WEBVTT - Fatherhood Redefined w/ The Dumb Dads 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.120 Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:10.200 partnership with iHeartRadio. Your kids, did they prefer your wives 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.639 over you or you over your wives? Or have you 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.760 just seen the phases go in and out? 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.439 We're deep in a phase in my house right now. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.599 My daughter prefers me and my son prefers your wife. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.840 It's funny because they both go extremes. They're both very 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.240 sweet to both of us. But like my son, him 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.800 and I will have a fun moment and I'll say 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.520 I love you, buddy, and he goes, I love mom 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:42.760 with all my heart, more than anything in the world. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:50.560 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Katie's Crib. Adam is very 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.480 excited about today's episode because we've got a couple guests 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.400 on today that Adam is a huge fan of and yes, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.000 he's had playdates with them in the park. They all 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.520 have man crushes on each other and it's adorable. I 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.319 first met these incredible gentlemen actually doing moms splaining with 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.199 Kristen Bell, who was a guest on Katie's Crib season one. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.640 I am talking about Kevin and Evan, who are best 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.080 known as the Dumb Dads, and if you're on TikTok 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.280 or you're a parent, I'm sure they pop up on 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:26.160 your for you page all the time. The two of 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.640 them are stay at home dad comedians behind the popular 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:34.080 Dumb Dad pod TikTok account. They're also the hosts of 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.559 the Dumb Dad Podcast, a show that's all about bringing 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.200 humor to the perils of parenting. Evan and Kevin have 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.800 been featured on Mom's Plaining, As I said with Kvel, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.399 They've been on Ellen Today and Good Morning America for 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.360 their social media sketch comedy. They also make content for Bubble, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:54.960 a channel on Ellen Tube. Kevin and Evan, what an 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.040 honor to spend some time with you today. Welcome to 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.080 Katie's crib. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.080 A. Hi. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.720 I'm so pumped about this, saying Adam is such like 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:17.320 a fan. We just had him on I know, how 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:17.640 do you do? 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.000 Here's the thing. He had no energy for you guys. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.480 That's Adam have a lot of energy. Actually, we both 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.400 don't have that much energy left for each other, so 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.520 I'm curious how it's going in your households. We've met 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:38.320 at a park, yes, before, my my son, isn't you? Yes? 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.720 But no, really, what I meant was, my husband is 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.399 so into you guys of the channel. He's a dumb 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.480 dad too, but not. I feel like you guys are way. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.280 Dumber, way dummer like way so much. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.919 We've crossed paths so many times. We were both guests 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.079 on Kristen Bell's Mom's blaming. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.280 Yes, yes, that's right. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.840 You guys are paving the way when it comes to 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:07.240 the dad space. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.040 It's funny you brought up Kristen because she said that 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.880 she was the first one to say that to us. Yeah, once, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.400 and we were I was like, oh, maybe we should stop. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.919 Yeah, I should go back to bartending. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.360 And Adam feels this way too, And I know my 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.120 brother is like my best friend too, and he's a 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.760 very involved dad. And I think, I think this is 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.720 going in a great trend, in a great way that 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.480 dads are way more involved and there are dads who 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:40.000 are the primary caretaker. Tell me first, how And I'm 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.640 sorry you have answered this question one million times, but 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.120 not for the Katie's crab body, and so here we 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.920 have it right, that's right. How did dumb dads come 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.680 to be? How did you meet? How did the idea happen? 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.840 Kevin and I met doing sketch comedy and you're both 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.640 to and so yeah, so we're doing sketch comedy like 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.800 live shows. And then fast forward we had kids, and 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.880 then in preparation for kids, like a lot of the 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.080 wives do, they were like listening to podcasts and everything, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 and they were like, there's like no dad podcasts out there, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.640 and we'd always kind of looked for something else to 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.120 do together. We weren't really sure what that was going 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:14.400 to be. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.200 But the dad podcast, I will say the ones that 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.760 existed were so typical dad podcasts where it was just like, oh, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:20.719 another dad podcast. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.960 The last one was three years ago. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.760 Yeah, like they have like we have a dad podcast 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.400 now we have three episodes, right, so we thought, okay, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.960 So like right before Kevin and his wife Annie were 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.240 having their second child, we thought that'd be a great 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.120 time to start, like at the beginning of having a baby, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.599 and they're like talking about the. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.000 Experience and pairing too, which was really fun to be like, 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.880 I have one, she's almost four or three at that time, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:47.760 and then it was like. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.120 We're about to have a second one. You just get 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:50.920 to compare, like, uh, I didn't. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.800 Go this way this time, right, So we just decided Okay, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.239 the biggest thing is going to be consistency. We can't 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.520 put a dad podcast out there if we're not gonna 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:01.800 it's only gonna be once a while. We're gonna have 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.360 just once a week. So we just thought we can 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.240 commit to once week. Let's just sit down and record 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.679 a conversation. That's where we'll start, and then we're both 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.120 actors performers. And so the pandemic hit, we were still 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.960 doing our podcast. We were doing it remotely, which was insane. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.159 We were struggling to figure that out for a while. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.520 And then when the pandemic hit and like the whole 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.800 industry shut down and there was no auditions or anything, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.800 we were like, now what do we do? We don't 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.720 have anything to do. So we started posting like sketches 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:33.560 online about being dads, and Kevin posted one about being 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.679 a stay home dad and it did well, and we thought, okay, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:36.400 that's cool. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.760 That's an understatement. It did so well. You guys can 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.120 go look at all their socials and their tiktoks and 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.799 all their numbers and all their followers and all this stuff. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.800 But it's such an inspiration to people. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.320 So yeah, so thank you very much. We were posting 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.120 for like two and a half months or so something 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.480 like that, it was like nothing really grabbed, and then 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.880 a stay home dad video did pretty well. I was like, Okay, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.800 maybe this is like the lens we need to put 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.719 every this is the filter we need to put everything through. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.760 So then I don't know, and then I guess here 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.279 we are. We posted a couple of things that went 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.440 pretty viral, and. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.560 Chris and Bell, like k Bell just blew it up. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.800 And that was awesome, and we thought, oh cool, that's crazy. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.520 She put that in front of so many people. And 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.880 then next thing, you know, her people reached out to 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.320 us and asked if we wanted to be on Mom's 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.520 planing and then we were like, what is happening? 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:23.960 Now we get to talk to you. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.520 Yeah, but really, you're paving the way and I know 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.240 that she said that, and I'm saying it again, you 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.560 guys being on the forefront of this, like why do 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.360 you think the response has been what it. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.560 Is in our emails or dms where somebody who's like 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.080 in the Midwest or something like that, and it's a 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.200 dad who's a stay at home dad, and we've got 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.560 some incredibly sweet and heartfelt messages of just being like 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.520 I felt really alone doing this. What I'm doing isn't 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.320 normal quote where I am. So you need to just 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.200 thank you guys for what you're doing. And that's that's 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.919 been the stuff that's like WHOA made us? Like pause 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.520 for a seconds. We're just there's the dumb dads. We're predious. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.160 Where do make a joke. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.320 It's affecting change. I mean we're over here the mom's 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.480 you know, working moms. I'm doing so many episode topics 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.920 about how to juggle it all and how to not 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.120 feel guilty. And at the same time, I'm curious about 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.600 your experience being stay at home dads. Did it feel 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.280 weird from the beginning or were you always like, nope, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.640 I'm taking up space. I'm owning this identity and this 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.440 is me now. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.040 First, I guess I was just say also, we became 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.880 state home dance, Like as soon as we started having kids, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.840 we just decided this works great for schedules, and so 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.320 we'll just be the state home dads. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:43.800 It sounded fun to us. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.920 I think it was like, I really want to tackle 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.600 this and do this, but we definitely like you were 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.880 taking your daughter to dance for a while, You're definitely 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.360 like the only guy in the room. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.400 Yeah, think my wife said. My wife said, and I 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.920 think this is great. She's a great mom and she 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.080 does so much for the family, but she's also like, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.760 I couldn't do stay at home mom. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.880 I couldn't do it. And it just it worked out. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.280 At that time, I was bartending nights like really late, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.000 like nine to three, and she'd get home from work 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.679 at seven, So we were kind of like, this actually works. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.720 I only worked like three shifts at that. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.800 Time when we started having kids, so it was just like, 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.400 so three days a week, the mornings are real tough, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.360 but other than that, like, other than that, it's fine. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:24.040 And we did that. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.840 But yeah, I still take my kids to all of 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.240 the doctor's appointments, the dentist dance class. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.800 What's the weirdest thing you've gotten? Like, what rude or 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.640 lovely thing have someone said, whether it be a doctor 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.320 or professional or another mom in the class, like what 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.880 are you doing here? Whatever it is, has that kind 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.000 of situation happened? 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.240 Yes? Yeah, My favorite. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.440 My favorite was I had my radio flyer wagon and 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.080 I had my daughter sitting in it because we were 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.000 gonna walk down the street like a couple like several 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.000 blocks to the pet store to get dog food. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.800 I was like something to do, Like you. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.079 Gotta listen, you gotta fill the time activity, so you 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.960 gotta fill the time. Yeah, you gotta kill it's all 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.400 this cock man, it's all running out the cock. So 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.359 I'm like pulling her down the street. She's just looking around. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.040 And then I just hear you gotta talk to her, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.520 and I look and there's a mom across the street, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:23.400 like you gotta talk to her. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.720 Dad, talk to your kid. Huh. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.080 I didn't want to talk to her ever again, just 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.800 out of spite for that you got constant. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.480 Why is it any of her business? And also what 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:34.360 does that even mean? 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:35.320 I don't know. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.480 I think she just thought I had just a quiet 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.560 dad who's just like pointing to point, b get that 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.280 out of your mouth and then that's it and then 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.280 we're home. I don't know, but it was definitely like 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.600 so targeted that it was like this idiot is doing 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.760 such a bad job. And she saw me for three 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.240 seconds before she was yelling across the street. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.520 You're not constant, constant. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.800 I took my my son had like an orthodonist appointment, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.000 and I don't know, this is like a year and 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.760 a half ago or something, and so I take him 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.760 to the appointment. After the appointment, we're going over like 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.679 going forward, we want to be doing this practice and 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.800 doing these things. And then basically I get the whole 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.440 rundown of how to take care of the teeth, what 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.120 you want to be doing at night, and then going forward, 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.560 we want to do this and if you want, I 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.960 can call your wife and explain all this to her. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.600 It was just like, do I look that stupid dude? 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:29.320 Dis am? 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.760 I just like, and also what you're battling. These societal 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.960 norms are so ingrained. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.600 And if anything, Kevin and I knew what we were 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.040 signing up for when we started putting a bunch of 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.679 stuff on social media, because the internet is an absolute 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:46.199 circus and we've been very fortunate with a lot of 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.760 the comments that we get and of supportive parents, moms 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.480 and dads out there. But when that kind of stuff 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.560 happens in real life or sometimes in the comments, we 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.640 just laugh about it, like, man, guess what somebody told me? 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.920 Because I don't take that personally. Are just like I'm here, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.440 I brought my kid. I was able to find my 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:04.640 card and pay for it. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:10.120 So I am an adult, I am a responsible Yeah. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.280 I wonder if there's ever the double standard too. I 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.800 have a very good friend who has three children. When 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.120 he goes around with the three kids, let's say, in 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.120 the airport on the plane, like, people are like, oh 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.160 my gosh, look at that. It's a man doing all 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.600 the heavy lifting with child rearing. Everybody, get out of 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.280 the way. What can we do to help? Do you 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.000 have those experience as well as the ones where they're like, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.920 what are you doing here at ballet? This is not 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.600 for you. This is Mommi's and children. Is there ever 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:46.480 the opposite? 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.120 I've had that specifically at the grocery store, just waiting 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.920 in line. I was holding my daughter, not doing anything special. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.000 I was talking to her, this time you learned your lesson. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.599 I was talking. But some I'm like, not always, but 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:05.080 it's usually an older woman who will say, she just goes, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.360 you're such a good dad. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.320 And I was like, you don't know that, you don't 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:09.640 know that. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.360 You didn't hear me the way I screamed at her 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.880 in the car before I got or whatever, like I just. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:21.240 Popped a filling, gritting my teeth earlier, but okay. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.000 And I'll say this too. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.360 It's so unfair because this is another joke that we 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.000 tell or that something we joke about. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.320 It's like that will happen. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.200 And yet you paint the scenario where there's this mom 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:37.040 behind you who is by yourself with three children who 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.040 are going crazy, and she's just trying her best to 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.880 like wrangle them and keep them calm and save for 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.959 the moment, like she's running circles around you in that 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.040 moment in terms of parenting, when you're just holding your 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.520 kid right, like yeah, And that's not talked about it 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.080 enough either. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.920 Oh my god, it sucks. I can think about it. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.800 We've both flown with both of our children multiple times 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:03.480 by ourselves. I get eye rolls. How dare you bring 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.360 children on a plane. I'm like, I'm back next to 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.440 the toilets where I belong. People, I don't know how 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.080 even grossing at my children across the country to visit family. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.640 And yet Adam, when he's flown by himself, people are like, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.160 can I help you with your bags? Let me put 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.800 them up for you. What does he need? And I'm 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.520 just like, what the fuck. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.360 The cocktail is on us? 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.360 Yeah, It's like, oh, like yay, he's doing something like, yeah, 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.920 he should be doing this so backwards. It's very backwards. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.360 But I do feel bad. I don't know what it 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.840 is about people being so shocked when because I kind 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.040 of am too. I'm looking, I'm asking myself of it. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.480 I'm trying to think of when the dad has been 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.840 at the mommy and me class, or let's call it 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.240 the toddler and me class, or the chance something like 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.720 why are we so like, what are you doing here? 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.320 It's so ingrained, I guess. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.840 I mean it's tough because I think there is like 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.160 there are a lot of dads that fall into the category, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.679 or at least they used to be. I'm sure it's 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.160 a much greater and less number now, but like that 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.880 that are just like to do the weaponized incompetence of well, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.320 you already know how this stuff. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.880 Why should I do it? Mom's already knows there's so 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.680 much better at it than I am, so I'll just 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:18.520 let you do it. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.480 By the way, all you moms listening, whether you're stay 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.960 at home or you work or whatever. I always tell 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.360 my mom friends when they're like, I just do everything 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.240 because I don't even want to take the time because 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.160 it takes him longer to do it. I'm like, oh boy, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.400 you are fucking yourself, because let this be a lesson 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.000 you will do everything. First of all, Let go of 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.600 whoever you're co parenting with doing it different than you 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.840 and it being worse or better. Who cares. Just let 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.960 them do it, because then they'll do it and you're 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.360 not doing it. Go hide in your room. It's just 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.760 setting up that the workload should be shared between everybody, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.400 and you're really setting yourself up for failure if you're 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.960 starting from jump doing everything because you want it done 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.480 a certain way, big trouble. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.240 Everyone's gonna have a breaking point and you're just stacking on. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:09.840 It's too much responsibility. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.200 Kevin and Evan, when you told your wives that, you 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.200 were like, I'll just be a stay at home debt. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.600 How did your wives deal with it? 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.600 It was kind of more of like a oh wait, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.080 hold on, Like we were we've definitely considered talked about 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.239 having kids before and then just looking back me, particularly 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.720 with our schedule, I was already bartending nights, she was 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.000 working days and you know, till seven, and it was like, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.240 I think we have a good situation here, and then yeah, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.240 we had the honest conversation was that something you'd want 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.800 to do, It's gonna be a lot of work. And 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.200 luckily I had a good support sysem Evan and I 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.400 have a My brother and sister in law lived nearby, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.360 so when I had to run errands, I could always 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.440 drop the kids off if it was something I couldn't 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.240 bring the kids. But yeah, it was actually pretty pretty 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.440 straightforward of like I'm I am a dumb dad because 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.320 I was just kind of like I was kind of 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.160 the Adobe dad of just like yeah, how you did it? 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.880 Did you two decide together? Was it a conversation that 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.920 you two also had, Like, hey, bro, like I'm thinking 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:11.680 about doing this. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.840 I don't think we I don't think no because your 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.080 kid is a year and a half. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.560 Yeah, my kid's almost yeah, more than a year older. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.600 I had the first I was the first one to 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.600 have a baby, right, So gratulations yeah, and so so 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.920 god man, just so many paths just so, but he's 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.240 right in saying that, Like I felt like a dumb 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.680 dad too, like yeah, I could do that. But it 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.560 was also like financially, it kind of made this when 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.960 you start figuring out like this is how much preschool costs? Like, 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.240 I don't even make that much money, but if I'm 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.160 a stay at home dad, it's like that's how much 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.920 I make a month, essentially, because otherwise we'd have to 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.720 pay that amount of money to have somebody. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.400 Else daycare or a babysitter or something. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.280 Financially, it works, schedule wise, it works. Same thing I was. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.760 I think I had transitioned out of working a full 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.400 time job into bartending as well, working in bars as well. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.480 Eventually it was just like, thankfully you want to do 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.480 that right now anymore trying to turn this into like 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:02.640 our job. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.720 What would we do yea guys, Yeah, dumb dads. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.359 It was like two different lives. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.160 You're working a job until three thirty in the morning 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.479 and then coming home and then being a say home 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:12.000 dad was. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.920 Like really difficult. After a while, the older we got 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.560 it was like, this is a difficult switch. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.200 But the dumb dad part comes in with, like Kevin said, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.560 just by going yeah, I think I can do it. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.320 I think I will do. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.919 It, and that it goes back to like being involved 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.240 in sharing the responsibility. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:28.840 The dumb comes into. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.200 Parenting is hard and you're gonna make mistakes all over 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.399 the place, so you might as well. Just go for 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.840 it and try it and learn from your mistakes and 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:44.399 get better at it. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.800 Evan and Kevin, what did your most epic dad fail 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:52.240 to date? 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.560 We talk about this every week on our podcast What's 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.000 the dumb Thing You did this Week? And there's always. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:02.439 Something one that was almost really bad. Thankfully it wasn't. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.119 Everything ended up fine. Was when my son was born. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.440 I stayed overnight, my daughter stayed with Evan, and then 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.639 stayed in the hospital overnight, and then the next day 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.320 I was like, all right, I'm gonna go home tonight 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.720 and I'll sleep at the apartment with my daughter. So 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.800 I left my mom with the baby, so I get 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.240 her pick her up, and then I'm getting all the 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.639 stuff out of the car and my wife is in 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.919 the hospital recovering with our newborn, and I slammed that 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.080 trunk on my daughter's head. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:33.879 As hard as I could. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.439 No, whah, yeah, she stepped forward right as I was like, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:43.639 it's a hatchback. So you're just like no, I'm like, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.720 we're going to the hospital. Like I'm gonna be calling 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.280 my wife being like, hey, we're downstairs if you need 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.879 anything in the er. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.719 She's getting stitches right next to the cafeteria concussion, but 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.960 she was okay, she was totally fine. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:04.280 Apparently I've noodle arms. Thank god. Well she's gotta fix. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.600 But I remember I was like going to slam the 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.080 trunk like you do, and she's. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.200 Did that my mom's head, and I still remember the feeling. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.159 I remember so bad. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:15.880 I remember everything about it. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.480 Yeah, its picture protect right, dar image right there. Oh, 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:25.360