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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Projects.

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Speaker 1: My guestimator is Chelsea's member, who has a new special

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Speaker 1: on HBO matic evolution. Chelsea. Good to have you, Hi,

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Speaker 1: get to see you. How are you? I'm okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: In the special, you essentially say that the election of

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Speaker 1: Trump drove you to therapy. So I must ask you

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Speaker 1: post election, where are you at intellectually and emotionally relative

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Speaker 1: to who got elected, the temperature of the country, etcetera. Um,

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Speaker 1: pretty much, I'm I'm ready to celebrate. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: skiing for about three months straight to celebrate this victory

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Speaker 1: by Biden, and if we win the Georgia Senate race,

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Speaker 1: I might go skiing for six months straight. I just

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Speaker 1: have to find extra snow. Wait, wait, let's switch gears completely,

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Speaker 1: because that one of the reasons I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to you is I'm a really big skier and I

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Speaker 1: know you're a skier, So have funny, are you literally

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Speaker 1: booked for three months? Well? I bought a house in Whistler, Canada,

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Speaker 1: uh this year before, well before the election, just in

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Speaker 1: case the worst happened, and I bought it out of

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Speaker 1: fear and I was planning on going there for all

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Speaker 1: of ski season, but then you know, we're not allowed

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Speaker 1: into Canada because of COVID, So I am trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get their work wise to film

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Speaker 1: something there so that I can spend three months in

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Speaker 1: a less COVID rampant ski area, which is Whistler. Have

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Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time in Whistler. Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: go there every year for my for Christmas with my family,

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Speaker 1: and then I usually go for my birthday. Well, which

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Speaker 1: is what time of year, February. Well, I will tell

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Speaker 1: you I've been to Whistler many times and I only

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Speaker 1: hit it right once, which was two years ago. Because

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Speaker 1: the altitude is so low at the bottom. I've been

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Speaker 1: there when it's rained, and I've been there when it's

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Speaker 1: rained the whole time i've been there. Oh yeah, that sucks.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they do get rain and Whistler, but when

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Speaker 1: it's not raining, it is the most beautiful mountain to

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Speaker 1: ski on and it's massive, so I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Plus it's Canada, and you know, Canadians are pretty cool

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Speaker 1: about everything. You know, they don't start fights, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like you're dealing with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of white male energy. I go to Canada quite

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Speaker 1: a lot myself, and was scheduled to go before the shutdown.

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Speaker 1: Where is your house? Relatively speaking? In Whistler, it's a

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Speaker 1: ski and ski out is what it is. So where

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Speaker 1: is it Queakside? Is it? Whistler Village? Is a black Home?

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Speaker 1: I'd prefer not to say, quite frankly. I mean I've

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Speaker 1: had a couple of affairs with ski instructors up there,

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Speaker 1: so I don't really want to be on the record. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know locals wh I ski with up there, and

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Speaker 1: they'll only ski Black Home. So where do you like

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Speaker 1: to ski? Yeah? I agree with that Black Home is

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Speaker 1: where it's at. But I love every kind of skiing.

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Speaker 1: I don't need it to be a snowstorm. I don't

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Speaker 1: need it to be you know, like, I'm not into

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Speaker 1: any particular kind. I just like to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of big canvas to work with. And how good a

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Speaker 1: skier are you? Um? I'm pretty good. You probably are

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Speaker 1: a little bit better than may just based on our age.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the most perfect skier, but I'm a big daredevil,

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Speaker 1: so I like to take a lot of risks, like

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Speaker 1: I like Helly skiing and cat skiing? Okay, do you

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Speaker 1: ski Spanky's Ladder at uh in Black Home? In Black Home,

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Speaker 1: I have gone down Spanky's ladder once once. No, no, No,

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Speaker 1: Spanky's Ladder I do all the time. But there's another one.

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Speaker 1: There's a peak above that that's even harder than I've

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Speaker 1: done once. But yes, I've done Spanky's Ladder for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So where do you like to ski on Black Comb? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean what the runs? I mean, I just everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of what the runs that I like

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Speaker 1: in this moment, but I mean other places I like

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Speaker 1: to ski. I love park City just because of the

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Speaker 1: vibe of Park City and the options of going to Alter,

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Speaker 1: snow Mass or Snowbird. Sorry, but Aspen is also incredible skiing,

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Speaker 1: and I always kind of had that feeling about Aspen, like,

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Speaker 1: three days. It was incredible. It was March. I think

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Speaker 1: But I'll ski anywhere. I love to ski, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not you know where I'm not going to ski Vermont. Okay,

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Speaker 1: did you grow up skiing in Vermont? I did. It

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Speaker 1: One day I was like, hey, let's go skiing. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: And it was the first time I had skied on

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Speaker 1: I took skiing a lot more seriously. Okay, so use

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Speaker 1: what age were you when you started skiing? Oh, like

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Speaker 1: but Vermont skiing, you know, ice cold. Okay, But before

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Speaker 1: you went to the comedy festival, did you continue to

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Speaker 1: essentially ski every year? No? No, I probably went like

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Speaker 1: which was the same set of circumstances like spray, beautiful

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Speaker 1: warm weather skiing. And then I started to ski again,

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Speaker 1: and then I had a really bad ski accident in Zermat, Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: tore her ra c L. Literally what happened, because conventionally

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Speaker 1: you tore yrs? No, it was it was a blur.

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Speaker 1: But I was, first of all, congratulations and having a girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge victory in and of itself. Okay, long

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Speaker 1: time all the what the girlfriend came with? Are you

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Speaker 1: grew up. We had a house in Manchester, Vermont, which

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Speaker 1: at Middlebury College. We had our own ski area, which

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Speaker 1: then after college, I spent two years in Little Cottonwood Canyon,

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Speaker 1: Alton Snowbird and I used to pooh pooh Veil, saying

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Speaker 1: So that is really pretty good. And now I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to remember what I was responding to You were saying,

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Speaker 1: we know what my girlfriend came. Yeah, I know, but

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Speaker 1: there was something else. Oh uh, it was had to

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Speaker 1: have the girlfriends who came with that benefit. But you

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Speaker 1: This was before I became a great scare. I just

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Speaker 1: I go in the accents every time they go. Next time,

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Speaker 1: You're like, it was PTSD from intergenerational PTSD. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: will not be going back to Zirmant, Switzerland. They were

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Speaker 1: After that, I was dating a guy who met me

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Speaker 1: almost got her losing the lesson. But it's like a

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Speaker 1: cruise ship. The lifts are slow, but the power never

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Speaker 1: gets skied out. It's a really interesting experience which will

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Speaker 1: save So have you been to everywhere in the United States?

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Speaker 1: Like tell your ride some valley, etcetera. I've been to

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Speaker 1: Sunda Ali, I've been to tell you, I haven't been

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Speaker 1: to like Crested Butte, I haven't been to a couple

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Speaker 1: of Steamboat I've never been there, um, but my big place,

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Speaker 1: I like park City because of the variety, obviously, so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of my go to if I don't go

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Speaker 1: to Whistler. I used to go to tell you ride

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Speaker 1: every year, and then they stopped getting snow and that's

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Speaker 1: when I pivoted my family vacation to Whistler. That was

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Speaker 1: a good idea because I haven't need to tell you

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Speaker 1: ride right the last time I was here, But they

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Speaker 1: got a huge snow problem. I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of park City. You ski a park City or Deer Valley.

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Speaker 1: I like park City just because my guide is there.

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Speaker 1: But we spend going We go to Snowbird and Alta

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Speaker 1: every other day, you know, so I like the You

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Speaker 1: know that as long as you can do that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: But let's get back to the politics. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Biden wins, although the Republicans don't seem to want to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge them. No matter how many Republicans tell them that

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Speaker 1: there was no election fraud, they don't seem to want

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Speaker 1: to accept the obvious, which is very ironic considering how

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Speaker 1: much they thought everybody else was a bad loser when

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Speaker 1: Trump won the first time. But yeah, but the rules

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Speaker 1: don't apply to them. What do you think about the

451
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Speaker 1: seventy odd million who voted for Trump? Um, I think

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do, and I

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Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden is probably a really good candidate

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Speaker 1: to get that done. I think that there's a we

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Speaker 1: need to be unified, and I think that he can

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Speaker 1: appeal to all sorts of people, you know, in ways

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Speaker 1: that uh, in ways that other presidents haven't and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: he speaks the right language. So I'm optimistic after this,

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Speaker 1: the last month of behavior by Trump and if people

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Speaker 1: seeing what a sore loser he is and the COVID

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Speaker 1: and everything that he's bungled, I'm optimistic that people are

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Speaker 1: being picked off. What I am concerned about as these

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Speaker 1: you know, disinformation misinformation campaigns that places like Facebook allow

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Speaker 1: spreading of misinformation regarded conspiracy theories and you know, falsehoods

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Speaker 1: about COVID and that it's not you know, that it's

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Speaker 1: a hoax. Like, I'm really concerned that half of our

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Speaker 1: population believes a different set of facts or a set

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Speaker 1: of truths which are not facts or truth. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: I guess our job is like human beings moving forward

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Speaker 1: is not to chastise those people for believing in conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 1: but just demonstrate and show them like by humanity, like

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Speaker 1: how the how wrapped up and wrong their information is.

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Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily telling somebody, oh, you're an idiot,

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Speaker 1: you're stupid. It's like, hey, why don't you let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the fact that you guys think there's a pedophilia

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Speaker 1: ring being run out of the downstairs basement of a

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Speaker 1: pizza parlor, and when you look into that pizza parlor,

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Speaker 1: they don't even have a fucking basement. It's like these

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Speaker 1: people who believe in these theories couldn't have made that

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Speaker 1: next step to look and see if the pizza parlor

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Speaker 1: that they think the Clintons are running a pedophilia ring

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Speaker 1: out of had a basement. Let's break down a few things.

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Speaker 1: On this last show of the season, Bill Maher said,

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Speaker 1: it's really a cult, and we need Katherine Oxenburg like

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Speaker 1: trying to get her daughter India out of Nexium. So

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Speaker 1: also the Democrats, and I'm a big lefty, far left

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Speaker 1: of Biden. The Democrats are always playing defense while the

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Speaker 1: Republicans set the agenda. So I believe This is one

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Speaker 1: of the problems in Hollywood in general. Everybody's always apologizing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so when Hillary talked about the deplorables, she should have

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Speaker 1: owned it. People should own their statements. So the question becomes,

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Speaker 1: by talking to these people regularly, can we really convince

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Speaker 1: them other? No, I mean you you may not be

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Speaker 1: able to convince an entire swath of a population, but

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Speaker 1: you can pick off people here and there, and then

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Speaker 1: that spreads, you know, like it's you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to humanity. As far as

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned, this is like a human rights election. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about people who have you know what, what

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Speaker 1: white people have to do a to make up for

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Speaker 1: the bad behavior that we've demonstrated since this country began.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is an opportunity for us to be like,

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Speaker 1: for us to spread the messaging for people who are

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Speaker 1: passionate about politics and about progressive movements. It's this is

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Speaker 1: the time. We don't want another like, you know, Obama

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Speaker 1: administration just for Democrats because that was just dancing in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the road because he was up against

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Speaker 1: such racism. But we can achieve that with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you on pushing him as left as possible,

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Speaker 1: because we're trying to ameliorate this old guard of democratic moderates,

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Speaker 1: and the future is forward, like young people are done

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Speaker 1: with this climate bullshit that we've given them, so we

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Speaker 1: have to act progressively and act like it's an emergency

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Speaker 1: situation because it is. So I'm with you on going

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Speaker 1: left and on convincing people. I'm never gonna stop trying.

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Speaker 1: You know, people curse me out and tell me they're

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Speaker 1: gonna kill me or that I'm a dumb whore blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah all the time on social media, and I

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Speaker 1: don't give a ship because every once in a while

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Speaker 1: you connect with somebody who doesn't agree with you, and

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you show them a

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Speaker 1: little humanity and they're like, hey, I'm sorry I spoke

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Speaker 1: to you that way, I'm sorry that I called you

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Speaker 1: a whore, and I'm like, great, okay, now can we

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Speaker 1: talk about like what what are our other differences? And

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Speaker 1: some people are just really alone, and we have to

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Speaker 1: have a little bit more compassion for how people get

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Speaker 1: interested in following conspiracy theories in the first place, Like

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Speaker 1: you know, it starts much earlier than that if you're

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Speaker 1: that vulnerable to too false ideas. Okay, now you mentioned

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Speaker 1: on Howard that you're a book big reader of books.

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Speaker 1: Did you read the book? It was raised as one

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Speaker 1: of the top ten of the year, called a children's

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Speaker 1: Bible by Lydia Millen. No, I did not, Well, this

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Speaker 1: was book, you know, it's one of these books that

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Speaker 1: sort of, you know, in a world where everybody is

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Speaker 1: full of ship I only like to recommend slam dunks.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about this book when you finish it,

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Speaker 1: it's about uh younger and older generation sharing a vacation

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Speaker 1: house and then a apocalyptic event happens, a storm. And

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Speaker 1: what it really shows how we have to transfer power

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Speaker 1: to the young people. The older people just dicking around

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Speaker 1: and about lifestyle, and it's the young people who know

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Speaker 1: what all the issues are. Now. I was first for

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Speaker 1: Warren before she compromised. Once she compromised herself on Medicare

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Speaker 1: for walls, once she blinked, I knew she was done.

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Speaker 1: Then I went back to Bernie. Now, needless to say,

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Speaker 1: I think that the Democrats, you know, they lined up

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Speaker 1: behind Biden. I am not optimistic. I'm a big believer

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Speaker 1: in AOC those two. You have to throw the long

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Speaker 1: ball to get people excited. And I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: I'm anti Biden, etcetera, but being Jew, I am pessimistic.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Georgia. Do you think we'll pick up

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Speaker 1: those two seats? I honestly don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Listen, it's possible. We flipped it blue, so

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Speaker 1: it is possible. It is possible. Unfortunately, you have to

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Speaker 1: win by fifty point one percent, and the Republicans were

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Speaker 1: way ahead, but you never really know. It was Stacy

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Speaker 1: Abrams of course getting people to vote. But let's say

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Speaker 1: hypothetically the Senate remains in Republican control. Isn't it sort

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Speaker 1: of hard to be optimistic. Yeah, that becomes a different

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Speaker 1: story moving forward. Uh, and then Joe Biden really has to, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, figure out a way. You know. Let's listen,

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden have known each other for

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Speaker 1: fifty years. Mitch McConnell is the biggest piece of ship

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Speaker 1: that I can think of right now. But they have

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Speaker 1: a relationship, and if anyone is going to get anything

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Speaker 1: done with him, it would be Joe Biden, not Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Not Barack Obama, Joe Biden. I like that you're speaking

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Speaker 1: English because in you know, amongst the established Democrats, you

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Speaker 1: can't say anything negative about Obama and I have nothing

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Speaker 1: negative to say about him or his morals. But he

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Speaker 1: was so fearful of appearing the angrily angry black men

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Speaker 1: that he constantly, you know, was trying to make peace

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Speaker 1: with Republicans who never had any intention to do so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, listen, you know that's whose fault is that?

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Speaker 1: Not his? I mean, they're a bunch of racist white assholes.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the old Guard. It's like the

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Speaker 1: death cough of racism is our Senate. I mean, have

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Speaker 1: you ever watched any of these Senate hearings? And look

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Speaker 1: how old every fucking person is. You're like, excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Is that they're supposed to be? Like remember when people

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Speaker 1: went into politics to represent their community for two years

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Speaker 1: or four years and then they went back to their

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Speaker 1: regular jobs because it wasn't supposed to be a professional career.

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Speaker 1: Being a politician. Was supposed to be like, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go represent my neighbors, my community. And now we

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Speaker 1: have all this money in politics and everybody's just full

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Speaker 1: of ship, you know, and you're up against money and

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Speaker 1: you can't fight that. So there is hope with this

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Speaker 1: administration to at least start discussing getting money out of politics,

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Speaker 1: like that's something Kamala cares about strongly, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that Biden has been a little bit resistant to discuss.

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Speaker 1: But I think we're going to get there because he

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Speaker 1: has to. He has to be accountable to so many

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Speaker 1: groups of marginalized communities right now. You know, he can't

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Speaker 1: get away with any funny stuff right now. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think the problem you reference is the boomers. The boomers

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Speaker 1: were always the largest population bulge, and even though they're

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Speaker 1: out of touch and I'm a boomer myself, they feel

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Speaker 1: entitled to rule. We've certainly seen this over the last

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Speaker 1: twenty five years. With tech. They don't even understand what

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Speaker 1: is going on. You know, as we speak, their suing Facebook,

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Speaker 1: but they still can't understand what is going on there.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Newsom is an empty suit? Are good?

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Speaker 1: I me, And I don't know how you feel that,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's bungled this COVID response for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's no straight messaging. He bowed for economic

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Speaker 1: pressure in the beginning now we're rolling back. Then it

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Speaker 1: hit California harder, like it just didn't make any sense. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, closing dining at this point, it's we're all

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Speaker 1: at our own risk, right, And I understand the hospitals

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Speaker 1: are being overwhelmed, and then when that happens, we have

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Speaker 1: to shut down the businesses. But like we're not giving

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Speaker 1: people stimulus and we're also telling them they can't work.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't work. Well, yeah, you are at the root

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Speaker 1: of the matter. I mean, certainly in Canada they've done

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Speaker 1: a good job. We have to give the people money.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have the billionaires and the corporations. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the corporations took all the money in the

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Speaker 1: last fucking hand out. Exactly, people can't pay their rent.

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Speaker 1: What do they expect to happen? And economically, it's been

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Speaker 1: proven that by opening the country, the public won't go

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Speaker 1: It's like the movie theaters. Public won't go there. It's

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Speaker 1: too scared. So you know, you know, Trump's opinion was, well,

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Speaker 1: open up everything and it will work. Not only does

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Speaker 1: it not work on a medical level, We've seen that

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Speaker 1: in Sweden people are too afraid to go out. Well,

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Speaker 1: some people don't give a ship and they'll go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: But but the thing is, well, not everybody dies, that's

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Speaker 1: the problem. So people don't take it so seriously because

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Speaker 1: they think they're strong enough and they're not going to

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00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: be affected by it in a dealiterarious way. But what

634
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: I would say is like, you know, thinking that we

635
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: should shut everything down for once our hospitals are like

636
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: at MAX, Yes, absolutely we should shut everything down. People.

637
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: We can't abuse them. They've been abused for a year now,

638
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: We've abused all of our hospital and frontline workers. But uh,

639
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: I would say until that MAX is hit, it is

640
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: so important. Like for people who think I just want

641
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: to shut everything down, I don't want anything open. It's

642
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: like it's a very elitist mentality to think because you

643
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: can survive for the next six months without any income,

644
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: that everything should be shut down. Some people need to

645
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: fucking work. Most people need to work week to week

646
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to week to week. So it's not it's not helpful,

647
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, especially when we're not getting they're not getting

648
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: these stimulus packages people who need them, you know. So

649
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: it is like, you know, it's a working it's a

650
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: nice thing for people to say, oh, we have to

651
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: shut everything down. But it's like, we'll look at your life.

652
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Is it gonna affect you in that way? Well, let's

653
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: talk about you specifically. How seriously have you taken quarantine? Um? Well,

654
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I filmed my special during COVID If that gives you

655
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: any insight in in their social distaning kind of like

656
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a Chappell show, but on a day by day basis

657
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: when you're not working and most people are not working. Well,

658
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I wear a mask wherever I go. I

659
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: bide by, so I wear a mask when I'm outside

660
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: taking a walk, just like as an example to other

661
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: neighbors and stuff like, hey, I take this seriously, so

662
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: should you? Kind of, But I'm pretty good. I definitely

663
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of people coming to my house, Like outside,

664
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: I have social gatherings with three or four friends, Like

665
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: my girlfriends are coming over tonight, but we'll sit outside

666
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: distanced and we'll have cocktails. And will you wear them

667
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: masks when you're not actually sipping your cocktail? Uh? Yeah,

668
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: we did. We have been the last a few times

669
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: because of the numbers spiking so as much. Um. I

670
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: have also a home test kit because I have white

671
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: privilege and I am wealthy, so I can test anybody

672
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: who comes to my house, and I test myself all

673
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the time also, so we can get a little bit

674
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: slower because there's issues as to the accuracy of that.

675
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: And there's also a supposedly new one that's very accurate.

676
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: So how long have you had this, kid? Tell us

677
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more about it. Mine's the que Health one.

678
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I just got it, so it's supposed to be ninety accurate. Yeah,

679
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: so it's the new one, right, Yeah, So I've I took,

680
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: I ruined three tests trying to figure out how to

681
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: use it, but I finally did. And now, I mean, listen,

682
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: a test isn't a free I want to be very specific.

683
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: So how much did this unit cost? Back? Five ground okay?

684
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: And how does it work? They give you a cartridge

685
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: which is like the bulk of the price. I think

686
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: it's like eight hund dollars. Then each test is like

687
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: two hundred and something dollars. It comes down to um

688
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: and then every time you use a test, it's like

689
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: it's hooked up to your You download the app on

690
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: your phone, you keep your phone by the cartridge, you

691
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: put your you do your nasal swab in each nostril

692
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: five times and then you plug it into the cartridge

693
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: and in twenty minutes it will give you your result. Wow.

694
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Do you know anybody who's died? Mm hmmm directly? Do

695
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: I know anybody who's died from COVID No, not no,

696
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: no one directly. But I've friends, parents and stuff, but

697
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: no one. Unfortunately I do. Uh. But also going back

698
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: to Howard Stern, we were very open. You were talking

699
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: about the issue of a nascent relationship in dating. How

700
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: do you addressed that during COVID era. At first, I

701
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: have them come over and sit in my backyard while

702
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: I interview them for thirty minutes, and then if I

703
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: decide that I would like to move forward with some

704
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: sexual activity, I asked them about their COVID seriousness, what

705
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: they do, and obviously at this point they're motivated by

706
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: other things, so who knows if they're telling me the truth.

707
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: But I give everyone a COVID test as soon as

708
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: they get here. And while that's not a hundred percent safe,

709
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean a hundred set fool proof, it's still you know,

710
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I just I just do that. But I mean, you know,

711
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't date a ton, but I definitely have started

712
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: dating because I'm going out of my mind. Okay, what

713
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: is the Chelsea test? Well, first of all, you can't

714
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: wear shoes or a belt that is going to annoy me,

715
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: right like I can look at a pair of shoes

716
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: and be completely turned off. Ok just different gradations. If

717
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: someone comes in with you know, the generic term is

718
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: nikes or converse, is that a turn offer? Is it

719
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: still possible? That's possible, that's cool, that's fine. And what

720
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: if they don't have a belt at all? Even better?

721
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: I prefer not to deal with the belt. Okay, there's

722
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: a sexual innuendo there will Okay for you, there was

723
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: not for me. Okay, let me ask you. Can you

724
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: look at somebody just like you can instantly look at

725
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: some one and tell them what drugs they should be on.

726
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: Can you instantly look at somebody and it's thumbs upper,

727
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: thumbs down? Yeah for sure. But let me say this,

728
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: A sense of humor can make up for a lot,

729
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: right Like if you're funny or and not even necessarily funny,

730
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: but well yeah kind of you have to be funny.

731
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Just getting the jokes sometimes isn't enough you Sometimes I

732
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: like somebody who can make getting the jokes. I came

733
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: up with that college where there weren't that many Jews.

734
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you can't get the jokes, forget it right, right,

735
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: But a sense of humor does make it's so like

736
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I am a sucker for that. Okay, But the person

737
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: the mail comes for the interview, uh. In terms of

738
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: their clothing, let's soon they get over the first turtle,

739
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: like if they're wearing if they're wearing cologne, it's a no,

740
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't like any sense, okay, but but I'm going

741
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: a little bit beyond that. If you know, these are

742
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: the nose, the belt, the shoes, the cologne. However, if

743
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: someone comes dressed evidencing, uh, they want to send an

744
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: image that they're rich, can they can you get past that?

745
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Or you say, you know this is just too phony, etcetera,

746
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Like how would you try to prove you're rich about people?

747
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: They're certain jewelry you can wear the gelgy has also

748
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: that be gives that's a boner killer for me jewelry. Okay,

749
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: let's assume the person gets over the physical question marks.

750
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Is it more of an interview or more banter banter repartee?

751
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: I like to have a little chemistry, you know, conversational chemistry.

752
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Banter, that's how I flirt. Okay,

753
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: you're a very irreverent person. And you also said you

754
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: went to therapy, but you have no need for therapy

755
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: at this particular moment, not that you might not tomorrow,

756
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: but not right now. So if I'm dating Chelsea Handler,

757
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: when do I get the real Chelsea? The inside you're

758
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: angst your hopes, your dreams. I mean, I'm pretty I'm

759
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: pretty out. I mean, I'm pretty outspoken about the truth

760
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: of who I am. I'm not. I don't have a

761
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: like persona uh not intentionally anyway. Um, I'm I mean,

762
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty open to talking about real ship, you know.

763
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I also that's a thing like people who aren't willing

764
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: to go deep. I don't. I find that boring. But

765
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: you're very active and I would tend to think that

766
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: you would dominate most men. Yes, okay, and ultimately the

767
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: men you've been involved with. What does the power structure

768
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: look like? I'm in charge and yeah, and that's the structure.

769
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: And the time I've had one relationship where I was

770
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: not in charge and that didn't I didn't like that.

771
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: And how long did that relationship last? Two and a

772
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: half years, but with a couple of breakups in between,

773
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: because the end me breaking up with him. And could

774
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: he accept it? Yeah, I mean he didn't. Yeah, yeah,

775
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: he accepted it. Okay. But if you're in charge, that

776
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: would tend to look like the other person would be

777
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: insecure on some level and afraid of alienating you. If

778
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm in charge, well they should be. That's good. I

779
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: think that's a good dynamic in a relationship. Who's in

780
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: charge with your relationship with your girlfriend, it sounds like

781
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: your girlfriend. It sounds like your girlfriend has I would

782
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I was in charge for Okay. I've had multiple relationships.

783
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: When I was in law school, I lived with a

784
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: person for years, then I did and then I lived

785
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: with a person that I was married too, and then

786
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: there were like fifteen years and I've been living with

787
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: this woman for fifteen years, and everything was My mother

788
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: recently died, and as a result, I'm close to my

789
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: sisters anyway. She fled a full life, although you know,

790
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: passing as serious, and I can see the family dynamic

791
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: growing up definitely affected who I am and how I interact.

792
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: My father certainly brought home the bacon, but my mother

793
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: directed all the social elements. And I have two sisters,

794
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: so I grew up in a female dominated household. I

795
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: have no trouble talking to women. But and you were

796
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: kind of referencing this in your special ultimate, and I

797
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: was talking to my dhrink about you this. You know,

798
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: will you put it out there and say, okay, let's

799
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: do it. Not that I had never had sex on

800
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: the first date, okay, but I'm so busy respecting people

801
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: that I can't read the signal that maybe the person

802
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: would want to do it with me. Right, And by

803
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: the way, as a white guy, you need to read

804
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: that signal because the biggest problem white men have is

805
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: not listening to what women are saying, which is usually

806
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: get away from me, no. So it's important that you like,

807
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: let the woman make sure you know what she's interested in.

808
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: That's historically when you know, you're obviously a product of

809
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: the modern day where you have no you're not caught

810
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: up in the mail in society more rays. But as

811
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: I say, my problem is maybe I'm respecting a little

812
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: too much. I mean, I I didn't grow up. I'm

813
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: not a member of fraternity. I'm not a guy who

814
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, has any bro culture and I can be

815
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: turned off by that. But let's just assume. I mean,

816
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: we all have issues. So you're lying in bed with

817
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: the with the guy, will you spontaneously talk about your

818
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: inner issues? Inner issues? Yeah, I'm not opposed to that.

819
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: I will. I'm not talking about opposed. Is we look back?

820
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Is that something that happens. Yes, I mean, of course,

821
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: when you're intimate with somebody and you feel like you're

822
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: interested in them. If it's not just sex, which sometimes

823
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: it is, then no. But if it's someone you're interested

824
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: in when there's chemistry, then yes, absolutely. Okay, So with

825
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: the guy, what about you, Bob, Are you interested in

826
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: sharing your innermost feelings? I'm interested that in most, But

827
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: something happened to me about twenty five years ago. You know.

828
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is, uh, my father was certainly very outspoken,

829
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: and my mother. To my mother, as I always say,

830
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: it was like when Reggie Jackson came to the Yankees,

831
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: he said he was the straw that stirs the drink.

832
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: And so I am certainly the all that. I mean

833
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: my mother certainly is I went away to college. I

834
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: grew up in the suburbs of Connecticut, fifty miles from

835
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: New York so it's all New York media, etcetera. I

836
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: went to college in the middle of nowhere, in the

837
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: pre DVD VHS era, never mind a little bit after that.

838
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: But in any event, I had never been involved with

839
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: that many non Jews who were wealthy, who did not

840
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: understand the Jewish experience, and a interacting with don Jews

841
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: is very different from interacting with Jews. And you have

842
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: a certain profile at this point, the average person does

843
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: not know how to interact with celebrity or wealth. I

844
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: went to college, there was Betsy Bass from Baths Show's

845
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: Eileen Rockefeller. I mean, these were people, and you learned

846
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: how to interact. To this day, you know, if I'm

847
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: with their per certain people, I can't bring them along

848
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: because there'll be someone famous and they'll they'll literally embarrass you.

849
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: But the point was I was very vocal, okay, once

850
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I started to right full time and eighty six, and

851
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I had regular jobs before that in the music and

852
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: film industry. Somehow I've become internalized, and even though I have,

853
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, six figures worth of people listening to me

854
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: every day, on some level, I feel a little isolated.

855
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: So it makes it more difficult for me to tell

856
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: my story, and you're great because you're having you're telling,

857
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: You're getting me to tell my story. But first and foremost,

858
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: one thing you learn, and i'n't employed as a trick.

859
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Most people love to talk about themselves and they will

860
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: set tell you absolutely anything. I'm not one of those

861
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: people is going to use it against you, but I

862
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: find it fascinating. Everybody's got a life story to tell,

863
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: and I want to hear it. But frequently when I

864
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: start telling my story, you hear noise in the background.

865
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm rearranging the cupboard whatever. That's because you're

866
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: not saying anything though, You're just you're glossing over the

867
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: question that I asked you. I'm asking you seriously, are

868
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: you into getting deep with with your partners? Say? Are

869
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: you're into having deep conversations? Because absolutely, if anything, I'm

870
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: too deep for people. It's like that Mark Cohn song,

871
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: dig down Deep. There is nothing I would rather do

872
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: than talk about my emotions. They analyze other people's motivations.

873
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, you're Jew, though, so Jews love

874
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: to do that. It's like Howard you know, he loves

875
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: to talk about you know, That's why it makes a

876
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: good interviewer and on the subject though what you can

877
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: ask me, you continue, no interrupts me, go ahead. I

878
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: used to, Uh, you know, there are a lot of people.

879
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: My father was one of those people who would say,

880
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: what's the real story here? You know, you see somebody

881
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: living in your neighborhood at the time, driving a Cadillac,

882
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: going on vacation, but they don't seem to work. There's

883
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: always a story, that's what interests me. Where a lot

884
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: of people they take it on face value. Obviously in

885
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Hollywood you have a lot of people living on debt,

886
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: driving expensive cars. One bad thing happens, they lose everything.

887
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: But there's more than that, especially when you're privileged like

888
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: you are, and I am to interact with people who

889
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of money, and you realize they say

890
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: they have a job, but they really don't. And then

891
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, people do you know. There's one of the

892
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: things that bothers me about Hollywood and famous people is

893
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: these people who get divorced and say, oh, I'm over

894
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: it and immediately get another relationship. If you were in

895
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: a deep relationship, it's gonna take you a long time

896
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: to get over that if you're honest, Because here's someone

897
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: who knows all your personal stories, all your motivations, your acts,

898
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: and and you know I'm not I don't. I don't

899
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: believe in being friends after But even if you are friends,

900
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: that's a little antiquated. I mean, I'm not friends with

901
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: many of my Well, actually that's not true. If enough

902
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: time passes, you can be friends. But like, I also

903
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: find that suspicious when people are friends with their exes.

904
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: But then when I really break it down, it's like,

905
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: that's exactly the way it should be. You should want

906
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: to be friends with the person that you dated or

907
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: that you dated or dating. I find it too painful.

908
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: I used to sleep with this person in the bed.

909
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: I shared everything, and you can interact with them and

910
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: it clicks right back. This is both good and bad.

911
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, you we can with someone you say, well,

912
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: should I have broken up with them, and within seconds

913
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: of reconnecting with them, you see exactly why you write.

914
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I forgot why this person annoys me,

915
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and then I remember, But it's hard for me after

916
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: having shared all that stuff. You know, we live in

917
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: a completely phony world where everybody is full of shit.

918
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: So when you get down to the essence of it,

919
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: that's when you really feel like a human being. Also,

920
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: when you get older, you realize it's all bullshit. I

921
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: have compassion. I believe everybody is a title to food

922
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: on their plate and a roof over their house, you know,

923
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: because when you're desperate, and I've been desperate, that's really bad.

924
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Other than that, accomplishments, it's all irrelevant. Ultimately, none of

925
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: us will be remembered, and in a short term probably

926
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: people will be remembered. Weren't even that famous in our era.

927
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: So it's about your interact. This is one of the

928
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: problems with men. Men. It's all about a totem pole.

929
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: I gotta get this. I gotta that where a woman

930
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: can go from experience to experience. So generally, okay, let's

931
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: say you break up with somebody. You'll call all your friends.

932
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: You'll tell the story. So I'm coming over with some

933
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, sweet, some chalkol ate, whatever, and you'll talk

934
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: it out. If you call a guy. If a guy

935
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: calls a guy, you say, oh, come over, let's sit

936
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: on the couch and watch some sports. They can't even

937
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: get into this. They can't even discuss it. It's like

938
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: and the best part is if you're a girl and

939
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: you break up with a guy and you wonder if

940
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: he's talking to his friends about you. He's not. I

941
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: never heard him said that way, but that is absolutely true.

942
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, he's gonna talk to his friends and

943
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell him how great I was and how

944
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: he fucked up. And then you're like, no, they're not.

945
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: They're just gonna be like, Okay, good, We're glad that's over.

946
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: You know, you have this idea like women are able

947
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: to make up, and you know this is just because

948
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: of the construct of everything, you know, societal construct and

949
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 1: stuff that we've you know, there's so much value place

950
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: on the way a woman thinks versus the way a

951
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: man thinks, because we're so different. And the bottom line is,

952
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, yeah we're a little bit different, but we're

953
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: the same more than more different. And like, when I

954
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: find a guy that can really actually talk intellectually about

955
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: his emotions or about his feelings, like that is the

956
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: biggest turn on. And that's what's happening now. You know,

957
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: like men have to come to the table with more

958
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: than just they're you know, they're dick in their hands.

959
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: Excuse my French for those seventeenth time I've cursed on

960
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: this podcast. Curse as much as you want, but they

961
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: have to come to the table with a little bit more,

962
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. You can't just be

963
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: a guy trying to get laid and have no depth

964
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: to you. It's like you can, but then you're gonna

965
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: get You're gonna get the mirror image of yourself. Okay.

966
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever broken up with you? Um? Yeah, yeah,

967
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember hold on, uh broken up with me? Yes.

968
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: I had a guy, a boyfriend when I was like

969
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: in my twenties. He he owned the building that I

970
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: lived in Santa Monica. I lived on Wilshore and at

971
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: this building, and his name was Bijon. He was Persian,

972
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: but he went by John, so I didn't know he

973
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: was Persian until I was dating for about four months

974
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: and saw Bien written somewhere. I'm like, hold up, what

975
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: are you Persian? And he said yes I am. I'm like,

976
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: okay that okay, I didn't know that, thank you. Anyway,

977
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: we had a cute little relationship for like six months.

978
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: I was really into him. I was probably twenty five

979
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: six years old, and I was hustling doing stand up

980
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: around town, and I had had a couple of small

981
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: breaks and he didn't like that I wanted to be

982
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry or that I wanted to be

983
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: famous or any of that stuff. It was a big

984
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: turn off to him, as it would have been to myself,

985
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: by the way. Uh. And so I said, I'm gonna write.

986
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I got a book deal, was my very first book deal,

987
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: and it was a book about all my one night

988
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: stands that I had had in my twenties. It was

989
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: called My Horizontal Life, a collection of one night stands.

990
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: And he said, if you write a book like that, like,

991
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be dating you. And I was like,

992
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, really and he so he broke up

993
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: with me. And you know, when you're immature and you're

994
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: a girl, you really believe like everyone's going to come

995
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: to their senses like that they're gonna miss you so

996
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: much that they're going to come back and you know,

997
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: want to be with you. And he was not interested

998
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: in being with me. I mean I begged him to

999
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: get back together like twice. He said, no, as long

1000
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: as you want to be in the entertainment industry, I'm

1001
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: not interested in that. Well, that's black. That's black and white.

1002
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: That makes it easy. But don't you think it's interesting

1003
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: that you're usually the person who breaks up with the

1004
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: other person. Well, not considering my history, I don't really

1005
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 1: trust men, you know, until I like time out, time out.

1006
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Chelsea Handler doesn't trust men. I'm an

1007
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: independent woman. So, as I talked about in my special,

1008
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, my brother passed away when I was nine

1009
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: years old, and he you know, he was an accident,

1010
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: but he told me, like looked me in the eye

1011
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: right before he left and said, I will never leave

1012
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: you with these people. He was talking about my parents.

1013
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: But he was going on a hiking trip in Jackson,

1014
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: oh Wyoming, and he said that to me because I

1015
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: was questioning why he was going away without the family.

1016
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I'd never been separated from my brother before ever. He

1017
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: was the oldest. I was the youngest of six. And

1018
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: when he said I'll never leave it with these people, like,

1019
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that feeling like, oh, this man is

1020
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: going to take care of me for the rest of

1021
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: my life. He cares more about me than anybody. And

1022
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: he died three days later, got into a hiking accident,

1023
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: fell off a Cliff and died. And then my father's

1024
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: reaction to that was also as withdrawn. Like my dad,

1025
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: who was very present in my life up until my

1026
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: brother's death, it made me lose trusted men, like as

1027
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: a unit, like the two guys that I relied on

1028
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: the most had disappointed me. And so I, you know,

1029
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: I walked through life with this. I don't need anybody.

1030
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't need anybody. I'll never depend on a man again.

1031
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: They can't be trusted. Men can't be trusted. Men can't

1032
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: be trusted, you know. And I didn't unpack the until

1033
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: I was forty years old and Trump was elected, and

1034
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm mad at Donald Up. I can't

1035
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: believe he's the president. And my psychiatrists would just sit

1036
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: there and let me run in circles for like six weeks,

1037
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: until he finally was like, your anger is not about

1038
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. There's something else that this is triggering, Like

1039
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: this is deeper, and this is from your childhood. And

1040
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way I'm going to talk

1041
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: about my childhood with this fucking guy. And then two

1042
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: weeks later, you know, I just he opened my brain

1043
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: in a way that I hadn't been exposed to before

1044
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: to actually take a real look at how I gone

1045
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: through my life and what the biggest impacts were, and

1046
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: not taking my brother's death seriously, not enough to think

1047
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: I had to go to therapy for it because I did. Well,

1048
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: you're obviously a very strong person. That's probably one of

1049
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: the reasons you resisted therapy. And you say you only

1050
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: want to rely on yourself. But when you talk about

1051
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: your father and your brother, there's certainly male but it's

1052
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: also caught up in the family unit. So and I

1053
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: certainly understand your point. It's about extrapolating that into your

1054
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: regular life. But is has it been so dominant that

1055
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: your experiences with men one on one as an adult

1056
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: don't affect that, or have you also had experiences with

1057
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: men as an adults that you say they're not pressworthy? Well? Both,

1058
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: I think. I think I didn't know, like you know,

1059
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: what kind of guy to trust, and I didn't trust anyone.

1060
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: So it was a constant battle of me trying to

1061
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: make them show me how much they were going to

1062
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: do for me or how much they loved me, Like

1063
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: if you love me, prove it. It was like, you know, black,

1064
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: very black and white. Um, so I was dealing with

1065
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: men as like as a as a nine year old

1066
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: little girl essentially, you know, like that immaturity, that where

1067
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I was stuck. I was stuck at that age and

1068
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: many aspects of my life. And once somebody said that

1069
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: out loud to me, I was like, Oh, I've read

1070
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: so many books about this, and yet I never recognized

1071
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: myself in it, you know, because it's so hard to

1072
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: see your own situation. Sometimes, you know, everybody else can

1073
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: look at me and go, well, of course she's like

1074
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: this because her brother Dawn when she was nine, or

1075
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, her father this and that, and it's like,

1076
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: but you you don't always see how you are behaving.

1077
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: You don't always have a clear self awareness. And I

1078
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest gift of therapy is the gift

1079
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: of self awareness. Okay, so having gotten these insights had

1080
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: does it change your behavior with men subsequent there too? Totally?

1081
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Everything is different. Everything is different in my life. I

1082
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 1: have so much more patience. I meditate every single morning.

1083
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: This morning, I meditated for thirty minutes until I was

1084
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: rudely interrupted by Irving as Off and Shelly A's Off

1085
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: calling me together postcoital hopefully um first thing this morning.

1086
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: But I I meditate. I don't react in the way

1087
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: that I used to. I respond now, you know, if

1088
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: I get a ext or an email that I disagree

1089
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: with or I don't like, I don't fire it off

1090
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: in this angry energy where you're on your phone, like

1091
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: what what? I don't panic anymore. I just know that, like,

1092
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: I have a zen quality that I just never had before.

1093
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: And it's made me be able to sit with myself

1094
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: for long periods of time without having anything to do.

1095
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: It's made me calm down. You know. It was, like

1096
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: I say, cannabis. I always joked that cannabis was my

1097
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: gateway drug into meditation, but it's true. Like I started,

1098
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, when it was legalized here, because obviously I

1099
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: would never do anything illegal. Bob, I'm not I I

1100
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: got the joke like another comedian. I'm just laughing in

1101
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: my mind. I started, um, you know, using cannabis, and

1102
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: I started drinking a lot less because you know, when

1103
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: you're angry about something, and alcohol is like a hat

1104
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: on a hat. So my pivot to cannabis kind of

1105
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: relaxed me altogether. And I'm a real big proponent of

1106
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: it now because a little bit slower. One might say, well,

1107
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: it's like a sex a little bit slower, Like you

1108
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: said that like three times, you're gonna I want to

1109
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: stop at You're No, you're not going too fast. You're

1110
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: saying so many interesting things that I don't want to

1111
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: run past them with and lose them. In the overall conversation,

1112
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about arm cure psychology you get from the books.

1113
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Wouldn't arm cure psychologists say that, uh, you are self

1114
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: medicating and that maybe there's a better drug to reduce

1115
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: your panic and melo ja? Yeah, I mean whatever, who

1116
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: cares if? I mean a psychiatrist, he's a professional. He no,

1117
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: he did. I told him. I came in hot one day.

1118
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I've told him about this, you

1119
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: know re uh, this renaissance of cannabis and now that

1120
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: there's this educational component to cannabis. Where you look there,

1121
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: it's labeled. Now you know what you're taking. You're not

1122
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: taking a cookie that's some guy put pot in. You know,

1123
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: you're not taking like unum unlabeled amounts of THHC. It's

1124
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: it tells you what you're taking. Okay, But did your

1125
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: doctor ever say I want to give you an antidepression,

1126
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: or a different job. No, I don't have a depressive personality.

1127
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: That wasn't my issue. My issue was anger, not depression.

1128
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't have anxiety. I don't

1129
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: have depression. I am in a different box of personalities. Okay,

1130
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: but what other issues do you have besides anger and

1131
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: mistrusting men? Patients, lack of patients, lack of deeper, deeper,

1132
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking more Chelsea, at the root level. Lack of

1133
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: empathy was pretty d root. Wow. Wow, So has this

1134
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: been historic? You've never really had empathy? No, I had

1135
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: to have him sympathy, Yes, like sympathy. I'm happy to

1136
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: help anyone, even if it's a stranger, but certainly my friends.

1137
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: I've shown up on people's beds, you know, millions of

1138
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: times in my life and stayed there, you know, not

1139
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: just the day that somebody dies or that you know

1140
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: someone's unfaithful, or but the days after. I'm very good

1141
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: at helping people through crises, like that's one of my things.

1142
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Because my childhood was a crisis or a crisis. It

1143
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: was like it was built of many crises. So I

1144
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: know how to act in an emergency situation. I'm a fixer.

1145
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: I go in and I man handle the situation, and

1146
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what we're gonna do. This is

1147
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, and I don't leave until my

1148
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: patient is better. Like, I take it that seriously. But

1149
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: empathy is actually doing all of those things while imagining

1150
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: what it's like to be the person that I'm helping. Right,

1151
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm that's that's something that I never even could grasp. Okay,

1152
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: but is that also related to the experience you had

1153
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: when your brother died and your father disconnected? Possibly? I mean, yeah,

1154
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: I think so. I'm sure it is. Uh, but it's

1155
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: definitely something that I had to cultivate, you know. And

1156
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, the minute he said that,

1157
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, where do I get empathy? I

1158
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: was like, is there an app I can download? He's like, no, No,

1159
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: this is something that you can work on and cultivate. Like,

1160
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: you have to start thinking about people and their lives

1161
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: and their experiences, not just how it relates to you.

1162
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Like if somebody at an airport is annoying instead of

1163
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: you know me, it's like, oh, well, think about where

1164
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: they're coming from. Think about what's going on in their life,

1165
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: think about their wife or their children. It's like broadening

1166
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: your understanding of other people, although that's different. You know,

1167
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: we both know how hard it is to make it

1168
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: in the entertainment business, and those people may be struggling

1169
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: through life. But you have to be very one minded

1170
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: to be successful, and you can't spend that much time

1171
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: with time wasters who are not helping your career. So

1172
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a quid pro quote. I'm

1173
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: not saying you're untrue, but it's like, say, you know,

1174
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: my father, you know, used to call these people schnooks,

1175
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like you don't want to waste

1176
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: time with your with the shnooks, etcetera. And I, you know,

1177
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: I go crazy too. But it's also somewhat there's a

1178
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: fast lean and a slow lane, and it's interesting to me,

1179
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like, uh, it's the poor

1180
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: people who give more money percentage wise to charities than

1181
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: the rich. The poor have more empathy. It's a very

1182
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: interesting topic. It is a very interesting topic, and it's

1183
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: valuable to have. It's valuable to you know, to think

1184
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: about what it's like to be a black person in

1185
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: this world. If you're a white person, and if you're

1186
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: a white male, to think about what it's like to

1187
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: be a woman to have to be scared at night

1188
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: when you walk home. Have you ever had to think

1189
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: about that, you know, as a black person, have you

1190
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: ever been scared being pulled over by the police. I mean,

1191
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yes, you can say yes to that, but

1192
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: I've argued with police like more times than I can

1193
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: count before I was the celebrity, just based on my

1194
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: own entitlement and based on the fact that I had

1195
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: the right to and guess what, I got off all

1196
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: the time because I was young and pretty and white. Okay,

1197
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: uh with the psychia? You know what holds in dreams?

1198
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: Do you still have? What are your goals? Got a

1199
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: bad connotation, but you certainly had your own TV show,

1200
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: You've had contract with Netflix, You've had six very successful books.

1201
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: What does Chelsea Handler want now? Um? Great question. You know,

1202
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm really one of the favorite My favorite

1203
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: things to do is to shoot documentaries because, like you,

1204
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: I really enjoy having conversations with real people, not necessarily celebrities,

1205
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: because I kind of you know, did that for a

1206
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: very long time. But I love documentaries and I love

1207
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope, and I love to have thought provoking

1208
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: conversations that make people like me think more or harder

1209
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: about a certain subject that they may not be privy to. Um.

1210
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna probably try and do another Chelsea

1211
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: Does series, which I did for Netflix, which was a

1212
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: set of four documentaries. I did another documentary called Hello Privilege,

1213
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: It's Me Chelsea for Netflix a few years ago, and

1214
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: I kind of like that that dynamic, So you know,

1215
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: I probably will probably that will be my next project.

1216
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: And then you know, they're developing my book at Universal

1217
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: to turn it into a TV show, so uh, you know,

1218
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: that's something that I'm excited about acting in it. You know,

1219
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll host a show again. I

1220
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: don't know that I have that in me again, you

1221
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like I'm right now

1222
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: able to be a little bit more thoughtful about my projects.

1223
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: So when I do something, it has a little bit

1224
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: more meaning and heft than my you know, my early years,

1225
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: and that is valuable to me. So sometimes I think

1226
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: when you take a contract and you're expected to be

1227
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: on the air five nights a week, you know, the

1228
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: quality gets diminished. In my experience, and I would like

1229
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: to be able to put in you know, like high integrity,

1230
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: high quality stuff. Do you have to put your own irreverent,

1231
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: humorous personnel or do you think you could do a

1232
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: documentary that was just informative and straight? Oh no, I

1233
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: always infuse humor. I mean to it, I don't do

1234
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: anything straight. I mean, there are serious subjects, but I

1235
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: can still make them funny. You know, you have to

1236
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: pick and choose your moments, and I think that's an

1237
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: art in and of itself, um, which is interesting to explore.

1238
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be, you know, like a Diane Sawyer.

1239
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a joking about it also. Uh,

1240
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: but you know there's also an internal dialogue that you have,

1241
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Like being on a show as silly as Chelsea Lately,

1242
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: as entertaining as that was for so many people, you know,

1243
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: you start to thank, Oh God, is this all I am? Like?

1244
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: Is this what people think of me? That I can

1245
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: just sit around and make fun of celebrities. I'm so

1246
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: much more than that. I'm so deep, much deeper. I read,

1247
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm like educated, I like, you know, I there's so

1248
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: much more to me politically, social justice, you know, I

1249
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: so so it was I was very you know, to

1250
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: hydrated for some series business of my life. It was

1251
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: a little too silly. I want to be humorous, and

1252
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I always want to deliver the goods in a comedic

1253
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: way because it's much easier to you know, take the

1254
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: medicine if it's funny. But uh yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: always have a comic bent to it. If it's not,

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Speaker 1: if there's not a dose of a little bit of humor,

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: it's not appealing to me. Okay, you mentioned a couple

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Speaker 1: of times readings, So what do you read? M hmm.

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Speaker 1: I just read a book called Getting Over Yourself? The

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Speaker 1: what was it called? I wrote a book called the

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Speaker 1: uh Mark Epstein wrote it the Guide to Getting over

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: Yourself Advice not given, that's what it's called. And then

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Speaker 1: I just read Kazie David's new book called No One

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: Asked for This. And then this is an incredible book

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Speaker 1: that I just finished. This is called Past I'm sure

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: you've heard of it by Isabel will Person and that

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Speaker 1: I think should be required reading for every middle school. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but those are all non fiction books. Do you tend

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Speaker 1: to only read nonfiction or fiction too? No? I read fiction.

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm in a nonfiction stage, but I read fiction, and

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: if I read fiction, I like classic literature, you know,

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Speaker 1: like like Lady Chatterly or like um Weathering Heights, like

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's really escapist, you know. During

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Speaker 1: this time especially, I just read this autobiography. Oh, this

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: was a big one that I just read during COVID.

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01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: This is an autobiography on Frederick Douglas. You can see that.

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: It's so that's a that was a big book. But again,

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm in that nonfiction phase because probably because of BLM

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: and everything that's happened this year, I just feel like

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01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: I have to get as as educated as possible. You know.

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01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: It's funny. I went to college with people wo end

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: up being in the book business, and I was a

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01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: nonfiction reader, and then they said they only read fiction

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01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: because it's truer to life, and it's really switched me.

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I gotta kindle once again from my

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01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: girlfriend from my birthday in two thousand nine, and I

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: made a commitment to myself if I bought the book,

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: I'd finish it okay. And I lived up to that

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: commitment and I got really into read. I'm a big reader.

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm reading all day long. Mostly, you know, I get

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: three physical newspapers. People say, why, I'm checking the apps

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: dozens of times a day, But with the physical newspaper,

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: you'll see a certain article that you wouldn't see otherwise.

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: Even though the days of physical newspapers are numbered, I

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01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: read the paper every day. I don't read the whole paper,

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: but I get the New York Times delivered every day

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: just because I like to support journalism. And you know,

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01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: I read about an article or two unless it's Sunday

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01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: and then I read about seven. Okay, Why is there

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01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: any hope for us to convince the Hoi POLLOI that

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: the New York Times, whatever their criticisms, is the most

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: authoritative journal on the planet. Mm hmmm, well, I I

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: would hope that that vibe will come back around while

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01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: we're still here, you know where where New York Times

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: was the standard the standard of news, and the Washington

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01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: Post not liberal media outlets, which is ridiculous. I agree totally.

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01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is if you watch any

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: of the right wing stuff, and I do because I

1309
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: want to know what the enemy is up to. And

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: even MSNBC they're constantly quoting the New York Times of

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, they said, New York Times since the

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: agenda for the whole world because they have boots on

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: the ground everywhere, so irrelevant if you talk about spin,

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: that is how the whole world finds out what's going on.

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: Not that I can criticize the The Times, but as

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01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: I say, certain fiction books, you know, they really resonate

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01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: with me. How about TV? You watch a good amount

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: of Well, wait, I have some good fiction books. Let's

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: talk about my favorite fiction books. House of Mirth is

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Speaker 1: one of the best books I've ever read. I mean,

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's called House of Mirth because

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing funny about it, but it's well, what is

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: how Samrth? Ring? Ring my bell on? That? How s

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: the mirth? Who wrote how samrth? Edith Wharton? Okay, I

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: must admit I'm lacking on the classics. Okay, Anna Karenina

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: by Joy Jeff is the best book ever written. Right

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: there we go. People who want to dive in, what

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: translation you read is very important. They've been in the

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01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: last thirty years. Have been some great translations. But if

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: you can find a good one, unbelievable. Yeah, I have

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: to reread that book. That's something I don't do enough

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: of is rereading books. You know what I mean? We

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: read a book never, we never we watch a movie. Figure,

1334
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: life's too short. I could read or watch something new.

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01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: But another book, a fiction book that I read. I

1336
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: read the South Korean author who is beautiful. It's called Pachinko,

1337
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: which is, if anyone's listening, it is a beautifully. It's

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: just there's this. There's a whole different flare to like

1339
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: Asian writers and the way they describe things, and it's succinct.

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't go on and on like in

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01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: a John Steinbeck kind of way. You know how John

1342
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: to Steinbeck is a descriptive writer. Right, he can talk

1343
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: about the leaves on the trees for about forty minutes,

1344
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, for Fox's sake, can we just

1345
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: get to some action. I'd agree more you. The number

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: one thing about a book and writing is it has

1347
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: to be readable. Content is secondary to readability. Once they

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01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: get you know, you talk about reading on a kindle,

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: you download the sample chapter. Once they get super into description,

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm out. I don't want to being written like a screenplay.

1351
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: But I read for story. Okay, there are all these

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 1: people you know who are the you know, there's there's

1353
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 1: no more self righteous artistic enterprise than the book business. Okay,

1354
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: these people are on their high horses. There's a great

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: book I read. I was just trying to think of

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: the name of it last year. That is so beautiful

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01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: and it's fantastical, which is not my reality. But it

1358
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: was a New York Times bestseller, and uh, what is it?

1359
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: It was about this? What's a plot about It's it's

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: hard to describe without sounding stupid, but it's this little

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: it's a nymph that's living, that lives like for thousands

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of years, and it's a Greek mythology.

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: But this is invers Sarcy. Did you read it? No,

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01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 1: everyone's recommended. It was my it was my favorite book.

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: That is my favorite book. You've got to get into

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 1: it because the writing is so finely tuned that she

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: she will end a sentence and you have to put

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01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: the book down. You're like, what like she It's like

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: it's like a clapback, you know, like everything she says

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: in the last sentence describes, And this woman lives for

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Speaker 1: two thousand years and she goes through all these generations

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: of people, and she's got a lover and she's got

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: a son, and it's like the most humane story. But

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: it's in such a fairy tale, fantastical setting, which I

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01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: usually am. Not into this book with Madeleine what's her

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01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: name wrote it, Madeline Miller. It's got that that bronze

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: and black cover. Yeah, read it. Why don't you read

1378
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: that for me? Because and you give me a book

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: to read and then we can discuss it. Okay, I

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: got a couple of books for you to maybe we'll

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: talk off the but um, we'll give me the recommendations

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01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: now for your list. What is the name of the

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: woman ship who wrote the book? Her? The famous book

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01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: is about the war in France, And but the one

1385
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: that I really like is about without going through my

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: kindle library, about the family that moves to Alaska. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I'm going to mention is the trilogy.

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: You didn't even finish mentioning the first book. I have

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: no idea what I'm gonna have to look it up,

1390
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: as I say, you know. Also, unfortunate things reading on

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 1: the kindle unless you touch name is in Hildebrand. Hildebrand

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01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: is the person who does the you know, uh, like

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01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: The Horse Story, etcetera. Kristen Hannah, The Great Alone. Okay,

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: most people have read the previous book which I read after,

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01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: which is The Nightingale. I have that downstairs. I haven't

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01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: read it yet. Should I read that? Okay? These are

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: easy books to read, and you have to gauge whether

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: they're highbrow or low brow. One of the reasons I

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: love the Alaska book is because I'm really into the

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: winter weather in isolation, when the weather is terrible and

1401
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: the loots are open, that's when I love to go out.

1402
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: It's only like me and society. But most people prefer

1403
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: The Nightingale. But there are other books of that can

1404
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: I read? Should I read The Nightingale first and then

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01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: read the Alaska one? That's what most people would do,

1406
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: so so then I'll do the opposite, okay, and the

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: English Woman with the trilogy. You'll really dig this Harry Potter. Yeah, right.

1408
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: If you haven't read House of Mirth, you need to

1409
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: read that because it's very society based and it's very

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: prescient for what like, nothing's changed. You got to read

1411
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: this book. This is one book you'll read in a night.

1412
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,440
Speaker 1: Do you know this book? Group? No? It's a bestseller.

1413
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: It's a woman who went into group therapy and it

1414
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: changed your life. Okay, it's very fast read. I'm not

1415
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: saying necessarily you read because of identified. But she's very

1416
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: honest about her feelings and as I say, it takes

1417
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: nothing to get into that. Uh. But you know, are

1418
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: you into somewhat science fiction e type things? Uh? Yeah,

1419
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: but not No, I'm not really. I don't like that. Okay,

1420
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: because there's a there's a I'm not into it either.

1421
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: But people love this book blog stars. Okay, all right,

1422
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: it's not really much science fiction. It's set in the future. Okay,

1423
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: going through some ship you probably read. I'm not a

1424
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: big an Patchet fan, But did you read The Dutch House. No,

1425
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't read the I don't. I don't read that

1426
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: those kinds of books. Like, I'm not into an Patchet

1427
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: Like I get how power, like how great she is,

1428
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: but those are not my style. Just so I know,

1429
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: because I'm not into most of the stuff she does.

1430
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: What is it about that turns you off? It's just

1431
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: not my style. I don't feel like i'm learning anything.

1432
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: Like I like something that's either historical fiction or I

1433
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: like to be thinking that I'm educating myself and I

1434
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 1: don't feel like those situations are anywhere near a reality,

1435
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And the dynamics are like,

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: it's just not like my style of stuff. Okay. Uh,

1437
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: that one, because I'm not a big fan, is about

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: a house in a family house. But but but forget that.

1439
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: I found the trilogy Rachel cust let me, Okay, how

1440
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: do you spell it? Last nime? Well, I'm gonna get it. Okay,

1441
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you start with the right one.

1442
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: But you know what, I think I've probably read like

1443
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: one an Hatch and Patrick. Listen, I'm not a big fan.

1444
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm not putting on the top of the list. Just

1445
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: read this book called Outline, okay by Rachel Cusk see

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: u s K. It is very interior and you will dig.

1447
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: There's two more that are part of the trilogy. On trilogy. Unfortunately,

1448
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: the first one is the best. This is not low

1449
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: brows stuff, but it's not highbrow stuff. You talk about

1450
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: speaking to someone's feeling the way they experience the world.

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01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: It's really good, really good. Oh well, thank you for

1452
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: these recommendations. I say, I certainly have more than that.

1453
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 1: But let me maybe we should start a book club.

1454
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: I'd love to start a book club. I would love

1455
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: a book club too. I don't have anyone who reads

1456
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: it like I do in my life. Okay, but let

1457
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. With Oprah, she had the

1458
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: book club and they used to do it on TV. Okay,

1459
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: now she just recommends the book and there's no meeting.

1460
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: What I want to know to you, is it enough

1461
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: that other people read the book or do you want

1462
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: to have a discussion about it. Yeah? I like a

1463
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: discussion about a book. Okay, I like a discussion. And

1464
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: I went to college and this is one of the

1465
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: reasons I stopped being an English major. You know, there's

1466
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: the classical interpretation, they're the metaphors whatever. What I like

1467
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: most about a book is the experience talking about my

1468
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: connection with the book. So I don't want to bring

1469
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: in a facilitator who'll talk about what the first sentences whatever.

1470
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: I want to talk about how the book made me feel. Yeah.

1471
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a difference between deconstructing a book and

1472
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: actually talking about your experience reading the book, you know. Uh,

1473
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I agree with you. I don't need

1474
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: to know how it's being interpreted or what the classic

1475
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 1: analytical you know, analysis is of it. I'm more interested

1476
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: in discussing what you got out of it and what

1477
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 1: other people got out of it that I didn't necessarily. Okay, listen,

1478
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: if you seriously want to do it, I'll do it

1479
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: with you. And well, can we can we get your

1480
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: girlfriend to do it? Absolutely? She reads everything I read. Absolutely.

1481
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: I was saying, I was thinking we should start a club,

1482
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll just start at you and me. No, No,

1483
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: I think we should start it as an alternative to

1484
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: all the horseship book clubs there are. Okay, so you

1485
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: and me can when announce the book to all of

1486
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: our followers. But listen, I need you to do because

1487
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: I do a book club every month for my on

1488
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: my Instagram where I post nude with my books. The

1489
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: three books that I've read are recommending that month, and

1490
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: so you would have to be part of that photo shoot.

1491
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: Is your girlfriend gonna let you do that? I have

1492
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: no problem with nudity whatsoever. My girlfriend that's a different issue.

1493
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: But I have no problem with that. Okay, Well, I

1494
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: think you, you and I should get it started. I'm

1495
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: book club with Bob left Sets. I think it has

1496
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,520
Speaker 1: to be fair. I we'll talk to Irving about this. Oh,

1497
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, but I've already started it.

1498
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: So if you're hopping, okay, if I if I jump

1499
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: into yours with Bob left sets, is fine. If we

1500
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: start a new one that's different, Okay, well I think

1501
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: we should okay, right, if we start a new one, okay, Okay,

1502
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: how did you get hooked up? You started by playing

1503
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: poker with Shelley. Shelley, No, no, I I met Irving

1504
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: at some event for some documentary for Jerry Jerry win Trump. Yeah, yeah,

1505
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: I met him there at that screening. Just be stopped there?

1506
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: Did you know Jerry Win Trump? But you know, peripherally Okay?

1507
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: With the interesting thing about Jerry unfortunately died, would have

1508
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: been alive if he'd been in the metropolis is I

1509
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: didn't know certain things that Irving does. I thought he invented,

1510
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: but they came from the line. You know, Irving, if

1511
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: you email I need the doctor I need, he loves

1512
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: to come through. He loves to make you a doctor's appointment.

1513
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times he's called and

1514
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: been like sugarman, can see you Immediately, I'm like, hey, Irving,

1515
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: I know sugarman too. I can get in faster than

1516
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: you can get me. And he's like, no, you can't

1517
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: let him feel good about himself. But I did. I

1518
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: thought that Irving invented it, not the yes and take

1519
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: it to a new place. But Jerry did, They said,

1520
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: first hour and a half of my day, I made

1521
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: a big phone calls getting everybody's appointments. Act said. Irving's

1522
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: daughter does the same thing. She gets everybody, all of

1523
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: her friends into children's hospital anytime there's a hiccup. Well,

1524
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, I had a friend of mine unfortunately had

1525
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: a brain tumor. And the first thing he says, the

1526
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: first thing he says, ask Irving, okay, and we got

1527
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: the Irving. You know, you get the right doctors. And

1528
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: that's how my girlfriend got to Elatrosh. You know that

1529
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Erosh is awesome. He's a great doctor. Right. But uh,

1530
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: you met Irving at the screening of Jerry's movie, then

1531
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: how do you max it out with Irving? So I

1532
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: met him. I was doing the red carpet for the pictures.

1533
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: I had hung out with Jerry a couple of times,

1534
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: like he had invited me over with his girlfriend and

1535
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: I would like go over for a couple of cocktails

1536
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: and we'd all hang out Susie um. And then he,

1537
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, his documentary came out and I saw Irving

1538
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: on the carpet and he and Shelly approached me, and

1539
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 1: they're like, Irving's like, I love you, I love you.

1540
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. And I was like, oh my god,

1541
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: I love your little body, like your a little nugget.

1542
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: And I was so I thought he was the cutest

1543
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: thing I had ever seen. And then they invited me

1544
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: over like you know, for dinners or whatever, and we

1545
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: became like, you know, they're they're like family now, but

1546
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: in the beginning, we were kind of instant family because

1547
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: I come from such a big family that I I

1548
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: work well and operate well within families, like I like

1549
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: to be the plus one for an entire family. I

1550
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: like a Jewish family, I like a loud family. I

1551
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,520
Speaker 1: like a dysfunctional family, and they are dysfunctional, functionally dysfunctional.

1552
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: So uh, then my E contract, he said, you know,

1553
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: if you ever need help with business, blah blah blah,

1554
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: And I was on Howard Stern years ago, and I

1555
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: just kind of blurted out that I was done with E.

1556
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: Like I'm done. I was going to take a year

1557
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: off and go travel the world. And I said it

1558
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: on air, but I hadn't said it to E, and

1559
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: I thought I had because I had thought it, and

1560
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: I got into a lot of trouble when I got back.

1561
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean, if you take this industry series slay, which

1562
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: you know I don't um. They were very mad at me.

1563
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: He was like, this is a negotiating tactic because your

1564
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: contract is up. I'm like, it's not. Please don't offer

1565
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: me any more money, like I'm leaving, I'm done with

1566
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: this ship. You got like I just wasn't interested anymore,

1567
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: and they were, you know, when I came back from

1568
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 1: that Howard Stern interview, I was in New York obviously

1569
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: at the time when we could travel, and I came

1570
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: back in and my whole staff was upset with me.

1571
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,440
Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't said anything to anyone about not continuing,

1572
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: so I was very insensitive in my kind of thinking.

1573
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: But he was so mad at me, and the heads

1574
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: of you were so mad at me that I was like,

1575
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: I call. I just said, call irving A's off, like

1576
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: he'll deal with this. And I didn't want to talk

1577
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: to them anymore. And then Irving got involved and from

1578
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,879
Speaker 1: then on he's been my manager. And now his daughter's

1579
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: more my manager because she's kind of taken over um

1580
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: for the most part, but she does my day to

1581
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: day stuff, you know, because Irving is too big to

1582
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: do that. Well, certainly too big for the but if

1583
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: you need Irving to go on the big stuff, there's

1584
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: literally never been a better manager, and there's no one

1585
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 1: can make a better deal and his style. What people

1586
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: don't know, because you know a lot of people talk,

1587
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: is they don't understand how funny and charismatic he is.

1588
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: They just see someone they think here, Don Henley says,

1589
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's satan whatever. They don't understand

1590
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: what's really going on as a big teddy bear. And

1591
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people who have do not

1592
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: don't have that experience with him, would disagree with me.

1593
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: But to me and in my life, he's a little

1594
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: nugget of love, you know, and he's just like you know,

1595
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: a godfather to a lot of people. And he doesn't um.

1596
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: He is one of those people when you need him

1597
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: to go in and close the deal, like there is

1598
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: no one better to go one better. Yeah. Yeah, So

1599
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: he's an innovator for sure. Certainly we could talk about

1600
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: Irving all day. But let's go back to relationships for

1601
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of If I could stop my fingers

1602
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: right now and say, you're in a relationship. The guy

1603
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: is good. It's going to last to the end of

1604
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: your life. Are you in a you out? I'm in?

1605
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: You're in? So you are still looking for to you?

1606
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: They can't see the air quotes, but Mr Wright, Yeah,

1607
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: for sure, but you better bring it, like you better

1608
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: bring something to the table because I don't have enough

1609
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: for both of us. Okay, but you are fully aware

1610
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: that this has got loaded the statement, but that you

1611
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: intimidate men? Yes, I am aware. So what did the

1612
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: psychiatrists have to say about that? Um? You know, it's

1613
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: all it's partly finding a guy that can tell me

1614
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: to shut up, you know, that can meet me where

1615
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: I am and be like, hey, listen, who can put

1616
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: me in my place? And it's partly toning my behavior

1617
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: down a little bit when I'm getting to know a guy,

1618
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: but not a lot, because I can't pretend I'm somebody

1619
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: that I'm not. I mean, obviously the people you know,

1620
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: you can tell from our conversation just now, Uh, or

1621
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 1: maybe you can't. But I'm not very good at pretending

1622
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: to be something that i'm not. So you're you're authentic, absolutely,

1623
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: and that is your image, right And I'm waiting for

1624
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: someone to come along who can deal with that. Usually

1625
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: those men are between sixty and eighty years old, Bob.

1626
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: They're not my own age, so it's a little bit

1627
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: more difficult for me. Okay, So since you've had these insights,

1628
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: anyone been reasonable? Yeah, there's a reasonable guy right now

1629
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: that I am hanging around with. Because I don't know

1630
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: who he is, what are his what are his flaws?

1631
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: Because everybody's got flaws. Um, well, I'm not going to

1632
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: go out and I'm not going to talk about his

1633
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: flaws because I'm not going to ruin something before it

1634
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: even gets started. How long has this been going on? Recent?

1635
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: Very recent and more just like a like a hook up,

1636
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: but somebody who's interesting enough to like you just start.

1637
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: Let's go back. How did you meet him? Uh? Through

1638
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: a friend? A friend said, Oh, I have this friend

1639
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: who's you might like and he lives he's responsible because

1640
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: it's during COVID And yeah, we've hung out a few

1641
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 1: times and I like him. Okay, just to stop there.

1642
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: He'll end up annoying the living ship out of me.

1643
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: That okay, but let's hold that for a second. A

1644
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: guy cannot take a recommendation of a date from a woman.

1645
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: They always say, oh, she's beautiful, whatever. It's a well

1646
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: known fact. Can a woman take a recommendation from a

1647
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: woman better than from a guy? A gay guy I

1648
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: would trust more than my gay best friend. I would

1649
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: trust to set me up with before any of my friends. Um,

1650
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: but this one, the person who set me up with.

1651
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: This person is not a good friend. She was just like, oh,

1652
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: I met the sky the other nighty single. He's cute,

1653
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: like he seems like right up your alley. And I

1654
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh great, So you know how old is he?

1655
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: I think he's my age? And is he even married before? No,

1656
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: not that I'm aware. Isn't that you have to get

1657
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: married before? For I'm about the guys, you have to

1658
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: marryhim before forty otherwise they're too set in their ways.

1659
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: M You could argue that for me too, though I'm

1660
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: pretty set in my like, we gonna argue it with you.

1661
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: That's the next That was the next question. You say, Okay,

1662
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: you know someone's going to annoy you. What do we

1663
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: know someone eventually is going to annoy you. Have you

1664
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:36,839
Speaker 1: learned in therapy to subsume that annoyance and say, well,

1665
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: he's definitely annoying me, but the goods outweigh the bads. Here,

1666
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he does that it really attracts me.

1667
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: Let's go in the opposite direction. After we have sex.

1668
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: The few times we've had sex, he says, I'm leaving

1669
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: right away, and that makes me very attracted to him

1670
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: because I really appreciate him understanding that I need my space.

1671
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: He says. I said that to him, and that was

1672
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: one of the first things I said. I said, if

1673
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: you come back to my place, you can't sleep over,

1674
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: like I don't want to wake up together. I I

1675
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: have been single for a very long time, and he

1676
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: really like heard me and respects it every time he

1677
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: comes around. So I find that a very attractive. That's

1678
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: one thing. Okay, just so I know, how long do

1679
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: you have to be involved with its man before they

1680
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: can spend the night. It's been a while, so I

1681
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: would say a few times. You have to really get

1682
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: to know somebody a little bit. You have to have

1683
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: a level of intimacy for somebody to spend the night.

1684
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: There are things that happened in my bedroom from being

1685
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: alone for a long time, Like I get sandwiches in

1686
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. Sometimes I eat a piece

1687
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,440
Speaker 1: of chocolate. If I wake up to go to the bathroom,

1688
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll grab a baby ruth. I have these little

1689
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: miniature Halloween baby ruths. I have some really gross habits

1690
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: that I don't want any man to be exposed to. Okay,

1691
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: but when someone does spend the night, do you still

1692
01:28:55,720 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: have those behaviors. No, but I haven't spent the night

1693
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: with somebody since last March. Okay, that's that's only nine

1694
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: months ago. My point would be, once someone qualifies to

1695
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: stay the night, do you then we press your behaviors

1696
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: or you say you can stay the night. But this

1697
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: is me. I'm eating the baby ruth, I'm eating the sandwiches, etcetera. No,

1698
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: I would use that as a barometer to not have

1699
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 1: a sandwich or a baby ruth. If somebody was spending

1700
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: the night initially in our relationship for the first dozen

1701
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: times time, like you know, a couple of times, Oh, eventually, yes,

1702
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: I would get back to my old trick. What's so

1703
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: what's so offensive of getting getting up in the middle

1704
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: of the night meeting, Well, I bring it back into

1705
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: the bed. My mother had this terrible habit of eating

1706
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: in bed. So she was German. She would make these

1707
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: disgusting liver worsh sandwiches. No, I've never had liver wash,

1708
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I won't eat that either. But

1709
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: I do love a bagel, locks and cream trees in

1710
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: the morning just a half because you know I'm on camera, Okay,

1711
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: but just to stop there, can you get a good

1712
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: bagel in Los Angeles? I've given up on getting a

1713
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: good bagel in Los Angeles. Now I just toast it

1714
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: because if you toast it, it disguises the fact that

1715
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: it's not that good, right, Okay, But back to the

1716
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: point of the baby, your mother was eating in bed.

1717
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: So my mom used to have like and she used

1718
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: to have like a thing of candy in her top

1719
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: drawer next to her nights in her nightstand, and it

1720
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: would have like almon Joys. That was my mom's favorite,

1721
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: baby Ruth Snickers, all types of candy, and it's a

1722
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's a thing that I I still do.

1723
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I love to eat in bed, like make a sandwich,

1724
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: get up, get under the covers. Obviously I use a plate,

1725
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: but it doesn't do that much good. So eventually there

1726
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: are crumbs everywhere there, like in the bed. It's like

1727
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: bringing sand home from the beach. If they're crumbs in

1728
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 1: the bed. Does that gross you out? Or you're fine

1729
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: with it? You just don't want to have anybody else

1730
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: experience it? No? I mean right, I'm fine with it,

1731
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: but it's well, it's it's gross. I'm aware that it's gross,

1732
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: but I can live with it. But I don't want

1733
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to subject another person to it. Okay, other than eating

1734
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: in bed and leaving crumbs, what else do you do

1735
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: that's gross? Oh? I mean, and I have so many

1736
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: gross habits, like um god, I mean, I don't even

1737
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: know where to begin. I spill things a lot. That's

1738
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: not a habit. It's just being clumsy and always being

1739
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: a little bit in a rush. But like I mean,

1740
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: I shaved my face with a with an eyebrow raiser.

1741
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I shaved the blonde hairs off my face. I mean,

1742
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: that's not something I would be embarrassed about. I would

1743
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: do that in front of someone. But what other gross habits?

1744
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just you know, I don't know. Gross. They

1745
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: usually are food related, like like me taking a bite

1746
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: of something and having its spill everywhere and then just

1747
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: like putting the cover, like turning the cover over. Okay,

1748
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 1: but are you just w understand analogous to the bed situation.

1749
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:48,759
Speaker 1: Are you afraid of these things being exposed to a

1750
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: a man? No, Like, when it comes down to it,

1751
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: I'll come clean and be like this is that is

1752
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 1: adjusting for the man? No? No, no, no, I'm saying

1753
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll I'm clean, Like, hey, this is me. This is

1754
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to be subjected to, you fucking asshole.

1755
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: Like that's what I would say. So I'm only I'm

1756
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: only like shrouding the behavior for a little bit, like

1757
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: the runway into a relationship, and then once I've got them,

1758
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: I'll just be like, hey, by the way, I'm gonna

1759
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: have a liver worse sandwich, which I'll never do. But

1760
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: you know, okay, let you say you're alone forgetting dating.

1761
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Are you the type of person like Jerry McGuire has

1762
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: to constantly be connected with their friends or if you're

1763
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: at home alone at night, that is just fine with you. Oh,

1764
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine. I have become a recluse during COVID

1765
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: to a degree like I enjoy my time alone a

1766
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: little bit too much. So and if I go to Whistler,

1767
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: if I do get this gig, which I'm I mean,

1768
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: it's looking like I may go. I'm gonna be alone

1769
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: for three months in Whistler. But you told me your

1770
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: your family is coming for Christmas, right, No, they can't

1771
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: get into Canada because COVID COVID. Do you know enough

1772
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: people there? I know, I know a few people, but

1773
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not worried about it. I look forward

1774
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: to it like I look forward. You're going to ski

1775
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: with an instructor. Yeah, I have buddies to ski with

1776
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: up there. Okay, well that's well, that solves a lot

1777
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: of the things. But being in a cold area, granted

1778
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: the altitude is not that high and a high out

1779
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 1: to this big issue of suicides and mountain towns. But

1780
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: if you are in the house and no one comes

1781
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: to visit you for three months, that is not daunting.

1782
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 1: In advance, that's not going to happen. Someone will visit me.

1783
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: What I have to do is do my two week

1784
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: quarantine alone there, which yes, that's a little bit depressing

1785
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: to think about that. I can't leave my house, but whatever,

1786
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: at least I have a house. But I'm trying to say, okay,

1787
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: once those two, no, it's not too daunting. I'm no,

1788
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have anyone not visit me for

1789
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: three months. That's just not realistic. Well, I'm just saying that,

1790
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: it's a hypothetical the way you set it up. If

1791
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you're looking for a blank slate right now, dare you saying, shot,

1792
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: I gotta book some people. Are you saying, hey, I'll

1793
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 1: play it? Why you're in the fum alone? I'm okay, Yeah,

1794
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: I'll play by air and a fum alone I'm okay. Wow.

1795
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the result of growing up in

1796
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: a big family? What's a result of therapy? I used

1797
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: to have to have people around all the time, like

1798
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I used to have people. Yeah, I used to have

1799
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: I had a friend lived with me, and my brother

1800
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: lived with me. I had my cousin lived with me.

1801
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I was never able to be alone. I had people

1802
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: around non stop. So this is in a way like

1803
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: my first foray into adulthood where I'm alone a lot,

1804
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: and I have to say I enjoy my own company.

1805
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: And why not continue therapy. Well, I don't. I didn't

1806
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: discontinue therapy. I just think therapy is incremental. It's for

1807
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: when you need it, and you need to go for

1808
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 1: those situations in your life that you're not handling, you know,

1809
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: in the way that you can. I don't think it

1810
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: needs to be ongoing. I don't. I certainly don't have

1811
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: the patience to go to ongoing therapy. You know. My

1812
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: next I think my next step out of therapy was like, Okay,

1813
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: let me be open minded with dating and start dating.

1814
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: And you know, the thought terrified me, but I've done it.

1815
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: And so the thing that I've learned, you know, a

1816
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: lot about myself is that I'm very reliable, you know,

1817
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: like I can count on me. And that's been a

1818
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: very big lesson for me because I always, you know,

1819
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: I always was looking for this male guy to come

1820
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: in and sweep me off my feet in the way

1821
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: that my brother did and my father did, you know,

1822
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: I was kind of idealizing them. And now that I'm

1823
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,719
Speaker 1: grown up, I've taken care of myself this whole time,

1824
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: Like there's you know, I've made this living, I've created

1825
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: these adventures, so I have a lot of reliability in

1826
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: my own ability to provide for myself and entertain myself,

1827
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: even if it just comes down to me like I'm

1828
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 1: down with that. Okay, So you're involved in this relatively

1829
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: new relationship. No, it's not a relationship. That's an irrelevant

1830
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: what he's listening, he's gonna be We're in a relationship. Okay.

1831
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: The do you think the shrink might have insights into

1832
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: the interaction with this man that might be educational and

1833
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: beneficial if it becomes a serious relationship. Absolutely, at this

1834
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: stage of the game, it's not necessary. Well, I'm someone

1835
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: who's going I you know, at this point, I still

1836
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: go two times a week. I went for years three

1837
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: times a week, and I learned. I learned. I have

1838
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: long history with therapy, and I'm a big believer that, uh,

1839
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: the right therapist is key. And like Howard, you know,

1840
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: I believe in a in a psychiatrist who can prescribe medication.

1841
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: The person I've been with sin and I was in

1842
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: a really bad place, is radically different from anybody I've

1843
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: seen before. Because traditionally people call their shrinking a crisis.

1844
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: I would never call my shrink in a crisis. I

1845
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: did a few times, all he'll say is it sounds

1846
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: like we have a lot to talk about. See a Wednesday.

1847
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: So I have learned how to become self reliant. It

1848
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: is also more akin to analysis. He would never tell

1849
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: me what to do, and I've had bad experience before

1850
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: that with therapists telling me what to do. But the

1851
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: gradual things have really changed my life. And maybe as

1852
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: a Jew with sometimes aggressive elements of her personality, you'll

1853
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: understand this. So he said, what do you want out

1854
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: of an interaction? And he says, do you know how

1855
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: many UH clubs are in a golf bag? Do you

1856
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: happen to know that? They're fourteen? Okay? And there's the

1857
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: driver for long distance and there's the putter. He says,

1858
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: you get to choose which club you want to use

1859
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: and to get what you want to get out of it.

1860
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're so piste off you don't give a ship

1861
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: what the reactions. You whip off the driver and say

1862
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: fuck you. But I've learned it. There are a lot

1863
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: of times persons a prick whatever. And I said, I'm

1864
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: dying to tell them her prick. But I'm not. It's

1865
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: not that I'm afraid to tell them there prick but

1866
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: I say, after I tell them a prick, is this

1867
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna work for me? Or is it going to leave

1868
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: me in a lesser position. Well, that's a very selfish

1869
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 1: way of looking at it. I mean, it might be

1870
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: nice to just not call somebody a prick because it's

1871
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Speaker 1: unnecessary even if they are. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait.

1872
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is true on the surface. But as

1873
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: you use the example of talking about the show on

1874
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: Howard Stern, you're someone who does not intellectualize before she speaks.

1875
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true. That's my history. But

1876
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: I would say that I'm much better now. Listen, I

1877
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: have no problem going off on somebody and not caring

1878
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: about the repercussions. But now I look at people in

1879
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: a softer way, like I feel like people are really struggling.

1880
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: If someone's just a dick. Yes, I have no problem saying, listen,

1881
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: you're a dick. But I guess, like you, I was

1882
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: always just saying what I felt, and I found that

1883
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 1: I could intellectualize and have a better experience. Yeah. Well,

1884
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: it's good to say what you feel, but sometimes it's

1885
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: only beneficial for you, you know, Like, is it necessary

1886
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: always to insert your opinion. I found that it's not

1887
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 1: even though that's the same thing. People make a mistake.

1888
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: You can't come to what I believe. I believe that like, oh,

1889
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling people the truth, I'm doing them a favor.

1890
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: It's like, m hmm, I'm not necessarily in charge of

1891
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: all people. Okay, And do you watch a lot of

1892
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: uh streaming television? Yeah? What am I watching right now?

1893
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I just watched The Flight Attendant on HBO Max. I

1894
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: watched Are They Undoing? Did you watch that on HBO Max? No,

1895
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. My girlfriend watched it. I can't

1896
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: watch anything that they dribble out week by week. Makes

1897
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: me crazy. I just like to binge. Yeah, I like

1898
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 1: to binge too. I I when I see it like that,

1899
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh ship, So I'm like you. I watched

1900
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: The Crown that was That was actually not as good

1901
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: as I thought. I thought the other seasons were better.

1902
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: I guess the first season turned me off. I thought

1903
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: it was like watching paint dry. Other people say it's best,

1904
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: but I haven't gone back to it. I'm too far behind. Yeah,

1905
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: well you can catch up. You know, it's COVID. You've

1906
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: got nowhere to go. Yeah, but you know, I'm busy,

1907
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: and as I say, there are a lot of great shows.

1908
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: We're watching a really good one right now. Do you

1909
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: know this show from France, the Bureau. Oh yeah, I

1910
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: watched that a long time ago. Right. Isn't that an

1911
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: old show that's on brit Box. Uh, it's part of

1912
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: it was on brit Box or five seasons, the most

1913
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: recent season. Now it's on Sundance. But it's the French

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01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,719
Speaker 1: ci A wait, wait, oh no, I haven't. I'm thinking

1915
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: of something else. Say it again. Okay, let's talk about

1916
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: streaming recommendations. Wait, wait, wait, say the name. I'm not

1917
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: going to forget that one. That's the Bureau. Just tell

1918
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:49,719
Speaker 1: me there. Okay, but it's Sunday. Have you watched Happy Valley? Yes?

1919
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: I love listen, I love British shows like that. Those

1920
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: are my like standard bearer of good television is like

1921
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: Happy Valley. And God, there's a million British or Scottish

1922
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: or Irish detective shows that are just so much better

1923
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: than the ones we get here. You know, Happy Valley

1924
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 1: was one that was a really good one. Then there

1925
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: was the one was Charlotte Rampling. What was that called?

1926
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 1: Remember if she plays the Lawyer. You saw that, Yeah,

1927
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: she's great, and the other one was still in Stars Guard.

1928
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: There's like a bunch of then the other one where

1929
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: the guys got the bomb in the train. There's like

1930
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: six of those. Okay, another blue chip? What about the Bodyguard?

1931
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 1: Did you watch that? Oh? Absolutely good? Yeah, that was

1932
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: a good one. Okay, here's one for you. This is

1933
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: a blue chip. You know, the show Spiral. It's a

1934
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: French detective show, the most successful show in Europe since

1935
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: the first episode is like two thousand and eight. The

1936
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: production values are not quite as good, but it increases.

1937
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. So where do you find these two shows,

1938
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: the Bureau and Spiral? What I do? Hey, I told

1939
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:00,480
Speaker 1: you I only binge b I don't believe in the algorithm.

1940
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 1: So before I watch anything, I do a lot of research, okay,

1941
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: and the definitive research is rotten tomatoes. I will not

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01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: watch anything with less than an eight percent uh good reading.

1943
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: Life is too short? Yeah, yeah, right, right, roten tomatoes.

1944
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: I just want to go on the record and say

1945
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to stand up specials because mine was at

1946
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: twelve percent because no one had gone there to rate it.

1947
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: So I don't know there are that show. There's definitely

1948
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: I've looked up shows there are no rating or there's

1949
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a credit rating. But the New York Times last year

1950
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: put out the forty best streaming Foreign streaming television shows.

1951
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is my Bible. Unbelievable. The Bureau was

1952
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: number three, number one. I don't know if you know.

1953
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: It's like Irving, Irving. I turned Irving onto Fauda. You

1954
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: watch Fauda. Well, these some of these is really show.

1955
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: You know. Here's a show, you know, on the verge

1956
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: of Hannaka. Uh the are you gonna light the candles? H? No,

1957
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm not No, I'm not either Unorthodox. Did you watch Unorthodox? Okay,

1958
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: of course I watched Unorthodox? Did you watch shrew Geen? Uh? No? Okay,

1959
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: this is a really good one. It's on Amazon. S

1960
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,839
Speaker 1: R g U I am. And it's about these modern

1961
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Orthodox people in Jerusalem. They're they have regular jobs, they're

1962
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 1: obeying all the you know, uh prescriptions, but they're looking

1963
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: for Mr. And mss right. One is a doctor. One

1964
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: is this It's really good? S aren't you? S s

1965
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: r U g I mka are you g Well? I'm

1966
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: glad you spelled it. What does that spell something in Hebrew.

1967
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly, but if we go to the top,

1968
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: put spiral. Now jumping to the other side, the number

1969
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 1: one show they had was called Prisoners of War. It

1970
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: is an ordeal. It's slowered first, but it is utterly amazing.

1971
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: But but you're still not telling me where to find

1972
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: these Okay, prisoners of War. I believe it's on Hulu okay.

1973
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: And then what about the Bureau Bureau is on a

1974
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Sundance Okay. And then there's another great French show called

1975
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 1: a French Village, which is about you know, I don't

1976
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 1: know if you're like me, I can never get enough Nazis.

1977
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,959
Speaker 1: But uh, it's the Nazis taking over a town in France.

1978
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: Now listen, Irving likes very fast paced stuff, so I

1979
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 1: have to ask you, there are some of these things

1980
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: that are slower paced like Irving. I'm not like Irving.

1981
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Irving has an attention span of a mosquito. I don't. Okay,

1982
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: that is a cornucopia of shows. Oh, and what is

1983
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: the Icelandic show. I've seen that Icelandic show, But wait,

1984
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: what's the one that takes place in at that French

1985
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: ski resort at the on that beautiful lake and the

1986
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,440
Speaker 1: background and it's a detective show, but it's the backdrop

1987
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: is that beautiful lake? Oh you're talking about Top of

1988
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: the Lake. No, no, no, not Top of the Lake.

1989
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: That was good too, though. Uh we're not talking about

1990
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: the Avalanche movie which was remade. No no, no, not

1991
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,839
Speaker 1: that man. You're talking about the series, a detective series

1992
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: and it takes place in a French town on a

1993
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: lake and it's called Lake something and it's not coming

1994
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: to me right now. It was great. You know, I've

1995
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: really watched almost did you watch The Returned which was

1996
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: also on That's not something I really highly recommended. Also

1997
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: another Israeli show with a less than stellar ending, but

1998
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: good on Netflix, When Heroes Fly. Oh I've never heard

1999
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, when Heroes Fly. Okay, well these are

2000
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot of good recommendation. Thank you, Bob. I got

2001
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: this is my thing because I don't want to waste

2002
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 1: a minute on television. Okay, I have to zero just

2003
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: like with you and the drugs, I have to zero

2004
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: in on what people's tastes are. I'll tell you two

2005
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 1: other shows that are so good but may not be

2006
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: up your ally. One is called Bonus Family, on Hulu.

2007
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 1: It's a sweetish show about a blended family. On the surface,

2008
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:23,440
Speaker 1: not interesting, but in reality it's about all the interactions

2009
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: of the different families. On the same tip, there's the

2010
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: A word on Amazon, which is you ever been to

2011
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: the Lake District in England? In England? Yeah, yeah, I'm

2012
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 1: in Manchester multiple times. They're in the Lake District. It

2013
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: is so beautiful. This is about people live in the

2014
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 1: Lake District find out their kid is autistic. You know

2015
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: these are This is humanity involving relationships. But so Spiral

2016
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: is a cop show better than any American cops show. Okay,

2017
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: and what is Spiral on Spiral? I think the first

2018
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: season is free on am is on then you have

2019
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: to buy Mega Hurts MHz, although it tells you right

2020
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: there what you have to do. All right, Well, I

2021
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of assignments from this podcast. I have

2022
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: a lot of books and television to get. Okay, as

2023
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: I say, I don't want to ultimately overload you, but

2024
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: if you can, I'm the most reachable person ever because

2025
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: my email addresses my email address. If you email me,

2026
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you a more comprehensive thing with the books

2027
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: and the shows. But the two books I recommended, etcetera.

2028
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 1: As I say, there are some other books this guy

2029
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Gary Steinart, Oh, Gary Steinart, Super Beautiful loved Suit, super

2030
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: trad love story. How did you like that? Um, that's

2031
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: not my style of book either, But I I can

2032
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: appreciate that. But I don't know. Super sad true love Story.

2033
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: I've read it. I thought it was overrated. But the

2034
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: most recent one, I've read all of them because is

2035
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 1: so good. The guy goes on it's an investment baker

2036
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 1: who goes on ha gira over the whole country looking

2037
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: for his old girlfriend and stuff like that. As I say,

2038
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 1: it's in a similar stole, but this works or the

2039
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: other one, I don't. I think I rean passed. Did

2040
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: you read all of kit Ridge? The woman in Maine

2041
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: who's icon of clastic didn't know. I have not read that.

2042
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Put this like this is well known't you? It's olive

2043
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: and you spelled kit Ridge. I know how to spell that.

2044
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: I've seen it. K I T T E R. As

2045
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: many people would say, ari e oh, I say, okay,

2046
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: I didn't notice. Okay, that's that's just a blue chip,

2047
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, like some like Happy Valley. Everybody loved that

2048
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's not low brow. Oh I read happy that.

2049
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: Oh you oh you mean that's a show? No? No,

2050
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: there was also for a funk the HBO Show with

2051
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: Francis McDorman. But you want to read the book, the

2052
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: only book. There's only a couple of appreciate you using

2053
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 1: that kind of language, Bob. Okay, there's only a couple

2054
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 1: of movie these that are better than the book because

2055
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:05,520
Speaker 1: of Dylan selling his stuff. Do you ever read any

2056
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 1: of of Michael Chayban's books. They're really highly reviewed. First

2057
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: one first one is Mysteries of Pittsburgh. Then there's the

2058
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: one about the Golem and all this stuff. I can't

2059
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 1: get into him, but I've read a lot of them.

2060
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 1: Wonder Boys. The movie is better than the book, which

2061
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: is the Forrest Gump. I think the movie was better

2062
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: than the book or tantum out to the book because

2063
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: they executed that very well. Did you read the book

2064
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: before or after you saw the movie? I read the

2065
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 1: book after and then Jaws I think also was a screenplay. Yeah,

2066
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I guess this is you know, he this is guy

2067
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: is a highly revered you know, it's real. I hate

2068
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: to use the term l like literature. Okay, We've covered

2069
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of subjects. We've covered skiing, We've covered books,

2070
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 1: We've covered irving, We've watched TV show, We've talked about

2071
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: your relationships. I don't want to be overbearing here, but

2072
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: it's fascin eating to talk to someone who's intelligent, has

2073
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: an opinion and is not afraid to verbalize it, and

2074
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: is also unafraid to challenge somebody. So uh, I think

2075
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: we've come to the end of the feeling we've known.

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Speaker 1: But I want to thank you so much for doing

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Speaker 1: this well. It was a pleasure of spending two hours

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Speaker 1: with you. This is the longest podcast I've ever done. Well,

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Speaker 1: As I say, that's why I would stop. We could

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Speaker 1: go for another couple of hours, like Joe Rogan, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think they'll be diminishing returns for

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Speaker 1: our I think so too, especially if you yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go in there. I'm just gonna take a shower

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Speaker 1: and stead until next time. This is Bob left Things