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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it's chilly out there, but things are moving,

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Speaker 2: things are grooving into.

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Speaker 3: The National Football League.

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Speaker 2: We got three games in this late window, including a

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Speaker 2: rivalry that is I was gonna say almost unmatched, but

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Speaker 2: it's one of the most storied rivalries in all of sports,

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Speaker 2: Packers and Bears.

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Speaker 3: And fittingly enough, as you heard Monty say.

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Speaker 2: Zero zero between the Bears and Packers as they play

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Speaker 2: in Lambeau. Welcome in. It is Week fourteen in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He is the all pro hit carry out at Carried

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Speaker 2: twenty five Roads. You could find me at dan Byer

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Speaker 2: on Fox. Let's look at this late window right now,

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Speaker 2: and it is scoreless between the Bears and Packers in Lambeau.

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Speaker 4: We know that.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay's defense is good. Caleb Williams a lot on

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Speaker 2: his shoulders. The Bears actually won a Week eighteen game

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Speaker 2: against Green Bay last year, which ended up changing some

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Speaker 2: of the seating in the NFC. Green Bay rested some

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Speaker 2: guys in that game, but Caleb Williams in a bit

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Speaker 2: of famili your territory, there seem to be more Bears

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Speaker 2: fans there now facing a big third and seven at

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this has been a really storied game as far

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Speaker 5: But right now Chicago is sniffing, sniffing, trying to win

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Speaker 5: at division and coming out here in competing right now

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Speaker 5: early in the game, first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Still, but I'm excited to see this one.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love a bad interception in the first quarter, I believe,

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Speaker 2: on Green Bay's first possession, but they were able to

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Speaker 2: hold the fort. Caleb Williams right now is having a

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Speaker 2: bit of a tough day, one for seven for just

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Speaker 2: two yards, So that's an understatement. However, if you're the Bears,

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Speaker 2: you kind of weather the storm of green Bay in

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Speaker 2: game and you never know what's going to happen at

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Speaker 2: the end. Not necessarily a bad start for the Bears,

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Speaker 2: who end up putting it back to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Now we shift our focus to what's happening in the

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Speaker 2: NFC Wests, maybe out of it. We found out this

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Speaker 2: week there is no Kyler Murray for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the season, so it is Jacoby Brissette's job. But we

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Speaker 2: got a ten to seven ball game with the Rams

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Speaker 2: on top of the Cardinals starting the second quarter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously the Rams need to win this game.

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Speaker 5: The Rams are favorite to win this game. But you

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Speaker 5: know how I go with me talked about it. These

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Speaker 5: division games are tricky. They know each other well and

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Speaker 5: historically the Cardinals play the Rams tough anyway, so it's

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Speaker 5: going to be It's going to be a hard, fallt game.

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Speaker 5: I think the Rams pull away at the end, but

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Speaker 2: The Rams have quite a bit of a gauntlet, so

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Speaker 2: much is made of their matchup with Seattle earlier this season.

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Speaker 2: They've got the Seahawks in Week fifteen, but Sandwich. In

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Speaker 2: between this one and that contest, Detroit comes to town. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so Detroit when the Lions. We excuse me, Detroit and

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Speaker 2: the Rams will be playing them next week, and then

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Speaker 2: in week sixteen. It's the Thursday night a fair so

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Speaker 2: the Rams are going to have a condensed schedule with

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Speaker 2: that Thursday night came But these are all big games.

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Speaker 2: The Lions obviously have something to play for it right now,

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Speaker 3: And it is interesting because.

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Speaker 2: They become so valuable when you look at the forty

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Speaker 3: Nine and four gets you the last spot in.

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Speaker 2: Right now, and again, this is gonna sort off. Packers

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Speaker 2: But it is I mean, there's a lot to play for.

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Speaker 2: but this is one if you're the Rams that I

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Speaker 2: know Arizona is a nice feel good story, but you

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Speaker 2: can't lose this one with what's ahead for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't lose this.

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Speaker 5: And they already had a bad loss last week and

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Speaker 5: so for them, they need to bounce back. They said

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Speaker 5: definitely have focus going into this game. I know they

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Speaker 3: And you talked about it.

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Speaker 5: You lose in that green basic cargo game, you lose

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Speaker 5: dancing one of whoever takes control. We're talking about a

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Speaker 5: and now the way the playoff picture is shaping up

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Speaker 2: This is the frustrating thing, and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the conversation that pops up again, especially with the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: losing today to the Saints. They and the Panthers now

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Speaker 2: all have better records than what a division winner would

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Speaker 2: have in the NFC. You hate that, Dan, I can't

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Speaker 2: stand it. I just I don't like the incentive of

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Speaker 2: least winning that division is enough to play for. I

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Speaker 2: just think that the other teams are they're so penalized

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Speaker 2: just right now, they are not playing good football. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Baker Mayfield isn't one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But the Saints went in in a sloppy game. The

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers went forward on fourth down about five or six times,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't even be sniffing a playoff spot at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yet they not only get the playoff spot, but they

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Speaker 2: get the home field advantage. It just, to me is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the home field advantage thing. I agree with you

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Speaker 5: on that for that reason alone. And again, yes, I

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Speaker 5: understand the thinking behind it, but yeah, when you have

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Speaker 5: it's just it just doesn't really make any sense. But

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Speaker 5: you talk about these teams that are sniffing the playoffs

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Speaker 5: and trying to win divisions, and right now, this is

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Speaker 5: the most exciting time for the NFL, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: every game really matters, and they all matter, but when

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Speaker 2: And it's a big game for the Broncos. They've got

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Speaker 2: a match up against the Raiders now Denver beat the

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Speaker 2: And then we remember what happened in Week one where

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Speaker 2: crazy to think the Raiders, one of the worst teams

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Speaker 3: And that's that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: But that's why this Denver Raiders game has some value

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Speaker 2: because if Denver wins, Denver will then jump New England

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no's and we talk about it a lot. A

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Speaker 5: and so having these percentage points come into play, well, definitely, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissaida said Michael Wilson for a big play to

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Speaker 2: get him near midfield, and Cardinals offense has made a

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride area. But really, right now, if you're the

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Speaker 2: But a third and ten right now for Arizona's Jacoby

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Speaker 2: Brissett's eleven for fourteen so far, well, yeah.

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Speaker 5: They won't turn it over here, Dan, I mean, Kylin

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Speaker 5: Murray's not a quarterback. Oh shot to fire. I'm sorry, sorry, Colin, Sorry,

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Speaker 5: I didn't even No, No, they've got You're right, Dan,

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Speaker 5: they gotta be some fart with the ball here as

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Speaker 5: as a COBE prosess those interceptions. I'm joking, he only

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Speaker 5: got sacked, But like you said, protecting three points.

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Speaker 2: Here, Dan, and they're gonna have to settle for the

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Speaker 2: attempts looking for Trey McBride, as I like to say

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Speaker 2: it in my German accent, unable to get the football

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Speaker 2: to him. So the Cardinals are going to have to

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Speaker 2: settle the Cardinals, man, your former team. They are a

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Speaker 2: thorn in the side of many and the Rams dealing

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Speaker 3: The field goal is good.

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Speaker 2: So it's tied up at ten apiece between the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: We are seeing this.

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Speaker 2: More and more and more, and when opposing fans find

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Speaker 1: Bears and Packers, here's a.

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Speaker 3: Down frame by Packers.

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Speaker 1: Crush you had to Watson took it away.

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Speaker 2: It is end zone radio. He has carrier roads. I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer ninety seven point three. The game wrn W

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Speaker 2: Focus amidst rain, sleet, snow, everything that you could imagine win.

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Speaker 2: us from Buffalo. Joe, welcome in Hope, you're warm. At

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Speaker 3: We hope you have a clean trip back home.

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Speaker 2: I know the weather can be sketchy, but safe travels, Joe,

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Speaker 2: about a quarter of the race to go, and then

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Speaker 2: down the stretch the game and here comes the bills

440
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 2: of the late kick and the kick I mean the energy,

441
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 2: not an actual kick in the game, but the turnover

442
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: by Joe Burrow that they were able to take to

443
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 2: the house as well. This is how Buffalo is going

444
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 2: to win games, and they're probably not going to get

445
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: a home game, So Loflo's going to have to play

446
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: in these shootouts on the road against these teams, and

447
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's going to ultimately have to take over three

448
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 2: touchdown passes today had the big touchdown run, as you

449
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: heard Joe Davis say, his career long in a touchdown, Yeah,

450
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Speaker 2: forty yards.

451
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Speaker 3: But this is the only way.

452
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Speaker 2: That Buffalo has any chance to hold out hopes of

453
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl because their defense right now just is

454
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Speaker 2: not up to the part.

455
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Speaker 5: And this team, there's no way this team is making

456
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Speaker 5: a run. And I mean, obviously there is a way,

457
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 5: because it's we've seen crazier things. But this team does

458
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 5: not impress me at all. And then they impress me,

459
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Speaker 5: you know. I mean like it's one of those things

460
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Speaker 5: where it's like this thing is pedestrian and then all

461
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, yes, the Josh Sun thing happens, or

462
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 5: cook thing happens, or the tip interception happens that changes

463
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Speaker 5: the game. They're almost playing a style of football that

464
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Speaker 5: we saw with Kansas City last year, right in close

465
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Speaker 5: games or in gotta have in situations, they seem to

466
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Speaker 5: make a play and they're kind of falling into that

467
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Speaker 5: territory for me, in my opinion.

468
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Speaker 2: This is the thing with the Buffalo Bills when you

469
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Speaker 2: look at it as a whole. To your point is,

470
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Speaker 2: Buffalo can't do this over a three or four game stretch.

471
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Speaker 2: And if you're gonna win a super Bowl, it's going

472
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Speaker 2: to be four games. But when you start taking it

473
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Speaker 2: piece by piece, right to lose fifty pounds, you got

474
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Speaker 2: to lose the first ten. So you got to win

475
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: the first one, then you got to win the next one,

476
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Speaker 2: then you got to win the next one. The Bills,

477
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Speaker 2: the playoffs started right now, just in the playoff picture

478
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Speaker 2: as it is, and on what the Chargers do tomorrow

479
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: night against the Eagles, but right now, the Bills would

480
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Speaker 2: face the winner of the AFC North, So there you

481
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Speaker 2: would have a Ravens or Steelers team. They can go

482
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Speaker 2: into those places and win. Heck, they just did it

483
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Speaker 2: a week ago in Pittsburgh, so they can do that.

484
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Speaker 2: Then they got a game against the Bills coming up,

485
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Speaker 2: or excuse me, against the Patriots coming up. The Bills do,

486
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Speaker 2: that could be a matchup. If New England gets the

487
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Speaker 2: number one overall seed and you play that game, I

488
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: don't think it would be a sure thing that New

489
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Speaker 2: England would win. So you're looking at it and saying, well,

490
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Speaker 2: if Josh Allen and James Cook and crew are firing

491
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Speaker 2: on all cylinders, they are going to be tough to beat.

492
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Speaker 2: It's the Kansas City Chiefs thing, right. Whenever Patrick Mahomes

493
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Speaker 2: is in a game, in a one game situation, you

494
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Speaker 2: think that he's going to win, I think we're going

495
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Speaker 2: to look at the Bills like that. But I agree

496
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Speaker 2: with you just overall, it's just not sustainable. So in

497
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Speaker 2: one of those games where we think they're going to

498
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Speaker 2: do it, they're not going to do it, right, Like,

499
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Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen. And so it happened with

500
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Speaker 2: Atlanta right in their contest. I mean, there's a game

501
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Speaker 2: against Carolina where I thought they weren't going to do

502
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Speaker 2: it and they just completely put it on the Panthers.

503
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Speaker 2: But to beat the Bengals today thirty nine to thirty

504
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Speaker 2: four in a game that you had to come back,

505
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Speaker 2: and I know, conditions were crazy. I thought conditions actually

506
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Speaker 2: would have favored the Bills today than they did Buffalo

507
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Speaker 2: than they did Cincinnati.

508
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Speaker 3: And it really wasn't the case. It's crazy, you said it.

509
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Speaker 5: They scored seventy three points in that weather today, which

510
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Speaker 5: is an it's an indictment on both defenses. You obviously

511
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Speaker 5: in those in those snowy, in those wet conditions. Yes, no,

512
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Speaker 5: I mean the offense has a little bit of a

513
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Speaker 5: little bit of an advantage because they know where they're going.

514
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Speaker 5: But speed's not an issue. Like if you're playing sound football,

515
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Speaker 5: sound defense, you're not going to give up thirty nine

516
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Speaker 5: points in that condition. And neither one of these teams

517
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Speaker 5: have a defense that puts fear in anybody's heart.

518
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Speaker 2: Right now, he's carry roads. I'm dan Byer for a

519
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: look around the scores of the NFL in week fourteen

520
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: and so much more.

521
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Speaker 3: She shut it to the big Apple.

522
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Speaker 2: Dreams. Yeah, we'll just hang out with friends for a

523
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Speaker 2: few days this year.

524
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Speaker 11: And just be cold.

525
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Speaker 3: You're going to be cold.

526
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Speaker 12: I'm gonna be real cold, and it's gonna be so

527
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Speaker 12: nice here, Like why I think the weather's gonna be

528
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Speaker 12: like high seventies here.

529
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Speaker 11: It is and over there it's just gonna be cold

530
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Speaker 11: and sound like.

531
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Speaker 2: Get you're gonna go check out the Rockefeller Tree. You're

532
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Speaker 2: gonna do that.

533
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Speaker 12: Maybe maybe I've done done that, been there, done that.

534
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Speaker 12: I don't know.

535
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Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna just have some Definitely

536
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Speaker 11: watch a.

537
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Speaker 3: Show, watch a show. Fat earlier if the Packers took

538
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Speaker 3: over said.

539
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Speaker 11: They didn't wrong, I'm not saying we won't, but it's not.

540
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Speaker 12: We're kind of just being where we're kind of just

541
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Speaker 12: go yeah a little bit, but we're definitely gonna watch

542
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Speaker 12: a show.

543
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Speaker 11: One hundred percent. We'll watch a show.

544
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Speaker 12: Three games going right now on in the NFL, and

545
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Speaker 12: the final two minutes of the first half at Lambo

546
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Speaker 12: where the Packers lead the Bear seven zero, but Chicago

547
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Speaker 12: does have the ball, they're in the red zone and

548
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 12: they're gonna kick a field goal, so Green Bay likely

549
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Speaker 12: going to go in to have time up seven three.

550
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Speaker 12: There's a minute and fourteen to go, so we'll see

551
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Speaker 12: what happens there. The Rams with two rushing touchdowns. First

552
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Speaker 12: it was Blake Carum, then kiraen Williams. They lead the

553
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Speaker 12: Cardinals seventeen to ten, with also about a minute to

554
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Speaker 12: go in Arizona before halftime. We are in halftime in

555
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Speaker 12: Las Vegas where the Broncos lead the Raiders fourteen to seven.

556
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Speaker 12: What happened earlier today. Well, the Seahawks improved to ten

557
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Speaker 12: and three. They outscored the Falcons thirty seven to nine.

558
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Speaker 12: Seahawks offense came alive in the second half. The Bills

559
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Speaker 12: are now nine and four. They survived thirty nine to

560
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Speaker 12: thirty four against the Bengals. At one point, the Bills

561
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Speaker 12: had three touchdowns in less than five minutes of play clock.

562
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Speaker 11: That happened in the fourth quarter. Joe Burrow did have

563
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Speaker 11: a pick six in this one.

564
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Speaker 12: As you guys were talking about the Jags, the Jaguars

565
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 12: crews passed the Colts thirty six to nineteen. Jacksonville is

566
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Speaker 12: at the top of the AFC South right now and

567
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Speaker 12: Daniel Jones who was ruled out with an achilles injury

568
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Speaker 12: on his right leg after suffering a non contact injury.

569
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Speaker 12: Things are not looking good, but an MRI is going

570
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Speaker 12: to determine the extent of the injury.

571
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Speaker 11: It's just not looking good.

572
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Speaker 12: Steelers hung on twenty seven to twenty two against the Ravens.

573
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Speaker 12: They have sole possession of the asas North the Saints.

574
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Speaker 12: They had the upset over the Buccaneers twenty four to

575
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Speaker 12: twenty the final score there. The Dolphins roll past the

576
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Speaker 12: Jets thirty four to ten. New York did lose their

577
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Speaker 12: quarterback Tyrod Turrod Taylor, However, he goes by in the

578
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Speaker 12: first half, so Brady Cook had to come in to

579
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Speaker 12: be at quarterback. Four New York Vikings crushed the Commanders

580
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Speaker 12: thirty one zero. Jaden Daniels also exited this game with

581
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Speaker 12: a left elbow injury, but he was held out of precaution,

582
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Speaker 12: is what they said after the game.

583
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Speaker 11: But tight end Zach Ertz took a.

584
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Speaker 12: Really hard hit and was carted off the field with

585
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Speaker 12: a leg injury. That one doesn't look good. Yes, no,

586
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 12: it was no bueno. Titans defeated the Browns thirty one

587
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Speaker 12: to twenty nine. Shador Sanders through for three hundred and

588
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 12: sixty four yards three touchdowns. He had an interception. He

589
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 12: also had three carries for twenty nine yards and a touchdown,

590
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 12: while Cam Wod threw fo one hundred and seventeen yards,

591
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 12: two touchdowns and one interception. The Commanders, the Jets, the Falcons,

592
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 12: and the Browns have all been eliminated from playoff contention

593
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Speaker 12: when it comes to college football. I'm sure you've already

594
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Speaker 12: heard about the college football playoff that Alabama got in

595
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 12: Notre Dame and by you were not put in. Notre

596
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 12: Dame also announced that they have withdrawn their name from

597
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 12: consideration for a bowl game following the twenty twenty five season.

598
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 12: Iowa State and Kansas State also notified the Big Twelve.

599
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 11: Conference that they are not going to be participating in

600
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Speaker 11: a bowl game.

601
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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, I know this may be unsettling

602
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: for some And Kerry and I were just discussing earlier

603
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: where I get why fans would sell their tickets that

604
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: their people are willing to pay four or five times, Yeah,

605
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: the worth of them.

606
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Speaker 3: I get why teams aren't playing in a bowl game

607
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: one thousand thousand percent, Like it's not what it once was.

608
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: If you're Kansas State and you're Iowa State and you

609
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: have new coaches coming in, and it's just it's not

610
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: going to work out. The losses that some of these

611
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: athletic departments would take would take hits. Now Iowa State

612
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: and Kansas State getting fined by the Big Twelve because

613
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: that would have been revenue for the conference. But if

614
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Speaker 2: your Notre Dame, what motivation is there to play in

615
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: any contest after you were on the outside looking.

616
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 5: The playoffs zero, nothing but injury. Let's also get hurt. Yeah, injury,

617
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 5: right exactly. And you know, like the old adage of

618
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Speaker 5: playing bowl games was you got to, you know, get

619
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Speaker 5: the younger guys ready, the guys that didn't play a lot.

620
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Speaker 5: You can throw some of them in there to get

621
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Speaker 5: some snaps, to get some looks at them. But fourteen,

622
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Speaker 5: like Notre Dame that I think deserves to be in

623
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Speaker 5: that hunt for national championship, to play in the Pop

624
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Speaker 5: Tarp Bowl against BYU wouldn't be that exciting.

625
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I have no problem with Notre Dame not

626
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: being in the brackets, Yeah, for sure.

627
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: And they it would have.

628
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Speaker 2: First of all, it's not good TV when you already

629
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Speaker 2: know what the bracket is, so it's great to have

630
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: some drama. Like even when we have the selection show

631
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Speaker 2: for the basketball tournament in March, there's the teams that

632
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: are on the bubble. You're like, well, look they were

633
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: nineteen and sixteen. You know, they lost four straight in

634
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: conference play football. It's more difficult to do that. But like, ultimately,

635
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Speaker 2: the reason that I think that Notre Dame got in

636
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: is the reason why Notre Dame is held to such

637
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 2: a different standard. They want to be an independent. They

638
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: want their own freedom in scheduling. And honestly, they're two

639
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: great wins. And I understand it's a two pointed version

640
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: against Texas A and M, that's the difference, but you

641
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: didn't win that game. They got the two point conversion.

642
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: But your two greatest wins are against the USC and

643
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Speaker 2: PIT and theother Dame is not going to win it either.

644
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Speaker 5: And when you think about it like that way, like

645
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: obviously you want to have a chance to compete at

646
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: the highest level and from the school and their complaint

647
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: one hundred percent warranted, I get it, but they're not

648
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Speaker 5: going to be any of those top teams.

649
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Speaker 3: So for me, I'm like, I think that they could.

650
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Speaker 3: You think they gave a nice here.

651
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Speaker 2: Yes, I actually think that the way in the style

652
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Speaker 2: that they play, it's just them not being in a

653
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: conference I really think hurts them they could have gotten.

654
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Speaker 2: Look at the advantage of and I know it didn't

655
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Speaker 2: work for BYU, but look at the advantage it did

656
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Speaker 2: for Alabama just to be playing yesterday, being able to

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Speaker 2: play in that conference champion game that they lost, and

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Speaker 2: the committee saying we're not going to hold it against them.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State loses by three to Indiana. They dropped one

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Speaker 2: seed line, they dropped a two in that contest, So

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Speaker 2: playing in that game, Notre Dame doesn't have that game

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Speaker 2: because guess what, they're not in a conference. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: beat Miami, then you know it's it's I understand like

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Speaker 2: Miami and what they went through in the ACC is

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Speaker 2: was not as daunting. But when you have two schools

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Speaker 2: that end up playing each other, and Notre Dame plays

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Speaker 2: other ACC schools, right their schedules are a little bit

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Speaker 2: more similar. And if one beats another and you're to

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Speaker 2: the committee's point, right next to each other in the lines,

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Speaker 2: then you can make that switch.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing you just hit on right there.

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Speaker 5: If they weren't gonna put any other ACC school in,

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Speaker 5: I mean, do one a SEC and didn't get in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's if that was the.

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Speaker 5: Teams that you were playing, because that's Notre Dame had

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Speaker 5: to play a SEC this year. They already thought they

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Speaker 5: ACC was week so that had to be a damning

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Speaker 5: thing for Yeah, they have a scheduling deal with the conference.

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Speaker 5: They played five opponents each year and this year, guess

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Speaker 5: what they the five that they got weren't that great,

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Speaker 5: and look at Texas A and M.

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Speaker 3: Take a look at their.

683
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Speaker 2: SEC schedule and who they got to play and who

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Speaker 2: they didn't get to play, and they didn't get a

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Speaker 2: lot of top teams. Then they end up losing at

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Speaker 2: the end of Texas and so there's there's a reason

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Speaker 2: why teams get in and teams don't get I guess

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Speaker 2: what of Texas A and M doesn't get that two

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Speaker 2: point conversion, there may be on the outside looking in

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame is in because of that win over

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Speaker 2: the Agen for sure. All right, we've got teams in

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Speaker 2: the end zone. The Cardinals Matthew Stafford to Puka Nakua

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Speaker 2: extra point is good twenty four to ten near the

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Speaker 2: end of the first half. And Jordan Love is just

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Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown pass as well for green Bay near

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Speaker 2: the end of the first half. Packers have taken a

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Speaker 2: fourteen to three lead on the Bears at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: So the Bears defense, Yeah, who's that bow Melton with

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Speaker 2: the touchdown reception for Green Bay? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I hate that though.

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Speaker 5: You cannot give up a testdown right before the half

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Speaker 5: with a minute left after you just cut into four

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Speaker 5: seven three that's that's.

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Speaker 2: A big play. So Green Bay's extra point is good

705
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Speaker 2: and the Packers end up it is bow Melton forty

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Speaker 2: five yards out up fourteen to three. Just underway in

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Speaker 2: the second half are the Broncos and the Raiders. He

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Speaker 2: is carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Be sure to check

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Speaker 2: out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton

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00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: of great videos for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows.

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Speaker 2: To search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. And

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Speaker 2: be sure to subscribe to you always have instant access

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Speaker 2: toward Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. I do want

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Speaker 2: to make one more point, and James Madison and Tulane

716
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Speaker 2: end up getting in because they were ranked higher than

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Speaker 2: Duke was as a conference champion. So James Madison and

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Speaker 2: Tulane get in, and as the committee is trying to

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Speaker 2: sort this whole thing out, they have got a first

720
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Speaker 2: round that is so unappealing. Who does the name Madison

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Speaker 2: play Oregon? Yep, They're at Oregon. Tulane is at Ole

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Speaker 2: Miss in a game that we had already seen this year.

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Speaker 2: We have a rematch of Vocal Home in Alabama. How

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Speaker 2: do you think the sooners like that when they beat

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Speaker 2: Alabama again, guests, so you get to play them again, congratulations,

726
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: like Miami and Texas A and m is like the

727
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Speaker 2: really the only like game of the first round where

728
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Speaker 2: there's some uniqueness, Like you know, the SEC rematch with

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Speaker 2: oh You and Alabama is just not intriguing. And so

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Speaker 2: I think that is going to be something that the

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Speaker 2: committee will look at as well, because the NFL is

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Speaker 2: going up against those games on those weekends coming up,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to separate yourself in some of

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Speaker 2: those matchups. And last year everything was new. Ohio State

735
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Speaker 2: was playing Tennessee. You had the Notre Dame Indiana game

736
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Speaker 2: on a Friday night. There was some excitement about that

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Speaker 2: those first round of games. I don't think that we're

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Speaker 2: getting that with these games.

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Speaker 5: We have some excitement with it being the first time,

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Speaker 5: but the results weren't exciting.

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Speaker 3: The games would blowout. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully it's more competitive, but you know, we'll.

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Speaker 2: See, we shall see. He is carry roads. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: I look at fantasy numbers next year on end zone, right.

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Speaker 7: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Rams said Cardinal.

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Speaker 1: Here's another shotgun snack. Stafford wings one middle leaping cash.

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Speaker 4: At the five.

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Speaker 1: Pooka ris of tackle. He carries Will Juhson.

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Speaker 7: He is the end zone, twenty eight yards touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Rams.

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Speaker 13: Stafford finds Pooka going into the halftime locker.

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Speaker 1: Room once again. Here's Dan Beyer and carry Rhoades.

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Speaker 3: Rams Radio Network with that highlight.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty four to ten La over Arizona as

756
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: they play in the desert. They're at the half. Packers

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00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: and Bears at the half as well. Green Bay up

758
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Speaker 2: fourteen to three in that one. Well, the Broncos continue

759
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Speaker 2: to hold a fourteen to seven lead on the Raiders

760
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Speaker 2: early in the third quarter. In interesting Week fourteen with

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Speaker 2: some upsets, the survivor pool that many people will focus

762
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Speaker 2: on had carnage today as the Buccaneers were upset by

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Speaker 2: the Saints. Buccaneers came in about an eight point favorite,

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Speaker 2: give or take half a point here or there, and

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Speaker 2: the Browns actually were another popular pick. They were about

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Speaker 2: a four point favorite over the Titans, and the Titans

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Speaker 2: end up getting a thirty one to twenty nine wins,

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Speaker 2: something that we'll talk about at the top of the

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Speaker 2: hour and what should or Sanders did today, plus the

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Speaker 2: officiating in the Ravens Steelers game is something that's going

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Speaker 2: to need to be talked about. We'll do that after

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Speaker 2: Manzi Blanos gives us some fantasy hits from Week fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy hits.

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Speaker 3: And missus, what's up mons? What you got?

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Speaker 11: I got, I got people, I got people that are

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Speaker 11: on my teams for the hits for once typically I'm

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Speaker 11: telling you on my team for missus.

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Speaker 3: We should rename this segment Manzi's Fantasy It is.

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Speaker 11: It really is. Come on, let's be real. I'm sure

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Speaker 11: you guys want to know how my teams are doing.

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Speaker 12: But in quarterback hits, the top quarterback of the day

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Speaker 12: so far Josh Allen about forty three points today. He

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Speaker 12: threw a two hundred and fifty one one yards three touchdowns.

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Speaker 12: He also had nine carries for seventy eight yards and

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Speaker 12: a touchdown. And your second top quarterback of the day

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Speaker 12: Shadoor Sanders with thirty eight points. He threw for three

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Speaker 12: hundred and sixty four yards three touchdowns. He did have

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Speaker 12: an interception, but he also had three carries for twenty.

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Speaker 11: Nine yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 12: We'll do an honorable mention because only one other quarterback

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Speaker 12: hit the thirty point mark, and that was Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 12: He had thirty one points for two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 12: four yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions, one which was a.

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Speaker 5: Pick, sixduted four interceptions.

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Speaker 12: I think it depends on your league, but in mind, yes, yes,

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Speaker 12: very much South, Yes, absolutely. Running backs Tony Pollard with

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Speaker 12: twenty eight points today. He had twenty five carries, one

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Speaker 12: hundred and sixty one yards and two touchdowns. Also Travis

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Speaker 12: atn he brought he's the second best running back of

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Speaker 12: the day twenty points, twenty carries, seventy four yards and

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Speaker 12: two touchdowns.

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Speaker 11: When it comes to the.

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Speaker 12: Wide receivers, no surprise here, Jackson Smith and Jigba top

804
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Speaker 12: wide receiver of the day twenty eight points, seven catches,

805
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Speaker 12: ninety two yards and two touchdowns. And also not surprising,

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Speaker 12: even though he went out of the game for a

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 12: hot second thought he was gonna be ruled out t Higgins,

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Speaker 12: he came back in the game into which twenty seven points.

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 12: He had six catches for ninety two yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 12: Those are just some of your fantasy hits so far

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Speaker 12: for today.

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Speaker 3: Should be noted.

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Speaker 2: Devon eh Chan was on his way to having a

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Speaker 2: big game and then he left the rib injury, Dolphins

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Speaker 2: said coach Mike McDaniel did say after the game that

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Speaker 2: eight Chan could have returned in an emergency situation, but

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Speaker 2: because the game was so in hand, they didn't need

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Speaker 2: to turn to him.

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Speaker 5: It has been said he could have come back, but

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Speaker 5: we're playing a jet.

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Speaker 3: I sat it, not me got a former jet.

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Speaker 11: I think Miami plays, Sorry Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Did I play Thursday? It's the Buccaneers and Falcons coming

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Speaker 3: up this Thursday.

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Speaker 11: Oh, I thought they had a short week and thought

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Speaker 11: that's what they were holding him for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they play. I'm totally blanking on who they play.

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Speaker 5: It's a Steelers there, it is, Dolphins play Sailors.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Dolphin's going to make it to the playoffs. Dan,

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Speaker 3: what do you think you said? You said them about

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Speaker 3: it last week.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that, like Mike McDaniel wasn't fired, and

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Speaker 2: the players like him, and I think that the work

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Speaker 2: that he's done with Tua, and even if Tua's regressing like,

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Speaker 2: it's still like they were able to to maximize to

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Speaker 2: h to their you know, to the best that they could.

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Speaker 2: But also because of a guy like eight Chan. We

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Speaker 2: know what Kyle Shanahan's offenses are about. So Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 2: under the tutelage of that it's about the running game.

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Speaker 2: And if they have a one two punch with e

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Speaker 2: Chan and Olie Gordon, they could go. The turnaround is

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Speaker 2: going to be a lot quicker when you have something

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Speaker 2: like that in place, get a new gm, new way

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Speaker 2: of thinking. But I don't think that Mike McDaniel is

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Speaker 2: going to be fired at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been you've been on that.

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Speaker 5: You said that they like them, and you had a

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 5: little inkling of you know, can this team keep winning?

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Speaker 3: And what is this four in a row?

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 12: Now?

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00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: The wind streak? Let me just bring it up. There's

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Speaker 2: six and seven now, So the last four games for

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, yes, five out of the last six, last

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00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: four wins against the Bills, Commanders, Saints, and Jets. With

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Speaker 2: that game against the Steelers and then they have the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers and then Patriots.

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Speaker 5: At the won the table then, I mean the Patriots

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Speaker 5: may have that may have the division or first second place.

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Speaker 2: In hand, you know, Yeah, the Buccaneers too, and they're

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Speaker 2: lost to the Saints today touched on this earlier. I

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Speaker 2: don't they didn't have Tristan Wurf's but they also made

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00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: some decisions. They had a fourth and three that it

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00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: looked like they converted and Chris Godwin caught the ball,

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Speaker 2: was hit and then it was Jarred loosen rolled incomplete.

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Speaker 2: But it was at the forty six yard line earlier

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Speaker 2: in the in the fourth quarter, and you could have

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Speaker 2: pinned the Saints back deep instead in the tie game,

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Speaker 2: they ended up going for it. Saints go drive the

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Speaker 2: football down the field, score a touchdown and never relinquished

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Speaker 2: the lead after that. It felt for a little while

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Speaker 2: that maybe the Buccaneers were playing with their food and

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Speaker 2: instead of sticking to the book, like we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: for it in all these fourth down situations, and the

874
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Speaker 2: Saints made some great third down conversions. Tyler Shook has

875
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: been great in the limited point that we've seen him today,

876
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: maybe more so with those legs, but again, big third

877
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: down conversions is the Saints get a big win in

878
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Tampa and the Buccaneers have problems now. Bronco's facing a

879
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: third and three from the Raiders eight yard line and R. J.

880
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: Harvey is able to get the first down, so they'll

881
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: have a go to go situation. Rams on top of

882
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: the Cardinals twenty four to ten. Packers lead the Bears

883
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: at the half fourteen to three. What are we going

884
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: to do with these refs in the NFL? That's next

885
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: on Fox. They're under away of the second half in

886
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Arizona and about to get underway in the second half

887
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: at Lambeau while the Raiders and a Bang dubb Gino

888
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Smith just try to get it going, trailing the Broncos

889
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: by two scores nearing the end of the third quarter.

890
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: Well, come in.

891
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: It is end Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio, hit

892
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: carry out at carry twenty five roads. You can find

893
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: me at dan Byer on Fox. So many big games

894
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: in Week fourteen, maybe none bigger than what we saw

895
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: in Baltimore as the Steelers get a twenty seven to

896
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: twenty two victory over the Ravens. And it's the probably

897
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: two or three plays from this game that we will

898
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: continue to talk about, but the one that stands out

899
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: is the Isaiah Likely touchdown that was wiped off the board.

900
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: In fact, DeAndre Hopkins made a tweet about it and

901
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: then had to take the tweet down. And what a

902
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: catch is in the National Football League, maybe wanting to

903
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: avoid the fine. I don't know if you avoid the

904
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: fine by deleting your tweet. But DeAndre Hopkins was saying

905
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: what a lot of us were saying, and that is

906
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: we still don't know what a catch is in the

907
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: National Football League, specifically a catch in the end zone

908
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: where it looked like Lively got not only two feet

909
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: down but maybe three steps, and the ball was then

910
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: knocked away and ruled in complete after replay. By the way,

911
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: there was a replay call, and the Baltimore Ravens have

912
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: every reason to be frustrated and mad over the loss

913
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: today because it does feel that it was taken from them.

914
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was an egregious call. And again what you

915
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: just said about DeAndre Hopkins, and I think that's the

916
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: sentiment from all of us, right, Like, what is a touchdown?

917
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: I mean, you can tell likely caught the ball and

918
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 5: kept it away from his body because the defender was

919
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 5: going to try to punch it out, yes, and actually

920
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: took two and if it wasn't three steps, it was

921
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: two and like three quarters of a step away. I

922
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: don't know how you even calculate that thing. But the

923
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: fact that he has the ball possession firmly in front

924
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 5: of him, took a couple of steps and not be

925
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 5: called a touchdown after a replay. That's the part that's

926
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: that's crazy because it's the replay they called it a

927
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: touchdown on the field, with everybody's eyes, we can see

928
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: that that was a touchdown, and then you have a

929
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: review come from New York and they overturned That part

930
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: is just it just it's baffling.

931
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: I think to your point about holding the football out

932
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: as a safety precaution is so important here because we

933
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: think of completing the catch of tucking it and running it.

934
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 2: But if that's not the best option where you feel

935
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: someone's going to punch it out of your grasp or

936
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: you're leaving the ball vulnerable as you pull it in

937
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: exactly because it's also difficult when you're making the catch

938
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: that he makes. I don't know how you'd pull it

939
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: in with two hands, right, like the normal thing is

940
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: to do it with one hand. After the catch, and

941
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: in that scenario, he's trying to fight against what ended

942
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: up happening with the Steelers defender, and the Steelers defender

943
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: ultimately was able to jar it loose but it's just

944
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: it's it goes back to the officiating of the NFL

945
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: that we get week in, week out. I mean, we're

946
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: grading Cruise. You knew it when you were playing, you

947
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: know what. I want to say, how many years ago?

948
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: But back then, we'll just leave it at that, and

949
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: you knew what Cruise would call. What you could say,

950
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: this crew is advantageous to this, and that's not what

951
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: should be happening. I understand that there's a lot of

952
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: stuff that's subjective, but something like this, to have the

953
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: crew called a touchdown and then they have replay, say

954
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: hold on a second, Yeah, Like the NFL's got a

955
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: real problem on their hands if replay is overplaying, overruling

956
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: stuff like this.

957
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 5: Yes, and like that's the thing, right Dan, Obviously there's

958
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 5: a human element to it, right where with our everybody

959
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: the own two eyes. If you look at that play,

960
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 5: it's a touchdown. And I think that's been the consensus

961
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: from everybody. I don't think I've seen any tweet that

962
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: said that wasn't a touchdown, even from Steelers fans, you

963
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, I haven't seen that.

964
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: So where's the decision making coming from?

965
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 5: And I think that's the other part of it, right,

966
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: Like we can say these calls are being replayed and

967
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: changed or challenged by you eyes in the booth, but

968
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 5: us as normal observers of the game, who are these people?

969
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: And so I think that part of it as well

970
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: comes into play.

971
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: The information that Terry McCauley gives on the on the

972
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: NBC broadcast, and I believe he's the rule.

973
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: Analyst for Amazon as well.

974
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: But I've heard recently Terry McCauley just basically coming out

975
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: saying like that call is wrong or that implemation of

976
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: the rule is wrong, and if if the replay official

977
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: is going to overturn this, then there's there's no checks

978
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: and balance of this. And it's like the point that

979
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: I make is it's you may have the best officials

980
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: on the field, you may have the great a crew,

981
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: but if Walt Coleman's crew back in New York is

982
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: for some reason thinking of something completely different, it overshadows

983
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: what you knew. There was a call earlier in the

984
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: Raven Steelers game as well where Rogers threw a pass

985
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: that was deflected and it's a jump ball, and replay

986
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: then rules that Rogers had possession of it and was

987
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: down on the ground at the time, like what are

988
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: we doing here? Like in those situations like this, and

989
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: I feel that the touchdown is way that was wiped away,

990
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: way more egregious than the replay call of the Rogers deflection.

991
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: And if you want to say it was down that semantics,

992
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: but you took a touchdown off the board for a

993
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: player making a play. They may say that the Steelers

994
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: player made the play. No Isaiah likely ended up making

995
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: the play, and to wipe it off the board just atrocious.

996
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: And if I'm a Ravens fan, I'd be I'd be

997
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: mad too, it is.

998
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 5: Dan and just even the overarching story of what that

999
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: game was, it was a really good game, physical game,

1000
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 5: very well played, two teams that are legitimately fighting for

1001
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: the playoffs and to win the division. And you take

1002
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: the ball out of their hands so to speak, I

1003
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 5: mean not even so to speak, like they took the

1004
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: ball out of their hands of a touchdown and a

1005
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: game a game, go ahead drive by Lamar and a

1006
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 5: big drive by.

1007
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: Them to get back in the game and take the

1008
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: lead in that moment.

1009
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: And then you take away from the other aspect of

1010
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: that as well, given Aaron Rodgers the ball with two

1011
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 5: minutes left to see if he can go winning game.

1012
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: So like, does all of that encompassing this is bad?

1013
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: Yes, And there was a situation said that the Ravens

1014
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: were faultless in their performance today, because that's that's not true.

1015
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: It to me, it was almost fitting as well that

1016
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: the game ended with Lamar Jackson getting sacked on a

1017
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: hail mary. And it was and it was and it

1018
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: wasn't like the normal hailmary where it's from sixty yards out.

1019
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: It's it was a bit closer, but he was buying

1020
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: time and was tackled from behind. And that also is

1021
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: a problem with what the Ravens is. Lamar just hasn't

1022
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: been the same this year. There's just not that burst

1023
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: to elude that defender and at that point he ends

1024
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: up getting tackled and time just runs out because the

1025
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 2: Ravens don't have any more timeouts. But there was also

1026
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: a scenario, Carrie, and I'm curious in your thoughts. I

1027
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: think I know your thoughts. But the Ravens, after the

1028
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: likely touchdown was called off the board, they're facing a

1029
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: fourth and five from about the Steelers eight yard line.

1030
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: Twenty seven twenty two, about three three minutes left, and

1031
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: I'll give you the exact numbers, but they decided to

1032
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: go for it in that situation. They went for it

1033
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: on fourth and five. It wasn't a was not a

1034
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: goal to go situation. It was a fourth and five

1035
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: situation where they ended up going for it. They had

1036
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: all three timeouts with two twenty eight left to go

1037
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: in the contest. They threw a past to Mark Andrews,

1038
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: who was in complete. Steelers took over and then had

1039
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: to punt the ball back to Baltimore. Any consideration to

1040
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: kick a field goal down five with two and a

1041
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: half minutes and all three timeouts in that scenario one.

1042
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: Hundred and you already know how I think about this,

1043
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 5: And I think the old school player and me the

1044
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: old school coaches that are that I were around and

1045
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 5: have experience with in these situations, would have.

1046
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: Kicked the field goal. You kicked the field goal.

1047
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: There.

1048
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: You have essentially four timeouts.

1049
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: You stick because you have the three and you have

1050
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: the two minute one, and so even if you don't

1051
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: stop them on the first first down, you still have

1052
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: a chance in that scenario right to get the ball,

1053
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 5: and you only need a field goal to win the game.

1054
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 5: You have pretty much shut down the Steelers. They have

1055
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 5: no running game, so you have confidence in stopping that.

1056
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: Get Aaron Rodgers in the third and long situation and

1057
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: take your chances. He hasn't been Aaron Rodgers of the

1058
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: past here in these games, so you definitely take that chance.

1059
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: And you have a situation now at the end of

1060
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 5: the game where we saw Lamar trying to make a

1061
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: play at the thirty some yard line to throw a

1062
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: hill Marry up you can get the field goal for

1063
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 5: the win, right But obviously this is all hindsight twenty twenty.

1064
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: Even the fact that they went for Dan in that

1065
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: situation and didn't get it, we both could see the

1066
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 5: reason why with them being pent and you get, you know,

1067
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 5: have a chance to get good field position, which they did.

1068
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 5: If this is another thing you said it they weren't perfect.

1069
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: They got the punt, they get the ball in the

1070
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: return almost up the midfield with one time out left,

1071
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: in like a minute and forty seconds left, they get

1072
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: a holding penalty that takes them all the way back

1073
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 5: to around eighteen to twenty yard line, and so just

1074
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: so many things happen in that stretch, and we can

1075
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 5: question and look back at it.

1076
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: But and the question you asked me, yes, I would

1077
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: have taken it three, considering I know there would been

1078
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: a yardage change on it. You mentioned the penalty that happened,

1079
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: But I think you'd much rather just try to kick

1080
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: a fifty five or fifty six yard field goal in

1081
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: that scenario than maybe trying to throw one up for

1082
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: grabs at the end of the game as Lamar ended up.

1083
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: Ultimately they had a third to one of the Pittsburgh

1084
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: thirty yard lines, so it wasn't even a fifty yard

1085
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: fifty five yard there. It's more a forty eight forty

1086
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: nine yard or if you will, And that would have

1087
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: been the situation. And I just it's I understand the

1088
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: numbers and the odds.

1089
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: The Cleveland Browns.

1090
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Were in a scenario today where they ended up going

1091
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: for two in a game where they were down fourteen

1092
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: and didn't get it, and then we ultimately know the

1093
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: other two point conversion, which we will talk about there

1094
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: will be a whole shoud or conversation that we have

1095
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: coming up on the show. But in the analytics and

1096
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: how things play out, I just am so trying not

1097
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: to sound like an old guy here, Dannarios, I just

1098
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: don't think that the data. I'd rather sometimes I'd rather

1099
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: remember history than to rely on what the data may

1100
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: or may not say. I think it's easy to cop

1101
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: out and say exactly that the numbers said we should

1102
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: go for we had a sixty one percent chance. It

1103
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: was a better chance to go for it than not.

1104
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that at times is a

1105
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: is a cop out. Do I think Matt Lafleur should

1106
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: kick a field goal against the Bucks in the NFC

1107
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Championship game five years ago? No, you go forward to

1108
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: that scenario. But I just think that there are times

1109
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: where you can't extend the game. You can force it,

1110
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: you can allow your team to be in it. Nobody

1111
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: wants to be thought of his chicken. They don't want

1112
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: to be thought.

1113
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 3: Of as old.

1114
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: They want to be new and innovative and trust the numbers.

1115
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that always puts yourself in

1116
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: the best chance to win. Dan, And you said it

1117
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 2: like I feel that teams are chasing too many points.

1118
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: I've told you that before.

1119
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 5: But also where is your feel for the game, Like

1120
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: you can't just youth and that just doesn't that's not

1121
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 5: going to win you Super Bowls. We saw a coach

1122
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: in the Chargers, Staley, who was all analytical. He got

1123
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 5: fired in what two years because he was doing nonsense,

1124
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 5: but even hardball. In this game, they're down seventeen three,

1125
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 5: they score, make it seventeen nine, they missed the extra point.

1126
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: They score again.

1127
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: Instead of going for two at that moment early in

1128
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 5: the game, they kick touch your point because if you

1129
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 5: do that, you're only you're down eight. You're not down

1130
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: nine if you miss it. And so you're playing smart

1131
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: and you're doing things by the feel and how things

1132
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 5: are operating in the game. Then you get into a

1133
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: situation where now you feel like you have to go

1134
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: for points and go for touchdowns and all these weird situations.

1135
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 5: Fourth and five isn't guaranteed, No fourth and one isn't guaranteed,

1136
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 5: But you're not giving yourself the best opportunity to win

1137
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: and be successful.

1138
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: Quick Cup did of the games that I just want

1139
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: to make one more point.

1140
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: Then we're going to welcome in Adam Kaplan on the

1141
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: other side, Rams Matthew Stafford another touchdown path to Kobe Parkinson.

1142
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: So it's thirty one to ten Rams on top of

1143
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, Gino Smith out of the game, Kenny Pickett

1144
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: is in for the Raiders. They were unable to convert

1145
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: on a fourth and goal from about the five yard line,

1146
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: so Denver takes over up twenty one to seven. Early

1147
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter of that contest. Cole Comet has

1148
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: just caught a pass down the sidelines for the Bears

1149
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: early in the third quarter, but Chicago knocking.

1150
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: On the door.

1151
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: They're down to the Green Bay eleven, down fourteen to

1152
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: three in that one. Nice play by Kayleb Williams and

1153
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: comment on the catch to get the Bears into scoring territory.

1154
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told us this game wasn't over yet, Dan,

1155
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 5: and get a score here, get back in it, and

1156
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 5: maybe we'll have an interesting game here between these two.

1157
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: Now, the point that I want to make on there's

1158
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: a lot of controversy quickly, and I'm going to try

1159
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: to do this succinctly because I think it makes the

1160
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: most sense. We've seen teams get within nine by scoring

1161
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown in a game, so they would get within nine.

1162
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: Extra point would make it a two point game. It

1163
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: would make it a use me. The extra point would

1164
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: make it an eight point game, where a two point

1165
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: conversion would make it a seven point game. If people

1166
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 2: are saying, like, why aren't you making it a one

1167
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: score game at that point? And the reason is this,

1168
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: This is the best way that I can say it

1169
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: is you don't know it's not a three score game

1170
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: until you miss the conversion. And the sooner that you

1171
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: know that it's a three point possession game, the better,

1172
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: And that is why you see teams doing this more.

1173
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: The point I'm saying, Kerry is if you make it

1174
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: an eight point game, it still isn't a two It

1175
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: still isn't a one possession game, because we don't know

1176
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: if you're going to get the two point conversion in

1177
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: that scenario, and if you don't get the two point conversion,

1178
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: guess what. Ultimately it was a three possession game. So

1179
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: that's why you're seeing that more and more. Nick Sirianni

1180
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: was put under the microscope by it. But for as

1181
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: much as old school as we are, like I can

1182
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: understand a team's decision in that situation to end up

1183
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: going because you want to know sooner rather than later

1184
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: that you're in a three possession game, and if you

1185
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: score the touchdown, kick the extra point and are within

1186
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: eight instead of going for two. You're not going to

1187
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: find out if you're in a three possession game until

1188
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: you actually make or miss the two point conversion.

1189
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're right. I know you're right on it

1190
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: with the thinking.

1191
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just I just in the league that

1192
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 5: in the way that it is right now, they're all

1193
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 5: just chasing so many ghost points for me, and so

1194
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 5: it's just hard for me to fathom. And I'm sure

1195
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 5: like you're you're you're in the same boat as me

1196
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: as far as our eras and what football was for us,

1197
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: and so for me to see this new like chase point, Yeah,

1198
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 5: for me, it's hard for me.

1199
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: The Bears get in the end zone, Caleb Williams a

1200
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: touchdown pass, all the media's the key is so right

1201
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: now the Bears they're looking at it, and you never know.

1202
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: I through you.

1203
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 2: It'll be fourteen to nine if the call holds. Broncos

1204
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: still up on the Raiders twenty one to seven.

1205
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: Do you go you dan right now?

1206
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: Or do you just kick next to point? No, you

1207
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: go for two, go for two? Yeah, yep, make it

1208
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: make it a three point game. And they are they

1209
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: called it a touchdown. They are going for two. Rams

1210
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: continue to lead the Cardinals thirty one to ten. The

1211
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: Rams got the football first and ten will quick tell

1212
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: you if Caleb Williams is able to convert this for

1213
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: the Bears to make it a three point game. As

1214
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: they do, go for the conversion. Common young guy is

1215
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: in the backfield and manung guy is pushed in at

1216
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: first second effort by the offensive line got him in,

1217
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: So the Bears pull within three of Green Bay. Our

1218
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: NFL insider Adam Kaplan will join us. Next we'll find

1219
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: out who fell in or out of the circle of trust.

1220
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: Plus what in the world do the Colts do now

1221
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: without Daniel Jones. That's next year. On Fox Sports Radio,

1222
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Bears and Packers.

1223
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 14: A kiss motion play fake Caleb gunna roll, Caleb's got

1224
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 14: trouble in his face, throws to the end zones a

1225
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 14: kiss touchdown, touchdown.

1226
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 7: Bears one yard.

1227
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 14: Hello, but he's a kiss on a roll the mighty

1228
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 14: man number one hit his face. Oh my goodness, nice

1229
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 14: throw he had zip on it and zip keys to touchdown.

1230
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Touch back to Dan Byer and carry Rhodes.

1231
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: I got some good news and some bad news for

1232
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: the Bears fans. Bear's the radio network on the call.

1233
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: The good news is is the two bunkin version was good,

1234
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: which pulled you within three. The bad news is as

1235
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: Green Bay is immediately answered Jordan Love a forty one

1236
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: yard touchdown pass to Christian Watson. The extra point was good.

1237
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Packer's up twenty one to eleven. Now midway through the

1238
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: third quarter, six minutes to go in Las Vegas, and

1239
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: the Broncos lead the Raiders twenty one to seven in

1240
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: a game where Gino Smith left because of injury. Denver

1241
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: just working the clock again six minutes and counting up

1242
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: fourteen and the Rams are up thirty one to ten

1243
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: on the Cardinals. Joining us as he does every week

1244
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: at this spot Adam Kaplan or Fox Sports Radio NFL

1245
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: in Center. Also hear him on the Inside the Birds podcast.

1246
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: I want to start in Baltimore. Does the NFL have

1247
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: an officiating problem if we're overruling Isaiah likely toucheddown catches.

1248
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 15: Look that that was certainly surprising. I'm looking what happens

1249
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 15: is because they're allowed to do this, and this has

1250
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 15: been credit to the NFL actually doing this for years.

1251
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 15: There will be there should be a pool report where

1252
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 15: one of the beat writers, particularly for Baltimore will ask

1253
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 15: the lead official, Hey, what happened on this play?

1254
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 4: It happens every week, no matter what the game.

1255
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 15: They have a pool report, and we should have that.

1256
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 15: But look, the bottom line is the Ravens. They didn't

1257
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 15: play well. I give them credit for coming back. They

1258
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 15: pushed the Steelers. The Steelers had to feel like, oh boy,

1259
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 15: we were dominating this game. We almost blew it kind

1260
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 15: of did, but they held on for dear life and

1261
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 15: and and what I call the six and six ball

1262
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 15: there in Baltimore. Nobody wants to win that division. Whoever

1263
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 15: wins it will get in obviously, but no one else

1264
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 15: is going to get in for the playoffs in that division.

1265
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 15: That that the Cincinnati by the way, that that bubble.

1266
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: Was burst today.

1267
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do want to say this, the pool

1268
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: report is out, Adam.

1269
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: To your pain, I haven't got it yet.

1270
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. The question was what went into the decision to

1271
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: reverse the touchdown. The NFL Vice President of Instant Replay

1272
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: Mark Butterworth and referee Alex Moore were as part of

1273
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: the questioning. Butterworth said, quote, the ruling on the field

1274
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: was a touchdown. We quickly looked at the play. The

1275
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: receiver controlled the ball, in the air, had his right

1276
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: foot down, then his left foot. The control is the

1277
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: first aspect of the catch. The second aspect is two

1278
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: feet or a body part in bounds, which he did have.

1279
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: Then the third step is an act common to the game,

1280
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: and therefore he could get the third foot down. Before

1281
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: he could get the third foot down, the ball was

1282
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: ripped out. Therefore it was an ankle pass.

1283
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: That's that you know exactly to carry that, that's got

1284
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: to be I'm glad you brought that up, because I

1285
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: not I had not gotten it yet.

1286
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 15: Yeah I had, you know, I'm on the Ravens list,

1287
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 15: but I actually I have not check my email.

1288
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you have that. So that's unbelievable. I mean,

1289
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: they're basically saying it's a touchdown.

1290
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's God.

1291
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 15: It's I'm you know, I I've kind of because I

1292
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 15: know the rules pretty well. I've you know, I'll defend

1293
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 15: the officials when they need it. When I think the

1294
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 15: fans of the media doesn't know what they're talking about.

1295
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 15: I I have a hard time with that one.

1296
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: I really do.

1297
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 15: I have no saying I don't got it root for teams,

1298
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 15: I don't care who are games, but I'm.

1299
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: Appalled, to be honest with you, because if it's.

1300
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 15: That explanation, now what what I And let me just

1301
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 15: explain a couple of things here before we move on

1302
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 15: to the next game. Dan, this is where the Competition

1303
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 15: Committee has to take a look at this. This is

1304
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 15: this is where it goes in their purview. They're going

1305
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 15: to look at this play. Trust me that this is

1306
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 15: going to be on it because this should not be happening.

1307
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 15: That's a catch, like you know, like it's the league.

1308
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 15: Dan will say, does it plants the eye test? Does

1309
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 15: it look like a catch?

1310
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 7: It?

1311
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 15: When we have the catch no catch rule, which is

1312
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 15: a total joke that Leak admitted it. They want to

1313
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 15: take that away. They want to take it away where

1314
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 15: there's any guesswork. We've been doing really well with it,

1315
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 15: by the way, but this is the worst thing that

1316
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 15: I've seen in a long time.

1317
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: My My issue is that it was called a touchdown

1318
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: on the field, and I think that that was that

1319
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: was good enough to that point, like this isn't I

1320
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: don't know how many Steeler fans are like, uhh, not

1321
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: a catch?

1322
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: No right right right right.

1323
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Speaker 4: To our traffic.

1324
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Speaker 15: By the way, it's got to be indisputable, visible Yeah,

1325
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 15: visible evidence, it's not come on.

1326
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: So Repledge just overstepped their bounds in mind and bad.

1327
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 15: I agree, man, this has got to be cleaned up.

1328
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 15: This is this is a shame. But the Ravens didn't

1329
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 15: play well. Lamar is clearly not right with the end.

1330
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 15: He's got a hamstring as time ankle.

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01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 15: I give him credit for fighting back, but that's a

1333
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 15: tough one.

1334
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's move on. But we could talk

1335
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 5: about that all day because it's it is a lot.

1336
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was egregious as well. But uh, let's

1337
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Speaker 5: let's move on to that Bengals and Bills game.

1338
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: You just said it.

1339
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Speaker 5: The Bengals have been eliminated with with with this game,

1340
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 5: but came out looked like they were going to run

1341
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: away with this game. And then you know, Josh Allen

1342
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 5: becomes Josh Allen then pulls the Bills out of out

1343
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 5: of the grass with the beat and wins the game.

1344
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: But I was telling Dan, I was telling Dan Adam,

1345
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 5: I just don't believe in the Bills. I know they're

1346
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,479
Speaker 5: pulling these out, but but but what is this team

1347
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 5: moving forward and what and can they make a run

1348
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 5: down the stretch.

1349
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 15: Well, look, it's a wide open This is the most

1350
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 15: wide open I can remember in decades. I mean, you

1351
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 15: could say the Rams are the best team, and I

1352
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 15: wouldn't argue with you, but they're not dominant in any way,

1353
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 15: shape or form. They're just a really fishing team, well coached,

1354
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 15: don't have a lot of injuries. The Bills have a

1355
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 15: number of injuries on defense. It showed today Burrow though

1356
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 15: he's turned it over, but I mean he did what

1357
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 15: he could to help them. They can't run the ball,

1358
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 15: their defense is bad. They're but getting back to the Bills. Well,

1359
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 15: James Cooks he didn't score today, but I'll tell you

1360
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 15: what he's been. It's been a nice story and a

1361
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 15: lot of people around the league did not think he

1362
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 15: could be lead back because he's not as big physically

1363
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 15: as his older brother Dalvin. And we've seen this with

1364
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 15: a number of backs Kyen Williams. You could go they're

1365
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 15: like five or six feet backs in the NFL who

1366
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 15: are not the physical prototype.

1367
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 4: Cook is one of them.

1368
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 15: He's been a great story and Josh Allen when it

1369
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 15: doesn't look good, he seems to break your back. And

1370
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 15: their passing game has been disappointing the season, yep. But

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 15: Alan he did what he had today and it was impressive.

1372
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 15: You know, it's kind of funny because people are making

1373
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 15: a big deal out of.

1374
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: The weather, and I know there were some weather problems.

1375
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 15: But to me, if there's not bad win and the

1376
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 15: win from what I understand, wasn't bad, you could score

1377
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 15: and you saw that today.

1378
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy three points. Eda Kaplan joining us here find

1379
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: him on exit Kaplin NFL. We know he's going to

1380
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: be the starter for the rest of the year if

1381
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: he's healthy. But how far does today's performance go for

1382
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders in securing the job for next year.

1383
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: He did a nice job.

1384
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what that touchdown to Harold Fannon if

1385
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 15: you have not seen it, he got popped and that

1386
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 15: was it his anticipation throw. See, this is the part

1387
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 15: about Sanders game that not enough people talk about.

1388
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: He's a dropback passer.

1389
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 15: He's not a runner at all. He could scramble. He's

1390
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 15: a pocket passer and he makes some really good throws.

1391
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 15: I understand the Titans defense is bad, that's not the point.

1392
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 15: You got to make throws no matter who you're playing against.

1393
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 15: And he gave a shot to win there. I mean,

1394
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 15: their defense, shockingly as good as it's been, had its problems,

1395
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 15: but he gave them a chance to pull the game out.

1396
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what that play was. I don't know

1397
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 4: what Stefanska and his staff. I was like, what are

1398
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: you doing? I can't understand it's a two point play.

1399
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: But I just didn't understand that play at all.

1400
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, No, that play was terrible.

1401
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 5: But I want to talk about this game that's going

1402
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 5: on right now. Actually Green Bay in Chicago, Chicago just

1403
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: kicked the field goal to cut it to seven, and

1404
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 5: they're right there. They have a chance to kind of

1405
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 5: steal this game. Are you surprised that they're in this

1406
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 5: game right now as it stands, or were you expecting

1407
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 5: a tight game today?

1408
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1409
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 15: Look, Caleb, I'm not giving credit for bringing him back

1410
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 15: on the touchdown, but you know he has accuracy issues.

1411
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 15: I know it's very cold in Green Bay today, but yeah,

1412
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 15: the problem is they cannot run the ball like they

1413
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 15: like to with Manungai in swift and Kayla Williams scrambling

1414
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 15: and I know romanduon say he's not playing, but that's

1415
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 15: palsy comparison for their inability to run the football. When

1416
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 15: they can't run the football, well, it's really hard for

1417
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 15: them to win. And that's really been the story today

1418
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 15: is their inability to run the football where they were unbelievable.

1419
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 15: They two hundred yard runners against Philly by the middle

1420
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 15: of the third quarter last week. It's a big reason

1421
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 15: why they've been such a shocker this season.

1422
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 4: At nine to three.

1423
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, I've

1424
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened to the Indianapolis Colts. Well,

1425
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: I know what's happened to the Indianapolis Colts, oh that way,

1426
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: but it's really really bad, and it seems like its

1427
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: stems honestly from when they made the trade of the deadline,

1428
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: when a lot of people thought, wow, two first round

1429
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: picks for Sauce Gardner Man, the Colts are going for it.

1430
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: Now there's not even to guarantee if this injury to

1431
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is as significant that he would be ready

1432
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six.

1433
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: So what is a team like the Colts do in

1434
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: this spot? Adam, Well, we.

1435
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 4: Actually talked about this before.

1436
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 15: We remember they don't have a first round pick, and

1437
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 15: what you're going to have to do because they wanted

1438
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 15: they were going to do all they could to bring

1439
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 15: Jones back. Effect would have bet the house if they

1440
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 15: couldn't reach an agreementy would have used the franchise tag. Well,

1441
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 15: that's out the door now. Riley Leonard's clearly not the answer.

1442
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 15: Who is who is now the backup because Richardson had

1443
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 15: the ubertal fracture into reserve.

1444
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: So they'll have to.

1445
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 15: Look when we'll talk more about this once all the

1446
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 15: underclassmen declare. Once we get that list, that the underclassman

1447
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 15: who decided that they're going to declare the early word.

1448
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 15: By the way, it's not a deep quarterback group. It's

1449
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 15: not great, but you're always going to find value somewhere.

1450
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 15: Chris Ballard, he's been this league a long time as

1451
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 15: a scout of personnel director. He's gonna have to do

1452
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 15: his work because he's not gonna have a first round

1453
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 15: pick unless he trades some some players. He gets a

1454
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 15: first round pick, by the way, dan uh and then

1455
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 15: you've got I'm going to give you a name. By

1456
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 15: the way, he's going to be very hot in free agency,

1457
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 15: and that's Mac Jones. I've talked to multiple teams are

1458
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 15: looking for a quarterback. I believe Mac Jones is going

1459
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 15: to be this year's Daniel Jones. He's going to be

1460
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 15: that guy next year. I'm telling you, yeah, really good.

1461
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 15: He's his tape is really good. I've told this he

1462
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 15: might be. But to go back to the Chris Ballard

1463
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 15: portion of this, if he's a GM, yes, that's that's

1464
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 15: my question. Like considering like the Sauce Gardner trure. I

1465
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 15: just I don't believe trading two first round.

1466
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: Picks for a cornerback was going to put the Colts

1467
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: into Like I felt like he was almost cashing in

1468
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: all these good vibes and it feels like from that

1469
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: point on it is it's completely just turned around. I

1470
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: mean then they went to Luck. Yeah, just it's bad now.

1471
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean Anthony Richardson would still be under contract next year.

1472
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as an option as well. I

1473
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: just don't know, because they're probably going to miss the

1474
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: playoffs if Riley Leonard.

1475
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 15: Well, here's the thing, and they lose the tiebreaker against

1476
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 15: the Chiefs. If they if they tie, Chiefs beat them.

1477
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 15: Of course, that crazy game where the Chiefs came back

1478
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 15: from way way back in Kansas City so yeah, it

1479
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 15: just seems it just seems like it's gonna be hard

1480
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 15: from the win and defares Bucker with his neck injury,

1481
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 15: they don't know if he'll being about be able to

1482
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 15: cut back. That's that's a shame. Yeah, I feel bad

1483
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 15: for them now. At least they'll have Sauce Gardner for

1484
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 15: many years to come. They've got Shavari's Ward and Gardner

1485
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 15: a Gardner and that that their quarnerback group is under

1486
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 15: contract for a while.

1487
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's a shame.

1488
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 15: It just they've had bad luck and Jonathan Taylor's up

1489
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 15: is as effective oddly since this has happened. Yeah, their

1490
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 15: season is so and look it's probable for torn achilles

1491
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 15: for Jones.

1492
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1493
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 15: So and when Shane Stucket said don't look good, I

1494
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 15: know what that means. So you don't have to fill

1495
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 15: me in on that one. I know what I know

1496
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 15: when the coach says that without injury, they have to

1497
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 15: wait till the test and comes back. But yeah, it's

1498
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 15: a shame. Daniel Jones, man, he's had this crazy career.

1499
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 4: It's a shame.

1500
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 5: Well Adam and Dan, I I it all goes downhill

1501
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 5: when you do a deal with the Jets. So just

1502
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 5: so you know, stay clear of New York.

1503
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: Any other team out there trying to win. They tried

1504
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: to wear different uniforms today so people wouldn't recognize.

1505
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: We recognize it.

1506
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 4: Jeez, the same old Jets.

1507
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 15: Very good many little drum bee for car.

1508
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 4: That's very funny. The way he said it was hilarious.

1509
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: Adam Love talking to you. I can't to do it.

1510
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: In week fifteen, we will talking about an Okay, I

1511
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: got facts, NFL Insider. Let's go to the news desk,

1512
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: Mansy Belanos. Maybe you can see Kerry Rhodes do a

1513
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: stand up when you're in New York City.

1514
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 12: Clearly, clearly we're missing something. You and Rob Parker can

1515
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 12: get together.

1516
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't do it, big dumb and dumber

1517
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: on the stage.

1518
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 12: And it could be funny, and it could be funny,

1519
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 12: all right. Jordan Love just went for another deep throw,

1520
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 12: but this one Romeo Dobs coundnot catch. I mean, Christian

1521
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 12: Watson has literally caught anything that Jordan Love has thrown

1522
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 12: at him. So far, he has four catches, eighty nine

1523
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 12: yards and two touchdowns. The Packers right now do lead

1524
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 12: the Bears twenty one to fourteen late in the third quarter,

1525
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 12: and Green Bay does have the ball, but they may

1526
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 12: be punting it out, punting it back to Chicago in

1527
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 12: a second. The Broncos extended their lead with the field goals,

1528
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 12: so they're on top of the Raiders twenty four to seven,

1529
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 12: less than four minutes to go in this one. And

1530
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 12: when it comes to the Rams on the Cardinal as well,

1531
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 12: it's been all Rams so far. Thirty one zero is

1532
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 12: a score with about one minute to go in the

1533
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 12: third quarter. Matthew Stafford is twenty one of thirty for

1534
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 12: two hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns. Puku Nakua

1535
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,879
Speaker 12: has six catches for one hundred and thirty six yards

1536
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 12: and a touchdown. Earlier today, it was the Seahawks who

1537
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 12: outscored the Falcons thirty seven to nine. Rashid Shahid returned

1538
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 12: the second half kickoff one hundred yards for a touchdown.

1539
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 12: Seattle's defense came up with three turnovers in this one,

1540
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 12: and it was a what six to six score at

1541
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 12: the half? Dan, Yep, it was sixty six, right, yeah. Look,

1542
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 12: it was like not the game you would think in

1543
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 12: the first half, and then in the second half Seattle

1544
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 12: was like oh, okay, okay, never.

1545
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 11: Mind, We're ready. We're ready. Bills are nine and four.

1546
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 12: They survived against the Bengals thirty three to thirty four

1547
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 12: in a snowstorm. The Jaguars are now at the top

1548
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 12: of the AFC South after beating the Colts thirty six

1549
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 12: to nineteen. Daniel Jones was ruled out with an achilles

1550
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 12: injury and things do not look good, but an MRI

1551
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 12: will confirm the situation for the Colts. The Steelers hung out,

1552
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 12: hung on against the Ravens twenty seven to twenty two.

1553
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 12: They have pazzole. They have sole possession of the AFC North.

1554
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 12: Dolphins roll past the Jets thirty four to ten, so

1555
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 12: Miami is still alive in the playoffs, which is what's crazy.

1556
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 12: The Saints had the upset win of the day over

1557
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 12: the Buccaneers, coming out on top in Tampa Bay on

1558
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 12: a rainy day. Twenty four to twenty was the final

1559
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 12: score there. Vikings crushed the Commanders thirty one to ten.

1560
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 12: Jaden Daniels was taking out with the left elbow injury,

1561
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 12: but it was out of precaution, while tight end zach

1562
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 12: Ertz was carded off with a leg injury and it's

1563
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 12: not expected to be a good situation. Titans defeated the

1564
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 12: Browns thirty one to twenty nine. Miles Garrett did get

1565
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 12: another sack, but he has not broken the record which

1566
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 12: everyone is waiting for. Commanders, Jets, Falcons, and Browns have

1567
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 12: been eliminated from playoff contention.

1568
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 11: That is official when it comes to the NBA.

1569
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 12: Lebron James is going to be active for today's Lakers

1570
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 12: game against the seventy six Ers that tips off at

1571
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 12: seven thirty Eastern time. The Knicks already defeated the Magic

1572
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,839
Speaker 12: one O six to one hundred before Orlando Franz Wagner

1573
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 12: had a nasty fall.

1574
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 11: Did you see that his leg buff cool, the knee buckled.

1575
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 11: It wasn't good.

1576
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 12: Left in the first quarter, and the Celtics defeated the

1577
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 12: Raptors one twenty one to one.

1578
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 11: Thirteen.

1579
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 12: Nuggets right now are on top of the Hornets on

1580
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 12: the road thirty nine to thirty four.

1581
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,480
Speaker 4: Back to you guys.

1582
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 2: She is Monty Belangials. Find her at Monty Blas. The

1583
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: Raiders just got into the end zone. I'm checking escoor

1584
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: out Dan Kenny Pickett to Shdrick Jackson. It's Jackson's second

1585
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: game that he's appeared in this year, and CBS didn't

1586
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: have a graphic for him. No, they didn't have his name.

1587
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: It was they had They had his head shot and

1588
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: then it said touchdown and usually it pops up and

1589
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: would say like Rock Bowers, Ashton Genty, and it just

1590
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: stayed touchdown. That's all it was. But Shdrick Jackson getting

1591
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: in his first season in the NFL.

1592
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: It's cool.

1593
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: Yes, Matthew Stafford has just throwing another touchdown past.

1594
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: It's a pooka nikua.

1595
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: So it's all Rams today, a double move put on

1596
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: the rookie Will Johnson. I'll make those mistakes now. Then

1597
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: then you know, further on in your career you learn

1598
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: not to bite. But it's all Rams. Thirty seven to

1599
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: ten with the extra point coming up. The extra point

1600
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: was good with the Raiders, So now within ten of

1601
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: Denver in that contest, he is carry Rhoads. I'm dan Byer.

1602
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 2: Monzie's not going anywhere. She's got to look at some

1603
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: fantasy numbers for us. That's next tier.

1604
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: On end Zone Radio, Ram said, Cardinals at the five

1605
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: pitch pooka game.

1606
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,480
Speaker 10: On one play a thirty.

1607
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: One yard strikes Nkua with a new career high in touchdowns.

1608
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 1: Back to Dan Byer and Carry Rhodes.

1609
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,879
Speaker 2: Rams Radio Network on the Highlight. Rams got the football

1610
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: again after a Carolina punts. It's been all Rams today,

1611
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: ramming it up in Glendale thirty eight to ten. Matthew

1612
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: Savag's actually coming back out onto the field, Carry Roads.

1613
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeahsume get him out the game. And I want to know,

1614
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: Danny you know this song? Are you serious?

1615
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: You better know this song?

1616
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: George Michael's my favorite artist, like, like I honestly thought

1617
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: Mary played it for me.

1618
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: To be honestly, you guys are like in your own world.

1619
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 2: Honestly, here nobody cares about me, Like seriously, Chris Purfett earlier.

1620
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, right, Chris, wrong, Dan, you know not?

1621
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 7: You know?

1622
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. How am I supposed to know that?

1623
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know?

1624
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 3: You didn't know that?

1625
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: Sorry?

1626
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 5: Wait, how are you going into this diatribe about nobody

1627
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 5: caring about you a liking you?

1628
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: Right now?

1629
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: Because I honestly thought that Mary was playing it for me, like, oh,

1630
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: danill liked this song? Then you guys take ownership of it,

1631
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: like yeah, Dan, you know this ownership?

1632
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 3: But I knows and do you know the song?

1633
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 5: I don't know about your favorite artist, George Michael.

1634
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: I know that, well, I don't know.

1635
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: We are not George Michael.

1636
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: Rams have scored again.

1637
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: All right, I don't know.

1638
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: Let's how about we talk about my music instead of

1639
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 2: Carrie Rhodes's singles.

1640
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 3: That's why I brought it up for you to see.

1641
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 3: If you know it's you know, it's look in My Goodness.

1642
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: He got really upset about that. I was trying to

1643
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: bring him in about a nice thing.

1644
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 5: I knew he probably knew the song, but the fact

1645
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 5: you're talking about your favorite artist.

1646
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a team called the Louisville Cardinals?

1647
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: Have ever heard of them? Have I heard of them?

1648
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? See, that would be the equivalent. That is not

1649
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: the equivalent. You know, I went to school there. Why

1650
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: would that be the equivalent?

1651
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 5: How would And I'm just saying like that doesn't make

1652
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 5: any sense. You've been sensitive on that one, Dan, that

1653
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 5: was that was it was a double hit.

1654
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: It was Mary didn't know Carrie's asking me. Chris ca Yeah,

1655
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: that is true.

1656
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:32,879
Speaker 3: That's insane.

1657
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: Chris Prefett gave me the stiff arm heisman earlier in

1658
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: the show, So but I appreciate Manzi sticking up for me.

1659
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: Danow what did you want to say about last What

1660
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: did you want to say for the last Christmas? I

1661
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 2: thought you said you said you asked me if I

1662
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: knew the song? When I figured then you had a point.

1663
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: That was no point.

1664
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 5: I just wanted to I was trying to bridge the gap,

1665
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 5: to make our relationship tighter, but you just push it wider.

1666
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: Dan, There's no chasm now. It may only seem like

1667
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: three feet, but it might as well be three mile

1668
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: right now between me.

1669
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: There you go. That was that was That was intense.

1670
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 3: I can't believe you went that route.

1671
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 11: For for you, for me or Carrie for you?

1672
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: No, no, for you?

1673
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 16: Dan?

1674
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

1675
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: Is that because you got a fake f instanding next

1676
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: to you? That's fakes there by the way, all right, yes,

1677
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: because I actually put her in the same group as yours,

1678
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: like I had no ideaactly.

1679
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 3: I know who Dan's favorite band is together? Huh?

1680
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 11: How long have you had done a show together?

1681
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 3: A couple of Yeah, a couple of years.

1682
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 5: I've known one here and wham or George Michael's never

1683
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 5: coming up?

1684
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 3: Fake friend.

1685
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: Here's the crazy thing is I know that it has what.

1686
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm not even offended like by that.

1687
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: You just showed it. Let's go to Mazi for some

1688
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: hits in.

1689
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 7: The fantasy.

1690
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 12: And missus So funny Kram got in the end zone again.

1691
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 12: I think you were mentioning that Dan Rams are just

1692
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 12: killing it.

1693
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: Cardinals defenders were closer to Blake Coorum than me and

1694
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: carry off right now and ran like seventy He really.

1695
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 12: Did it, wasn't you guys said, Oh, Matthew Stafford is

1696
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 12: back in the game.

1697
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 11: And then Blake Korum literally just got in the end.

1698
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 3: Z out he did.

1699
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 11: That's how quickly it happened. I wish Matthew Stafford would

1700
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 11: have thrown another touchdout it. That's neither here nor there.

1701
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 12: Some fantasy misses today, guys. This one was due to injury.

1702
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 12: But if you put Jade and Daniels when you heard

1703
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 12: that he was back. Jade and Daniels only ended with

1704
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 12: two points today after being removed because of a left

1705
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 12: elbow injury against seventy eight yards in an interception.

1706
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 11: But again he was injured. But some of the other

1707
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 11: quarterbacks that did play and did not deliver.

1708
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 12: Baker Mayfield did not have a very great game today

1709
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 12: at home while it was raining, twelve points. He threw

1710
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 12: for one hundred and twenty two yards one touchdown. He

1711
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 12: did have six carries for forty two yards. But that's

1712
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 12: what Baker Mayfield deal did. They're a mess, a little bit,

1713
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 12: a little bit, and to a talk of my law,

1714
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 12: eleven points despite their win today, one hundred and twenty

1715
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 12: seven yards and a touchdown. When it comes to the

1716
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 12: wide receivers, yeah, the Vikings won, but.

1717
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 11: Justin Jefferson did not.

1718
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 12: He ended with three points, only two catches for eleven

1719
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 12: yards for Justin Jefferson. Speaking of the Bucks, Emecha Abuka

1720
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 12: just three points today, two catches for fifteen yards. It

1721
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 12: was raining in Tampa Bay and Chris Lave also struggled

1722
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 12: today for the Saints six points, three catches for fifty yards.

1723
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 12: When it came to the running backs, Aaron Jones seven points,

1724
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 12: just fourteen carries for seventy six yards Ravens loss.

1725
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 11: Derek Henry had ten points, twenty five.

1726
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 12: Carries for just ninety four yards, and Jonathan Taylor, who

1727
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 12: started out so hot and has cooled off the last

1728
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 12: couple of weeks, had a good start and then Daniel

1729
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 12: Jones exits the game. So Jonathan Taylor ends with eleven points,

1730
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 12: twenty one carries, seventy one yards, and a touchdown. These

1731
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 12: are just some of the fantasy misses.

1732
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 11: Of the day.

1733
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: Those three touchdown Jonathan Taylor games are a distant distint.

1734
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 11: They really really.

1735
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: Are a long time ago, yeah, far.

1736
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 12: Away, unfortunate and now with their situation even more yes.

1737
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough time for the Colts right now in Jacksonville.

1738
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: By the way, it's just beating everybody. It's what the

1739
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: Jaguars are doing, just like we all thought, yes, yes, right.

1740
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: The Garry still likes the Texans to win that division.

1741
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 15: Tho.

1742
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: They got a big one tonight with the Chiefs.

1743
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: That's correct, they're gonna win.

1744
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 5: They're gonna win tonight against the Chiefs, and they're gonna

1745
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 5: be tied for first place in that division.

1746
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, they're gonna win that division.

1747
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: The Texans are a team of the great defense, and

1748
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: the Chiefs obviously right now not as strong as they

1749
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: would have hoped on The offensive line could be down

1750
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: three guys tonight that for that showdown. So Texans sitting

1751
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: there at seven and five, Chiefs at six and six,

1752
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: Jaguars nine and four, showed to keep pace they just

1753
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: have to.

1754
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: They'd be one game back. But still Texans came back.

1755
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: In that game against the Jaguars earlier this season, so

1756
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: that may be one that the Jaguars end up ruining.

1757
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: All Right, here, we're the Bears are third and eight

1758
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: at the Green Bay fifteen and they've just thrown a

1759
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver screen to lose their burden. He gets the

1760
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: first down, so it's going to be first in goal

1761
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: with nine to twenty five and counting. Bears down seven

1762
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 2: to the Packers. Caleb Williams one hundred and twenty four

1763
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown so far. But it's that running

1764
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: game for Chicago that's so dangerous. Kerry, Yeah, no, I

1765
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: getting back in here. This is a game that, like

1766
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: I said, we should pay attention to. This game wasn't

1767
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: nover in Chicago's they're fighting. They're fighting and the first

1768
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 2: and goal situation just seconds remaining, Raiders have the football

1769
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: down ten to the Broncos. There may be other reasons

1770
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: why people care about that game, depending on what happens,

1771
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: but we saw stat that when Schdriick Jackson scored, he

1772
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: was the first player over the age of twenty four

1773
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: to score a touchdown for the Raiders this season, right,

1774
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that was trying to prove

1775
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: that the Raiders are young or is just a really

1776
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: sad stat Bears incomplete on first and goal will tell

1777
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: you if they cash in for the touchdown next he's

1778
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: carry I'm Dan. It's end Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio.

1779
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: All right, now, it's Jordan Love's turn. A twenty one

1780
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 2: all ballgame at Lambeau. Jordan Love is just hitting Jayden

1781
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: Red across the middle, a Red takes the ball into

1782
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: Bears tarots and again twenty one all tie between these

1783
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: NFC North rivals. Welcome in.

1784
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 3: It is end Zone Radio.

1785
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: The Rams are up on the Cardinals forty five to seventeen.

1786
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson making a little bit closer as he was

1787
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: able to catch his second touchdown pass of the game,

1788
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: but the Rams just working on clock. Matthew Stafford no

1789
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: longer in the game. Jimmy Garoppolo is in and there's

1790
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: still eleven minutes to go in this contest. And then

1791
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll with the decision, the decision. With five seconds

1792
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: left in down ten, Kerry kicks a forty six yard

1793
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 2: field goal to lose by seven.

1794
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 3: They were close man, they're really closing that game.

1795
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: Do you think, being in Las Vegas, that Pete Carroll

1796
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 2: knew what that spread may have been.

1797
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 3: There's no way he does not know what the spread

1798
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: it is.

1799
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: I every college coach, I knows because their boosters will

1800
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 2: bet on their school, and you gotta take care of

1801
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 2: the boosters. Like I get that. I thought I understand

1802
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: if they would have kicked with ten seconds left, then

1803
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: you say make the field goal. Onside kick, you throw

1804
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: up a Hail Mary. There was no reason to kick

1805
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: a field goal with five seconds left, and Daniel Carlson

1806
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: makes it and makes some people very happy. I honestly,

1807
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: I assume, and I hadn't heard the crowd. I'm sure

1808
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: it was tons of Broncos backers, and I'm sure that

1809
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: to Pete Carroll just wanted to stick it to all

1810
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: the Broncos fans that were probably in attendance.

1811
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 5: It's crazy, like the state of sports and where we

1812
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 5: live now, and how like these games are over and

1813
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 5: the fact that we're still watching to make sure that

1814
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 5: these teams don't.

1815
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 3: Cover or cover it. It keeps people in gags.

1816
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 5: But the fact that Pete Carroll kicked that with no

1817
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 5: consequence for his team or as players.

1818
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 3: That's a slap in the face. In my opinion, I

1819
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 3: really don't like it.

1820
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 5: I laugh now because it is kind of it's a

1821
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 5: little funny, it's a little ironic, but it's not. I mean,

1822
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 5: if you're going to do anything, go for a touchdown?

1823
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 5: Why kick a field goal there?

1824
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 2: And that's the joy because then you can't ruin the

1825
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: bets of all the Broncos fans that showed up today.

1826
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: That's gotta be like that would be if I was

1827
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,839
Speaker 2: on family feud. That would be my number one answer

1828
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: right there. If Steve Harvey was here, and he's been

1829
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: here in these studios, if he were to say, top

1830
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: four answers on the board, why Pete Carroll kicked a

1831
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: field goal with five seconds left? I would be like,

1832
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: this carry. I'd be like to rub it in on

1833
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: the Broncos betters who had then recovering, and then it.

1834
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 3: Would be dinging.

1835
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: I'd be like, we'd like to play yes, there we go,

1836
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: let me have the other answers. That has got to

1837
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: be the reason, because it wasn't to extend the game. No, No,

1838
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll saying we're leaving here with something yes, and

1839
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna leave your money here. If you bet on

1840
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: the Broncos, too bad, so sad exactly. If you bet

1841
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: on the Packers, well there's hope tied up at twenty one,

1842
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: a third and one, but Josh Jacobs was able to

1843
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: break a tackle and get into the secondary and now

1844
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: a third and one run and it turns it into

1845
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: a first and goal opportunity for Green Bay. The Bears

1846
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 2: looked like they had him stop for a negative yardage carry,

1847
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: but Jacob's just too physical on the outside.

1848
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to make this play. The Bears, they

1849
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: played it well.

1850
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 5: The defensive band actually kept containing the corner was scared,

1851
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 5: didn't put his.

1852
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 3: That's not good tape.

1853
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 5: So when you get the right play, call the rights

1854
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 5: game from a defensive coordinator and you don't make the play,

1855
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 5: that tape is ugly on Monday.

1856
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: And now Emmanuel Wilson's come into the game and just

1857
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: slid down. That's one of the better field services that

1858
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: you're getting in the NFL. But it's still ten degrees

1859
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: and it's still December and can get slick. And that's

1860
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: what happened is Emmanuel Wilson, I thought was trying to

1861
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: make a cutback. What have we gotten into the end

1862
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: zone if you would have kept his feet but does not,

1863
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: So it's going to be second in goal, down at

1864
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: the three yard line. Now there's a Bear that's slow

1865
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: to get up. Yeah, something right corner the Packers in

1866
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: this scenario here, I think also I wouldn't mind taking

1867
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: some time off the clock, but time isn't necessarily of

1868
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: the essence. The Bears have all three timeouts. But in

1869
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: this trying to see where the injury ended up occurring,

1870
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 2: may have been who kicked in the head. I think

1871
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: he was already going down, but he ended up getting

1872
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: kicked in the head by Ah by a spike from

1873
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: the back of his heel. There are so many plays

1874
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: that Carrie sees as a former player that he knows

1875
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: how much they hurt. So there's going an injury timeout

1876
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: on the field. We'll get back, We'll tell you what

1877
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Green Bay does. It'll be second and goal from the

1878
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: three yard line. One of the biggest plays that we're

1879
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 2: going to see and the highlights played over and over,

1880
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: happened in Cleveland today and there was a point where

1881
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: the Browns were up thirty or were down thirty one

1882
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: to seventeen. And they came back, went for two, and

1883
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: it was thirty one to twenty three. Unable to get it.

1884
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 2: Almost Tennessee almost was able to take it back and

1885
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 2: bring it back for a score. Ran out of gas.

1886
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: It's still an eight point game. Titans unable to do

1887
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: with it, anything with it on first down, not unable

1888
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: to do anything on second down, unable to do anything

1889
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: on third down.

1890
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: Punt it back to the Browns.

1891
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 2: So Cleveland drives down the field, scores on a Shador

1892
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Sanders touchdown pass to Harold Fan and Junior, and then

1893
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 2: the decision carry to go for two, and they decided

1894
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: to go for two. On the Browns radio network.

1895
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: Need the two to tie the game, They're going cats.

1896
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: They're going pildcats.

1897
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 13: Judkins with white Heart in the backfield, two point conversion

1898
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 13: to tie back to Quinn shot. He's gonna fake the reverse.

1899
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 13: He's got it and now he may throw. No, he

1900
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 13: reverses field. Now he throws it back all the other

1901
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 13: way to the other side, and it's incomplete. Oh my,

1902
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 13: what was that? He faked the reverse?

1903
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,919
Speaker 9: I think he was supposed to pitch it and decided

1904
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 9: not to. But here's the thing. You got Schador playing

1905
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 9: so well leads you down the field twice and you

1906
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 9: turn it into a gimmick play.

1907
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 4: From the two.

1908
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Rob's Radio network, pointing out what I think many of

1909
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: us are talking about. Why should or Sanders wasn't on

1910
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: the field? Yeah, for that two point conversion? Any acceptable

1911
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: reason in that scenario.

1912
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think we want to see him have

1913
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 5: those opportunities. Right, We've been talking about it. Right, we

1914
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 5: don't know who this guy is yet, and you don't

1915
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 5: know who he is yet in these situations, So you

1916
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 5: have these plays that you work on throughout the week.

1917
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,879
Speaker 5: They look good in practice, you scheme it up on cards,

1918
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 5: it looks good, the defense kind of allows you to

1919
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 5: run it, and it looks like it's gonna work in

1920
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 5: the game. And so there are special points and moments

1921
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 5: in the game where you're gonna do it doesn't matter

1922
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 5: who the quarterback is. They're not just saying we got

1923
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 5: your do We're gonna take him off the field. This

1924
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 5: is a play they've worked on.

1925
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: Right, So.

1926
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 5: The success rate of that play working we don't know,

1927
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 5: because he didn't piss the ball, but it looked like

1928
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 5: it would have worked, and if it worked, we wouldn't

1929
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 5: be having this conversation, But the fact that it didn't

1930
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 5: happen and we don't get to see Shador, it just

1931
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 5: leads the conversation open.

1932
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing right now. It's third and

1933
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: goal for Green Bay.

1934
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs was stuffed, so it's gonna be third and

1935
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: goal from the three yard line.

1936
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: I think that there are a couple of.

1937
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 2: Things with this. We've seen Quinshaw Jenkins in the wildcat

1938
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: formation before, so maybe there was something on film that

1939
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: they had showed previous weeks that they felt that they

1940
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: could get the Titans on. And apparently it was because

1941
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: he was supposed to flip it back and there were

1942
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 2: receivers out in the flat. But I would also say

1943
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: this carry they did go for two earlier on the

1944
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: previous score Josh Jacobs touchdown, run three yards out, Packers

1945
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: in the lead, with three point thirty two left to

1946
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: go back to Shador and the Brons and the decision making.

1947
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: So this two point conversion, I don't know. This is

1948
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: one a but the other one that you need that

1949
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 2: you did earlier would have been a waste if you

1950
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: were to use that one. I don't My point being

1951
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: is I'm guessing you have about five two point conversion place.

1952
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: Is that a handful and to get within one score,

1953
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: maybe it wouldn't use your best one, but you would

1954
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: use one of your five. I think that this was

1955
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 2: their best one. I think this is the one where

1956
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: they're like, nobody's going to expect it, so you save

1957
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: it for that situation. It just wasn't executed, So I

1958
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 2: don't think it was necessarily them taking Shador off the field.

1959
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: And Kevin Stefanski hates shad Or Sanders, he might, I

1960
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 2: don't know, he might, But I think that this was

1961
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: their best two point play, even though they ran one

1962
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 2: earlier in the game and Quinn Shaw Judkins just forgot

1963
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: to pitch the ball.

1964
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.

1965
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 5: We didn't get in those situations, and it's intense in

1966
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 5: the game is flying and people on the other side

1967
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 5: are actually trying to stop you. You sometimes have a

1968
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 5: brain freeze and you don't make the play you're supposed

1969
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 5: to make.

1970
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: And so when you look at the play, we just looked.

1971
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 5: At it in the last in the last time out,

1972
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 5: it was wide open and he had both Watsons and

1973
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 5: the play would have worked if he'd done what the

1974
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 5: coach has told me to do and he didn't do it.

1975
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 2: Judkins remembered a half second too late. Yeah, because you

1976
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: could tell obviously, Ah, I was supposed to pitch it.

1977
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 3: Then he ran for his life and then.

1978
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: Tried to throw it back once he did, but then

1979
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 2: it was a forward pass and it ended up falling

1980
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: incomplete at that point.

1981
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 5: But but Dan, why would you why would you not

1982
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 5: let I mean obviously that we know the play could

1983
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 5: have worked, but take that away, like, why wouldn't you

1984
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 5: see I mean, you're trying to win a game. I'm

1985
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 5: just asking like a hypothetical, like let Sidor try to

1986
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 5: tie his thing.

1987
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: It sounds that I'm very pro Stefanski, but I think

1988
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 2: it is that this was their best two point play.

1989
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 2: This was the one that they thought that if they're

1990
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: going to get someone, they're gonna get him on this one.

1991
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: It's misdirection. It's not just throwing a ball up to

1992
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: Fannin or Djoku. It's it's not like we're going to

1993
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 2: give it to Judkins and he's going to run for

1994
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: three yards because we're going to put our jumbo package in.

1995
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: I think this is the one that you save in

1996
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: your back pocket. And the fact that they used one

1997
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: ear earlier with Shador on the field. That tells me

1998
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: and they didn't get it at that point, but that

1999
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: then tells me that they do have plays for Shador

2000
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: in that two point situation. I just feel that they

2001
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: felt this wasn't their best one. I think that they

2002
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: thought that this was the primo surprise play, we're going

2003
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: to get him. This place is going to go nuts,

2004
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 2: that this was number one on the chart and it

2005
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: just didn't work out.

2006
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 3: And then when you don't get it, we have these conversations.

2007
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I know, I know we're going to have

2008
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: that conversation. But I think it's as simple as that.

2009
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: I actually don't think it's anything personal about Shador. I

2010
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 2: think today's performance by Shador and how they came back

2011
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: in a game against honestly their defense let them down

2012
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 2: the game that they should have won this game alone

2013
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: would be reason why I would say, let's give him

2014
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: a shot next year, let's have him be our guy

2015
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty six, and we'll work around that.

2016
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Browns are one player away.

2017
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 2: Maybe they think that they are because of how good

2018
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: their defense is, but the defense wasn't there today. But

2019
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: I think that Shador is done enough and just this

2020
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: performance alone is the reason why he should get an

2021
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: opportunity to be the starting quarterback next year.

2022
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're definitely not one player away. There are a

2023
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 5: couple of players away on offense in particular, and so

2024
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 5: they need they need skill position upgrades. And I think

2025
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 5: if you go into the next season knowing that you

2026
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 5: just need a couple of upgrades on the offensive side

2027
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 5: of the ball and you have your signal caller, makes

2028
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 5: it a little bit easier to move forward. And I

2029
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 5: think what should do and actually getting to being able

2030
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 5: to see him play from behind a little bit today

2031
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 5: and then open up the playbook a little bit so

2032
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 5: we can see that he can make on time, on

2033
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 5: target throws, early anticipation throws which we saw. I think

2034
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 5: that bodes well for just the evaluation process for them

2035
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 5: in general. I mean, obviously we want to see it,

2036
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 5: but for them, they get to see it and also

2037
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 5: their teammates get to see it. Right, It's fine in

2038
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 5: practice we get to see you make some throws and

2039
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 5: you look like you can be the part of an

2040
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 5: NFL quarterback, But until you get into these games and

2041
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 5: actually have to comfort behind and make real big league throws.

2042
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 5: Then we never know, but he did some of those

2043
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 5: things today.

2044
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 2: He was twenty three or forty two, three hundred and

2045
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: sixty four yards, three touchdowns, one interception, did have the

2046
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: touchdown run led them in rushing actually twenty nine yards,

2047
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: which was maybe makes it more impressive. They had no

2048
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 2: running game to lean on and that was non existent

2049
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 2: as Quinn Shuhn Judkins had just twenty six yards on

2050
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 2: fourteen carries. That's where we are with the Browns. They

2051
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: follow the three and ten Tennessee gets their second win

2052
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: of the year. Shador by the way completely outplayed cam

2053
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 2: ward I'm not shocked by that. I don't think anybody

2054
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 2: should be considering Cleveland's defense, m cam warden the offense

2055
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 2: making plays. Who was Tony Pollard the real star? One

2056
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one yards on the ground and two scores.

2057
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 5: Which is crazy to think about. We just talked about

2058
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 5: Cleveland last couple of weeks and how good their defense was,

2059
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 5: and for them to let Tennessee run the ball that

2060
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 5: way on them without real legitimate pass and attack is

2061
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 5: shocking to me.

2062
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: He's carry roads. I'm dan byer. The Bears have the

2063
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 2: football back They've just crossed midfield with under three minutes

2064
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: to go. They have all three other timeouts. Down by

2065
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 2: seven to the Packers twenty eight to twenty one. We'll

2066
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: tell you how they fare. Plus the Rams putting the

2067
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,919
Speaker 2: finishing touches on the Cardinals up forty five to seventeen

2068
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: with four minutes left to go. We'll bring you the

2069
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: conclusion of those games and what happens. It's all coming

2070
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: up next. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Its end

2071
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio.

2072
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 1: Back to Dan Byer and Carry Rhoads.

2073
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 3: A huge fourth down for the Chicago Bears.

2074
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,959
Speaker 2: Fourth and one on the Green Bay fourteen yard line.

2075
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams rolls to his left. Carry Caleb Williams just through.

2076
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 2: An interception as the Packers look like they will survive

2077
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 2: against the Bears twenty eight to twenty one.

2078
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 5: Well, they did what I said, Dan, all their I

2079
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 5: said the Bear shuld run a hard play action Here

2080
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 5: they did. The Packers defense was well scowled and kept

2081
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 5: their eyes on their work. Nobody I mean that fast

2082
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 5: back to the flat play has worked all year. Oh,

2083
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 5: it looks like number two was wide open more But

2084
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 5: I mean Caleb had to make a play here. He

2085
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 5: had to give himself and it team a chance. Doesn't

2086
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 5: get enough on that ball, I mean, was a little

2087
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 5: bit behind the defender, but Caleb was on the run.

2088
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 3: Couldn't get square to.

2089
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 5: Get enough inner power inertia on the ball to get

2090
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 5: over the top. But I mean, I thought it was

2091
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,759
Speaker 5: a great play call. I mean, Green Bay was gonna

2092
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 5: do everything they could to stop them run.

2093
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: But man, the Bears had a chance there.

2094
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: Keishaw Nixon was the one who picked off Caleb Williams.

2095
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Let's be Frank, complete underthrow and you're right, Dj Moore

2096
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: was missed on that play. Nobody's perfect, there's no doubt

2097
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: about that. But when you run a fourth in one play,

2098
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 2: it's on the shoulders of your quarterback and a brisk handshake.

2099
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Matt Lafort, Lafleur and Ben Johnson. Is there some stuff there? Yeah,

2100
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: I think that there's some rivalry from the past. I

2101
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 2: know that Ben Johnson made some comments as well about

2102
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 2: the division and Green Bay and in the other opponents

2103
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: in their division as well when he got the Bear's job,

2104
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: But it was quick. They meet again in a couple

2105
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: of weeks in Chicago, but in that case, when you

2106
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 2: roll out and you put everything on the shoulders of

2107
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, he has to make the right play and

2108
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift was covered, there was no room to run.

2109
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: He had dj Moore and missed him and under threw

2110
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: it to col Comet was open, yes, but he wasn't

2111
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: open when you underthrew him.

2112
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was open, but the way that Caleb was rolling,

2113
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,440
Speaker 5: he couldn't get his couldn't get his shoulders around.

2114
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 3: To make an accurate throw.

2115
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 5: But also that that's the thing about Caleb right now,

2116
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 5: and I think that's with a lot of young quarterbacks,

2117
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 5: right if you're able to take away that immediate first read,

2118
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 5: what's that back to the flat was for them? And

2119
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 5: if I mean usually in which we've seen a lot

2120
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 5: this year, that play has worked across the league. Right,

2121
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 5: So the fact that Green Bay was schooled on it

2122
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 5: and took that away. Now, when the first read isn't there,

2123
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 5: what does your quarterback do and what can can he

2124
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 5: be Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen to one of those

2125
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 5: guys that in that situation, he's going to find the

2126
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,959
Speaker 5: next guy. That's the next part of Caleb Williams evolution.

2127
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Here's What's also worth noting, at least in that last drive,

2128
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: is the Bears actually had it first down and ten

2129
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 2: at the two minute warning at the green Bay twenty

2130
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 2: three yard line. They then ran a play on first

2131
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: down that got them three yards and let the clock run.

2132
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I take that back. They got six yards

2133
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 2: after the two minute warning. The next snap that they

2134
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 2: took was a minute seventeen where they got three yards

2135
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: on third and one. The clock continued to run thirty

2136
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: five seconds left, common Ung Guy was stopped bringing up

2137
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: the fourth and one. I think the Bears felt that

2138
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 2: they were just gonna run the ball and run the

2139
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: ball into the end zone. And as all of that

2140
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 2: was happening, Carrie time was going off the clock. Yes,

2141
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 2: so even if Caleb Williams in this situation where he's

2142
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: rolling out, throws it to DJ Moore and throws it

2143
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: to him underneath Green Bay, the Bears would have the

2144
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,759
Speaker 2: ball at about the green Bay five or six yard line,

2145
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: but you would.

2146
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:26,759
Speaker 3: Maybe have.

2147
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Two or three plays left in that scenario, and I

2148
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: mean the clock. We took a time out, and I

2149
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: thought that we would be back in plenty of time

2150
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 2: to get the Bear's conclusion and when we came back

2151
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 2: because the Bears just let the clock run and nobody

2152
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: was calling timeouts, we ended up coming back on the

2153
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 2: fourth down call. But it's smart of Ben Johnson to

2154
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 2: work the clock. I just think that they may have

2155
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 2: worked it a little too much in that scenario. And

2156
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: then on fourth and one with twenty five seconds left,

2157
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: you only had so many options.

2158
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.

2159
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 5: A lot of times, Yes, you got to play, you're

2160
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 5: going for the score, You're trying to obviously get in

2161
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 5: the end zone, but you also don't want to leave

2162
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 5: any time for Jordan Love. We just saw what he

2163
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 5: did right at halftime, right it was it was like

2164
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 5: fifty some seconds left before before halftime and he takes

2165
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 5: him down for a touchdown to win the game. So

2166
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 5: we definitely want to milk the clock and score. That

2167
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 5: would be a perfect scenario. But again, I think that

2168
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 5: is one of those things, right if you have the

2169
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 5: right signal caller and you have that guy that you

2170
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 5: trust in that situation, I think that would be more

2171
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 5: ideal in what Ben Johnson was trying to do. But

2172
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams, you got to just got to go

2173
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 5: score a touchdown. It doesn't matter how much time is left,

2174
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 5: and I think that's part of the problem.

2175
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: I think that the key point in all of this

2176
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 2: is I assume Ben Johnson and the Bears would have

2177
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,799
Speaker 2: gone for two in that year area yeah, yeah, yeah,

2178
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 2: And so just being able to get the ball into

2179
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: the end zone and working the clock. They were trying

2180
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 2: to do everything, and I think that they honestly were

2181
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 2: caught off guard that Koreem Bay stopped them on third

2182
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 2: and one, because now, all of a sudden, you have

2183
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: to use the timeout and you still have to pick

2184
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 2: up a yard and instead of calling a timeout on

2185
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 2: a first down where you're like, now we've got four plays,

2186
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 2: we're going to be throwing some into the end zone,

2187
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: time's not going to be of the essence. It was

2188
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: smart for them to work the clock so that Green

2189
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 2: Bay wouldn't get the football, but ultimately I think they

2190
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 2: ended up making a rush decision, and maybe that's why

2191
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams ended up throwing into the end zone instead

2192
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 2: of just taking the dump off to It wasn't a

2193
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 2: dump off, but he was an underneath route where DJ

2194
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Moore was where maybe more scores on it. I'm not sure.

2195
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: Maybe Caleb just didn't see him, but it seemed that

2196
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: Caleb may have pressed on that last throw.

2197
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, Caleb definitely didn't see him, but he has to

2198
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 5: know where his outlet is and that was his outlet.

2199
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: Right.

2200
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 5: So in that progression of what that play was.

2201
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 3: A hard play action heart fake on the run fake.

2202
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 5: You want to get the back that you're faking two

2203
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 5: out to the flat obviously thinking that you're going to

2204
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 5: be a man and man coverage and he's going to

2205
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 5: take a step up trying to stop the run. He's

2206
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 5: going to get beat to the flat. Like that's the idea,

2207
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 5: all right. If that's taken away, like Ben Johnson before

2208
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 5: that play even happens, should be telling Caleb Williams, if

2209
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 5: that's taken away, your next read is the over route

2210
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 5: by DJ Moore.

2211
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 2: Right.

2212
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 5: You always want to bring when your quarterbacks on the move,

2213
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 5: you want to bring a receiver to that in his

2214
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 5: window so he can see them with the vision. The

2215
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 5: fact that he's rolling out and he's feeling like he's

2216
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 5: under pressure and now he turns away from that, Like,

2217
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 5: if you're coming here and you got your shoulders square

2218
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 5: to that outlet, the next read, if that's covered, which

2219
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 5: we saw in real time. It was covered right away.

2220
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams should be turning right back to look at

2221
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 5: that one, sure and he you know, if Ben Johnson

2222
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 5: was talking to us after this game, I'm sure he

2223
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 5: would talk about that being the next option.

2224
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 2: The other point of this is the way that they

2225
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 2: ran the play action. Is Caleb Williams is rolling opposite,

2226
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 2: is you know, thrown across the body?

2227
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 3: Yes, and so in that instance, maybe.

2228
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: That's why you get a bit of an underthrow on

2229
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 2: the pass.

2230
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 3: Yes, where normally you would see it.

2231
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: And if a quarterback was rolling out, a right handed

2232
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 2: quarterback rolling out to his right, it's more natural to

2233
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 2: throw back across your body that way because your momentum

2234
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 2: is taking you that way, as opposed to what Williams did.

2235
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 2: I think that also is why point the ball was underthrown.

2236
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: As it stands now, the Bears fall to the seventh spot.

2237
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 3: They balled a seven.

2238
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this thing is volatile. It is because

2239
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 2: Green Bay with the win, jumps up. They're nine to

2240
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: three and one. The Bears are nine to four. Right now,

2241
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers would have a tie break over

2242
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 2: them the Bears. And by the way, the Niners and

2243
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 2: Bears play later on in this regular season, so that.

2244
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 3: Game is going to have a lot at stake. Now's

2245
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 3: what we talked about earlier.

2246
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 5: Dan I said, we thought coming into this season, well,

2247
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 5: last season, that division got three teams in, and I

2248
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 5: said early in this show that it might only be one.

2249
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's a lot of time left with.

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01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 5: Detroit and Chicago, they're gonna be fighting probably for their

2251
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 5: last spot. And if they don't, if one of them

2252
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 5: go on a losing streak here, and it's gonna be

2253
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 5: tough for both of those guys.

2254
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 2: So the Bears have Shador Sanders in the Browns next week.

2255
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 2: That should be a winnable game for them. Then they

2256
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 2: finished with green Bay home against green Bay at San

2257
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Francisco week seventeen, home against the Lions in eighteen.

2258
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 3: So it might be ten and seven. They might be

2259
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 3: like Seattle last year.

2260
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 2: It's why their playoff possibility is where it is. Sixty

2261
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,440
Speaker 2: three percent was the playoff percentage for the Bears.

2262
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Coming into this game.

2263
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, where it says curl right now, sixty three percent.

2264
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 3: It was seventy five coming into this game, Okay, got

2265
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 3: so it drops to sixty three.

2266
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 2: The Lions playoff percentage according to NFL dot Com is

2267
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 2: fifty four percent, So there's there's just a game that

2268
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 2: separates the two. Lions have the tiebreaker right now because

2269
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 2: they beat them in Detroit early on in the season.

2270
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 2: I believe that was week maybe week two or three.

2271
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: I think it was week two because the Lions are

2272
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 2: coming back off their loss from Green Bay. But a

2273
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 2: Week eighteen matchup that could be the Sunday nighter if

2274
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 2: the playoff berth is on the line, depending on how

2275
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: things go.

2276
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 5: Where did they play the first game then? Was it

2277
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 5: SUSA Chicago or the Bears?

2278
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: And the first game between the Lions and Bears was

2279
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: in Detroit, So the week eighteen matchup game is in Chicago.

2280
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 2: That's probably going to be your Sunday night er if

2281
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 2: everything holds. But the Lions have a tough slate coming up.

2282
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 2: You mentioned they got to go to LA and face

2283
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 2: the Rams coming up in week fifteen.

2284
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 3: He is Carrie Rhodes, I'm Dan Byer.

2285
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 2: Let's go to the news desk, Monci Belanos giving us

2286
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 2: all the scores and highlights from a busy day. What's

2287
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: going on, Manzi?

2288
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 12: I feel like I just played a football game. I'm

2289
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 12: so drained from all of these games today because there

2290
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 12: were so many close ones, especially the Bears and the Packers.

2291
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 12: So I feel like I just played a game, like

2292
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 12: I'm drained.

2293
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Now, how many yards did you have today?

2294
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 11: We'll say zero. We'll say salt, you know.

2295
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:03,879
Speaker 3: Not negative.

2296
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 11: I'm not in the negative. I am just We'll just

2297
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 11: say zero. You're a here or miss I was a.

2298
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Mean Montie had some fantasy strain. I know, did you

2299
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 3: end up getting in? Did it?

2300
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 5: So?

2301
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2302
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I haven't looked. I haven't looked because I'm scared.

2303
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 12: I'm scared, but I think there's another way I can

2304
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 12: also sneak in, you know what I'm saying.

2305
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 11: But I haven't looked. There's one league where I need

2306
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 11: other people to lose in order for me to get

2307
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 11: into the playoffs. But I'm right there.

2308
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm right there.

2309
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 12: I'm in the hunts. We don't like that, No, we don't.

2310
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 12: I'm in the hunt, you know what I'm saying. I'm

2311
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 12: like the Chiefs and the Ravens right now, I'm in

2312
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 12: the hunt. Right The Broncos outscored the Raiders twenty four

2313
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 12: to seventeen. Denver is the number one seed in the

2314
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 12: eight f seed. They would have the tiebreaker over the Patriots.

2315
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 12: They've also won ten in a row. Bo Nicks did

2316
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 12: not throw a touchdown pass, but it didn't matter. He

2317
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 12: was thirty thirty one of thirty eight for two hundred

2318
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 12: and twelve yards. The Rams are the number one seed

2319
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 12: in the NFC. They crushed the Cardinals forty five to seventeen.

2320
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 12: The final score seven catches, one hundred and sixty seven

2321
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 12: yards and two touchdowns. The Packers survived twenty eight to

2322
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 12: twenty one against the Bears. Caleb Williams through one interception

2323
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 12: and it came in their final possession as they try

2324
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 12: to tie the game, but he threw an interception in

2325
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 12: the end zone. Jordan Love threw for two hundred and

2326
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 12: thirty four yards, three touchdowns and an interception, but that

2327
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 12: happened earlier in the game. Caleb Williams threw for one

2328
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,520
Speaker 12: hundred and eighty six yards, two touchdowns and an interception.

2329
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 12: The teams that were officially eliminated from the playoffs after

2330
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 12: the games for today, Commanders, Jets, Falcons, and Browns. The

2331
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 12: Browns lost to the Titans today thirty one to twenty nine.

2332
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 12: The Vikings crushed the Commanders thirty one zero JJ McCarthy

2333
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 12: in this one, sixteen of twenty three, one hundred and

2334
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 12: sixty three yards and three touchdowns. The Dolphins rolled past

2335
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 12: the Jets thirty four to ten. Yeah, Miami is still alive.

2336
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 12: The Saints had the upset of the day, defeating the

2337
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 12: Buccaneers in Tampa on a rainy day twenty four to twenty.

2338
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 12: Steelers hung on twenty seven to twenty four against the Ravens.

2339
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 12: They have sole possession of the AFC North right now.

2340
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 12: In the AFC South, the Jaguars Crews passed the Colts

2341
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 12: thirty six to nineteen, so Jacksonville is at the top

2342
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 12: right now, and the Colts lost Daniel Jones to an

2343
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 12: achilles injury in this one. The Bill survived thirty nine

2344
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 12: to thirty four against the Bengals, so Buffalo is now

2345
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 12: nine and four. The Seahawks improved to ten and three.

2346
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 12: They outscored the Falcons thirty seven to nine. When it

2347
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 12: comes to the college football playoff picture, while Notre Dame

2348
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 12: was not put.

2349
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 11: In in, neither was BYU.

2350
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 12: Alabama did get in, but Notre Dame announced that they

2351
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 12: withdrawn their name from consideration for a bowl game. Also

2352
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 12: the same thing with Iowa State and Kansas State.

2353
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 11: When it comes to the NBA. Lebron James is playing

2354
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 11: tonight for the Lakers. They take on the seventy six

2355
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 11: ers at seven thirty Eastern time.

2356
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 12: Right now, the Warriors lead the Bulls thirty eight to

2357
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 12: twenty five after the first quarter.

2358
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 11: Jamal Murray has thirty points and the Nuggets.

2359
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 12: Lead the Hornets seventy nine to seventy two, and they're

2360
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 12: still late in the third quarter.

2361
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Thank you very much, Jim Monzi.

2362
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 3: Safe travels, be big apple.

2363
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 11: I'll be back before you know it.

2364
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 2: Yes you will. I know you can pack. It's oh no,

2365
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 2: it's still unpacked, as Monsei.

2366
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 11: I just don't know what to take because it's gonna

2367
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 11: be cold.

2368
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 3: Just take layers, that's all I'll say.

2369
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 4: Layers.

2370
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 2: That's layers.

2371
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 11: That's layers.

2372
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what it is. Throw it in.

2373
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:11,719
Speaker 11: A suitcase, all right, That's what I'm packing. She's thrown.

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01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: All right. Save travels to Manzi Blogos. Shit her up

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01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 2: at Manzi Bolanos. We'll talk to her in week fifteen.

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 2: He is carry roads. I'm dan Byer. I don't know

2377
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 2: if we have the final call from the Raiders or

2378
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Broncos game. If we do, just let me know. But

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01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 2: I want to show Carry Roads a picture. And I

2380
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 2: know this doesn't translate if you're driving in your car,

2381
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 2: you're listening on your phone, you're listening in the iHeartRadio app,

2382
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. But I'm showing Carry Roads

2383
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 2: a picture of a Legiance stadium and what do you see?

2384
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 2: A lot of There's a lot of orange, a lot.

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01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 3: Is that what I'm looking at?

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01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, this was taken from the Mile High Profit.

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01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 2: All I did was search Broncos fans allegiant. That's what

2388
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 2: I That's what I searched, and that was a picture

2389
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,759
Speaker 2: of what happened with the Raiders Broncos game with tons

2390
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: of Broncos fans there in Las Vegas today.

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01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 3: This is what happened. We don't have the highlight.

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01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll and the Raiders were down ten and chose

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01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: to kick a forty six yard field goal with five

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01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 2: seconds left, which allowed the Raiders to cover the spread

2395
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 2: at whatever number you were to the desire. It was

2396
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 2: more than a touchdown, it was less than ten, right,

2397
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 2: So whatever number you got it at at that point,

2398
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 2: there were so many games. We had Packers Bears. Today,

2399
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: we had Bill's Bengals, we had Steelers Ravens, Colt's Jaguar,

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01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 2: so many playoff implications, division implications. The biggest takeaway, even

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01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: with awful calls made in Baltimore, maybe that an NFL

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01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,799
Speaker 2: head coach kicked the field goal.

2403
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:50,480
Speaker 3: To make sure.

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 2: That the opposing fans that took over his stadium did

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 2: not win their bets. Yes, that is exactly what happened

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,440
Speaker 2: in Week fourteen. There is no way that Daniel Carlson

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01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: was going to kick a field goal so fast Carrie

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01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 2: that it would make it through the uprights in record setting.

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01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 3: Time and then allow them to kick an on.

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01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: Side kick and recover that in record setting time and

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01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 2: still have an opportunity to bring out a team and

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01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 2: throw a Hail Mary and win the football game. They

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01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 2: had no chance at winning. They were down ten. They

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01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 2: had no reason to kick a field goal in that

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01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 2: scenario except to ruin the bets of all the fans

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01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: that were Denver Broncos fans that likely bet on their

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01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 2: team and overtook Allegiant Stadium. To me, it is the

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01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 2: biggest story because of how prevalent gambling has become in

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01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 2: our world.

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01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 3: And now we have a team in Las Vegas, so.

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01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: When fans come to Las Vegas, they're going to bet

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01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 2: on their team. And Pete Carroll said, you know what,

2423
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 2: I know we stink. I know we're awful, and we

2424
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 2: just lost our starting quarterback and we fired sixty seven

2425
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 2: percent of our coordinators. I'm gonna make your afternoon miserable,

2426
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 2: all of your bets wiped out.

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01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 3: Take that no way.

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01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 5: To justify any other There's no other way to justify it.

2429
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you just showed me to picture a

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01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 5: lot of orange in the stands, and if that was

2431
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 5: like in the last few seconds, that would be great, Dan,

2432
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 5: Like it.

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01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 3: Would really really encapsulated all.

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01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 5: If that was like in the last thirty seconds or so,

2435
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 5: and you're sitting there, you get to see that. Because

2436
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 5: we're not there, we don't know exactly how the building,

2437
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 5: the buzz is or what's happening in there, So that

2438
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 5: picture actually says a lot. And the fact that he

2439
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 5: kicked the field goal with four seconds left in the game,

2440
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 5: in the meaningless game, just take a knee and go home, Like,

2441
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 5: what other reason are you doing that? But to make

2442
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 5: those people miserable, throw one up into the end zone.

2443
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 2: That part, you could do it, you do whatever, But

2444
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 2: to take points to say we're not going to lose

2445
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 2: by ten, We're going to lose by seven. It had

2446
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 2: nothing to do with them getting closer in a loss.

2447
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 2: It had everything to do with ruining the bets of

2448
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Broncos fans that took over their stands.

2449
01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 5: That's no, yeah, that there's no no other reasons for it, Dan,

2450
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 5: that's it just doesn't make any sense.

2451
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 2: I know college football coaches know what the spread is,

2452
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 2: and this is something we alluded to earlier. Yeah, boosters

2453
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: will bet on your team. If you're favorite to win

2454
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 2: by thirty five, coach, just make sure you cover the

2455
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 2: thirty five. Coaches know that stuff. They know when they're

2456
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 2: favored by twenty one. They say they don't, they absolutely do,

2457
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 2: especially in the college game. Yeah, but now with everything

2458
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 2: the way that it is, I'm sure Pete Carroll said

2459
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 2: Denver's coming in. We played them to a ten to

2460
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: seven game earlier this week. Guess what, they're a now

2461
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 2: an eight point favorite to us. They're seven and a

2462
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 2: half point favorite to us. You really think like they

2463
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 2: know what the line is they know what the spread is.

2464
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 2: That's why he did it. You cannot convince me otherwise.

2465
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 2: He saw those he's chewing that gum on the sidelines,

2466
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 2: and he's looking at the fans that stuck around because

2467
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: they were Broncos fans. The Raiders fans had no reason

2468
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: to stick around, and he's chewing his gum and he

2469
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 2: chose to kick a field goal because of that. And

2470
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest story from Week fourteen, considering

2471
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 2: all of this stuff that we had on we actually

2472
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 2: had an NFL head coach that took a gambling outcome

2473
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: into consideration to shove it down the throats of Broncos

2474
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: fans even in defeat.

2475
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 3: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer, are Week.

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01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 2: Fourteen MVPs and Kerry likes the Texans tonight. How do

2477
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 2: they get it done against the Chiefs? He'll tell us

2478
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: next year on Fox Sports Radio.

2479
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: Back to Dan Byer and Carry Rhoades.

2480
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 3: You can excel.

2481
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Week fourteen almost done, except if you're a Chiefs. They're

2482
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 2: Texans fans ending with the Eagles and Chargers, those two

2483
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 2: games still coming up. Bears Packers got off to a

2484
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 2: slow start green Bay with some fireworks at the end

2485
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: of the first half. But the Bears not only hung tough.

2486
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 2: I think you could say for a while the Bears

2487
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 2: were the better team in that second half. But green

2488
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 2: Bay made plays. The Josh Jacobs run on the third

2489
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: and one. Yes, they got in something that the Bears

2490
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 2: could not do on their ensuing possession that could have

2491
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 2: given them the lead.

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01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 5: And that's a great point, Dan, because we talk about

2493
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 5: like having execute, and we talk about coaches and we

2494
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 5: have putting their players in the position to make the plays,

2495
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 5: and I think the Bears did that today. They just

2496
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 5: didn't make enough plays to win.

2497
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's no moral victories for the Bears, especially

2498
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 2: when you're nine to three and it's there for you

2499
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 2: like they're now. You're all for positioning, but green Bay

2500
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 2: is not the tougher team. I think that there are

2501
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 2: people who still question whether the Bears are tough. I

2502
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 2: think they look at the glitz and the flashiness and

2503
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 2: the trick plays that Ben Johnson runs, but like they did,

2504
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 2: or like he did in Detroit, when you have the

2505
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 2: thunder and lightning combination of a swift and manung guy,

2506
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: which compares to Jimmy or Gibbs and David Montgomery.

2507
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 3: You can do a lot of damage and if KILEB.

2508
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 2: Williams just holds up his end of the bargain like

2509
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Jared Goff did in Detroit, they're dangerous. But they've shown

2510
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks. Last week against Philadelphia,

2511
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: both guys were over one hundred yards rushing. They showed

2512
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 2: they could be the tougher team. Yeah, it's not a fluke,

2513
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 2: that's same.

2514
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 5: It is tough and they're taking on the mindset of

2515
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 5: their co That's always a good sign to see early

2516
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 5: on and a coach's tenure.

2517
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 2: I think you have two teams that are playing tonight

2518
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 2: that also taken on the mindset of their coaches, both

2519
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 2: in Houston and Kansas City. We'll get Carrie's breakdown of

2520
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 2: that after we get our Week fourteen MVPs.

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Speaker 1: J On bod this is Fox Sports and Zone Radio.

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Speaker 16: M sure most valuable plays, don't Cowboys and Lions to

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01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 16: give it to JAMR Clutting outside got a blocker down

2524
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 16: at a tent to the pint to the end zone.

2525
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 3: Wave to him, he's.

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01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Gone baby, touch down. Detroit Lions ninety seven point one.

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01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 7: The Ticket Lions Radio Network commanders and Vikings McCarthy back

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01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 7: to pass basketball right HOTDJ Commanders touchdown.

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Speaker 10: What on top guy touchdown?

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01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:53,879
Speaker 7: Kf AN one hundred point three FLF Vikings Radio Network.

2531
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks at Belcons. Robinson stays in.

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01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 7: The backfield to hand off left side, and he's gonna

2533
01:55:58,680 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 7: fumble the football.

2534
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 13: The Seahawks pick it up Witherspoon just near.

2535
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: The ten yard line. The Seahawks shave the day. The

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: defense does once again. Seahawks Radio Network angles it field.

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01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 9: Bedford gets away for barrel thirty twenty ten five.

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01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 7: Your AFC defensive Player of the week has got it

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01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 7: again WUGR five fifty Bills Radio Network. Titans and Browns.

2540
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 3: Cam loups left throws to the inZone head.

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: That is a Titan touchdown.

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01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 5: Kay ship d K with the.

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Speaker 7: Touchdowns catch WGFX one oh four to five Titans Radio

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01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 7: Network two.

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 13: Point conversion to tie back to Quinn shot. He's gonna

2546
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 13: fake the reverse. He's got it and now we may throw. No,

2547
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 13: he reverses field. Now he throws it back all the

2548
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 13: other way to the other side and it's in complete.

2549
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh my, what was that?

2550
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 3: You got?

2551
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 9: Your door playing so well leads you down the field. Twice,

2552
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 9: and you turn it into a gimmick.

2553
01:56:56,400 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 7: Play Browns Radio Network, Dolphins and Chats.

2554
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 6: Page ten web side right, you get a round the

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Speaker 6: clocks a back get.

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Speaker 7: Dead by tuck fout Dolphins, Fox Sports nine forty Dolphins

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Speaker 7: Radio Network, Saints It Buccaneers.

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Speaker 14: Shuck takes down on the shotgown here and got some

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 14: pressures in trouble escapes it and now he does escape.

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01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 9: At twenty fifteen ten, Shock is gonna get his second.

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01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 7: Rushing touts down WWL Saints Radio Network, Cold sid Jaguars

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Speaker 7: inside hand.

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01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 4: Office is traves Eta twenty five twenty fifteen.

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01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 14: Dead five hold the right sideline.

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01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 13: Clicked down, TEPA fifty added twenty eight yard.

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Speaker 7: Doutdown run and Jacksonville ten ten xcel at ninety two

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Speaker 7: point five FM, Jaguars Radio Network, Steelers and Ravens.

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Speaker 16: Rogers and the shotgun gets a snap back to pass

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 16: roaster Warner the.

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Speaker 7: Right flot wide open, scooting down the right sideline heads room.

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01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 1: There is nobody there, and he's in for the score.

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01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 7: WD one O two five FM Steelers Radio Network, Broncos.

2573
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 2: And Raiders driving kick mimes on a gallop from the

2574
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 2: forty eighth Marvin in trouble steps out of a tackle

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01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 2: and here we go.

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01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:01,839
Speaker 3: Marvins Jos ploys.

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01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 7: Draw Raider down the sideline twenty fifteen ten five touchdown

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01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 7: down KOA eight to fifty am at ninety four one

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 7: f M, Broncos Radio Network, Rams and Cardinals at the five.

2580
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 4: On one play on thirty.

2581
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 7: One yard strike RAMS Radio Network, Bears and Packers fourth.

2582
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 1: And one Chicago.

2583
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 5: Thank the swift boog legging let Williams looking to floats

2584
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 5: the ends on the.

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Speaker 14: Tenor step concept run our sception by.

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Speaker 1: K Shan Nets and pmzo Is Yar Dagger ninety.

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Speaker 7: Seven three the game WRNW, Packers Radio Network, the most

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Speaker 7: valuable plays.

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Speaker 1: Goble for everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: A huge thanks to Ricky Herrera who puts that together

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Speaker 2: each week for us here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Manzi belag Yo, Shay Mulgan Guard and Mary Mack

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Speaker 2: who are always here for us, and Chris Purfett, wh

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Speaker 2: left a little bit earlier. Tonight. We've got the Texans

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Speaker 2: and Chiefs carry at Arrowhead Texans, Chiefs outside looking in

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Speaker 2: on the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Texans.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a few more routes because of the division still

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Speaker 2: possibly could be in play for them. But how do

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Speaker 2: you think it plays out tonight in Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: I think Will Anderson and those guys on that defensive

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Speaker 5: front is going to put all kinds of pressure on

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Speaker 5: Kansas City today. So if I'm Kansas City, They're gonna

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Speaker 5: have to be a little bit patient, and they're going

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Speaker 5: to have to play the long game here, and they're

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Speaker 5: going to have to execute at a high level, and

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Speaker 5: I just don't think they're going to be able to

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Speaker 5: do that for the full game. And I think the

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Speaker 5: Texans offense will put up enough points to win this game.

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Speaker 5: So I see Houston going into the arrowhead and really

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Speaker 5: making it really tough on the Chiefs to move on.

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Speaker 2: Here, we talked about playoff probability. If the Texans win tonight,

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Speaker 2: eighty six percent chance they make the postseason. They would

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Speaker 2: have tie breaker over the Chiefs with the win if

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Speaker 2: there was if it came down to it. Beat the

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Speaker 2: Ravens earlier this season, so if the Ravens is a

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Speaker 2: wild card, they would have that tie breaker. But right now,

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Speaker 2: sixty three percent eighty six percent if the Texans win.

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Speaker 2: If the Chiefs win tonight's still at fifty four percent.

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Speaker 2: There's still some work to do, but Colts are slipping

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Speaker 2: down as we said, and the Chargers still have a

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Speaker 2: game to play. So with all said and done here

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Speaker 2: in the final thirty seconds or so, biggest outcome or

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Speaker 2: result from today was what in week fourteen?

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest one obviously the Steelers and the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: People are going to say that, but I think it's

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars and the Colts, but the Colts moving, losing, losing,

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones's that's a big one.

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Speaker 2: When we want to count out the Jaguars, and granted

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Speaker 2: the injury hurt the Colts, Jacksonville has come through most

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Speaker 2: of the time. They're sitting there at nine and four,

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Speaker 2: maybe the worst nine to four team in the NFL

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Speaker 2: that we've ever seen. I say that jokingly, but they've

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Speaker 2: got some huge wins and another big one today.

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Speaker 5: Unless I've play the Cardinals, these carry roads, I'm Dan Beyer.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are going to rue the day that the

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Speaker 2: referees did not count that ASAA likely touchdown. That's going

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Speaker 2: to stick with them. Enjoy the games tonight and talk

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Speaker 2: to you next week.