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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone had a great Christmas. Hopefully everyone's currently having

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Speaker 1: a great Honikah and getting ready for a little thing

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Speaker 1: we call the New Year. Right around the corner. Twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, the world is flying by. That is that's

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Speaker 1: crazy to even say that out loud. That it's like

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Speaker 1: about people in the twenties, in the nineteen twenties. But

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Speaker 1: we're rocking and rolling New Year's right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: I did not watch. I think I saw probably less

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Speaker 1: snaps of the bear Seattle then any primetime game since

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Speaker 1: I've been doing three. I mean, I didn't really watch

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Speaker 1: the game. We were out family friends dinner, then kind

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Speaker 1: of hit the bars or just some of the neighboring

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Speaker 1: And then we got a little phone call. The dog

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Speaker 1: got in a tussle, So we came back a day

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Speaker 1: early because some bites of the year the other you know,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of sums up my last twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: football on Saturday, we got more football on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: we will cap it off as everyone back where I

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Speaker 1: just was was not very excited for. But forty nine

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Speaker 1: which is in theory a great eight Monday night game

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Speaker 1: when they set the schedule, when it turns out to

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Speaker 1: not be a very good one. So we'll talk a

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Speaker 1: little ball, answer some of your questions. We'll go rapid

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Speaker 1: fire again. Hopefully everyone enjoyed their family and had a

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Speaker 1: good time. Whatever the heck you guys did. Question for

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Speaker 1: the mailbag. I'm a Steeler fan and I want to

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Speaker 1: be grateful for never having been in the shoes of

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Speaker 1: teams like the Jets, the Giants, the Raiders, the Jags,

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Speaker 1: the Bears, or Browns fans shoes. If you were a

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question. I I think it's

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Speaker 1: a combination of a lot. I think the leadership standpoint

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Speaker 1: and people push back, what does leader of men mean?

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Speaker 1: It clearly means something right like Dan Campbell to Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: to Sean McVay, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh. Demiko is a

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Speaker 1: great look like you have to have leadership ability, but

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Speaker 1: you also have to have talent. Talent's probably the wrong

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Speaker 1: a talent that you acquire the more and more reps

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Speaker 1: you get. When you are the top of the org chart,

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Speaker 1: adversity is hitting you NonStop, So like, how can you

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Speaker 1: something that you just aren't quite prepared for as a

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Speaker 1: then as a coordinator, it's a different world as the

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Speaker 1: it's not your call, and you're you're usually not that

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Speaker 1: involved with who comes in. Obviously, the more and more

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they ask him questions if for player acquisition,

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Speaker 1: So and then I've always said this, like when a

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Speaker 1: That's on Dan, And honestly, it's probably on more Randall

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Speaker 1: So I don't have a great answer. But the number

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Speaker 1: you get the right guy. Obviously, picking quarterback and picking

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Speaker 1: Huge fan of the Pope, just had to come here

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Speaker 1: It keeps me up at night to be honest, while

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Speaker 1: my team falls to the Pitts. One of the biggest

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Speaker 1: Pretty good in eighteen. I mean, the defense was elite.

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Speaker 1: What do the Bears need to do to get back

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Speaker 1: Where do Bears goes next? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: I also don't think Caleb is the problem, and he is,

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Speaker 1: He was sacks seven times. Jesus, Yeah, I'm with you

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Speaker 1: to sell the team. Thing is it's a fun thing

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Speaker 1: great chance, listen, it's a great fan base, it's an

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Speaker 1: I could throw a guess, hey hire Mike Vrabel, Hey

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Speaker 1: all these games. If I was Polls would be like,

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Speaker 1: I do not want the camera on me when we're losing.

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Speaker 1: What it feels like? I mean, how many games The

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Speaker 1: four wins. I mean, they haven't won a game one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: I mean I know what he looks like. This guy

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Speaker 1: weis one hundred fifty four pounds. He weighs and listen,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garret's like six ' five to eighty. They're just

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Speaker 1: one thing with fighting. There is a reason they do

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Speaker 1: weight classes. It's like when I see I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, Jake Paul comes up, and you go, Jake

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Speaker 1: Paul weighs like two hundred and thirty pounds. Jake Paul

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Speaker 1: is big, like he's not Gregor was fighting Chad Mendez. Connor,

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Speaker 1: Miles has And I'm not diminishing like how great, Like

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Speaker 1: you don't you can't just compare fighters to non fighters,

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Speaker 1: But there is a massive, massive size advantage there and

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Speaker 1: obviously my it's not like my, No, I don't know

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Speaker 1: miles fighting ability. But I'm just saying, if you take

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Speaker 1: me a guy from the NFL with miles physical characteristics

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Speaker 1: six four sixty five two eighty just elite strength, speed,

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Speaker 1: The disadvantage of the small guy would be am I

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Speaker 1: not just think the Steelers can still win a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: close knit because there's nothing else to do. You're spot on.

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Speaker 1: My son is a lacrosse player at Army West Point,

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Speaker 1: It's just because it's a small town doesn't mean there's

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Speaker 1: The media would have you believe he'd run the play

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Speaker 1: on why he ran it there? This was yesterday, Well,

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Speaker 1: the franchise, even if it didn't get very far, Like

431
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Speaker 1: if you throw that out there, that stays with you

432
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: for a while, especially when things are shitty. It's one thing.

433
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, do you know who Peyton Manning in

434
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight asked the Jim Mersey for one percent.

435
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: Everyone would have crushed him in ninety eight. By two

436
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: thousand and five, you're like, yeah, this guy should ask

437
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: for ten, right, So he just puts it added pressure

438
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: on you, and it's like he's like this lightning rod

439
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: individual player, a little like Russell Wilson because of kind

440
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: of their style. Honestly, a style is a little like

441
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson back in the day. He's got a stronger arm.

442
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: Russell I think was more of a natural runner, but

443
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: both of them could be a little herky jerky, and

444
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: it was just a roller coaster ride with Russell right now.

445
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Russell was good, you know, Caleb just to be half

446
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: as good as Russell's bad days in the mid twenty tens.

447
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: He's got a long way to go. But there's a

448
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: lot that comes with that. And I just wonder if

449
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: if the patch job was available, if you were Ben Johnson,

450
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of a just an easier route could be

451
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: wrong created this just to write you, Bud, seems like

452
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: each year. Recently, we have a quarterback who seemed dead

453
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Speaker 1: in the water but has a career resurgence like Gino

454
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Speaker 1: last year in Sam Donald this year. Who is the

455
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: next quarterback that will follow this trend? I would throw

456
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: Baker in there as well. I think Sam Donald, we

457
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: have seen Gino's before, an older guy late in his

458
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: career just go on to be solid. Now, some guy

459
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, rich Gannon is the best example. He was

460
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Speaker 1: a guy that had obviously won an MVP, took a

461
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: team to Super Bowl. Geno's not going to do that,

462
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: but at thirty two, thirty three, thirty four, you get

463
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Speaker 1: your shot. We have seen a lot of guys and happens,

464
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot that are drafted high, that change teams and

465
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: become solid players. And we've also seen a lot of

466
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: them just suck. But I think when you look at

467
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: the standings, like who's really I mean Tua, I mean,

468
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: could would Rogers get credit if next year the Jets

469
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: won nine games, they had a new coach and he

470
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: was their starting quarterback and he threw thirty touchdowns? Will

471
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: levis no chance. I don't know if there really is

472
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Speaker 1: a guy Kyler. Every time I watch Kyler, these last

473
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: couple weeks, he kind of looks like shit, he's just

474
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: he feels like throw nine picks. It feels like he's

475
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: throwing like fifteen. It's a good question. I don't know

476
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: if there's a Sam Darnold Baker right now. And part

477
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: of that is those guys, you know, we're just drafted

478
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: high and bouncing around, like who's drafted high right now?

479
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: Bouncing around? You know it ain't Mac Jones and ain't

480
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: can't he pick It ain't anyone from that draft class.

481
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: They're just those guys just aren't good enough, even Fields,

482
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: a lifelong Bronco fan from Oakland, California. The rivalry with

483
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: all my Raider friends growing up was awesome. First off,

484
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: heard you looking for a synonym for astronomical. One of

485
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: my favorites is one metric fuck ton. I like that,

486
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: as in Jesus Trevor Lawrence makes one metric ton of

487
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: money for a guy who's never thrown thirty touchdowns. Feel

488
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: free to use that one. I like it. Second, you know,

489
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about bo We've seen that

490
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: he can lead an offense in Sean Payton's system, but

491
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: how high do you think his ceiling truly is ever

492
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: since Manning retired, a super Bowl is seemed so far

493
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: out of reach. But do you think we can get

494
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: back there with Bow under center? I think, and I

495
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: get it, like that's all the matters trying to win

496
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: a championship. I think if he can lead you to

497
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: the playoffs these next couple of years, you're in pretty

498
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: good shape. And if by his third year, once you

499
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of free yourself of the Russell Wilson situation that

500
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: you can be aggressive his third and fourth year, then

501
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: you could be a super Bowl contender because your defense

502
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: is good, your head coach is good. Obviously, you know

503
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Sean Payton was always great at getting weapons, finding guys

504
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: all over the draft. I mean they're literally doing it

505
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: right now on the team. You know, this year, even

506
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: if you lose in the first round of the playoffs

507
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: by fifteen points, it wasn't to make the playoffs. What

508
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: an incredible year. I think they'll be viewed as a

509
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: nine to ten eleven playoff level team again next year,

510
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: depending on what happens the offseason. And then I think

511
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: that third and fourth year, like his years for Broke,

512
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: when they can kind of build up the team because

513
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna have way more money to spend. It just

514
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: more flexibility. So one thing you gotta be careful though.

515
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: And it's different because Sean Payton, we just know he's good.

516
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Bobby Slowick has kind of come back to earth. Sometimes

517
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: young players can have down years after a good year,

518
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, to be a really good player, Like that's

519
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: what makes Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes like. They just do

520
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: it every single year. TJ. Watt, you know, Fred Warner

521
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: just go around Lane Johnson, go around all the best players.

522
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: It's like every year they're gonna be good. Every year

523
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna be good. And sometimes with a young player,

524
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: they bounce onto the scene. You're like, oh, good player,

525
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: Like Justin Jefferson bounce.

526
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Speaker 2: On the scene.

527
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: He's awesome. And then you just like, I do it again.

528
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I do it again. I do it again. You're like, yeah,

529
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be an all time great. And some

530
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: guys bounce on the scene and then their second year

531
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: you're like, what's going on here? And sometimes it's coaching,

532
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's maybe they're sneaky injured. I think next year

533
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: is huge for him because there's gonna be tangible pressure.

534
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: There's no denying you got to sneak up on some people.

535
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Early on in the season, no one thought the Broncos

536
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: are gonna be that good. I mean, shit, you're over under.

537
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: It was like five games and now you're gonna win

538
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: probably ten. This is another Bronco question a huge Bronco fan.

539
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: In your opinion, what should be the team's top priority

540
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: this offseason. It seems to me that we have a

541
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: lot of good across the board, but only two or

542
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: three great players. What position groups should we hit the

543
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: hardest in the draft? Well, your offensive line is good,

544
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: and quarterback obviously is a stable guy. He just drafted him.

545
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Your secondary is excellent. Now your pass rusher with Benito

546
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: looks like a guy who's gonna compete for Defensive Player

547
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Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm trying to look at I love

548
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams in college, and obviously he got injured, and

549
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: it's just not quite the same. If you could give

550
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: this team, it's kind of crazy that they are. You

551
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: guys are nine and six. I'm gonna end up my

552
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: guess would be ten and seven, and you're not gonna

553
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: have a running back with probably over six hundred yards.

554
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton, if he could get a star

555
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: running back. I would guess they draft a running back

556
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: this offseason. The other thing is, you know, Sutton's a

557
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: really good player, but your second leading receiver is Gavonte Williams.

558
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: So actually, I'll give Javonte. You know, he's he's productive

559
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: in the passing game, but he averages less than three

560
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: point seven yards of carry, does have four touchdowns, but he

561
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: has forty seven catches. I think you need a little

562
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: more juice in the passing game. Tony Franklin drops the ball.

563
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Mims is kind of sweet when he's in space. Moms

564
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: kind of grown on me. Boomer sooner. I think it's

565
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: more offense because, I mean, are most of your defensive

566
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Speaker 1: guys in her contract. You never have enough pass rusher.

567
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: So to me early, I bet you guys drafted a

568
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: running back high. If you guys are, I would say,

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Speaker 1: if you guys are drafting, let's say you're one and

570
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: done in the playoffs and drafting like nineteen twenty. Now,

571
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be there, but warn the

572
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: tight end, I think you'd be in the mix. The

573
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Penn Sa kid. Remember Sean Payton had what's his name

574
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: from Miami Jimmy Graham, tall tight end, pretty quarterback, friendly player.

575
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Now that the Pats have the second pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: who do you think it's possible they would purposely drop

577
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: the next two games to attempt to secure the number

578
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: one pick. I don't even think they have to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: next week eighteen, they're playing the Bills. Who do the

580
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Patriots play? This week? The Patriots play the Chargers. I mean,

581
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: you're just gonna lose. I think if you get the

582
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Speaker 1: number two overall pick, I think I would just draft

583
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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, assuming like the quarterback gos one. If the

584
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Giants were to take you door Sanders, which we can

585
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: talk all we want about the Giants being a bad franchise.

586
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: You think the Sander family is gonna turn down New York.

587
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: City, I think they would go.

588
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: If I'm the Patriots, I don't even think I would

589
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: get cute. I think I just draft Travis Hunter, and

590
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: I get Travis Hunter to go with the Oregon corner Gonzales.

591
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: He can play wide receiver. I just I get so

592
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: much excitement with my fan base. I think it's I'm

593
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: not overthinking that one. Now, who knows, like, who's our coach,

594
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: who's your GM. They even have a GM. Right now,

595
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: here's a good one. Are you and Colin that fucking

596
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: stupid question? Mark? Good lord? They just give anyone a

597
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: microphone to talk about sports. Actually, you can just go

598
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: to Best buying parts to them. They don't give you it.

599
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta buy them. They're not There's not like

600
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: a microphone score a store where they just hand them

601
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: out for free, So you have to purchase credit card,

602
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: debit card, cash check. Hey John love thepot. A few

603
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: questions as a Charger fan. When Jim Harbaught was hired,

604
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: I read heard that it was going to be three

605
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: or four, three to five year run with him because

606
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: his act wears people out. What exactly does that mean?

607
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Is it the association with players or the front office?

608
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Does he have full control of the franchise like Belichick?

609
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: What is the extent of his quote unquote power. Also,

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: given the immediate impact he's had, do you see him

611
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: being the coach for the Chargers the next ten plus years?

612
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: That narrative is based on the Niners and the Niners,

613
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: but it had some players the front office they wanted

614
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: to kill each other, and him and the owner were

615
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: It was not pretty at the end. But he just

616
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: coached at Michigan from I mean the Niners essentially fired

617
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: him in twenty fourteen, and he coached there up until

618
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty four so now it's college. Obviously,

619
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: he coached for a long time before the transfer portal.

620
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: But you have guys three or four years and they're gone.

621
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: He does not. I mean, he's very obviously he has

622
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of juice when you're picking a player, but

623
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: they have a GM which is his guy or brother's

624
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: guy from the ravens Ortiz Joe Ortiz, bald guy. I

625
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: also think Jim has part of the thing with Jim

626
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: with forty nine ers and he was like, this is Stanford.

627
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I think he had one of the biggest chips on

628
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: his shoulder in the history of sports player or coach,

629
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: and he was a former player. He was this intimidating presence.

630
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: He's a weird cat, so I think he can really

631
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: just and he's just a football I mean, he's just

632
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: a complete addict. So it's when you're kind of weird

633
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: and you're like that, I think it can be hard

634
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: on some guys, but I think we got to put

635
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: that thing to bed. I think we put that thing

636
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: to bed based on Michigan and just based on the

637
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: way he carries himself. Now he's a I think he's

638
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: just dramatically lighter person. I think he's a lot lighter.

639
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: He was really intense with the Niners, and I was

640
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: going to a lot of those games as practices. He

641
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: not the coaches are intense, but I just mean he's

642
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Speaker 1: He feels like a different human being to me. So

643
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Speaker 1: I think that had a lot of substance behind it.

644
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: At Stanford and the Niners piss a lot of people off.

645
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: Players included with a lot of players, you know, some

646
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: of them liked them, some of them didn't. And I

647
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: think it's kind of mellowed out over time. And look

648
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: at now his staff. You know, Navarro, Bowman's on the staff,

649
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: Goldsen the former Safeties on the staff. I think a

650
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: lot's changed. I love the bod. Listen to every episode.

651
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Speaker 1: I decided to put together a middle coof dictionary of

652
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: phrases you say often and always make me laugh. Mollywop

653
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: equals smash, destroy, annihilate, curb stomp, see Mollywop, money talk,

654
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: shit walks, money speaks louder than words. One two, three,

655
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: can coon they've checked out and given up Sisters of

656
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: the poor at School of the Blind. A week's schedule

657
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: of opponents, couldn't hit water sitting in a boat, highly

658
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: inaccurate passer by a country mile wide margin every day

659
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: of the week and twice on Sundays. Easy decision that

660
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: you make without hesitation, circle, jerk or slurp.

661
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: I think I appreciate that, Okay.

662
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Speaker 1: A couple more questions, a few of my buddies having

663
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: a couple of beers, and the buzzed up debate became,

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Speaker 1: if all three of us were on the field for

665
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: every play, three extra players. I think we got this

666
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: on something similar like this before. What effect would it

667
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Speaker 1: have on a team over the course of a year,

668
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: thought you'd be, the guy asked, Assuming we know the

669
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Speaker 1: plays and didn't get holding, off side or other pen empties,

670
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: could three thirty five year old five ten to six

671
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: foot guys add a win to a team's record? Side note,

672
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: don't have to read aloud. We decided at best we'd

673
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: get in the way to help prevent block field goals

674
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Speaker 1: on the edge or in a hail Mary scenario. I

675
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: would say this because we've got a similar question before.

676
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: You guys would get hurt. I guess you guys would

677
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: all be injured. So if you're on defense, yeah, the

678
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: hail Mary thing even that, I don't know if you're

679
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: bringing much of the table there field goal, Like what

680
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: would you really be doing on the field goal, because

681
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: there's guys on the edges coming off the edge, and

682
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: you don't have the strength or the size up the middle.

683
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't even want you in any of those

684
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: positions on the edge or up the middle. And if

685
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: I just put three extra guys on defense, I just

686
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: like would if you know, Derrick Henry broke a run,

687
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: it was running right at you, he could injure you.

688
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: What if Trent Williams came loose and was blocking you

689
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: and threw you into the water cooler, because he would

690
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: lift you up and toss you. You wouldn't be you know,

691
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: unlike a If I'm like a dB for the Lions

692
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: or whatever in the sweet offensive tackles coming after me,

693
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm still athletic enough where I can avoid them. I

694
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: can dip under him. Hell, I could even just run

695
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: away from him. You're not able to do any of that.

696
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: So these, if any of these offensive linemen get their

697
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: hands on you. You're just in major, major trouble. And like,

698
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I think we underestimate these guys when they get thrown

699
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: to the ground. The muscle aren't body armor they have

700
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Speaker 1: on them. I'm not talking to the pads. I'm talking

701
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Speaker 1: about their own muscle. So I don't think you would

702
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: have a long shelf life. I think I'd be shocked

703
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: if you just started week one, assuming we're talking to NFL,

704
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: not college, I think you'd all be on injured reserve

705
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: by I don't know, early October. The other thing is

706
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: do you practice, Like, do you lift with the team,

707
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: so are you getting sore? You know, these guys' bodies.

708
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't think you would last long. Do

709
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Speaker 1: you think the Seahawks have an ownership problem or is

710
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: it just a coaching problem? They have lost all the

711
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Speaker 1: primetime games this year in games that are must win

712
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: for playoff selection, Well, they just won one. This question

713
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Speaker 1: was asked before Thursday night game. I don't think they

714
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Speaker 1: have any problem. I just think they're not quite as

715
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Speaker 1: good as a lot of these other teams. And it's

716
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Speaker 1: still pretty solid. I mean, you're you're looking at a

717
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Speaker 1: team that is going to have a winning record for

718
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: the third straight year. I think they went nine to eight,

719
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: nine and eight last couple of years, and they're about

720
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Speaker 1: to nine and seven. They get a pretty big advantage playing.

721
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Speaker 1: I guess the rain Ms play Saturday Night. In regards

722
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Speaker 1: to quarterback contracts like Watson and Cousins Russell last year,

723
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: why don't we see teams offer to take on the

724
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: contract for a draft pick compensation similar to Oswiler. Example,

725
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Speaker 1: the Patriots have one hundred and thirty two million in

726
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: cap space in twenty twenty five, the brown send Watson

727
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: and a second and fourth round pick to the Patriots

728
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: to take on that contract. Well, I don't think so. Essentially,

729
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: you're buying the contract. Why would the Patriots, you know,

730
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: to take on a hideous contract Let's say Russell last

731
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: year and obviously the Shaun's way worse. I think you

732
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: have to include multiple ones, and if you're the Browns,

733
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: you need those ones to try to get the hell

734
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Speaker 1: out of the situation because you're not gonna have any

735
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: cap space. And even or I mean, you know, trading it,

736
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: it accelerates the dead cap. So even if the cap

737
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: space changed a little bit, all the guaranteed money accelerates

738
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Speaker 1: in it. It makes it a problem, I think legally,

739
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: obviously it's been it's it happened with the Austweiler trade.

740
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be able to essentially buy picks.

741
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: You know, in the NBA, you could just buy a

742
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: second round pick, which I'd have no problem with. Honestly,

743
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Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear like, not Goodell, but maybe

744
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: some owners or even gms why they think the logic

745
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: behind just not allowing, Hey, we don't want our fourth

746
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: round pick, We'll give you a million bucks, right, you

747
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: want my second round pick, give me ten million dollars.

748
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: I guess the NFL probably wouldn't want These guys don't

749
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: need the money, and I don't know why anyone would

750
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Speaker 1: sell a relatively high pick. I'll do it one more.

751
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate your football takes, however, you love the crap

752
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: on Ryan Day feels like you should give him a

753
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of props Tennessee for what he did at Tennessee.

754
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: I did I did that wasn't ask kicking. And let's

755
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: face it, he beats the crap out of Tennessee and

756
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: then he beats Oregon. He's in pretty good shape. If

757
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State is to win the national championship, which is

758
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: obviously right in front of him. It'd be hard to

759
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: say anything negati about Ryan Day. I mean, you beat

760
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee at home, you beat Oregon, a team that has

761
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: not lost and already beat you this season more than

762
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: likely than you play Texas, and then you probably play

763
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: like Notre Dame, Penn State or Georgia. It would be

764
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Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be unprecedent because we've never seen a

765
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Speaker 1: team play in a four extra games in the playoffs.

766
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the max we've seen his two. So you

767
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: get two extra games and they beat good opponents. I

768
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Speaker 1: don't know. I feel bad for Oregon that they get

769
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: this draw, but I almost feel in a weird way.

770
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, when you're in a bye week, people

771
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: forget about you if your opponent's coming in off a

772
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Speaker 1: big win and you get to fly under the radar.

773
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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think Oregon's pretty good, and obviously Ohio State is two,

775
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean clearly, but they do have a flaw. I

776
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: mean they're missing offensive lineman. They can't run the ball.

777
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: If Will Howard's gonna throw it on you with those

778
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: sweet wide receivers, you're gonna put him in one on

779
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: one coverage like good luck. There'd be a lot of

780
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: NFL corners that couldn't cover that kid one on one.

781
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: I would imagine Oregon, who is run by Dan Lanning,

782
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: who learned from Kirby Smart, is going to have a

783
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: pretty good game plan. And I think a lot of

784
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: people you watch the closer this game gets, are going

785
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: to pick Ohio State, And this is you know, I

786
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: picked Tennessee. I was hating on Ohio State. I'm not hating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, listen, they are as talented as any

788
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: team in the country. But I think everyone's gonna pick

789
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State based on that last performance and based on

790
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: people just organ and play, even though I saw him

791
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: the week before, or we could have two weeks before

792
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: against Penn State running wild and their quarterback looked like

793
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Tua the Alabama version, big game because one of those coaches,

794
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: it'd be a big l for.

795
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Speaker 2: Dan Lanning too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a guy he hasn't won

797
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: that many big games either. I mean, these are two

798
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: of the biggest ones of his short career. Ohio State

799
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: in the regular season and Penn State in the in

800
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: the championship, game he beats Ohio State again, people forget

801
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: about those losses to Washington to bar really quick. But

802
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: I do think I like Oregon in that game because

803
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I just think people are going to overreact to what

804
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: we witnessed a team that had just gotten their ass

805
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: kicked by and I saw Saban say this, He's like,

806
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: people at Ohio State are so obsessed with Michigan. So

807
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: I think he would struggle with that because he tried

808
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: to like every game mattered, the process of it all mattered.

809
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: Obviously Auburn is a huge game, but those LSU Sole's

810
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: all miss every team they're played. He wasn't a guy

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Speaker 1: like I don't think he would have coached at Ohio

812
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: State what he became because he would have struggled with

813
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: everyone putting all the chips in the middle table on Michigan.

814
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: And he even said, like their fans are obsessed with Michigan. Well, yeah,

815
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal. Duke in North Carolina

816
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: obsessed with each other? Right, I say, UCLA USC but

817
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: it's just not true. Yankees, Red Sox forever, right, Raven

818
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Steelers forever. It's a really big deal to the fan base.

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00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: And you saw it with Michigan this year there they

820
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: had an awful season, I mean a terrible year, and

821
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Speaker 1: once they won that game, it doesn't feel that terrible.

822
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: It actually felt like they made progress. Now, part of

823
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: it is that that game's at the end, because if

824
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: they had the same season, and obviously the game is

825
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: always at the end, but let's just say it was

826
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: Week one and they had beat Ohio State and they

827
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: had the crappy season, it would be much harder to stomach.

828
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Speaker 1: But I like Oregon, have a great Saturday. I will

829
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Speaker 1: talk to you guys Sunday because we've got a bunch

830
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: of NFL games on so we will talk soon.

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Speaker 2: The volume