WEBVTT - Chelsea Handler 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:12.240 Hi, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Projects. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.280 My guestimator is Chelsea's member, who has a new special 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:20.840 on HBO matic evolution. Chelsea. Good to have you, Hi, 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.400 get to see you. How are you? I'm okay, okay. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.520 In the special, you essentially say that the election of 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.479 Trump drove you to therapy. So I must ask you 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.000 post election, where are you at intellectually and emotionally relative 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.000 to who got elected, the temperature of the country, etcetera. Um, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.440 pretty much, I'm I'm ready to celebrate. I'm gonna go 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.479 skiing for about three months straight to celebrate this victory 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.919 by Biden, and if we win the Georgia Senate race, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.879 I might go skiing for six months straight. I just 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.480 have to find extra snow. Wait, wait, let's switch gears completely, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.440 because that one of the reasons I wanted to talk 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.040 to you is I'm a really big skier and I 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.240 know you're a skier, So have funny, are you literally 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.120 booked for three months? Well? I bought a house in Whistler, Canada, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.360 uh this year before, well before the election, just in 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.399 case the worst happened, and I bought it out of 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.039 fear and I was planning on going there for all 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.080 of ski season, but then you know, we're not allowed 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:23.600 into Canada because of COVID, So I am trying to 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.080 figure out how to get their work wise to film 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.840 something there so that I can spend three months in 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.240 a less COVID rampant ski area, which is Whistler. Have 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.560 you spent a lot of time in Whistler. Yeah? I 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.320 go there every year for my for Christmas with my family, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.240 and then I usually go for my birthday. Well, which 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.440 is what time of year, February. Well, I will tell 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.000 you I've been to Whistler many times and I only 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:53.320 hit it right once, which was two years ago. Because 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.320 the altitude is so low at the bottom. I've been 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.000 there when it's rained, and I've been there when it's 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.160 rained the whole time i've been there. Oh yeah, that sucks. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.520 But yeah, they do get rain and Whistler, but when 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.480 it's not raining, it is the most beautiful mountain to 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.280 ski on and it's massive, so I'm a big fan. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.639 Plus it's Canada, and you know, Canadians are pretty cool 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.840 about everything. You know, they don't start fights, you know 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.360 what I mean. It's not like you're dealing with a 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:24.320 bunch of white male energy. I go to Canada quite 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.079 a lot myself, and was scheduled to go before the shutdown. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.280 Where is your house? Relatively speaking? In Whistler, it's a 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.560 ski and ski out is what it is. So where 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.359 is it Queakside? Is it? Whistler Village? Is a black Home? 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.880 I'd prefer not to say, quite frankly. I mean I've 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.520 had a couple of affairs with ski instructors up there, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.480 so I don't really want to be on the record. Okay, 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.920 I know locals wh I ski with up there, and 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.640 they'll only ski Black Home. So where do you like 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.799 to ski? Yeah? I agree with that Black Home is 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.359 where it's at. But I love every kind of skiing. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.680 I don't need it to be a snowstorm. I don't 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.200 need it to be you know, like, I'm not into 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.799 any particular kind. I just like to have a lot 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.320 of big canvas to work with. And how good a 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.200 skier are you? Um? I'm pretty good. You probably are 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.720 a little bit better than may just based on our age. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.640 I'm not the most perfect skier, but I'm a big daredevil, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.320 so I like to take a lot of risks, like 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.160 I like Helly skiing and cat skiing? Okay, do you 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.840 ski Spanky's Ladder at uh in Black Home? In Black Home, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.360 I have gone down Spanky's ladder once once. No, no, No, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.000 Spanky's Ladder I do all the time. But there's another one. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.080 There's a peak above that that's even harder than I've 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.880 done once. But yes, I've done Spanky's Ladder for sure. Okay, 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.840 So where do you like to ski on Black Comb? Oh? 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.560 I mean what the runs? I mean, I just everywhere. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.400 I can't think of what the runs that I like 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.920 in this moment, but I mean other places I like 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.280 to ski. I love park City just because of the 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.720 vibe of Park City and the options of going to Alter, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:04:00.280 snow Mass or Snowbird. Sorry, but Aspen is also incredible skiing, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.800 and I always kind of had that feeling about Aspen, like, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.680 you know, I don't like a scene when I go skiing. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.360 I like to be off the beaten track, not where 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.960 all the Hollywood people go, So that was always kind 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.600 of a turn off. But last year I went to 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.720 Aspen and skied Snowmass three days and I was the 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.160 only person on the mountain, me and my friend for 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:21.520 three days. It was incredible. It was March. I think 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.640 the one that's off of you know the is it Snowma, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.760 Snowmass the one that's off of you know, twenty minutes 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.919 outside of town. Yes, yeah, that's it. Yeah. So that 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.440 was beautiful. And then we skied the other three mountains there. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.240 But I'll ski anywhere. I love to ski, but I'm 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.719 not you know where I'm not going to ski Vermont. Okay, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.039 did you grow up skiing in Vermont? I did. It 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.320 was miserable. Uh, well, Camelbacks, New York. But Vermont. We 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.159 went to snow a lot. That was one place, but 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.279 we also did a lot of like the bad skiing 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.960 in Vernon Valley in New Jersey. So like I was 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.599 in ski clothes, I mean ski class, and my brothers 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.719 and sisters would leave me all the time, you know, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.440 for hours and hours while I just frozen. My ass 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.320 off was strangers. And when I grew up, I went 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.680 to the Aspen Comedy Festival for and it was in 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.520 the winter and I went skiing with David Allan career. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.040 One day I was like, hey, let's go skiing. I'm like, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.560 I don't have any ski clothes because you don't have 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.200 to it's so warm out you could wear your jeans. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.600 And it was the first time I had skied on 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.120 the West Coast and understood how pleasurable that activity could 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.120 be without having to freeze your ass off. And then 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:31.599 I took skiing a lot more seriously. Okay, so use 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.240 what age were you when you started skiing? Oh, like 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.800 five six I would go all the time for day trips, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.680 or I was in ski camp, but you know not 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.920 but Vermont skiing, you know, ice cold. Okay, But before 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.680 you went to the comedy festival, did you continue to 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.839 essentially ski every year? No? No, I probably went like 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.320 a couple of times in my twenties, and then I 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.200 didn't take it seriously. And then when I skied that 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.280 in Aspen, and then I skied in Tahoe shortly after, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.560 which was the same set of circumstances like spray, beautiful 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.040 warm weather skiing. And then I started to ski again, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.840 and then I had a really bad ski accident in Zermat, Switzerland. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.560 I tore my a c L because I wiped out 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.800 really bad. A little bit slower because my girlfriend also 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.799 tore her ra c L. Literally what happened, because conventionally 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.400 what happens is you fall backward and the toad does 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.320 not release on your binding, and that's how you tend 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:25.920 to break your A c L Do you know how 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.000 you tore yrs? No, it was it was a blur. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.479 But I was, first of all, congratulations and having a girlfriend. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.800 That's a huge victory in and of itself. Okay, long 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.120 time all the what the girlfriend came with? Are you 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.960 veil familiar? Yeah, well I've been there. Okay, So I 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.520 grew up. We had a house in Manchester, Vermont, which 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.200 is Bromly, Stratton and Magic. But I went to college 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.400 at Middlebury College. We had our own ski area, which 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.400 is why I went there, and that's the other side 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.120 of the hill from mad River and sugar Bush. And 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:01.440 then after college, I spent two years in Little Cottonwood Canyon, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.799 Alton Snowbird and I used to pooh pooh Veil, saying 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.279 it was too flat. But they have a place in 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.000 the lodge a veil. When they built Veil in sixty two, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.280 they literally as part of the deal, had to build 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.520 a lodge that is the closest lodge to the lift. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.160 So that is really pretty good. And now I'm trying 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.560 to remember what I was responding to You were saying, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.760 we know what my girlfriend came. Yeah, I know, but 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.400 there was something else. Oh uh, it was had to 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.320 do with park City or in terms of yes, I 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.680 have the girlfriends who came with that benefit. But you 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.400 were in Zermat. Now conventionally you take your come down 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.360 on a sled in Zermatt, they flew you out. Why 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.640 they they flew me out because I tore my a 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.200 c L. So I rolled. I was skiing out of control. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.320 This was before I became a great scare. I just 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.080 loved skiing, but I wasn't concerned with technique. Okay, So 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.280 I was a lunatic. And so I was there with 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.520 three girlfriends and I wiped. I was just going really 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.360 really fast. As you know, they have those long, wide 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.640 rolling hills in Switzerland, right, that's very different and it's 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.880 not very steep. So I don't really have an excuse 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.840 for wiping out like I did, but I did. And 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.160 when I was done, I heard click click click click click, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.960 and I was like, oh no, my leg is off, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.400 Like I'm I probably have one leg when this is 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.640 all said and done. And when I came to a halt, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.720 I looked up in my Austrian ski guide was sitting 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.680 there smoking a cigarette and in his German accent, was 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.600 you just stow your A c L helicopter is coming 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.080 and did you have surgery? Yeah? They met it acted 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.800 me off the mountain, which was a very sexy rescue, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.000 I have to say for German guys. Came out of 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.040 the helicopter and like put me on the first they 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.440 wanted to give me morphine, which I'm so it was 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.320 excited about obviously, and then they put me on a 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.880 stretcher and they dragged me over to the helicopter and 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.040 it was just it was like something out of James Bond. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.040 I was very, very turned on by that experience. But 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.720 then they all had German accents and it was a 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.960 forty five minute ride to the hospital. And I'm Jewish, 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.920 so Jewish too, And I must remember the first time 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.360 I was taking the train from Copenhagen to Switzerland and 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.080 they got on the train and they go pass, report, pass, report, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.400 and it's like wow, right now. When we took the 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.520 train up from I think it was Geneva, you fly 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.680 into to go to Zermat And when we took the 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.800 train up, I got so sick and my friends kept 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.280 making I go, I hate trains. I hate trains. I'm Jewish, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.880 I hate trains. It's just nauseating being on this and 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.680 I go in the accents every time they go. Next time, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:37.040 You're like, it was PTSD from intergenerational PTSD. Anyway, I 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.120 will not be going back to Zirmant, Switzerland. They were 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.320 the rudest bunch of people I've ever ever met. That 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.319 whole town was like, but wait, well, let's go back 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:46.960 to the helicopter for a second. A lot of times 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.480 when they fly injured skiers off the helicopter, they put 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:55.480 the basket outside the helicopter. Did they bring you inside 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.199 the helicopter? I was inside the helicopter, okay. And did 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.560 you have your urgery? And Switzerland or back in Los Angeles? No. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.240 After that, I was dating a guy who met me 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.400 and I think Rome. I went from there to Rome 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.240 and I had just a just like a brace on 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.520 my knee while we traveled through Florence, Rome. Um. We 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.640 went to a bunch of different cities and I just 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.600 wore the brace. And then when I got back to 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.120 l A, I had I went to the doctor and 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.200 he was like, you've done so much damage by not 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.360 getting the surgery right away. He's like, you need to 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:31.240 rehab prehab two before the surgery, like get it strong 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.600 enough for the surgery so that your rehab post surgery 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.080 wouldn't be that difficult. And so then you know after 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.160 you have a wipe out like that. I became a 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.960 much more tentative skier because I was scared. And my 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.520 ski guy that I had skied with for about seven 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.960 years in Whistler. Every year I go with a ski 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.200 guy because I can't be trusted to ski by myself 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.640 and return at the end of the day. And he said, oh, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.800 I see that you're scared. Now skiing like it used 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.440 to be fearless and you're scared. And as soon as 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.640 he said that, I was like, fuck you. And then 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.680 I was like, I'm going to get good at skiing again. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.520 So now I'm really much better than I was ever 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.760 at skiing. Okay, who did your surgery electrosh Yes? Okay, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.920 she did my girlfriends too, same situation. She didn't march around, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.840 but she had to do the prehab. Try to get 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.240 the swelling down. Your girlfriend and I sounded almost like twins. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.400 She literally has a twin, so unless you want to 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.600 be triplets, that's a whole another thing. But did you 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.200 have that machine where you have to put your you 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.600 know sort of it's almost like a stationary bike where 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.880 you're a rowing machine. You have that for a week 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.000 and you have to do all the rehab. Yeah, they 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.880 give you that electronic knee mover machine. Um, so I 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.320 had that and the ice, which you know, I love ice. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.679 You don't know that, but I do. So I love 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.880 icing any part of my body or any excuse to 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.000 ice it. So I had to ice it every night. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.480 But the real problem were the painkillers, because they really 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.040 fuck you up, you know, like, and you have to 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.800 get ahead of the pain. So like on day three, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.040 I was like, Okay, I'm fine, I don't need these anymore. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.320 And then I woke up writhing in pain one night 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.600 and I was like, oh my god, Oh my god, 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.320 oh my god. And you can't. It's hard to catch 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.480 up to the pain, you know, so you really have 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.400 unfortunately I do. Yeah, So you have to give it 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.560 like a week of those pain killers. And those pain 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.320 killers make you crazy. Well, they make you crazy, and 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.920 you're kind of zoned out. It's not like you can read. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.760 You can kind of sit in front of the TV 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.520 or surf. You know. I had a bad accident four 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.840 years ago walking to the ski slope. A friend of 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.559 mine has a house in Alta, literally right between Alton 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.160 Snowboard and you can walk and ski down to Snowboard 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.640 and he's got a black pass. He can get out 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.480 an hour earlier and ski the pile, which is great, 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.599 especially in snowboard. And it was April. It's one of 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.640 those days where it was fifty degrees and then it 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:54.120 was fifteen degrees and I slipped twice walking to go 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.560 skiing and fell out my shoulder and tore my Uh. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.959 How to get rotator cuffs surgery And that's one of 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.320 the first things they said. And I've had too many 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.720 surgeries anyway, not from skiing. It's like, don't wait for 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.200 the pain to come. Then you've already lost it. You 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.240 have tokay, right right, that's good. I once went to 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.320 al to my ski guide in Park City, this guy Carl, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.400 who's like he's going to be a hundred this year. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.360 He's incredible and he has been my ski guide for 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.440 a couple of years and I love him. He took 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.720 me to ski in Alton one day and we went 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.080 to somebody's house. They just lived on the mountain right 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.160 They were built into the side of the mountain. So 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.160 we got there. We got off a lift and skied 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.480 right down to their house and they were grilling bison, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.839 and then they just took us out skiing for the day. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.199 We came back, we had some vodka shots around three, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.120 and then they took us and then we skied out. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.640 I was like, this is the coolest place ever. It 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.319 was like one of those days I'll never forget. Well. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.760 One of the great things about Alton Snowberg is there's 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.520 literally nothing else to do there, so if you are there, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.520 it the focus is really skiing. It's not like you know, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.040 being an aspen or veiling and shopping. These are hardcore skiers. Now, 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.280 my girlfriend, who were her A c l at this 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:06.240 point with your girlfriend in my face. But the reason 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.840 I mentioned is thirteen years ago it happened. It happened 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.600 in the trees and mammoth. I don't know if you know, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.520 Lincoln Mountain a mammoth and we were skiing in the 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:19.120 trees and she fell backwards. She was very tentative when 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.600 she got back on the snow and I won't say 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.720 that she's ever gotten completely after that. We were once out. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.880 We have some friends who were uber wealthy and they 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.760 will only ski with the instructor, and they didn't arrive 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.000 the games instructor and you know, he was taking us 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.280 in the woods. We're not talking about you know, steamboat 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.200 like plates. And I said, you can take her, but 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.840 you know I don't want it on my head. So 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.120 this point in time, you're completely over the tearing of 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.720 your a c L. Yeah. Well, I skied with a 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.480 brace for a long time, so that gives you a 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.560 little extra confidence. And then you know, when they fix 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.240 your knee, it's stronger than the other one. I said 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.480 to why don't I just ski around with two knee 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.960 braces on. That'll prevent any for their injuries. He goes, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.960 you could do that, but you know you say that 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.760 and then you don't follow through with that. I'm pretty good. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.440 I mean, I'm not gonna say I won't get into 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.440 another accident. I hope I don't get into another accident. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:15.640 But I'm a little bit more. Uh, you know, I'm 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.960 a little bit better now, Like I know what I'm doing. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.680 You can put me in. I can pretty much ski 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.760 down anything. Although i'd rather not ski down certain things 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.160 I can. Okay, let's get a little deeper into what 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.320 kind of boots do you have? You're asking me questions, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.280 Bob that I things I don't pay attention to, like 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.560 wells are the most important thing. Okay, let's switch to mother. No, No, 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.240 we could talk about my boots. I had them made 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:40.840 last year at at Sherefoot and Brandon's not here. My 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.000 assistant left, so I don't know what brand they are. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.200 But if you said it, if you want to start guessing, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.360 I could tell you all. Believe I could guess. There's 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.880 like three or five big brands. How many pairs of 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:54.440 skis do you have? Two? You know what those are? 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.280 But I give those away to every season. I give 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.200 them away like to somebody else because I know I'm 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.760 going to get to New pay. I have a pair 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.640 of fat skis, and a Paraffin wants to know. Do 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.720 I know what brand they are? Ship? I don't. Sorry, Well, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.200 real two is good enough. You know I can't use 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.800 one O K two the fat They make some of 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.600 the best female skis. I mean, I got a closet 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:20.560 full of skis. I got one eight teens uh nineties 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:27.480 six is in uh, seventy seven's and uh, I like, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.320 you know, I like the French skis because they're whippy 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.760 or you know, they're different schools of thought. But the 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.920 right tool is important. I used to ski powder in 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.520 the old narrow you know, Rozzi Stratos, etcetera. But having 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.640 a big fat ski makes it certainly more pleasurable. Oh yeah, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.600 but you have to get used to big fat skis, right. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.320 Like I was in my first like major Jackson Hole 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.280 snow storm last year and I was like, I can't, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.920 I can't ski this, Like I could not get get 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.760 the snow under me in the right way, and the 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.920 skis were so much fatter than I had been used 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.800 to because they had had been dumped on the night before. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.160 And it took me like about two hours to be like, Okay, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.040 now I know what I'm doing. Like, it is an 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.399 adjustment to make, especially in the powder, because I know, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.040 once you're good, the powder is easier, but until you 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.600 cross that line, the powder is just you know, so hard. Well, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.080 you know, the interesting thing is where your scheme. Because Jackson, 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.480 which happens to have the best conditions right now, they 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.440 have over a hundred inches have fallen there this year. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.960 The altitude at the bottom is low there at six 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.320 thousand feet. Yeah, they have an inversion there, definitely. The 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.440 snow can be kind of heavy, whereas if you get 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.879 a good day in out in snowboard, little Cottonwood can 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.360 is literally the best snow in the world. It's so 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.160 light that you can use your regular technique, where normally 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.479 you have to sit back a little bit when the 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.879 snow is heavier and that can get tricky, and you know, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.640 the moves are more gradual. It's an adjustment. So where 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.280 have you gone hellie skiing, helly skiing? I've been in 0:17:54.560 --> 0:18:00.240 Helli skiing and Whistler and Switzerland. Before my Injurance Solen 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.359 we went helly skiing and managed to not get injured 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.880 that day. But yeah, and I've done cat skiing at 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.119 the million is it called a million Miles or in 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.240 Park City outside of Park City. We did that last 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.360 two years ago. That was really fun. I hadn't cat 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.159 ski before. So I've only been helly skiing like twice. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.960 And where have you only skied at Zermat in Europe? No? 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.640 I skied at some other place Bacquaietta in Spain, which 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.080 was terrible. And then right, yeah, and the Pyrenees, right, 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:34.119 and then where else in Europe? Uh, Samarets, I've been there. Okay, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.000 that's really glitz Center. Yeah, that was nauseating to me, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.120 so I don't ever want to go back there. Well, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.040 you know, the French ski areas is because a lot 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.400 of them were purpose built after the war. The other 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.159 ski areas have caught up, but the lift infrastructure is 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.080 much better. I've been to Corchevelle, which is now the 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.840 largest ski area with three three value. That's all. That's 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.719 that's verbi A right where corsavell is no no Verbia Switzerland. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.119 Verbis got a lot of exam skiing Corschevelle. It's you 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:03.920 would love it, except there are a lot of Russia's 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.280 Really it's changed. There's a lot of money and val 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.119 de Sair, you know, which is where Chilly is from. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.680 Valdasair has doesn't that have those three little towns where 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:17.160 you write valdasare am I thinking of that. That's coll Okay, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.680 Well you go from valve Thrinds to mal Marabelle to Corshevelle. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.440 But the problem is, uh, the last time I went 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.720 I hate it so wrong. Once again, this was January. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.879 It was warm and then it got cold, so it 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.360 was a sheet of ice. Like you said, going back 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.080 to the West. If you can ski in the West, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.400 there's no reason to ski in these Well. Also it's 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.280 you don't need to go to you know, Europe, just 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.520 because honestly, Canada snow, like this Canadian snow is the 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.080 best it's going to be in the world in my opinion. 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.919 I mean, going to Europe like they don't get the 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.119 same they don't get the same kind of snowfall that 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.000 I can't agree. That's gonna be my next point. The 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.399 last time we were there, the guy said, call me 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.880 before you come, don't book it in advance. Right right, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.480 I'm skip Bam. They have some like those are really 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.199 easy places around Bam, revel Stoke. I was, well, I 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.240 had plans to go there for New Year's this year, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.760 So we'll see what happens. Maybe I will. Actually, if 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.280 I get into Canada, it's looking good. I have to 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.439 take this residency at this theater in Vancouver. Uh so 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.359 I can do two shows every Saturday night and that's 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.680 my work reason to be there, and then I could 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.120 just practice my new set since my special just came out. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:27.920 It's like I get to ski, and then I get 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.040 to perform every weekend and work on my new material. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.359 So it's kind of like a slam dunk. Okay, So 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.760 you want to ski three months this year? What's the 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.280 most number of days you skied in a year? Oh God, 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.439 I never count that, but I would say probably like 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.680 close to sixty. Okay. And if you ever skied to 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.800 Portillo in South America? No, no, but I've talked about 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.280 that a lot, and talked about Japan as well. But no, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.000 I have not yet gone, and obviously this might not 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.400 be the year I've been. Once again, you don't want 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.600 to book it too far in advance. It's all above 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.359 tree line, so when it snows you literally can't go out. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.480 I mean I went out mentioning my girlfriend again. She 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.920 almost got her losing the lesson. But it's like a 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.040 cruise ship. The lifts are slow, but the power never 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.639 gets skied out. It's a really interesting experience which will 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.879 save So have you been to everywhere in the United States? 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.320 Like tell your ride some valley, etcetera. I've been to 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.280 Sunda Ali, I've been to tell you, I haven't been 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.960 to like Crested Butte, I haven't been to a couple 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.200 of Steamboat I've never been there, um, but my big place, 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.080 I like park City because of the variety, obviously, so 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.199 that's kind of my go to if I don't go 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.240 to Whistler. I used to go to tell you ride 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.560 every year, and then they stopped getting snow and that's 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.520 when I pivoted my family vacation to Whistler. That was 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.240 a good idea because I haven't need to tell you 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:46.879 ride right the last time I was here, But they 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:48.920 got a huge snow problem. I'm not a huge fan 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.680 of park City. You ski a park City or Deer Valley. 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.120 I like park City just because my guide is there. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.800 But we spend going We go to Snowbird and Alta 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.639 every other day, you know, so I like the You 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.880 know that as long as you can do that, Okay, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.239 But let's get back to the politics. So you know, 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.240 Biden wins, although the Republicans don't seem to want to 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.480 acknowledge them. No matter how many Republicans tell them that 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.800 there was no election fraud, they don't seem to want 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.320 to accept the obvious, which is very ironic considering how 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.399 much they thought everybody else was a bad loser when 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.280 Trump won the first time. But yeah, but the rules 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.399 don't apply to them. What do you think about the 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.520 seventy odd million who voted for Trump? Um, I think 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.119 we have a lot of work to do, and I 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.560 think that Joe Biden is probably a really good candidate 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.679 to get that done. I think that there's a we 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.040 need to be unified, and I think that he can 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.560 appeal to all sorts of people, you know, in ways 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:49.200 that uh, in ways that other presidents haven't and you know, uh, 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:54.359 he speaks the right language. So I'm optimistic after this, 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.639 the last month of behavior by Trump and if people 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.400 seeing what a sore loser he is and the COVID 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.560 and everything that he's bungled, I'm optimistic that people are 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.800 being picked off. What I am concerned about as these 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:14.320 you know, disinformation misinformation campaigns that places like Facebook allow 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:20.200 spreading of misinformation regarded conspiracy theories and you know, falsehoods 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.440 about COVID and that it's not you know, that it's 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.840 a hoax. Like, I'm really concerned that half of our 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.680 population believes a different set of facts or a set 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.800 of truths which are not facts or truth. Uh So, 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.840 I guess our job is like human beings moving forward 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.200 is not to chastise those people for believing in conspiracy theories, 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:44.040 but just demonstrate and show them like by humanity, like 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:48.800 how the how wrapped up and wrong their information is. 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.400 And that's not necessarily telling somebody, oh, you're an idiot, 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.639 you're stupid. It's like, hey, why don't you let's talk 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.840 about the fact that you guys think there's a pedophilia 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.359 ring being run out of the downstairs basement of a 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.240 pizza parlor, and when you look into that pizza parlor, 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.160 they don't even have a fucking basement. It's like these 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.760 people who believe in these theories couldn't have made that 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.040 next step to look and see if the pizza parlor 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.480 that they think the Clintons are running a pedophilia ring 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.359 out of had a basement. Let's break down a few things. 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.400 On this last show of the season, Bill Maher said, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.240 it's really a cult, and we need Katherine Oxenburg like 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.840 trying to get her daughter India out of Nexium. So 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.440 also the Democrats, and I'm a big lefty, far left 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:37.080 of Biden. The Democrats are always playing defense while the 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.879 Republicans set the agenda. So I believe This is one 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:45.160 of the problems in Hollywood in general. Everybody's always apologizing. Okay, 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.600 so when Hillary talked about the deplorables, she should have 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:54.560 owned it. People should own their statements. So the question becomes, 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.480 by talking to these people regularly, can we really convince 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.959 them other? No, I mean you you may not be 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.879 able to convince an entire swath of a population, but 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.320 you can pick off people here and there, and then 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.960 that spreads, you know, like it's you know, I mean, 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.359 I think it comes down to humanity. As far as 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.800 I'm concerned, this is like a human rights election. You know, 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.080 we're talking about people who have you know what, what 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.600 white people have to do a to make up for 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.360 the bad behavior that we've demonstrated since this country began. 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.920 You know, this is an opportunity for us to be like, 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.760 for us to spread the messaging for people who are 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.879 passionate about politics and about progressive movements. It's this is 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.040 the time. We don't want another like, you know, Obama 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.480 administration just for Democrats because that was just dancing in 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.359 the middle of the road because he was up against 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.520 such racism. But we can achieve that with Joe Biden. 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.600 So I'm with you on pushing him as left as possible, 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:57.680 because we're trying to ameliorate this old guard of democratic moderates, 0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.840 and the future is forward, like young people are done 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.679 with this climate bullshit that we've given them, so we 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:07.199 have to act progressively and act like it's an emergency 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.520 situation because it is. So I'm with you on going 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.800 left and on convincing people. I'm never gonna stop trying. 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.480 You know, people curse me out and tell me they're 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.120 gonna kill me or that I'm a dumb whore blah 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.359 blah blah all the time on social media, and I 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.160 don't give a ship because every once in a while 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.120 you connect with somebody who doesn't agree with you, and 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.159 and then all of a sudden you show them a 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.200 little humanity and they're like, hey, I'm sorry I spoke 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.239 to you that way, I'm sorry that I called you 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.800 a whore, and I'm like, great, okay, now can we 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.880 talk about like what what are our other differences? And 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.439 some people are just really alone, and we have to 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.000 have a little bit more compassion for how people get 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:48.239 interested in following conspiracy theories in the first place, Like 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.280 you know, it starts much earlier than that if you're 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:55.840 that vulnerable to too false ideas. Okay, now you mentioned 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.199 on Howard that you're a book big reader of books. 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.080 Did you read the book? It was raised as one 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.480 of the top ten of the year, called a children's 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.800 Bible by Lydia Millen. No, I did not, Well, this 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.399 was book, you know, it's one of these books that 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.560 sort of, you know, in a world where everybody is 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.000 full of ship I only like to recommend slam dunks. 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.840 But the interesting thing about this book when you finish it, 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:23.560 it's about uh younger and older generation sharing a vacation 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.520 house and then a apocalyptic event happens, a storm. And 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.280 what it really shows how we have to transfer power 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.840 to the young people. The older people just dicking around 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.439 and about lifestyle, and it's the young people who know 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.480 what all the issues are. Now. I was first for 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.760 Warren before she compromised. Once she compromised herself on Medicare 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.960 for walls, once she blinked, I knew she was done. 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.240 Then I went back to Bernie. Now, needless to say, 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.639 I think that the Democrats, you know, they lined up 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.520 behind Biden. I am not optimistic. I'm a big believer 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.600 in AOC those two. You have to throw the long 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.560 ball to get people excited. And I'm not gonna say 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:07.040 I'm anti Biden, etcetera, but being Jew, I am pessimistic. 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.920 Let's start with Georgia. Do you think we'll pick up 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.439 those two seats? I honestly don't know. I mean, I 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.760 don't know. Listen, it's possible. We flipped it blue, so 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.399 it is possible. It is possible. Unfortunately, you have to 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:23.200 win by fifty point one percent, and the Republicans were 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.320 way ahead, but you never really know. It was Stacy 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.360 Abrams of course getting people to vote. But let's say 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:35.320 hypothetically the Senate remains in Republican control. Isn't it sort 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.720 of hard to be optimistic. Yeah, that becomes a different 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.120 story moving forward. Uh, and then Joe Biden really has to, like, 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.400 you know, figure out a way. You know. Let's listen, 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.800 Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden have known each other for 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.360 fifty years. Mitch McConnell is the biggest piece of ship 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.560 that I can think of right now. But they have 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.000 a relationship, and if anyone is going to get anything 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:57.560 done with him, it would be Joe Biden, not Bernie Sanders. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.280 Not Barack Obama, Joe Biden. I like that you're speaking 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.640 English because in you know, amongst the established Democrats, you 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.880 can't say anything negative about Obama and I have nothing 0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.840 negative to say about him or his morals. But he 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.480 was so fearful of appearing the angrily angry black men 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.960 that he constantly, you know, was trying to make peace 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.080 with Republicans who never had any intention to do so. Yeah, 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.440 but you know, listen, you know that's whose fault is that? 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.480 Not his? I mean, they're a bunch of racist white assholes. 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.760 You know, this is the old Guard. It's like the 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.200 death cough of racism is our Senate. I mean, have 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.960 you ever watched any of these Senate hearings? And look 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:37.040 how old every fucking person is. You're like, excuse me? 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.320 Is that they're supposed to be? Like remember when people 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.200 went into politics to represent their community for two years 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.200 or four years and then they went back to their 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.560 regular jobs because it wasn't supposed to be a professional career. 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.160 Being a politician. Was supposed to be like, Oh, I'm 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:55.520 gonna go represent my neighbors, my community. And now we 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.480 have all this money in politics and everybody's just full 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.280 of ship, you know, and you're up against money and 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.200 you can't fight that. So there is hope with this 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:09.000 administration to at least start discussing getting money out of politics, 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.400 like that's something Kamala cares about strongly, and that's something 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.320 that Biden has been a little bit resistant to discuss. 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.200 But I think we're going to get there because he 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.360 has to. He has to be accountable to so many 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.120 groups of marginalized communities right now. You know, he can't 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.280 get away with any funny stuff right now. Well, I 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.280 think the problem you reference is the boomers. The boomers 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:35.240 were always the largest population bulge, and even though they're 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.920 out of touch and I'm a boomer myself, they feel 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.520 entitled to rule. We've certainly seen this over the last 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.680 twenty five years. With tech. They don't even understand what 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.440 is going on. You know, as we speak, their suing Facebook, 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.800 but they still can't understand what is going on there. 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.520 Do you think Newsom is an empty suit? Are good? 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:00.920 I me, And I don't know how you feel that, 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.040 but I think he's bungled this COVID response for sure. 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.600 It's like there's no straight messaging. He bowed for economic 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.000 pressure in the beginning now we're rolling back. Then it 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.680 hit California harder, like it just didn't make any sense. It's, 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.440 you know, closing dining at this point, it's we're all 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.960 at our own risk, right, And I understand the hospitals 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.960 are being overwhelmed, and then when that happens, we have 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.640 to shut down the businesses. But like we're not giving 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.520 people stimulus and we're also telling them they can't work. 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.720 That doesn't work. Well, yeah, you are at the root 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.719 of the matter. I mean, certainly in Canada they've done 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.960 a good job. We have to give the people money. 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.680 You know, we have the billionaires and the corporations. First 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.400 of all, the corporations took all the money in the 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.520 last fucking hand out. Exactly, people can't pay their rent. 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:47.640 What do they expect to happen? And economically, it's been 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.360 proven that by opening the country, the public won't go 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.360 It's like the movie theaters. Public won't go there. It's 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.800 too scared. So you know, you know, Trump's opinion was, well, 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.479 open up everything and it will work. Not only does 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.120 it not work on a medical level, We've seen that 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.840 in Sweden people are too afraid to go out. Well, 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.040 some people don't give a ship and they'll go anywhere. 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.800 But but the thing is, well, not everybody dies, that's 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.920 the problem. So people don't take it so seriously because 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.440 they think they're strong enough and they're not going to 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.280 be affected by it in a dealiterarious way. But what 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.960 I would say is like, you know, thinking that we 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:23.280 should shut everything down for once our hospitals are like 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.000 at MAX, Yes, absolutely we should shut everything down. People. 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.320 We can't abuse them. They've been abused for a year now, 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:33.080 We've abused all of our hospital and frontline workers. But uh, 0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.480 I would say until that MAX is hit, it is 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.440 so important. Like for people who think I just want 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.400 to shut everything down, I don't want anything open. It's 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.880 like it's a very elitist mentality to think because you 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.280 can survive for the next six months without any income, 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.760 that everything should be shut down. Some people need to 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.880 fucking work. Most people need to work week to week 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.440 to week to week. So it's not it's not helpful, 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.320 you know, especially when we're not getting they're not getting 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.080 these stimulus packages people who need them, you know. So 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.080 it is like, you know, it's a working it's a 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.080 nice thing for people to say, oh, we have to 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.080 shut everything down. But it's like, we'll look at your life. 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.920 Is it gonna affect you in that way? Well, let's 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:20.640 talk about you specifically. How seriously have you taken quarantine? Um? Well, 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.160 I filmed my special during COVID If that gives you 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.160 any insight in in their social distaning kind of like 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.880 a Chappell show, but on a day by day basis 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.200 when you're not working and most people are not working. Well, 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.560 I don't. I wear a mask wherever I go. I 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.680 bide by, so I wear a mask when I'm outside 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.120 taking a walk, just like as an example to other 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.120 neighbors and stuff like, hey, I take this seriously, so 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.840 should you? Kind of, But I'm pretty good. I definitely 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.280 have a lot of people coming to my house, Like outside, 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.480 I have social gatherings with three or four friends, Like 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.200 my girlfriends are coming over tonight, but we'll sit outside 0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.000 distanced and we'll have cocktails. And will you wear them 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.520 masks when you're not actually sipping your cocktail? Uh? Yeah, 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.840 we did. We have been the last a few times 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.360 because of the numbers spiking so as much. Um. I 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.479 have also a home test kit because I have white 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.600 privilege and I am wealthy, so I can test anybody 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.080 who comes to my house, and I test myself all 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.040 the time also, so we can get a little bit 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.040 slower because there's issues as to the accuracy of that. 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.120 And there's also a supposedly new one that's very accurate. 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.160 So how long have you had this, kid? Tell us 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.000 a little bit more about it. Mine's the que Health one. 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:36.719 I just got it, so it's supposed to be ninety accurate. Yeah, 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.959 so it's the new one, right, Yeah, So I've I took, 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:41.759 I ruined three tests trying to figure out how to 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.879 use it, but I finally did. And now, I mean, listen, 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:49.080 a test isn't a free I want to be very specific. 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.600 So how much did this unit cost? Back? Five ground okay? 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.759 And how does it work? They give you a cartridge 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.239 which is like the bulk of the price. I think 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.000 it's like eight hund dollars. Then each test is like 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.840 two hundred and something dollars. It comes down to um 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.799 and then every time you use a test, it's like 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.520 it's hooked up to your You download the app on 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.920 your phone, you keep your phone by the cartridge, you 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.120 put your you do your nasal swab in each nostril 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.640 five times and then you plug it into the cartridge 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.680 and in twenty minutes it will give you your result. Wow. 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:26.920 Do you know anybody who's died? Mm hmmm directly? Do 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.360 I know anybody who's died from COVID No, not no, 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.160 no one directly. But I've friends, parents and stuff, but 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:38.319 no one. Unfortunately I do. Uh. But also going back 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.200 to Howard Stern, we were very open. You were talking 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.319 about the issue of a nascent relationship in dating. How 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.720 do you addressed that during COVID era. At first, I 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.680 have them come over and sit in my backyard while 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.719 I interview them for thirty minutes, and then if I 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.440 decide that I would like to move forward with some 0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.880 sexual activity, I asked them about their COVID seriousness, what 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.160 they do, and obviously at this point they're motivated by 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.080 other things, so who knows if they're telling me the truth. 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.239 But I give everyone a COVID test as soon as 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.320 they get here. And while that's not a hundred percent safe, 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.640 I mean a hundred set fool proof, it's still you know, 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.000 I just I just do that. But I mean, you know, 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.720 I don't date a ton, but I definitely have started 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.799 dating because I'm going out of my mind. Okay, what 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.520 is the Chelsea test? Well, first of all, you can't 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.759 wear shoes or a belt that is going to annoy me, 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.360 right like I can look at a pair of shoes 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.799 and be completely turned off. Ok just different gradations. If 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.960 someone comes in with you know, the generic term is 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.360 nikes or converse, is that a turn offer? Is it 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.239 still possible? That's possible, that's cool, that's fine. And what 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.399 if they don't have a belt at all? Even better? 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.879 I prefer not to deal with the belt. Okay, there's 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.480 a sexual innuendo there will Okay for you, there was 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.440 not for me. Okay, let me ask you. Can you 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.839 look at somebody just like you can instantly look at 0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.000 some one and tell them what drugs they should be on. 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.799 Can you instantly look at somebody and it's thumbs upper, 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.319 thumbs down? Yeah for sure. But let me say this, 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.080 A sense of humor can make up for a lot, 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.840 right Like if you're funny or and not even necessarily funny, 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.320 but well yeah kind of you have to be funny. 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.960 Just getting the jokes sometimes isn't enough you Sometimes I 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.799 like somebody who can make getting the jokes. I came 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:23.720 up with that college where there weren't that many Jews. 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.560 You know, if you can't get the jokes, forget it right, right, 0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:30.160 But a sense of humor does make it's so like 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.160 I am a sucker for that. Okay, But the person 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:39.200 the mail comes for the interview, uh. In terms of 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.240 their clothing, let's soon they get over the first turtle, 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.680 like if they're wearing if they're wearing cologne, it's a no, 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.440 I don't like any sense, okay, but but I'm going 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:48.799 a little bit beyond that. If you know, these are 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:53.120 the nose, the belt, the shoes, the cologne. However, if 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:58.200 someone comes dressed evidencing, uh, they want to send an 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.520 image that they're rich, can they can you get past that? 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.880 Or you say, you know this is just too phony, etcetera, 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.600 Like how would you try to prove you're rich about people? 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.280 They're certain jewelry you can wear the gelgy has also 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:15.440 that be gives that's a boner killer for me jewelry. Okay, 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.800 let's assume the person gets over the physical question marks. 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:25.520 Is it more of an interview or more banter banter repartee? 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.840 I like to have a little chemistry, you know, conversational chemistry. 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.360 That's what it is. Banter, that's how I flirt. Okay, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.279 you're a very irreverent person. And you also said you 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.120 went to therapy, but you have no need for therapy 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.720 at this particular moment, not that you might not tomorrow, 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.600 but not right now. So if I'm dating Chelsea Handler, 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:52.359 when do I get the real Chelsea? The inside you're 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:56.560 angst your hopes, your dreams. I mean, I'm pretty I'm 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.200 pretty out. I mean, I'm pretty outspoken about the truth 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.200 of who I am. I'm not. I don't have a 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.839 like persona uh not intentionally anyway. Um, I'm I mean, 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.400 I'm pretty open to talking about real ship, you know. 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.000 I also that's a thing like people who aren't willing 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.840 to go deep. I don't. I find that boring. But 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.799 you're very active and I would tend to think that 0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:22.759 you would dominate most men. Yes, okay, and ultimately the 0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.200 men you've been involved with. What does the power structure 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:31.200 look like? I'm in charge and yeah, and that's the structure. 0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.920 And the time I've had one relationship where I was 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.439 not in charge and that didn't I didn't like that. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.120 And how long did that relationship last? Two and a 0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.640 half years, but with a couple of breakups in between, 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.279 because the end me breaking up with him. And could 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.879 he accept it? Yeah, I mean he didn't. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:52.680 he accepted it. Okay. But if you're in charge, that 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.239 would tend to look like the other person would be 0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:01.560 insecure on some level and afraid of alienating you. If 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.320 I'm in charge, well they should be. That's good. I 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.480 think that's a good dynamic in a relationship. Who's in 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.719 charge with your relationship with your girlfriend, it sounds like 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.479 your girlfriend. It sounds like your girlfriend has I would 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.080 I was in charge for Okay. I've had multiple relationships. 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.080 When I was in law school, I lived with a 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.319 person for years, then I did and then I lived 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.799 with a person that I was married too, and then 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.920 there were like fifteen years and I've been living with 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.719 this woman for fifteen years, and everything was My mother 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.839 recently died, and as a result, I'm close to my 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.000 sisters anyway. She fled a full life, although you know, 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:39.040 passing as serious, and I can see the family dynamic 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.160 growing up definitely affected who I am and how I interact. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.840 My father certainly brought home the bacon, but my mother 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.160 directed all the social elements. And I have two sisters, 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.120 so I grew up in a female dominated household. I 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.480 have no trouble talking to women. But and you were 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.759 kind of referencing this in your special ultimate, and I 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.520 was talking to my dhrink about you this. You know, 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.240 will you put it out there and say, okay, let's 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.239 do it. Not that I had never had sex on 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.160 the first date, okay, but I'm so busy respecting people 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.520 that I can't read the signal that maybe the person 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.399 would want to do it with me. Right, And by 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.200 the way, as a white guy, you need to read 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.719 that signal because the biggest problem white men have is 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.440 not listening to what women are saying, which is usually 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.520 get away from me, no. So it's important that you like, 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:32.000 let the woman make sure you know what she's interested in. 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:36.440 That's historically when you know, you're obviously a product of 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.319 the modern day where you have no you're not caught 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.399 up in the mail in society more rays. But as 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.799 I say, my problem is maybe I'm respecting a little 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:47.839 too much. I mean, I I didn't grow up. I'm 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.440 not a member of fraternity. I'm not a guy who 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.759 you know, has any bro culture and I can be 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.160 turned off by that. But let's just assume. I mean, 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.359 we all have issues. So you're lying in bed with 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:03.319 the with the guy, will you spontaneously talk about your 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.560 inner issues? Inner issues? Yeah, I'm not opposed to that. 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.400 I will. I'm not talking about opposed. Is we look back? 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:17.400 Is that something that happens. Yes, I mean, of course, 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.520 when you're intimate with somebody and you feel like you're 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.320 interested in them. If it's not just sex, which sometimes 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.360 it is, then no. But if it's someone you're interested 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:33.200 in when there's chemistry, then yes, absolutely. Okay, So with 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.680 the guy, what about you, Bob, Are you interested in 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.600 sharing your innermost feelings? I'm interested that in most, But 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:44.600 something happened to me about twenty five years ago. You know. 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.920 The interesting thing is, uh, my father was certainly very outspoken, 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.279 and my mother. To my mother, as I always say, 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.520 it was like when Reggie Jackson came to the Yankees, 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.920 he said he was the straw that stirs the drink. 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.920 And so I am certainly the all that. I mean 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.960 my mother certainly is I went away to college. I 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.120 grew up in the suburbs of Connecticut, fifty miles from 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.520 New York so it's all New York media, etcetera. I 0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.400 went to college in the middle of nowhere, in the 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:16.080 pre DVD VHS era, never mind a little bit after that. 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:20.239 But in any event, I had never been involved with 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.000 that many non Jews who were wealthy, who did not 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:29.040 understand the Jewish experience, and a interacting with don Jews 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.239 is very different from interacting with Jews. And you have 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.560 a certain profile at this point, the average person does 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.440 not know how to interact with celebrity or wealth. I 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.520 went to college, there was Betsy Bass from Baths Show's 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.879 Eileen Rockefeller. I mean, these were people, and you learned 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.640 how to interact. To this day, you know, if I'm 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.439 with their per certain people, I can't bring them along 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.719 because there'll be someone famous and they'll they'll literally embarrass you. 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:59.439 But the point was I was very vocal, okay, once 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.560 I started to right full time and eighty six, and 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.840 I had regular jobs before that in the music and 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.799 film industry. Somehow I've become internalized, and even though I have, 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.319 you know, six figures worth of people listening to me 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:15.600 every day, on some level, I feel a little isolated. 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:18.319 So it makes it more difficult for me to tell 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.960 my story, and you're great because you're having you're telling, 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.720 You're getting me to tell my story. But first and foremost, 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.080 one thing you learn, and i'n't employed as a trick. 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.120 Most people love to talk about themselves and they will 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.120 set tell you absolutely anything. I'm not one of those 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:34.520 people is going to use it against you, but I 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.799 find it fascinating. Everybody's got a life story to tell, 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.520 and I want to hear it. But frequently when I 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.880 start telling my story, you hear noise in the background. 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.839 Oh yeah, I'm rearranging the cupboard whatever. That's because you're 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.400 not saying anything though, You're just you're glossing over the 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.440 question that I asked you. I'm asking you seriously, are 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.920 you into getting deep with with your partners? Say? Are 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.879 you're into having deep conversations? Because absolutely, if anything, I'm 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.439 too deep for people. It's like that Mark Cohn song, 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.680 dig down Deep. There is nothing I would rather do 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.239 than talk about my emotions. They analyze other people's motivations. 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.080 I love that. Well, you're Jew, though, so Jews love 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.280 to do that. It's like Howard you know, he loves 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.480 to talk about you know, That's why it makes a 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:22.000 good interviewer and on the subject though what you can 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.840 ask me, you continue, no interrupts me, go ahead. I 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.280 used to, Uh, you know, there are a lot of people. 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.279 My father was one of those people who would say, 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.360 what's the real story here? You know, you see somebody 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.600 living in your neighborhood at the time, driving a Cadillac, 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.760 going on vacation, but they don't seem to work. There's 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:45.319 always a story, that's what interests me. Where a lot 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.440 of people they take it on face value. Obviously in 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.400 Hollywood you have a lot of people living on debt, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.719 driving expensive cars. One bad thing happens, they lose everything. 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.360 But there's more than that, especially when you're privileged like 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.000 you are, and I am to interact with people who 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.440 have a lot of money, and you realize they say 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.400 they have a job, but they really don't. And then 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:05.840 you know, people do you know. There's one of the 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.640 things that bothers me about Hollywood and famous people is 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.480 these people who get divorced and say, oh, I'm over 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.920 it and immediately get another relationship. If you were in 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.720 a deep relationship, it's gonna take you a long time 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.799 to get over that if you're honest, Because here's someone 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.320 who knows all your personal stories, all your motivations, your acts, 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.160 and and you know I'm not I don't. I don't 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.120 believe in being friends after But even if you are friends, 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.480 that's a little antiquated. I mean, I'm not friends with 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.319 many of my Well, actually that's not true. If enough 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:39.040 time passes, you can be friends. But like, I also 0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.480 find that suspicious when people are friends with their exes. 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.160 But then when I really break it down, it's like, 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.600 that's exactly the way it should be. You should want 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.919 to be friends with the person that you dated or 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.160 that you dated or dating. I find it too painful. 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.359 I used to sleep with this person in the bed. 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.680 I shared everything, and you can interact with them and 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.959 it clicks right back. This is both good and bad. 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.160 You know, you we can with someone you say, well, 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.200 should I have broken up with them, and within seconds 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.440 of reconnecting with them, you see exactly why you write. 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.520 It's like, oh, I forgot why this person annoys me, 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.200 and then I remember, But it's hard for me after 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:17.520 having shared all that stuff. You know, we live in 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.480 a completely phony world where everybody is full of shit. 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.719 So when you get down to the essence of it, 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.680 that's when you really feel like a human being. Also, 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.880 when you get older, you realize it's all bullshit. I 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.640 have compassion. I believe everybody is a title to food 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.239 on their plate and a roof over their house, you know, 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.160 because when you're desperate, and I've been desperate, that's really bad. 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.560 Other than that, accomplishments, it's all irrelevant. Ultimately, none of 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.600 us will be remembered, and in a short term probably 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.439 people will be remembered. Weren't even that famous in our era. 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.000 So it's about your interact. This is one of the 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.919 problems with men. Men. It's all about a totem pole. 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.960 I gotta get this. I gotta that where a woman 0:47:56.000 --> 0:48:00.239 can go from experience to experience. So generally, okay, let's 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.960 say you break up with somebody. You'll call all your friends. 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.600 You'll tell the story. So I'm coming over with some 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.120 you know, sweet, some chalkol ate, whatever, and you'll talk 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.359 it out. If you call a guy. If a guy 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.879 calls a guy, you say, oh, come over, let's sit 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.680 on the couch and watch some sports. They can't even 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.960 get into this. They can't even discuss it. It's like 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.880 and the best part is if you're a girl and 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.640 you break up with a guy and you wonder if 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.440 he's talking to his friends about you. He's not. I 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.640 never heard him said that way, but that is absolutely true. 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.040 It's like, oh, he's gonna talk to his friends and 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.600 they're gonna tell him how great I was and how 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.600 he fucked up. And then you're like, no, they're not. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.960 They're just gonna be like, Okay, good, We're glad that's over. 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.759 You know, you have this idea like women are able 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:44.760 to make up, and you know this is just because 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:47.560 of the construct of everything, you know, societal construct and 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.479 stuff that we've you know, there's so much value place 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.520 on the way a woman thinks versus the way a 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.880 man thinks, because we're so different. And the bottom line is, 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.759 you know, yeah we're a little bit different, but we're 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.360 the same more than more different. And like, when I 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.920 find a guy that can really actually talk intellectually about 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:10.120 his emotions or about his feelings, like that is the 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.880 biggest turn on. And that's what's happening now. You know, 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.359 like men have to come to the table with more 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.600 than just they're you know, they're dick in their hands. 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:22.279 Excuse my French for those seventeenth time I've cursed on 0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.640 this podcast. Curse as much as you want, but they 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.520 have to come to the table with a little bit more, 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.480 if you know what I mean. You can't just be 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.440 a guy trying to get laid and have no depth 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.479 to you. It's like you can, but then you're gonna 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:37.839 get You're gonna get the mirror image of yourself. Okay. 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:43.240 Has anyone ever broken up with you? Um? Yeah, yeah, 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:48.239 I'm trying to remember hold on, uh broken up with me? Yes. 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.120 I had a guy, a boyfriend when I was like 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.319 in my twenties. He he owned the building that I 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.839 lived in Santa Monica. I lived on Wilshore and at 0:49:55.840 --> 0:50:00.320 this building, and his name was Bijon. He was Persian, 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.880 but he went by John, so I didn't know he 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.919 was Persian until I was dating for about four months 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.719 and saw Bien written somewhere. I'm like, hold up, what 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:09.880 are you Persian? And he said yes I am. I'm like, 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:13.000 okay that okay, I didn't know that, thank you. Anyway, 0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.760 we had a cute little relationship for like six months. 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.120 I was really into him. I was probably twenty five 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.920 six years old, and I was hustling doing stand up 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.240 around town, and I had had a couple of small 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.359 breaks and he didn't like that I wanted to be 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.480 in the entertainment industry or that I wanted to be 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:32.080 famous or any of that stuff. It was a big 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:33.960 turn off to him, as it would have been to myself, 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.040 by the way. Uh. And so I said, I'm gonna write. 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.120 I got a book deal, was my very first book deal, 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.040 and it was a book about all my one night 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:43.920 stands that I had had in my twenties. It was 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.840 called My Horizontal Life, a collection of one night stands. 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.640 And he said, if you write a book like that, like, 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.319 I'm not gonna be dating you. And I was like, 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.680 oh my god, really and he so he broke up 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.319 with me. And you know, when you're immature and you're 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:03.359 a girl, you really believe like everyone's going to come 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:05.520 to their senses like that they're gonna miss you so 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.920 much that they're going to come back and you know, 0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.040 want to be with you. And he was not interested 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:11.640 in being with me. I mean I begged him to 0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.960 get back together like twice. He said, no, as long 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:15.560 as you want to be in the entertainment industry, I'm 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.880 not interested in that. Well, that's black. That's black and white. 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:22.600 That makes it easy. But don't you think it's interesting 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.360 that you're usually the person who breaks up with the 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:29.279 other person. Well, not considering my history, I don't really 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.439 trust men, you know, until I like time out, time out. 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:39.000 I'm talking about Chelsea Handler doesn't trust men. I'm an 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:42.920 independent woman. So, as I talked about in my special, 0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.440 you know, my brother passed away when I was nine 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:49.800 years old, and he you know, he was an accident, 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.120 but he told me, like looked me in the eye 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.200 right before he left and said, I will never leave 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.840 you with these people. He was talking about my parents. 0:51:57.880 --> 0:51:59.920 But he was going on a hiking trip in Jackson, 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.840 oh Wyoming, and he said that to me because I 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.120 was questioning why he was going away without the family. 0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:09.080 I'd never been separated from my brother before ever. He 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.560 was the oldest. I was the youngest of six. And 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.040 when he said I'll never leave it with these people, like, 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.239 I'll never forget that feeling like, oh, this man is 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:19.560 going to take care of me for the rest of 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.760 my life. He cares more about me than anybody. And 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.800 he died three days later, got into a hiking accident, 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.840 fell off a Cliff and died. And then my father's 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.239 reaction to that was also as withdrawn. Like my dad, 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.279 who was very present in my life up until my 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.920 brother's death, it made me lose trusted men, like as 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:41.480 a unit, like the two guys that I relied on 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.840 the most had disappointed me. And so I, you know, 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:49.320 I walked through life with this. I don't need anybody. 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.560 I don't need anybody. I'll never depend on a man again. 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.319 They can't be trusted. Men can't be trusted. Men can't 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.760 be trusted, you know. And I didn't unpack the until 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:58.560 I was forty years old and Trump was elected, and 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.439 I was like, I'm mad at Donald Up. I can't 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.799 believe he's the president. And my psychiatrists would just sit 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.880 there and let me run in circles for like six weeks, 0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.520 until he finally was like, your anger is not about 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.319 Donald Trump. There's something else that this is triggering, Like 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:17.640 this is deeper, and this is from your childhood. And 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:22.239 I was like, there's no way I'm going to talk 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.040 about my childhood with this fucking guy. And then two 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.760 weeks later, you know, I just he opened my brain 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.960 in a way that I hadn't been exposed to before 0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:34.680 to actually take a real look at how I gone 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:38.319 through my life and what the biggest impacts were, and 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:42.600 not taking my brother's death seriously, not enough to think 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.839 I had to go to therapy for it because I did. Well, 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.520 you're obviously a very strong person. That's probably one of 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.080 the reasons you resisted therapy. And you say you only 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:52.839 want to rely on yourself. But when you talk about 0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:56.160 your father and your brother, there's certainly male but it's 0:53:56.200 --> 0:54:00.160 also caught up in the family unit. So and I 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.239 certainly understand your point. It's about extrapolating that into your 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:08.120 regular life. But is has it been so dominant that 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:11.160 your experiences with men one on one as an adult 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:15.160 don't affect that, or have you also had experiences with 0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:19.400 men as an adults that you say they're not pressworthy? Well? Both, 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.839 I think. I think I didn't know, like you know, 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.240 what kind of guy to trust, and I didn't trust anyone. 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:29.080 So it was a constant battle of me trying to 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.360 make them show me how much they were going to 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.200 do for me or how much they loved me, Like 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.799 if you love me, prove it. It was like, you know, black, 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:42.400 very black and white. Um, so I was dealing with 0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.719 men as like as a as a nine year old 0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:48.319 little girl essentially, you know, like that immaturity, that where 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.120 I was stuck. I was stuck at that age and 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.200 many aspects of my life. And once somebody said that 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.600 out loud to me, I was like, Oh, I've read 0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:59.560 so many books about this, and yet I never recognized 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.920 myself in it, you know, because it's so hard to 0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:06.239 see your own situation. Sometimes, you know, everybody else can 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:07.759 look at me and go, well, of course she's like 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:09.839 this because her brother Dawn when she was nine, or 0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:12.440 you know, her father this and that, and it's like, 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.920 but you you don't always see how you are behaving. 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.279 You don't always have a clear self awareness. And I 0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:24.200 think that's the biggest gift of therapy is the gift 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:29.359 of self awareness. Okay, so having gotten these insights had 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.960 does it change your behavior with men subsequent there too? Totally? 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:36.840 Everything is different. Everything is different in my life. I 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:40.240 have so much more patience. I meditate every single morning. 0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.080 This morning, I meditated for thirty minutes until I was 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:46.040 rudely interrupted by Irving as Off and Shelly A's Off 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:51.520 calling me together postcoital hopefully um first thing this morning. 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:56.319 But I I meditate. I don't react in the way 0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.440 that I used to. I respond now, you know, if 0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.960 I get a ext or an email that I disagree 0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.359 with or I don't like, I don't fire it off 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.600 in this angry energy where you're on your phone, like 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:11.640 what what? I don't panic anymore. I just know that, like, 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:15.080 I have a zen quality that I just never had before. 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.120 And it's made me be able to sit with myself 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.160 for long periods of time without having anything to do. 0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:25.640 It's made me calm down. You know. It was, like 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.319 I say, cannabis. I always joked that cannabis was my 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:33.200 gateway drug into meditation, but it's true. Like I started, 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.000 you know, when it was legalized here, because obviously I 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:39.799 would never do anything illegal. Bob, I'm not I I 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.360 got the joke like another comedian. I'm just laughing in 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:47.120 my mind. I started, um, you know, using cannabis, and 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.520 I started drinking a lot less because you know, when 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.839 you're angry about something, and alcohol is like a hat 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.680 on a hat. So my pivot to cannabis kind of 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:59.560 relaxed me altogether. And I'm a real big proponent of 0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.359 it now because a little bit slower. One might say, well, 0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:05.480 it's like a sex a little bit slower, Like you 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:08.480 said that like three times, you're gonna I want to 0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:13.279 stop at You're No, you're not going too fast. You're 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.320 saying so many interesting things that I don't want to 0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:21.000 run past them with and lose them. In the overall conversation, 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.200 you're talking about arm cure psychology you get from the books. 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:35.800 Wouldn't arm cure psychologists say that, uh, you are self 0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.840 medicating and that maybe there's a better drug to reduce 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.560 your panic and melo ja? Yeah, I mean whatever, who 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:47.600 cares if? I mean a psychiatrist, he's a professional. He no, 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.360 he did. I told him. I came in hot one day. 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:52.640 I was like, hey, I've told him about this, you 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:56.760 know re uh, this renaissance of cannabis and now that 0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:00.880 there's this educational component to cannabis. Where you look there, 0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:03.320 it's labeled. Now you know what you're taking. You're not 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.040 taking a cookie that's some guy put pot in. You know, 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:11.880 you're not taking like unum unlabeled amounts of THHC. It's 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.480 it tells you what you're taking. Okay, But did your 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.640 doctor ever say I want to give you an antidepression, 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.440 or a different job. No, I don't have a depressive personality. 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.240 That wasn't my issue. My issue was anger, not depression. 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.680 I don't have it. I don't have anxiety. I don't 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:29.920 have depression. I am in a different box of personalities. Okay, 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.680 but what other issues do you have besides anger and 0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:39.280 mistrusting men? Patients, lack of patients, lack of deeper, deeper, 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.320 I'm talking more Chelsea, at the root level. Lack of 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.880 empathy was pretty d root. Wow. Wow, So has this 0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:50.200 been historic? You've never really had empathy? No, I had 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.360 to have him sympathy, Yes, like sympathy. I'm happy to 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.200 help anyone, even if it's a stranger, but certainly my friends. 0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:00.440 I've shown up on people's beds, you know, millions of 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.680 times in my life and stayed there, you know, not 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.200 just the day that somebody dies or that you know 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.560 someone's unfaithful, or but the days after. I'm very good 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.440 at helping people through crises, like that's one of my things. 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:17.160 Because my childhood was a crisis or a crisis. It 0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:20.080 was like it was built of many crises. So I 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:23.360 know how to act in an emergency situation. I'm a fixer. 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.120 I go in and I man handle the situation, and 0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:27.760 I'm like, this is what we're gonna do. This is 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.360 what you're gonna do, and I don't leave until my 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.880 patient is better. Like, I take it that seriously. But 0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:39.160 empathy is actually doing all of those things while imagining 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.800 what it's like to be the person that I'm helping. Right, 0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:48.240 I'm that's that's something that I never even could grasp. Okay, 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.960 but is that also related to the experience you had 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:57.240 when your brother died and your father disconnected? Possibly? I mean, yeah, 0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.560 I think so. I'm sure it is. Uh, but it's 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.160 definitely something that I had to cultivate, you know. And 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:04.600 I was like, you know, the minute he said that, 1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:06.200 I was like, Okay, where do I get empathy? I 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:10.120 was like, is there an app I can download? He's like, no, No, 1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:13.520 this is something that you can work on and cultivate. Like, 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:15.960 you have to start thinking about people and their lives 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:19.400 and their experiences, not just how it relates to you. 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:22.720 Like if somebody at an airport is annoying instead of 1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.240 you know me, it's like, oh, well, think about where 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.520 they're coming from. Think about what's going on in their life, 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.920 think about their wife or their children. It's like broadening 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.080 your understanding of other people, although that's different. You know, 1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.400 we both know how hard it is to make it 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:40.120 in the entertainment business, and those people may be struggling 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:42.560 through life. But you have to be very one minded 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.920 to be successful, and you can't spend that much time 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:50.560 with time wasters who are not helping your career. So 1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:52.640 there's a little bit of a quid pro quote. I'm 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:54.520 not saying you're untrue, but it's like, say, you know, 1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:57.440 my father, you know, used to call these people schnooks, 1:00:57.880 --> 1:00:59.240 and you know, it's like you don't want to waste 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.800 time with your with the shnooks, etcetera. And I, you know, 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:05.160 I go crazy too. But it's also somewhat there's a 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.760 fast lean and a slow lane, and it's interesting to me, 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.240 you know, it's kind of like, uh, it's the poor 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:13.919 people who give more money percentage wise to charities than 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:17.160 the rich. The poor have more empathy. It's a very 1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:20.680 interesting topic. It is a very interesting topic, and it's 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:24.439 valuable to have. It's valuable to you know, to think 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:26.200 about what it's like to be a black person in 1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:28.680 this world. If you're a white person, and if you're 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:30.840 a white male, to think about what it's like to 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:32.880 be a woman to have to be scared at night 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.120 when you walk home. Have you ever had to think 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.600 about that, you know, as a black person, have you 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.080 ever been scared being pulled over by the police. I mean, 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.240 I'm sure, yes, you can say yes to that, but 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.760 I've argued with police like more times than I can 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:48.600 count before I was the celebrity, just based on my 1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:51.160 own entitlement and based on the fact that I had 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:53.560 the right to and guess what, I got off all 1:01:53.560 --> 1:01:59.200 the time because I was young and pretty and white. Okay, 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:03.880 uh with the psychia? You know what holds in dreams? 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:06.160 Do you still have? What are your goals? Got a 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.760 bad connotation, but you certainly had your own TV show, 1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:13.360 You've had contract with Netflix, You've had six very successful books. 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:19.720 What does Chelsea Handler want now? Um? Great question. You know, 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:23.720 I think I'm really one of the favorite My favorite 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:27.920 things to do is to shoot documentaries because, like you, 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:33.280 I really enjoy having conversations with real people, not necessarily celebrities, 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:34.840 because I kind of you know, did that for a 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:38.720 very long time. But I love documentaries and I love 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:41.240 pushing the envelope, and I love to have thought provoking 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:46.000 conversations that make people like me think more or harder 1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:49.800 about a certain subject that they may not be privy to. Um. 1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:53.120 And so I'm gonna probably try and do another Chelsea 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.280 Does series, which I did for Netflix, which was a 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:59.200 set of four documentaries. I did another documentary called Hello Privilege, 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:02.000 It's Me Chelsea for Netflix a few years ago, and 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:05.760 I kind of like that that dynamic, So you know, 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:08.800 I probably will probably that will be my next project. 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:12.920 And then you know, they're developing my book at Universal 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:16.560 to turn it into a TV show, so uh, you know, 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.680 that's something that I'm excited about acting in it. You know, 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:22.400 I don't know that I'll host a show again. I 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.520 don't know that I have that in me again, you 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.320 know what I mean. I feel like I'm right now 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:32.080 able to be a little bit more thoughtful about my projects. 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:34.400 So when I do something, it has a little bit 1:03:34.400 --> 1:03:38.960 more meaning and heft than my you know, my early years, 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:42.520 and that is valuable to me. So sometimes I think 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.760 when you take a contract and you're expected to be 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:46.680 on the air five nights a week, you know, the 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:50.520 quality gets diminished. In my experience, and I would like 1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:54.320 to be able to put in you know, like high integrity, 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:58.720 high quality stuff. Do you have to put your own irreverent, 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.880 humorous personnel or do you think you could do a 1:04:01.920 --> 1:04:05.600 documentary that was just informative and straight? Oh no, I 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:08.120 always infuse humor. I mean to it, I don't do 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:11.200 anything straight. I mean, there are serious subjects, but I 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:13.480 can still make them funny. You know, you have to 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:15.360 pick and choose your moments, and I think that's an 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:19.640 art in and of itself, um, which is interesting to explore. 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:23.240 I'm never gonna be, you know, like a Diane Sawyer. 1:04:23.480 --> 1:04:27.600 I'm I'm gonna be a joking about it also. Uh, 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.760 but you know there's also an internal dialogue that you have, 1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:33.600 Like being on a show as silly as Chelsea Lately, 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:36.960 as entertaining as that was for so many people, you know, 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:39.520 you start to thank, Oh God, is this all I am? Like? 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:41.280 Is this what people think of me? That I can 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:43.480 just sit around and make fun of celebrities. I'm so 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:47.120 much more than that. I'm so deep, much deeper. I read, 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:50.280 I'm like educated, I like, you know, I there's so 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:54.720 much more to me politically, social justice, you know, I 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:58.360 so so it was I was very you know, to 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:01.560 hydrated for some series business of my life. It was 1:05:01.600 --> 1:05:04.320 a little too silly. I want to be humorous, and 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:06.400 I always want to deliver the goods in a comedic 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.040 way because it's much easier to you know, take the 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:13.240 medicine if it's funny. But uh yeah, I mean I 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:15.600 always have a comic bent to it. If it's not, 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:18.120 if there's not a dose of a little bit of humor, 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:21.400 it's not appealing to me. Okay, you mentioned a couple 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.400 of times readings, So what do you read? M hmm. 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:28.120 I just read a book called Getting Over Yourself? The 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:31.360 what was it called? I wrote a book called the 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:36.720 uh Mark Epstein wrote it the Guide to Getting over 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:39.320 Yourself Advice not given, that's what it's called. And then 1:05:39.360 --> 1:05:42.320 I just read Kazie David's new book called No One 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:45.840 Asked for This. And then this is an incredible book 1:05:45.880 --> 1:05:50.120 that I just finished. This is called Past I'm sure 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:53.320 you've heard of it by Isabel will Person and that 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:57.160 I think should be required reading for every middle school. Okay, 1:05:57.200 --> 1:05:59.840 but those are all non fiction books. Do you tend 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:03.360 to only read nonfiction or fiction too? No? I read fiction. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:06.680 I'm in a nonfiction stage, but I read fiction, and 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:09.080 if I read fiction, I like classic literature, you know, 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:14.920 like like Lady Chatterly or like um Weathering Heights, like 1:06:15.000 --> 1:06:18.040 that kind of stuff that's really escapist, you know. During 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:22.800 this time especially, I just read this autobiography. Oh, this 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:25.120 was a big one that I just read during COVID. 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:29.600 This is an autobiography on Frederick Douglas. You can see that. 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:32.600 It's so that's a that was a big book. But again, 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:37.760 I'm in that nonfiction phase because probably because of BLM 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:39.760 and everything that's happened this year, I just feel like 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:43.040 I have to get as as educated as possible. You know. 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:44.640 It's funny. I went to college with people wo end 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:46.880 up being in the book business, and I was a 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:50.920 nonfiction reader, and then they said they only read fiction 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:54.240 because it's truer to life, and it's really switched me. 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:57.560 I mean, uh, I gotta kindle once again from my 1:06:57.600 --> 1:07:00.280 girlfriend from my birthday in two thousand nine, and I 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:03.080 made a commitment to myself if I bought the book, 1:07:03.120 --> 1:07:05.480 I'd finish it okay. And I lived up to that 1:07:05.520 --> 1:07:09.160 commitment and I got really into read. I'm a big reader. 1:07:09.200 --> 1:07:11.760 I'm reading all day long. Mostly, you know, I get 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:15.280 three physical newspapers. People say, why, I'm checking the apps 1:07:15.560 --> 1:07:18.080 dozens of times a day, But with the physical newspaper, 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:20.320 you'll see a certain article that you wouldn't see otherwise. 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:23.520 Even though the days of physical newspapers are numbered, I 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:25.720 read the paper every day. I don't read the whole paper, 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:27.440 but I get the New York Times delivered every day 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:30.160 just because I like to support journalism. And you know, 1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:32.360 I read about an article or two unless it's Sunday 1:07:32.360 --> 1:07:35.919 and then I read about seven. Okay, Why is there 1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:40.720 any hope for us to convince the Hoi POLLOI that 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:44.520 the New York Times, whatever their criticisms, is the most 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:51.120 authoritative journal on the planet. Mm hmmm, well, I I 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.880 would hope that that vibe will come back around while 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:57.120 we're still here, you know where where New York Times 1:07:57.200 --> 1:08:01.280 was the standard the standard of news, and the Washington 1:08:01.360 --> 1:08:05.280 Post not liberal media outlets, which is ridiculous. I agree totally. 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.960 The funny thing about it is if you watch any 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.280 of the right wing stuff, and I do because I 1:08:10.320 --> 1:08:12.080 want to know what the enemy is up to. And 1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:15.480 even MSNBC they're constantly quoting the New York Times of 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:17.560 the Washington Post, they said, New York Times since the 1:08:17.640 --> 1:08:19.960 agenda for the whole world because they have boots on 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:22.800 the ground everywhere, so irrelevant if you talk about spin, 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:26.360 that is how the whole world finds out what's going on. 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:31.080 Not that I can criticize the The Times, but as 1:08:31.120 --> 1:08:34.559 I say, certain fiction books, you know, they really resonate 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:36.280 with me. How about TV? You watch a good amount 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:38.639 of Well, wait, I have some good fiction books. Let's 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:42.400 talk about my favorite fiction books. House of Mirth is 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:45.639 one of the best books I've ever read. I mean, 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:47.120 I don't know why it's called House of Mirth because 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:49.080 there's nothing funny about it, but it's well, what is 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:51.479 how Samrth? Ring? Ring my bell on? That? How s 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:55.479 the mirth? Who wrote how samrth? Edith Wharton? Okay, I 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:59.400 must admit I'm lacking on the classics. Okay, Anna Karenina 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:04.519 by Joy Jeff is the best book ever written. Right 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:08.400 there we go. People who want to dive in, what 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:11.240 translation you read is very important. They've been in the 1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:13.760 last thirty years. Have been some great translations. But if 1:09:13.760 --> 1:09:16.840 you can find a good one, unbelievable. Yeah, I have 1:09:16.960 --> 1:09:19.000 to reread that book. That's something I don't do enough 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:21.160 of is rereading books. You know what I mean? We 1:09:21.200 --> 1:09:24.280 read a book never, we never we watch a movie. Figure, 1:09:24.280 --> 1:09:27.000 life's too short. I could read or watch something new. 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:30.080 But another book, a fiction book that I read. I 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:33.960 read the South Korean author who is beautiful. It's called Pachinko, 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:38.840 which is, if anyone's listening, it is a beautifully. It's 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:41.599 just there's this. There's a whole different flare to like 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:45.920 Asian writers and the way they describe things, and it's succinct. 1:09:46.439 --> 1:09:47.920 You know, it doesn't go on and on like in 1:09:47.920 --> 1:09:50.599 a John Steinbeck kind of way. You know how John 1:09:50.680 --> 1:09:53.040 to Steinbeck is a descriptive writer. Right, he can talk 1:09:53.080 --> 1:09:55.200 about the leaves on the trees for about forty minutes, 1:09:55.240 --> 1:09:57.320 and I'm like, oh, for Fox's sake, can we just 1:09:57.760 --> 1:10:01.040 get to some action. I'd agree more you. The number 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:04.120 one thing about a book and writing is it has 1:10:04.160 --> 1:10:07.760 to be readable. Content is secondary to readability. Once they 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:09.759 get you know, you talk about reading on a kindle, 1:10:09.800 --> 1:10:13.000 you download the sample chapter. Once they get super into description, 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:16.360 I'm out. I don't want to being written like a screenplay. 1:10:16.400 --> 1:10:20.360 But I read for story. Okay, there are all these 1:10:20.360 --> 1:10:22.759 people you know who are the you know, there's there's 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:27.480 no more self righteous artistic enterprise than the book business. Okay, 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:34.599 these people are on their high horses. There's a great 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:36.200 book I read. I was just trying to think of 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:39.560 the name of it last year. That is so beautiful 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:45.000 and it's fantastical, which is not my reality. But it 1:10:45.040 --> 1:10:48.400 was a New York Times bestseller, and uh, what is it? 1:10:48.800 --> 1:10:51.960 It was about this? What's a plot about It's it's 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:54.880 hard to describe without sounding stupid, but it's this little 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:58.120 it's a nymph that's living, that lives like for thousands 1:10:58.120 --> 1:11:00.840 and thousands and thousands of years, and it's a Greek mythology. 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:05.840 But this is invers Sarcy. Did you read it? No, 1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:10.719 everyone's recommended. It was my it was my favorite book. 1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:16.479 That is my favorite book. You've got to get into 1:11:16.520 --> 1:11:20.839 it because the writing is so finely tuned that she 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:22.840 she will end a sentence and you have to put 1:11:22.840 --> 1:11:25.840 the book down. You're like, what like she It's like 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:29.280 it's like a clapback, you know, like everything she says 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:32.320 in the last sentence describes, And this woman lives for 1:11:32.360 --> 1:11:36.120 two thousand years and she goes through all these generations 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:38.639 of people, and she's got a lover and she's got 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:41.920 a son, and it's like the most humane story. But 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:45.080 it's in such a fairy tale, fantastical setting, which I 1:11:45.160 --> 1:11:49.040 usually am. Not into this book with Madeleine what's her 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:52.160 name wrote it, Madeline Miller. It's got that that bronze 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:54.599 and black cover. Yeah, read it. Why don't you read 1:11:54.680 --> 1:11:56.559 that for me? Because and you give me a book 1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:58.519 to read and then we can discuss it. Okay, I 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:00.599 got a couple of books for you to maybe we'll 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:04.240 talk off the but um, we'll give me the recommendations 1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:06.600 now for your list. What is the name of the 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:11.639 woman ship who wrote the book? Her? The famous book 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:15.400 is about the war in France, And but the one 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:18.720 that I really like is about without going through my 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:22.960 kindle library, about the family that moves to Alaska. Uh. 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:26.000 The other thing that I'm going to mention is the trilogy. 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:28.960 You didn't even finish mentioning the first book. I have 1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:31.439 no idea what I'm gonna have to look it up, 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:34.600 as I say, you know. Also, unfortunate things reading on 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:37.879 the kindle unless you touch name is in Hildebrand. Hildebrand 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:41.160 is the person who does the you know, uh, like 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:47.200 The Horse Story, etcetera. Kristen Hannah, The Great Alone. Okay, 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:53.400 most people have read the previous book which I read after, 1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:57.719 which is The Nightingale. I have that downstairs. I haven't 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:01.800 read it yet. Should I read that? Okay? These are 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:06.519 easy books to read, and you have to gauge whether 1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:10.160 they're highbrow or low brow. One of the reasons I 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:14.080 love the Alaska book is because I'm really into the 1:13:14.080 --> 1:13:17.840 winter weather in isolation, when the weather is terrible and 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:20.360 the loots are open, that's when I love to go out. 1:13:20.600 --> 1:13:25.000 It's only like me and society. But most people prefer 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:28.000 The Nightingale. But there are other books of that can 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:30.000 I read? Should I read The Nightingale first and then 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:33.240 read the Alaska one? That's what most people would do, 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:36.920 so so then I'll do the opposite, okay, and the 1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:42.080 English Woman with the trilogy. You'll really dig this Harry Potter. Yeah, right. 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:44.280 If you haven't read House of Mirth, you need to 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:47.599 read that because it's very society based and it's very 1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:51.280 prescient for what like, nothing's changed. You got to read 1:13:51.320 --> 1:13:53.960 this book. This is one book you'll read in a night. 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:58.440 Do you know this book? Group? No? It's a bestseller. 1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:01.800 It's a woman who went into group therapy and it 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:06.040 changed your life. Okay, it's very fast read. I'm not 1:14:06.200 --> 1:14:10.000 saying necessarily you read because of identified. But she's very 1:14:10.040 --> 1:14:12.479 honest about her feelings and as I say, it takes 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:18.479 nothing to get into that. Uh. But you know, are 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:26.599 you into somewhat science fiction e type things? Uh? Yeah, 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:30.400 but not No, I'm not really. I don't like that. Okay, 1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:33.080 because there's a there's a I'm not into it either. 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:38.960 But people love this book blog stars. Okay, all right, 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:43.000 it's not really much science fiction. It's set in the future. Okay, 1:14:43.040 --> 1:14:45.760 going through some ship you probably read. I'm not a 1:14:45.760 --> 1:14:48.920 big an Patchet fan, But did you read The Dutch House. No, 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:51.240 I don't read the I don't. I don't read that 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:54.400 those kinds of books. Like, I'm not into an Patchet 1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:56.880 Like I get how power, like how great she is, 1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:59.120 but those are not my style. Just so I know, 1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.599 because I'm not into most of the stuff she does. 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:06.160 What is it about that turns you off? It's just 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:10.559 not my style. I don't feel like i'm learning anything. 1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:14.240 Like I like something that's either historical fiction or I 1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:17.880 like to be thinking that I'm educating myself and I 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:22.520 don't feel like those situations are anywhere near a reality, 1:15:22.680 --> 1:15:25.000 you know what I mean. And the dynamics are like, 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:30.120 it's just not like my style of stuff. Okay. Uh, 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:32.120 that one, because I'm not a big fan, is about 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:34.400 a house in a family house. But but but forget that. 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:38.320 I found the trilogy Rachel cust let me, Okay, how 1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:40.599 do you spell it? Last nime? Well, I'm gonna get it. Okay, 1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:42.559 I want to make sure you start with the right one. 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:46.720 But you know what, I think I've probably read like 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:49.559 one an Hatch and Patrick. Listen, I'm not a big fan. 1:15:49.600 --> 1:15:50.960 I'm not putting on the top of the list. Just 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:58.639 read this book called Outline, okay by Rachel Cusk see 1:15:58.760 --> 1:16:03.599 u s K. It is very interior and you will dig. 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:07.439 There's two more that are part of the trilogy. On trilogy. Unfortunately, 1:16:07.479 --> 1:16:10.200 the first one is the best. This is not low 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:13.639 brows stuff, but it's not highbrow stuff. You talk about 1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:17.400 speaking to someone's feeling the way they experience the world. 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:22.040 It's really good, really good. Oh well, thank you for 1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:26.639 these recommendations. I say, I certainly have more than that. 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:29.560 But let me maybe we should start a book club. 1:16:29.680 --> 1:16:31.720 I'd love to start a book club. I would love 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:33.800 a book club too. I don't have anyone who reads 1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:36.479 it like I do in my life. Okay, but let 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:39.880 me ask you a question. With Oprah, she had the 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:43.400 book club and they used to do it on TV. Okay, 1:16:43.560 --> 1:16:46.880 now she just recommends the book and there's no meeting. 1:16:47.439 --> 1:16:49.759 What I want to know to you, is it enough 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:52.120 that other people read the book or do you want 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:56.000 to have a discussion about it. Yeah? I like a 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:59.040 discussion about a book. Okay, I like a discussion. And 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:00.519 I went to college and this is one of the 1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:03.639 reasons I stopped being an English major. You know, there's 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:07.720 the classical interpretation, they're the metaphors whatever. What I like 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:11.559 most about a book is the experience talking about my 1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:14.519 connection with the book. So I don't want to bring 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:18.000 in a facilitator who'll talk about what the first sentences whatever. 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:21.240 I want to talk about how the book made me feel. Yeah. 1:17:21.280 --> 1:17:23.800 I think it's a difference between deconstructing a book and 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:28.320 actually talking about your experience reading the book, you know. Uh, 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:30.400 and so yeah, I agree with you. I don't need 1:17:30.479 --> 1:17:33.160 to know how it's being interpreted or what the classic 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:37.799 analytical you know, analysis is of it. I'm more interested 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:40.240 in discussing what you got out of it and what 1:17:40.320 --> 1:17:43.799 other people got out of it that I didn't necessarily. Okay, listen, 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:45.680 if you seriously want to do it, I'll do it 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:48.160 with you. And well, can we can we get your 1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:52.280 girlfriend to do it? Absolutely? She reads everything I read. Absolutely. 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:54.960 I was saying, I was thinking we should start a club, 1:17:54.960 --> 1:17:57.160 but maybe we'll just start at you and me. No, No, 1:17:57.320 --> 1:18:00.320 I think we should start it as an alternative to 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:05.000 all the horseship book clubs there are. Okay, so you 1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:09.439 and me can when announce the book to all of 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:12.639 our followers. But listen, I need you to do because 1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:14.920 I do a book club every month for my on 1:18:15.000 --> 1:18:17.400 my Instagram where I post nude with my books. The 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.320 three books that I've read are recommending that month, and 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:22.120 so you would have to be part of that photo shoot. 1:18:22.160 --> 1:18:25.640 Is your girlfriend gonna let you do that? I have 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:29.599 no problem with nudity whatsoever. My girlfriend that's a different issue. 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:34.280 But I have no problem with that. Okay, Well, I 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:36.240 think you, you and I should get it started. I'm 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:40.280 book club with Bob left Sets. I think it has 1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:44.520 to be fair. I we'll talk to Irving about this. Oh, 1:18:44.560 --> 1:18:46.559 I see what you're saying, but I've already started it. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:49.920 So if you're hopping, okay, if I if I jump 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.519 into yours with Bob left sets, is fine. If we 1:18:52.560 --> 1:18:55.800 start a new one that's different, Okay, well I think 1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:59.160 we should okay, right, if we start a new one, okay, Okay, 1:18:59.240 --> 1:19:01.400 how did you get hooked up? You started by playing 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:06.360 poker with Shelley. Shelley, No, no, I I met Irving 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:14.720 at some event for some documentary for Jerry Jerry win Trump. Yeah, yeah, 1:19:14.840 --> 1:19:18.120 I met him there at that screening. Just be stopped there? 1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:22.439 Did you know Jerry Win Trump? But you know, peripherally Okay? 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:25.519 With the interesting thing about Jerry unfortunately died, would have 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:28.479 been alive if he'd been in the metropolis is I 1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:32.880 didn't know certain things that Irving does. I thought he invented, 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:35.760 but they came from the line. You know, Irving, if 1:19:35.800 --> 1:19:39.000 you email I need the doctor I need, he loves 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:41.799 to come through. He loves to make you a doctor's appointment. 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:43.960 I can't tell you how many times he's called and 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:47.320 been like sugarman, can see you Immediately, I'm like, hey, Irving, 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:49.920 I know sugarman too. I can get in faster than 1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:51.360 you can get me. And he's like, no, you can't 1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:54.479 let him feel good about himself. But I did. I 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.720 thought that Irving invented it, not the yes and take 1:19:56.760 --> 1:19:59.320 it to a new place. But Jerry did, They said, 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:01.720 first hour and a half of my day, I made 1:20:01.760 --> 1:20:06.639 a big phone calls getting everybody's appointments. Act said. Irving's 1:20:06.720 --> 1:20:09.080 daughter does the same thing. She gets everybody, all of 1:20:09.120 --> 1:20:12.240 her friends into children's hospital anytime there's a hiccup. Well, 1:20:12.240 --> 1:20:15.040 you know, I had a friend of mine unfortunately had 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:17.479 a brain tumor. And the first thing he says, the 1:20:17.520 --> 1:20:20.800 first thing he says, ask Irving, okay, and we got 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:23.120 the Irving. You know, you get the right doctors. And 1:20:23.160 --> 1:20:25.519 that's how my girlfriend got to Elatrosh. You know that 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:29.240 Erosh is awesome. He's a great doctor. Right. But uh, 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:34.160 you met Irving at the screening of Jerry's movie, then 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:37.000 how do you max it out with Irving? So I 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:40.120 met him. I was doing the red carpet for the pictures. 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:41.800 I had hung out with Jerry a couple of times, 1:20:41.800 --> 1:20:43.640 like he had invited me over with his girlfriend and 1:20:43.680 --> 1:20:45.639 I would like go over for a couple of cocktails 1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:49.040 and we'd all hang out Susie um. And then he, 1:20:49.360 --> 1:20:52.200 you know, his documentary came out and I saw Irving 1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:54.479 on the carpet and he and Shelly approached me, and 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:56.680 they're like, Irving's like, I love you, I love you. 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:58.639 I'm a huge fan. And I was like, oh my god, 1:20:58.680 --> 1:21:01.040 I love your little body, like your a little nugget. 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:03.120 And I was so I thought he was the cutest 1:21:03.120 --> 1:21:05.600 thing I had ever seen. And then they invited me 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:08.200 over like you know, for dinners or whatever, and we 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:11.280 became like, you know, they're they're like family now, but 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:14.400 in the beginning, we were kind of instant family because 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:17.439 I come from such a big family that I I 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:20.360 work well and operate well within families, like I like 1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:23.040 to be the plus one for an entire family. I 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:25.439 like a Jewish family, I like a loud family. I 1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:30.520 like a dysfunctional family, and they are dysfunctional, functionally dysfunctional. 1:21:31.280 --> 1:21:35.080 So uh, then my E contract, he said, you know, 1:21:35.120 --> 1:21:37.920 if you ever need help with business, blah blah blah, 1:21:37.960 --> 1:21:42.200 And I was on Howard Stern years ago, and I 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:44.240 just kind of blurted out that I was done with E. 1:21:44.520 --> 1:21:46.439 Like I'm done. I was going to take a year 1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:49.760 off and go travel the world. And I said it 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.800 on air, but I hadn't said it to E, and 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:55.559 I thought I had because I had thought it, and 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:58.160 I got into a lot of trouble when I got back. 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:00.559 I mean, if you take this industry series slay, which 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:03.439 you know I don't um. They were very mad at me. 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:06.519 He was like, this is a negotiating tactic because your 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:09.080 contract is up. I'm like, it's not. Please don't offer 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:10.960 me any more money, like I'm leaving, I'm done with 1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:14.000 this ship. You got like I just wasn't interested anymore, 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:17.479 and they were, you know, when I came back from 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.719 that Howard Stern interview, I was in New York obviously 1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.920 at the time when we could travel, and I came 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:26.160 back in and my whole staff was upset with me. 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:29.440 You know, I hadn't said anything to anyone about not continuing, 1:22:29.520 --> 1:22:32.559 so I was very insensitive in my kind of thinking. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:35.160 But he was so mad at me, and the heads 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:36.920 of you were so mad at me that I was like, 1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:39.680 I call. I just said, call irving A's off, like 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.280 he'll deal with this. And I didn't want to talk 1:22:42.320 --> 1:22:45.880 to them anymore. And then Irving got involved and from 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:48.879 then on he's been my manager. And now his daughter's 1:22:48.960 --> 1:22:52.639 more my manager because she's kind of taken over um 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:56.120 for the most part, but she does my day to 1:22:56.200 --> 1:22:58.920 day stuff, you know, because Irving is too big to 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:02.280 do that. Well, certainly too big for the but if 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:05.080 you need Irving to go on the big stuff, there's 1:23:05.160 --> 1:23:08.639 literally never been a better manager, and there's no one 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:11.719 can make a better deal and his style. What people 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:13.240 don't know, because you know a lot of people talk, 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:16.640 is they don't understand how funny and charismatic he is. 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:20.280 They just see someone they think here, Don Henley says, 1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:23.720 you know, you know, he's satan whatever. They don't understand 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:26.880 what's really going on as a big teddy bear. And 1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:28.760 I'm sure a lot of people who have do not 1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:31.439 don't have that experience with him, would disagree with me. 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:35.120 But to me and in my life, he's a little 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:37.920 nugget of love, you know, and he's just like you know, 1:23:38.040 --> 1:23:43.200 a godfather to a lot of people. And he doesn't um. 1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:45.000 He is one of those people when you need him 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:46.920 to go in and close the deal, like there is 1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:51.320 no one better to go one better. Yeah. Yeah, So 1:23:51.439 --> 1:23:54.639 he's an innovator for sure. Certainly we could talk about 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:56.720 Irving all day. But let's go back to relationships for 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:58.719 a little bit of If I could stop my fingers 1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:02.160 right now and say, you're in a relationship. The guy 1:24:02.280 --> 1:24:03.800 is good. It's going to last to the end of 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:07.160 your life. Are you in a you out? I'm in? 1:24:07.920 --> 1:24:10.640 You're in? So you are still looking for to you? 1:24:10.680 --> 1:24:13.559 They can't see the air quotes, but Mr Wright, Yeah, 1:24:13.600 --> 1:24:16.479 for sure, but you better bring it, like you better 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.559 bring something to the table because I don't have enough 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:24.559 for both of us. Okay, but you are fully aware 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:29.280 that this has got loaded the statement, but that you 1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:33.439 intimidate men? Yes, I am aware. So what did the 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:38.840 psychiatrists have to say about that? Um? You know, it's 1:24:38.840 --> 1:24:41.720 all it's partly finding a guy that can tell me 1:24:41.800 --> 1:24:44.479 to shut up, you know, that can meet me where 1:24:44.520 --> 1:24:47.000 I am and be like, hey, listen, who can put 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:50.400 me in my place? And it's partly toning my behavior 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:52.640 down a little bit when I'm getting to know a guy, 1:24:52.720 --> 1:24:55.240 but not a lot, because I can't pretend I'm somebody 1:24:55.240 --> 1:24:57.720 that I'm not. I mean, obviously the people you know, 1:24:57.800 --> 1:25:02.960 you can tell from our conversation just now, Uh, or 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:05.799 maybe you can't. But I'm not very good at pretending 1:25:05.840 --> 1:25:09.240 to be something that i'm not. So you're you're authentic, absolutely, 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:13.400 and that is your image, right And I'm waiting for 1:25:13.439 --> 1:25:17.000 someone to come along who can deal with that. Usually 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:20.120 those men are between sixty and eighty years old, Bob. 1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:23.160 They're not my own age, so it's a little bit 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:29.360 more difficult for me. Okay, So since you've had these insights, 1:25:29.479 --> 1:25:34.840 anyone been reasonable? Yeah, there's a reasonable guy right now 1:25:34.880 --> 1:25:39.680 that I am hanging around with. Because I don't know 1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:43.280 who he is, what are his what are his flaws? 1:25:43.320 --> 1:25:47.000 Because everybody's got flaws. Um, well, I'm not going to 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:48.760 go out and I'm not going to talk about his 1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:52.640 flaws because I'm not going to ruin something before it 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:56.320 even gets started. How long has this been going on? Recent? 1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:58.680 Very recent and more just like a like a hook up, 1:25:58.720 --> 1:26:01.439 but somebody who's interesting enough to like you just start. 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:04.679 Let's go back. How did you meet him? Uh? Through 1:26:04.680 --> 1:26:07.280 a friend? A friend said, Oh, I have this friend 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:12.120 who's you might like and he lives he's responsible because 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:15.559 it's during COVID And yeah, we've hung out a few 1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:19.560 times and I like him. Okay, just to stop there. 1:26:19.600 --> 1:26:22.080 He'll end up annoying the living ship out of me. 1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:24.920 That okay, but let's hold that for a second. A 1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:30.160 guy cannot take a recommendation of a date from a woman. 1:26:30.680 --> 1:26:33.280 They always say, oh, she's beautiful, whatever. It's a well 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.880 known fact. Can a woman take a recommendation from a 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:42.040 woman better than from a guy? A gay guy I 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:45.840 would trust more than my gay best friend. I would 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:49.160 trust to set me up with before any of my friends. Um, 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:52.559 but this one, the person who set me up with. 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:54.599 This person is not a good friend. She was just like, oh, 1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:56.559 I met the sky the other nighty single. He's cute, 1:26:56.880 --> 1:26:58.640 like he seems like right up your alley. And I 1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:02.200 was like, oh great, So you know how old is he? 1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:08.120 I think he's my age? And is he even married before? No, 1:27:08.320 --> 1:27:10.880 not that I'm aware. Isn't that you have to get 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:13.240 married before? For I'm about the guys, you have to 1:27:13.240 --> 1:27:15.840 marryhim before forty otherwise they're too set in their ways. 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:18.559 M You could argue that for me too, though I'm 1:27:18.560 --> 1:27:21.240 pretty set in my like, we gonna argue it with you. 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:25.040 That's the next That was the next question. You say, Okay, 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.200 you know someone's going to annoy you. What do we 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:30.760 know someone eventually is going to annoy you. Have you 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:36.839 learned in therapy to subsume that annoyance and say, well, 1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:40.840 he's definitely annoying me, but the goods outweigh the bads. Here, 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.080 I'll tell you what he does that it really attracts me. 1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:46.479 Let's go in the opposite direction. After we have sex. 1:27:46.640 --> 1:27:50.040 The few times we've had sex, he says, I'm leaving 1:27:50.439 --> 1:27:53.519 right away, and that makes me very attracted to him 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:57.120 because I really appreciate him understanding that I need my space. 1:27:57.400 --> 1:27:58.880 He says. I said that to him, and that was 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:00.360 one of the first things I said. I said, if 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:02.080 you come back to my place, you can't sleep over, 1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:05.200 like I don't want to wake up together. I I 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:07.880 have been single for a very long time, and he 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:10.960 really like heard me and respects it every time he 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:15.320 comes around. So I find that a very attractive. That's 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:18.720 one thing. Okay, just so I know, how long do 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:21.479 you have to be involved with its man before they 1:28:21.479 --> 1:28:25.200 can spend the night. It's been a while, so I 1:28:25.240 --> 1:28:28.240 would say a few times. You have to really get 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:30.200 to know somebody a little bit. You have to have 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:32.479 a level of intimacy for somebody to spend the night. 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:35.400 There are things that happened in my bedroom from being 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.040 alone for a long time, Like I get sandwiches in 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:39.760 the middle of the night. Sometimes I eat a piece 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:42.440 of chocolate. If I wake up to go to the bathroom, 1:28:42.640 --> 1:28:44.679 sometimes I'll grab a baby ruth. I have these little 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:48.960 miniature Halloween baby ruths. I have some really gross habits 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:52.120 that I don't want any man to be exposed to. Okay, 1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:55.679 but when someone does spend the night, do you still 1:28:55.720 --> 1:29:00.000 have those behaviors. No, but I haven't spent the night 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:03.240 with somebody since last March. Okay, that's that's only nine 1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:06.360 months ago. My point would be, once someone qualifies to 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:09.640 stay the night, do you then we press your behaviors 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:11.439 or you say you can stay the night. But this 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:15.160 is me. I'm eating the baby ruth, I'm eating the sandwiches, etcetera. No, 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:17.519 I would use that as a barometer to not have 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:19.679 a sandwich or a baby ruth. If somebody was spending 1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:23.360 the night initially in our relationship for the first dozen 1:29:23.439 --> 1:29:26.840 times time, like you know, a couple of times, Oh, eventually, yes, 1:29:26.880 --> 1:29:30.680 I would get back to my old trick. What's so 1:29:31.000 --> 1:29:33.880 what's so offensive of getting getting up in the middle 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:36.439 of the night meeting, Well, I bring it back into 1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:39.519 the bed. My mother had this terrible habit of eating 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:41.920 in bed. So she was German. She would make these 1:29:41.920 --> 1:29:46.960 disgusting liver worsh sandwiches. No, I've never had liver wash, 1:29:46.960 --> 1:29:49.000 and I'm with you. I won't eat that either. But 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:50.720 I do love a bagel, locks and cream trees in 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:54.840 the morning just a half because you know I'm on camera, Okay, 1:29:54.840 --> 1:29:56.680 but just to stop there, can you get a good 1:29:56.680 --> 1:29:59.840 bagel in Los Angeles? I've given up on getting a 1:29:59.840 --> 1:30:02.200 good bagel in Los Angeles. Now I just toast it 1:30:02.320 --> 1:30:05.000 because if you toast it, it disguises the fact that 1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:08.000 it's not that good, right, Okay, But back to the 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:10.160 point of the baby, your mother was eating in bed. 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:12.439 So my mom used to have like and she used 1:30:12.439 --> 1:30:14.360 to have like a thing of candy in her top 1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:17.240 drawer next to her nights in her nightstand, and it 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:19.400 would have like almon Joys. That was my mom's favorite, 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:23.800 baby Ruth Snickers, all types of candy, and it's a 1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:27.040 it's like it's a thing that I I still do. 1:30:27.240 --> 1:30:30.200 I love to eat in bed, like make a sandwich, 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:32.880 get up, get under the covers. Obviously I use a plate, 1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:35.400 but it doesn't do that much good. So eventually there 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:38.400 are crumbs everywhere there, like in the bed. It's like 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:41.320 bringing sand home from the beach. If they're crumbs in 1:30:41.360 --> 1:30:43.759 the bed. Does that gross you out? Or you're fine 1:30:43.760 --> 1:30:45.240 with it? You just don't want to have anybody else 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:47.800 experience it? No? I mean right, I'm fine with it, 1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:51.400 but it's well, it's it's gross. I'm aware that it's gross, 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:53.280 but I can live with it. But I don't want 1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:55.760 to subject another person to it. Okay, other than eating 1:30:55.800 --> 1:30:58.080 in bed and leaving crumbs, what else do you do 1:30:58.120 --> 1:31:01.439 that's gross? Oh? I mean, and I have so many 1:31:01.439 --> 1:31:06.040 gross habits, like um god, I mean, I don't even 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:08.320 know where to begin. I spill things a lot. That's 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:11.200 not a habit. It's just being clumsy and always being 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:14.479 a little bit in a rush. But like I mean, 1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:17.679 I shaved my face with a with an eyebrow raiser. 1:31:17.760 --> 1:31:19.920 I shaved the blonde hairs off my face. I mean, 1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:21.760 that's not something I would be embarrassed about. I would 1:31:21.800 --> 1:31:24.880 do that in front of someone. But what other gross habits? 1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:28.840 I mean, just you know, I don't know. Gross. They 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:33.320 usually are food related, like like me taking a bite 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:36.400 of something and having its spill everywhere and then just 1:31:36.479 --> 1:31:40.080 like putting the cover, like turning the cover over. Okay, 1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:43.600 but are you just w understand analogous to the bed situation. 1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:48.759 Are you afraid of these things being exposed to a 1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:52.360 a man? No, Like, when it comes down to it, 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:56.479 I'll come clean and be like this is that is 1:31:56.520 --> 1:31:59.719 adjusting for the man? No? No, no, no, I'm saying 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:02.960 I'll I'm clean, Like, hey, this is me. This is 1:32:02.960 --> 1:32:05.679 what you're gonna have to be subjected to, you fucking asshole. 1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:08.479 Like that's what I would say. So I'm only I'm 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:12.000 only like shrouding the behavior for a little bit, like 1:32:12.080 --> 1:32:14.880 the runway into a relationship, and then once I've got them, 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:16.360 I'll just be like, hey, by the way, I'm gonna 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:18.679 have a liver worse sandwich, which I'll never do. But 1:32:18.880 --> 1:32:22.439 you know, okay, let you say you're alone forgetting dating. 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:25.720 Are you the type of person like Jerry McGuire has 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:28.280 to constantly be connected with their friends or if you're 1:32:28.320 --> 1:32:31.240 at home alone at night, that is just fine with you. Oh, 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:35.559 I'm totally fine. I have become a recluse during COVID 1:32:35.640 --> 1:32:38.760 to a degree like I enjoy my time alone a 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:42.960 little bit too much. So and if I go to Whistler, 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:45.040 if I do get this gig, which I'm I mean, 1:32:45.040 --> 1:32:47.639 it's looking like I may go. I'm gonna be alone 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:50.439 for three months in Whistler. But you told me your 1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:53.519 your family is coming for Christmas, right, No, they can't 1:32:53.520 --> 1:32:56.840 get into Canada because COVID COVID. Do you know enough 1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:59.800 people there? I know, I know a few people, but 1:33:00.000 --> 1:33:02.519 I'm not I'm not worried about it. I look forward 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:05.720 to it like I look forward. You're going to ski 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:09.360 with an instructor. Yeah, I have buddies to ski with 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:12.240 up there. Okay, well that's well, that solves a lot 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:14.960 of the things. But being in a cold area, granted 1:33:15.000 --> 1:33:17.960 the altitude is not that high and a high out 1:33:18.040 --> 1:33:21.640 to this big issue of suicides and mountain towns. But 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:24.320 if you are in the house and no one comes 1:33:24.360 --> 1:33:27.320 to visit you for three months, that is not daunting. 1:33:27.320 --> 1:33:30.600 In advance, that's not going to happen. Someone will visit me. 1:33:30.760 --> 1:33:32.519 What I have to do is do my two week 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:36.360 quarantine alone there, which yes, that's a little bit depressing 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:39.280 to think about that. I can't leave my house, but whatever, 1:33:39.880 --> 1:33:42.920 at least I have a house. But I'm trying to say, okay, 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:46.000 once those two, no, it's not too daunting. I'm no, 1:33:46.200 --> 1:33:48.240 I'm not going to have anyone not visit me for 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:51.360 three months. That's just not realistic. Well, I'm just saying that, 1:33:51.439 --> 1:33:53.680 it's a hypothetical the way you set it up. If 1:33:53.720 --> 1:33:57.360 you're looking for a blank slate right now, dare you saying, shot, 1:33:57.360 --> 1:33:59.639 I gotta book some people. Are you saying, hey, I'll 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:02.759 play it? Why you're in the fum alone? I'm okay, Yeah, 1:34:02.800 --> 1:34:06.439 I'll play by air and a fum alone I'm okay. Wow. 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:08.479 Do you think that's the result of growing up in 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:12.200 a big family? What's a result of therapy? I used 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:14.160 to have to have people around all the time, like 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:16.120 I used to have people. Yeah, I used to have 1:34:16.479 --> 1:34:18.519 I had a friend lived with me, and my brother 1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:21.040 lived with me. I had my cousin lived with me. 1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:24.200 I was never able to be alone. I had people 1:34:24.280 --> 1:34:28.240 around non stop. So this is in a way like 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:32.000 my first foray into adulthood where I'm alone a lot, 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:36.880 and I have to say I enjoy my own company. 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:41.639 And why not continue therapy. Well, I don't. I didn't 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:46.240 discontinue therapy. I just think therapy is incremental. It's for 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:48.840 when you need it, and you need to go for 1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:52.640 those situations in your life that you're not handling, you know, 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:54.760 in the way that you can. I don't think it 1:34:54.880 --> 1:34:57.360 needs to be ongoing. I don't. I certainly don't have 1:34:57.400 --> 1:35:00.519 the patience to go to ongoing therapy. You know. My 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:03.479 next I think my next step out of therapy was like, Okay, 1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:06.160 let me be open minded with dating and start dating. 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:08.920 And you know, the thought terrified me, but I've done it. 1:35:09.080 --> 1:35:12.200 And so the thing that I've learned, you know, a 1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:15.160 lot about myself is that I'm very reliable, you know, 1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:17.400 like I can count on me. And that's been a 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:21.120 very big lesson for me because I always, you know, 1:35:21.439 --> 1:35:23.599 I always was looking for this male guy to come 1:35:23.640 --> 1:35:25.400 in and sweep me off my feet in the way 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:28.200 that my brother did and my father did, you know, 1:35:28.640 --> 1:35:31.800 I was kind of idealizing them. And now that I'm 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:34.719 grown up, I've taken care of myself this whole time, 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:38.639 Like there's you know, I've made this living, I've created 1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:41.880 these adventures, so I have a lot of reliability in 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:46.559 my own ability to provide for myself and entertain myself, 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:48.800 even if it just comes down to me like I'm 1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:51.560 down with that. Okay, So you're involved in this relatively 1:35:51.600 --> 1:35:59.280 new relationship. No, it's not a relationship. That's an irrelevant 1:35:59.720 --> 1:36:03.200 what he's listening, he's gonna be We're in a relationship. Okay. 1:36:03.320 --> 1:36:07.679 The do you think the shrink might have insights into 1:36:07.720 --> 1:36:10.640 the interaction with this man that might be educational and 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:16.960 beneficial if it becomes a serious relationship. Absolutely, at this 1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:20.080 stage of the game, it's not necessary. Well, I'm someone 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:22.120 who's going I you know, at this point, I still 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:24.360 go two times a week. I went for years three 1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:28.000 times a week, and I learned. I learned. I have 1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:32.000 long history with therapy, and I'm a big believer that, uh, 1:36:32.160 --> 1:36:35.280 the right therapist is key. And like Howard, you know, 1:36:35.360 --> 1:36:38.640 I believe in a in a psychiatrist who can prescribe medication. 1:36:39.160 --> 1:36:41.880 The person I've been with sin and I was in 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:46.280 a really bad place, is radically different from anybody I've 1:36:46.320 --> 1:36:50.840 seen before. Because traditionally people call their shrinking a crisis. 1:36:51.320 --> 1:36:54.080 I would never call my shrink in a crisis. I 1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:57.479 did a few times, all he'll say is it sounds 1:36:57.520 --> 1:37:00.240 like we have a lot to talk about. See a Wednesday. 1:37:00.360 --> 1:37:03.400 So I have learned how to become self reliant. It 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:07.160 is also more akin to analysis. He would never tell 1:37:07.200 --> 1:37:09.360 me what to do, and I've had bad experience before 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:13.000 that with therapists telling me what to do. But the 1:37:13.200 --> 1:37:17.679 gradual things have really changed my life. And maybe as 1:37:17.760 --> 1:37:22.679 a Jew with sometimes aggressive elements of her personality, you'll 1:37:22.760 --> 1:37:27.840 understand this. So he said, what do you want out 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:30.880 of an interaction? And he says, do you know how 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:35.360 many UH clubs are in a golf bag? Do you 1:37:35.400 --> 1:37:39.360 happen to know that? They're fourteen? Okay? And there's the 1:37:39.520 --> 1:37:42.920 driver for long distance and there's the putter. He says, 1:37:43.200 --> 1:37:46.080 you get to choose which club you want to use 1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:48.760 and to get what you want to get out of it. 1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:52.160 Sometimes you're so piste off you don't give a ship 1:37:52.320 --> 1:37:55.040 what the reactions. You whip off the driver and say 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:57.000 fuck you. But I've learned it. There are a lot 1:37:57.000 --> 1:37:59.559 of times persons a prick whatever. And I said, I'm 1:37:59.680 --> 1:38:02.720 dying to tell them her prick. But I'm not. It's 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:04.760 not that I'm afraid to tell them there prick but 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.240 I say, after I tell them a prick, is this 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:10.479 gonna work for me? Or is it going to leave 1:38:10.520 --> 1:38:13.920 me in a lesser position. Well, that's a very selfish 1:38:13.960 --> 1:38:15.680 way of looking at it. I mean, it might be 1:38:15.760 --> 1:38:17.479 nice to just not call somebody a prick because it's 1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:20.559 unnecessary even if they are. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait. 1:38:20.960 --> 1:38:24.680 Everything you're saying is true on the surface. But as 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:27.080 you use the example of talking about the show on 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:32.559 Howard Stern, you're someone who does not intellectualize before she speaks. 1:38:32.960 --> 1:38:36.479 That's not true. That's not true. That's my history. But 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.920 I would say that I'm much better now. Listen, I 1:38:39.960 --> 1:38:42.519 have no problem going off on somebody and not caring 1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:45.439 about the repercussions. But now I look at people in 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:48.200 a softer way, like I feel like people are really struggling. 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:51.479 If someone's just a dick. Yes, I have no problem saying, listen, 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:55.360 you're a dick. But I guess, like you, I was 1:38:55.479 --> 1:38:58.400 always just saying what I felt, and I found that 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:03.719 I could intellectualize and have a better experience. Yeah. Well, 1:39:03.960 --> 1:39:06.400 it's good to say what you feel, but sometimes it's 1:39:06.439 --> 1:39:10.200 only beneficial for you, you know, Like, is it necessary 1:39:10.400 --> 1:39:13.479 always to insert your opinion. I found that it's not 1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:16.799 even though that's the same thing. People make a mistake. 1:39:17.280 --> 1:39:20.720 You can't come to what I believe. I believe that like, oh, 1:39:20.800 --> 1:39:23.120 I'm telling people the truth, I'm doing them a favor. 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:26.040 It's like, m hmm, I'm not necessarily in charge of 1:39:26.120 --> 1:39:30.160 all people. Okay, And do you watch a lot of 1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:35.040 uh streaming television? Yeah? What am I watching right now? 1:39:35.080 --> 1:39:37.600 I just watched The Flight Attendant on HBO Max. I 1:39:37.640 --> 1:39:42.120 watched Are They Undoing? Did you watch that on HBO Max? No, 1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:45.160 I'll tell you why. My girlfriend watched it. I can't 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:47.840 watch anything that they dribble out week by week. Makes 1:39:47.840 --> 1:39:50.360 me crazy. I just like to binge. Yeah, I like 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:52.680 to binge too. I I when I see it like that, 1:39:52.760 --> 1:39:55.759 I'm like, oh ship, So I'm like you. I watched 1:39:55.800 --> 1:39:58.160 The Crown that was That was actually not as good 1:39:58.160 --> 1:40:00.280 as I thought. I thought the other seasons were better. 1:40:00.479 --> 1:40:02.599 I guess the first season turned me off. I thought 1:40:02.640 --> 1:40:05.920 it was like watching paint dry. Other people say it's best, 1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:08.559 but I haven't gone back to it. I'm too far behind. Yeah, 1:40:08.600 --> 1:40:10.840 well you can catch up. You know, it's COVID. You've 1:40:10.840 --> 1:40:13.800 got nowhere to go. Yeah, but you know, I'm busy, 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:15.800 and as I say, there are a lot of great shows. 1:40:15.840 --> 1:40:17.880 We're watching a really good one right now. Do you 1:40:17.880 --> 1:40:21.479 know this show from France, the Bureau. Oh yeah, I 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:23.760 watched that a long time ago. Right. Isn't that an 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:26.360 old show that's on brit Box. Uh, it's part of 1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:28.400 it was on brit Box or five seasons, the most 1:40:28.400 --> 1:40:31.920 recent season. Now it's on Sundance. But it's the French 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:35.719 ci A wait, wait, oh no, I haven't. I'm thinking 1:40:35.720 --> 1:40:39.360 of something else. Say it again. Okay, let's talk about 1:40:39.400 --> 1:40:41.840 streaming recommendations. Wait, wait, wait, say the name. I'm not 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:44.120 going to forget that one. That's the Bureau. Just tell 1:40:44.160 --> 1:40:49.719 me there. Okay, but it's Sunday. Have you watched Happy Valley? Yes? 1:40:50.640 --> 1:40:54.240 I love listen, I love British shows like that. Those 1:40:54.280 --> 1:40:58.439 are my like standard bearer of good television is like 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:02.040 Happy Valley. And God, there's a million British or Scottish 1:41:02.120 --> 1:41:04.599 or Irish detective shows that are just so much better 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:08.920 than the ones we get here. You know, Happy Valley 1:41:09.040 --> 1:41:12.320 was one that was a really good one. Then there 1:41:12.479 --> 1:41:15.200 was the one was Charlotte Rampling. What was that called? 1:41:15.840 --> 1:41:18.599 Remember if she plays the Lawyer. You saw that, Yeah, 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:21.559 she's great, and the other one was still in Stars Guard. 1:41:22.080 --> 1:41:23.840 There's like a bunch of then the other one where 1:41:23.880 --> 1:41:25.920 the guys got the bomb in the train. There's like 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:28.800 six of those. Okay, another blue chip? What about the Bodyguard? 1:41:28.920 --> 1:41:31.559 Did you watch that? Oh? Absolutely good? Yeah, that was 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:33.800 a good one. Okay, here's one for you. This is 1:41:33.840 --> 1:41:38.000 a blue chip. You know, the show Spiral. It's a 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:42.160 French detective show, the most successful show in Europe since 1:41:42.200 --> 1:41:44.519 the first episode is like two thousand and eight. The 1:41:44.560 --> 1:41:48.080 production values are not quite as good, but it increases. 1:41:48.800 --> 1:41:51.639 It's phenomenal. So where do you find these two shows, 1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:56.840 the Bureau and Spiral? What I do? Hey, I told 1:41:56.840 --> 1:42:00.480 you I only binge b I don't believe in the algorithm. 1:42:01.000 --> 1:42:05.600 So before I watch anything, I do a lot of research, okay, 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:09.800 and the definitive research is rotten tomatoes. I will not 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:14.120 watch anything with less than an eight percent uh good reading. 1:42:14.680 --> 1:42:19.519 Life is too short? Yeah, yeah, right, right, roten tomatoes. 1:42:19.560 --> 1:42:20.800 I just want to go on the record and say 1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:23.080 doesn't apply to stand up specials because mine was at 1:42:23.080 --> 1:42:25.680 twelve percent because no one had gone there to rate it. 1:42:26.160 --> 1:42:28.559 So I don't know there are that show. There's definitely 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:30.760 I've looked up shows there are no rating or there's 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:35.719 a credit rating. But the New York Times last year 1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:43.519 put out the forty best streaming Foreign streaming television shows. 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:48.000 Oh yeah, that is my Bible. Unbelievable. The Bureau was 1:42:48.120 --> 1:42:50.920 number three, number one. I don't know if you know. 1:42:51.280 --> 1:42:53.680 It's like Irving, Irving. I turned Irving onto Fauda. You 1:42:53.680 --> 1:42:58.080 watch Fauda. Well, these some of these is really show. 1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:02.280 You know. Here's a show, you know, on the verge 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:06.519 of Hannaka. Uh the are you gonna light the candles? H? No, 1:43:06.720 --> 1:43:13.120 I'm not No, I'm not either Unorthodox. Did you watch Unorthodox? Okay, 1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:20.040 of course I watched Unorthodox? Did you watch shrew Geen? Uh? No? Okay, 1:43:20.080 --> 1:43:22.280 this is a really good one. It's on Amazon. S 1:43:22.400 --> 1:43:25.839 R g U I am. And it's about these modern 1:43:26.040 --> 1:43:32.040 Orthodox people in Jerusalem. They're they have regular jobs, they're 1:43:32.080 --> 1:43:36.639 obeying all the you know, uh prescriptions, but they're looking 1:43:36.680 --> 1:43:39.880 for Mr. And mss right. One is a doctor. One 1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:44.960 is this It's really good? S aren't you? S s 1:43:45.080 --> 1:43:48.680 r U g I mka are you g Well? I'm 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:52.240 glad you spelled it. What does that spell something in Hebrew. 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:56.080 I can't remember exactly, but if we go to the top, 1:43:56.360 --> 1:44:00.320 put spiral. Now jumping to the other side, the number 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:03.559 one show they had was called Prisoners of War. It 1:44:03.680 --> 1:44:08.200 is an ordeal. It's slowered first, but it is utterly amazing. 1:44:09.320 --> 1:44:12.479 But but you're still not telling me where to find 1:44:12.520 --> 1:44:17.599 these Okay, prisoners of War. I believe it's on Hulu okay. 1:44:17.720 --> 1:44:20.439 And then what about the Bureau Bureau is on a 1:44:20.479 --> 1:44:25.040 Sundance Okay. And then there's another great French show called 1:44:25.040 --> 1:44:28.280 a French Village, which is about you know, I don't 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:30.640 know if you're like me, I can never get enough Nazis. 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:34.959 But uh, it's the Nazis taking over a town in France. 1:44:35.120 --> 1:44:39.760 Now listen, Irving likes very fast paced stuff, so I 1:44:39.880 --> 1:44:41.639 have to ask you, there are some of these things 1:44:41.640 --> 1:44:45.880 that are slower paced like Irving. I'm not like Irving. 1:44:45.920 --> 1:44:50.840 Irving has an attention span of a mosquito. I don't. Okay, 1:44:50.880 --> 1:44:54.320 that is a cornucopia of shows. Oh, and what is 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:58.280 the Icelandic show. I've seen that Icelandic show, But wait, 1:44:58.320 --> 1:45:00.800 what's the one that takes place in at that French 1:45:00.840 --> 1:45:03.920 ski resort at the on that beautiful lake and the 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:06.440 background and it's a detective show, but it's the backdrop 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:09.080 is that beautiful lake? Oh you're talking about Top of 1:45:09.080 --> 1:45:11.519 the Lake. No, no, no, not Top of the Lake. 1:45:11.600 --> 1:45:14.479 That was good too, though. Uh we're not talking about 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:17.720 the Avalanche movie which was remade. No no, no, not 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:20.839 that man. You're talking about the series, a detective series 1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:23.760 and it takes place in a French town on a 1:45:23.840 --> 1:45:26.800 lake and it's called Lake something and it's not coming 1:45:26.800 --> 1:45:29.639 to me right now. It was great. You know, I've 1:45:29.680 --> 1:45:33.479 really watched almost did you watch The Returned which was 1:45:33.520 --> 1:45:36.800 also on That's not something I really highly recommended. Also 1:45:36.880 --> 1:45:40.360 another Israeli show with a less than stellar ending, but 1:45:40.560 --> 1:45:45.840 good on Netflix, When Heroes Fly. Oh I've never heard 1:45:45.880 --> 1:45:49.840 of that. Yeah, when Heroes Fly. Okay, well these are 1:45:49.880 --> 1:45:53.160 a lot of good recommendation. Thank you, Bob. I got 1:45:54.560 --> 1:45:57.200 this is my thing because I don't want to waste 1:45:57.240 --> 1:46:01.479 a minute on television. Okay, I have to zero just 1:46:01.520 --> 1:46:04.080 like with you and the drugs, I have to zero 1:46:04.200 --> 1:46:06.639 in on what people's tastes are. I'll tell you two 1:46:06.800 --> 1:46:09.519 other shows that are so good but may not be 1:46:09.680 --> 1:46:13.760 up your ally. One is called Bonus Family, on Hulu. 1:46:13.920 --> 1:46:18.560 It's a sweetish show about a blended family. On the surface, 1:46:19.040 --> 1:46:23.440 not interesting, but in reality it's about all the interactions 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:28.160 of the different families. On the same tip, there's the 1:46:28.360 --> 1:46:31.519 A word on Amazon, which is you ever been to 1:46:31.520 --> 1:46:36.439 the Lake District in England? In England? Yeah, yeah, I'm 1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:38.920 in Manchester multiple times. They're in the Lake District. It 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:42.439 is so beautiful. This is about people live in the 1:46:42.520 --> 1:46:45.559 Lake District find out their kid is autistic. You know 1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:50.800 these are This is humanity involving relationships. But so Spiral 1:46:51.200 --> 1:46:55.200 is a cop show better than any American cops show. Okay, 1:46:55.640 --> 1:46:58.880 and what is Spiral on Spiral? I think the first 1:46:58.880 --> 1:47:00.559 season is free on am is on then you have 1:47:00.600 --> 1:47:05.559 to buy Mega Hurts MHz, although it tells you right 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:08.320 there what you have to do. All right, Well, I 1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:10.760 have a lot of assignments from this podcast. I have 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:13.120 a lot of books and television to get. Okay, as 1:47:13.120 --> 1:47:16.280 I say, I don't want to ultimately overload you, but 1:47:17.000 --> 1:47:19.960 if you can, I'm the most reachable person ever because 1:47:19.960 --> 1:47:23.200 my email addresses my email address. If you email me, 1:47:23.520 --> 1:47:26.719 I'll give you a more comprehensive thing with the books 1:47:26.760 --> 1:47:29.439 and the shows. But the two books I recommended, etcetera. 1:47:29.680 --> 1:47:32.280 As I say, there are some other books this guy 1:47:32.360 --> 1:47:38.040 Gary Steinart, Oh, Gary Steinart, Super Beautiful loved Suit, super 1:47:38.080 --> 1:47:42.400 trad love story. How did you like that? Um, that's 1:47:42.439 --> 1:47:44.920 not my style of book either, But I I can 1:47:44.960 --> 1:47:50.000 appreciate that. But I don't know. Super sad true love Story. 1:47:50.800 --> 1:47:52.960 I've read it. I thought it was overrated. But the 1:47:53.000 --> 1:47:55.840 most recent one, I've read all of them because is 1:47:55.960 --> 1:47:59.080 so good. The guy goes on it's an investment baker 1:47:59.400 --> 1:48:02.679 who goes on ha gira over the whole country looking 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:05.400 for his old girlfriend and stuff like that. As I say, 1:48:05.560 --> 1:48:07.680 it's in a similar stole, but this works or the 1:48:07.720 --> 1:48:10.200 other one, I don't. I think I rean passed. Did 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:15.040 you read all of kit Ridge? The woman in Maine 1:48:15.080 --> 1:48:18.519 who's icon of clastic didn't know. I have not read that. 1:48:18.880 --> 1:48:21.759 Put this like this is well known't you? It's olive 1:48:22.200 --> 1:48:24.840 and you spelled kit Ridge. I know how to spell that. 1:48:24.960 --> 1:48:29.479 I've seen it. K I T T E R. As 1:48:29.479 --> 1:48:32.320 many people would say, ari e oh, I say, okay, 1:48:32.320 --> 1:48:35.439 I didn't notice. Okay, that's that's just a blue chip, 1:48:35.840 --> 1:48:39.160 you know, like some like Happy Valley. Everybody loved that 1:48:39.240 --> 1:48:42.040 and it's not low brow. Oh I read happy that. 1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:44.479 Oh you oh you mean that's a show? No? No, 1:48:44.680 --> 1:48:47.240 there was also for a funk the HBO Show with 1:48:47.280 --> 1:48:51.599 Francis McDorman. But you want to read the book, the 1:48:51.680 --> 1:48:54.960 only book. There's only a couple of appreciate you using 1:48:54.960 --> 1:48:57.920 that kind of language, Bob. Okay, there's only a couple 1:48:57.960 --> 1:49:01.719 of movie these that are better than the book because 1:49:01.720 --> 1:49:05.520 of Dylan selling his stuff. Do you ever read any 1:49:05.640 --> 1:49:11.679 of of Michael Chayban's books. They're really highly reviewed. First 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:14.800 one first one is Mysteries of Pittsburgh. Then there's the 1:49:14.840 --> 1:49:16.880 one about the Golem and all this stuff. I can't 1:49:16.880 --> 1:49:19.000 get into him, but I've read a lot of them. 1:49:19.160 --> 1:49:23.679 Wonder Boys. The movie is better than the book, which 1:49:23.720 --> 1:49:27.200 is the Forrest Gump. I think the movie was better 1:49:27.200 --> 1:49:30.080 than the book or tantum out to the book because 1:49:30.080 --> 1:49:32.479 they executed that very well. Did you read the book 1:49:32.479 --> 1:49:35.080 before or after you saw the movie? I read the 1:49:35.120 --> 1:49:40.679 book after and then Jaws I think also was a screenplay. Yeah, 1:49:40.760 --> 1:49:42.960 I guess this is you know, he this is guy 1:49:43.040 --> 1:49:44.800 is a highly revered you know, it's real. I hate 1:49:44.800 --> 1:49:47.920 to use the term l like literature. Okay, We've covered 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:52.200 a lot of subjects. We've covered skiing, We've covered books, 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:55.719 We've covered irving, We've watched TV show, We've talked about 1:49:55.720 --> 1:49:59.080 your relationships. I don't want to be overbearing here, but 1:49:59.240 --> 1:50:02.200 it's fascin eating to talk to someone who's intelligent, has 1:50:02.240 --> 1:50:05.640 an opinion and is not afraid to verbalize it, and 1:50:05.760 --> 1:50:11.280 is also unafraid to challenge somebody. So uh, I think 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:13.360 we've come to the end of the feeling we've known. 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:16.599 But I want to thank you so much for doing 1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:19.479 this well. It was a pleasure of spending two hours 1:50:19.520 --> 1:50:22.680 with you. This is the longest podcast I've ever done. Well, 1:50:22.720 --> 1:50:24.240 As I say, that's why I would stop. We could 1:50:24.240 --> 1:50:26.040 go for another couple of hours, like Joe Rogan, but 1:50:26.080 --> 1:50:28.559 I don't think. I think they'll be diminishing returns for 1:50:28.600 --> 1:50:32.240 our I think so too, especially if you yeah, I'm 1:50:32.240 --> 1:50:33.920 gonna go in there. I'm just gonna take a shower 1:50:33.920 --> 1:50:36.679 and stead until next time. This is Bob left Things