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Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your hostel shooter.

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Speaker 1: It's firstly one of my favorite days because idea friend

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Speaker 1: Mark Lupa joins us. Hey, Loopy, Hi.

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Speaker 1: And seeing you just as well, Mark, and I noticed

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Speaker 1: he You've got a very fresh haircut today, very dapper.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 1: Big story at the top of the show. So Did

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Speaker 1: his legal team wants those freak off videos to be

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Speaker 1: evidence to prove of that he is innocent. You heard

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Speaker 1: that right, Let me explain So Did. He and his

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Speaker 1: legal team are doubling down on his defense that these

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Speaker 1: free cuffs, which are at a center of the case

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Speaker 1: against him, is actually going to exonerate him. So in

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Speaker 1: our motion that they filed in New York Federal Court,

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Speaker 1: I have it here in front of me. Did his

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Speaker 1: at tourneys claim that the nine videos? Now we know

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Speaker 1: that we did not know that, Mark. We knew there

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Speaker 1: were videos, we didn't know how many. There are nine

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Speaker 1: videos in question. They involve his ex girlfriend, Cassie Ventura.

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Speaker 1: Now he claims that these videos demonstrate private sexual activity

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Speaker 1: between two consenting adults in a long term relationship. They're arguing, Mark,

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Speaker 1: if you review the videos, it's abundantly clear as what

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Speaker 1: they say that mister Combs is innocent. They argue that

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Speaker 1: the footage provided by Cassie, that's interesting too. Mark. For

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Speaker 1: the first time ever, we found out we now know

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Speaker 1: who gave them the sex tapes, the freak off tapes.

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Speaker 1: It was Cassie, is what Diddy is claiming in this

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Speaker 1: new motion. And they say that she is not only

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Speaker 1: consenting to sex in the videos, you can see that

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Speaker 1: she is enjoying herself. There are no secret cameras, they claim,

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Speaker 1: no orgies, no underground tunnels, no miners, just a consenting

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Speaker 1: couple having kinky sex which they claim might be a

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Speaker 1: totally totally legal. What an interesting strategy.

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Speaker 2: It is, and I don't think it's one that you know,

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Speaker 2: is unique. I think we've seen this before where I

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Speaker 2: think these lawyers try to negate the bigger picture here,

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Speaker 2: which is that she's made claims of rape, manipulation, corrosion,

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Speaker 2: that's speculation because she might have been feeling pressure to perform.

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Speaker 2: You might have been you know, the dynamic that exists

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Speaker 2: between them and an abusive relationship. It's very very complex,

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Speaker 2: and so that for us to determine that we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that if they show these tapes, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be almost impossible to say if it's forced

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Speaker 1: that this is not what she wanted. She didn't even

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Speaker 1: know if she was being filmed. Now, the more evidence, obviously,

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Speaker 1: things here. We find out in this motion that the tapes,

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Speaker 1: all these tapes we've been talking about for weeks, there's

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Speaker 1: nine of them, not one hundreds of them, not one

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Speaker 1: of them, nine of them, and all nine involved Cassie,

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Speaker 1: not other people. So all those claims about did he

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Speaker 1: tapes we have found so far. Maybe they do not exist.

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Speaker 1: That's what his team is claiming. What I thought was

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Speaker 1: fascinating too, is that now we know the cops FBI

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Speaker 1: not saying that makes a innocent or guilty. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's just another detail that makes the case

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Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein did something very similar. There were no tapes

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Speaker 2: You know, It's so hard to say because I think

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Speaker 2: the bigger picture. Again, there's been so many other people

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Speaker 2: we don't know what evidence exists outside of the nine

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Speaker 2: you know, I take this with with a pause, knowing

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot more to come here.

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Speaker 1: I like that we should take this with a pause.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to steal that expression market. It's a really

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Speaker 1: good expression. Take it with a pause. There's a lots

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Speaker 1: more evidence to come forward. There's lots more witnesses, people

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Speaker 1: that's going to be devastating. I spoke to a law

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Speaker 1: ten years now, and they're really, really good at this.

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Speaker 1: They said that the cops know the difference between a

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Speaker 1: and they can tell by the video. They can tell,

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Speaker 1: So did he? I guess it's the only card you

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Speaker 1: can play at this point. It's the only Hail Mary

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Speaker 1: Our question is quite simple. Will they release the tapes?

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Speaker 1: Will we ever get to see these tapes? I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we're taking a left turn here, but some

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Speaker 2: more drama for Ben Affleck, which we love. This time

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Speaker 2: it's involving the FBI cops and heated words.

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Speaker 1: Oh Ben, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, let me explain what's going on here. So Ben

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Speaker 2: Affleck was caught and the heated roadside showdown with police,

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Speaker 2: Park nearby. Paparazzi caught every fiery moment as Affleck pointed

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Speaker 1: He's so angry, Mark, He's just a ball of mat

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Speaker 1: a dictionary toxic masculinity, it's a picture of Ben Affleck.

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Speaker 1: It's just he's this guy, Mark. He's got millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's handsome, he's successful, he lives in a twenty million

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a solution to Ben's anger.

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Speaker 1: moving along, Hugh Jackman's wife. We spotted her out at

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know, I don't see this being

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna get ugly. She's gonna have to pay. Okay,

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Speaker 1: adding one point seven million in an extension. I say

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Speaker 1: good for her, Mark. I read today that she has

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Sham, your host

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Speaker 1: of Shuder with our dear friend Mark Lupo. Hey, LUPI.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the poles. Last year we talked about

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Speaker 1: it's her story. Mark. If she doesn't want to do it,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. I think I agree with you, and

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Speaker 2: Now, wow, it's Prince William, our nicest of the day.

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Speaker 2: So Prince William is making power moves as he's prepares

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Speaker 2: and among his plans, he's persuading possibly Prince Edward and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Louise and James they were offered royal titles,

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Speaker 1: So William's looking around and these two are lovely individuals.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's unfair to put Andrew and Harry

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Speaker 1: tell old book and leaving the family. However, I think too, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and you know this. I hate nicknames. I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like us when we call people nicknames. I

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. Nothing good comes from mocking other people.

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Speaker 1: It's a put down. That's what it is. It's a

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Speaker 1: if you don't give yourself the nickname loopy Lou, if

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Speaker 1: of rab. You gonna rub. I'm not here to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to be anything but my best. We

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Speaker 1: be honest, We're never gonna be perfect. I've worked with

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Speaker 1: they look. They look like that, just not quite as perfect.

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Speaker 1: So enjoy your floors, be who you are, look your best,

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Speaker 1: be your best, But don't try to be perfect, because

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Speaker 1: it's a goal that you are chasing that you will

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Speaker 1: You are perfect. Hey, that is it for today. Thank

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