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Speaker 1: We're back inside the Indiana Construction Industry radio studio with

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Speaker 1: JJ Stangovitz. I'm Matt Taylor and it's our pleasure right

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Speaker 1: now to be joined by DeAndre Smith, the new running

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Speaker 1: backs coach for your Indianapolis Colts. Coach, welcome to Indianapolis, man,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing excellent. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. So I gotta ask you,

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Speaker 1: coming over from the Giants taking this position with the Colts,

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Speaker 1: what attracted you to you know, hit your wagon if

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Speaker 1: you will. To Shane Stiken, Well, Shane and I go

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Speaker 1: way back. He was a graduate of since that UNLV

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Speaker 1: years ago, oh nine, I want to say, and I

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Speaker 1: got in just the thing that struck me the most

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Speaker 1: was a young, energetic, smart coach that I thought, man,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty sharp, and we hit it off, obviously worked together.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be an opportunity after that

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Speaker 1: one season to work somewhere else. It didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: I ended up going to University of Illinois, but we

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Speaker 1: always stayed in contact, and you know, when he got

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Speaker 1: this opportunity, of course I was happy for him. And

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Speaker 1: and throughout the years there's been a couple of times

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Speaker 1: where he actually helped me get an interview here with

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Speaker 1: Frank in twenty eighteen, and then a interview with them

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Speaker 1: in Philly a couple of years ago with Nick because

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Speaker 1: Nick was here. So it was just one of those

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Speaker 1: things that we've been trying to get together for a while,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just thankful that has happened now, you know,

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Speaker 1: for those that don't realize, I mean that that's such

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Speaker 1: a fascinating part of the aspect of coaching that I

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Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize. You know, you

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Speaker 1: interview for a job, you might not get it, or

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Speaker 1: but at the same time, you don't burn bridges, right,

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Speaker 1: and you save those connections and you save those relationships

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Speaker 1: because you never know, right, you never know if And

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Speaker 1: I go back to with Shane being a gradual assistant,

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Speaker 1: and I've heard all these horror stories how coaches treat

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Speaker 1: graduate assistants and if I would never do that, but

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Speaker 1: I know coaches have, and if I would have, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, he would have had a bad experience working

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Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, guess what it. Guess what? And I

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Speaker 1: called back, Hey, shan't remember me from you? And LV, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do remember you. Yeah, exactly exactly and no, and

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Speaker 1: move on right, So you don't know, and and and again.

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Speaker 1: There's been times I've interviewed for a job and the

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Speaker 1: time and of it just didn't work out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm always thankful and say, hey, I appreciate it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. And you know, the twenty

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Speaker 1: great job. I thought I interviewed well, I was told

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Speaker 1: it was it led to one opportunity to another opportunity,

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Speaker 1: and here I am. Last year, you you did break

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Speaker 1: to see an up close view of it in UH

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen. Um, what do you learn just about the

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Speaker 1: differences in coaching college players versus NFL players because you

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Speaker 1: coach a number of talented college players, Mickel Ashore, Michael Turner,

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Speaker 1: The thing that I realized once I got to the

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Speaker 1: he's a fantastic human being. Number two. Obviously he's a

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Speaker 1: that's DeAndre Smith with US, a running backs coach now

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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. For you, like you said, last

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Speaker 1: and their recall is amazing to me. You miss the

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you proved me wrong. Now that's good to hear.

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Speaker 1: That's good stuff right there. That's DeAndre Smith. He is

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Speaker 1: the new running backs coach for the Indianapolis Colts. Coach

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Speaker 1: is great to meet you, great to talk to you,

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