's flatulence is farting and passing out in court

894
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: according to the lips. Now, the sleeping part, I think

895
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: is pretty well sleeping big. That's real farting part unconfirmed,

896
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: we'll say so. Anyway, Cohen getting in on the lib

897
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: train with the situation. Let's put this up on the screen.

898
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: He tweeted, Hey, von shitz in pants, your attacks of

899
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: me stink of desperation. We are all hoping that you

900
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: take the stand in your defense. So there you go,

901
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: that's the case.

902
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's me.

903
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: And when you're trying to establish your creudit, I was gonna.

904
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: Say, you're trying to establish your credibility and you are.

905
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: Now you are a convicted liar. This is the other

906
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: thing that always tries to create with Michael Cohen. Michael

907
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Cohen was one of the most craven Trump sick of

908
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: fans for years until Trump screwed him and refused to

909
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: pay his legal bills. Right, and then he gets convicted

910
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: in court, okay, and then he turns into some resistance liberal.

911
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 3: He met with Kanye West. I remember at some point

912
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: he's just been you know.

913
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: Writing books, just saw on the griff train ever since

914
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: he had to sign uh what ever, since he served

915
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: in federal prison. And now he the reason he's acting

916
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: this way is because his income and his life depend

917
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: on it, especially in the future future MSNBC appearances. Just

918
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: so everybody knows, what's her name. Rachel matt was actually

919
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: in the court yesterday. I mean, this is her superse

920
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: This is literally her Super Bowl.

921
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 1: Did you see the Michael Avenatti. Of course, of course,

922
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: now he's he's now he's back on Trump's I mean

923
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: it is. We do have to comment though, on the

924
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: cast of characters that Donald Trump himself has surrounded himself with,

925
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: including Michael Cohen. So okay, let's get to who they

926
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: did actually call. There was a very brief amount of time.

927
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Apparently a juror had a medical issue they had to

928
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: deal with, so they called the prosecution, called their first witness.

929
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: Put up what element is that? The third one? Yeah,

930
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: put up this tear sheet from the Washington Post. Who

931
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: is David Packer, first witness and Trump New York hush

932
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: money case. This is the guy who was the owner,

933
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: is the owner of the National Inquirer. And he, you know,

934
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: he's an interesting character. Actually, just to hear what he

935
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: has to say separate and apart from this case is

936
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of kind of interesting. He talked some of some

937
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: of the sort of trade secrets of the tabloid business,

938
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: talking about what he calls checkbook journalism, meaning you pay

939
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: for stories, saying listen, anything over ten k they had

940
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: to get an official approval from me, also saying listen,

941
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: in this business, I know that the only thing that

942
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: matters is the cover.

943
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: It's the front page. That's it.

944
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that matters. He testified for less

945
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: than thirty minutes. But you know this is a man.

946
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: He's a former publisher by the way of the National

947
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: enquired just to get his title straight. He has a

948
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: lot to say about long time interactions with Donald Trump,

949
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: and this isn't really disputed. They use this method called

950
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: quote unquote quote catch and kill, where he would buy

951
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: up a story that's unflattering to Trump and then he

952
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: would not run it. So he did that in two

953
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: instances that we know of. One with the former Playboy models.

954
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Who's Karen McDougall.

955
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: Who is that right?

956
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: And I got her name right right, No, that's right,

957
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Karen McDougal, who claimed with some evidence that she had

958
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: an affair with Trump.

959
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: He bought that story, didn't run it.

960
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: And then this less credible and I think not true

961
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: story about a Dorman and Trump Tower who claimed that

962
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: someone Trump had an affair with it was a mistress

963
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: that had an abortion.

964
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: So both of those stories he killed.

965
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: The allegations are that they Stormy Daniels came to him

966
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: with this story and she was asking too much money.

967
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: So rather than the National Inquirer themselves doing the catch

968
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: and kill, they sent this alerted Michael Cohen. He comes

969
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: into play arranging these payments, figuring out how to do

970
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: it in a way that's not going to be public.

971
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: And that's sort of the backstory of this whole situation.

972
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: So in any case, David Pecker is an interesting character

973
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: and certainly has some compelling information with regard to this case.

974
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: So it's not a huge.

975
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Surprise that he would be the first individual to take

976
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: the stand on the prosecution's behalf.

977
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

978
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean it all comes back to the quote unquote

979
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: catch and kill scheme where Pecker what is an American

980
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: media man.

981
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: I can't believe. I still even remember.

982
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: They go and they pay for the story, and they

983
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: keep it in their vault, and then it's a big

984
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: question about election interference. As you said, it's a question

985
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 2: also about whether this is legal, especially to the extent

986
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: about the way that Trump paid her paid him. If

987
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Trump had just paid Michael Cohen out of his own

988
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: personal account, then none of this would have been a story.

989
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: But of course they tried to write it off on

990
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: some FEC thing as an election expense. That then goes

991
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: back as to whether it was FEC fraud. That's eventually

992
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: what Michael Cohen pleads guilty to. Now, this case goes

993
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: to the question again of falsifying business wrecords in New

994
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: York as a felony.

995
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: With the novel interpretation, the jurors have to buy that

996
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: to buy.

997
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 2: The felony falsification, they have to buy the broader scheme

998
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: that happened as world trumpling.

999
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: The campaign finance piece in particular, I think, is what's required.

1000
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: For it to be a felony.

1001
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: Right, So, and yeah, that is basically Alvin Bragg is

1002
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: charging under the theory that Trump committed a federal felony crime,

1003
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: even though that federal felony crime was never actually prosecuted

1004
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: by the Feds. This is I believe, and as we

1005
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: saw a little bit in the Trump defense, this is

1006
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: going to also be a key part of creating reasonable doubt.

1007
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: As to why they should not vote to a quit.

1008
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: And you know, the more I've been thinking about it,

1009
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: especially with that one guy who said he admired Trump,

1010
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: I think the likelihood of a hung jury in this

1011
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: is a lot higher than people might have led on. Yeah,

1012
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: just because of the novel interpretation that you know the details,

1013
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: and you really only got to convince one person that

1014
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: you're just going a step too far, which is reasonable

1015
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: enough in my opinion that you don't get a conviction.

1016
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: So the more I've been looking and thinking about it,

1017
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: I think Trump is a lot better shot here than

1018
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: people might have given him a credible.

1019
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 4: I think that's entirely possible.

1020
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what the jury is going to

1021
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: find ultimately, but the campaign finance piece is an important

1022
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: part of that, because what the Trump team is likely

1023
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: to say is, like, listen, this wasn't about hiding this

1024
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: from the American public.

1025
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: He didn't want his wife to know, right, you know,

1026
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: there were other reasons.

1027
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Probably there are other reasons why he didn't want this

1028
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: story to come to light, and it had nothing to

1029
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: do with deceiving the American people. Now, you know, is

1030
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: there are there conversations that would test that would you know,

1031
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: be a.

1032
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 4: Testament to a different interpretation?

1033
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Are there, you know, conversations that he had where he's

1034
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: directly saying like, we got to keep this from the

1035
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: American people, And who cares what Malania thinks? What sort

1036
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: of things are going to come to light? We don't know,

1037
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: We don't know how the jury's going to interpret any

1038
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: of this, so we shall see. Let's put this last

1039
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: piece up on the screen. One of the interesting things

1040
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: that David Packard is very brief testimony yes dreams expected

1041
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: to continue today, said that he had two email accounts,

1042
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: one for matters I didn't want my assistant to see, which, again,

1043
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: is this kind of funny insight into the way that

1044
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: he ran his business.

1045
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: And being a very interesting character at the heart of this.

1046
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1047
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: That's what we know thus far about the Trump trial.

1048
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: Keep everybody updated.

1049
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: I know it can be boring, but it's one of

1050
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: those where the details matter so much because of the

1051
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: implication and who knows what.

1052
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: Wild twists and turns, mister von Hitchens that we will

1053
00:51:59,360 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: get out of it.

1054
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, nonetheless, we will at least get the diaper don thing,

1055
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: which I was not aware of, and now I'm deeply

1056
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: invested in in terms of conspiracy theory. At the same time,

1057
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: we don't want to take our eye off of RFK Junior.

1058
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: There's been some major developments and a major sign also

1059
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: that the Biden campaign certainly sees him as a threat.

1060
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: They trotted out all living Kennedy family relatives who were

1061
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: willing to come and endorse him.

1062
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen. My name is Joe Kennedy.

1063
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm Kerry Kennedy, Flory Kennedy, Kathin Kennedy, Townsend.

1064
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 9: Chris Kennedy, and I'm here to proudly endorse Joe Biden.

1065
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: Biden.

1066
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 8: Joe Biden.

1067
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 11: Our future is on the ballot in a way in

1068
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 11: which we haven't seen in generations.

1069
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 15: The only way to win this selection is for everybody

1070
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 15: to go out and vote for Joe Biden and come alas.

1071
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: What I think of modern politicians in our country in

1072
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: this century. I think Joe Biden is the RFK of

1073
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: his generation.

1074
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 6: Believes in democracy, believes in human rights, believes in the freedoms.

1075
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: Is a president who embodies the Kennedy legacy.

1076
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, let me just say this.

1077
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: He believes in the freedom scra Do you know how

1078
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: insulting it is to RFK, the real RFK, who is

1079
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: a great man and a great politician, say that Joe

1080
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: Biden is.

1081
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 3: The new RFK.

1082
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Whether his son is or not, that's up to him.

1083
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: He still has to prove that. But RFK himself, man,

1084
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: I think I used to at least have a Yeah,

1085
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: there we go. Got Robert Kennedy in his Times. It's

1086
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: a great book. I wish people would pick it up.

1087
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: And that is just one of those which really bothers me.

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00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: But what is ironic about this is that as the

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00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: Biden campaign continues to see RFK Junior as a threat,

1090
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: there's actually a lot of polling now that has come

1091
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: out to show that he may not necessarily be just

1092
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: a problem for Joe Biden. Let's put this up here

1093
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: on the screen. This is some new data from NBC News.

1094
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: They say how the race shifts in a multi way

1095
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: field compared to a binary choice. So what you guys

1096
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: can see in front of you is that with the

1097
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: two named candidates of Trump and Biden, that you have

1098
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: Joe Biden at forty four, you have Trump at forty six,

1099
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: and then you have ten percent who are not sure,

1100
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't vote and other For five named candidates, you have

1101
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: thirty nine percent for Biden, thirteen percent for RFK Junior,

1102
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent for Trump. So obviously that is a

1103
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: huge drop for Trump from forty six to thirty seven.

1104
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: Biden certainly does lose some, but it appears that he's

1105
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: going to lose some of that four to five percent Crystal,

1106
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: to Jill Stein and to Cornell West and that RFK

1107
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: Junior is actually pulling a decent chunk of votes away

1108
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: from the Trump campaign. It explains too why Trump has

1109
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: been attacking RFK Junior recently. But this is evidence I

1110
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: think that we you know, this is the most evidence

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00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: we've had so far as a very high quality poll,

1112
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: just to demonstrate that this very much could make things

1113
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: a lot easier for Joe Biden to win reelection. If anything,

1114
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: we can think about it a little bit. In the

1115
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Ross perro Vane, you know Bill Clinton, Yeah, he won

1116
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: three hundred some electoral votes.

1117
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: He only won forty two percent of the popular vote.

1118
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it was hw Bush and Parrot that took the rest.

1119
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Hw Bush for the rest of his life basically refused

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00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: to say Ross Parrot's name. I think the closest he

1121
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: came is he was like, He's like, I don't want

1122
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: to like to say his name. I think it cost

1123
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: me the election.

1124
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: And that was it.

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00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he was bitter to the very very end,

1126
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 2: and I mean maybe at a point I'm not really sure.

1127
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 2: But my whole point is here is that just with

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: thirty nine percent for Joe Biden, If RFK Junior is

1129
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 2: able to take away let's say even within the margin

1130
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: of era, let's say ten percent away from Trump, that's

1131
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: a disaster for the Trump campaign.

1132
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 4: So here's the breakdown of the numbers.

1133
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: Specifically, if you take the Jill Stein and the Cornell

1134
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: West effect out of the you know, instead of the

1135
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: five gay ras, like, what happens with just the RFK voters.

1136
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: So it's fifteen percent of voters who originally picked Trump

1137
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: when it's just Trump versus Biden, fifteen percent of them

1138
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: switched to Kennedy. When you give them that option with Biden,

1139
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: it's only seven percent who originally picked Biden if it's

1140
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: just head to head Biden Trump who switched to Kennedy.

1141
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: So fifteen percent for Trump versus seven percent for Biden.

1142
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: And then they underscore something that I've been saying for

1143
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: a little while here, which is that Republican voters just

1144
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: have a much higher favorability for RFK Junior than Democratic

1145
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: voters do. So you've got among Republican voters forty percent

1146
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: positive and fifteen percent negative, so really highly net positive

1147
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: for Kennedy among Republican voters.

1148
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: Democratic voters is.

1149
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: Polar opposite only sixteen percent have a positive rating of

1150
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: him versus fifty three percent who have a negative rating. Now, listen,

1151
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: other polls have shown the opposite effect. So I think

1152
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: it's very unclear at this point because at the end

1153
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: of the day, he's still a Kennedy. And also the

1154
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: other dynamic is Trump supporters tend to be more enthusiastic

1155
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: and more locked in than Biden's supporters, so there may

1156
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: be more disaffected Biden voters for r K Junior to

1157
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: pick up than Trump voters. But it is I mean,

1158
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: this is something I originally when RFK got in all

1159
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: of the theorizing was like, no, he's definitely going to

1160
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: hurt Trump. Then it's sort of switched to now it's

1161
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: definitely going to hurt Biden. And I think it's unclear.

1162
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: But if I had to say today, I think this

1163
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: is more of a problem for Trump because you just

1164
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: can't deny that there's this overwhelming negative view of him

1165
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: among Democratic voters.

1166
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: And you also still have think about the way our

1167
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: politics works.

1168
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is so centered around Trump and how

1169
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: you feel about Trump and how Trump feels about you.

1170
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: Et cetera. And he's gone after RFK Junior a bit,

1171
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: but more on policy. The vibes are like, I like him.

1172
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: I think it's better than Biden.

1173
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: You said, So he's getting the friendly treatment from Trump,

1174
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: he's getting the aggressively negative treatment from the Democratic Party,

1175
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: and I think that sends a signal to a lot

1176
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: of voters of like which side he's more aligned with.

1177
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it shouldn't be that way, but that's just

1178
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: the reality.

1179
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Good point negative polarization, Yeah, the biggest driving forces in

1180
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: US politics exactly.

1181
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: So in any case, it's interesting.

1182
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: I think it's still unsettled, but I am increasingly see

1183
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: There's a Wall Street Journal poll that also showed RFK

1184
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Junior taking more from Trump than from Biden, which begs

1185
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: an interesting question of why it is then that the

1186
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Biden campaign is like so much more freaked down about

1187
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: him apparently than the Trump campaign.

1188
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Let's put this up there on the screen too.

1189
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: For ballot access wise, we're seeing a big, big development

1190
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: for RFK Junior. They a campaign announced on Thursday that

1191
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: they have gained ballot access in Michigan for the twenty

1192
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: twenty four election. Obviously Michigan key battleground state there both

1193
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: for Trump and for Biden. Trump wanted by about ten

1194
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: thousand in twenty sixteen. In twenty twenty, Biden one, but

1195
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: not by actually an overwhelming majority. There have been some

1196
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: issues there that we cover, you know, thankfully we did

1197
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: in Rhage and your focus group in Michigan, and we

1198
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: showed you that there is some real support there on

1199
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: the ground. Obviously, there's also a big Arab American contingent.

1200
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: To voters that are in Michigan, are they going to

1201
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: show up and are they going to vote for Biden?

1202
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: All of these are completely unknown questions. But the big

1203
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: picture is that he is gaining ballot access slowly, but surely.

1204
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next one, please, because this also

1205
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: demonstrates where because of some of the money that they've

1206
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: got now, they're able to at least contest some of

1207
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: these challenges from the courts to his ballot access. So,

1208
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: for example, Hawaii's state Democratic Party, think about that has

1209
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: sought to disqualify We the People Party, which was formed

1210
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: specifically to get RFK Junior on the ballot. The state

1211
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, according to the order from the Office of

1212
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: Elections late Friday in Hawaii, said that the Democratic Party

1213
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: failed to meet its burden of proof to boot the

1214
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: Kennedy Party from the ballot. So, as they say here too,

1215
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: while Hawaii's four electoral votes are not likely to be consequential,

1216
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: this is this victory, first victory against challenges and assigns

1217
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: to that keeping the independent off the ballot will not

1218
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: be as easy as Democrats have been thinking that it

1219
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: would be, and as they plan to do this across

1220
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: the entire nation. So this was a trial balloon. But

1221
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: where they're really going to be gunning for him is Michigan.

1222
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: If he does get Pennsylvania, if he gets Georgia and California,

1223
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: any of these places where he could either eat into

1224
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: the popular vote or actually eat into the electoral college.

1225
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: It's sort of.

1226
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Adorable the account of how this went down because they

1227
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: didn't the RFK junior team didn't actually have a lawyer

1228
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: who was involved in these hearings. They just had like

1229
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: whoever they're you know, the like mom who's volunteering for

1230
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: their campaign on the ground in Hawaii was there. And

1231
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that you know, the Democratic Party,

1232
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: they had their lawyers whoever, you know, well paid, well trained,

1233
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. And she was still able to prevail in

1234
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: this court in spite of the fact that Judge had

1235
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: to keep kind of, you know, explaining how this works

1236
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: and when she could speak in what sort of objection

1237
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: she could make, et cetera, et cetera. But ultimately they

1238
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: found there was really no merit to the case that

1239
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party was trying to pursue against RFK Junior.

1240
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: Again, I just find it.

1241
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: I just find it really interesting that it's the Democrats

1242
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: who are so panicked about the idea of having RFK

1243
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: Junior in the race when it's really unclear who he's

1244
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: going to take more from, and so it's like, okay, well,

1245
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: rather than fixating on trying to crush this person, kick

1246
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: them off, the ballots offer voters any sort of other choice.

1247
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, in many ways, I don't

1248
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: really feel like RFK Junior is a choice, because they

1249
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: were all the same on a number of topics, but

1250
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I won't put that aside for a moment. But rather

1251
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: than actually appealing to voters, their instinct is always just

1252
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: to like make it so that people can't have any choice.

1253
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: There was a really interesting I don't know if you

1254
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: guys saw this on Twitter yesterday.

1255
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 4: It was just so perfect. Did you see this.

1256
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton tweet or this Nagan unto your time, Oh

1257
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: was just too perfect. So she tweeted out this chart.

1258
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: It was about climate change, and it showed under Trump

1259
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: the CO two emissions, under Biden the CO two emissions,

1260
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: and then what the target level that Biden himself set,

1261
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: not even like the bigger like European standards or whatever

1262
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: that Biden himself set, And it showed Biden wildly missing

1263
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: his own target that he met, but being slightly better

1264
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: than the Trump line. And she tweeted that out and

1265
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: was like, here's what's on the line.

1266
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 4: This is why you got to vote Democrat.

1267
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: And it's like this is just too perfect, Like you

1268
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: tweeted out a chart showing that you're honestly a little

1269
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: bit better than Trump, but still not even coming.

1270
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: Close to actually dealing with the issue. And it's just

1271
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: it's such a perfect encapsulation. Do you have what did

1272
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: she actually say?

1273
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: I have it here in front of me yet, which

1274
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: she said, what's at stake for our climate in this

1275
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: November's election?

1276
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely everything.

1277
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm blind the Biden line, the target.

1278
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely everything. But he's still not going to do enough

1279
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: to actually like meet even the dumb about this too

1280
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: is that modest target that he himself said.

1281
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. There was also a pandemic.

1282
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: You know, there was a massive drop in CO two

1283
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: emissions and some of this is also so this doesn't

1284
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: even reflective of policy.

1285
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't make it. This is what a stupid graphic

1286
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: on so many levels. Yes, but isn't it.

1287
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: I just it's such a just pitch perfect capsulation.

1288
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: If you the climate, then yeah, that makes sense.

1289
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh, okay, Biden's going to be moderately better,

1290
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: but we're still going to all, you know, die in

1291
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: the climate apocalypse because absolutely everything is on the line.

1292
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: Great, good to know, good to know if.

1293
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: You accept that framing, Yes, I could see why exactly

1294
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: that would be a problem. They're also let's put this

1295
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: up there on the screen. Some news from the Kennedy campaign.

1296
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: Nicole Shanahan donated who is the VP candidate for Urka

1297
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: Junior donated two million dollars to the campaign the day

1298
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: after that she was named to the ticket. So on

1299
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: March twenty seventh in the state of Nevada, two million

1300
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: dollars literally just on the day that she was named

1301
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: the VP. And of course she's probably got hundreds of

1302
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: millions of dollars at her disposal. This is going to

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01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: finance both ballot access to initiatives and court challenges in

1304
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: the future should they arise, and are is definitely going

1305
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: to be a major asset to the Kennedy campaign going forward.

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01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: So I think things are looking up for ourk Junior's

1307
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: campaign right now in terms of the ballot access. I

1308
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: mean Michigan alone, that's huge, just just as that state

1309
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: have it right exactly, that state could decide the entire election.

1310
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Speaker 2: If he just gets Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, then that's it.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: Now we're truly in the ballgame, and I think some

1313
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: Democrats are starting to take notice. You know, we've been

1314
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: watching some of the activists and others go after him.

1315
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Speaker 2: But I'm very interested to see how it all turns out.

1316
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the next part. This is the

1317
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: story been dying to cover now for quite a long time,

1318
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: and now Joe Biden is ignited an international incident after

1319
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: President Biden has now been making the rounds recently telling

1320
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: a terrible tale. The tale is of his uncle, and

1321
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: his uncle was on board a US military aircraft. It

1322
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: was after D Day his uncle went down in Papua

1323
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: New Guinea while fighting in the Pacific Campaign. His plane

1324
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: crashed in this terrible incident, and he was eventually eaten

1325
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: by cannibals. This is the story according to Biden, and

1326
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: then we'll tell you what actually happened.

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01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 16: And my uncle, they called him Ambrose Brosie, they called

1328
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 16: him my uncle Bosey. It's a hell of an athlete,

1329
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 16: they tell me. When he was a kid, and he

1330
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 16: became an Army Air Corps before the Air Force came along.

1331
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 16: He's those single engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones.

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Speaker 16: He got shot down in New Guinea and they never

1333
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 16: found the body because there used to be a lot

1334
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 16: of cannibals, for real, in that part of New Guinea.

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: As President Biden saying he was shot down, there's no

1336
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: evidence of that. And why is he saying that his

1337
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: uncle was eaten by cannibals. That is a bad way

1338
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: to go.

1339
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 12: He lost his life.

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Speaker 15: It's not look, I'm not we should not make jokes

1341
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 15: about it. I mean your last line, it's for a laugh.

1342
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 15: It's for a funny, a funny statement. And he takes

1343
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 15: us very seriously. His uncle, who served and protected this

1344
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 15: country lost his life serving and that should matter.

1345
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it should matter. And the details of

1346
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: that should matter too. And let's put this up there

1347
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: on the screen. It turns out that basically none of

1348
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: that that Biden said was true. President Biden, it turns

1349
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: out was talking about his uncle, Second Lieutenant Ambrose J.

1350
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: Finnegan Junior now Finnigan, who was the brother of Biden's mother,

1351
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: according to Biden, got shot down over New Guinea. However,

1352
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: the US government record of the crash, says of the

1353
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: missing service members, does not attribute Finnegan's death to hostile

1354
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: actions or even indicate Cannibal's were any factor. According to

1355
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: US military records and the Pentagon's MIA Accounting Agency, he

1356
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: died on May fourteenth, nineteen forty four, while he was

1357
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: a passenger on an Army Air Force plane quote that

1358
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: for unknown reasons, was forced to ditch in the Pacific

1359
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: Ocean off the northern coast of New Guinea.

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01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 2: Both engines failed at low altitude aircraft nos hit the

1362
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: water hard. Three men failed to emerge from the sinking

1363
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: wreck and were lost in the crash, according to a

1364
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: survivor of the crash itself. The agency also said Finnegan

1365
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: was a passenger on that plane when it was lost. Quote,

1366
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: he has not been associated with any remains ever recovered

1367
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: from the area after the war and is still accounted for.

1368
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: So again, he didn't go over and he didn't go

1369
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: down on New Guinea. He went down near New Guinea,

1370
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: lost his life in a tragic accident. It appears not

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: due to hostile enemy actions. Doesn't erase the man's service

1372
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: at all. It took a lot of courage to fly

1373
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: on board some of these aircraft in the Second World War.

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: If anybody wants to go watch Masters of the Air

1375
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: and see exactly what it was like up there.

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Speaker 3: It was a total nightmare. So I'm not a racing

1377
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: his man's service at all.

1378
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: But I do think it's actually pretty despicable that you

1379
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: would invent some horrible death, you know, for political purposes

1380
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: of your uncle who tragically died in the Second World War.

1381
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: And so this is either like a family tale gone awry, very.

1382
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: Possible, or just straight up Biden embellishment for the sake

1383
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: of embellishment. And the funny part is it has now

1384
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: caused international incident. Let's put this up there on the screen.

1385
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: The leader of Papua New Guinea quote takes offense after

1386
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 2: Biden implies that his uncle was eaten by cannibals. The

1387
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: Prime Minister quote accused Joe Biden of disparaging the island

1388
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: by implying that the uncle was eaten by cannibals during

1389
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: World War II. Biden's comments now have offended a key

1390
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: strategic ally in the South Pacific, and the Prime Minister

1391
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: said in a statement that he appeared to his imply

1392
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: his uncle was eaten by cannibals, and his remarks may

1393
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: have been a slip of the tongue. However, my country

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01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: does not deserve to be labeled as such. And you

1395
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: know what he's right now, is true that they're cannibals

1396
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: or whatever on Papua New Guinea. Yes, there have been

1397
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: some documented instances and all that, but in this particular,

1398
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: in this particular instance, Biden's straight up wrong. According to

1399
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: the US government itself.

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01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 1: Yes, he goes on to say, perhaps he says the

1401
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 1: remains of World War two like scattered all over, including

1402
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: the plane that carried President Biden's uncle. Perhaps, given President

1403
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: Biden's comments and the strong reaction from PNG and other

1404
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: parts of the world, it's time for the USA to

1405
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: find as many remains of World War two and P

1406
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: and G as possible, including those of servicemen who lost

1407
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: their lives. Like Ambrose Finnegan, The theaters of war in

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01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: PNGG and Solomon Islands are many and littered with the

1409
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: remains of World War Two, including human remains, plane wrecked shipwrecks, tunnels,

1410
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: and bombs. Are people daily live with the fear of

1411
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: being killed by detonated bombs of World War Two. So

1412
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: he really touched a nerve with these stupid, fake cannibal comments.

1413
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: This is a corn pop level Joe Biden's story, Like

1414
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: it really has it all. You've got the like you know,

1415
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: old man low key or even high key racism, the

1416
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, just like why would you There's so many

1417
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: stories that he makes up that you're like, why would

1418
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: you even make that up? What is going through your

1419
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: mind that you think that this somehow serves you in

1420
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: this moment? And then the fact that he just accidentally,

1421
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: through his verbal cannibal diarrhea, stumbles into some like international

1422
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: diplomatic conflict. It's this is just Joe Biden perfection, absolute perfection.

1423
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: Here by the way, for what it's worth, I looked

1424
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 1: into the whole cannibal situation New Guinea at that time,

1425
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: and yes, you're right, documented instances, but as scholars immediately reacted,

1426
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: they're like, people weren't just eating random guys who fell

1427
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: from the sky.

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 4: There was as part of a funeral ritual. There was

1429
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 4: some ritual. Can in that context, It's not like everyone's just.

1430
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Going around eating people all the time. Just so people

1431
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: out there know what the reality is of what was

1432
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: going on.

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Ristal.

1434
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is a Jared Diamond is a great expert

1435
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: on Papua New Guinea. If you ever want to go

1436
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: watch some of his videos on the subject. There are

1437
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 2: some interesting there are some actually interesting survival tales of

1438
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: World War II planes that went down on Papua New Guinea.

1439
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: But it is certainly not involving any family members of

1440
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: Joseph Robin Ed Biden.

1441
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 3: There you go, invidible.

1442
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Now, we would you remiss though, if we didn't at

1443
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: least tie some politics into this. Let's put this up

1444
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: there on the screen. What do we find that a

1445
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 2: Harvard poll of young voters says that Biden has a

1446
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: lead with Trump, but just nine percent of the country.

1447
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: Nine percent of these young voters think that the country

1448
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: is moving in the right direction. So despite the fact

1449
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: that everything is going down, Biden does have that lead

1450
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: over Donald Trump. This is according to registered voters, with

1451
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: younger voters showing Biden pulling a fifty percent support over

1452
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: thirty years or younger compared to Trump's thirty seven percent,

1453
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: But just nine percent say that the country is quote

1454
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: generally headed in the wrong direction, and a full sixty

1455
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 2: percent say that the country.

1456
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: Is on the wrong track. There are some though troubling

1457
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: findings though, Crystal inside the poll for Biden on the

1458
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 3: topic of Israel.

1459
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: Well, there's a number of interesting and difficult findings in

1460
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: this poll for Biden, including yes, he has a lead

1461
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: over Trump, but it is not as large as his

1462
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: lead was last time, so that matters. There's also a

1463
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: tremendous gender gap. His lead among young men is just

1464
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: six points. Among young women, his lead is thirty three points.

1465
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: There's some graphs you should take a look at that

1466
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: show you know at the same time that young men,

1467
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: in terms of their political preferences, although not in terms

1468
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,440
Speaker 1: of some of their issue support, but are becoming more conservative.

1469
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: Young women are becoming more liberal.

1470
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: Something we've talked about before that shows up in this poll,

1471
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: which is a very interesting phenomenon. His lead overall among

1472
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty four year old So if you're looking

1473
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: at the youngest part of this poll demographic is fourteen points,

1474
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: and among the twenty five to twenty nine year old,

1475
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 1: so the somewhat older ones, it's actually larger twenty six points.

1476
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: So younger Americans, the eighteen to twenty four are actually

1477
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they're still favoring him by fourteen points,

1478
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: but the gap is a little more and narrow, which

1479
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: is interesting as well, in contrary to previous trends and

1480
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: dynamics where young voters are getting like more and more

1481
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: and more democratic, progressive, whatever, huge gap in terms of

1482
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: college students and college graduates versus the races even among

1483
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: young people who are not in college and who don't

1484
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: have a four year degree. But you're right to the

1485
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,440
Speaker 1: point about Israel. I mean, there's just like massive overwhelming

1486
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: support for a ceasefire, including among every demographic group that

1487
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: they test, including among young Republicans. So it was across

1488
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: the board, massive support for a ceasefire. And then if

1489
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: you dig into his approval rating by issue, the issue

1490
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: on which he gets the lowest approval rating of everything

1491
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: is what they describe as the Israel Hamas.

1492
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 4: War at just eighteen percent.

1493
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: Wow, So a lot of warning signs for him with

1494
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: regard to how young voters are feeling about him, what

1495
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: direction politically they're moving, what issues they're prioritizing, and certainly

1496
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: how they're viewing his unconditional support for Israel.

1497
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 4: At this time.

1498
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's a key point. We have

1499
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: talked a lot about the gender divide and the breakup.

1500
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the barstool phenomenon. I'm also

1501
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: very intrigued exactly by what you pointed out about the

1502
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: tie between people who didn't go to college. That is

1503
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: the education phenomenon which is showing itself there. So we

1504
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: continue to see where the I mean, actually they're both

1505
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: bi directional, because whether you are a woman or not

1506
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: is highly determinative these days of whether you're going to college,

1507
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: as opposed to if you're a man. They're a likelihood

1508
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: if you go into college is a lot lower today

1509
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: than it was in the past.

1510
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: We're getting to a two to one.

1511
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: Ratio very soon on some major college campuses, so that

1512
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: will heavily inform our politics and the economy, which.

1513
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 3: We'll get to.

1514
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: It's worth looking at the poll if you guys have time,

1515
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: because there's some interesting questions they asked to to try

1516
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: to get it, like how young people feel about different

1517
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: gender dynamics. And they ask them questions like, you know,

1518
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: do you agree with the statement these days people are

1519
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: just too soft? Or another one was Another one was

1520
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: these days women are too promiscuous.

1521
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: Most people disagree.

1522
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: I think too statist one tells us that women are

1523
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 2: not that promiscuous anymore.

1524
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 3: That's true according to.

1525
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Do Well, and most people disagree with that statement. By

1526
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: the way, Republicans agreed with it the most. On the

1527
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: too soft one, I think Republicans overwhelmingly Young Republicans overwhelm

1528
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: agreed with that.

1529
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 4: So anyway, they asked some interesting stuff that's worth it.

1530
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: I do agree people are too soft, but it's not

1531
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: it's not a youth phenomenon. But that's a whole lot.

1532
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: I think some of these people complaining about college protesters

1533
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: are definitely too soft.

1534
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 4: How about it.

1535
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: I was going to say, that's exactly what I meant.

1536
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: I think our elites are actually the ones who were

1537
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: softer than anybody else.

1538
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go ahead and move on to

1539
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: some very serious topics with regard to Israel. Put this

1540
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: first report up on the screen, and so we're still

1541
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, what the hell happened

1542
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: with Iran, what's likely to have in the future with Iran,

1543
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,440
Speaker 1: how this all unfolded.

1544
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 4: New York Times has a report.

1545
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: Take it with a grain of salt because it's frankly

1546
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: very flattering to the Biden administration.

1547
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 4: So good to keep that in mind.

1548
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: But the headline here is Israel planned a bigger attack

1549
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: on Iran, but scaled it back to avoid war. The

1550
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: strike on Iran on Friday was originally intended to be

1551
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: much broader in scope, but after intense pressure from allies,

1552
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: Biden being one of the key people that they talk

1553
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: about here, Israeli leaders agreed to ratchet it down. The

1554
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: story they tell for what it's worth, and soagram interested

1555
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: to hear your read on this is that basically, you know,

1556
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: the Israelis are trying to sell this line that they

1557
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: had no idea Ron would be so upset over us

1558
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: bombing your embassy and taking out your top military commanders.

1559
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 3: That's bullshit.

1560
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: There is no way, these people didn't know that this

1561
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: was a big deal and a massive escalation.

1562
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

1563
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: So then the Iranian retaliatory attack, while it caused next

1564
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: to no damage because all of the everything was effectively

1565
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: shot down with very few things that actually got through,

1566
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: it was in its breadth much larger than originally anticipated.

1567
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: Again according to this article, and so immediately afterwards, the

1568
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: war cabinet had planned a much more aggressive response and

1569
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: one that they had planned to do like basically instantaneously.

1570
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: And then the report says Bbe talked to Biden and

1571
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: he was kind of talked down from immediately doing that,

1572
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: put some time, and then did the more limited strike

1573
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: which allowed iron to save enough face to sort of

1574
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: it appears back away from the conflict, although you know,

1575
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: we're taking some of the fallout here because our troops

1576
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: are now once again, our service members in the region

1577
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: are now once again under fire from you know, Irani

1578
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: and affiliated proxy groups. So in any case, this is

1579
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: the story that The New York Times has to tell

1580
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: that President Biden was hero here and talked Israel out

1581
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: of making the situation, which was already incredibly dangerous, even

1582
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: worse than it already is.

1583
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what we can actually see also is that they

1584
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: talked about this quote huge offensive operation that was going

1585
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 2: to be carried out again. Also if the Iranian strike

1586
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: had materialized. Initially, they actually believe somehow that Iran had

1587
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: planned to attack with a swarm of large drones up

1588
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: to ten ballistic missiles. There Israeli and military leaders that

1589
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: all agreed on a massive counter strike. Some of this

1590
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: was eventually paired back by the US. But I would

1591
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: note a couple of things here. So it does turn

1592
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: out that we do have some influence with these folks

1593
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: whenever we want to use it whenever it comes to Iran.

1594
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 2: But second, also under estimate the war mongering like nature

1595
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: of a lot of the people inside the military establishment

1596
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: inside and political establishment inside of Israel. They were ready

1597
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: basically to push the red button and drag the entire

1598
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 2: world into a world war. It's only because America tried

1599
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: to push it back down a little bit and got

1600
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: them to do what they want to do that we

1601
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: have somewhat of a release vout. But don't be so

1602
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: sure that we'll be in control there in the future.

1603
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: This is a very very dangerous situation.

1604
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 9: To me.

1605
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: This lends credence to the report we brought you yesterday

1606
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: that was from an Israeli TV outlet that Biden was

1607
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: basically like, all right, fine, you can do your Rafa

1608
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 1: invasion if you do a more limited attack on Iran.

1609
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: If this report is true, I think it fits together

1610
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: with like, so what did Biden say in that conversation that.

1611
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 4: Really persuaded babe? And you know that was I guess

1612
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: the leverage rather.

1613
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: Than withholding weapons or doing ane of the things we

1614
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: want him to do and study, He's like, how about

1615
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: I sacrificed the Palestinians in Rafa, and you know you

1616
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 1: feel good about that, and then you can do this

1617
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: more limited strike.

1618
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 4: So to me, that seems to be the picture that's

1619
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 4: coming into focus.

1620
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: So we covered yesterday there's already been some strikes in Rafa,

1621
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: two strikes that killed twenty two people eighteen children, three

1622
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: women and one man, including one of the women was pregnant.

1623
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: They had to cut the baby from rebelly. Thank god

1624
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: they were actually able to save this premature infant. But

1625
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: that's the picture of what's going on there. We also

1626
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: have some important Israeli domestic political news.

1627
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 4: Let's put this up on the screen.

1628
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: So the head of Israel's military intelligence has actually resigned

1629
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: over failures in anticipating and planning for the October seventh attack,

1630
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: he said. Major General Heron Haliva said in his resignation

1631
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: letter that he took responsibility for the military intelligence failings

1632
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: that preceded Himas's attack, which is widely regardless of worst

1633
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: security failure in the Jewish State's seventy six year history.

1634
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 1: He also called for an official investigation to be carried

1635
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: And they say that this departure is quote widely expected

1636
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: to be followed by further resignations among Israel's military intelligence leadership,

1637
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: with several other senior officials having admitted failings in the

1638
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: run up to Hamas's attack, and it's also expected Sager

1639
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: to increase some pressure on Netanyahu himself to admit some

1640
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: mistakes or launch this long anticipated investigation into what the

1641
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: hell went wrong in anticipated October seven because I don't

1642
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember these details, but multiple confirmed

1643
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: reports at this point have come out saying, yeah, they

1644
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: saw them planning, they actually had the attack plans and

1645
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: were just like, and they're not going to do it.

1646
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: We don't think they're going to do anything. So and

1647
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, specifically with regard to BB and his coalition.

1648
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: They had moved some of the IDF units that were

1649
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: would have been in that nearby the Gaza Strip part

1650
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: of Israel to protect these you know, settler maniacs in

1651
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: the West Bank to you know, Appeace Ben Gavir and

1652
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: his people. And so that's part of why not only

1653
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: they fail to anticipate, but then the response was horrible.

1654
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: It took hours and hours for you know, many of

1655
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: these people inno sence who were being slaughtered to have

1656
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: any official help.

1657
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is especially ironic because this means now that

1658
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: Bibi Netanyahu is now the only member of these really

1659
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: military establishment who was there on October seventh who has

1660
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 2: not taken responsibility for them, and instead he is actually

1661
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: sailing to re establishing his power. I mean, you have

1662
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: to in some ways just respect the cravenness of the

1663
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: man and how good of a politician he is. As

1664
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 2: you said, already polls are showing some people are like, yeah,

1665
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: you know, it was definitely bad, but he moved past it,

1666
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: and so you know, we'll rescue him maybe. And the

1667
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: other side they have few points, but he's been working

1668
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: with them by and large and so maybe we'll keep him. Actually,

1669
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what dragging yourself into a bigger war

1670
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: despite a massive disaster was meant to do in the

1671
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: first place, which is, you know, pretty astounding. And I

1672
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: do do think it is genuinely disgusting that in their

1673
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: democratic society and all that which they like to brag

1674
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: about all the time, the person at the top who

1675
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: was genuinely responsible at a very deep political level and

1676
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: military level, has not had any accountability, while the underlings,

1677
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: who sure they definitely have some don't nearly as much

1678
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: as he does have have been allowed to take the fall.

1679
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: It's not right.

1680
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: The other thing is his whole thing was mister security.

1681
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: His whole thing was vote for me and I'll keep

1682
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 1: you safe. Like your core thesis about how to achieve

1683
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: that was completely wrong, and you were sleep at the

1684
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: switch and you are out there on the record multiple

1685
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: times talking about how you need to support Hamas and

1686
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: the you know, it's clear the ideology. We need to

1687
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: make sure we have this talking point of there's no

1688
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 1: partner for peace there. We can't possibly work with a mass.

1689
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: We need to keep the West Bank and the Gaza

1690
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: Strip divided. We can control the level of the flame

1691
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: quote unquote, we can go in and quote unquote mow

1692
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: the grass from time to time. That ideology was a

1693
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: comp leet failure when it comes to his core promise

1694
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: to the electorate being a you know, a security prime

1695
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: minister keeping them safe. That was the core promise. And

1696
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: so the fact that he's he keeps swishing it up,

1697
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 1: and that's why the war for him politically had to continue,

1698
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: is because he's said, listen, once this is over, then

1699
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: of course we're going to ask all the hard questions.

1700
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: There's going to be accountability, we're going to look into this, etc.

1701
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: And so part of the motivation to keep this thing

1702
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: going is because you postpone indefinitely that reckoning. Hope memories fade,

1703
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Hope people feel different, Hope you can bring them some

1704
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: sort of you know, quote unquote victory that they find satisfactory,

1705
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: that they forgive and forget the failures leading up to

1706
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: October seventh. That's the game he's playing, and so far, frankly,

1707
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: he's played it with regards to his really domestic population

1708
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: very well and also played Joe Biden and the US

1709
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: political class like a fiddle as well.

1710
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 3: Very true.

1711
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the very latest atrocities discovered

1712
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: in the Gaza Strip. So you'll recall there was an

1713
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: all out assault on the city of Communis. Now where

1714
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: people are finally returning to that city and we're getting

1715
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,919
Speaker 1: a sense of what the hell happened there. The devastation,

1716
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: annihilation is just, I mean, there are no words for it.

1717
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: And the latest discoveries are some of the most horrifying

1718
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: I've seen. You put this up on the screen. You've

1719
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: had multiple mass graves now now uncovered by the Gaza

1720
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: Civil Defense Agency in Communis. They're saying, and you know,

1721
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: mainstream media outlets are by and large not able to

1722
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: get in the Gaza Strip, but they're confirming the best

1723
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: way they can that you've had somewhere around two hundred

1724
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: and eighty three bodies, hundreds of bodies discovered decomposing in

1725
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: these mass graves. One of them was one of the

1726
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: large ones, was by NASA Hospital. It's known that there

1727
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: was intense fighting, shelling, bombing, all the rest in and

1728
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: around that hospital.

1729
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Speaker 4: We're seeing the horrors here. Reports are.

1730
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: This includes you know, not just men, but women, the elderly, wounded,

1731
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: young people with hospital tags still on their arms children.

1732
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 1: Just an absolutely horrifying scene. CNN had a report they

1733
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: had a stringer who was able to visit the scene

1734
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: on Sunday. They said that some people had buried their

1735
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: family members around the grounds of the hospital in January

1736
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: as a temporary measure, and then when they returned after

1737
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,839
Speaker 1: the Israeli withdrawal, they found the bodies had been exhumed,

1738
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,919
Speaker 1: apparently because the IDF was using DNA testing to determine

1739
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: whether any of the hostages held and Gaza were among

1740
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: the dead, and then they were dumped in these collective graves,

1741
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: is what they're saying.

1742
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 4: So just an absolute horror here.

1743
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: And you know, the other piece of this is there's

1744
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: like a little bit of mainstream discussion about this, but

1745
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: the New York Times in particular, how many stories did

1746
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: they do yesterday about like college protesters and whatever.

1747
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 4: This was nowhere to be found.

1748
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: I've got three in front of me right now, actually

1749
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: on the front page page.

1750
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: Ironically, Let's see what they just didn't even cover, mass

1751
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: grave with hundreds of bodies.

1752
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 4: Not worthy of coverage.

1753
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Let's put the next one up there on the screen too,

1754
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: because this actually highlights another important thing that you were

1755
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: talking about. There was if we were all recall a

1756
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: UN review where they say Israel has yet to provide

1757
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: evidence that the staffers are actually terror group members. This

1758
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: was important because this was why the US and several

1759
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 2: other nations ended up pulling funding from the organization, and

1760
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: it significantly disrupted a lot of the aid that was

1761
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 2: going into the Gaza strip. But Crystal now several months later,

1762
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, they have not been able to provide any evidence,

1763
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 2: both to the United States, to the UN, and to

1764
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: any other large body with evidence that they had initially

1765
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: claimed in a so called dossiated news organizations that have

1766
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: been able to actually.

1767
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 3: Be backed up.

1768
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 2: The UN oversight body that did look into the allegations

1769
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: within their found you know what was it like twelve

1770
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 2: instances or something like that, but the vast majority of

1771
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: their staff were not involved, and the Israelis have been

1772
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: able unable to provide widespread evidence in the organization itself.

1773
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: To my knowledge, there was no confirmation even if those

1774
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: twelve that was what the Israelis had claimed. They still

1775
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: this is months later, right, and this is after UNRA

1776
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: was defunded by some sixteen different countries. Now many of

1777
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: those have come back in but the US has since

1778
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: passed legislation saying UNRAS to be defunded at least until

1779
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the number one aid organization on the ground,

1780
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: as we pretend to care about Palestinians starving in the

1781
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Gaza strip. So no, they haven't provided any evidence about

1782
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: the twelve. They certainly didn't provide They made this much

1783
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,480
Speaker 1: broader claim of like, oh, there's hundreds of Hamas affiliated

1784
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: people in UNRA. They provided no evidence for any of this.

1785
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: The unreinvestigation has been unable. And by the way, this

1786
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: was led by a former French foreign minister. Led this

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: what they call a neutrality review after Israel alleged that

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01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: twelve UNRAS staff took part in October seventh. So it

1789
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 1: wasn't like, you know, an UNRESK staffer, which the Israeli

1790
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 1: is a smirit As being like basically Hamas.

1791
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 4: It was this attempt to bring in an independent.

1792
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: Third party who could look at the allegations in a

1793
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: serious way. And you'll recall also so immediately fired the

1794
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: twelve people just based on these allegations, which frankly seems

1795
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: unfair at this point given that there is a proof

1796
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: to back it up, and the US immediately just based

1797
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: on the allegation was with no proof, and we saw

1798
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: the thing that was being shopped, the dossier that was

1799
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: being shopped, and that mainstream news antlets like the Wall

1800
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: Street Journal just you know, printed like a press release

1801
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: effectively with no evidence. So in any case, that's we

1802
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: immediately the US immediately. This was right after the ICJ

1803
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: said it's plausible committing genocide. On that very same day,

1804
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: we defund UNRA, helping to further that plausible genocide.

1805
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: And now here we are.

1806
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Months later, this report will barely be it won't even

1807
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 1: be remarked upon by the most of the American media

1808
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: or political class. It'll just like the many other investigations

1809
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: that we're always waiting for the results of, you know,

1810
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: this will barely see the light of day.

1811
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 4: So that's where we are.

1812
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to update you all on something that's unfolding

1813
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: that I think could be very significant. There is an

1814
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: AID flotilla that is attempting to leave from Turkey Medea.

1815
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Benjamin of Code Pink is among the individuals who is

1816
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: on that AID flotilla. They're attempting to break the blockade

1817
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: of Gaza. This isn't the first time that a similar

1818
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: flotilla of aid has attempted to reach the Gaza strip.

1819
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 4: More on that in a moment.

1820
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Speaker 1: Actually interviewed Medea before she left over on Crystal Colin

1821
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Friends about their goals.

1822
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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to that.

1823
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 6: I am going on a ship that we want to

1824
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 6: go to Gaza. I don't know if we're going to mention.

1825
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 4: That, well, I was on sure if it's public yet, well, yes,

1826
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 4: we can.

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Speaker 6: Talk about that, which is part of the Freedom Flotilla.

1828
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 6: And this is a tradition that in the beginning, when

1829
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 6: it first started, actually a couple of times the boats

1830
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 6: landed in Gaza. But then after that the Israelis stopped

1831
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 6: the boats from going, and in twenty ten they actually

1832
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 6: landed with by air on the boat and killed ten

1833
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 6: of the people on board.

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01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 3: I remember that the Lavi Marmara.

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Speaker 6: So this year very soon, actually we will be leaving

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01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 6: very very soon, and there are many hundreds of us,

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01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 6: and we represent people from thirty different countries and we

1838
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 6: will be bringing many many tons of humanitarian goods to

1839
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 6: Gaza and trying to make it by chip, and of

1840
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 6: course we hope that we will make it. We are

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01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 6: prepared if we don't make it. I mean, we were

1842
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 6: totally nonviolent. We hope that the Israelis don't come on

1843
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 6: board and start shooting people, but we are determined to

1844
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 6: go because we have to show that a couple of things. One,

1845
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 6: the Israelis are not letting in humanitarian aid. They are

1846
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 6: and they should not be the ones to inspect this AID.

1847
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 6: We've had other inspectors and they will come and inspect

1848
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 6: our boats, but not the Israelis because they use any

1849
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 6: excuse to stop the AID from going in, and they

1850
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 6: don't have the legitimacy to be the ones to inspect

1851
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 6: that AID. And we want to show that Gaza should

1852
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 6: have the ability to use their ports, to use they

1853
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 6: did have an airport, you know, until the Israelis bombed it,

1854
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 6: and to be able to come in and out by land.

1855
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 6: And that's why there is a siege on Gaza. And

1856
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 6: there was a sea John Gaza way before October seventh,

1857
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 6: and so we think it's important to try to break

1858
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 6: the siege of Gaza.

1859
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Speaker 1: So she refers to the fact that in twenty ten,

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01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: the same group free to and Floatilla is sort of

1861
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: a coalition of groups. They attempted us similar you know,

1862
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: aid mission with similar flotilla, and the IDEA raided the

1863
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: boat and killed ten people. Yeah, that was massive, massive

1864
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: diplomatic crisis. Let's put this up on the screen from

1865
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: the Washington Post with a few details here they say

1866
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Gaza Aid flotilla plans to challenge Israeli blockade.

1867
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 4: The organizers say.

1868
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: They say they're preparing to sail from Turkey in the

1869
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: coming days on a mission aimed at breaching Israel's naval

1870
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: blockade and highlighting the lack of aid reaching Palestinians in

1871
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: the besieged enclave. They go on to say the flotilla

1872
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: is well traveled route the Mediterranean has gained new relevance

1873
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: during the current conflict, as governments and relief organizations like

1874
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: turn to sea deliveries to circumvent what aid groups say

1875
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: is Israel's persistent obstruction of deliveries to.

1876
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 4: Gaza over land.

1877
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: And Sagar I was able to get in touch with

1878
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: Medea yesterday and she said, I can you know, share

1879
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: this publicly because I was asking, you know, how are

1880
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: things going, what's the update, how are things looking? And

1881
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: she says it seems the US, Israel and Germany are pressuring,

1882
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 1: pressuring Turkey's Artawan not to allow the ships to leave Istanbul.

1883
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: We hear the Deputy director for counter terrorism from the

1884
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: State Department is here to talk about this, but there's

1885
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: a lot of grassroots pressure in the opposite direction, given

1886
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: that millions of people in Turkey donated money for this mission.

1887
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens tomorrow, as we're supposed to leave

1888
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. So this could be potentially very significant because

1889
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 1: it could really put the US if they're allowed to

1890
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: leave Turkey, which apparently is an if, could really put

1891
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: the US in a very difficult spot here.

1892
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we're flagging into everybody, just because we're

1893
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: aware of how crazy the last one went and it

1894
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: caused a major stand up. I remember that very vividly

1895
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: at the time. That was a huge news story and

1896
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 2: it took over absolutely. It almost broke diplomatic relations to

1897
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 2: turn into a whole thing. So if this one is

1898
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 2: allowed to go through or you know which air Towan,

1899
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 2: it certainly would be in his political interest to do so.

1900
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: It's not as if though the US wouldn't be trying

1901
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 2: to pressure it behind the scenes to dr block it

1902
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: as well. But if they find their way over there,

1903
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 2: everybody tune in because that is going to be a

1904
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: standoff for you know, for the ages.

1905
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 4: I certainly believe, so yeah, absolutely, let's move on.

1906
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Final thing, Crystal appeared on the Piers what is it

1907
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: called Piers Morgan uncensored?

1908
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 6: Is that what it is?

1909
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Beer's Moregan uncensored And there were some fiery exchanges.

1910
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: One gentleman in particular on the panel just wouldn't shut up.

1911
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 2: But we did cut some of the highlight reels to

1912
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 2: the extent that we were able to pull some. Let's

1913
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: take a liston.

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01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 9: I mean, I can listen.

1915
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 17: I believe fundamentally in the right to free democratic protest.

1916
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 17: I mean it's the bedrock of any free democratic country,

1917
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 17: but I don't believe in violent hate rhetoric. And if

1918
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 17: you're a Jewish student at one of these colleges hearing

1919
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 17: some of these chants, which we're all hearing, it's pretty terrifying.

1920
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 3: Isn't it.

1921
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 4: Well here's what I would say.

1922
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: First of all, I go wajahat and saying I'm glad

1923
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: that both of our two co panelists are okay, and

1924
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I certainly support the call for justice for Joseph, and

1925
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I hope his assailant is in fact apprehended and accountability

1926
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: is meted out. It's disgusting and frankly a cheap trick

1927
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: to use some isolated incidents to smear an entire protest movement.

1928
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's very clear what's going on here.

1929
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, a majority of young people and a majority

1930
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 1: of college students, majority of Biden voters believe that Israel

1931
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: is committing a genocide and that American taxpayer dollars are

1932
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: going to assist in that genocide. They're outraged by that,

1933
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 1: and they're protesting. And by the way, the one.

1934
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 9: On Jews and you are clearly you must and Jews,

1935
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 9: am I going to be allowed.

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01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 6: To be here?

1937
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 4: Am I going to be allowed to speak here?

1938
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 1: Okay?

1939
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 4: So a majority of.

1940
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Israel is committing a genocide and they are protesting that.

1941
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, they've won the argument. If you

1942
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: look at now, it's sixty forty against sending military aid

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Speaker 1: to Israel. It's a majority that disapprove in America of

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Speaker 1: Israel's action with regards to the Gaza strip. So it's

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Speaker 1: a cheap trick as old as time, use a few

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Speaker 1: isolated incidents to try to smear an entire movement. Which

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Speaker 1: has the benefit number one of attempting to delegitimize it

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Speaker 1: and number two of distracting from the continued atrocities which

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Speaker 1: are unfolding at the hands of the IDF in the

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Speaker 1: Gaza strip.

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Speaker 4: So this is listen.

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Speaker 1: I condemn anti Semitism. I certainly condemn violence. But let's

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Speaker 1: be serious about who the villains are.

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Speaker 9: Right now, would you agree that Hamas are the.

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Speaker 3: Hang on? I've asked a question. Would you agree?

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Speaker 1: Of course the villains terrorists, and so is the Israeli

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Speaker 1: government given the number of civilians that they have intentionally

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Speaker 1: targeted and killed, including targeting with a complete siege which

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Speaker 1: has triggered a famine. So, first of all, intefada means

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Speaker 1: uprising from the river to the sea. Somehow, when it's

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Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin Nan Yahoo using that phraseology, you're holding

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Speaker 1: up a map that literally shows Israel.

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Speaker 4: From the river to the sea. Can you please, dude,

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Speaker 4: just for a second, okay.

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Speaker 9: Calling you.

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Speaker 3: So listen, it's a lot there. I don't really know

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Speaker 3: that man is too much.

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Speaker 1: That is did not shut up the entire It was

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Speaker 1: not just me, it was everyone, including peers. Peers are

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Speaker 1: trying to ask me a question. You wouldn't even shut

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Speaker 1: up to let the host ask a question. It was

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Speaker 1: such a waste of time, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: like that that you saw there. It was a freaking

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Speaker 1: forty minute segment. That was the most I was able

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Speaker 1: to get in because this man was just ranting and

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Speaker 1: raving the entire time. I was like, what are we

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Speaker 1: doing here? What is the point of this? And the

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Speaker 1: point is just a circus, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, no, no shade Peers, but I have

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Speaker 2: feel like that is just continuing the what we saw

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Speaker 2: there is exactly the issue I've had with a lot

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Speaker 2: of the clips that I've seen go viral from his show,

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Speaker 2: and that's I exactly even told all the people when

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Speaker 2: I moderated at zero Hedge debate, I was like, look, guys,

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Speaker 2: I think everyone there had been on Peers or had

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Speaker 2: participated in something similar, and I was like, we're not

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Speaker 2: doing that here.

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Speaker 3: I was like, we're not screaming over each other.

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Speaker 2: And it does require I mean, in the future, what

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Speaker 2: I would recommend to them is, and I wish i'd

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Speaker 2: had this too, you should be able to cut people's

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Speaker 2: bike they're doing something, because there's just a nightmare otherwise

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Speaker 2: and it just destroys the entire discussion absolutely super annoying. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it makes it difficult on your part. It makes it difficult,

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Speaker 2: you know, even for the other people. What Jahad and

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Speaker 2: others who proticipated, it's like, hey man, this takes time

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Speaker 2: out of people's day, Like you got to make this

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Speaker 2: actually worth not just our while, but there's an actual

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Speaker 2: audience that is out there. They're the ones who this

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Speaker 2: is supposed to be to their benefit. That is also

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Speaker 2: lost in some of this too.

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Speaker 1: The other woman who was there said all kinds of

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Speaker 1: things that I wildly disagree with, but he could have

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Speaker 1: had an exchange that was much more more interesting than

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Speaker 1: just this man like ranting incoherently.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It was anyway, like I said before, it made me

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Speaker 1: very grateful for this me. I always asked myself when

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Speaker 1: I get asked to do these things, like you know,

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Speaker 1: go on peer short show or whatever, I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: do I not want to do it just because it's

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Speaker 1: like I'm my conference zones, it's got to be confrontational whatever,

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Speaker 1: Like am I just being like a baby and that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't feel like doing it? Or is it

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Speaker 1: like is there a legitimate reason, and this was a

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Speaker 1: reminder that there are at least some legitimate reasons. Although

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Speaker 1: I do blame myself in part because I made the

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Speaker 1: very rookie move of agreeing before I knew who the

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Speaker 1: other panelists were going to be.

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Speaker 4: I knew the topic, yeah, but I didn't know who

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Speaker 4: I was going to be on with.

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Speaker 1: And next time, if there is a next time, that

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Speaker 1: I will not make that mistake again.

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Speaker 4: Although the other thing they'll do is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know specifically in Peers, but people

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Speaker 1: will they'll like switch out guests and so there's no sties.

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Speaker 2: Look, I had two hours to moderate Israel debate before people,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't enough time.

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Speaker 18: You guys had what twenty minutes something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: it's just it just it's not possible. In general, I

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Speaker 18: feel like four people is two. It is way too

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Speaker 18: get two people who are solid and can really like

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Speaker 18: get into it. And to me, it's much more interesting

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Speaker 18: because the minute you add all these voices, you're just

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Speaker 18: asking for this chaos, circus carnival atmosphere, and it becomes

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Speaker 18: very difficult to drill down on a point because if

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Speaker 18: you are trying to do a good job modering, make

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Speaker 18: sure you spread the time around, like you know, by

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Speaker 18: giving people equal time, it means that if you've got

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Speaker 18: two people are really going in on something, they're going

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Speaker 18: to be cut short too. So anyway, whatever it is,

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Speaker 18: it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to Peers for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate the opportunity and trying to be ungrateful

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Speaker 1: here and I you know, there is an irony though

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Speaker 1: to the fact that his show, I guess is called

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Speaker 1: Piers Morgan uncensertain He's on there like let's censor these

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Speaker 1: college kids.

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Speaker 3: Speaking. It does see a lot of that very different in.

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Speaker 4: The UK, which Kim's fairness, Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 3: He definitely found that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so it's funny because to me, I will

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Speaker 2: never forget Peers because of that whole gun control thing

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Speaker 2: back in twenty thirteen. Whenever he's seeing the show is

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Speaker 2: canceled because that is when his like UK conservatism mashed

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Speaker 2: up against America and it did not work out well.

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Speaker 1: And listen, he should give himself more credit because he

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Speaker 1: has been one of the big platforms for pro Palestinian

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Speaker 1: activists that aren't allowed on a lot of other channels,

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Speaker 1: and so he has genuinely had a platform that has

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Speaker 1: been open to free speech, so you know, don't get

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Speaker 1: squeamish about it when it's you know, things that make

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Speaker 1: people uncomfortable that's subject to right now, just a total

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Speaker 1: like unhinged moral panic that.

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Speaker 4: Is really disconnected.

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen from reports on the ground, from

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Speaker 1: the reality of what's unfolding up these college campuses.

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Speaker 4: True what I would say, all right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching.

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Speaker 2: Become a Premium member if you can, and look out

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Speaker 2: for tomorrow Ryan and Emiley You're gonna have a great

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Speaker 2: counterpoint show.

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Speaker 3: We will see you all on Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Keep Keep.

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Speaker 19: Shop, ShopKeep shut, Keep.

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Speaker 3: It shut with

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Speaker 6: Shot