1 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health. 2 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Jingle Bells. Jingle Bells. One Bill's Live is here. That's 3 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: all I got, Tasker, what do you think you need? 4 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: That's all we need. 5 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: We were talking right before we came on the network. Man, 6 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: he's got a black sweatshirt on, and I gotta like this. 7 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: I got a baseball jersey hoodie kind of thing on 8 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: with a Bill. But I looked like Bill Belichick. I 9 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: didn't know what. 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Are we doing? We a plan to wear some holiday 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: sweaters like Eve Eve. 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Eve Eve, kind of like Christmas weekend. Yeah, 13 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: and here we are in drab. Well it's casual Friday. 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's casual Friday. Maddie Glab filling in for 15 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Chris Brown alongside Steve Tasker. The Bills are on their 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: way to California. That's why Chris Brown is not here. 17 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Their wheels up I think very shortly, yeah. 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: Like one maybe maybe now. They were supposed to be there, 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: like reported in at twelve forty five today, so that's 20 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago. They won't be wheels up for another 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: It's been my experience between now and one thirty, they'll 22 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: be they'll be wheels up and out of here, out 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: of here. 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: We got the uh, the photos that dropped from the 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: guys walking onto the plane in there in their plane fits. 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: I gotta find Steph Diggs is rocking the cool fits? 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Is he? 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Yep, he's got some cool jacket on. And then dun 29 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Kin kid has some cool shoes. At Oliver had a 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Louis Vaton bag. You know, I love checking out what 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: the guy are wearing. 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you rock the style when you were getting 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: onto the plane. 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: When we traveled, Marv always made us say, it's a 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: business trip, so I go suit and tie. And some 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: of the old guys were like, you know, and some 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: of the guys, like my friend fred Smerlis, he would 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: like technically wear a tie, but he would have looked better. 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: And you know something else he totally was so he 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: was always in protest about something. So he would wear 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: this like tie that was like he would come down 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: like halfway down his chest like it was so tiny, 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: but it was all tai, you know, and it was 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: loosened at the top because he couldn't get around his neck, 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: couldn't get a shirt that fit around his neck and 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: his jacket looked like I gave him mine, you know, 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: for three hundred and twenty five pounds. Guy. So he 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: was always in pro But yeah, we always were in 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: suit and tie and guys. Yeah, it was And Marvey said, listen, 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: he goes and you know in college kids kids don't 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: have the money for a suit, right, Marv will come 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: in and say he would tell them right in the 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: first preseason game. Preseason, it's casual. So we get the 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: regular season, it's going to be a coat and type. 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: You don't have one, go buy one. 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. That was kind of 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: how the bills were before COVID. You would see a 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: lot more players rocking the suits for away games. But 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: then after COVID it got a little bit more casual. 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Some guys still rock the suits onto the plane and 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: into home games, which you know, looks really nice. You 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: do what you want to do, which I appreciate absolutely. 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was it was never like it is now. 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Nobody kicked. Nobody's out there looking at us when we 67 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: got to the stadium. A couple of people hanging over, Hey, 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: how you doing. You know, fashion, There no fashion, There 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: was none of that. 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: None of that stuff breaking down the look. 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Right, and if there had been, it had been interesting 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: because you know it had been back when we played, 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: it would have been starter jackets and Zubaz coming in. 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Hey those are in now too, right, it'd be starter 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: jackets are all the rage. 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: Man. 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people are probably getting those for Christmas. 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: It's funny. I my my nephew who lives in Kansas, 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: and my all my family are all of them, my brothers, 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: all their children, my mom and dad. They're all Bills 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: fans because of the history that we had watching me 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowls, go to the Pro Bowls 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: with us, everything, So they're all diehard Bills fans in 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Kansas with all the Chiefs fans. My nephew is like 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: redoing his house and he's going, I got guess what 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: I found? I go what he goes I found, and 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: I remember doing. I gave it to him because he's 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: a he's he's like huge, He's a huge dude. He's 89 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: six five and he's three Bills, big dog he could have. Yeah, 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: So I had given him a sideline jacket that Ted 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: Washington had given me, one of the hug Yes, yeah, 92 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: it goes over the pads and it comes down. It 93 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: was like it and it fit ted pretty well. You know, 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: even on ted it was big, but it was you know, 95 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: it had to go down over your hips and stuff. 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: So you and he found that it was still in 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: his house giving it to him, you know, way back 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: in the day, and he goes, yeah, look at it, 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: and it looked great. Still look great. 100 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: That's a that's a collector's item right there. 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: Think about that. The thing is huge because when I 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: put it on with no pads on, it went all 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: the way it went down to between my knee and 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: like halfway down my shin is how low it hung. 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: And because he you know, back then we had big 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: shoulder pads, not like today. And its Yeah, well. 107 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: Bills aren't going to need any of those jackets as 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: they head to California for a nice weather game, and frankly, 109 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: if they were playing here in Buffalo too, it wouldn't 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: be bad as well. Fifties this weekend for Christmas weekend, 111 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy for those who don't like snow. 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: You got your wish. I'm of the opinion where it 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: would be a little bit nice to have a white Christmas, 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: but alas here we are no problems at all. And 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: before you guys got off the air yesterday, we are. 116 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: Right after you got off the air yesterday, we got 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: the practice injury update report heading into so let's go 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: ahead and read that off. We'll start with the bills here, 119 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: and Kayir Elam was ruled questionable with his ankle as 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: he still returns. He's in his practice window to return 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: from ir aj Apanessa questionable with that rib injury. Mike 122 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: High declared out with that stinger, that neck injury that 123 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: he has. Who else questionable? Ty Johnson questionable with the 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: shoulder injury, Daikwon Jones questionable with the peck he was 125 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: His practice window was opened this week, which is amazing 126 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: because Jordan Phillips now goes onto IR after he just 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: got surgery after the Cowboys game, so he'll be out 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks at least with the IR designation. 129 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: And then Justin Shorter, whose practice window was also opened, 130 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: he was declared out so he won't return to the 131 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: active roster just yet. It was awesome to see James 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: Cook was back at practice on Thursday. He did not 133 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday with an illness, so good to see 134 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: him back in the facility and good to go for 135 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: Saturday's game against the Chargers. So nothing too crazy there. 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, aj Apanessa, if he's not going to be 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: in the lineup, bummer there, because I think with Jordan 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Phillips out, I know, you know, different positions, but the 139 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: rotation that they do at the defensive line, you're gonna 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: want as many guys as you can get, especially with 141 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips out of the lineup. Dai Kwon Jones still 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: working his way back to full health. And if you 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: look at the Chargers injury report, Keenan Allen was declared 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: out with a heel injury. He'll miss his second straight game. 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: And then Joey Bosa, who had his practice window opened 146 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: yesterday to return from ir dealing with a foot injury. 147 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: He is not going to play in this one either. 148 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: And the Chargers just waived one of their starting defensive 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: linemen who was also named a captain earlier this season, 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: in Sebastian Joseph Day. So that might be a name 151 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: on the radar for some teams making a playoff push 152 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: to look at the guys had three sacks this season. 153 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: Twelve solo tackles. He's six four three ten out of 154 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Rutgerses sixth year And you're right, I mean, this is 155 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: it seems he seems like a solid guy. He was 156 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: a captain. He's doing I have no I have not 157 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: heard the reason why they have, you know, released him. 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the reason was, whether he's unhealthy, 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: whatever it was, I have no idea. So it's gonna 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: that's interesting because if you know, one of. 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: The if they waived him, so he's he's gonna be 162 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: free agent. 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: So it'll be really interesting to see what happens to 164 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: him and whether he lands with another team. And thirty 165 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: games he played with the with the Chargers, yeah, I 166 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know. 167 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: A little bit interesting there. You wonder, okay, you've got 168 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: an interim head coach, Brandon Staley is no longer the 169 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: head coach of that team. It's the Chargers first game 170 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: without him, and you wonder if are they starting to 171 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: make moves already to look a certain way as they 172 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: head into the off season. They haven't had the season 173 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: that they have wanted to, So is that why you're 174 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: releasing players like that? Are you trying to, you know, 175 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: look down the road there? It's a little bit interesting. 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: They've been you know, the roster because of all the 177 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: injuries they've had and the stuff that's going on over there. 178 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: They've made some roster moves, like they signed quarterback Will 179 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: Greer from New England's practice squad. This was three days ago, 180 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: and the same time they signed Cameron tom to the 181 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: active roster from their practice squad. Then they and that's 182 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: when they had to put Will Clap, their regular center 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: guard on injured reserve, and they let quarterback Max Dugan go, 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: so Will Greer. It replaced Max Dugan at quarterback on 185 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: their depth chart, and they signed the center Brent Lang, 186 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: who we spoke about that yesterday with Brownie. But so 187 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: the the Chargers are shuffling the deck and certainly they 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: know their heat. Front office knows that they're you know, 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: their seasons done. They're not going to the playoffs. And 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting that for me, a guy like the guy 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: they just the guy they just released, I don't know 192 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: what the rationale is for that. It's a horrible message 193 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: to send to the locker room. And you know, I 194 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: get that, you know they're they're what are they trying 195 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: to get ready for? I mean, they have no idea 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: who their next head coach is going to be. They 197 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: probably have some guys on a short list, even guys 198 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: who are now coordinators, play callers, you know, all of 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. Uh, it's really interesting to see this. And 200 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: I'll say this too, And I don't want to put 201 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: a listen. Nobody's listened to me on the team, so 202 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not jinxing anybody. This is a team 203 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: that Bills could should curb stomp. I mean curb stomp. 204 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: They should absolutely punish this team. They got injuries, they 205 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: they're head coach there. And I'll say this too, I 206 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: don't think that Brandon Stately was one of those head 207 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: coaches that all the players are like stewing about you 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: hating him, you know. So I don't think they're gonna 209 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: be like be like yeah, or he's gone, let's play. 210 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, they let the head coach go. 211 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 5: You know. 212 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: It's more I don't I don't think. 213 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna yeah exactly, I don't think 214 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna do that. But this this thing where they 215 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: let this you know, Sebastian Joseph Day go, There's something 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't get. And as they start to and let's 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: face it, the entire Chargers franchise now is focusing on 218 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the offseason with their head 219 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: coaching change and their GM change, and who they're going 220 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: to hire first, what their philosophy is going to be 221 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: going forward, whether this head coach is going to be 222 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: able to do some things that other head coaches in 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: that franchise history have not been able to do. There's 224 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: a ton of question marks swirling around that franchise along 225 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: with all the injuries. Keenan Allen's out, Sebastian Joseph Day 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: just got waived. The only player that Khalil mack is 227 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: the only guy they've. 228 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: Got mister fifteen Sackson who has. 229 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: Really played well this year, and behind him that seems 230 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: to be it. It's a train wreck over there, and 231 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: there's no way that the Bills should go in there 232 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: and do anything but dominate, particularly given the way they're 233 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: playing offense. 234 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've won, they've lost five of their last six. 235 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: The Charters have. Their one win in their last six 236 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: weeks was against the Patriots six to nothing win, which 237 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: is not like you really put any points on the 238 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: scoreboard and can really hang your hats on a big 239 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: victory and anything like that. That happened week thirteen, December 240 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: third was that game and the Chargers season. The rest 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: of their season looks like they'll face the Bills on Saturday, 242 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: then they've got a game against the Broncos. They'll head 243 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: two Denver for that game, and then they finish out 244 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: the season with a game against the Kansas City Chiefs. 245 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: They're five and nine on the year, so yeah, you're 246 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: probably at this point kind of looking into the offseason. 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: They've got Easton Stick as their quarterback. He's played a 248 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: game and a half. He had some garbage time points 249 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: against the Raiders. His stat line looks pretty decent if 250 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: you're just looking at his stats of what he did 251 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: against the Raiders, but they didn't score against the Raiders 252 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: at sixty three to twenty one loss blowout almost by 253 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: the Raiders there. The Chargers did not score until the 254 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: third quarter of that game, so those are garbage time 255 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: points that he was able to put up. But we'll 256 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: see what he's got in store for the Bills. This 257 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: defense has been playing well, even though they've had their 258 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: own slew of injuries and will still have some guys out. Yeah, 259 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: I would assume the Bills are definitely capable of running 260 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: up the scoreboard and allowing few points against the Chargers, 261 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: knowing what they have done this season the Chargers have 262 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: and knowing what the Bills have done in the last 263 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: few games. Now you have that interim head coach, and 264 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: you wonder, okay, his first game, give Smith, the outside 265 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: linebackers coach who will be coaching for the Chargers in 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: this one as their interim head coach and finishing out 267 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: the season. You wonder in that first game, okay, are 268 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: you gonna get some energy? Are you gonna get some 269 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: juice out of this team? And like you said, it 270 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like this team was against Brandon Stalian is 271 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: happy to see him gone, So who knows if that 272 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: energy's gonna be there. Interesting stat that I found, according 273 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: to Fox Sports wrote an article before the Raiders head 274 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: coach got let go and updated the stat that they had. 275 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Interim head coaches are sixteen and twelve in their first 276 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: game since twenty ten. So that's a winning record, not 277 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: a crazy winning record, sixteen and twelve, but they have 278 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: one more than they've lost. Not saying that's going to 279 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: be the case. For the game on Saturday, But it 280 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: is an interesting stat I do think the Bills are 281 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: playing at a lot higher level than the Chargers are. 282 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: I believe they've figured things out on offense, and their 283 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: defense has done a good job with the guys that 284 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: they've had a part of the lineup, even with those injuries, 285 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: and I would assume that this offense is going to 286 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: continue to stay hot. I mean, we saw what James 287 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Cook did last week, We've seen what Joe Brady has 288 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: gotten out of this offense, and I would guess it's 289 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: going to continue because if you look at the Chargers 290 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: numbers on defense, some of them are not good. They're 291 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the NFL at defending 292 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: the pass. They ranked near the bottom of the NFL 293 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: yeah thirtieth allowing two hundred sixty one passing yards per game, 294 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: twenty eighth allowing seven and a half over seven and 295 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: a half passing yards per attempt. They've only taken away 296 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: seven balls in terms of interceptions, that ties ties for 297 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, near the bottom of the league. They allow 298 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: big plays more than almost any other team. They've allowed 299 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: sixty four plays of twenty or more yards, so. 300 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: They six the sacks sacks gotten, I mean. 301 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: They get to the quarterback. That's one of their few 302 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: stats where they're ranked top ten on defense. So they 303 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: know how to pressure the quarterback because they have Khalil Mack. 304 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: They have some other guys who have been doing a 305 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: good job. But they allow a lot of passing yards. 306 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: They've allowed a lot of passing touchdowns, and they are 307 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: not great in the red zone rank middle of the 308 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: NFL rank middle of the NFL, and third down defense. 309 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: So I would assume that the Bills are going to 310 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: be able to lean on their air raid offense in 311 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: this one and find some success through that. 312 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also it's interesting and we kind of knew that. 313 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: You know over here, we remember when the Chargers were 314 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: waiting on so FI to get finished. They were playing 315 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: in the soccer stadium and every game they had was 316 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: a home game. It was an away game. Even the 317 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Bills Mafia went out there and played out there, and 318 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: it was a total road game for for what then 319 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: was the La Chargers, San Diego Chargers, whatever you call them. 320 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: They're this year. The Chargers are two and five at home, 321 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: two and five in their own building, and they're they're 322 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: better on the road. They're three and four on the road. 323 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: So it's that continues to be a problem for l A. 324 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: And then when they go home, all these teams, like 325 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: all all the Bills fans are going out to LA 326 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: for them, Maybe it might not be this bad because 327 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: maybe people don't want to travel to a game for Christmas. 328 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, although you get back on Christmas evening, you 329 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: have Christmas back in Western New York if if you want, 330 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some Bills fans that are from out 331 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: there as well. But uh, this, yeah, this franchise in 332 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: LA right now, the Chargers is rudderless. And uh it 333 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: does not you look down that their roster too. You 334 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: give the Bills, obviously, you give the Bills the Edgit quarterback. 335 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: The Bill's offensive line is better, their defensive line is 336 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: better because without Bosa, it's Khalil Mack and that's about it. 337 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: And and they just cut their captain, Sebastian Choseph Day. 338 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: The secondary you can save is a little more even 339 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: perhaps Bill's linebackers. I think they've proven themselves over the 340 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: course of this year to be as good as anybody 341 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: in the league, particularly the Chargers linebackers. Defensively, the Bill's 342 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: defensive line should be better than their the Charger offensive line. Goodness, gracious, you. 343 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Know you got a backup quarterback in there. 344 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: You got a backup quarterback, a backup head coach. You've 345 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: got the Bill's tight ends. I would put up against 346 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: any group in the in the league. Without Keenan Allen. 347 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler hasn't been having a great season. 348 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: James Cook's better. James Cook is better than Austin Eckler, 349 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, And without Keenan Allen, you got Steph Diggs 350 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: alone would outshine their wide receiver course, let alone with 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Shakir and the rest of them with Sherfield, Gabe Davis, 352 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm this is one of those 353 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: games where Bills fans are gonna be more anxious about 354 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: not giving this game away than they are about that 355 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: team being better than the Bills. This is one of 356 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: those games where you go, just just get off to 357 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: a good start. Please just get off to a good start, 358 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: and we'll see that in the early going. It's yeah, 359 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: this is late in the year. You occasionally get a 360 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: game like this where you don't know what to make 361 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: of this other team. You know, there's no film on 362 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback, no knowledge about the head coach, what he's 363 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: saying to his team. They're ravaged by injury. 364 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: It's also a conference opponent. I mean, you want the 365 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: Bills to be able to stack these conference wins right 366 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: now because you don't know what's going to happen with 367 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: these other teams that were rooting for to lose or 368 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: rooting for to win. We're kind of still doing that 369 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: at this point in the season. We're hoping the Miami 370 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Dolphins lose to the Dallas Cowboys this weekend. That would 371 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: be a big thing for the Bills. The Dolphins also 372 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: still have to face the Ravens, so you're hoping that 373 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: they can keep stacking wins. At eight and six right now, 374 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: their playoff chances look good, look a lot better. But 375 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: you're still leaning on other teams to do things to 376 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: help the Bills get in. I know some things could 377 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: happen this weekend to where the Bills might be able 378 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: to then control their destiny ahead, but you're still rooting 379 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: for things to happen this weekend. We've got a who 380 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: to Root For article that is going to go out 381 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, so you guys can get straight with Okay, 382 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: am I rooting for this team? Am I cheering for 383 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: this team to lose? What am I doing? Because we 384 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: are going to be scoreboard watching this weekend? And the 385 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: Bills are two and four on the road this year. 386 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you want to see that record get better too. 387 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: You talk about the Chargers not being great at home, 388 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: the Bills haven't been great on the road. It would 389 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: be nice to see them kind of get even there 390 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: sitting at three and four with the win. 391 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: Over the Chargers. 392 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: And I'll say this to I know, Bills fans have 393 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: got to be uncomfortable with even with you and I 394 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: talking about how this matchup favors Buffalo. I mean, it's 395 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: it's almost like begging to be humbled when you talk 396 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: like this. But you got I'll just say, Bills, you 397 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: got to know what you're getting into. This is a 398 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: team that they should beat, no question about it. They 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: got to play well to do it. We can all 400 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: go in there and say I hate talking like that, 401 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: but this is one of the few games you do 402 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: that with and you got to get your mind around it. 403 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable to talk in these terms when when you're 404 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: going out to face a team that can't get out 405 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: of its own way and just fired their head and 406 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: they got all these problems. It's a train wreck out there. 407 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: They're an absolute dumpster fire. And the thing you got 408 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: to know is that nobody who we were just talking 409 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: about is flying out on that charter flight this afternoon 410 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: is and like we're thinking, I know that they're. 411 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 4: Gonna this is a we've best game. 412 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: Yes they're confident there, but they are they are. Their 413 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: jaw is set, they are like, let's go, we got 414 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: let's They're they're focused on this game, getting themselves in 415 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: a position where they can get in the tournament and 416 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: play like this throughout. So you know, while we're sitting 417 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: here talking like this, like you know, we sound kind 418 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: of pompous and arrogant or whatever it is that like 419 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game, we should win this game, 420 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: the team is not doing that. They're gonna They're gonna 421 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: show up and they're gonna play well. I have every 422 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: They rarely, they rarely don't they get beat. 423 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, they've scored over thirty points in the 424 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: in three out of the last four games. This offense 425 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: looks back to its normal ways of what we know 426 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: they're capable of doing. We hope that continues, and I 427 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: think what we've seen out of this team in the 428 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: last few weeks at this point, I've been thinking this 429 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: week of like, I cannot imagine this team not being 430 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, just with the way that they're playing. 431 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: They're they're on a heater. People are saying, you know, 432 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: you do not want to play the Bills in the playoffs. 433 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: This is a team that you don't want to get 434 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: in the playoffs because they're heating up at the right time. 435 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: They're finding their stride at the right time. Their identity 436 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: is forming. Doesn't matter when it happens, it just has 437 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: to happen at the end of the season. It's okay, 438 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: you know if the beginning of the year, you know, 439 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: it's a little here there everywhere as you're trying to 440 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: figure out what's going on. What matters is getting into 441 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: the dance. We knew that, and they're starting to. They're 442 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: starting to look like this team that we knew they 443 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: could look like consistently that We've got to see that 444 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: the last few weeks. But I cannot imagine this team 445 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: not being a part of the postseason with the way 446 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: they're playing. 447 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: He thought that too. If you think back, last year 448 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: was like this and this year to a large extent, 449 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: was like this as well. I do not care about 450 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the regular season. This is a this is a team 451 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: that is about the playoffs. That is the that's like 452 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: that whatever, monkey, We got to get off the back, right. 453 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: You got to get to the championship game again and 454 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: play well in that game. You gotta get You got 455 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: to get a home playoff game or two. You got 456 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: to get in the playoff. But you got to get 457 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: in the play that's the thing. Let's get this done 458 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: so we can get to what's really important to Bills fans, right, 459 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: and that's the playoffs and getting deep and getting a 460 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: chance to go to Vegas. That's what it is. 461 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: The way you look at the conference, I look at 462 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: the conference, it's like there is nobody that has solidified 463 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: themselves as like, this is the team who has been 464 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: steamrolling every other team and this is the golden child 465 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: up here. Everybody's kind of in the middle together. You 466 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: see all the eight and six records. When you look 467 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: at the playoff rankings, there's a lot of teams that are, 468 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, kind of clogging up the middle. There and 469 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: you want the Bills to move up in the in 470 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: the playoff standings and the AFC. Of course, hopefully that 471 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: happens this weekend. But I look at this team and 472 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: the conference as a whole. You get into the playoffs, shoot, 473 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: I think you can run the table. 474 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the only thing that gets in the way 475 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: of that, and we've talked about a little bit, we 476 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit yesterday, is the fact 477 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: that that means if the Bills go and all our 478 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: hopes and dreams come true, that means they will have 479 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: won one, two, three, four, five, and a wild card 480 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: game would be six, a Division round would be seven, 481 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: AFC Championship would be eight, and then the Super Bowl 482 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: as nine straight wins. It's a big task. It's a 483 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: big tall order. Now, when you get to the super Bowl, 484 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: you get that extra week too, so that's a bye 485 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: week and you get healthy and you have So that's 486 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: not the same as grinding it out for nine weeks 487 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: of the regular season within o buy. But that's it's 488 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: a tall order. It's a long way to go, and 489 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: that does get in the way of saying how easy 490 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: it would be to envision, plus if they are able 491 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: to get into into the playoffs. We have no idea 492 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: what that gauntlet's going to look like. You're not gonna 493 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: be playing the Chargers on the road. You know, you're 494 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna be playing the Chiefs, the Ravens, you know all 495 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: these other teams. You're gonna be playing those jokers. You're 496 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: gonna be playing the Chiefs or the Ravens. 497 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: Where you could see the Dolphins, could Jacksonville the Jacksonville 498 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: Jaguars again. 499 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: You might even play Miami or Cleveland or Cincinnati again, 500 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: who knows, but that's you know, you're not gonna play 501 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: the five and nine struggling Chargers with an interim head coach. 502 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be playing Andy and Pat, Andy Reid and 503 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes again. You know you're gonna be playing those jokers, 504 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: or you're gonna be playing somebody you haven't seen yet, 505 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: like the Baltimore Ravens, who are who have been really 506 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: eleven and three right now? 507 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, tip your hat at the top. 508 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: They've solidified themselves at the top spot. 509 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You get to the playoffs and you're 510 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: asking for a nine game winning streak starting two weeks ago, 511 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: which you got two of them. So you're asking for 512 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: another seven games left and against you know, John Harbaugh 513 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid. You know, it's a tall order. 514 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: It is. I feel good about it. I feel good 515 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: with where this team is at, with what they've shown us, 516 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: and with the health they're getting guys back off, ir 517 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: guys are getting healthy. I know, we just had Jordan 518 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: Phillips get surgery, but you're not seeing too many guys, 519 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, with new big injuries that are taking them 520 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: out for the rest of the season. So I think 521 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. You're starting to get health on 522 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: your side. There. We've got a lot a lot left 523 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: in the show. 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Visit Buffalo bills dot com slash tsee Tasker. 540 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: All right, This week's excuse me, mister Tasker comes from Greg. 541 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: He says, Hey, mister Tasker, your teammates all seem to 542 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: be lifelong friends of each other beyond the talent. Do 543 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: you think you care about each other because the team 544 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: won so many games? Or did you guys win so 545 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: many games because you cared about each other? Good question, It. 546 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Is a good question, and it is true. I mean, 547 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: I have a tech sloop with that we're all in 548 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: with with Jim Kelly, Thurman, Thomas, Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, 549 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Chris Moore, myself, Darryl Tally, Will Woolford. There's like eight 550 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: of us, and I referred to it all the time 551 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: as the five Presidents because all those because those guys are. 552 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Like the mount Rush and I think it goes off 553 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: like crazy during. 554 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Games during games there. Yes, and anyway, so yes, we 555 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: are from We've vacationed together with our wives, a bunch 556 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: of us and yeah, we are close friends. And I'll 557 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: say this. Our team had a reputation. We were very talented. Uh, 558 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: even when I got here in eighty six. Then in 559 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: eighty seven when Marveley, after Marve's first game was kind 560 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: of disrupted by the eighty seven players strike, so we 561 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: didn't I don't. We didn't make the playoffs that year. 562 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: Then in eighty eight we went twelve and four and 563 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: got that's when we got Thurman. Uh, we got I 564 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: think we got Thurman. In eighty seven or eighty eight, 565 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: we got Cornelius Bennett, and we were really good and 566 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: we went twelve and four and eighty eight because we 567 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: were really talented. But then in nineteen eighty nine we 568 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: had kind of the same crew, but we weren't very good, 569 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: and we were called the Bickering Bills. Jim and because 570 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: Jim and Bruce didn't you know, they didn't hang out. 571 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: Daryl didn't know Daryl didn't hang out. I mean, they 572 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: just they just weren't friends. So we were we were 573 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: up and down, struggling, struggling, and we you know, we 574 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: were so talented we couldn't help but win games. We 575 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: were like nine and seven that year, made it to 576 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs as a wild card and went to Cleveland. 577 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: It was the game some of the old timers like 578 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: me will remember. It's the Ronnie Harmon when Ronnie dropped 579 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: the corner route and then the next played Jim threw 580 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: a pick and Matthew shape Matthews intercepted it, so we 581 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: were out of the game. So we got to the 582 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: end of nineteen eight and we were the bickering Bills, 583 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: and it was it was the most least fun season 584 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: of my entire career because it was a tension filled 585 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: locker room and it was hard to go to where 586 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: it just wasn't any fun. Guys didn't like each other. 587 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: And so we had three games left in the season 588 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: and if we won them all, we were in. You know, 589 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: if we won them all, we were going to be 590 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: ten and six and we were going to be in. 591 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: So we get out and we go to San Francisco 592 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and the Jets and somebody else. And before we go 593 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, we'd lost a game or whatever, and 594 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Jim reached out to I think reached out to Bruce 595 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: and said, hey, after this this last game we went 596 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: the week before the three games, he goes, why come 597 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: over the house and we'll pop a bottle of wine 598 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: and play some you know, because Jim was a big, 599 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, single rock star lived in the house over 600 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: in Hillsboro, and you know, he was by himself over there. 601 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: He had his buddy and stuff. But so Bruce goes over, 602 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: and Biscuit goes over, Daryl goes over, and Kent Hall 603 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: goes over, and those guys kind of hang out for 604 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: a minute and they start to realize, you know, how 605 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: much they respected each other. So then when those guys 606 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: started to hang out, you could feel the tension in 607 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: the locker room just go away. I mean, it was 608 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: just it was like night and day. It was like, 609 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, they started talking to each in front of 610 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: all of us. They would they would talk and have 611 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: conversations like yeah yeah, and friendly conversations. Right, So it 612 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: was a completely different atmosphere when these two who turned 613 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: out to be first ballot Hall of Famers you know, 614 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: turned into buddies. And it didn't hurt that. You know, 615 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: Bruce was black and Jim was white, and they were 616 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: and so the rest of us were like putting arms 617 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: around each other and we and all of a sudden, 618 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: the team went from being these this bickering bunch of 619 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: guys to buddies. So those last three game, we didn't 620 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: win all three of them, but we won two of them, 621 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: and then we got some help and we got in 622 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: and we went to Cleveland and we lost the game 623 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: thirty fourth. It was a great and one of the 624 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: all time great games. It's a tremendous game back and 625 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: forth Bernie Cozar and Jim Kelly. It was the game 626 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of people remember, Don b Beebe got 627 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: dumped on his head. A lot of stuff happened in 628 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: that game. In fact, for me it was a bummer 629 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: because I might have made Metcalf runs one back on 630 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: us on a kickoff, it's the distance right, and we lose. 631 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: So I was like, so that season ended and those 632 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: guys were buddies. And then when we came back in 633 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, of course everybody we didn't know how good 634 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: we could be, but we come back in nineteen ninety 635 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we're a team that goes 636 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: a four straight and in large measure, we were the 637 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: same talent team, but we turned the corner because we 638 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: became friends and liked each other. So his question was, 639 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: do we win a lot of games because we liked 640 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: each other? Do we like each other because we won 641 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot of games. Once you get into it, it's 642 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: hard to tell the difference. But in my estimation, the 643 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: camaraderie and the fact that they all loved each other, 644 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: trusted each other and respected each other, and you know, 645 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: every at the entire offense, defense, old veterans, young guys, 646 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: black guys, white guys, guys from the South, guys from 647 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: the Northeast, guys from the West coast, it didn't matter, 648 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: guys from big time colleges, guys from Wabash. You know, 649 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: they were all in it together. And I think that 650 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: was that was the catalyst that made that team different. 651 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: And it's still different today. So and answer your question, no, 652 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: you don't. There's talent everywhere in the National Football League, 653 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: but when it's a family, and then when it's guys 654 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: who and we had, you know, and then Jim started 655 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: having everybody over to his house. It wasn't just a 656 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: handful of guys. Not only then he had all those 657 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: guys and it was great. And then then after that, 658 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: because then you know, like me, I got three older brothers, 659 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: they're all coming to games and stuff, my mom and dad, 660 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: and I'm one of fifty guys on the team that 661 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: have that going on. And so Jim goes, hey, and 662 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: he always said every time he'd come around and see 663 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: everybody in the locker rooms, hey, come to the house tonight. 664 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: We're all going to be there. And I said, hey, Jim, 665 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: I'd lie, I can't, man, I got my fam, my buddy, 666 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: my brothers are in town. And you know that, he goes, 667 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: bring them, we have them come over. They're fine. I 668 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: was like what, he goes, yeah, yeah, bring them along. 669 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: So then you got, you know, my brother's coming in 670 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: my college buddies. Then you know, can't hold his father 671 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: in laws in there, his mom and dad, you know, 672 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: his family, his buddies from college, his guy's from Starksville, Mississippi, 673 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: and this guy's buddies from LA And you know, we 674 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: had every everybody shows up and all you needed was 675 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: a player to you know, bring you along, and so 676 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: then we got to know each other's families. It wasn't 677 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: just me and you as teammates. It was me and 678 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: you and your husband or his wife and her brother 679 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: and my brother and they and then they all became friends. 680 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: So it grew and it became Look, when we take 681 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: the field, it was and just us playing for each other, 682 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: is me playing for you and your family. So that 683 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: I think that kind of depth carried us through some 684 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty rough times and some hard games, and carried us 685 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: through to some successes that maybe we wouldn't have had otherwise. 686 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: So when when Sean McDermott comes to Buffalo and he 687 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: says culture Trump's tactics, He's right. You got guys that 688 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: love each other and trust each other and know what's 689 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: going on. Then you get guys like Poy you're in 690 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: hide back there, who are doing stuff nobody's seen before, 691 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: right because they they're you know, sympatico thing going. You 692 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: know what you're thinking, I'm already thinking, and we'd go 693 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: and you don't have to talk about it, and that 694 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: spreads through a whole team, and all of a sudden 695 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: you're doing things nobody knew about. That's what you know 696 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: That's why culture is a thing in the NFL, and 697 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: it does matter, and it makes a team better and 698 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: it makes a team attractive to come in as a 699 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: free agent. So, yeah, that we were good because we 700 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: were friends and loved and respected each other. The talent 701 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: at this level is a given. Every team's got guys 702 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: like that, but not every team is a family. 703 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 704 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: I just talked to Dion Dawkins today on the phone 705 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: because I'm working on a story about him, and I 706 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: was asking him about, you know, the offensive line play 707 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: this season and why they're playing really well. Health is 708 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: one reason, and another reason, he said, is we do 709 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: things outside of the facility together, not that they hadn't before, 710 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: but he said, this is a group that is just 711 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: a tight group, and he thinks, you know, that's a 712 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: big reason why they are playing the way that they're playing, 713 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: why they're blocking so well, why they're opening things up 714 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: for Jimbo Cooks and keeping the pocket clean for a 715 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: guy like Josh Allen. And you talk about Sean McDermott 716 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: and the culture that he set, I think one really 717 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: cool thing about that culture is if you walk into 718 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: the locker room, guys are seated next to each other 719 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: who are not in the same position group, who are 720 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: not on offense, not all the offensive guys together, not 721 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: all the defensive players together. If you go in the 722 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: locker room, it's like a safety is next to a 723 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 2: wide receiver or a wide receiver or a special team 724 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: or is next to a cornerback, and the locker room 725 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: is all jumbled up like that. And it's because guys 726 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: can form relationships with each other who are not a 727 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: part of the same position group. 728 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Right. We had thought too that everybody said, well, being 729 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, man, one of the positives about being in Buffalo, 730 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: and all of us here in Western New York we 731 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: know this. It's not like it is in Los Angeles. 732 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: You've got guys on the same team. In Los Angeles, 733 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: they'll live ninety minutes apart. True, they can't. They don't 734 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: ever see you in Buffalo. What are you fifteen minutes 735 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: from each other atops? Yeah, you can like run run 736 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: down the street to your teammate's house and not even 737 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: have to drive home. That was always a plus, we thought, 738 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: because no matter where the guys live, I mean we 739 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: most of us lived in the South town somewhere down here. 740 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: We were never more than ten or fifteen minutes from 741 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: like eight guys, Right, So we hung out a lot 742 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: off the field, and that that's that's a big deal. 743 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: And it's not because it's not the way it can't 744 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: have is in other teams cities just because of how 745 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: big they are, the traffic traffic pattern, you know, like 746 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: if you're in La Man, you can it's it's impossible 747 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: to get around down there, right, It's I mean, so 748 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: you may be twenty miles from one of your teammates, 749 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: it's a two hour drive. 750 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also a million distractions out there, right, So 751 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: things that can keep you away from hanging out with 752 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: guys on your team. Whether you want to go do XYZ, 753 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: you can do it all. You can do a lot 754 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: in Buffalo too. In order part two, not saying there's 755 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 2: not a lot to do here, but guys tend to 756 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: hang out a lot together. 757 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: They get more opportunities in a bigger in a multimillion 758 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: person city than they do here in Buffalo. They're just 759 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: a lot more demand for the form. So it's it's 760 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: a detriment to their ability to get together outside of 761 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: the facility, whereas here in Buffalo, like in Green Bay 762 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: and smaller like New Orleans is like that as well. 763 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: Jacksonville might be a little bit like that as well. 764 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: But it's it makes a huge difference for the team. 765 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: And it's a great question from Greg because I hadn't 766 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: really thought. I always thought, wow, it's both, it's not. 767 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: But for me, when I really sat down thought about 768 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: an answer to this question, that team won because those 769 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: guys were friendly, were more than friends. And yeah, and 770 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: I and I'm still friends with those guys, So it's cool. 771 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: It's a good question. 772 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: And you see it with this group too. I mean 773 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: you you turn on a micd up that we do 774 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: and you hear all the time these guys telling each 775 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: other that they love each other. And that's not an 776 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: easy thing to do for men, to just be like, 777 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: I love you, bro, let me, let me put my 778 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: arms around you. I love you so much. I love 779 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: you because you're on this team. I love you because 780 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: the person that you are. But this group is is 781 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 2: a tight group here in Buffalo, and we hope because 782 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: of that they can win a lot of games. I mean, 783 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: they're on a tear right now. Let's keep it going 784 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: all right, break time for us. When we come back, 785 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: we'll get to the phones. We got Greg Cosell coming 786 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 2: up at two o'clock as well, so don't go anywhere here. 787 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live, We're presented by Clydehealth. On Buffalo 788 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: Bills Radio, James Cook is on fire, as Josh Allen says, 789 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 2: let James Cook. To celebrate another away game week, We're 790 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: giving away assigned James Cook football. Enter today at Buffalo 791 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: bills dot com slash give away for your chance at 792 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: winning assigned football. We love that. All right, let's go 793 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 2: to the phones. Joe from Atlanta. You've been hanging on 794 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: for a long time, so let's get right over to you. 795 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 2: How's it going, Joe, Yeah. 796 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 3: Mary, Mary, Christmas, guys stay. Thanks for sharing that with 797 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,479 Speaker 3: us prior to the break, because I was a part 798 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: of that as a fan. Awesome, but I appreciate that. 799 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm from Atlanta, originally from Amherst. I'm now living at Malanta. 800 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy four we moved to Atlanta, but the year 801 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: before seventy three we had season ticket the first year 802 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: of rich Stadium, the build opened up five and five 803 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: won the last four ended up nine and five missed 804 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 3: the playoff in seventy four. As you know we've played 805 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in the playoffs, but I was calling to say, hey, 806 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: if Sean McDermott would treat the team with a winds 807 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: Sunday and say, hey, guys, you're off Sunday through Wednesday, 808 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 3: that might motivate them. 809 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: Ooh, what do you think about that? Tasker? 810 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, I'm pretty sure that's probably on 811 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: the docket. I don't know if it's all the way 812 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: to Wednesday, but you'll probably get a victory Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, 813 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe, yeah, he knows that, believe me. 814 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 3: I hope that he worked set out because that would 815 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: be a good treat for the team. 816 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: Joe, Joe, how many times you think Josh and and 817 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins have gotten shown off the side and say, hey, 818 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, it'd be nice to get off till Wednesday 819 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: if we win this game on christ They probably they 820 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: were talking about that since training camp. So yeah, that's 821 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: on the dock, and I don't know how long they'll 822 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: get off, but yeah, certainly they'll get a they'll get 823 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of a treat for Christmas. 824 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: Well that's great because I'm following the Bills down here 825 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: in Georgia and I never missed the game. 826 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got family in George in Atlanta as well, 827 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: and yeah they're they're Bills fans too, So yeah, I 828 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: know it's it's possible if you can, if you really 829 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: want it. 830 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Joe. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. 831 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to Mark from West Seneca. 832 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: You've been hanging on for a while. What's up Mark? 833 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 7: Hey, Merry Christmas. Guys. Sure, Steve, your conversation today has 834 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 7: compelled me to call you about this. 835 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 3: Uh. 836 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 7: I think you have been of the opinion that the 837 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 7: Chargers for a long time have been a dumpster fire 838 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 7: and they can never get out of their own way. 839 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 7: I'm curious as to what you think about the owner, 840 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 7: because I think this falls on the owner allowing an 841 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 7: interim group head coach and GM who everybody pretty much 842 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 7: agrees have no shot of being hired full time making 843 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 7: personnel decisions with the roster. I look at that and 844 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 7: thinking to myself, if I'm an owner of an NFL team, 845 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,919 Speaker 7: I want to make sure that the guy I bring 846 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 7: in and the guys I bring in have every opportunity 847 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 7: to evaluate what we have in full and I'm not 848 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 7: allowing any moves. They're not going anywhere. It doesn't matter 849 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 7: if they win any more games, maybe they move one 850 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 7: spot in the draft position or whatever. At best, I 851 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 7: just find it very curious as to why Span the 852 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 7: Spanos family would allow that to happen. And then, secondly, 853 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 7: and I have one other question after this, what Justin 854 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,479 Speaker 7: Herbert must be thinking about that as he's sitting back 855 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 7: and watching these kind of developments happen. And then, real quick, 856 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 7: you alluded to the Ronnie Harmon game. If I'm not mistaken, 857 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 7: After that game, Ronnie made a couple of comments that 858 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 7: basically took the blame off of him for that drop 859 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 7: pass and put it on Jim. I wonder if you 860 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 7: remember it that way, and if you do not, definitely 861 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 7: in a locker room. 862 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: Now I know, I remember Ronnie's being a really good teammate. 863 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: He was a quiet dude, and he didn't come out 864 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: in the media very often and what he said was 865 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: probably misconstrued. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't remember. I 866 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,479 Speaker 1: do not remember Ronnie saying anything about Jim. I don't. 867 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, sure, but I have no I 868 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: don't remember anything like that about Ronnie. He was bummed, 869 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: So just like the rest. 870 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 7: Of us were okay, okay, well my questions and you 871 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 7: guys have a great holiday. 872 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you, awful appreciate it. 873 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: I have long said that that is an organization that 874 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: that struggles because of that. Now they've gotten Now Dean 875 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: Spanos took over from his father, Alex Spanos. John Spanos 876 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: is now the president and operates runs the thing on 877 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: a day to day basis. Who is Dean's son, So 878 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: the grandson is now kind of running the operation. I 879 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: don't know, And you would think that each guy would 880 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: have his own signature to put on what they're doing 881 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: out there, and I'm I'm sure it does seem different 882 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: to those in the building, but the results have been 883 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 1: largely the same. Now you can make a case over 884 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 1: the last eight years or seven years when Andy Reid 885 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: took over in Kansas City, that they've been up against 886 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: it much like the Bills were up against it in 887 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: here in the AFC East with you know, Belichick and 888 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: Brady in New England. I mean, you're up against a 889 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: couple of Juggernauts every year and it's hard to win 890 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: the division. But it has been decades in the making, 891 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: and they have there. There's a bunch of franchises, not 892 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: a bunch, but there's some franchises like that. Cincinnati was 893 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: like that for a long time up until they got 894 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Detroit has been like that up until the 895 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: time Dan Campbell took over. Chicago is still like that, 896 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: and La is like that. Arizona is like that now. 897 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: Arizona caught lightning in a bottle with with Ken wizen 898 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: Hunt and Kurt Warner getting him to a Super Bowl 899 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: with Larry Fitzgerald and that crew. But other than that, 900 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: that was lightning in a bottle and it went away 901 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: as fast as they got it. So there are some 902 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: franchises who you can lay it at the feet of 903 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: and there's some And there's some legitimacy to saying that 904 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: about the Buffalo Bills during the drought years when you 905 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: had an owner who was in his eighties, late eighties, 906 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,439 Speaker 1: early nineties, over the course of the decade and a half, 907 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: they couldn't get in the playoffs, but all you know, 908 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: but there's reasons for that as well that are outside 909 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: of Ralph's control too. So yes, ultimately it always falls 910 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: at the feet of the owner. But that doesn't mean 911 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: he's asleep at the wheel. It means that you know 912 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: it's a bad mix, bad hires, bad breaks, bad draft spots, 913 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: miss on one wrong draft pick or two. There's a 914 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: lot in it, and you know, all thirty two of 915 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: these teams have a guy. Ultimately it stops with him. 916 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: But you know, when you put people in charge, you 917 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: expect some results, and sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn't. 918 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: When it doesn't happen again and again and again and again, 919 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: then you have to start to look elsewhere for the reasons. 920 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: And in some cases you can put it at the 921 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: owner's feet. In other cases you can only put it 922 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,479 Speaker 1: at the owner's feet because he picked the guys who 923 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: blew it. 924 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Staley got hired in twenty twenty one, went 925 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 2: to the postseason once they lost that game, the only 926 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: game they've played in the playoffs with him, when he 927 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 2: was at the Helm as their head coach. I remember 928 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: Brian Daball was up for that head coaching job as well. 929 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 2: I wonder what life would be like if Brian Daball 930 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 2: was the head coach and helping a guy like Justin Herbert, 931 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: who I think the windows still open for Justin Herbert, 932 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: of course. I mean he's going into his fifth season 933 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 2: next year, out for the rest of the season. But man, 934 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 2: to see what Brian Abole did with Josh Allen, I 935 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: would love to see something like that with the younger 936 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: quarterback in Justin Herbert as well. They decided to not 937 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: go that way, decided to hire Brandon Staley, who is 938 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: with the Rams before coming to the Chargers, as their 939 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator for a season. 940 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, was to say this, yeah, the schedule, 941 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: But I didn't talk to Brian Dable about this, obviously, 942 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: I didn't ask him or anybody, and I didn't ask 943 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: Tom tellsco the GM of the Chargers or anything like that. 944 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: But the rumors going around were that Brandon Staley was 945 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: about half as expensive as Brian Daball was as a 946 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: head coach. So they got tagged. So the ownership of 947 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: the Charges got tagged with being cheap, and they had 948 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: two quality candidates, and they got tagged with going on 949 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: the chief been taking the lesser one of the defensive 950 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: guy instead of the offensive guy. Whether it was the 951 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: defense offense thing that tipped the scales or whether it 952 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: was the price tag Uh it looks bad when you 953 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: miss and it's perceived that you took a cheaper option 954 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: or not or whatever. That's that's you know, that's water 955 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: under the bridge now. And uh, but I've said this 956 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: before on the show as well. When when you go 957 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: out to higher head coaches, I think all of us 958 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: would be surprised that it's not just somebody. You know, 959 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: you've got to hold guys off. Everybody wants the job. 960 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: Everybody wants a job. I think they get told no 961 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: thanks more often than fans would think. 962 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an undertaking depending on what team 963 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: you're going to, what what you got on the roster, 964 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 2: what your cap situation looks like, what they've done in 965 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: the past. 966 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: And a lot of it has to do their quarterback. 967 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with the meetings 968 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: with the owners about the owners, are you going to 969 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: give me? I like, and I've said this before, the 970 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,959 Speaker 1: owner the head coaching candidates has this great, everything goes great, 971 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: I need a B, C and D in order to 972 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: take the job. And the owner says a okay, B 973 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: no way, C. We'll talk about it. D no way. Yeah, 974 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: And the guy's got to make a decision and it's like, no, 975 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: I can't. If you're not gonna give me the A, B, C, 976 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: and D, we're not gonna win. So they say no, thanks, 977 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: and they wait for their next opportunity because it will 978 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: come if they're continue to be successful and if they 979 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: have faith in the in the fact that they can 980 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: do it. I think I do. I think candidates, even 981 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: guys we all know, say no, thank you more often 982 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: than we think interesting. 983 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, break time for us. When we return, 984 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: our guy Greg co cell is coming on with us, 985 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup, NFL Films, Senior producer 986 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. We're gonna break down the upcoming game 987 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 2: against the Chargers and the NFL slate this weekend. Stick 988 00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: with us here on Oneville's Live, or presented by Clas 989 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: Help on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 990 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called La Health. 991 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 2: Welcome into One Bill's Live. Mattie Glab alongside of Steve 992 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 2: Tasker fill in for Chris Brown, who's on his way 993 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: to LA for Saturday's game against the Chargers. One hour 994 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: left in our show before we say sign our sally 995 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: for the weekend. Just kidding, I would love to say that, 996 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 2: but you and I have got to do our Bill's 997 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: postgame live show tomorrow night after the game. So if 998 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: you guys want to hang out with us late tomorrow night, 999 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 2: you can find us on Buffalo Bills dot com, on Twitter, 1000 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 2: on Facebook, anywhere where you find your streaming shows. Will 1001 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 2: be on it breaking down. Hopefully another big win for 1002 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: the Bills because they got to keep stacking them. 1003 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, that's well, that's the plan. And we're talking 1004 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: about how this game might go and how it should go, 1005 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: and maybe our next guest can tell us how it 1006 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: will go. 1007 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 2: To help us with that, let's bring in Greg Cosell 1008 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: to the conversation. His appearance on the show is presented 1009 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 2: by Scott Lawnyard, an official commercial site work partner of 1010 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills and Greg, how you doing today? Thanks 1011 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 2: for coming on to talk a little shop, talk a 1012 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 2: little ball with us. 1013 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 5: Hi, Maddy, how are you doing good? 1014 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 2: We're getting ready for a Saturday night game. I kind 1015 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: of feel lucky that we are one of six teams 1016 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: who don't have to play on Christmas Eve or Christmas. 1017 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: That allows us to have a couple of days off 1018 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 2: and also the players because if you're playing on Christmas 1019 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: Eve or Christmas. You're kind of knocking both of those days. 1020 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: Distraction, Greg, Greg, Before we get into this game, Greg, 1021 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: let me ask you about last week's game against Dallas. 1022 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 5: Oh you got to talk about last week's game, Steve. 1023 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 5: I mean, it was so special in so many ways. 1024 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, that's the thing. We the Bills 1025 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: dominated up front. Their offensive line played an extremely efficient game. 1026 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: James Cook got went off. Why do why don't games 1027 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: like cause Dallas just didn't seem built to stop a 1028 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: team like that. How's coming? You don't see games like 1029 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: this more often? 1030 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's funny you say that. And obviously, 1031 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 5: you know this football is a physical game. So obviously 1032 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 5: if you run the ball, well, guys are blocking well 1033 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 5: up front. But I gotta tell you, I watched that 1034 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 5: tape really slowly and carefully, and I was really impressed 1035 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 5: from a tactical perspective with what they did in the 1036 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 5: run game. I mean, like I said, you know, you 1037 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 5: run the ball, you got to block people, and they 1038 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 5: did that, no question. But I just thought that they 1039 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 5: had such a good feel for the fronts of the Cowboys, 1040 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 5: because that's ultimately, you know, I would have loved to 1041 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 5: have been involved in the meeting when they first decided 1042 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 5: early in the week that hey, we believe this is 1043 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 5: how we can win and defeat the Cowboys defense. I 1044 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 5: would have loved to have known what the thought process was, 1045 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 5: because it was tactical to me as much as physical. 1046 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 5: When you decide on a run game, you're not just saying, Okay, 1047 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 5: let's go beat the crap out of him. You're saying, Hey, 1048 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 5: these are the fronts they play, these are the runs 1049 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 5: that work best against these fronts. These are the ways 1050 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 5: we're going to block those fronts. You know, Steve, you 1051 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 5: know all this from when you played. It's not just hey, 1052 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 5: let's go hit him in the mouth. And I just 1053 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 5: thought that they had such a great feel for the 1054 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 5: fronts and how they wanted to block them that it 1055 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 5: was tactical as well as physical. 1056 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 2: And Joe Brady admitted later in the week when we 1057 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 2: took talk to him on Monday after the game, he said, 1058 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't plan to run the ball as 1059 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 2: much as we did, but we were having so much 1060 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 2: success with it that we just kept doing it. And 1061 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: you heard after the game the offensive players, Josh Allen, 1062 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, saying kudos to Joe for sticking to it, 1063 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 2: for keeping on running the ball when he could have 1064 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: gone to what else they had planned, but they decided 1065 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: to go with what was working. How difficult do you 1066 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 2: think that is for an offensive coordinator to have all 1067 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 2: these things that you might want to go to within 1068 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: a game, but you find one thing that's working and 1069 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 2: maybe you put your pride aside a little bit and say, hey, 1070 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 2: this is working for us, We're not gonna leave it. 1071 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 5: Well, I guess, Maddy, theoretically it shouldn't be difficult, but 1072 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 5: I know it can be. But you know, just to 1073 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 5: you know, I think I can paint a pretty visual picture, 1074 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 5: I hope anyway, just to dig into the weeds a 1075 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 5: little bit, because I think it's really important given what 1076 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 5: happened last week. You know, the Cowboys played what we 1077 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 5: call predominantly an overfront, meaning their front was shifted to 1078 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 5: the strength of the offense where the tight end the 1079 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 5: side the tight end was on, and they just really 1080 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 5: attacked that front consistently in the first half, and the 1081 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 5: Cowboys really made no adjustment until the second half, and 1082 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 5: obviously by then the Bills were controlling the game. Clearly, 1083 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 5: but they just had such a good feel for running 1084 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 5: the kinds of runs that would work against that front. 1085 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 5: And I think that's one reason that they They did 1086 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 5: the little motion hop with Cook, which happened eight times 1087 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 5: in the game for fifty five yards. They ran their 1088 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 5: staple run, that tackle trap. We've seen them run that 1089 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 5: all year long. They ran it with Dawkins as the polar, 1090 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 5: they ran it with Brown as the polar, so they just, 1091 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 5: you know, tactically, I thought, just it. It was a masterpiece, 1092 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 5: and stay with it. If it's working, stay with it. 1093 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 5: You know. The other thing, too, is that eats clock. 1094 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 5: And while the cow Boys clearly did not have their 1095 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 5: best offensive game, we know they can score a lot. 1096 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 5: And if you're eating clock and scoring touchdowns, I don't 1097 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 5: think there's any offensive coach that would say that's a 1098 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 5: bad idea. 1099 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: Right, And what do you make of the fact too, 1100 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: that I was I was looking to set I think 1101 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: I got it right. Predominantly, the Cowboys played dime defense 1102 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: against the Bills with six dbs, and they never really 1103 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: went heavy, like to just overreact and like stop the 1104 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: run at all costs. They never really decided to do that, 1105 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: at least personnel wise. 1106 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I believe it or not, Steep. It's actually 1107 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 5: because I noticed the same thing with a lot of 1108 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 5: these websites. They really play nickel. Because what these websites 1109 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 5: do is they count Bell number fourteen as a safety, 1110 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 5: and he's a linebacker. 1111 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 1112 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 5: He's a linebacker, right, I mean the size suggests he's 1113 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 5: a safety and that's what he played in college, but 1114 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 5: he's a linebacker. So they were really playing four to 1115 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 5: two five nickel most of the game. And you know, 1116 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 5: it's interesting you you were talking about Bell because he 1117 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 5: is the weak side a linebacker, the weak side stack backer. 1118 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 5: So when they ran to the to the weak side 1119 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 5: of the over front, he was the linebacker to that side. 1120 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 5: And he's obviously a smaller player and he doesn't hold 1121 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 5: up real well against the run. So that was another 1122 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 5: byproduct of running against the defensive front of the Cowboys 1123 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 5: that it became Bell. You were obviously watching the Cook touchdown. 1124 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 5: Now the pass, which was a great call too, because 1125 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 5: they actually had it was man coverage and they actually 1126 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 5: had two wide receivers to the right and they just 1127 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 5: ran you know what you call two post routes to 1128 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 5: clear out the whole area and then get Cook matched 1129 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 5: up on the linebacker Clark. 1130 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: And you know Clark, Clark is a lineback, he's a 1131 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: bigger linebacker. They didn't hop the back on or maybe 1132 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: they did, but they hopped it the other way and 1133 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: put Cook to the side of Clark and left him 1134 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: on him. And that's that was a spot where they 1135 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: got him again with a matchup where instead of having 1136 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: a safety sized linebacker on Cook, they had the linebacker 1137 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: size linebacker on Cook. 1138 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think that was that hop was intentional because 1139 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 5: of the route concept to that side of the field. 1140 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 5: They cleared out that side with the two post routes 1141 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 5: and they wanted Cook matched on the linebacker. So that 1142 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 5: to me was a called play just outside the red 1143 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 5: zone knowing what coverage they would get because the Cowboys 1144 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,959 Speaker 5: are a high percentage man to man coverage team. 1145 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 2: And after what you saw the Bills did against the 1146 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Cowboys in this run game that they got going. I 1147 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: know defenses are different that you're playing. They're going to 1148 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 2: show different things, show different fronts, But do you think 1149 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 2: there's anything they can glean from this game and use 1150 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: moving forward with the success they were able to find there? 1151 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 5: Well, to me, we all know that that the next 1152 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 5: game is not going to have Josh Allen throwing fifteen times. 1153 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 5: That's not going to happen. We know that, do I mean, 1154 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 5: he's going to drop back forty five times, but he's 1155 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 5: not going to throw fifteen balls. So you to me 1156 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 5: the next step. And again this is just me talking. 1157 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 5: You know, these coaches know way more than I do. 1158 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 5: They're with the players every day. They're doing you know, 1159 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 5: doing just the bills and their opponent, you know, sixteen 1160 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 5: hours a day. I'm not. But what I would love 1161 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 5: to see now is a really strong marrying and synchronicity 1162 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 5: between the run game looks and the play element play 1163 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 5: action element in the pass game, because I think now 1164 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 5: that you've seen how they run the football, whether it's 1165 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 5: with that that staple tackle trap or whether it's zone, 1166 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 5: whatever the run concepts are, if you can really marry 1167 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 5: that look with your pass game, your play action pass 1168 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 5: game that puts defenders in conflict, because there's always defenders 1169 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 5: who have both a run and a pass responsibility on 1170 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 5: every play, and you want to put those guys in conflict. 1171 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 5: So you know, ideally that's the next step, and then 1172 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 5: you get cleaner, easier, reads for Josh Allen and then 1173 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 5: you get more receivers involved, and then your offense continue 1174 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: used to take that next step instead of just relying 1175 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 5: on Hey, Josh Allen, make a great throw. Josh Allen, 1176 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 5: run around. You know, it becomes all rhythmic, and that's 1177 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 5: what you're trying to get accomplished in the in the 1178 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 5: past game. 1179 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: And this game is a different kind of matchup too, 1180 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: because the Chargers give up a ton of pass yardage. Yeah, 1181 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and so it's almost as enticing as running against the 1182 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys as to come out throwing it against this team, 1183 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,919 Speaker 1: you know, So that's got to play into the game plan. 1184 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. And by the way, it's funny you say that, 1185 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 5: because you know, if they came out throwing it in 1186 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 5: this game, a lot of people might automatically say, oh, 1187 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 5: what are they doing? They ran it so well. But 1188 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 5: you know, you play, you play against your opponent, and Steve, 1189 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 5: you're right, they're not a very good pass defense at all, 1190 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 5: and you know this might be a week where they 1191 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 5: do come out throwing the ball. Look, you know how 1192 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 5: they want this game to play out. We all know this. 1193 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,479 Speaker 5: They want to be ahead twenty one three or whatever 1194 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 5: it is. In the middle of the second quarter against 1195 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback, and give Easton Stick credit. I watched 1196 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 5: at full tape last week. You ord to prepare to 1197 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 5: talk to you guys. To be honest, I may not 1198 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 5: have watched Easton Stick if it wasn't for the fact 1199 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 5: that they were playing the Bills this week. But I 1200 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 5: got to give him a ton of credit because that 1201 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,439 Speaker 5: game was out of hand quickly and he stayed in there. 1202 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 5: He's not a highly talented guy in terms of arm talent. 1203 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 5: This touchdown we're seeing now is a bust. But the 1204 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 5: point is is that in the fourth quarter he actually 1205 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 5: made his best throws. He stayed in there, He played 1206 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 5: with poison composure. He's just not very big and he 1207 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 5: doesn't have a big arm. But you know he's going 1208 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 5: to be the quarterback, and you know what the likelihood is, 1209 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 5: he'll be better this week than he was last week. 1210 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 5: Now that's a relative term. He's not going to be 1211 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 5: a top five quarterback in the league this week, but 1212 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 5: he'll be better because he played a game. He has 1213 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 5: another full week of practice, so you know, the guess 1214 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 5: is he'll be better now. The odd thing about watching 1215 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 5: their tape was their offensive line, and particularly the left 1216 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 5: tackle Slater, who's normally a really good player. He had 1217 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 5: a lot of problems and one on one pass protection 1218 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 5: and that really surprised me. 1219 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 2: And looking at their offense and what they have going 1220 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 2: for them, I mean, no, Keenan Allen in this game? 1221 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: What matchups are you looking at for the Bills defense? 1222 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Is there anywhere on the offense for the charters that 1223 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 2: may give the Bills a tough time on defense? Is 1224 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 2: that the matchup between the linebackers, Bills linebackers and Austin Ecklers. 1225 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 2: There somewhere else we should be watching on Saturday. 1226 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 5: So you're talking on which side of the ball, Matt. 1227 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 2: E Now on the Chargers offensive side of the ball? Yeah, 1228 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 2: Chargers offense against the Buffalo Bills defense. Is there anywhere 1229 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: without a Chargers offense that you think could give the 1230 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Bills defense of problems? 1231 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. The one thing you cannot allow to happen in 1232 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 5: this game is vertical throws over the top. That's the 1233 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 5: way they can stay in the game. And they have 1234 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 5: speeded wide receiver the rookie Johnston, who's incredibly raw and 1235 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 5: unrefined and not a very good receiver at this point. 1236 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 5: He can run, and he's a strider. Gueydon can run, 1237 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 5: palmerk can run. So the last thing you want to 1238 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 5: have happen in a game like this is all of 1239 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 5: a sudden, you know, they hit a sixty yard touchdown 1240 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 5: and now you're in the middle of the second quarter 1241 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 5: and you're it's a ten to seven game, because then 1242 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you know what people have to remember. 1243 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 5: And Steve can speak to this way better than I 1244 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 5: you know, he played and he knows. It's an NFL team. Okay, 1245 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 5: it's easy to say they stink. It's easy to say 1246 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 5: Easton Stick is a backup quarterback who's probably never going 1247 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 5: to be a full time starter. They just change coaches. 1248 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 5: I mean all that's easy to say. But it's still 1249 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 5: an NFL team with NFL players, and we've seen a 1250 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 5: lot worse. You can't go into this game with the 1251 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 5: assumption that hey, by halftime, we're ahead thirty one to three, 1252 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,479 Speaker 5: and we can, you know, we can, you know, walk 1253 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 5: through the second half. Youve got to come out and 1254 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 5: you want to bury them early, and you just can't 1255 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 5: give up big play touchdowns because those receivers can run 1256 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 5: and they can get on top of you. 1257 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: And that's really the balance you have to strike. We 1258 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: talked about this early in the week on the on 1259 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: the show Greg because certainly the Bills want to go 1260 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: out there. Strikes get them down, make them think it's 1261 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: going to be another sixty three to twenty one game, 1262 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: get them to fold up their tent early. But to 1263 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: do that, you got to put the ball at risk. 1264 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: And the one and the one way you can keep 1265 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,919 Speaker 1: a team in the game is to turn it over. 1266 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: So if you come out and you do throw it 1267 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time in the first half because 1268 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: they do have a bad or statistically bad pass defense, 1269 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna put the ball at risk and run the 1270 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: risk of you know, giving it to them. So that 1271 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: balance has to be struck. Although I'll sit here and 1272 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: be the first to say I always tell coaches or 1273 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: complaining in this seat about coaches who don't trust their players. 1274 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: So you got, Josh Allen. My thought is to do that, 1275 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: go out there, put it in the hands of your 1276 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: best players and turn them loose and see if that 1277 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: other team can keep up. 1278 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 5: And my senses, guys, I think they're going to do that, 1279 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 5: and you know we could be wrong. Steve, you know, 1280 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 5: you never know. R I mean, we're just two guys 1281 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 5: talking ball and Maddie three to three of us talking 1282 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 5: ball here. We don't know. We're not in the meetings, 1283 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 5: we're not game planning. But I personally think that they're 1284 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 5: going to be aggressive in this game. Now we know 1285 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 5: when they're aggressive. Joshkin, you know at times he might 1286 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 5: throw into the other team. That's okay. I don't think 1287 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 5: that affects him. I think he just plays. I think 1288 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 5: that's the way he is. That's just innate to him. 1289 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 5: He just plays. He's such a confident player that I 1290 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 5: don't think he after an interception, he sulks on the sideline, 1291 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 5: you know. So I think you just have to play 1292 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 5: the way you think is best against this opponent. And 1293 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 5: you're right, they are really poor in pass defense, and 1294 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 5: you'd like to be able to throw the ball and 1295 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 5: hit some bigger plays. And you know, all of a sudden, 1296 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 5: like I said, be up twenty one to three in 1297 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 5: the second quarter, and then not that it's a walk 1298 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 5: home after that, but you know, the whole game becomes different. 1299 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Right And one thing they do have going for themselves, 1300 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 2: the Chargers, that is on defense. They've got Khalil Mack, 1301 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 2: who has fifteen sacks. They rank top ten in amount 1302 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: of sacks they have, which is forty four, good for 1303 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 2: six in the NFL. So they have been successful at 1304 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 2: getting to the quarterback at times. What does the offensive 1305 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 2: line need to do to make sure that Khalil Mack 1306 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 2: doesn't spoil their plans? They had Micah Parsons last week, 1307 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 2: and Micah Parsons got hurt in the beginning of the game. 1308 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 2: Still played through everything, but was off the field for 1309 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 2: a little bit there. But it didn't seem like Micah 1310 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 2: Parsons took away from what the Bills had going on offense. 1311 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,719 Speaker 2: So how can they do that for two straight weeks 1312 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 2: going against another good pass rusher than Khalil Mack. 1313 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Maddie last week, there weren't really pass rushers 1314 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 5: because the way the game played out, right, So so 1315 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 5: you know, Parsons, the entire D line of the Cowboys, 1316 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 5: which is overall better than the entire D line of 1317 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 5: the Chargers, was not a factor simply because the game 1318 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 5: didn't play out that way. I mean, they didn't really 1319 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 5: have to throw. There weren't a lot of third and 1320 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 5: longs or long yarded situations. In which they had to 1321 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 5: throw the football. So you know, Ma's a great pass 1322 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 5: rusher and obviously he can win against anybody. So now 1323 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 5: it comes down to how you choose to play. Ideally, 1324 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 5: you're not going to get into too many third and longs. 1325 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 5: We know, though, Josh can move, and he will move, 1326 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 5: so you would think that Mac would not be a 1327 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 5: huge factor, but he's such a great player that he 1328 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 5: certainly can be and he certainly can win one on 1329 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 5: one against anybody, you know, the last that's another thing 1330 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 5: Steve talked about turnovers, Maddie. But you also don't want 1331 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 5: negative plays. I mean, you're better off in this game. 1332 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 5: You know. I don't want to say punting the ball, 1333 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 5: but you don't want to get stuck on you know, 1334 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 5: on third and eighteen or second in eighteen because of 1335 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 5: a sack. So you know you have to be careful 1336 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 5: about that. You know, this is it's an odd game, 1337 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 5: as Steve suggested, where you really I'm sure the staff 1338 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 5: in studying the Chargers defense feels like we can throw 1339 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 5: the ball, but you also have to be careful that 1340 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you don't have you know, three 1341 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 5: three and outs and and the game settles into one 1342 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 5: of those kind of weird games that you don't want 1343 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,480 Speaker 5: to really be playing. 1344 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Well the Bills. The Bills tend to lose games like that, right, 1345 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean the way the Bills get They lose by 1346 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a single score to a team that got a lucky 1347 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 1: break on a turnover, hit a fifty nine yard field goal, 1348 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,679 Speaker 1: or on a fourth and eighteen on a contested ball 1349 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 1: the dB actually helps the guy catch them. That kind 1350 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: of play is what we're talking about, where you lose 1351 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: by you go minus one or minus two on the 1352 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: turnover chart and give them a couple of extra possessions 1353 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: with a short field, and all of a sudden, you're 1354 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: in a dog fight and you end up one play 1355 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: missing it. 1356 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and how many games this year? Not last week 1357 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 5: where I believe they scored on their first possession, but 1358 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 5: how many games, guys this year have all of a sudden, 1359 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 5: we're midway through the second quarter and the Bills offense 1360 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 5: hasn't really gotten started yet. You know, oh, you can't. 1361 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 5: You don't want to be in one of those games, right. 1362 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: It happened in a ton It happened in the first 1363 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 1: Jet game opening Day. It happened in the Jaguars game 1364 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: in London. It happened against the Giants, it happened against 1365 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, the Patriots in New England. I mean, yeah, 1366 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: it happens a lot. That's why a guy got That's 1367 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 1: why I got fired, Greg, And that's. 1368 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 5: What you don't want to have happened in this game. 1369 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 5: But as you said, Steve, and you're one hundred percent right, 1370 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 5: there is a balance there and a little bit of risk, 1371 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 5: you know. But you know, Josh Allen is Josh Allen. 1372 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 5: He's a great quarterback. You got to trust him. I mean, 1373 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 5: if you feel the best way to attack this defense 1374 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 5: is throwing the ball, then that's what you got to do. 1375 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Well. 1376 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Last question for me, Greg, I mean, what do you 1377 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 2: think of this team who is back to having a 1378 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 2: win streak going for themselves. They haven't had one since 1379 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 2: weeks two through four, the beginning of the season. Really, 1380 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 2: they are starting to find out their identity. I believe 1381 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 2: they've scored over thirty points in three out of the 1382 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 2: last four games. You know, Joe Brady seems like he's 1383 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 2: doing a great job as the interim OC. You got 1384 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 2: a few games left here, their playoff chances are looking better. 1385 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 2: What do you think of this group as they're heading 1386 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 2: into the final stretch of the regular season and really 1387 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 2: need to push through to be able to make it 1388 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,519 Speaker 2: to the dance. 1389 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 5: Well, I think that the real positive thing, Maddie is 1390 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 5: they're playing complimentary football right now, because it's not all 1391 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 5: Josh Allen right now. The defense is playing really well 1392 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 5: there I think, are they second in the league in 1393 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 5: sacks or somewhere in that range, fourth or they're in. 1394 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: The top five, top five, Yeah, for sure. 1395 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, their d line is playing really well. They're getting 1396 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 5: quality play on the back end, which is really important 1397 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 5: given that you know there'd be players there that many 1398 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 5: would not consider great players. But they're getting quality play. 1399 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,480 Speaker 5: So they're winning different ways, and I've always felt that's important. 1400 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 5: You know, we know Josh Allen's a great player. We 1401 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 5: know that no one probably you know, wants to play 1402 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 5: Josh Allen every week because of the plays he can make, 1403 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 5: and no one maybe wants to play the Bills right now. 1404 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 5: That's what you hear a lot of people say, boy, 1405 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to play the Bills, But right now 1406 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 5: they're not in the playoffs, so you know, they've got 1407 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 5: to win out and they have to look if they 1408 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 5: went out and the Dolphins lose one of the other 1409 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 5: two games, they win the division. But that's looking ahead. 1410 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 5: You know, we talked about this game tomorrow night. This 1411 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 5: can't be a game that they look past. They're not 1412 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 5: in that situation. But they've played much better, complimentary football 1413 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 5: where it hasn't had to be Josh Allen Josh Allen 1414 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 5: all the time, and as great as he is and 1415 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 5: can be any given week, you can't play like that 1416 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 5: every single week. 1417 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: Greg, good stuff, it's great talking to you for the weekend. 1418 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: Have a great holiday weekend. 1419 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 5: You two guys really appreciate it. Thanks so much. 1420 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 1421 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 4: Greg. 1422 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 2: That was Greg co Cell of NFL Films, also the 1423 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup, The Mastermind that we 1424 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 2: know and love. We're going to take a break, but 1425 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 2: when we return, we'll get back to the phone lines 1426 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,719 Speaker 2: and continue to look ahead to Saturday's game against the Charters. 1427 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live is presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1428 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 2: The Collision course is brought to you by Gabe Collision 1429 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 2: Game's Collision, the official auto collision repair center of the 1430 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Get back in the game and our matchup 1431 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 2: to watch here is Bill's offensive tackle, Dion Dawkins going 1432 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:15,640 Speaker 2: up against Chargers pass rusher Khalil Mack. What do you 1433 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 2: think about that matchup? You think Dion is up to 1434 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 2: the task. I mean, he's been playing so well this season. 1435 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 2: I spoke to him on the phone earlier today and 1436 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 2: he said, you know, my goal this year was was 1437 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 2: to reach all Pro status. He's in his seventh season 1438 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 2: and still improving as a left tackle. 1439 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: Certainly he's up to it. He's playing his best football now. 1440 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack is a special athlete and he's a really 1441 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 1: good pass rusher. But Dion has the you know, the 1442 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: the added benefit that his quarterback is innately hard to 1443 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: sack because of who and what he is as an athlete. 1444 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: So Dion playing the way he's playing certainly has to 1445 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: give some confidence. I'll say this. If Dion plays his 1446 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: best and holds Khalil Mack to no pressures, no sacks, 1447 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, yeah, it's it's an enormous 1448 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: an enormous boost for this offense because the defensively he 1449 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: is their top player. Yeah fifteen, and yeah, he's playing great. 1450 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 1: He's a great player, but they need. The Chargers need 1451 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack to show up. If he is stymied by 1452 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: a left tackle like Dion Dawkins, that seriously cripples their 1453 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: ability to put pressure on Josh and to do anything 1454 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 1: against the Bills in a passing game. So yeah, if 1455 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: it's a I think it's a crucial matchup more for 1456 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers than it is even for. 1457 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 2: The Buffalo, right, And who knows what's gonna happen. I mean, 1458 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 2: like Greg co Sell said, you didn't see much of 1459 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons uh against the Cowboys last week because the 1460 01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 2: Bill's got the big lead. And when you have a 1461 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 2: bit lead, and when you're playing with the lead, your 1462 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 2: pass rushers on the other side of the ball can't 1463 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 2: really get after it. They can't pin their ears back 1464 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 2: as much and just go because they're playing with a 1465 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 2: big deficit. And if the Bills get up big on 1466 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,919 Speaker 2: the Chargers, it could be the same story. 1467 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: Right, They only dropped back to throw the ball like 1468 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: twenty times. They had like fifteen passes actually attempted. Josh 1469 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: had eight rushing attempts, and you think three or four 1470 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 1: of those were quarterback sneaks and called runs. So the 1471 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: other three or four were actually maybe five at most 1472 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 1: were actual scrambles where they dropped back and you didn't 1473 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: have an option. He just took off and ran. Other 1474 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,600 Speaker 1: than that, Micah Parsons had no chance to rush the 1475 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: passer and they used his They used his abilities against 1476 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 1: him in the fact that they just left him unblocked 1477 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 1: and left him making a decision as to whether to 1478 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: tackle Josh with the ball in his hands or chase 1479 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the running back. Josh put him in conflict and he 1480 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: couldn't attack. He had to wait. And that tactically was 1481 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,799 Speaker 1: something the coaching staff did that really helped the offensive 1482 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: line out and took and plus the fact that they 1483 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: could run the ball, but took their best defensive player, 1484 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, and took him out of the game and 1485 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't allow him to make a big play against him 1486 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: because in one respect he was the focal point of 1487 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: the of the offensive play and the other parts he 1488 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 1: didn't have that many chances to rush the passer. So 1489 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 1: in the running game he was like unblocked but couldn't 1490 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 1: attack right and in the passing. 1491 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 2: Game didn't have enough chances. 1492 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had like fifteen shot. 1493 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Josh was seven to fifteen in that game, and 1494 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 2: you would assume that Josh Allen's going to throw the 1495 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 2: ball more against the Charters because, like we've talked about 1496 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 2: all show, if you look at their defense, they're one 1497 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 2: of the worst against the pass. So you would guess 1498 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 2: that Josh will be back to throw quite a bit 1499 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 2: more than he did against the Cowboys when the Bills 1500 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 2: went to the run game, because that was there, that 1501 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 2: was their week link was their run defense. Not the 1502 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 2: case for the Chargers. Their run defense is better than 1503 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 2: their past defense. Let's get into tailgate Friday. Tailgate Friday 1504 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 2: is presented by Himark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, the official 1505 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 2: healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. And I'm interested to 1506 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,640 Speaker 2: read what people have going on for tailgate Friday, what 1507 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 2: they're gonna have on their spread out there for Saturday 1508 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 2: against the Charters. Because it's the holiday season, people might 1509 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 2: be celebrated and having parties during the game, So maybe 1510 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 2: we got some swanky dishes going on. 1511 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody tailgate at eight o'clock at night. You know, 1512 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: everybody's inside kind of got the whole kitchen things right, 1513 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be more people preparing food than there 1514 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 1: usually is even at. 1515 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 2: The tailgates, and Madeline says, I love the name. That's 1516 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,520 Speaker 2: my name as well, my full name. Tailgate Friday, Swedish 1517 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 2: meat balls, chips and dip, Christmas cookies, hermit bars, almon horns, 1518 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,719 Speaker 2: chickpea blondies, and fudgy chocolate coconut. Oh my gosh, Should 1519 01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 2: I figure. 1520 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 4: Out what's a hermit what's a hermit bar? 1521 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:02,559 Speaker 2: Don't? 1522 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: I don't know what's an almond horn. 1523 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 2: I think the cookies that are in a horn, we're 1524 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 2: like in a I don't know. We're bad at the 1525 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 2: chickpea blondies, the blondie bars. 1526 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 1: We need people who's English is their first line? 1527 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Do you bake? I don't bake. 1528 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: I do not. Fudgy chocolate coconut. Okay, that's fine, I 1529 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: get that. I don't know what a chickpea blondie is, 1530 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,080 Speaker 1: or an almond horn or a hermit bar. 1531 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 2: Gonna look up a hermit bar, right, yeah, that's hermit bar. 1532 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 2: Cookie I didn't all right, hermit bar, cookies, brown sugar, cinnamon, eggs, 1533 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,720 Speaker 2: baking soda, baking powder, looks like it looks like a 1534 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,679 Speaker 2: cookie bar. It looks like a chocolate chip cookie bar. 1535 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we should. 1536 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,799 Speaker 2: Play a game of give tasks and eye random names 1537 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 2: of desserts. 1538 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: Look up an almond horn, an almond horn, almond horn, Yeah, 1539 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: that's got a I mean, come on. 1540 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Almond horn cookies. Yeah, they're like the They're like the 1541 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 2: crescent cookies that are shaped like this. I'm doing a 1542 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 2: terrible job. 1543 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1544 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 2: They have powdered sugar and I'm sometimes dipped in chocolate. 1545 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 2: They're kind of like a half circle. You have had 1546 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 2: to have these before. They were actually in the area 1547 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 2: where we work yesterday they had them in a cookie jar. 1548 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, I'm in my sixties, right, I'm an old guy. 1549 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pictures here that I have never 1550 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 1: seen an almond horn before in my life. I've never 1551 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: laid eyes on a cookie like that. They're like little 1552 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: U shapes I have never see. I am totally absolved 1553 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: of blame, not knowing what an all. I've never seen 1554 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: one of those. 1555 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,679 Speaker 2: They were literally that's like yesterday when you and Brownie 1556 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 2: walked through the area that I work in, they were 1557 01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 2: on the table. 1558 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 1: I have never been there. Half a dome looks like 1559 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: half a donut. All be darned well, there you go. 1560 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: There's a thing that I didn't know. What's a chickpea blondie. 1561 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 2: Chickpea blondie. 1562 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can type faster like a blondie bar. Chickpea blonde. 1563 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 2: Have you ever had blondie bars? Okay, it looks like 1564 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 2: a chocolate chip bar again, and blondies maybe because they're 1565 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 2: not brownies, but they're cut like brownies. I don't know 1566 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 2: you and I are family. 1567 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's a chocolate chip cookie and a sheet. 1568 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 2: Cake and it's made with maybe chickpea flour. 1569 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe maybe it's made maybe there is. It 1570 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 1: looks like it. It looks like a chocolate chip cookie 1571 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:23,679 Speaker 1: and a sheet cake. 1572 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,599 Speaker 2: One can of chickpeas, that's what's in it? Or white beans? 1573 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Why do they put Why would they put chickpeas? Maybe 1574 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,879 Speaker 1: because it's hard chip cookies? 1575 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 4: All right, okay, sounds good to be well. 1576 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: That took us down, That took us into the weedze, 1577 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 1: the very first Tailgate Friday, hermit bars, almond horns, chickpea blondies. 1578 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I still hadn't seen what a hermit bar looks like. 1579 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up. 1580 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 2: It looks similar to a chickpea blondie all right from faith, 1581 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 2: She says, my favorite part of Friday's show Pizza dip 1582 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 2: for the game with tostitos and toasted bag guts. For 1583 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 2: dinner and the pregame, we're doing smash burgers and mac 1584 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 2: and cheese go bills. Baby, I love smash burgers. Give 1585 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 2: me a smash burger every day of the week. Mac 1586 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 2: and cheese sounds incredible. Pizza dip. I've never had pizza dip, 1587 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 2: but I want pizza dip in my life now. 1588 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Yeah, yeah, smash burger, I know what that is. Yes, absolutely, 1589 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:30,719 Speaker 1: cheeseburgers is right, especially of his beef. So yeah, awesome stuff. 1590 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,480 Speaker 1: That's good. I yeah. 1591 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 2: Elizabeth says. We are having turkey tortilla soup and buffalo 1592 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 2: turkey hand pies with whiskey sours. Do you know what 1593 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 2: a handpie is? 1594 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 1: Is like a little tiny pot pie. 1595 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 2: I just guess I can fit in your hand. 1596 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: All right, I know what a whiskey sour is. I'll 1597 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: say that turkey hand pies. 1598 01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,600 Speaker 2: It looks like a little scone, kind of like a 1599 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 2: triangle shape with some goods in it. 1600 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like little calzone. Like tiny col zones. Yeah, 1601 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 1: or a little uh or a little turnover turkey turnover. Yeah, Okay, 1602 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: that's cool. 1603 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,640 Speaker 2: And then Christopher says, back in home in Rochester for 1604 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 2: the holidays, sticking to the basic basics Saturday night with 1605 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: nostalgic garbage plate, half white hot, half cheeseburger and mac 1606 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 2: and home fries, throwing aside of wings and a big 1607 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,639 Speaker 2: swig of blue white every time the bills enter your 1608 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 2: occurrence hopefully score Hopefully that's a lot. Are you a 1609 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 2: fan of garbage plates? 1610 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it when they're professionally done. 1611 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 2: Professionally done late at night after a couple of pops. 1612 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 1: No going into the restaurant. I've tried other people like homemade, 1613 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's it's not the same. 1614 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 2: I've never had a garbage plate. Yeah, I've been here 1615 01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 2: for five years. 1616 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:56,680 Speaker 1: It's good. 1617 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Haven't you haven't done it yet? 1618 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,639 Speaker 1: You gotta do it well, worth your time going. They're hungry. 1619 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 5: Good. 1620 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 1621 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 2: It just seems like a lot. 1622 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot. But yeah, I'm I prefer them professionally done. 1623 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: When you get it that done, then it's then it's 1624 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 1: good to go. You're taking your chances when it's all right, 1625 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 1626 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 2: Well, what a segment that we learned quite a few things, 1627 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 2: and hopefully our listeners and viewers as well. You guys, 1628 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 2: you guys came along for the ride. 1629 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,800 Speaker 1: They learned goobers is what they learned. What you and. 1630 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 2: I together, What things are? 1631 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: That's what our listeners learned. Culinary delights. Yeah, okay, what 1632 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? 1633 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 2: All right? Well, let's take one phone call quick before 1634 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 2: we had to break. Butch from East Buffalo, You've been 1635 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 2: hanging on the line. But how you doing good? 1636 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,560 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. You're the queen of w g 1637 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,759 Speaker 6: R Western York Radio and you'll always do our standing job. 1638 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 6: And I'm wanting a band, So keep on doing what 1639 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 6: you're doing. 1640 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate you the more you more than welcome. 1641 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 6: You are very more than we love. Keep doing what 1642 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 6: you're doing. Hey, Steve, you know I had a question 1643 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,439 Speaker 6: that was what a comment? Really? 1644 01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 2: What I call? 1645 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 6: But you know you were hitting on something a while 1646 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 6: ago and by me hav an intel of it. I 1647 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 6: can't let the people, the listeners really sleep on the 1648 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 6: ninety Buffalo bills, your team and how special they really was. 1649 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 6: The second you were speaking about about the division in 1650 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,120 Speaker 6: the locker room. Personally, me personally, I know about it. 1651 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 6: The reason why I know about it is my uncle 1652 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 6: Lee had an RV had barbecue out there. We had 1653 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 6: a bar on the east side of Buffalo called Lee's Lounge, 1654 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 6: Biscuit Dinner, Thurman all those guys to hang That's where 1655 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 6: the players could come on the east side and hang 1656 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 6: out and they used to talk about certain things. Uncle. 1657 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 6: They used to go fishing, hunting, and all that other 1658 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 6: good stuff. 1659 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 5: That was very. 1660 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 6: Important turning point with Steve. And you know this. You 1661 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 6: said it in your statement about culture and how the 1662 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 6: division was and how Jim had to get Ghols. She 1663 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 6: had to go to his house and that big basement 1664 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 6: he dad with that big long bar thingy where the 1665 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 6: whole team could sit in there basically and had to 1666 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 6: sit down. And that was very very powerful. And I 1667 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 6: remember after that sit down broke, It broke all the 1668 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,640 Speaker 6: aroma that was going wrong with the football team and 1669 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 6: really like cohesive brought it together as one unit. Now, 1670 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 6: the reason why I said that is going into the 1671 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 6: culture of it. It was really deep. There was basically 1672 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 6: you already know Steve, how you guys were in the 1673 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 6: locker room bickering. They called it bicker but it was 1674 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 6: worse than that. People really didn't know them come to 1675 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,640 Speaker 6: fifty cups sometimes. But the thing about it was, is 1676 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 6: this a lot of these young people out here now 1677 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 6: who don't really know Steve, because you're still young, I'm 1678 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 6: still young, but they don't really know the team. And 1679 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 6: he looked at those four banners. When they go out 1680 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,839 Speaker 6: to the fieldhouse and they see the Super Bowl banners 1681 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 6: up there, but they really don't know that it could 1682 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,960 Speaker 6: have been six in a row when, like you said, Steve, 1683 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 6: eighty seven when Ronnie the ball went up his hands, 1684 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 6: and then in eighty eight when Matt when when when 1685 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 6: when uh we played against Cincinnati and Brush was really sick, 1686 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,000 Speaker 6: but he played anyway, and and and and and the 1687 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,960 Speaker 6: tackle of a guy who's name from Cincinnati Vicks all 1688 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 6: Pro kind of man handled Bush a little bit. Icky 1689 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 6: did his little thing that game. But those are two 1690 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 6: times when we could have went to Zuberna went four 1691 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,559 Speaker 6: straight after that. But like you said, Steve, the culture 1692 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 6: by but Jim and Bruce get that, them two being 1693 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,519 Speaker 6: the leaders basically getting together and coming together and say, okay, 1694 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 6: let's let's hammer it this now so the whole team, 1695 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 6: who who's looking up to us can fall in line 1696 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 6: like a Luterblay, like you go into a chiro tract. 1697 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 6: Everything lines up. That's very, very powerful. And I want 1698 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 6: everyone out there who's listening with Steve the Naddy guys 1699 01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 6: were talking about when they talk about the Buffalo Bills 1700 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety, I want you guys out there to 1701 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 6: know that they were really special. Don't look because they lost, 1702 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 6: for they could have went six straight and that was history. 1703 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,719 Speaker 1: Thanks, but thank but that we got. We're up against 1704 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 1: the break. But I appreciate you chiming in and saying 1705 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,760 Speaker 1: that about the team. You're right and it was a 1706 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,599 Speaker 1: special group, and I appreciate your calling up, but we're 1707 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: up against it here. We got to go. But appreciate 1708 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: you calling call back again if if you have something 1709 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 1: more to add to that. But that was that was nice. 1710 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:30,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 1711 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate you, Butch, but we've got to go 1712 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 2: take a break and we'll be back here on one 1713 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 2: bolls I presented by Clyda Health on Buffalo Bills Radio Vision. 1714 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,599 Speaker 2: The Victories presented by at well I Care, the Official 1715 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,880 Speaker 2: Eye care provider of the Buffalo Bill see the seven 1716 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 2: to one six more clearly. 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Goodbye, guys, 1726 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 2: we'll see you later. Have a happy holidays. We are 1727 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,000 Speaker 2: back on Tuesday afternoon.