1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: The official pod is presented by win Bet. Betting is 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: a team sport, but together at win Bet. Eric Allen 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: here at one Jets Drive on the second floor, joined 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: by Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Allbrick Brick, How is everything 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: been this offseason? It's been a crazy one. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: It has been again, I think this organization has done 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: a phenomenal job of really refining this roster, getting some 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: key acquisitions and free agency, doing an excellent job in 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: the draft, and then the guys that we have here 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: have been high level dedication. Just them showing up as 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: much as they have and with the correct intent and 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: focus and purpose behind it. So it's an exciting time. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Like it feels like we made some strides from the 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: defensive perspective last year, but you can feel the hum 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: of they're just kind of scratching the surface. 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: What's the difference for you this year approaching your unit? 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Because last year you made a dramatic jump as far 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: as bottom of the league in a number of metrics, 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: and you knew some of that was going to happen. 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: It was as part of the process. You guys are 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: embracing the youth process. Then in twenty twenty two, your 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: defense top five across the board in almost every metric. 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: You know, going through that first season, there was a 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: lot of times, and I think it would be everybody's 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: instinct when you're struggling and not playing as well as 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: you'd like, that you change your philosophy, whether it be schematic, technical, 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. And in an effort to 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: play better football. We fought that instinct. And I know 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: that sounds counterintuitive, but we said, we're not gonna change. 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna we believe in these these uh these concepts, 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: whether they be schematic or technical, and we're just gonna 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: get better at what we do as opposed to to 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: changing this and and you know, trying to create a 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: quick fix in doing that, that was the number one reason. 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: I take that back, that's not the number one reason. 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: That was a big reason we took this enormous jump 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: because this defense, because it's not about smoking mirrors and 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: a ton of deception. It's more about we're just we're 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: gonna outplay you. You may know what we're in and 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: we don't care. We're just gonna out execute you. And 42 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: so you get a full year under your belt, a 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: lot of reps, a lot of keloids, a lot of scars, 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: a lot of successes, and you started to see the 45 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: fruits of that labor and then add the talent that 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: we added, whether it be the fregency or or the draft, 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: and the combination of that was you saw a big jump. 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: And and the really cool thing about this group is, uh, 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, there would be a lot of groups out 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: there that would definitely take a deep breath after a 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: year like that saying we got this, And that is 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: absolutely not the mindset of this group. They believe collectively, 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: from CJ to DJ Read to every single guy on 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: that defense, that we're just scratching the surface. 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Did you expect that kind of jump? I mean, because 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: that was spectacular. I mean you're talking about a jump 57 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: that is rarely seen in the NFL nowadays. 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh. I hoped as we all would. It was. 59 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: It was interesting, you know, in the spring of last year, 60 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: as we started to collect these different pieces Sauce DJ 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: across the board, Uh, you started to see glimpses of 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: some really cool stuff out there on the on the 63 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: grass doing some stuff that that, in my experience in 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 2: this league, maybe better than I'd ever seen but you're 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: very cautious, you know, and and obviously coming off the 66 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: first year where we didn't play as well, you know, 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: like there was a feeling of you know, what is 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: this gonna going to look like? You know, A big 69 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: part of me believed in what we were doing, but 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: until you do it on Sundays, you know, it's still 71 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: it's a it's a big question mark. So I hoped 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: and I saw glimpses in last offseason of major improvement, 73 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: whether it be personnel based or or just getting better 74 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: what we do. But I don't know if I would 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: have said we could have been a top five defense 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: that quickly, you know, So to have done that, it's 77 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: a huge testament to the to the players that we 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: got and the coaches that we have on this on 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: the staff. 80 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: What's the next step in the process now, as you 81 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: guys did take that jump and now teams are going 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: to scout the Jets a lot differently with that personnel 83 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: that you put on the field last year, whether that 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: be the Sauce Gardner's of the world or DJ Reid 85 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: like you mentioned before, Carl Lawson, I think that kind 86 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: of goes under the radar as far as him coming 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: back from injury, because that was really the first year 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: that you guys had lost in out there on the field. 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean those guys, just those three guys alone, huge 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: difference makers. 91 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I would agree, you know, and not to 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: like the Carl Lawson conversation is an exciting one for 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: me because when you do terror Achilles that next year, 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: you're a shadow of yourself. And I'm not saying he 95 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: was a shadow of himself, but he definitely wasn't the 96 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: Carl Lawson that Carl Lawson wanted to be. And I'm 97 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: so excited to get him back and to see him 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: finally feeling really strong and explosive and comfortable and without pain, 99 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: you know. 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: So he's going to take a huge jump. 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Just I think as a group, like we want to 102 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: be a championship defense, and a championship defense obviously you 103 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: have to play very consistent football in every phase, but 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: you got to get the ball. Yeah, those are the 105 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: defenses that win games, win championships and go to the 106 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: next space. That's where we need to make an enormous jump. 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: And that's not just the guys in the back end 108 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: picking the ball off. That's applying pressure. That's me calling, 109 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: the correc calls, putting guys in position to be successful. 110 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: It's all of that. So that's the next component I'm 111 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: not going to get. Obviously, we're very cognizant of the 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: statistics and analytics of everything that we do because they're 113 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: markers that really can indicate success or failure or places. 114 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: That need improvement. 115 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: But the biggest one that I'm looking for this season 116 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: is the turnovers, having the ability to really change games 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: and win games. 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: What's the evolution of that happening. How does that happen? 119 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Because it's not like you and your staff haven't stressed that. 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the things. Like you talk 121 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: to guys around the building they say, you know, they 122 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: lead off the meetings talking about takeaways. 123 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: Yep, it's yeah, and we do. Can we do it better? 124 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, we can do better, and we'll continue to 125 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: find ways to keep that at the forefront of the 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: of the conversation. But a lot of that is just 127 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: getting better at what we do. When the past rush 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: improves and we continue to get better at that and 129 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: we affect quarterbacks at a higher level, that's when picks happen. 130 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: When we create you know, different coverage wrinkles, or we 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: just get better at we do from a coverage perspective, 132 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: that's where turnovers happen. You know that the emphasis has 133 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: always been to be a physical defense, Like we want 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: violence to be one of those first words that you 135 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: speak about when you talk about the Jets defense, and 136 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: there's an element of violence getting the ball off people. 137 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: So it's it's a little bit of all those things, 138 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: but it's it's something that we we collectively, players and 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: coaches like we know that that's the that's the next 140 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: thing that we have to get done here have to. 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: We saw it with Richard Sherman in his career as 142 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: far as him being a technician early on and then 143 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: the ball started coming to him. Yep, He'll started grabbing 144 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: it more and more. They're not the same player, but 145 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: we've seen comparisons between Sauce Gardner Richard Shermers just because 146 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: the body type, the competitive nature of the guys. Do 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: you think that it's bound to happen that's the next 148 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: thing that's gonna happen with Gardner, he had two interceptions 149 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: last year, what was phenomenal as far as leading the 150 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: league impds and then he checked all those boxes right 151 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: he was a pro bowler, his first team All Pro 152 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and then Defensive Rookie of the Year. 153 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the next step for him, and it's he 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: would tell you the same. I was fortunate enough to 155 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: be with Richard as a rookie in his first and 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: second year in the in the NFL to see him 157 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: and there are a million comparisons. 158 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, not. 159 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Just the obvious that they're both long, rangy guys, good athletes, 160 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: good speed, all those things. It's the mindset, it's the approach, 161 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: it's the it's the process that there. 162 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: Both committed to. 163 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: Like there's no part of Richard Sherman as a rookie 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: that you would have said he looks like a rookie, 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Like the way he was at a walk through getting 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: angry because the stem of the of the receiver was 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: wrong or the alignment was incorrect or whatever. His level 168 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: of detail was that of a ten plus. 169 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: Your Vet. 170 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: Sauce has that same makeup. He has this unbelievable mentality 171 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 2: and approach and it's so consistent, especially for a younger guy. 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Every walkthrough you can hear him talking and it's not 173 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: just the funny talk that we enjoy that as well. 174 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: You know, and he gets under people's skin and that's 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: part of his game. But just the talking as far 176 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: as you know, alerting the routes, identifying the formations, you know, 177 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: gathering the pre snap indicators, and then verbalizing that to 178 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: his teammates. It's just different, you know, because corners innately 179 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: are quiet, yeah, typically, and they're they're on their island 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: and they handle their own where he's not built that way. 181 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 2: He's built in a way that he wants to elevate 182 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: everybody's game and if he sees something, he says something 183 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: and he's he's different in that way. So for him 184 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: and Richard Sherman to be compared, there's a lot of 185 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: comparisons in that way. Now, the movement, the athletes, they're 186 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: a little different, you know. But yeah, like Richard Sherman, 187 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: was he a great corner, absolutely, and he got the 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: ball at a high level and he's one of the 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: best to ever do it. But saying that, like Cliff Averell, 190 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: Michael Bennett, I mean that that yeah, that list goes 191 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: on and on as far as the d lineman that 192 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: they had there at the time, and that created that 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: that environment where quarterbacks were not comfortable, you know, and 194 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: bad balls were thrown and and then there's also an 195 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: element of Aaron Rodgers here that that's real and Aaron 196 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: historically a lot of points on the board, to put 197 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: it plainly, And when that happens, we'll get more opportunities 198 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: because guys will have to push the ball on us 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: a little bit more and try to be more aggressive, 200 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: whereas there was times last year. You know, it's just 201 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: the truth of it that people were more conservative against 202 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: us at times. 203 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially late in the season. Did you expect that 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: chip from Sauce coming out? It's drafted number four overall, 205 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Like we're talking about him and Sherman. Sherman was a 206 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: late round pick. You guys found him late in the draft, 207 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: one of the best picks for the last twenty five years. Absolutely, 208 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: did you anticipate Sauce coming in and being as hungry 209 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: as he was? 210 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: I got that feeling from him. I remember in the 211 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: pre draft process, obviously do the interviews, but we took 212 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: him out to dinner. My youngest son was there, Jason, 213 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: and I remember leading that dinner and how blown away 214 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: Jace was of how engaged he was and how many 215 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: questions he asked and how intuitive he was and how 216 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: like there's just a different he's He's different in that way, 217 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: you know, whereas you know, there's a lot of really 218 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: good players in this league that are very uh they 219 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: keep everybody kind of at bay and and and and 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: Sauce wasn't that at all. I felt something different about 221 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: him that night, and uh and it was so uh 222 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: it was so obvious that he had a different mindset 223 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: regarding everything, even though his interactions were different. And so 224 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: to say that I would have known exactly what that 225 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: would have looked like, you know, Monday through Saturday as 226 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: far as the process of gett ready for a game, 227 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: I would have liked to say that that I knew 228 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: was going to look like that, But I think until 229 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: you get your hands on a guy, you don't know. 230 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: And but it didn't take long for us to realize 231 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: what he is all about. 232 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: Like we just had Tony Odin up here and too 233 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: yeah talked about that is that you could tell this 234 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: is a different kind of player, but he was a 235 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: different kind of person as well. 236 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, And it's it's part of his secret, Sauce, 237 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, like just he has rare ability, rare size, 238 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: rare speed, rare transitional stuff, rare instinct, all of that. 239 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: But he has rare work ethic too, which people don't see. 240 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: Jets vans. 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Can 255 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: you talk about We're going to get to the Rogers dynamic. 256 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: But what you have on the edge right now, we 257 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: just talked about Carl Lawson got John Franklin Myers. You 258 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: have Will McDonald's entert of the equation. You have Bryce Huff, 259 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: You got Jermaine. Yeah, you got Jermaine and another first 260 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: round pick. And I know you guys like Brayley and 261 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I as well. I mean, as far as can you 262 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: talk about and that's the first round picks each of 263 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: the last two years, As far as the edge is concerned, 264 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: can you talk about the strength of numbers and what 265 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: potentially you can do with this group and why Will 266 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: McDonald makes sense. 267 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: For you guys. 268 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was twenty sixteen and I was in Atlanta, 269 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: and I know everybody saw the game, and it's one 270 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: of my major keylrds of my life, let alone my 271 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: football life, was us losing that Super Bowl, you know, 272 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: and everybody looks at twenty eight to three, like, how 273 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: did you not win? 274 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: You know? And we ran out of gas a little bit. 275 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: You know. 276 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: We had some really good defensive linemen, we really did, 277 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: but maybe not necessarily the depth to really finish that 278 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: game and put the nails in the coffin. And great 279 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: defenses they always start up front, and great finishing defenses 280 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: absolutely start up front. And that's what we're assembling here, 281 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: we're assembling a group that the first, second, and third 282 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: wave is going to be a problem for you. And 283 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: when we get there, and I think that we're getting close, 284 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: we will not only win games on defense, but we 285 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: will finish games the way we want to and we'll 286 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: win championships because of that defensive line. And that's the 287 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: reason that it is such a priority here, and it's 288 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: a priority for all the really good teams in this league. 289 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: I know it's an old saying, but games are one 290 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: up front and I believe that, and I think the 291 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: test of time believes that. 292 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: And we're getting close. 293 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: How good can this group? Deonsby because not only did 294 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: he land Jermaine Johnson in the draft last year, but 295 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: you commented about the progress of Michael Clements because he 296 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: came in in the fourth round as well. You come 297 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: back this year and you get Will McDonald, Bryce Hoff. 298 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: As far as his pass rush production from a numbers perspective, 299 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, his get off is elite, yes. And then 300 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: we talked about Losston. You think Lawson is probably going 301 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: to be better this year than what we saw last year. 302 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: And then Franklin Weiers he's got the ability to shift 303 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: inside for you guys and Bart Scott always talks about 304 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: this with me. You guys can have some kind of 305 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Nascar package as far as pass rushing situations. 306 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what's really cool about the group is they're 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: so each guy is so unique and has such a 308 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: different brand of football. 309 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: You got our new guy, Will who. 310 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: Is as bendy and long and as twitched up as 311 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: it gets, and he's gonna make guys miss and he's 312 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: going to burn the corner and he's gonna do some 313 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: really cool stuff. 314 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: You already said. 315 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: Bryce has this just elite get off and he can 316 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: just he can embarrass you by just out running you. 317 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: You got Jermaine who I really find feel like he's 318 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: coming into his own as far as really developing his 319 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: pass rush. But what makes him unique is he has 320 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: the speed. His pass rush is getting refined, but he 321 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: has different power than those other guys, and he can 322 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: really put. 323 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: You on skates. John Frank L. 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: Myers is you know, he's probably his greatest value to 325 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: us as his ability to play inside and outside, you know, 326 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: so that's huge and he does both at a very 327 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: high level. I think Michael Clemens will be in that 328 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: similar mold. I think we'll be able to utilize him 329 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: in that that way too, where he can be a 330 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: devastating edgsetter in the run game for a second down 331 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: and at times reduced inside and and go pick on 332 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: some guards. And then Carl is just this, you know, 333 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: he's this technician just he people talk about being obsessed 334 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: with this game, well he demonstrates it every single day. 335 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: His obsession is real. And it's I think we're all 336 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: going to see what he's been working on this year. 337 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: You know, he's I saw him yesterday and we sat 338 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: down had lunch, and he's so excited about just where 339 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: he's at, especially physically because I saw some social media clips. 340 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's it's so funny. 341 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: He was training with Paris Johnson, the offensive lineman that 342 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: went first. 343 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Or went to seven to six I think maybe to Arizona, right. 344 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: The top ten pion. 345 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was training with him in the pre 346 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: draft process with and if you know Carl, Carl's a little, 347 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: a little weird in a really cool way, you know, 348 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: but he's not real cognizant of all the social media. 349 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: He's not real cognizant all the media hype. He kind 350 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: of stays in his own, his own little world, and 351 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: which is one of the things I love about him. 352 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: He's not as affected by all the noise because of that. 353 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: So he had no idea who this Paris Johnson was. 354 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: He just thought he was, you know, maybe a mid 355 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: mid round draft pick, you know. And and he showed 356 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: me the tape and Paris got a taste of the 357 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: NFL before he got to the NFL. 358 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a clinic, you know. 359 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: And and to think that's you know, he's still two 360 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: three months away from our season starting, and where he's 361 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: at physically, especially compared to the the version of Carl 362 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: that we saw last year was still kind of battling 363 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: back from the Endroy. 364 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for him. 365 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: And there's no human that deserves to have success more 366 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: than him, just his work ethic and his approach and 367 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: his mindset. And plus he's a he's a good teammate 368 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: and he's a good man. 369 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: What do you think about the third linebacker spot. 370 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: CJ. 371 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Moseley, Man, he's been so good for you guys. If 372 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: people slept on him after being out of football for 373 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, I mean. 374 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: He's proved his worth. 375 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: Pro Bowler last season. The mic linebacker he's the heart 376 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: of your defense. You re signed Quincy Williams before free agency, stars, 377 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: so we keep him off the market. We saw him 378 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: really develop a former waiver claim who's really found a 379 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: home in this defense. Such a violent striker, and he 380 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: also is so explosive. How do you see this third 381 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: linebacker position shaken out? Jamien Sherwood here, and then you 382 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: guys also draft Zier Barnes. I know on day three 383 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you guys like his potential a lot and homs and 384 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: Nozril Dean returns. What do you think about the group? 385 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, the top two guys are in 386 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: my opinion, they should be in the conversation as one 387 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: of the top linebacker group in the NFL. CJ's awareness 388 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: is his toughness, is consistency, his ability to run this defense. 389 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: We put a lot on his table and he excels 390 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: in that role. 391 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: So just an. 392 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: Amazing man too and teammate, just just as it spoke 393 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: about Carl and then Quincy is just this so unique athlete, 394 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: Like he has wide receiver speed and he's got you know, 395 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: he's got defensive line explosion and violence he has. Yeah, 396 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: he's such a rare combination of all these things and 397 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: now after really getting to be put on repeat and 398 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: and you know, rather learn a lot of stuff. We 399 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: just asked him to learn a few things, and you're 400 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: starting to see him master these few things now and 401 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: the player and the athlete is starting to get you know, 402 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: you're starting to see all his his physical stuff now 403 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: that he's starting to really get the game up top. 404 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: And then this third linebacker position I'm excited about. I 405 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: know there's some angst and there's some outward people are 406 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: a little nervous about who's going to man that position. 407 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: But I really believe we got four or five candidates 408 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: on this team. So those guys are going to compete 409 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: their butts off and through that competition, someone will rise 410 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: and someone will become the man. I would you know, 411 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: we have great faith in all of them too, So uh, 412 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: you know, Jamien could be that guy. And uh and 413 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: if he is, we got a great third linebacker, Like 414 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: you said, Zayre could be that guy. Hamza could be 415 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: that guy. I wouldn't count out Chas Ratt. Yeah, And 416 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: then you know the UDFA is that we we just 417 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: most recently got the three of them, Like they have 418 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: some really interesting athletic stuff to them and potential. So, uh, 419 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a dogfight. You know, there's there's four 420 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: or five dogs and there's one bone, and we're gonna 421 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: get a good third linebacker because of the competition. 422 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: What if people don't know about Michael Carter the Second, 423 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: because rightfully so saw us in DJ get a lot 424 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: of credit because they're one of the top cornerback tandems, 425 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: if not the best cornerback tandem in the National Football League. 426 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I think it was great for DJ 427 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: just from a personal perspective, from an individual perspective, and 428 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: he's the ultimate team guy, but he was able to 429 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: come from the West Coast to the East Coast. And 430 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: I think that now when people think about cornerbacks, they 431 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: know DJ Reid. People in the league knew about DJ Reid, 432 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: about what he was doing out there with San Francisco 433 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: and Seattle, But I think now people elsewhere know what 434 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the story is with DJ. But what about Michael Carter 435 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the second and an important role that he plays on 436 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: your defense. 437 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Even before I get to Michael, You're right about DJ, 438 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: and DJ is another guy that helped change the culture 439 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 2: of this defense because he strains especially in practice at 440 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: a whole different level. You don't see that anymore from pros. 441 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: I would say that I think I think Sauce innately 442 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: is a worker and he's a strainer. But to have 443 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: a guy like DJ who's done it and been there 444 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: to demonstrate it every day, that approach to Sauce, I 445 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: think that took Sauce to another space. 446 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: He's like, there's a perfect compliment for each other. 447 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: They are. 448 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And then Michael Carter is that third component, 449 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: Like we put a ton on this man's shoulders. He 450 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: is essentially a linebacker, a safety, a corner, a sam. 451 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: And a nickel all in one. 452 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: Like we asked him to fit in a B gap 453 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: and then take a slot fade of a slot receiver. 454 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: We ask him to. 455 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: We just put so much on his shoulders, and like, 456 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: if you get him on something from a mental standpoint, 457 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: like it's rare and it's far and in between. He 458 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: is a guy that's constantly he's just he is, he 459 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: is on it, and we're so we are so fortunate 460 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: to have this guy. Plus he's another guy with and 461 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: I know this sounds redundant, but another great human being 462 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: and teammate too, and a guy committed to the process 463 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: and a guy that is dedicated to this team, this organization, 464 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: to this defense at the highest level you could ask for. Yeah, 465 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: he does an amazing job, and he's got a really 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: hard job because not only do we ask him to 467 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: do a lot schematically, but when we ask him to 468 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: play man demand. It's hard because he's on the slot, 469 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: which is typically the hardest, one of the hardest places 470 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: to cover because the guy can go everywhere. He can 471 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: go inside outside, there is there's traffic, and there's the 472 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: The route tree is so much bigger for a slot 473 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: receiver as as opposed to a guy on an outside lane. 474 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: You know, so he's got to he's got to cover 475 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: more routes. 476 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: But on top of that, you already said it like, 477 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: we have one of the best corner tandems in the NFL, 478 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: in the world for that matter, And that makes it 479 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: harder on him because now all of a sudden, he 480 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: becomes a lot of times a target because when they 481 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: look at it, sometimes they look at Sauce and they 482 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: look at DJ, and when Sauce and DJ are really rolling, 483 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm not throwing out there, you know, And not to 484 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: say they'll pick on mc But with Michael Carter, like 485 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: like I said, that's just a bigger route tree. There's 486 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: more options, there's more things available for the quarterback and 487 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: the slot receivers. So then all of a sudden, his 488 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: targets last year went way up. And that's hard living 489 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: and he does it at a high level. 490 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: So he's a huge part of our success. 491 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Quinna Williams stud one of the best defensive players, one 492 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: of the best players in the National Football League. What 493 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: about the changing landscape at the defensive tackle position, because 494 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins did some nice things for you. 495 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: Guys here is you built it? 496 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Obviously signs a nice deal with the Houston Texans. The 497 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: King of strain is Robert Salah liked to call him 498 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Nathan Sheppard. He departs in free agency down to New Orleans. 499 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about what the middle is 500 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna look like next to Quinnon now and most recently 501 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: of course Elwood's signs here. 502 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, again, I'd like to give, like 503 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: forever grateful for my time with both those guys. Sheldon 504 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: Rankins and Nathan Sheppard are just amazing human beings, teammates 505 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: and like you said, they played at a high level 506 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: for us, and they're a huge part of our success 507 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: last year. But there has been a transition and the 508 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: guys that we brought in I'm excited about too. Like 509 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: Quentin Jefferson is a guy that just from Afar, I've always. 510 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: Been a huge fan of his style. He is. 511 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: He is a king of strain. He is a guy 512 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: that just it is. He's all gas, no break. He 513 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: personifies that and demonstrates that every day, all day just 514 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: who he is. It's how he operates. So to get 515 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: him just getting more or juice and energy and guys 516 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: that love this game and are willing to play it 517 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: at the highest level and strain like he does consistently. 518 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: And then Al Woods brings us this big man, this 519 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: tough man in the middle that you're not going to move. 520 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: What I'm most excited about al and this I'm more 521 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: excited for him than even for us. I think the 522 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: NFL has always kind of looked at him as he's 523 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: this world class three four. 524 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: No's world class, and it's hard to argue against that. 525 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: When you watch the tape, you know he'll get head 526 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: up on a center and I don't care if you 527 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: double him or not, Like you're not. 528 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Moving him, and more times than not, he's moving you. 529 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: But in this front, as we know, like we get 530 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: to go, we get to put things on our terms. 531 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: We attack, we don't read, we don't catch blocks. It's 532 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: just not how we operate. So it's not very often 533 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: that you get a guy that's played as much football 534 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: as him. I don't know what year this is, fifteenth 535 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, where he gets to really redefine 536 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: who he is. Here's a guy that the league perceives 537 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: as like a this zero three four ohs. I think 538 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: the league is start. They're going to see a guy 539 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: that he can attack and he's more athletic than people 540 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: give him credit for, and he's faster and he's more 541 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: explosive than people give him credit for. So for him 542 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: to be a part of that is going to be 543 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: really exciting for him. And then Quinnin is just you know, 544 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: I've spoken this a million times over. He is an 545 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: absolute game wrecker. He's he's the rare defensive lineman that is, 546 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: he'll wreck you in the in the run game, and 547 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: he'll wreck you when you want to drop back and 548 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: pass the ball. Like typically guys have superpowers one area 549 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 2: or the other and they have kryptonite in the other 550 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: he doesn't like he checks all the boxes. 551 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: In my opinion, there is no like. 552 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: There are parts of his game that he can prove 553 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: as always for everybody, but as far as his complete 554 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: skill set, it's it's it's unmatched. 555 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: I gotta imagine when you're talking to these guys, when 556 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: you're talking to a Quentin Jefferson, who, oh, by the way, 557 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: at a career high in sacks last year with Seattle, 558 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: When you're talking to an al Woods, not only are 559 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: they like, Hey, I like the system, I like this culture, 560 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: and you guys are right there as far as becoming 561 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: a consistent winner, but I also have an opportunity to 562 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: play next to a world class player in Quentin Williams. Yep, 563 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: that's got to be a draw. 564 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think all those things are a draw for 565 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: these guys. I think that. 566 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: Guys like al Woods and Quentin Jefferson, you know, not 567 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: only good football players, but they really appreciate the culture 568 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: component of a building and a system, and they're both 569 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: so excited about that part of it as well. And 570 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: then on top of that, an opportunity to play next 571 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: to a Quentin Williams, is you know, like it's going 572 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: to be rare that you get the slide, that you 573 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: get the double. You know, Quentin's gonna he's gonna get 574 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: that more time than not. So there's a part of 575 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: it where you're you're gonna have more potentially opportunities than 576 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: other guys would. And I think the big draw for 577 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: a lot of these guys is this this thought that 578 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: you know, the New York Jets. The truth is, haven't 579 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: been the team that we'd all like to be. You know, 580 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: from a fan perspective, I know that for sure that 581 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of disappointment. There's been a lot 582 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: of failure. There's been a lot of falling short. And 583 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: then to be a part of turning this thing around 584 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: and riding this ship and creating something special where there 585 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: wasn't something special. I think there's a major draft of that, 586 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: especially for older guys that are really trying to cement 587 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: their legacy in this game. To be part of a 588 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: turnaround like that, it's special and it can really define 589 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: your career. 590 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed talking to you, But one more topic. 591 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: What's end here speaking about older guys and defining their legacy. 592 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: How about Aaron Rodgers being out there on the field. 593 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Can you talk about the change dynamic for you guys 594 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: on the practice field going against him every day and 595 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: how that can make you all better? And also what 596 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: do you sense from him? 597 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 598 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: I know him through other people prior to him getting here, 599 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: but I didn't know him, and I didn't know him 600 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: obviously from a teammate or from a coach to player 601 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: perspective in the same building. So I didn't really know 602 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 2: what to expect. As we've all seen superstars a lot 603 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: of times, they're recluse there. You know, they peak, they 604 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: keep everybody at arm's length, and they're not inclusive, and 605 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: this guy is the exact opposite of that. It has 606 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: blown my mind. Not only does he know every teammate already, 607 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: he knows every trainer, he knows all the equipment guys, 608 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: he knows the pr guys, he knows the HR guys, 609 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: he knows the chefs in the in the kitchen. His 610 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: level of investment in this organization already is at a 611 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: higher level, especially from a guy of that stature and status, 612 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: and all that he's done in this league is just 613 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: it's so unique. 614 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: And then you know, like. 615 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: I really believe Not only is he going to help 616 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: us win now and help us do something special today, 617 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: but he's going to change the course of a lot 618 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: of these young guys' careers because they get to see 619 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: this game and the process of getting ready to play 620 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: this game at a high level. They get to see 621 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: it demonstrated at a higher level than I've ever seen. 622 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: And it's one thing for me to sit there and 623 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: tell a guy, this is what you should be doing. 624 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: This should I be eating, recovering, studying, taking notes, all 625 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: those things. But for a guy in his eighteenth year 626 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: with multiple MVPs and a Super Bowl MVP to operate 627 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: at the highest level every day, there's nothing more powerful 628 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: than that, you know. So he's going to be a 629 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: huge reason why maybe a guy like Sauce puts that 630 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 2: yellow jacket on. You know why a guy like Quinn 631 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: Williams puts that yellow jacket on because they thought they 632 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: were working until they saw this guy work and they 633 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: realized there's a different place. 634 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: I can go to. 635 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Why is he such a pain of THATSS for a 636 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator oh to prepare. 637 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: For He's just not only the brain like he's gonna 638 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: undress you, and he's gonna typically he's gonna eat the 639 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: entire shot clock to figure out what you're playing. And 640 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: then because he knows this game at such a high level, 641 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: like he knows where to put the ball versus every coverage. 642 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: So that's the mental part of things, which is different. 643 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: And then there's this physical piece where it's like I'm 644 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: out here watching him just doing drills, and you know, 645 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: people always talk about the platform has to be correct, 646 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: the footwork has to be perfect, you know, the our 647 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: motion has to be this, that or whatever, and he 648 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: defies it all. 649 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: Get it. 650 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Like we talk about getting them off the spot from 651 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: a d lin's perspective and affecting quarterbacks in that way. 652 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: I watch him do these drills. It doesn't matter, get 653 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: them off the spot, put them on the spot. Give 654 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: him a good platform, not a good platform. He's still 655 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: throwing dimes, you know. And and so he's he's a 656 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: unique mental obstacle from a defensive coordinator's perspective, but he's 657 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: also a physical mismatch that it's just you know, he's 658 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: probably one of the best, if not the best, pure 659 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: thrower this game he's ever seen. 660 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now he's on your team. 661 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: Not mad about that? 662 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna have to catch up again in 663 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: training camp. Make sure you get your time away at 664 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: the end of this as far as mandatory mini camp, 665 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: because before you know, it's all starting, because you guys 666 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: are one of the first two teams who were starting 667 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: training camps this year. 668 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: Because you will be in the Hall of Fame. Yep, 669 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: thanks Brick, thank you.