1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, Peepsen, and welcome to Okay Daily with Meet 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Long Island Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to bring this episode to you today 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: with John Idarola, who is the host of the Damage Report, 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: which is a part of the Young Turk's Network. Because 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, John and I go through a host of 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: headlines that we've been inundated with, but one of them 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: I want to really lift up today, which is my 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: absolute and total fucking aggravation with the way in which 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the media continues to cover mass shootings, particularly those that 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: are directed and targeted at marginalized communities. So, whether it 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: was the shooting that took place only six months ago 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: in Buffalo where several black shoppers lost their lives at 14 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: the grocery store there, whether it is you know what 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: just happened in Colorado at Club Q and LGBTQ Club 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: where five people were murdered and several more injured by 17 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: a shooter that was subdued, thankfully by very brave patrons 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: of the club. You know, I'm just tired of listening 19 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: to the fucking media say, well, we don't have all 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: of the details yet, so we don't know if it 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: was a hate crime. If you are going into a 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: fucking gay establishment and shooting it up and passing by 23 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: a whole host of other bars in places that you 24 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: could go to, what else are we supposed to fucking infer? 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: And also if you don't leave behind a manifesto, as 26 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: was the case with the Buffalo shooter, but it is 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: all black people that are shot and killed, or all 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Asian people that are shot and killed as what happened 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: at a salon a couple of months ago, as well, like, 30 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: are we just supposed to pretend that white supremacy, white 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: nationalist rhetoric does not have real fucking world consequences? Like 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: are we just supposed to all act as if you know, words, 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: sticks and stones may break my bones, but words don't 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: actually hurt me? Are we dumb? Because that's what I 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: think the mainstream media wants us to believe, right, is that, oh, 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: there is no real link between Rhonda Santists passing don't 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Say gay legislation, between Greg Abbott passing anti trans and 38 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: anti LGBTQ legislation and criminalizing parents that want to have 39 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: and create an environment of affirmation for their trans child 40 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: and the violence that we are seeing on the rise. 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Do we think that there's no correlation between Donald Trump 42 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: referring to African nations as shit whole countries between that 43 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: Trump administration referring to COVID nineteen as kung flu and 44 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: then you seeing the escalation and anti black and anti Asian. Hey, Like, 45 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm just sick of the bullshit, and I'm sick of 46 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: us allowing the media to continue to lie to us 47 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: and place it on us in the vein of neutrality, Like, 48 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: oh well, we need to get all of the fucking facts. 49 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Here are the facts, and let me make them really 50 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: fucking clear. The facts are these. The facts are that 51 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has become a white supremacist stronghold. That 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: is who their base is, that is who their people are. 53 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: That white evangelical Christians that they hold up as this 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: religious sort. Would rather vote for a man in Georgia 55 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: who has repeatedly gotten abortions and paid for abortions for 56 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: his girlfriends, couldn't pull together two sentences from the Bible 57 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: if his life depended on it, as opposed to voting 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: for an actual reverend who preaches at the same church 59 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: that Martin Luther King Junior did right. So it's this 60 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: idea we are supposed to allow all of the facts 61 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to come in and the chips to fall before we 62 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: recognize that there are direct consequences between Marjorie Taylor Green 63 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: and the Republican Party referring to queer people as groomers 64 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and pedophiles and then acts of violence that are taken 65 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: out against that same community. Are you dumb? Right? And 66 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: so that's kind of my feeling when I'm watching the 67 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: news and I was doing so, you know, with my mom, 68 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: and she was just like, I mean, does everyone need 69 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: to walk in shooting and saying like anti Semitic slurs 70 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: in order for us to recognize that there is anti 71 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Jewish attacks that are on the rise. Do you need 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: to have the N word literally tattooed on somebody's body 73 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: to recognize again that they are rabid racist? Like, I'm 74 00:04:52,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: just so fucking tired of not providing contacts, not connecting 75 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: the dots, and thinking that somehow you are unbiased. These 76 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: journalists have a responsibility to tell audiences the fucking truth, 77 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: to let them know that there is direct consequences between 78 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the rise and political violent rhetoric that is coming from 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: only one goddamn party in this country. It is not 80 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: a both sides issue because you do not see Democrats 81 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: ever or hear Democrats ever other than referring to the 82 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: actions that this party is taking as authoritarian and fascist, 83 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: because they are right. But I'm not going to pretend 84 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: that the ship that Donald Trump said while he was president, 85 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: that the ship that you hear in the legislation that 86 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: is being passed that is trying to erase black Indigenous 87 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: people of color, that is trying to erase LGBTQ people 88 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: from our classrooms, from our societies at large, is not 89 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: directly correlated to the violence that is happening against these communities. 90 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: That's just bullshit, right. The danger that we have here, folks, 91 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: is people not holding these political leaders accountable and saying 92 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: that what they're offering in the way of their thoughts 93 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and prayers are enough. If it was, folks, then there 94 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a series of fucking mass shootings that 95 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: have happened between May with the Buffalo shooting and what 96 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: just happened at Club Q right like, there just wouldn't 97 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: have been slew. And I'm tired of the lies because 98 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: they are actually costing people their fucking lives and somebody 99 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: on top of the gun manufacturers need to be held 100 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: accountable for that. So John Iderola and I will get 101 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: into a larger conversation about rhetoric about the mainstream media 102 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: and about the Republican Party and where in fact Kevin 103 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy is going to fall in the elevation of members 104 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: of Congress like Marjorie Taylor Green and others. That conversation 105 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: is coming up next, folks. I am very excited to 106 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: welcome to Okay f for the very first time the 107 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: host of the Damage Report, John Idarola, who is part 108 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: of the Young Turk's network and is daily daily you 109 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: can find him breaking down all of the threats that 110 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: we are facing in our country and the world. John, welcome, 111 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. So So where to begin? You know, it's 112 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: like what part of the sewer would you like to 113 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: dive into first that I refer to as our democracy. 114 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I think where I want to start is with the 115 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: umpteenth mass shooting that we have now has all come 116 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: on our radar, that took place in Colorado. Colorado has 117 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: been the been ground zero for multiple mass shootings that 118 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: make headlub that have made headlines over the years. This 119 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: one at Club Q and LGBTQ plus nightclub. Five people 120 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: are dead. I believe over fifteen or some odd had 121 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: been shot and injured. Thank god, the gunman was taken 122 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: down by patrons inside of the club that were able 123 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: to hold them until police arrived. Let me just ask you, 124 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, another headline, another shooting. What do you make 125 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: of this? Yeah? Well so, yeah, I don't know how 126 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: many of these you've had to cover in your career, 127 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, they're pretty much constant. And the thing that's 128 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: most amazing about these is how every one of these 129 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: terrible acts of violence has its own unique flavor, either 130 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: in geography or the particular type of establishment that was attacked, 131 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: or the particular group that was targeted. And yet there 132 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: are so many things that are almost always the same 133 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: between all of them. You start to feel kind of 134 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: sick that, you know, you know the phases that the 135 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: media is going to go through, you know the phases 136 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: that the politicians are going to go through. They're going 137 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: to send out the stock canned responses, and almost nothing 138 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: will change that will make it any less likely that 139 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the same or similar sorts of attacks will happen in 140 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the future. When we were talking about this on my 141 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: show this morning, my co host Dan Evans said that 142 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: he only briefly detoured due sadness before moving to rage, 143 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: and I said, I, you know what, honestly, I don't 144 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: even know that I was at sadness because I just 145 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: instantly felt in my gut, I know what all of 146 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: those who've been pushing hatred against the LGBTQ plus community 147 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: are going to say. I know what those who are 148 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: in the pocket of like of you know, the big 149 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: gun manufacturers are going to do to stop any sort 150 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: of reforms. It just feel it makes you feel so 151 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: help you know. Yeah, it's just a consistent rinse and repeat, 152 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: and you know, and and to your co host point, 153 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I was in bed right as 154 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: many people were. The alert came across, you know, my 155 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: phone from the New York Times, and I don't even 156 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: think I paused at sadness. I think that I went 157 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: directly into rage because what I realized is that it's 158 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: only been six months since the Buffalo shooting that took 159 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: place at the supermarket in Buffalo, where a white supremacist 160 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: went in and killed supermarket shoppers, black supermarket shoppers on 161 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: a Saturday morning for no other reason than they were 162 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: black and had the audacity to you know, be living. 163 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Then fast forward and we had classroom of children killed. 164 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Then we had people picked off at the parade. Right 165 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: They're out at a you know, at an Independence Day 166 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: parade and they were shot from you know, from the 167 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: roofs I just like, I don't know how we're supposed 168 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: to continue to have these conversations in media without actually 169 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: drawing attention to the fact that what you say, the 170 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: rhetoric that these right wing politicians have have real world consequences, 171 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: and every time that someone like us says these things, 172 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: we're told now is not the time. Now is not 173 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: the time John for us to make logical connection of dots. 174 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: So what do you make of that pushback of now 175 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: is not the time or you know, Lauren Bobert she 176 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: also sent out tweeted out her thoughts and prayers on 177 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: the issue. This is the one who everyone knows who 178 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: had a restaurant where the servers carried nine millimeters on 179 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: their hips, and she's tweeting out her thoughts and prayers 180 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: on top of hoping that you know, our national school 181 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: curriculum would turn into Florida, which is notorious now for 182 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: the don't say gay bill. Yeah, yeah, Lauren Bobert, who 183 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: I defy anyone to find a photo of her with 184 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: her family that doesn't involve at least two a R fifteens. Yeah, 185 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: she hates the community. She loves guns. That's it. That's 186 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: what she's going to do. She put out a statement 187 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: like ostensibly condemning the violence. Everyone should go look at 188 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: that tweet and you tell me who was attacked, because 189 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: you can't tell from the tweets she sent out. Who's 190 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: to say what community was being targeted in this? She's 191 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: certainly not going to say that, because then the line 192 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: between who was attacked and the sorts of hate speech 193 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: that she's been encouraging would be all too clear. Yeah, 194 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: she's been an active participant in this. They all thought 195 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: it was fun in games. The base lows it when 196 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: you demonize people and you declare that your enemies are 197 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: our groomers. This quannonization of Republican politics, where everyone disagree 198 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: with wants to murder and or sexually assault your child, 199 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: ye disgusting and it has clear consequences. I'm glad that 200 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: you pointed out in Buffalo, but there was also the 201 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Walmart shooting in ye Passo. There were the women that 202 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: were the Asian women that were killed in the SPA. 203 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Like how many incredibly clear targeting that immediately that follows 204 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: the hatred, whether it's over COVID nineteen or supposed caravans 205 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: and all that, it's just constant. And every time it happens, 206 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: they'll say, well, it doesn't by the way, it doesn't 207 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: even matter if the guy has like a manifesto, like 208 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: super clear record, as with the guy who tried to 209 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: bash in Paul Pelosi's skull. And by the way, we're 210 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: not supposed to make links to politics, but they can 211 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: start joking about this guy almost being killed. Immediately they 212 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: will say, well, he's just crazy. This is a crazy loaner. 213 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: And I will say, and many people will say what 214 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: we always say, which is yes, America is a place 215 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: that is filled with crazy loaners, and some of them 216 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: are looking to be told who to target, and that 217 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: Lauren Boberg is not going to take a totally sane 218 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: person and get that person to go shoot up a target. 219 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: But if they are crazy people and you fill them 220 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: full of conspiracy, theories about George Soros organizing Guatemalan caravans, 221 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: then maybe they'll pick up the gun for that. And 222 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: that's my fear that they are weaponizing our mental health 223 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: crisis for their own political ends. You know, I want 224 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: to stay on this for a minute because I have 225 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: to say too that you know, when you have the 226 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: likes of a Marjorie Taylor Green who stood up at 227 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: rally's saying that Democrats are trying to kill us, when 228 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: you use terms like you brought up groomer and pedophile, 229 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: and people are thinking to themselves, well, I have to 230 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: save the children, right, and I have to do whatever 231 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: it's going to take in order to save the children 232 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: if it harms a few people. I mean, this was 233 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: the logic behind blowing up abortion clinics, right, or shooting 234 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: up abortion. I have to save the children. And so 235 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: how do you think responsibly mainstream media makes these contextual 236 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: contextualizes what is happening, and makes these links in a 237 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: way where it's not um considered biased to tell the 238 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: truth that when you put cross hairs, which Sarah Palin 239 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: did you know years back, when you put crosshairs on 240 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: members of Congress, and then you turn around and be 241 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: surprised that they're that they're shot and all, and attempted 242 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: murder happened. Like I how do you make that case 243 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: in mainstream media these days? Yeah, I think it's difficult. 244 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I think that the media is still really bad at 245 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: pointing out certain types of radical rhetoric and lies. They're 246 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: they're hesitant to declare that extremely powerful people are just 247 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: openly lying or openly soaking hate. They don't like to 248 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: do that. But at the very least they do seem 249 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to be They seem to be pretty free to declare 250 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: that like Marjor Green's a crazy person. They don't seem 251 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: to be too worried about declaring that she's insane, or 252 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Paul Gosara is saying something dangerous, or Matt Gates is 253 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: a creep. They'll do that, So that's important. People need 254 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: to understand who these people are. Putting their current statements 255 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: in the context of things they've said and done in 256 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: the past can be useful. But I also think that 257 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: at least this isn't gonna work in every area. But 258 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: one thing they can do to disarm these sorts of 259 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: attacks is to make it so that a fairly ignorant 260 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: nation ignorant when it comes to certain communities, isn't ignorant. 261 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: It's easier to demonize the trans community if the only 262 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: thing people have heard about the trans community has come 263 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: from a transphobic YouTuber. And there's a reason that I 264 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: think that they're focusing on the trans community because other 265 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: areas of the LGBTQ plus community aren't as unknown, aren't 266 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: as hidden in the shadows as they were ten years 267 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: ago when the Republics would have just been demonizing them. 268 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: The trans community is still relatively new because there's not 269 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: a lot of representation in media or on the news. 270 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: Look at the conflation of the culture of drag queens 271 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: with the trans community. The media would make sure that 272 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: people understand that the being a drag queen is not 273 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: the same as being trans. It isn't necessarily a statement 274 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: about your sexuality at all. It is a culture, it's 275 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: not a sexual thing. And so if America knew more 276 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: about these communities, they might be a little bit more 277 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: resistant to weaponizing the ignorance against these communities. I think, John, 278 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: you're making too much sense, and clearly you're making you're 279 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: making too much sense on the ways in which you 280 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: know the media can actually educate audiences. But speaking of 281 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: folks who weaponize ignorance, let's talk about Kevin McCarthy and 282 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: the fact that he is about to get the gavel back. 283 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, if he can make it out of getting 284 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighteen other rabid Republicans to vote for 285 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: him to be Speaker of the House again. You know, 286 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: he is taking his direction from Marjorie Taylor Green, he 287 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: is taking his direction from Jim Jordan and other members 288 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: of the Freedom Caucus. So what do you perceive as 289 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy's, you know, next reign as as House Speaker. 290 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: How do you think that that is going to unfold? Yeah, 291 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm waiting to see how crazy we're 292 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: going to get as a nation. I mean, we know 293 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: that like best case scenario, the baseline is pretty crazy, 294 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: pretty much a waste of time of Congress for the 295 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: next two years, they we are going to hear way 296 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: more about Hunter Biden than any regular person has any 297 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: interest in hearing. It's going to be a constant thing. 298 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: So that's going to be annoying. I'm sure that people 299 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: like Anthony Fauci and Mark Garland are going to and 300 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: more time testifying before Jim Jordan and all that, than 301 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: they'd want to, and it's going to be mostly a 302 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: waste of time where people like Jim Jordan and others 303 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: are going to be just giving their little sound bites 304 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: so that they can spread on social media. That doesn't 305 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: bother me so much. I'm more bothered by the opportunity 306 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: cost because having one Chamber of Congress who is letting 307 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: you know ahead of time, but the next two years 308 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: they're not going to accomplish literally anything might be fine 309 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: in a country that's not facing any actual crises, like 310 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: if we didn't need to fix these things, if we 311 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't need legislation, then that might be fine. But there's 312 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of problems that are that are going to 313 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: go unfixed at least for two years. And that's unfortunate. 314 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: The fact that people like Marjorie Green and Paul Gossar, 315 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: who thankfully were stripped of their committee positions after just 316 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: countless instances in social media where they spread conspiracy theories 317 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: and disinformation and normalize political violence, they're going to be 318 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: back on their positions. So that's our country taking a 319 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: big step backwards. So I'm worried about all of that. 320 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: We'll see if we have weekly impeachments of Joe Biden, 321 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: or you know, God only knows what else, the raising 322 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: of the debt ceiling being weaponized to try to destroy 323 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: social security and medicare, I mean, those sorts of things. 324 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: When they go after these big social programs, that's where 325 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: I think they can do the most actual damage. And 326 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: so we'll have to see how willing they are to 327 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: do that. They seem to think that doing as much 328 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: damage as they can economically and making people's economic position 329 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: as precarious as possible will benefit them going in to 330 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But that's only true if they can 331 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: evade some responsibility for and they will technically be in 332 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: power in the House. So I think it's going to 333 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: be on the media and the Democrats to make sure 334 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: that people understand that the Republicans are They've now they've 335 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: gotten what they wanted. Okay, they caught up to the car, 336 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: and now people need to understand the consequences of that. 337 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: We'll see how successful they are. What do you think? 338 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: You know? And my feeling is the same with regard 339 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: to what the Democrats and the media needs to do, 340 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: because I think that the appointments that Democrats make on 341 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: these committees that are now going to be chaired by 342 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Republicans are and we're going to be constantly hammered with 343 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: a circus day in and day out. Is that it's 344 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: going to be up to Democrats to paint that picture, 345 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: to show that narrative, like, here are these people that 346 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: said that they want power, and this is what they 347 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: are doing with it. What is the investigation of Hunter 348 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop doing for your day to day life? And 349 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: if they fact in fact come back with a comparison 350 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: of well, what was January sixth, Well, you're talking about 351 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: thousands of people that broke into our capitol building, defecated 352 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: in the halls of democracy, and beat, you know, police 353 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: officers to death. I think that that may be different 354 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: than an alleged conspiracy that came out of Quranon's fantasy land. 355 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: But Democrats need to make that distinction, and if they don't, 356 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: then we're just going to be inundated with bullshit, um 357 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: for for as long as humanly possible. UM. You know. 358 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy though, on the tip in terms of getting 359 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: rid of people who are crazy, which is what UH 360 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Speaker Pelosi did with Marjorie Taylor Green and Gosar. He's 361 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: come out and said that he's going to strip Adam Schiff, 362 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell and Ilhan Omar of their committee assignments. What 363 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: do you think the pushback needs to be to that. Yeah, yeah, 364 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: that'll be that'll be interesting. I mean, the Democrats in 365 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: the House don't necessarily have a lot of power to 366 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: do anything about that, unfortunately, I mean they can, they 367 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: can try to make a big deal out of it 368 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: in the media, certainly. Um. I think Elan Omar is 369 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: already set and Representive Omar should say, is already saying 370 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: that this is effectively under the guise of being concerned 371 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: about anti Semitism. This is them attacking her for being 372 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: a Muslim, for being Somali Americans. Right, It's important to 373 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: make clear to those communities that these are identities that 374 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: the Republicans feel one hundred percent free to attack without 375 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: any fear of consequences, which is one hundred percent true. 376 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: And also they would they would love to say that 377 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: they're against like censorship, they want free speech. Well, I 378 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: think the case of Representative Omar is a very interesting 379 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: one because, look, I understand that she apologized for them 380 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the tweet that she sent out a couple of years 381 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: ago about being all about the Benjamin's, but to be clear, 382 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: she was talking specifically about a lobbying organization, and so like, 383 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I think, especially in the modern area, with all of 384 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: the anti semitism, I think that is acceptable to tread 385 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: extra carefully to avoid invoking any anti Semitic tropes in 386 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: that area. I believe that that is fair. However, we 387 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: also have to be free to be able to criticize 388 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: a very well funded lob organization that is weighing in 389 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: on many different elections and in many different issue areas, 390 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: and I feel like she needs to be free to 391 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: do that. This is literally years ago. As many people 392 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: pointed out, Representative Amor, a Republican who's now the number 393 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: three amongst Republicans in the House. He said more recently 394 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: that Jewish billionaires are buying the Congress for the Democrats, 395 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: and yet he's not being stripped of any of his positions. 396 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: So at least you could have some consistency there. Anyway, 397 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: with all of the anti semitism we see coming out 398 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of the right just over the past couple of weeks, 399 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be very successful 400 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: in them convincing Jewish Americans that the Democrats are against them. 401 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: I don't like the precedent being said. I don't like especially, 402 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: and I apologize for going on about this. I hate 403 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: that when you finally get consequences for something in America, 404 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: for instance, Gosar and Green being taken off their committees, 405 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: which does not often happen, and brand even happened the 406 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: first couple of times they did something completely unacceptable, but 407 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: you finally got consequences, and we all kind of knew 408 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: that as soon as that happened, the Republicans are going 409 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: to be looking for literally any excuse to turn it 410 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: around the Democrats. I wish that we had a system 411 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: that didn't work that way. That, you know, if the 412 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: Republicans commit an insurrection and we point that out and 413 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: criticize that we don't have everything, the Democrats do be 414 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: called an insurrection by the right. I don't like the 415 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: like devolving everything down to everything's the same, everything's in 416 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: the mud. What Green and Gosar did is not the 417 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: same as what Representative Omar did. Now I don't think 418 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: so either, And I think that what is really problematic 419 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: to me is the fact that I want to see 420 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: how Democrats are going to then if those three members 421 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: are stripped, you unreasonably so, of their committee assignments, then 422 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: how they're going to be elevated? Because I would make 423 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: the three of them the messengers of the Democratic Party. 424 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: I would have them on every single show all the time, 425 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: talking about what the Democrats are fighting for, what it 426 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: is that Republicans are doing. Like, I would turn them 427 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: into the mouthpieces, right because if they're going to be 428 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: freed up with their time, we know that the three 429 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: of them are quite a really good at communications, particularly 430 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: Swallowell and Ship who both played major roles in the 431 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: impeachment trials. And I would turn them into the new 432 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: managers of the Democratic Party and put them everywhere. So 433 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, you thought that you were going 434 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: to shut us up. No, I'm actually going to give 435 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: them a microphone and a platform and say go with God. 436 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Last question for you, John, is you know again I 437 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: have such I take such issue with the kind of 438 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: complicity of mainstream media in the way that they covered 439 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, in the way that they covered the 440 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: candidacy of Donald Trump, and in the way it seems 441 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: that they are going to cover him again his twenty 442 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: twenty four bid. What do you think needs to happen 443 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: if you could control how the media was going to 444 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: move forward in twenty twenty three with their coverage of 445 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, what would that look like? Oh, that's a 446 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: big question. I'm sure there's a lot of newsrooms where 447 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people are debating that. My fear, and 448 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: maybe you share this fear, is that a lot of 449 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: those big news from CNN, MSNBC, who they've been hurting 450 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: in terms of rating since twenty twenty, I'm worried that 451 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: whether they acknowledge it or not, explicitly or not, they're 452 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: going to lapse back into some of the same behaviors 453 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: because it benefited them economically in terms of their rating 454 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: and ad revenue, you know, the last time Trump was around. 455 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I hope that they don't forget how unprecedented he's been 456 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: as even a Republican political figure. I hope that they 457 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: remember that. I hope that, and maybe the events of 458 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: this last weekend will be a reminder that they it's 459 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: easy to talk in a general sense about the threat 460 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: posed by Donald Trump and by the MAGA movement. I 461 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: hope that they center the people who are actually at risk, 462 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: because let's bear in mind, like when if Trump gets 463 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: back into power, Anderson Cooper's gonna be fine. Probably he's wealthy, 464 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, like most people are gonna be fine. It's 465 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: it's the people who's job. Like, I'll be fine, you know, 466 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: whatever I'm I do media stuff, I'm a white male, 467 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be just fine. You have to talk about 468 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: the people who are actually going to be at risk, 469 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: the people who might be deported in mass numbers, the 470 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: people who might have some sort of federal don't say 471 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: gay bill, you know, sponsored, or if the Supreme Court 472 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: decides to go beyond just destroying Roe v. Wade and 473 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: they get rid of same sex marriage, or they go 474 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: after interracial marriage or whatever, like I would. I would 475 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: like to see an approach to him that brings all 476 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: the people who will be hurt and centers their anxieties, 477 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: their fears about what another term for Trump could actually represent. 478 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: And I also hope that they understand along the way 479 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: that it isn't necessarily gonna be Trump, but if it isn't, 480 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: and if it's Rhonda Santis, he's more normal in some ways, 481 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: but that we can't let that lullis into a sense 482 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: of complacency and assume that then everything's great and nobody's 483 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: at risk. So I just I hope that they consider 484 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: things beyond just how this is going to impact them 485 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and the experience of covering the news, because that's not 486 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: representative of a lot of people's experience. Yeah, and I'm 487 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, basically what you're saying, and what I have 488 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: said many many times on this show is that Donald 489 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: Trump was really great for ratings and really bad for 490 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: our democracy, and I wish that, you know, one took 491 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: precedent over the other. John Idaolla, host of The Damage Report, 492 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for making the time to join Woke, 493 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: f and I hope that you will. I'm back soon. 494 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. I would love to as a pleasure. That 495 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke app 496 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: as always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 497 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.