1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium and gets you in touch with your 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I'm Mark Vanderminer here from the Hunday Texans 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Radio studio right outside the Rodeo, buzzing once again every 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: night for three weeks it cooks here at NRG Stadium. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: And we're back after being at the Combine last week. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: We visited with the General briefly last week, but he's 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: back here in the studio for the full Thursday night visit. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: How's it going, John, It's going great, Mark, A great 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: week in Indianapolis for the Combine. Always so much fun. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Now we've got the we're right before the free agent frenzy, 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: but begins Monday with two days in negotiations with free 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: agents from other teams. You can't agree quote unquote, and 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: of course nobody would break that rule. Then they can 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: start signing Thursday at three, and I think we'll see 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: some guys resigning with their teams as a get upright 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: to the deadline. So it's the most exciting time of 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the off season along with the draft. Speaking of guys, 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Reese signing with teams, Jeneveon Clowney gets tagged this week 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: and go with me down this road for a moment. 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: I think he's a very perplexing player. John Clowney when 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: he was drafted number one overall, we didn't know what 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: he was going to become. We thought maybe he would 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: be a sack machine. Everyone saw the highlights from college 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and everything like that. He's not a sack machine. He's 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: a TfL machine. He's great against the run, he's versatile. 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: The numbers don't always show up every week, but that's 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of defensive front seven guys. So how 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: do you rate him? You Radi'll make a hundred million. 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: JJ was the highest paid when he's a pass rusher. 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Von Millard was the highest he's a pass rusher. Aaron 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: donelland Khalil Mack, those guys are double digit sackers every year. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Clowney is fabulous against the run. He plays multiple positions, 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: but he's primarily linebacker. He's smart and he and what 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: he's overcome that thing about him not being the hardest worker. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: How do you overcome microfracture surgery and three other operations 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: on your and not be a hard worker? And uh, 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's because what sets the standard here. But if 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: that's the case, how many guys can keep up with what? So? 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I think we won't see Clowney. I think he'll show up. 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be I don't think he'll miss almost 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: a million dollars a game. How they he'll show up 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: and uh and the defense will be really really good 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: again and there will be some additions. Uh. I would 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: like to see Texas get an inside pass rusher if 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: they lose Cuvington and Blacks and they're gonna need somebody 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: replacing them besides Carlos Watt draft or a free agency 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: for that. Well, first of all, it's a great draft 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: for safeties. It's I'm sorry, it's a great free agent 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: market for safeties, best as ever been. Not a bad 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: draft either, Really a great draft for defensive backs and UH, 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: but offensive tackles in UH free agency, there's Trent Brown 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: and that's it. On the left side. There's three others 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that play the right side. I thought the most revealing 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: thing Brian Gaines said at the combine was they expect 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Chandrew Henderson be the starting right tackle. To me, that 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: means they're not going to go out inside a veteran 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: right tackle Davenport can play go both. So the tart 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: there's not a left tackle. Trent Brown's gonna want to 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: brink Struck backed up to his house after one good 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: year with the Patriots, and after him, they're all right tackles. 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: So that means left tackle would be something for the draft. 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: But right now all we know about the draft, all 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: those top tackles, they say, well, they might be better inside, 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: they might be better on the right side. The two 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: pure left tackles, Andre Dillard of Washington State, who I'd 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: love to see come here. He's long gonna be long. 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Gonge Greg Little of Old Miss, a multi year starter. 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: He ran slow, his verticals about like mine. Couldn't get 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: a credit card under it. But if they like him, 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't get Greg a little there, or they 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: take a corner and take a couple of tackles in 73 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the second round. But the one thing I believe is 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: they're not gonna get a left tackle in free agency, 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: but they can get other positions. Well, this is a 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: very tough situation, then, isn't it. Because you'll be going 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: into the season with a rookie left tackle, which is 78 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: basically what you had last year, and Davidpord who was 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: year two, and I just don't know how that's gonna go, 80 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and then they put ranking in because they 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: had to move Davidport over right in the Patriots game 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: when Henderson got hurt. You know, you hate to go 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: into the season like that unless it's I mean, a 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: guy like Dillard would be wonderful, but you're not going 85 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to get him, as he said, but maybe you end 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: up with the diamond in the rold. Look. Once upon 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: a time they drafted Dween Brown pretty late in the 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: first round and he was what the sixth tackle off 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the board or the seventh and he turned it into 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: an outstanding starter for them for a long time. Maybe 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: they can get lucky like that again. Well, it happens 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: all the time. Two years ago, Kim Robinson, Jaguars second round, 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: started left tackle for a team and almost made the 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Ryan Ramchick started right tackle. Last year. Indianapolis 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: had two rookies in their offensive line. New England had 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: no number one picks and it's offensive line, and so yes, 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: you can get them. It's just people are so excited 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: about the possibility of getting a better offensive line, starting 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: with tackles as I've told you before, if they draft 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle in the first round and be the 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: first time in history an offensive tackles got an aub 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: standing ovation when he's draft in the first round, usually 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: people like, oh, an offensive lineman. I wanted a skill 104 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: position player, but here people will be just giving him 105 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: a standing ovation. Somebody asked me if at the draft party, 106 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: if they draft a corner in the first round, will 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: it be a subpar reaction from the crowd. Will there 108 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: be booing or something like that because people want to 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: see it an offensive lineman so badly drafted high, I 110 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: would think that the applause wouldn't be as loud. But 111 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: they need both john. In fact, you could argue that 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: they need corner more than they need tax they do. 113 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: The Texans, if they had to, could go into the 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: season with Chantrell Henderson right tackle Julian Davenport at left tackle. 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Now you're like, oh my god, well they went eleven 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: and five. As long as Watson can survive. You know, 117 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: they did to have the best record in history with 118 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Davenport and Kindel Lamb. But I don't think that's gonna happen. 119 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: Maybe Davenport has to start the first two or three games. 120 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, if they get a left tackle, 121 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: they like put that guy in there because he's gonna 122 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: be better. I think he'll be better than Davenport. Something 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: very interesting that O'Brien was asking the combine was would 124 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: you rather have your guys improving or would you rather 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: go get a free agent or a draft choice? Mold 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the draft choice, he said, you always want your guys improving. 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: So Davenport's got to be better in his third year 128 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: than he was the second. Henderson we don't know because 129 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: he went down for the season in the first game. 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: But corners, you got Jonathan Joseph who's gonna be thirty five, 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: and you got Aaron Colvin who was a disappointment, and 132 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: there's no other Well, they have to go get some corners. Yes, 133 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: they'll get a bunch of corners free agency. They'll fortify 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: at corner. You know they're going to that Kevin Johnson 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: release was suspected. Now I don't know how to classify him. 136 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't call him a bust. I think he's an 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: injury bust. I think there are two different kinds of 138 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: busts here. There's guy can't play bust, and then there's 139 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: guy gets hurt a lot bust, and I think that's 140 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: what he is. I think he got hurt a lot, 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: and I don't think any team that signs him can 142 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: be utterly confident, I know he just visited, can be 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: utterly confident that he's gonna stay healthy. They can't. So 144 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get a great deal out there, but 145 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna get an opportunity for sure, because they're in 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: such short supply in the secondary the NFL teams. Kevin's young, 147 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: he's a great guy, works hard. If he didn't get offers, 148 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: but he will. I could see the Texans bringing him 149 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: back for like the minimum and giving him some bonus 150 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: money based on games played and started. It was just 151 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: too much to bring him back with the injury ras 152 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: and because they need you don't just need starters, you 153 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: need backups. Yeah, and that's why I think we'll see 154 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: a veteran who's gonna who's a multi year starter with 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: another team. He's gonna cost quite a bit of money. 156 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: And then another veteran who might be closer to thirty, 157 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: a guy that I'd really like to see the Texans getting. 158 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how fast he is peered this seer 159 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: of the Cults opposing quarterback. The rating was thirty four 160 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: throwing at him. He also led them in tackles. He 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: had his best year in a contract year. They can 162 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: strengthen the Texans and weakened the Cults. Now, the Colts 163 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: got so much money, but Chris Ballard's m is to 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: not participate in the feeding frenzy, let the bodies fall, 165 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and then see what's out there that fits the needs 166 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: like he did last year. So I don't see him 167 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: running out there making Levian Bell the highest paid offensive 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: lineman or trading for Antonio Browners. John Lopez suggested signing 169 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Clowney to an offer sheet and making it unmatchable and 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: giving up two low round picks to his compensation. But 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: and so I think they will sign two corners, and 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I think they draft two carters corners. And I don't 173 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: know what they think about Jermaine Kelly from last season, 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: who was on the hour right all year. Most yeah, 175 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: seventh round pick if they could, if they what they 176 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: think about him. But they're gonna They're gonna sign a 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of undrafted free agent corners because you need bodies 178 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: in camp and you never know when those guys are 179 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna play. A couple of those guys they signed off 180 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: the street last year made some plays. Yeah, I don't 181 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: see trade being a big thing here. Now what about 182 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: first round trade moving up? No, Nope, maybe down down. 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I know Dade would like to have that. Get a 184 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: fourth back when you get down to the twenty third 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: pick to move out of the first round or down 186 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: a few, you don't get a lot of value. You 187 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: might get a four, or you might get it three 188 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: next year. But I could see Brian trading down maybe 189 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: if the two pure left tackles were gone John defensive line, 190 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Angelo Blackson. You look at these free agents, Christian Covington, 191 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Dunne, I mean I need to get at least 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: one of these guys back. Well, Dunne's restricted, and I 193 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: think Brandon will be back. You know, people forget Done 194 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: was a starting nose tackle, Reader was an end right. 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: Blackson and Covington played to run really well. Especially Blackson. 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: I would think there's a better chance that he might 197 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: be resent. You know, the Texans have money. Carlos Watkins 198 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: going in his third year, it's time he stepped up 199 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: and became part of that rotation and played to run 200 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: well and that you know they don't need outside guys. 201 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: They like Duke cag of four going into his second year. 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: Everybody wants an inside pass rusher and they're just hard 203 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: to come back. They are as far as outside pass 204 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: rush goes. Though. John Clowney, he's franchised. You expect him 205 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: to show up at some point and contribute. But don't 206 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: you need some insurance there. I'm not saying draft somebody 207 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: high or whatever, but you wouldn't be surprised if they 208 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: bring somebody in at some point. Maybe it's like they 209 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: brought into Duke. I think they like edge four and 210 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: he's the guy that he will get that position all 211 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,239 Speaker 1: through the offseason program until we see Clowney back. Okay, 212 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: and the rest of the linebacking corps. I mean, when 213 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: you look at inside linebacker, they're in good shape here. Yeah, 214 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: you got three number one picks at outside linebacker and 215 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: a number two and Zach cunning him. That is a 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: serious investment. Imagine if they invested that in the offensive line. 217 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: But linebacker is the least of the problem. Linebacker, tight end, safety. 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: If they bring back Matthew they need besides corners and 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. They need a fourth receiver, They need 220 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: a third running back, and I don't. There's so many 221 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: running backs out there, you know, Brian Gaine and Bill O'Brien. 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: They can find a running back. Whether it's a low 223 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: pick in a draft and free agency, it's hard. It's 224 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to convince a veteran receiver come here 225 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: because he'd say, hey, you know I'm not going to start. 226 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Why would I want to go there? And you say, well, 227 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: they're starter. One of their starters hurt all the time, 228 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: and but you'd have to that guy would have to 229 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: take a contract based on how much time he gets 230 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: and in a perfect world Fuller's stays healthy. Do they 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: believe Carter is a good backup in the slot behind 232 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: QT or do they think they need to go out 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: and find another slot corner. There's a lot of slot receiver. 234 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: There are a lot of slot receivers out there on 235 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the free agent market. They want big bucks and they're 236 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: not getting it. Okay, the market is not kind to them. 237 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of a buyer's market there. I think certainly 238 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna get some kind of some kind of receiver 239 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: in here at a high rate, whether it's a free agent. 240 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: What about Golden Tate? Johnny was asking me about him. 241 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna make some money. He's not exactly 242 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: a young man anymore. But they're kind of like that. 243 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of like that Damarius Thomas acquisition, you know, 244 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: where you're getting an older guy, a little bit older anyway, 245 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: and he's just there to help and be there for 246 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: an insurance policy that you will use. You will use 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: this insurance in all likelihood because you cannot assume that 248 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: QT and full are going to stay healthy to entire 249 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: season based on what you've seen so far. Kate's better 250 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: inside than outside. But Tate wants to start and he 251 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: couldn't start here if everybody's healthy. So another a guy 252 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: that I like is John Brown. John Brown left Arizon 253 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: a big deep threat when Bruce arians is there. He 254 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: goes to Baltimore and he played well when Flacco was in. 255 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Then Flacco got hurt Lamar Miller started running around all 256 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: over the place and he didn't do much. And he's unrestricted. 257 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine. A guy like that who is kind 258 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: of like fuller speed guy that maybe a guy like 259 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: John Brown would be good for here, and if they 260 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: want another slot, guy called Beasley Adam Humphries. The guy's 261 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: gonna cost the most money inside. Washington's Jamison Crowder. And 262 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: but he's been making a lot of money, and I 263 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: don't think the Texan's good after him. But there are 264 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: some guys I could see him signing. A veteran slot 265 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: guy and a veteran outside guy. The General stays with us. 266 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk quarterbacks, next quarterbacks, the combine and quarterbacks in 267 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: their second or third year who are making some noise 268 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's Texans Radio, John McLean joining us 269 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Thursday evening, Texans All Access as usual, as we always 270 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: have fun with the General here and John, let's get 271 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: into it with some more combined stuff and free agency 272 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: stuff with the quarterback position in play, Let's start with 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: the free agents and the Domino effect taking place. All right, 274 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: So we know about Joe Flacco going to Denver. Where 275 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: does Case Keenum end up? Does Josh Rosen figure into 276 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: the Keenom sweepstakes at all? I mean, you have teams 277 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: like Miami and Washington and they have some uncertainty there 278 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: to say the least. I mean a lot of different 279 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: things can happen as we get into next week and 280 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the draft case, Keenum will be cut, Blake Bortles will 281 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: be cut, Ryan Tannehill, Teddy Bridgewaters free agent. There are 282 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of free agent quarterbacks going to be out there. 283 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: You can't judge Josh Rosen based on his rookie year 284 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: because the talent around him was awful, the offensive line 285 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: was terrible. I would rather have Rosen, who they obviously 286 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: thought a lot of, to trade two pick three picks 287 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to get him. Wouldn't you rather have him and the 288 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: best player to draft, whether it's Nick Boza or Quinnin Williams, 289 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: one of those two guys to bolster your pass rush 290 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: because Murray is such a chance. And then if Kingsbury 291 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: gets fired in two years and next coach comes in says, man, 292 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I want a pocket passer, and Rosen's got some mobility. 293 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: People are saying, oh, they might get a three or two. 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: I guarantee you I've been here in New England for Rosen. Yeah. 295 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I would say, hey, we'll give you last pick in 296 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: the first round for Rosen and then let him go 297 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: learn behind Brady a couple of years. His contract is 298 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: great for three more years, and I think when all 299 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: sudden does Steve Kim, the general manager, is a personnel guy. 300 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what Kingsbury says. I think Kim will 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: stick unless the owner of Michael Bidwell says man Murray 302 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: would create a buzz. Think of the interest here. And 303 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: it's not like the diamondbacks of the Suns are any good, 304 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: so it's not like they've got to keep up. But 305 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: there is a buzz about Murray, but it's he bought 306 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: all of It's good John, So what about what Casually 307 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: said about it? First of all, him weighing two of 308 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: seven and not working out, people think he probably ate 309 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: everything in sight. Then he'll lose weight and he walked 310 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: away at his pro day. They'll ask him to because 311 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: he knows he's gonna run. Like people say that Oliver 312 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: must eat ever stake between Houston and Indianapolis to have 313 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: his weight up to two eighty seven, and he didn't 314 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: work out, Then he'll probably lose weight here and have 315 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: a great workout because he's a tremendous talent and quickness 316 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: is his strength. As far as Charlie Casually, I felt 317 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: bad for David Carr because after Charlie was so critical 318 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: quoting sources in the rooms, telling him how what a 319 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: disaster Murray was, and I didn't hear that from anybody. 320 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: People are saying, why why would you pay the attention 321 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: to Charlie cash Lead drafted David Carr and David's homes 322 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the same network, and his name's getting run through the 323 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: mud just because of this. And then Mike Florio had 324 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: a story that I think is pretty amazing. I didn't 325 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: know this. Charlie works freelance for an agency and they 326 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: pay him to prepare players for their interviews of the 327 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: combine and then he's told on several outlets that Murray 328 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: obviously had not been prepared. Well, well, that's a conflict 329 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: of interest. Sure what if Murray would have been paid 330 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: and Charlie was paid to help Murray? Would Charlie be 331 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: that critical of him? So that's something that is coming 332 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: out now. I Charlie never been involved in a controversy 333 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: like this, but he sure is now, and I kind 334 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: of bet he wishes he'd just stuck to his analysts, 335 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: his analyst role. Well, I mean, why not just stick 336 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: to being a gentleman. I'm not that he wasn't a 337 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: gentleman here, but you know what I'm saying, just the 338 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: approach to things, because you're right, the fact that he 339 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: preps players for these interviews and then he slammed another 340 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: player who he hasn't prepped. Not good when you're public, 341 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: when you're on the NFL network, and there's plenty of 342 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: other things you can say and still look good on it. 343 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Can be diplomatic. He can be diplomatic about it. Say kids, 344 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: got a great arm, he's a tremendous college career. But 345 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm hearing some of the people in 346 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: the rooms weren't impressed with him on the board when 347 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: he was drawing plays. Instead of saying they said it 348 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: was the worst they've ever seen. Because it's amazing to 349 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: me how many people have taking shots at Charlie over this. Yeah, 350 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: it's like they've let it be personal. I don't blame 351 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: his his agent, Eric Burkhardt, because that's what he's paid 352 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: to do. But a lot of media people are attacking Charlie, 353 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, why, why, why do you? Because they 354 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: love the players and they stick with the players, and 355 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I get it, and it's just the way it is 356 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys. Now, Murray, the baseball thing, 357 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: the Gatorade tour, not answering questions about spring training versus 358 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: NFL work, and I just think it's very cloudy right now. 359 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: I do think he'll be pretty good, and I think 360 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Baker Mayfield did well is certainly a 361 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: big aid to Kyler Murray. Obviously, what Charlie said might 362 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: not be, but I don't know. I don't think. I 363 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: don't think he ends up in Arizona John somehow. I 364 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: think that they pass out him. Mayfield is almost three 365 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: inches taller than he has following three inches and that's 366 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: a big deal. And Murray, I was watching him being interviewed. 367 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: He was wearing a warm up on ESPN by Josina Anderson, 368 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: and she's a former track person who's in great shape, 369 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: and he was as almost as slight as she was 370 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: as far as being thin. And I'm looking at his 371 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: body just looks almost like a teenager. But he's got 372 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: a great arm, and he's smart, and he's productive, and 373 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: he's a winner, and he's overcome. People say he's never 374 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: overcome anything negative. Yeah, he bombed out of an m 375 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: and he transferred that he didn't get to play right 376 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: away because of Mayfield, So he has had to overcome 377 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: some downs as well as take his creating and taking 378 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: advantage of his ups. If you were advising him, would 379 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: you advise him to play baseball or enter the draft? 380 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I'd say going to draft, you've got a chance to 381 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: be the first pick of the seventh pick. You're gonna 382 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: make so much more money before you'd make big bucks 383 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: in baseball. You know, they got to go through arbitration 384 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: before free agency. And just all his publicity he's getting 385 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: is just going to get his value for endorsements to 386 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: go up. He's going to represent all kinds of companies. 387 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: So he's got red And he didn't even hit three 388 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: hundred when he played baseball at Oklahoma, So should be 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a red flag there, because shouldn't 390 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: you be tearing it up in college if you're going 391 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: to be a number one pick. Yes, there's the batting 392 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: averages in college. I tell you one of the dumbest 393 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: things I've seen that he somehow inflated his height. They 394 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: stand there barefooted with their legs together, and if they 395 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: have like a lot of hair, it's mashed down totally. 396 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: So how do you inflate your size? He's not wearing 397 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: lifts and everybody's looking at him. Don't you think all 398 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: these people that have been looking at this for decades 399 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: would know if he's trying to inflate his size. You 400 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: get those fillers that women like to get in their face, 401 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: you get those on your heels or something. I don't 402 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: know what you do. I don't know. You figure it 403 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: out somehow. You know that. To me, it was just ridiculous. 404 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: Some unnamed scout told Dan Patrick other than him, it's 405 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: a very uneventful quarterback class coming in as far as 406 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: buzz and controversy, and you have Haskins. It just doesn't 407 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: feel like it did maybe last year, last year, before 408 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: last year, because everybody was talking about last year before 409 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: the Watson Traubiski Mahomes draft, and this one Haskins is 410 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: the best prospect. And then you have Drew Locke, who 411 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: everybody was detegrating all year. Now stocks going up, and 412 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones of Duke and I don't have in the 413 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: first round. But these guys maybe like two years ago, 414 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: they turned out to be great. And but Haskins is 415 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: so non controversial. No, there's no questions about his size 416 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: or his arm or any of that. It's almost like 417 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: I'm hoping he likes it not having to be in 418 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: the limelight right now like Murray, Because Murray sometimes you 419 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: could tell he's getting kind he's getting tired of it. 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Haskins could drop to a good team, right. No, I 421 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: don't think there's any way. I think Jacksonville is gonna 422 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: sign falls that takes them out of the market. I 423 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: think he'll go to the Giants, or go to Denver, 424 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: or somebody will trade up for it. Redskins, you ask 425 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: earlier about Keenan, what cases like a mercenary. He moves 426 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: around one year at a time. Redskins need a quarterback 427 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: for one year and it's not gonna be Coult McCoy. 428 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: I would love to see Antonio Brown traded the Redskins 429 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: and a quarterback is cult McCoy. How long would it 430 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: be before he started throwing fits on Ends Graham and 431 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: Twitter and all social media that he wasn't getting the ball. 432 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: I think it was Larry Fitzgerald pointed out he doesn't 433 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: know how good he has it with Roethlisberger. Ed Buche 434 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, in his mailbag yesterday, pointed out 435 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't remember Bradshaw going to dinner with Swanner Stalworth, 436 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: yet all three of them are in all of fame. 437 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Why is it so important Tantonio Brown to have a 438 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: better relationship with Roethlisberger When he throws him the ball 439 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: so much while he's calling him out, he's he's not 440 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: a good guy to work and play with us. That 441 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: would worry the heck out of me if I was 442 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: another team. I know in Nashville, my station did an 443 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: unscientific survey that they figured the older you are, the 444 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: less you want him. The younger you are, the more 445 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: you want him. And I'll ask people, does it not 446 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: bother you that the guy was continually late for meetings, 447 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: had one set of rules for him, one set for others, 448 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: called out his quarterback, as coach, his owner, his team, 449 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: and then said they don't play by my rules. They 450 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: don't play. I won't guaranteed money, that's another thing. Will 451 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: he go somewhere if he didn't get his contract redone? Yeah, 452 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: well he not report. Wouldn't you redo that before you 453 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: made the deal? Have an agreement in place? Yes, I'd 454 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: want to know that everything's gonna be paved the right 455 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: way and that he'll be happy walking down that path. 456 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Levan bell John is somebody gonna pay him a lot 457 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: of money. But I think the Jets will. I've been 458 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: saying the Jets forever. A lot of people said Indy. 459 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: He indicated he'd liked to go to Indy. But day 460 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: everybody up, there's a that's not Chris Ballard style to 461 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: play all that kind of money plus morel on Mac 462 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: just aft the Texans in the playoff game. Marlon Mack 463 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: was pretty good in his second season, and he made 464 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: even better in the third. Did not like the way 465 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: he looked from a Texan standpoint in that game. The 466 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: cult's so tough, no doubt about it. The Jaguars, you 467 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: mentioned Nick Foles going to Jacksonville. Is that a done deal? 468 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't. It can't be. They'd be illegal. But you 469 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying hypothetically, everybody speak that he's going 470 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: to the jag wis, but they have huge cap issues. 471 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: They have more kept issue than any other team. Interestingly, 472 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Number two is Tampa. Tampa needs of veterans safety. Tampa's 473 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: got Bruce Arians his head coach and Todd Bowles as 474 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. They were tiring Matthew's head coach, and 475 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. But they don't have the money right now 476 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: without redoing a bunch of contracts or cutting to sign 477 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: anybody's could have cost anything. And I'm guessing Matthew cost 478 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: at least ten million a year. Wow, what was some 479 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: other stuff you heard at the combine about the current 480 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: state of the league and who might be very hot 481 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: next year? Early? Going here before a free agency of 482 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: the track. Let me back up a second. A guy 483 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: really felt sorry for Bryce Love from Stanford. Had he 484 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: come out last year after his two thousand yards season 485 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: great speed, might have been number one pick. Now they're 486 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: talking about you get him in the fourth or fifth round. 487 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Texans get Bryce Love. And 488 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: another one the guy from Flora's at Jocchi Polite an 489 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: outside linebacker he had he ran at four eight four 490 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: and then said he was heard a lot of people 491 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: didn't believe him, didn't do anything else, didn't come across 492 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: well in the interviews. Somebody may get a really good 493 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: undersized pass rusher if he doesn't impress people at the 494 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: pro day and in the private meetings and workouts. And 495 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: the one that everybody was in awe of Montest sweat 496 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: from Mississippi State. Everybody he came out, It's like the 497 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl was coming out party. He impressed everybody there. 498 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: Then he runs a four four one at six six 499 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: two sixty. His agent from Houston, Brian over Street, told 500 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: me he gained twenty pounds between the end of the 501 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: season and to Combine because he wanted to show people 502 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: I could play defensive end as well as outside linebacker. 503 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: And I told over Street, I said, my goodness, what 504 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: would he have run if he has stayed at two 505 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: forty and so that sends everybody back to his film 506 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: to see if he played as fast and athletic as 507 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: he is, and people now I know in my mock 508 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: draft Cleveland was hoping to get him in seventeen. No way, 509 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: you move like that, you're going higher, and I like that. 510 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: They also bright olf Street had Kendall's, a Sheffield from 511 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: here in Ohio State who hurt himself lifting. I feel 512 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: so bad for players who get hurt working out at 513 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: the Combine. Now hopefully he won't have to have surgery 514 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: that he can heal because he's supposed to be at 515 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: four three's. I've also never seen a year mark in 516 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: which the safeties were faster than the corners. If montest 517 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Swet had been a corner, he'd run the fifth best time. 518 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson from you of H six two two oh nine, 519 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: run of four to four oh. This is a guy 520 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Texans get. Jamal Dean Auburn four 521 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: three oh and then some safety. Zedric Woods from Old 522 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Mess runs a four two nine and he had been 523 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: previewed as a free agent, an undrafted free agent or 524 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: low round pick. But those are safety is running like that. 525 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: When they put up numbers like that, that really increases 526 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: the round selection capability. I mean, it's one element of 527 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the whole evaluation process. I think most teams are done 528 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: with their board by the time they get there, but 529 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: they do tweak it, and there was some major tweaking 530 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: going on based on these velocities. I think it's pretty 531 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: inevitable it's going to be in LA with all that, right, 532 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: tell me about that. Let's talk a little bit about Yeah, 533 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: we did talk about Pittsburgh a little, but there's some 534 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: other soap operas going around around the end. I got 535 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: some questions to ask you about the combat. All right, 536 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: let's do it. It's coming up. Texans Radio Mark Vandermer 537 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: with you from the Hyunday Texans Radio studio with John 538 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: McClain from the Houston Chronicle. All right, General, we were 539 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: talking combine. You had some questions for me. Well, I do, 540 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: because there's one year left on the contract at Indianapois. Yes, 541 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: everybody loves it in Indianapolis. It's centrally located. Yes, the 542 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: hospitals have it down pat about all the physicals. I've 543 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: never needed them, but they do. Yes, they have. The 544 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: league loves it. You know, you don't have to rent cars. 545 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: You can walk everywhere downtown and there's plenty of hotels 546 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: and plenty of restaurants and so it's perfect. But it's 547 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: inevitable that it's going to go to La and be 548 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: part of stand Cronky's you Manga's commercial complex out there 549 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: that voting will house the NFL network. But they're talking 550 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: about putting it on prime time, putting it in prime time. 551 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Starting on a smaller scale. Okay, if you're a fan 552 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: at home and you love the NFL, what would you 553 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: like to see the most in the least And I'll 554 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: tell you the thing that I pay you the least 555 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: attention to and did not mention anybody all week, including 556 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: in my Risers, Fallers and Sleepers, is quarterbacks. Watching those 557 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: guys drop back and throw fifteen yard routes in their 558 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: shorts and T shirts is to me a waste of time. 559 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: But what would you like to see? It's the forties, Johns. Yes, 560 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: And I've said this for a long time. I thought 561 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: the NFL is going to finally take me up on 562 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: my suggestion, which is the forties in primetime and call 563 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: it the forties. And you have the receivers. Whoever the 564 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: fastest group might be going the last night, and it's 565 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: usually the receivers. You mentioned the Corners didn't run as 566 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: fast as the Safeties as a group this year. That's 567 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. But you do the fastest guys last, that's exciting. 568 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: I think it's like the Olympics. You want to see 569 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: what they do. Now. Hussein Bolt kind of made a 570 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: mockery of it all nearly when at the Super Bowl 571 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: experience he runs with this record time and his socks 572 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. It wasn't sucks, but it's three clothes. Basically, 573 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: it was normal shoes, normal shoes. Now he is Bolts, Okay, 574 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: so there's that, But that blew my mind, just that 575 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: you know where the fans can run the forty. He's 576 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: running the forty and just shattered twos, didn't he Yeah, 577 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: he just shattered everybody. I like the idea that the 578 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: guys that run the fastest the first forty pair them 579 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: up the next time and run. Would you have running 580 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: backs receivers are in footballs? No? Because who needs to 581 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: see that? Really? Well, I mean, what are you interested 582 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: in seeing? I think the quarterbacks throwing some deep balls 583 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: is fun to watch. I do think that if if 584 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are compelling, then even those fifteen yard outs 585 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: are not exactly compelling, but you'll watch them. When when 586 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, when the Texans at the number one 587 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: overall pick and they were looking for a quarterback, right, well, 588 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: at least that's what we thought at the time. You 589 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: wanted to see manzel, you wanted to see Bordles, you 590 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: wanted to see Derek Carr. You want to see all 591 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: these guys throw. Yeah, that's true, but that's just for 592 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: the Texans. If you're talking about the country, Yeah, they'd 593 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: want to see Manziel this year. Quarterbacks would have been 594 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: much more interesting if Murray was working out, just because 595 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: he was murrayed. It was such a buzz. What about Watson, 596 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Rubisky in that class? Now it's gonna be 597 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: a compelling class moving forward. All three guys make the 598 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: playoffs in their second year. But at the combine, yeah, 599 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: there was some buzz, but it wasn't this hillacious buzz, 600 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: not about Drubinsky and not about my homes And only 601 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: reason it was Watson because everybody remember it and beat 602 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: in Alabama, uh and having a great game. The other 603 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: thing I'd like to see. I've always been fascinated about 604 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: the vertical. It's amazes me how high the guys can 605 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: get up. When they show it in slow motion, it's 606 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: like they defied gravity. Some of the drills, you know, 607 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the three cone and all that. That's that's okay, Oh gosh. 608 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: The one that's the worst to me is the broad jump. 609 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: The broad jump if it was like they were, if 610 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: it was a triple jump, or they got a running star. 611 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: But just to stand there and jump, that's just I don't. 612 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I know, it's about explosion and all that, but you 613 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: can get that from the vertical. They should play flag football. 614 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: They should play seven on seven. Okay, you can't have 615 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: blocking really, but you could have receivers and dbs and 616 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: just have a little game. Yeah, and God blow out 617 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: their knees and they'll never do it again. Yeah, but 618 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: they can blo out their knees do with the three cone, right, 619 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: but they haven't they have it. But I bench Prez. 620 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: Don't you like watching a bit? That's funny you mentioned 621 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: that because we were situated right next to it, you 622 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: know where we were set up, And at first I thought, 623 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: bench press, this is ridiculous, But after you know, two minutes, 624 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you realize I can't stop watching this. This is kind 625 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: of I got a crick in my neck when I 626 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: was on your set trying to turn around and look 627 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: at the bench press. Yeah, it's funny because you'll see 628 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: somebody just blow people away. You know who wasn't Metcalf 629 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: who had twenty something, Yeah, twenty seven the gout the 630 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: lineman IOA or something like that, he had the most. 631 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Then you see like Hunter renfro as like seven. You know, 632 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really interesting to see the differential 633 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: in the amount that these guys can do. And and 634 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, even the guys who can't do a whole lot, 635 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: some of them are sensational athletes that they're gonna make 636 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: a living in this league. So it's not the be 637 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: all end all, but it's still a measuring stick, and 638 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: it's this sort of it's an arena like setting, and 639 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: I have it on my Twitter feed if you want 640 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: to scroll back, folks, I'll show you the seating area 641 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: and the player announces his name, then he gets down 642 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: there and the strength and conditioning guys are just urging 643 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: them on and it's kind of compelling. They let fans 644 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: in there, all right, so if they move it right quick. 645 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me, you were talking about people where they can 646 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: go and see it on your website, on your Twitter. 647 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think Monday, JJ versis Mario. Remember what. I 648 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: never heard of JJ Watt until the combine. I never 649 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: heard of Mario Williams. Texans didn't go to this pro day, 650 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: and both of them were incredible. And I ran the 651 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: comparison of everything they did and it and Mario was 652 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: six seven, you know, they listed him here at sixty six, 653 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: but the combine he was six seven, two ninety five. 654 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: JJ was a shade under six six and two ninety 655 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: It was amazing, the quickness and the strength and the 656 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: agility that those two had. Next year, I think I'm 657 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: gonna do a Johnson versus Hopkins at the combat. I mean, 658 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: if you put JJ Watt's mind into a lot of 659 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: players bodies, I mean there would be ten times better 660 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: because of defensive players of the year. Yeah, I mean 661 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: Mario Williams freakish athletic talent as though it does. I mean, 662 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: I think Clowney is more of an athletic talent than Mario. 663 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Mario had more size and power, 664 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: though well maybe not more powers. I don't know. He 665 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: is vertical, was like a guard. Everything he did at 666 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: the Combine was amazing. I remember when he left, people 667 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: were talking about him and I'm like, who, y'all don 668 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: him mount some guy from North Carolina State named Mario Williams. 669 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: Never heard of it. Yeah, you know, I was paying 670 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: attention to him, obviously, because he was in all the 671 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: mock drafts as a top five guy, likely going to 672 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: New Orleans whatever. And then that Friday Night happens when 673 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: the Texans signed him, And you know, with the draft 674 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: coming up, you're always wondering what the drama is going 675 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: to be, if there's going to be drama. Remember JJ 676 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: Waltett's drafted. He didn't get booed. I mean he got 677 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 1: booed by a few people, but the story gets blown 678 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: up booed. One of the biggest cheers I remember was 679 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: Whitney merciless because he dropped down and where the Texans 680 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: were at twenty six so they could take him. In 681 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty, he was supposed to not last 682 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: past the top fourteen. Yeah, and I think that this 683 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: year you're hoping for something like that to happen, where 684 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: one of these tackles that you like, or if somebody 685 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: one of the corners, maybe I had Greedy Williams possibly 686 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: doing it. I don't think that's a possibility now based 687 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: on his combined performance. But you're hoping that somebody who's 688 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: supposed to go high drops not for a reason where 689 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: he's busted with something, but teams are looking for other 690 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: things and somehow this player drops into your life. They 691 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: want all those front seven guys to go before the Texas, 692 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: They want multiple quarterbacks to go anything but offensive tackles. 693 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, Charlie Nastily, his last draft 694 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: in Kubiak told me the whole time after the combine 695 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: to the draft. They were seriously interested in Mario and 696 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 1: I never believed him. I said, you're gonna draft Reggie Bush. 697 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: It's all a smoke screen, and I didn't believe him. 698 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: And then we were doing the show in New York 699 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: from the draft, and I remember saying on there, I 700 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be Bush. And then during 701 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: a commercial, Charlie texted me and said, we reached an 702 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: agreement with Mario. Come back from a commercial and I said, 703 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, Rich, The more I think about it, I 704 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: could see the Texan's going after Mario Williams instead of Bush. 705 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: Not told Whine. He goes, well, wow, you sure change. 706 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: There you have it. John mccoin says, they're gonna Oh, 707 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: Texans just announced reached her Mario Williams. See I was right. 708 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: I was right, and Vince young Winter I never bought it. 709 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: And the rest is history. How about that? I mean, 710 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: that's just incredible. Back to Pittsburgh here for a moment, John, 711 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to make of it. The 712 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: NFL morning show Good Morning Football did this? Who would 713 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: play the different characters in a movie about the Steelers. 714 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: Of course, Watt's recent tweet about or I don't know 715 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: if it was a tweeter or a comment on a 716 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: show about it's like watching the Kardashians and getting to 717 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: talk to one of them because his brother TJ is 718 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: on the team. This is a real life NFL soap 719 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: opera in progress in real time. I am blown away. 720 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it in a previous segment, 721 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: but I think Ben Roethlisberger is a pretty interesting character 722 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: in this whole player about to resign him to another contract, 723 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: Tank Stenching, Well, they have to, really, I mean, he's 724 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. He is, and 725 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: the boy Antonio Brown doesn't like him, and he's portraying 726 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger acting like everybody hates him. But I'm certainly not 727 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: seeing you know, people are those offensive linemen. They weren't 728 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: ripping Ben. They were ripping Levion Belle for not showing 729 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: up well Antonio Brown in the game that Pittsburgh had 730 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: with Denver. The recent story came out how Roethlisberger blamed 731 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: the route on a late pick he threw in the 732 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: end zone, and I thought I went back to look 733 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: at the play. I just I was that curious about it. 734 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 1: I went back to look at the play, I felt 735 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: like John Harris and I'm looking at it and I 736 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: don't know how you can blame Antonio Brown for running 737 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: the wrong Maybe Antonio Brown just embellishing the story, but 738 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can. I forget who picked 739 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: it off, but like it was either a linebacker or 740 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman in his own drop and he picked 741 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: it off in the end zone. In Roethlisberger, nobody should 742 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: be able to criticize a teammate publicly. I don't care 743 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: how long you ben, I don't care if you got 744 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: ten Super Bowl rings. You need to put a lid 745 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: on it. Keep it behind the scenes if you want 746 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: to go up to a player at his locker and 747 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: the meeting or something, but calling them out publicly does 748 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: not serve any purpose. Absolutely, John, What do you have 749 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: going out of the Houston Chronicle? Aaron Wilson and I 750 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: have our fifth mock draft up. We're doing a preview, 751 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: a position preview for the free start of free agency. 752 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: I have a thing going Sunday preview in the Texans 753 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: and free agency that I have a thing on Texas 754 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Sports Nation. Five takeaways about the Texans and free agency, 755 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: and I'm really fired up about it, and tomorrow I 756 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: Am headed to Astro spring training as a fan this weekend. 757 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: So wait, you go as a fan, you don't get 758 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: a credential or anything. I'm buy tickets and sit with 759 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, stay with them, they live closed, 760 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: and then I come back Sunday and I'm at the 761 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: Texas Special Olympics of Texas benefit with Bruce Matthews, Mike Munchak, 762 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: form Oilers, Mike Devlin setting in for Bill O'Brien this year, 763 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: and then they have the golf tournament for the Texas 764 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: Special Olympics and I'll be riding around there Monday, and 765 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: then I'm getting serious about free agency. John spring training 766 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: for the Astros in the new location. Do you like 767 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: it better? I do. I never liked Simmi. It was 768 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: like driving down West Timer lights at every corner, nothing 769 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: to fast food places in the place they share right 770 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: now in West Palm Beach where the Nationals is terrific 771 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: and it's a great area as well. It is West 772 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: Palm's now. I would encourage everybody to check out the 773 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: Astros spring training. I'm gonna be there next week, so 774 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: that'll be good. You'll have a lot of fun Yeah, 775 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think that spring training it's such a 776 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: huge deal. I know this, but I really believe the 777 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: combine and this whole NFL free agency frenzy has replaced 778 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: it in the national sports landscape over the last ten fifteen. 779 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to Jupiter next door to watch Astros and 780 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals and you know what's on the way. What in fact, 781 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: if you want to stop by, let you know what 782 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: is the orchids of Asia. Yeah, you just let me know, Chick. 783 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go buy and shoot a picture? Should I 784 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: go buy and shoot a picture? Tweet? A unit's close down. 785 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: You probably aren't the only one who's been like taken 786 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: selfies right in front of that play kuband and good 787 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: stay open. They could have wanted people have wanted to 788 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: come in just to take pictures. Yeah, it's really too bad. 789 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mark. There's John McClain from the 790 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle. Okay, a couple of things tomorrow night. Carl Smith, 791 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He's gonna join me and Johnny as we'll 792 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: talk about his career, which has been a long one 793 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: and still in progress with the Shaun Watson, his next pupil. 794 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: After working most recently with Russell Wilson of the Seahawks, 795 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: and don't forget Saturday night at eleven o'clock ABC thirteen, 796 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: Texans three sixty. Great show that you need to follow, 797 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: and follow us on all the social media stuff and 798 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com. Some really fun and funny and 799 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: informative videos there and stories. Go check them all out 800 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: and we'll be live Monday Tuesday. Wednesday's Free Agency will 801 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: get hopping next week with the we call it the 802 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: legal tampering period, followed by the Wednesday start to Free 803 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: Agency officially. Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.