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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, then, welcome to the No Dungks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, June seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Skeetz here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 2: Will play a little true or false later in today's pod,

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Speaker 2: but we start with the Game five recap. The Thunder

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Speaker 2: one win away from a title. Led by Jalen Williams

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Speaker 2: career playoff high forty points, OKC earn the one twenty

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Speaker 2: to one oh nine win against the Pacers. In Game five.

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Speaker 2: OKC has a three to two lead here in the series.

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Speaker 2: We go back to Indianapolis for Game six later in

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Speaker 2: the week on Thursday, and this is the first time

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Speaker 2: Tray that the Pacers have lost back to back games

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Speaker 2: in these playoffs. But they made it a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got back into it. But where do you want to

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Speaker 2: start from? OKC taking game five?

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Speaker 5: How can we not start with Jadab forty points, six rebounds,

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Speaker 5: four assists, and a steel. I think they showed the

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Speaker 5: graphic of his makes in the first half at halftime,

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Speaker 5: and it was like the cool animated graphic where you

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Speaker 5: see all the shots he made, and that's why I

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Speaker 5: was like, wait a second, all of these have been

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Speaker 5: layups or dunks. It felt like he was in the

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Speaker 5: paint all night. Turns out he went nine of sixteen

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Speaker 5: at the remedy really got started with back cuts running

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Speaker 5: in transition. Hartenstein was finding him for a couple of

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Speaker 5: lost track of him. Tough game, I think for Aaron

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Speaker 5: Neismith in this one, he's on the receiving end of

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Speaker 5: a lot of these highlights. But Jadab was just special

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Speaker 5: in this game. After he was able to get kind

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Speaker 5: of unleashed in transition, that's when he got into the

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Speaker 5: dribble drive game. That's when he got into the step

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Speaker 5: back jumper game, had that beautiful twisting one over Ni Smith.

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 5: Just an incredible performance by this guy to really bring

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Speaker 5: it when the Thunder needed it. He's got a lot

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Speaker 5: of Scottie Pippen in his game. He's got the size

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Speaker 5: and the versatility on defense, but I think even offensively

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Speaker 5: he plays a lot like Pippen does running in transition.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of been the point guard for the Thunder

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Speaker 5: the past couple of games. Here get into the rim

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Speaker 5: and finishing. I'm including his high off the glass layup

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Speaker 5: as a Scottie Pippen move back. When I was young

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Speaker 5: would work on shooting Scottie Pippen layups higher than the

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Speaker 5: You saw that from JDub last night in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: So I'm hoping Andrew Schleck's kids are out in the

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Speaker 6: Like Jalen Williams, like Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 5: This was a great performance by the Thunder, Like you're saying,

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Speaker 5: the Pacers really got back into it in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 6: Siakam hit that three.

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Speaker 5: It's a two point g and that was the TSN

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Speaker 5: for the Pacers, and the thunder slammed the door shut

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Speaker 5: and now they're on the verge of a championship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hilarious hearing Jalen Williams asked after the game, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Just kind of gave a face like, what it was

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel that way, I guess until those four turnovers,

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Speaker 1: that's all they were. And three of them of three

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Speaker 1: a hustling Jayalen Williams just cutting. I mean the first one,

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Speaker 1: before the series, skeets, it was a thirty point game coming.

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Speaker 1: You thought it was coming. Did you know a forty

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think I would have bet on that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I felt confident about him and clipsing thirty at least once.

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Speaker 2: like you guys just went through. He scored in every

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Speaker 4: Get that pretty fade away at the nail. That was

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Speaker 2: Hit his threes, the silky scoop shots, these Pippin like shots,

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Speaker 2: three starting to show up. It's like, it's very difficult.

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Speaker 2: But you just see like that second banana, second guy,

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Speaker 2: even if you look back at the last couple of championships,

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Speaker 2: course you go back in history and you're talking Pippin

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Speaker 2: to you know, Jordan, like that's what Shay is in

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Speaker 2: this So just what a game? This guy was awesome

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Speaker 2: and he's only getting better and better. This is I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I know I'm getting ahead of myself. They still got

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Speaker 2: to win one more, but this big three because I

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Speaker 2: know we'll talk about Chet Hongrin two, like good luck

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Speaker 2: with this because like maybe Shade, I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: of it, like, Okay is shay at? I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's Shay add of the one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 2: peak of his game. He's like in is prime here

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Speaker 2: now he's he almost maxed out? Can you get another level?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Play making has gotten better and all that, but look

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Speaker 2: he's like there, he's at the elite level. He's an

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Speaker 2: MVP for cry A Loud. But what about Jadub and

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Speaker 2: what about Chet? And I'm like, oh, they could both

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Speaker 2: get better? Chet more than I think Jadub even, but

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Speaker 2: they're still there's still room for improvement.

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Speaker 4: Is my whole point scary.

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Speaker 1: Big three, there's no doubt. And you look at that

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Speaker 1: forty point box scoring, you say, well, he kind of

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Speaker 1: just took it all out of himself. But he was

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Speaker 1: making beautiful cuts and just making the right thing, the

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Speaker 1: right play. The whole first half again, every single one

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Speaker 1: then the skill set came over and he was doing

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Speaker 1: that was so smart for Dagna and it just preserved

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Speaker 1: Shay for as the game went on. But when Shay

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Speaker 1: pacers were scrambling a little bit, he took it every

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Speaker 3: So the drag guy dropped thirty points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, Shay had thirty one points, ten assists,

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Speaker 2: He blocked four shots and then had a pair of

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Speaker 2: The thunderclap there, he got one on both I think

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Speaker 2: pretty damn good too. An MVP performance from him, but

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Speaker 2: he had Pippin, you know, out playing That happened from

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Speaker 2: time to time in finals or playoff games, not all

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Speaker 2: the ninety one NBA Finals when they closed out the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Pippin had a monster Game five, a bit better than

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Speaker 2: of defensive places. Yeah, like seriously, and that's what Jade did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, except for the Bulls were beloved.

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Speaker 6: Just saying I did layer.

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Speaker 5: Richard Jefferson comparing Jadub and Shay last night to Lebron

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Speaker 5: I thought it was pretty cool to see the change

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Speaker 5: up in the fourth quarter. It was Jadub as the

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Speaker 6: Down the stretch. Dagna flip things.

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Speaker 5: We saw in game four, it was Shae setting screens

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Speaker 5: for Jalen Williams to try and get Nie Smith to

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Speaker 5: switch so that Shae could attack him. On this one,

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Speaker 5: it was Jadab setting screens for SGA and then when

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Speaker 5: to Jalen Williams. Things are a little bit scrambled for

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Speaker 5: the Pacers. He's able to get downhill. That was just

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Speaker 5: man game with Jadub handling. So let's flip it and

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Speaker 5: let Shaye get downhill, let him make plays.

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Speaker 6: Tenn assist was really big.

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Speaker 5: And then, like you're saying, the defensive playmaking as well

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Speaker 5: was key for this team. The game was one on

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Speaker 5: the defensive end for the Thunder. I mean, incredible performances,

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Speaker 5: no doubt from Jadab and Sga, but twenty three turnovers

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Speaker 5: it was like twenty turnovers in the first half and

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Speaker 4: This was one of the other nine hundred ninety.

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Speaker 4: But that to me, it was like, oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching this first quarter, I thought there's no chance

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Speaker 2: A rebound highlight, which one I thought Hartenstein's one handed rebound, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Held his one arm was yeah, I still got it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they called the foul on whoever was

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Speaker 4: But everybody contributed to Yeah, yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Haliburton. Obviously a bad game. Four points,

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Speaker 2: He missed all six of his field goal attempts. Now

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Speaker 2: say that, even that sore right calf. They were showing

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Speaker 2: then TJ. McConnell stepped up in the third quarter thirteen

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Speaker 2: But then interesting decision, I thought, Trey from Carlisle, where

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Speaker 2: And it was soon after that, or maybe right after that,

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Speaker 2: Carlos sort of took him out and he said, I thought.

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Speaker 4: He was just gas. He was fatigued.

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Speaker 2: But now you sit and we play, you know, Tuesday

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Speaker 2: morning quarterbacking here. Should he have maybe run with a

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Speaker 2: fatigued McConnell over an injured Halliburton And does he regret

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Speaker 2: that decision here this morning?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting that you say he should have gone in

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Speaker 5: tough thing. It's like, go to TJ McConnell sub in

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Speaker 5: for He did carry the team in the third quarter.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's another player in the league who

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Speaker 5: mccon That's awesome to see. The spin move was beautiful,

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Speaker 5: But Nemhar didn't play a great game. Seven points on

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Speaker 5: three of eight shooting, had more turnovers than assists. Obviously

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Speaker 5: Haliburton was hampered, plus the thunder defense was all over

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Mathren wasn't doing anything in the fourth quarter either.

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Speaker 5: So I know they want nem Hard out there for defense,

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Speaker 5: he wasn't really doing much defensively. They want Haliburton out

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Speaker 5: there for offense. He wasn't doing anything offensively, so what

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Speaker 5: do you who are you pulling? There is kind of

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Speaker 5: I think in the fourth quarter, just because he's given

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he checked out like at the ten

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Speaker 2: fifty mark in the fourth and didn't We didn't see

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Speaker 2: too long. That's a good point about him maybe playing

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Speaker 2: Nemhard game, Like some of those turnovers. Now, that's like

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Speaker 4: But that's I mean, this electric defense just oup out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some guys were able to recover after those turnovers,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. He had six turnovers overall, but

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Speaker 1: they kept on turning it over, but to see twenty

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Speaker 4: It really was.

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Speaker 2: It was impossible not to be watching and going, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, how how they've been completely outplayed in this

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Speaker 1: Here they go again, and some shots are just like

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Speaker 3: They keep relying on him. He keeps on performing.

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Speaker 1: But he had some rattlers in this one one to

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Speaker 1: five from three that just rattled in and out. A

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Speaker 3: Two of eleven.

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Speaker 1: Nick Anderson, yeah, the one good game.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: Also, Nick Anderson missed a whole bunch of free throws

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Speaker 6: It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say for Game five for him,

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Speaker 2: so he at least contributed there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, really, like, besides Siakam and TJ McConnell, tell me

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Speaker 4: Good game for the Pacers. I mean, it wasn't.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't Haliburton Obi is probably like the third best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't even lights out, So yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 3: I mean, he contributed as much as he could.

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Speaker 1: But the offensive rebounds you mentioned that was really important

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Speaker 5: And they got out offensive rebounded is the problem? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Chat was pretty big as well, like lou Dort was

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Speaker 5: like that's a perfect recipe for the Thunder, especially if

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what did you think about Halliburton, Because the

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Speaker 4: Do you just sit them down and rest up for

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Speaker 2: And obviously we did see TJ McConnell a little earlier

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Speaker 4: Then that was incredible. Looked like a brilliant move from

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Speaker 2: But then he went away from him, Like, what was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Halliburton had missed some opportunities to get

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Speaker 3: I mean in a lot of space.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was the opportunity to go left right,

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Speaker 1: two when they said it's lower leg, I thought, that's.

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Speaker 3: That's below the knee. Right.

437
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Speaker 6: I couldn't.

438
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Speaker 3: I couldn't settle lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but it's great to see that.

440
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Speaker 1: As far as the halftime conversation goes from ESPN, I

441
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Speaker 1: like molikly Andrews the best stephen A Smith said he's

442
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Speaker 1: got to sit and rest Game six and she said

443
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Speaker 1: this is game five.

444
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Speaker 3: Deba Finals. I don't think he's sitting stephen A. Smith.

445
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Speaker 6: He's got to rest game six.

446
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.

447
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Speaker 2: You said he was saying he needs to rest for

448
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Speaker 2: the four ghalf of game five for game six.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that makes no I mean Haliburton.

450
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Speaker 2: After the game says basically what she was saying, it's

451
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Speaker 2: the Finals. I've worked my whole life to be here,

452
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Speaker 2: and I want to be out there to compete, help

453
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Speaker 2: my teammates anyway I can. I was not great tonight

454
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Speaker 2: by any means, but it's not really a thought of

455
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Speaker 2: mine to not play here. If I can walk, then

456
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Speaker 2: I want to play. I mean, this is what Halibert said,

457
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Speaker 2: end quote on that. Now now people say, well, yeah,

458
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 2: of course, all players, all competitive guys are gonna say

459
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Speaker 2: that it's up to the coaching and the medical staff

460
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Speaker 2: and maybe you do save him from himself.

461
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Speaker 4: There was worry that he could reinjure it, make it worse.

462
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Speaker 2: I mean we saw that once upon a time with

463
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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant back in the day, So there was that concern.

464
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Speaker 2: I thought when he was out there, though it wasn't

465
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Speaker 2: like oh glaring that he was like dragging his leg around.

466
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Speaker 2: I also think the guy's just in the Dortu chamber

467
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Speaker 2: right now, and that sucks. And then now you have

468
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Speaker 2: an injury on top of that. Good luck, because Dort

469
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Speaker 2: has shut down every guy here in this postseason. Desmond Baine,

470
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Speaker 2: who just got traded. Go check his stats in round one.

471
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Speaker 2: He did dick all against Dort Dor, had a good

472
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Speaker 2: series against Jamal, good series against Anthea Edwards, and he's

473
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Speaker 2: having a great series against Halibert, but hopefully having what

474
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Speaker 2: do we got here? Like, I don't know, it's like

475
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Speaker 2: under sixty hours. I guess until Game six that he

476
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Speaker 2: can rest up a bit Trey and and give it

477
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Speaker 2: a little bit more of a go in that game.

478
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Speaker 5: They need more from him, even if he's banged up,

479
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Speaker 5: which clearly he is. It looked like he was able

480
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Speaker 5: to run forward fast, like when he could get ahead

481
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Speaker 5: of steam. He was running fine, but maybe the change

482
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Speaker 5: of direction and the burst, like going from standing still

483
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Speaker 5: to going by somebody that certainly wasn't there.

484
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Speaker 6: It felt like Haliburton.

485
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Speaker 5: Was just doing line dancing signed to side the entire

486
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Speaker 5: time in the second half, and I thought that was

487
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Speaker 5: kind of the problem for the Pacers.

488
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Speaker 6: Nobody was able to get the ball inside.

489
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Speaker 5: A lot of it is Dort, but a lot of

490
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Speaker 5: it is like the mental game of it as well. Right,

491
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Speaker 5: Like Haliburton wants to pass, he knows he's got Dort

492
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Speaker 5: all over him, He's got his leg bothering him.

493
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Speaker 6: There's a lot going on.

494
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Speaker 5: So there are shots certainly that he could take, that

495
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Speaker 5: he could force up if he wanted to, But that's

496
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Speaker 5: not how he plays. He's got his mind concerned with

497
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Speaker 5: other things, just trying to get through the game. He

498
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Speaker 5: looked like he was processing too much rather than just playing.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were obviously doing a great job again

500
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Speaker 1: of switching, staying in front of him and just being

501
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Speaker 1: the great thunder defense that they are and forcing him

502
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Speaker 1: to pass it. On the other side, Isaiah Hartenstein sat

503
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Speaker 1: after fifty one seconds in the second half. Even though

504
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Speaker 1: he was awesome the first half, he obviously had some

505
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Speaker 1: sort of thing going on with his.

506
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Speaker 3: Lower leg too.

507
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Speaker 1: How low it was I couldn't tell you as a

508
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Speaker 1: non doctor, but he bumped into who bumped into him

509
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Speaker 1: in the first half, and he went back to the

510
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Speaker 1: locker room.

511
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Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, must have been Turner.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it was Turner.

513
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Speaker 1: And you know, he was saying he obviously he came

514
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: back and played a little bit in the in the

515
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Speaker 1: second half, everybody's banged out. So as you said, when

516
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Speaker 1: he was out there, Haliburton, I'm talking about again, he.

517
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Speaker 3: Looked all right. He didn't look it didn't look like

518
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Speaker 3: he was limping.

519
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Speaker 5: Sometimes I thought sometimes he was limping, But in general

520
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Speaker 5: there he could have taken more than one shot in

521
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Speaker 5: the second half. If he's going to play the most

522
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Speaker 5: minutes of anybody in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's again to go back to, like,

524
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Speaker 2: if he's only going to take one shot in the

525
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Speaker 2: second half, then maybe you do have to the coaching

526
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Speaker 2: this This decision is maybe we go to the guy

527
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Speaker 2: that is like brought us back in this game, and

528
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Speaker 2: we lean on him more and it's just one of

529
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Speaker 2: these funky games. We try and pull out again and

530
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Speaker 2: it's not our star. But that's a tough decision. It's

531
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's.

532
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Speaker 4: Your it is your star, guy, it's your all star.

533
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: He says he wants to go.

534
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Speaker 2: I think that does send a bit of a message

535
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: to the rest of the team too, like this guy

536
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: is fighting through this and let's go, and he's hitting.

537
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Speaker 6: Big shots in the fourth quarter of the entire play. Yeah,

538
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 6: we're pulling now.

539
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Right right, But you know this stat is it's a

540
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: telling stat at least here in the postseason Pacers now

541
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Speaker 2: six and seven. When Halliburton scores twenty or fewer points,

542
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Speaker 2: they're perfect. When he scores twenty or more, they're eight. No,

543
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Speaker 2: So I guess it's a stat to watching in game

544
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Speaker 2: six if we have the potential of a game.

545
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Speaker 1: Sough and I thought the Pacers were finally going to

546
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Speaker 1: lose a game where they scored one hundred and ten

547
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: points because they've won. They've won every single game.

548
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 3: They've won every single game.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to one hundred and nine when Johnny

550
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Speaker 1: Furfey hit a basket and and one. He went to

551
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: the free throw line. Now it made a note, Oh

552
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Speaker 1: they lost when they scored one hundred and ten, but

553
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Speaker 1: he missed a free throw, So only one hundred and

554
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Speaker 1: nine U tough, tough one for Was there.

555
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Speaker 2: One of the particular live ball turnovers during that thunderclap

556
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Speaker 2: that jumped out to you the most, TK because it

557
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: was Halliburton and Nemhar with the sloppy play or again

558
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: the great defense.

559
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 4: But was there one more than the other.

560
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 5: You were like, oh, okay, I thought the Killer was

561
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Speaker 5: before the real Thundersworm started.

562
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Speaker 6: Was when it was a memhard turnover.

563
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Speaker 5: He's trying to get the ball back to Halliburt and

564
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 5: he just throws basically an outlet pass the case and Wallace.

565
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Speaker 5: It was like that was a couple of possessions after

566
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Speaker 5: Siakam had hit the three, so it went from a

567
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: two point game to suddenly a seven point game with

568
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Speaker 5: all the momentum now on the side of okay see.

569
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Speaker 5: But my favorite one was gonna be one of my

570
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 5: random notes. It's when Caruso gets the steel at half court.

571
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 5: Somehow Siakam is ahead of him and he swims on

572
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 5: the court to grab the loose ball and then ends

573
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Speaker 5: up being a layup for the Thunder.

574
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Speaker 2: That was an awesome He sort of got overlooked because

575
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Speaker 2: all the other crap that was going that's steel wizards.

576
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Speaker 4: He like slid so far a good way to call it,

577
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: like a swim job to get to it.

578
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Speaker 2: Like it was one thing for him to get the steel,

579
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Speaker 2: but then you're like, okay, well they're not gonna get it, no,

580
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Speaker 2: And then he gets the.

581
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Speaker 4: Ball and they even have the possession that was crazy.

582
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Speaker 4: What a game on.

583
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Speaker 2: A defense, they're just the lead, They're just unreal, Like

584
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Speaker 2: it's so funny. You even get by the maybe the

585
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: first line of defense, and then it's like you have

586
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Speaker 2: to like, okay, now I got to go around chet

587
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Speaker 2: Holmgrin and his long ass limbs. Like like there was

588
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Speaker 2: that one time where Heliberton finally got to the free

589
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Speaker 2: throw line. The amount of work he had to put

590
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Speaker 2: in to like just draw those free throws on Holmegrid

591
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Speaker 2: who was playing them. Well, obviously he's got a lot

592
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: of length like that. He just had to put in

593
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: so much effort just to even get to the line.

594
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Speaker 3: Chat was monstrous.

595
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Speaker 4: And I know he's awesome. And back to back games here.

596
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Speaker 3: He has been.

597
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: He keeps on him and him and Miles going at it.

598
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: Has been a great matchup to watch three blocks in

599
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: this game. How many altered shots as well, just making

600
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Speaker 1: sure that Indiana couldn't score inside and they couldn't they

601
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Speaker 1: couldn't score in two point line a lot of it, Chet,

602
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Speaker 1: no doubt.

603
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Speaker 2: Any other basketball notes before we can get into some

604
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: fun random notes, and we do have that that Nie

605
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Speaker 2: Smith dunk that surprised everyone to show you in second

606
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Speaker 2: but anything else from the game itself or looking ahead

607
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: the game stick Well, let me ask you this, do

608
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Speaker 2: you have confidences come back for a game seven you

609
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Speaker 2: o case?

610
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Speaker 4: Or are they going to take care of business on

611
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Speaker 4: the road.

612
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Speaker 5: It's hard to have a lot of confidence with Haliburton

613
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: playing the way he did in game five and knowing

614
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 5: that there's something wrong with this lower leg. At the

615
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: very least, he's not one hundred percent. They're saying nobody's

616
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent, but him being less than one hundred percent,

617
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Speaker 5: it's going to be a major problem for the Pacers.

618
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 5: They need him to really keep their attack and to

619
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Speaker 5: be aggressive looking to score. And he's got a guy

620
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Speaker 5: who could have won Defensive Player of the Year all

621
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Speaker 5: over him while dealing with a leg injury. So that's

622
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Speaker 5: not to have a lot of confidence. But they're a

623
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Speaker 5: bounce back team and he's a bounce back player. Usually

624
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 5: when he has a stinker, he has a pretty good

625
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: game following up. So ice up, man up.

626
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got that wrap on his calf, So maybe

627
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: it's more of a cramp than anything. I know, it's

628
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Speaker 1: hard to say, but I guess not.

629
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Speaker 3: It's not good.

630
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Speaker 6: Whatever does it ain't good.

631
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Speaker 3: It's not good.

632
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Speaker 4: He has time to hopefully recover a little bit. Do

633
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Speaker 4: you believe this is over on Thursday night?

634
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Speaker 3: I guess, I guess.

635
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: I just want I won't say the Pacers are dead, but.

636
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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to do that anymore. Like everybody's like, okay,

637
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: I've learned my lesson. Yeah, I don't want to say that.

638
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: You can't say it against this Pacers.

639
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: Team, But like you guys are pointing out, like the

640
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: scary part, like other series we've seen in the postseason

641
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: is as it goes on, the Thunderduce seem to get

642
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: better and stronger, and I like click a little bit

643
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: more like their offense definitely like it was a little

644
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: bit like the ball was moving, had a little more

645
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: zip to us go on side to side. They're obviously

646
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: finding backdoor cuts. It just looked better and have they

647
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: like sort of unlocked something. Is a part of that

648
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: been going through j Dubb as the playmaker a little

649
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: bit more? I think so it's it's it's tough to

650
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: think this doesn't wrap up on Thursday night, just because

651
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: I think they're getting stronger and stronger. But the Pacers

652
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: have obviously surprised us time and time again here.

653
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe the role players who play really well

654
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Speaker 1: at home, like your Caseen Wallace and your Aaron Wiggans

655
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: don't splash shots. I mean combined seven threes off the

656
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: bench for those guys. Yeah, a huge first quarter going

657
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: into the second quarter, There's no doubt, but Cruso's going

658
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: to be better. Cruso is only one of eight in

659
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: this game, and I think what's good for him is

660
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: that he tried to crown Miles Turner in that first half.

661
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: He tried to give it to him a nice pack

662
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: and you missed it. So he didn't have a great

663
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: game offensively, obviously doing everything with the defense and getting

664
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: out to that Oka See crowd and getting them pumped

665
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: after that beautiful dive swim. I don't know if Crusoe's

666
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: got a swim move named after him or something, but yeah,

667
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: he's He's doing enough. So maybe the Pacers bench slash

668
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: role players play better at home.

669
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: They played things perfectly with Caruso this season. He played

670
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: more than twenty seven minutes once during the regular season.

671
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: He's played more than twenty seven minutes in every single

672
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: game so far. They started double big last night and

673
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 5: then after I guess uh Hartenstein got pulled first. It

674
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 5: was basically staggered the entire time. Like you said, he

675
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: only got fifty seconds at the start of the second half.

676
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: They basically played one big just so they can get

677
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: Cruso on the floor more. And there's a reason.

678
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then then it just feels unfair when like

679
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: your elite to defensive guys in Dort, Cason Wallace, even

680
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: Caruso who's had some big games, like they're they're not

681
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: a joke. On the other end, like if they're hitting threes,

682
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: like Dort's shot just keeps getting higher and higher and

683
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: keeps going in, like the guy keeps hitting threes. And

684
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: then Cason Wallace, that was the big one I think

685
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: coming into that game last night, I saw a stat

686
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: like Cason Wallis and Chet Holmgren had shots.

687
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 4: They had missed seventeen of eighteen catch and shoot threes

688
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: through the first four games, and then within that game

689
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: Chet had one obviously, then Cason Wallas had a couple there. Yeah,

690
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: all of his are obviously going to come off of

691
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: catch and shoot situations. So you know, it's not really

692
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: fair when those guys are hitting, So you're gonna have

693
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: to hope if your paces fan, that they go back

694
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: to missing probably in game six, but we'll see.

695
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: And they gotta hope to get something from Miles Turner

696
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: because I'm like, chat Holmgren's not shooting the ball well

697
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: like he was four for fifteen last night. He's not

698
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: playing great offensively. Every time he dribbles. If he gets

699
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: to a second ribble at a spin move, and guess what,

700
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: the Pacers know it they're able to deflect it down low.

701
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: But he still has the confidence to try and make

702
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: plays and to take open threes. And Miles Turner looks

703
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: like he does not want the ball. He's the majority

704
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: of these games.

705
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in a bad series.

706
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're giving him shots like that's part of

707
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: the game plan, is like we're going to be up

708
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: on everybody else. Somebody's going to be open. It's gonna

709
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: be Myles Turner and he's thinking about it every day.

710
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: They've never needed a game more to give us a

711
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Game seven than Myles Turner hitting three or four of

712
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: those above the break three or maybe off the pump,

713
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: fake and reset like he needs to. He needs to

714
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: see the first one even go in. Yeah, and then

715
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: you're like Oh, okay, maybe it's one of those games.

716
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: He's a little streaky that way, so he's.

717
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Got to take it.

718
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: He does, got to take it first one right to start.

719
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: He's absolutely in his head that he doesn't he do,

720
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: has no confidence right now in his shot.

721
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some random notes.

722
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: Random Let's start with the aaron Ne Smith toe tap

723
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: before we get to the big dunk. I loved how

724
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: excited Doris Burke was on the call, uh, illustrating and

725
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: showing us great slow mo shot of how he does

726
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: a little toe tap his right foot there before he

727
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: lets the three pointer go, And that was good. I

728
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: was a nice little attention to detail there from Burke

729
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and the crew, and it's sure enough as a thing

730
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: he does.

731
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I think he's just trying to sell his new balance. Hey,

732
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: look at this balance on these shoes.

733
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like a new balances. Like, hey, I mean,

734
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: you had an awesome game there against the Pacers. You've

735
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: been really good on postseason. We're trying to move some

736
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: inventory here. We got this great colorway. I think you

737
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: can do anything before you shoot a three, get some

738
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: eyeballs on the shoe.

739
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, try a toe tap.

740
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: Nice replay a little guy.

741
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: It's like a batting stance. I feel, yeah, make it

742
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: unique like Gary Sheffield have a lot of tapdowns. Joe

743
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 5: Morgan was doing his arm. We should see more of

744
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: this kind of stuff. No, I do think it probably

745
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 5: makes you more likely to step on the three point

746
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 5: line on accident if you're resetting your feet. And that's

747
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: a guy who steps on the three point line on

748
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: fifty percent of my attempts.

749
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: A little bit, I was just gonna ask you, man,

750
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: you you step on the three point line more than

751
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: anyone I've ever Every.

752
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 6: Time I play, I step on the three point line.

753
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: It's a fit. I think fifty to fifty is very fair.

754
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, he's either audit or's not, but he's

755
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: generally very very close. That's a good thing about you.

756
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: Do people call it out?

757
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: Do?

758
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: People say it like you hit a shot?

759
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: And every time I'm like, yeah, probably, yeah, probably did.

760
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't even when Treys lined up for a three

761
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: point if I'm playing against him, I'm immediately looking.

762
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: At his foot.

763
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna lie. I won't lie about it,

764
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: but more times than not, he's on it. You get

765
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: to yell at one it's only one.

766
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that happened to t J McConnell too, because he

767
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: did step on the line for you know, he takes

768
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: his time, as Richard Jefferson points out, Yeah, broadcast.

769
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: Well they did the slow moo replay of TJ taking

770
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: a wide open three.

771
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: From the top.

772
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: It was like a fifteen.

773
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 6: They put it like point seven five speed.

774
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: You're like, what are we watching a coach nick breakdown

775
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 5: of his shooting mechanics.

776
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's stick with Nie Smith though, and we've

777
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: alluded to it a couple of times.

778
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 7: The crazy out of Nowhere put back dunk over chet

779
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 7: hoolgrin And speaking of slowed down, I had to slow

780
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 7: down this video because chet Holmgren kind of looks like

781
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 7: he's possessed.

782
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: First, it's like the spirits enter his body because his

783
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: eyes go to the back of his head.

784
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

785
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: I just froze it here.

786
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: While I was watching the game, I thought, WHOA, there

787
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: must be like six replays. It's got to be spreading

788
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: all over the internet that he is possessed in this video.

789
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: But really it's just that one clip and you kind

790
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: of have to stop it. But it looks like there's

791
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: a spirit that's under his body, but it's just Nie

792
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: Smith going over top of him with two minutes left

793
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: in this game.

794
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: What a huge But it kind of just went under

795
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: the radar.

796
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 6: Dunked it.

797
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Breen didn't know he dunked it. Burke had to

798
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: point out, I think he got doing anything.

799
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: He converted that.

800
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, even it felt like some of

801
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: the players on the floor were even like, what the

802
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: hell just happened?

803
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: Did it go in so fast? Yeah?

804
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 6: And he didn't touch the rim at all?

805
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: Did he It was almost like a perfect swish from

806
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: above the rim with his forearm.

807
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 6: That was a crazy play.

808
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, off and on unchuted shoulder a little bit to

809
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: pump him up a little bit.

810
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite part is after that dunk and after

811
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: the confusion, you can hear they must be sitting right

812
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: behind Brendan Burke and RJ.

813
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: You can hear somebody in the crowd go where did

814
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: he come from? Literally make it make it out somebody.

815
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 6: He come from?

816
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: It's likely good question.

817
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: We already talked about the rebound highlight from Hartenstein with

818
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: the one armed offensive board the other great player. Weird play,

819
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: I guess is a better way to put it. Early

820
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: in the game, Like two minutes into the game, chet

821
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: holmgrin that weird like layup where he like had his

822
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: back turned and.

823
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: He flipped it over his head. That was nice, but weird.

824
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: Shot for a seven footer.

825
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: It's like one thing when a guard does it, you

826
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like a guy that big to

827
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: turn his back because he's like trying to prevent from

828
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: getting blocked, and he flipped it in great shot.

829
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Some beauty.

830
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Also a great moment, and you guys may have not

831
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: seen it. Red Panda performed at halftime.

832
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: I did see it. Making a way around the internets.

833
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Five bowls on her foot at one time. She's able

834
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: to put five bowls onto her head.

835
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: She nailed it last night. Sounded like there was no drop.

836
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: Standing ovation right thick from the crowd. She killed it.

837
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: She's not a real like like she was the goat yep.

838
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: Sort of immediately everyone's like, this is the most insane

839
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: halftime performance. And then I felt like, I don't know

840
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: if she disappeared for a while or we just moved

841
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: on to other things. I know she did have a

842
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: period of time where the bulls were dropping.

843
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: I got on her case. People got very upset with me,

844
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: but I swear like she's back. She really is.

845
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: She's recovered.

846
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so good for her.

847
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: They come backstory.

848
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: This was a fun you know, you saw this image

849
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: going around last night on Twitter when McConnell was like

850
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: bringing the Pacers back that takeover in the third quarter.

851
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: You know, at one point he went to the free

852
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: throw line and people were saying, look at the comparisons

853
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: to the locked in Lebron James catching his breath hunched over.

854
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: We're going, We're going with TJ. So I just did

855
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: the split screen here for everyone. But great similarities.

856
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 6: TJ and l J. That's right, well playing like MJ.

857
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. So just fun stuff.

858
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: And then my final note, and I know you had

859
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: the video on your Twitter account, TK, I did not

860
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: have Tony Bradley fast break attempt slash euro Step attempt

861
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: on my bingo card last night.

862
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 6: Didn't work out, didn't work out.

863
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: Did not even think it was going to be attempted. Yeah,

864
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: that was ballsy.

865
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Tony Bradley was back.

866
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 5: That was a surprise to me to begin with, hadn't

867
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 5: played since the nixt series after the injury. There weren't

868
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 5: trusted than Thomas Bryant, So somehow I think it's Mathrin

869
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 5: passes him the ball basically at the opposing three point line,

870
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: then Tony sees nobody in front of him, I might

871
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: as well handle it.

872
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: Tried the euro step.

873
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 5: I think he could probably just go up on the

874
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: guy who's six inches shorter than you.

875
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 6: But uh, cool move that.

876
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: I was reminded last night watching this game, and maybe

877
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: it was because of Tony Bradley trying a fast break eurostep.

878
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Remember we were told Jaris Walker was only going to

879
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: miss like the first I feel like they told his

880
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: first two games.

881
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 6: They said first two for sure, for sure, and.

882
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: You know, unfortunately I haven't seen him at all, and

883
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: I do think there would have been a place for him,

884
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: a healthy Jeriss Walker at least for some spot minutes.

885
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, to get in there, you need somebody.

886
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: We haven't haven't seen him, so I don't know if

887
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: it happens in game six, but nobody thought Tony Bradley

888
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: would be out there.

889
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 6: And if it's the finals, then you can walk, you

890
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: can try and play, that's right.

891
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 5: I also liked Pascal Siakam after this was in the

892
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, about ten minutes in. I think it's Halliburton

893
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 5: knocks the ball out over the top chet Holmgren's trying

894
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: to rebound as well. Thunder want to replay instantly, but

895
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: Sakam knows the ball is off Halliburton. So as John Goebel,

896
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: the official is holding the ball, is like trying to

897
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: stop all from him to try and out it before

898
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 5: the Thunder could call for their review.

899
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: But uh, Goebel wasn't having any of it.

900
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: And then but then, but that was hilarious because then

901
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: we go and review. This is the one where they

902
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 4: go and review it. They got a yeah, the Thunder

903
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: that were right, Thunder were right.

904
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

905
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: But then they just threw the ball away to profess.

906
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: It was like that was a complete it.

907
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: And we got a replay of John Goebel not giving

908
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: the ball to pass. Yeah, because they want to say, hey,

909
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: this is what referees do.

910
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: Now we brought this up earlier.

911
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: Pause three seconds.

912
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So any.

913
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Other notes, Well, just Isaiah Hartenstein not fighting t J McConnell.

914
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: I thought was a very sportsmanlike moment where TJ McConnell

915
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: gave him a hard foul as a Harmstegin popped up

916
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: and it looked like it's ready for right, it's close.

917
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: But they just shook him, yeah.

918
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: Like dropped him up. Yeah, cool, like a good heart

919
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 4: foul Yeah.

920
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: T J McConnell, everyone assumes probably said, yeah, it was

921
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: just a foul man or I didn't mean to hit you.

922
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I just want to clean foul kind of thing or

923
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: whatever he said.

924
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: It was.

925
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: It was nothing, No, it was nothing. But we saw Hertenstein.

926
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: Who do you get into somebody's face a couple of

927
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: days ago, and maybe it wasn't the finals, maybe then

928
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Nick's Yeah, I don't know, but hel together, but he

929
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: got into somebody's face. There was a technical called on it.

930
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: There was, But I.

931
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: Think about Rick's technical last night where he was livid

932
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: that Nemhard got fouled by Dort On that one.

933
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: I think he had a valid beef the low body

934
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: to body from dort Like. He did a good job, yeah,

935
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: back for sure, but by doing so, he thrust his

936
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: groinal region into heart. I thought, but uh, I mean,

937
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: we'll get into Rick Carlisle later. We'll sauce those nugs later.

938
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

939
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

940
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: One one other thing I think Carlile may have been

941
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: mad about as I slipped it into Pascal Siakam. He

942
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: was driving three and a half minutes into this game.

943
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: His second turnover, he just kind of lost the ball.

944
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Hartenstein looked like he yanked him, looked like he put

945
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: his hand on on Sam's back, and Carlo was mad

946
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: about everything, but.

947
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: Ye had things to be mad about.

948
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 4: Yeah he did. We also did have a Rick spit

949
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: last night.

950
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back turn though I didn't grab the clip

951
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: because I was like, it's not that great, but he

952
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: definitely turns around and yeah, so I don't know what

953
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: do we a is that? Like, is it's gotta his

954
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: third or fourth on camera spit of the finals? I think, oh,

955
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: definitely easily. We gotta gotta go back and watch the

956
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: tape a couple early.

957
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: Every time Rick Carlisle spit during the NBA Finals, it

958
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: might be a great clip.

959
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: Actually, honestly be a pretty good clah. Okay anything else.

960
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, we haven't had a wedgie in fifty three days.

961
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we almost had one last night. Was it a

962
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: block one? I think?

963
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, it it got there, It got close,

964
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: but it I mean obviously didn't stick, Righteah. I think

965
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: it was a home grin play bang bang inside and

966
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: it like sort of like almost wedged in there but

967
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: felt right out.

968
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: But about fifty three long time.

969
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: Is this the longest we've ever gone without a Weggie?

970
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know, obviously I think it

971
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: might be possible.

972
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: That's long Esh is seeing them right now because he's

973
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: putting all forty eight out of the wedgies of the season. Yeah, okay,

974
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, make sure you share the wedgies with your

975
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: friends after eshe puts it up on it after we

976
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: get it up there. But yeah, I'm checking quickly how

977
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: many we've had in the playoffs in the past to

978
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: see if there's a longer span.

979
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: But you we usually have a little more than how

980
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: how many we've had this postseason. We haven't had one

981
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: since the first round, then, is what you're saying. Yeah,

982
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: John conchar, Yeah was the first.

983
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we usually have more.

984
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: And we have one. Do we have one in the

985
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: play in?

986
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: Maybe Nikkil Alexander Walker that's the second one, right, that's Minnesota.

987
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: Versus Lakers April nineteen eighteen. That's the playoffs. So we've

988
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: had two two.

989
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: I think that's the all time low tie for low.

990
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: Let's hope for a game six Weggie. Let's talk at

991
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: it into existence.

992
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep talking about the finals here and a

993
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: bunch of other things. Let's play true or false. Okay,

994
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: first one, this is fun. Ahead of Monday nights Game five,

995
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: ABC aired the player introductions of the starting lineups for

996
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: both the Pacers and the Thunder. This caught me by surprise.

997
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: This was the first time they had done so at

998
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: the Finals since twenty thirteen. It had been twelve years

999
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: since we've just shown you the player introductions. Now, this

1000
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: was fun because a lot of us were like, we

1001
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: were begging for this, Come on, make it feel like

1002
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: the finals. They finally did so. True or false, TK,

1003
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: We'll start with you. ABC needs to keep airing the

1004
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: NBA Final player intros. This is an easy true. This

1005
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: is an easy win for the end last night to

1006
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: just show us guys running out.

1007
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 6: Yeah hear, let's hear your pregame video.

1008
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 5: That was awesome to watch. I was watching with my

1009
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: buddy John. He's a huge sports fan. He had no

1010
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 5: idea that they hadn't shown the intros for the past.

1011
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 6: Twelve years, and he's like, why don't they show the intros?

1012
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 6: This is getting me hyed. I'm like, exactly, Ronny loves it,

1013
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: so rumble the Bison from off top.

1014
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: It felt like turning on a video game and you're

1015
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 5: getting ready to play in the NBA finals. This is

1016
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: cool to see. So yeah, I think they gotta keep

1017
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 5: doing this. I'm sure it cuts into one ad break,

1018
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: but suck it up.

1019
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was sweet.

1020
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: I was wondering if anyone was gonna swerve on this

1021
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: and say false because they would have preferred to have

1022
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: watched another State Farm commercial.

1023
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 6: Pass.

1024
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: I assume you're a true loving this.

1025
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Yes, tell the story for the director of the producer.

1026
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: You see that that we're watching here on YouTube. There's

1027
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a side eye from Shay. He's just

1028
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: he's just waiting that. I noticed that the first time,

1029
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and now I notice it you're watching second time. Because

1030
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: it's a story. It's storytelling from the director and the producer.

1031
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's super boring. It's way better

1032
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: than a commercial. And I understand the ads do pay

1033
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 1: the people working, but who gives a crap? How about

1034
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: more about the Yeah, exactly exactly Again, it could be

1035
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: super duper boring, and Shay is just he's totally locked in.

1036
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: He is.

1037
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: That's like part of what I think is cool about

1038
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: to see like their demeanor, to see like who DAPs up, who,

1039
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: who jumps into who, who's feeling loose, who's more serious?

1040
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: I think that sort of helped at least sets the

1041
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: table for the game. And obviously the crowd is unreal, so.

1042
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: It's better than any other choice. Danielle, my wife gets

1043
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: a little weirded out by the Bison. She doesn't like

1044
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: the Bison.

1045
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1046
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 6: Why does he have bangs? You know?

1047
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: Is weird?

1048
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 4: There was a cool cinematic shot JD. I think you

1049
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: have the pick. At one point during those intros, they

1050
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: showed just over SGA's shoulder. He was looking up at

1051
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: the actual like if you know the okay see video

1052
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: intro before they show the players or introduced the players.

1053
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 4: I just look pretty bad ass. I thought, cool stuff. Now, yes,

1054
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: our friend, what's up? Jim?

1055
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Good point from Eric Namma of The Athletic though. I

1056
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: know in the live blog last night he said quote

1057
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: as someone who has watched a whole lot of introductions

1058
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: over the years, Eric is usually in the building for these.

1059
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: I have to wonder if the league gave instructions to

1060
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: the teams and then the teams gave instructions to the

1061
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: players to honor their actual in arena announcements and not

1062
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: just all run off the bench in one big blob.

1063
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 6: He says.

1064
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: You know, this is a thing the Bucks do a

1065
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: lot of the time, Like they don't wait for each name,

1066
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: but they just like, okay, they're all out there, Like

1067
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Giannis is already out there by the time they're on

1068
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: the third name.

1069
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, maybe not, I don't know.

1071
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: But it's like an interesting point, like, hey, if we're

1072
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 2: gonna do this, don't all run out at once, because

1073
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: it's very confusing for our for our our graphics operator,

1074
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: I run operator.

1075
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: And just another thing about it, you just promote the

1076
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: players as well.

1077
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: I mean you just don't.

1078
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: Some people don't know who is playing for the Indiana

1079
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: Pacers or the Oklahoma City Thunder, and you see names

1080
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: obviously on the jerseys during the game, but you know,

1081
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: here are the ten players. You get to know their names.

1082
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Lou GenZ Dort.

1083
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Is the way they say his name in intros. I

1084
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: didn't know that was common.

1085
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was just gonna be a lou So

1086
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: just yeah, it.

1087
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 3: Just makes sense.

1088
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: Front Office Sports is saying they're keeping it for at

1089
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: least the rest of these finals.

1090
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so.

1091
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 4: We're gonna get it at least once or twice more.

1092
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we got finals on the court.

1093
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we took final.

1094
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: It's starting to feel a little bit more likely took

1095
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: until like game four or five. But we got there

1096
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: and we just had to keep winding about it. But

1097
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: they are listening, I guess.

1098
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: And video reviews have not been long if we want

1099
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the things we complained about.

1100
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 2: No, right, games have been long, though, been Tom Habstro

1101
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: was breaking it down. I don't know about Game five

1102
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: last night. I don't have the numbers on that one.

1103
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: Felt like a pretty long game, but maybe not as long.

1104
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: As Game four.

1105
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: That one was very, very long, and I just mean

1106
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: from like tip to the end of the game. I

1107
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: think I think Tom clocked it at like one hundred

1108
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: and sixty nine minutes.

1109
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty long game.

1110
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: It's longer, it's long. It's over two and a half. Yeah, yeah, fifty.

1111
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: But it was good.

1112
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: It was entertaining.

1113
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 6: We'll see guys giving each other high fives.

1114
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: Know, sure, man, I almost is this weird to say?

1115
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: I almost like seeing the road team more and maybe

1116
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: that's just because the lights are.

1117
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 6: On so you can see them. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1118
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: Where think it's all dark and they set the mood

1119
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: for the home team, But crowd was incredible. Okay, next

1120
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: one here, let's move away from the finals. According to

1121
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: NBA insider Jake Fisher, the Heat have a swing piece

1122
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: that they were reluctant to relinquish in past trade talks

1123
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: with the Suns for Kevin Durant. Fisher wrote in the

1124
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Steinleine newsletter quote Miami's ultimate willingness to surrender Khalil where

1125
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: given the Sun's noted hole at center, could be the

1126
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: true swing factor in the Heat's Durant pursuit. In February,

1127
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: it was clear, sources say Miami was unwilling at the

1128
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: trade deadline to part with either of its recent first

1129
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: round draft successes.

1130
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: Where or Himeyhawks Junior? Could that change now? Wonders Jake Fisher.

1131
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: So I can start with you here, tasks the tru

1132
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: or false question is the Heat shouldn't include Khalil ware

1133
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: in any Kevin Durant trades.

1134
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: I think that's false. I think he should include him.

1135
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: I've gone back and watched every minute of Kohlil wars

1136
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: first season. I'm not gonna pull Kevin O'Connor here, but

1137
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: I did go back and watch watch some of the moments, ok,

1138
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: and I did think that he could potentially win Rookie

1139
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: of the Year after his first month where he was

1140
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: hot as fire?

1141
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: Is that more about the rookie of the year? Is

1142
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: that more about Khalil?

1143
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: Where what I just think there is obviously he's gonna

1144
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: get better, he's raw, he's learning. But I think you

1145
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: they should, They should and would give it up for

1146
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant because I think they are willing to go

1147
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: get a star. Kevin Durant still a star with a

1148
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: big name. He would be I think, extremely happy to

1149
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: be there as the number one option on offense. No

1150
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: disrespect to Tyler Hero, but I think he would love that.

1151
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I think they would embrace that. I think, as we've said,

1152
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: he loves the warm weather. They've got a nine rank

1153
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: ninth ranks defense this past sear, so that is going

1154
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: to work around Kevin Durant. They are still going to

1155
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: be an incredible defense. He is going to make their

1156
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: offense better. And if the piece is Khalil, where I'd

1157
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: be entirely fine with it because it sure seems like

1158
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: that would be the best name.

1159
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the package in this hypothetical Heat to

1160
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: the Suns for Durant deal is going to either be

1161
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins and then Duncan Robinson and his nineteen million

1162
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: dollar contract, then some sort of draft capital. They do

1163
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: have a pick in this year's draft, they have a

1164
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: couple future first round picks, and then either khalil Ware

1165
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: or Jimei hawkas junior. I don't know where Yovic plays

1166
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: into this, but this idea of like where or hawkas junior?

1167
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: The Suns only do it if one of those guys

1168
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: are included. What's your take on that? Would you if

1169
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: you're in Miami's sort of position, hands off him, No

1170
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: way we do that for a thirty seven year old Durrant,

1171
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: or we would include him.

1172
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm more with Tass on this one.

1173
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 5: I think if Miami has any chance of getting this

1174
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: deal done, they would have to include khalil Ware, So

1175
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: I think put him in the offer because it's unlikely

1176
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 5: that this goes to the Heat anyways.

1177
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 6: OK. I just think that there are.

1178
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: Going to better packages from other teams, Like you know,

1179
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 5: the Timberwolves are still kicking around. According to John Krasinski,

1180
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 5: so like, would you rather have Rudy Gobert or Khalil

1181
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 5: Ware for the future?

1182
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 6: For sure?

1183
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: Where but go Beart is a better player right now?

1184
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 5: You also think about what the Heat would look like

1185
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: if they got the deal done. Is khalil whare even

1186
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 5: starting because Shirley Bam and Kevin Durant are your front court?

1187
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: I mean maybe they try and go three, four or

1188
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: five with where is the center? But that seems unlikely

1189
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 5: to me. So I don't see a problem with putting

1190
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: him in the offer because I doubt the Sons would

1191
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: accept it from the.

1192
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Heat, if you had to pick one of the two,

1193
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: If you're the Heat, who would you prefer to move

1194
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: off of Houck as junior.

1195
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: Aware prefer to move off?

1196
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if like we can, okay, we have to

1197
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: we really want Kevin Durant, we have to include one

1198
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: of them.

1199
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: Who would you prefer to keep if you're Miami. It's

1200
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: a tough question.

1201
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: It is a tough question because Himahawk is his rookie

1202
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: year was awesome and then he went to the bench

1203
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to start year two and it didn't work out like

1204
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: he will he did in year one weill khalil Ware

1205
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: is it's fresher here being in his rookie year and

1206
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: having a really good sixty four game season. So I

1207
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: get I guess the potential is higher on khalil where

1208
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: but I believe in Hamahawks as well. But I do

1209
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: agree that he as far as fit wise, as far

1210
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: as the rotation goes, it will be Durant and Bam

1211
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: starting at the four or five if that was the case.

1212
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm starting to think that way because I

1213
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know if Minnesota is willing to take that big

1214
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: a chance, and so I don't know about these packages

1215
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant. We may be talking about the best

1216
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: players here that are available.

1217
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, maybe it feels like if the Rockets

1218
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: are Spurs, I.

1219
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: Mean they've got the piece.

1220
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: More pieces or younger pieces, more promising players.

1221
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

1222
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: I guess the draft capital too. Like I said, the

1223
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: Heat have the number twenty pick in this year's draft

1224
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: that comes by way of the Warriors, and then they

1225
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: have two more future picks that they could include twenty

1226
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: thirty twenty thirty two.

1227
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's.

1228
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: All of that and all of what I mentioned for

1229
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, but maybe one or two of those better

1230
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: than hawkas Yeah, you would let you prefer, Yeah, you

1231
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: would give. I think he's better now, and he's what

1232
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: four years young.

1233
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: Here's much younger.

1234
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hawkes is a guy who comes in and looks

1235
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 5: awesome because he's already skilled and he's an older player.

1236
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 5: You know, it's similar to Dalton connect having a great

1237
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 5: first half of his rookie season as well. There was

1238
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 5: a reason Hawkes was a little bit out of the

1239
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: rotation this year. He's not a great shooter and doesn't

1240
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 5: just have a lot of development left ahead of him.

1241
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 6: Probably.

1242
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, you look at where a seven foot two guy

1243
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 5: who's twenty years old, with the crazy athleticism that he has,

1244
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: you can at least sketch him out as a future

1245
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 5: starting center, whereas Hawkes is probably like a fifth or

1246
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: sixth guy.

1247
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: It's a good point. I sort of do forget that

1248
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Hawkes is turning. He'll be twenty five during next.

1249
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: Season, like during midseason, so he's a bit older than

1250
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: or definitely older than.

1251
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Where yeah who's twenty one? Yeah, yeah, see.

1252
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: Why the Sons would want him, Yeah, desperately need like

1253
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: a young big center.

1254
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 4: To plug in there.

1255
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: I'll take any you'll be asking for that, but I

1256
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: will you get it? I don't think so. I'm with you, guys, Hype,

1257
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: don't don't include him. I don't know KD, Hero and

1258
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Bam in the East that made me fun fun.

1259
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 4: I can't wrap my head around it.

1260
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: Ay Final one Pacers coach Rick Carlisle gave an impassioned

1261
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: defense Sunday a veteran NBA referee Scott Foster, after he

1262
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: was ripped by Indie fans and some media commentators, including us,

1263
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: for his work in Game four. This is what Carlisle said, quote,

1264
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: I think it's awful with some of the things I've

1265
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: seen about the officiating. I've known Scott Foster for thirty

1266
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: years full name. He's a great official. He's done a

1267
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: great job in these playoffs. We've had him a lot

1268
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's being thrown out

1269
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: there is terrible. It's unfair and unjust. So we won't

1270
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: know until the morning of game day, but it's possible

1271
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Foster could be officiating Game six or Game seven, so

1272
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: I want to know true or false. Rick Carlisle defending

1273
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Scott Foster was a calculated move.

1274
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 6: I think true. You really do believe everything's games been

1275
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 6: shipp at this level.

1276
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 5: Skates the guy got super upset at a one missed

1277
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 5: foul call early in the game to get a technical

1278
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 5: in game five. That is no different to me than

1279
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 5: going to the media and saying Scott Foster is a

1280
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 5: good rep.

1281
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 6: We need to get these calls come game seven.

1282
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: That's the same as freaking out at whoever made the

1283
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 5: call in game five.

1284
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 6: Hey, we need to get these calls going forward, so

1285
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: you do what you can. Rick Carlisle is a guy

1286
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 6: who likes to stick up for people.

1287
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 5: He stuck up for Doris Burke as well anytime somebody

1288
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: gets fired. Since he's had so many jobs in the

1289
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 5: coaches Union, Rick Carlisle will always stick up for whoever

1290
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 5: got let go if it's an unjust firing or something

1291
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 5: like that. You'll never hear him advocating for somebody to lose.

1292
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 6: Their job or anything like that. And then you think

1293
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 6: about Scott Foster. He gets put on the finals every year.

1294
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: We think it's crazy because we're like, this guy's the

1295
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 5: extend or the NBA thinks he's the best ref they've got.

1296
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 5: But he brings a lot of scrutiny upon himself because

1297
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 5: he calls the most files of anybody. So then it's like,

1298
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 5: look at all these files we can interview.

1299
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Sure, I do agree he defends people, but I think

1300
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: that's all he's doing in the games. At first, I thought, yeah,

1301
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: of course he's doing this. Yeah, he wants a call,

1302
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: one call, just one call to go his way from

1303
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: Scott Foster. But then you start to think he does everything.

1304
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: He gave Don Nelson the Chuck Daily Lifetime Achievement Award

1305
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: because heads the National Basketball Coaches Association earlier in this

1306
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: NBA Finals, he just does that. You're right, he defends

1307
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: every every broadcaster. He just respects people. So I think

1308
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: this is just respecting Scott Foster. Full names, I think

1309
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: so Scott.

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00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: Foster, though, I mean, is he's a full name guy,

1311
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: Scott no Way?

1312
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: Maybe Foster, But even that fields wrong, mister Foster, He's

1313
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: Scotti the ivory. All right, let's call it there, true

1314
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: or false. Let's hear from you guys in the stream

1315
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: team right now, true or false? With all three of

1316
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: those questions, talking player introductions, talking about the idea of

1317
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: including Khalil Ware or Heimahawk as junior in a heat

1318
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: deal for Kevin rant and then of course Rick Carlo.

1319
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: What was he doing when he was sticking up for

1320
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: Scott Foster?

1321
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 5: Did you know that they referee stats on Basketball Reference?

1322
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 6: I was like, I didn't know.

1323
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: I put Scott Foster into the search bark it comes

1324
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: up with his bio. Give me a good Magruder High

1325
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: School in Rockville, Maryland. We got stats dating back to

1326
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: ninety four ninety five. How many personal fouls per game?

1327
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 5: Scott Foster calls? How many personal fi? How many free

1328
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 5: throws for forty eight minutes? Wow, there's relative data comparing

1329
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: them to the others. There's home versus visitor stats.

1330
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. Thirty teams.

1331
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 5: Who does he called the most personal fouls for forty

1332
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: eight minutes against?

1333
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: Of course you guessed that the Utah Jazz.

1334
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: Awesome Scott Foster stats on Basketball Reference. Go check them out.

1335
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: We'll see if he I mean, I think it's unlikely

1336
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: he would officiate Game six, but I think it's possible

1337
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: Game seven.

1338
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: If it goes there.

1339
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: Again, you don't find out till the morning of they

1340
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: release it at nine am. It's like finding out what

1341
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: the waves are like out on the ocean.

1342
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 6: Scot's up, Scots up.

1343
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 3: But he did game four right, yeah?

1344
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that seems like a quick turnaround, Like why

1345
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: would he not do the first three games?

1346
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: And they did four and six or four?

1347
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: So I said, not six.

1348
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1349
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: I think it's possible because he's the best. At least

1350
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: they think he's the best.

1351
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: It's like having.

1352
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: Because they're like, he's the extender. Let's see if you

1353
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: can get us to game eight. See if you can

1354
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: do the impossible.

1355
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: It's like a baseball starter who starts game four in

1356
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: a playoff series. He's done, like Todd Sonomayer is done.

1357
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: You know, you play pitch, he's done.

1358
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: Coming back?

1359
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: What do you think of? Show he on the map?

1360
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: Did he missed?

1361
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't great?

1362
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got up to one hundred miles per hour.

1363
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: I heard, oh wow, that's what he does.

1364
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 3: But he missed the strike zone.

1365
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: I heard that's all I got. Okay, I hit the

1366
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: strikes all right. So here's the deal, guys. Game six

1367
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: is on Thursday. That means, what are we gonna do tomorrow?

1368
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: We got something fun in store. So you got to

1369
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: join us at ten a m. Eastern we're gonna fire

1370
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: up the the tear Maker and do some ranking when

1371
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: it comes to the past twenty plus NBA finals. I

1372
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: think we'll have a lot of fun with this, so

1373
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: join us at ten am Eastern. We'll get into a

1374
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: whole bunch of debates about how good said NBA finals were.

1375
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: So we'll do that here live on YouTube, flipped into

1376
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: a podcast back on Thursday, gets you hype for game six,

1377
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: and then obviously Friday will be breaking down either the

1378
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: champions in the Oklahoma City Thunder or getting very excited

1379
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: for a Game seven. So we'll see till then. Glover Rose, you.

1380
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 6: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1381
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: Love you guys, awesome.

1382
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: Thanks joining us.

1383
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I remember Scott Foster is like the only other Foster

1384
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: I know. Foster's Australian beer. It's it's known, but it ain't.

1385
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 4: That good, right, absolutely right.

1386
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. You guys know, you guys know better

1387
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: than I do.

1388
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's not I mean, JD, you can chime in

1389
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: here you've had a Fosters or two.

1390
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: I mean it's not it's not good.

1391
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 8: It's not that but you know what it is though,

1392
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 8: Like I think, like, uh, Canadians with like bat Blue

1393
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 8: or Molson Canadian like, that's not a good beer when

1394
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 8: you're in Canada exactly.

1395
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 4: I mean it's a completely basic beer. Now.

1396
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: I think international people like, oh yeah, I gotta try it, right.

1397
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do that when they

1398
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: go to Australia. Gotta have a false test.

1399
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: But I think Australians are like, they're way better bases. Totally.

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones gott to v in it v that's

1401
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: a great beer. Yeah VB is awesome.

1402
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, brace in people

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Speaker 6: Gotta have a false test.