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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. This is Chandler Room joined again with

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Speaker 1: Tyler Stafford for another episode of Crush City Territory. And

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Speaker 1: if you can't tell, I am back in Houston at

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Speaker 1: my undisclosed location. I got on a plane from West

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach to Houston yesterday. When I had boarded the plane,

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Speaker 1: Cam Smith had hit one home run. When I landed,

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Speaker 1: he had hit two. And everyone is reacting very rationally,

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Speaker 1: Tyler certainly not taking this for what it is. And

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Speaker 1: just two home runs in an exhibition game in February.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all I'm hearing is you may not get to

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Speaker 2: attend any Astros games this year because Cam Smith just

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Speaker 2: rakes when you're not watching. So you may be the problem,

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Speaker 2: and so Twitter may just turn against you even more

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Speaker 2: so than usual.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say Twitter turned against me a

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Speaker 1: very very long time ago, as evidenced by some of

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Speaker 1: the responses we received this episode. So this is a

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Speaker 1: this is a new kind of format for us. We're

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Speaker 1: doing a mailbag today because quite frankly, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: really anything else to talk about from spring training. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty monotonous and I'm not gonna sit here and break

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Speaker 1: down to Cam Smith home runs in an exhibition game

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Speaker 1: for thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Glove that Julia posted, I did, it's Marlins.

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Speaker 3: It's got Marlins. But the best.

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Speaker 2: Part was the the quote said he said he gave

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean they're probably the same size hand, so

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Speaker 1: been saying it all along. This is not this is

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Speaker 1: the hell of it, Like this is this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: This is real. And then there is you know, we

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Speaker 1: do have one piece of news to share that jose

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Speaker 1: Al Tuve will play on Friday against the Cardinals. He'll

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Speaker 1: make his Great Fruit League debut then and it will

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Speaker 1: I would say, barring barring him completely making a fool

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Speaker 1: gonna see, really once he gets into Great Fruit League games,

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Speaker 3: This is fun.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: What it also does is that, you know, the first

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Speaker 2: while the standings start to work themselves out. It's not

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Speaker 2: the end of the season where you're really paying attention

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Speaker 2: to how far back jose al Tube playing left field

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Speaker 2: is the perfect reason to watch a Tuesday night game

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Speaker 3: Into the season. I can't wait. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they sent when I don't think they go

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that'll be that'll be a reason to watch

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Speaker 1: your first chance on Friday. I will not be there, unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: I will be elsewhere. I will be celebrating Carnival in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louisiana. If I make it back from New

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Speaker 1: training March ninth. I believe I'm flying back, so be

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of follow the stuff from AFAR, have

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Speaker 1: the listeners, the people that have helped us really really

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Speaker 1: you believe it?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I've never spoken to you before this, so

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Speaker 2: you know this is this is nuts.

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Speaker 1: I know. I wonder if people can I wonder if

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Speaker 3: Hate you yet mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually behind all those burners in your replies.

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Speaker 2: It's just thirty accounts that I pay for and just

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you pay for Twitter. What a weird existence.

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Speaker 1: So if you please again please rate and review this,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you guys sent in a ton

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Speaker 3: Would you want to be when you grew up? Chandler?

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Speaker 3: What did I want to be when I real little kid?

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Speaker 1: I didn't really have any of those weird dreams. Like

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Speaker 2: I remember as a kid going to the grocery store

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I could be here to witness an encapsulation

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Speaker 1: The Were they playing the Marlins?

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Speaker 1: The Mets. No, not of course not the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the pod, Austin Warren was pitching.

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Speaker 1: I believe never heard of him.

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Speaker 1: I've decided, Well, Key, I didn't mean to insult your brother.

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Speaker 1: But so back to Michael's question, will will cam Smith

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Speaker 1: with some facts right now, Cam Smith has taken one

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Speaker 1: He can light up Great Fruit League play. We've seen

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Speaker 1: But to Michael's point, like Dana Brown's not afraid to

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Speaker 1: And to your point, I mean, I'll bring my school

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Speaker 1: And I took everyone under serious consideration. They'll my verdict

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Speaker 3: So you're you're.

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Speaker 1: seen a rotation that stays completely intact and healthy for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games. The closest I ever

437
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: saw were the twenty eighteen Astros, who their five man

438
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: rotation did not miss a turn until I believe August

439
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium when Lance mcculler's junior blew out his

440
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: elbow and he didn't make his next start. So they

441
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Speaker 1: had five guys stay on turn in the rotation until August.

442
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Speaker 1: That is unheard of. The Mariners last year had a

443
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Speaker 1: similar thing, but Brian Wu had two iyel stints last

444
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: year they had to call up Emerson Hancock for a

445
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: couple of starts. So just put that in your head.

446
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Now, that and half the guys he mentioned are coming

447
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: from injury too, which makes them significantly more likely to

448
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 2: be injured.

449
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Speaker 1: Right, I would be I would personally be floored if

450
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: Christian Xavier or JP France pitches meaningful innings for this

451
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Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty five. Just given a how the

452
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: Astros rehabbing system has gone the last couple of years,

453
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Speaker 1: They've been rife with setbacks. They have not done a

454
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: good job of getting their pitchers back in a timely fashion. Now,

455
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: everybody is different, every body is different, every arm is different,

456
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: every rehab is different, and there's no one way to

457
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: do this. And they have to treat all these guys carefully.

458
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, especially Christian Javier, who they have a lot

459
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: of money invested in for a lot of years coming up.

460
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think they hope that both of

461
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: those guys can pitch after the All Star break. But

462
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: we heard the same thing last year about Luis Garcia.

463
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: We heard the same thing last year about Lance mcculor's.

464
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: We heard the same thing about Javier and Erkidi when

465
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Speaker 1: they initially got hurt. I'm here to tell you that

466
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: it would take a completely perfect set of events for

467
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Speaker 1: this entire thing to stay healthy. So as far as

468
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: how the bullpen and the rotation will adjust, it's going

469
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: to kind of sort itself out, because if and when

470
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Speaker 1: Lance mccullors comes back, it'll be pretty obvious what someone

471
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: will very likely have some soreness, someone will not be pitching. Well,

472
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: it will all kind of sort itself out when these

473
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Speaker 1: guys are ready to come back. So that's one second.

474
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Speaker 1: Is he asked, what's the likelihood of frombervel does coming

475
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty six, I would say that's lower

476
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: than the possibility that Nolan Arnado comes to the Astros.

477
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: I'd put it at ten percent, and.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going to be here.

479
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: Everybody enjoy fromber I means great to watch. This is

480
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: their last year watching him in an Astro's uniform.

481
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Speaker 1: If you guys haven't learned by now, like watching how

482
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: the Astros operate, watching how they operate with all of

483
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: their free agent to bees and everything like that, Like

484
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else to tell you, Like, you've

485
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: got to take this team's actions better than its words,

486
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: and look, mark my words. Presuming they don't trade him

487
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: at the deadline, and presuming that they're contention and they

488
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: get to the end of the season, Dana Brown at

489
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: some point next winter will say that Frombervel does is

490
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: our biggest priority. We want to resign Fromer. We've got

491
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: to get fromber Back said the same thing about Bregman.

492
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: James Klick said the same thing about Correa. I don't

493
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: even know who was running baseball ops when George Springer

494
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: became a free agent, but whoever it was at that

495
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: point probably said that he was their biggest priority. Their

496
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: actions speak louder than words. This is a team that,

497
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: under Jim Crane, has never guaranteed any pitcher more than

498
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: ninety five million dollars. They have never guaranteed a starting

499
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: pitcher more than eighty five million dollars and Tyler that

500
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: eighty five million dollars is guaranteed the Lance mccollors and

501
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to relitigate the Lance mccollors saga. I'm

502
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: frankly I'm tired of it. But seeing how that contract

503
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: has aged, I think that's going to have a ton

504
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: of influence when you start to discuss whether this is

505
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: a never mind too that Fromervel does is going to

506
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Speaker 1: make double that.

507
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to get seven years, two hundred and

508
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: something million dollars like, yeah, it's it's way out of

509
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: the Astros price range. It's it's not happening.

510
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: And let's also remember too that they have they fielded

511
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: trade inquiries for Fromberveldaz. They fielded them last year, They

512
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: talked about him this year too. They held on to

513
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: him both years. But just by the fact that they

514
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Speaker 1: have done that, by the fact that they have been

515
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: willing to listen, just underscores that they know they're not

516
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Speaker 1: going to retain them. They know they're not going to

517
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Speaker 1: pay him. The only way, I think, the only way

518
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: he's back in an Astro's uniform next year is if

519
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: you know, heaven forbid he gets injured this year or

520
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: just has a complete fall on his face type season

521
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: that completely depresses his market, and maybe him and his

522
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: representatives are open to like a shorter term one year

523
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: with an opt out after the second year, get him

524
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: back on the market next winter. That's the only way

525
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Speaker 1: that I think there's a realistic chance of Frombert Welles

526
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: back with the Astros. Let's uh, let's go to our

527
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: next question. Do you like this, tyler? Do you like this?

528
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: This vibe?

529
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: This mailbag vibe? Is this is this fulfilling all of

530
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: your uh, thank you, your childhood hopes and dreams about

531
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: I like.

532
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: That they get to drive on the wrong side, you know,

533
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: they get to they're in the passenger seat side because

534
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: it's closer to the mailbox. And I always thought that

535
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: was cool.

536
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: This question is from the appropriately named you Don't Know Show,

537
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: which pretty much sums up the show, which with the

538
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: injuries to tremmel and Leone and Melton, how would you

539
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: rank the outfield in spring training to make the roster?

540
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: So as as he alluded to, uh, he does know

541
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: that uh Pedro Leone has a grade one mcl strain.

542
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: First of all, kudos to the Astros for saying grade

543
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: one m cl strain out loud and not like lower

544
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: body discomfort or like wrong body part discomfort. Props to them.

545
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they're turning over a new leaf. Taylor Tremmel severely

546
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: strained his calf while running the bases a couple of

547
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: days ago. Jacob Melton reported to camp with some back soreness.

548
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: He has progressed to baseball activities, but is not close

549
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: to getting into games. So those three guys are not

550
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: gonna be playing in games for the foreseeable future with

551
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: them not in the fold. You look at the outfield

552
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: now and you go left to right, you probably say

553
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: al Tuove in left field most of the time, Jake

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: Myers in center, and Chas McCormick and Wright. With the

555
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: dearth of left handed hitting on this team, Ben Gamble

556
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: to me, has to be the next guy up. He's

557
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: a left handed hitter, can play both corner spots. They

558
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: can put him in left field on days when al

559
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: Tuove is gonna play second or do some different stuff.

560
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: I think he's far and away kind of right under

561
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: them as the next guy to make it and I

562
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: think the wild card here, Tyler Zach Dezenzo, who is

563
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: having a really good spring to start. He's barrel some

564
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: balls up, he looks great. They're they're playing him there.

565
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: They want intentionally to get him in corner outfield play

566
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: in spring training, to see how he looks out there

567
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: after playing in Puerto Rico. This winner, I think Tyler,

568
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: he's probably the guy that if he comes out and

569
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: has a really good spring, like really forces their hand.

570
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: He can be the guy that that maybe sneaks into

571
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: that last bench spot that that rounds out the outfield.

572
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I could also see them too, you know,

573
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: if it if it doesn't stay that same way, you

574
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: would rather have a gamble, you know, somebody who's just

575
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: a veteran that can sit on the bench for three

576
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: or four days at a time and continue to let

577
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Dezenzo get abs every day in tripa A if he's

578
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: not quite ready to do that because you don't want to.

579
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: You don't want to bring him up and then him

580
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: just not play but once a week, you know, so

581
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: it'll it'll kind of depend on how those things shake out.

582
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: But also, you know, we mentioned all of those guys

583
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: who were injured or whatever. That's why they signed eight

584
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: guys in that you know level of just fourth fifth

585
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: outfielder guy, Like one of them is gonna work. That's

586
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: all they need. They need, they need one of the

587
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: people that they have given contracts to to be a

588
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: fourth outfielder.

589
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

590
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: And so it's gonna it's gonna have to be one

591
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: of them. So we're we're running out at this point

592
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: of outfielders left, but it'll be It'll be one of them.

593
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I think too. You know, you mentioned you don't want

594
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: to bring to Zenzo up and not play him. Joe

595
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Aspata is on the record saying if he's going to

596
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: carry a prospect, they need to play every day. And

597
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I know how they did, how they handled last year

598
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: runs completely counter to that. I get Joey Loperfito came

599
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: up two or three times last year and barely played.

600
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I get they called Dezenzo up last year at the

601
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: end of the year and it was the same thing

602
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: pedro Leone. The same thing this year, though, there's a

603
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: lot more flexibility in what they can do because they

604
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: don't have entrenched guys everywhere. I mean, you're looking at

605
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a different second baseman maybe every night.

606
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: You if Chas McCormick doesn't get off to a great start,

607
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: you could have a different right fielder every night. If

608
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Josel I mean, just by virtue of Josel tub being

609
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: out there, he gonna play one hundred and sixty two

610
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: in left field, You're gonna have a different left fielder

611
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: every night. So there's a lot more room for Joe

612
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Espata to maneuver his bench, to maneuver his lineups, to

613
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: make sure that if they do carries act Dezenzo, that

614
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: he can get close to every day at bats. And

615
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I think the one so as we're talking about this,

616
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Tyler and no one asked this, but the one thing

617
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: that it is kind of showing that it's kind of

618
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: demonstrating does John Singleton have a place on this roster?

619
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope.

620
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: So it's fun that he's been there forever. And I

621
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: mean you reported that he's just jacked now, so yeah,

622
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I hope. So, but it's not it's not gonna be easy.

623
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, because you could conceivably see a because look,

624
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Victor Carrotin's on the bench, one of Gamble or Decenzo

625
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: is going to be on the bench Carotene's a switch hitter. Whoever,

626
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: whomever they decide to play with Dubon at second base,

627
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: be that your may be it Brendan Rodgers. They're going

628
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: to be on the bench, and then there's one spot open,

629
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: and you ask yourself, if Zach Deznzo has a huge camp,

630
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: do they carry him over John Singleton or is it

631
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: one of these situations where John Singleton's left handed? He is,

632
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: as you just said, more apt and more use accustomed

633
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to coming off the bench, not taking it at bat

634
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: in a day or two, and then coming into a

635
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: big situation to face a leverage reliever. Swings at strikes,

636
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: doesn't swing at balls, can hit ball six hundred feet

637
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: when he connects with him. Do you think, I mean

638
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: this could come down to do you bring Zach Dezenzo

639
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: in his right handed bat for that potential or do

640
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: you want the left handed maybe more of a sure

641
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: thing in John Singleton when you know what he can

642
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: do off the bench.

643
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: I think if you're starting the year, you're just gonna

644
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: unless it's just outrageous, one outperforms the other. I think

645
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Singleton start the year because you can't

646
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: do anything with him other than that, you have.

647
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: To let him go.

648
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: And so you might as well force the Zenzo to

649
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: force his way onto the roster or get some clarity

650
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Speaker 2: of your major league roster and then maybe there's a

651
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Speaker 2: spot open somewhere else that you weren't expecting. But I mean,

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: like I said, Dozenzo would have to massively outplay everybody

653
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: really to force them to give up on Singleton, I

654
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: would think.

655
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree. I like Dezenzo would

656
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: have to there would have to be an injury, or

657
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Dezenzo would really have to have a Joey Loperfedo type spring.

658
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: And look, Joey Loperfedo had a Joey Liperfido spring last

659
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: year and didn't make the roster, So he could even

660
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: do all that and it still may not matter. So

661
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: and look, they may also want to get They may

662
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: sendsact Decenzo to triple A and say, for the first

663
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: month of the season, you're doing nothing but playing in

664
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Speaker 1: the corner outfields, and then we'll see where the roster's

665
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: at after the first thirty games of the year, and

666
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: if you can help, you're coming up.

667
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's no need to when you have the

668
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: flexibility to put somebody in in triple A, like it's

669
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: the first month of the season. That's that's the point,

670
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: is to kind of figure it out, you know, like

671
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: it whatever roster is, theresion they make is not going

672
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: to swing the season one way or the other, so

673
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: you might as well take the more flexible option.

674
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Speaker 1: I had a very wise member of the Astros organization

675
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: on the backfields in spring training a couple of days

676
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: ago tell me, you know, what we carry on opening

677
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: day does not mean you know that's going to be

678
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: And he pointed out an example. I don't have the

679
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: exact number in front of him, but he goes, we

680
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: won the World Series in twenty twenty two with Nico

681
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: Goodram leading off a respectable number of games.

682
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter what you carry on March

684
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. That matters sort of what you carry on

685
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: September twenty seventh.

686
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know Orbit could talk. Why was he telling

687
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: you that?

688
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the only person that really talks to

689
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: me anyway. I mean, he's not the number one mask,

690
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: he's not the number one mascot in Houston for no reason.

691
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Let's do one more question, and then we'll get out

692
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: of here. Your mail route is ending very soon. So

693
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: final question is from d Berkowitz. They ask, I know

694
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: it's early, but which astros would be your picks one batter,

695
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: one pitcher to be most improved and or biggest surprise

696
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: his performance and production wise this season. This is commonly

697
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: referred to in baseball circles as the pick to click, Tyler,

698
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: do you want to do picture? Let's split these. Do

699
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: you want to do picture or hitter?

700
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: I mean I did I have a picture for sure?

701
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: All right, I'll do a hitter. I'm not gonna steal

702
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: Joe a spot as thunder because Joe A. Spotta came

703
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: on this pod last month and said Jeremy Pania was

704
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: his pick to click. So we'll we'll leave. We'll let

705
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Joe have his We'll let Joe have his glory. If

706
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: if if Jeremy Pania uh does actually click, I'm gonna

707
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with his act. Zenzo honestly,

708
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: like I think just watching him in the way he

709
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: has approached spring training, everything he has said, everything you know,

710
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: this is a he is. He looks to me like

711
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: he's on the Cusp and again, I could be falling

712
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: in love with watching VP on the backfields. I could

713
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: be falling in love with a guy that came in

714
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: in the quote unquote best shape of his life. Because

715
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Zach Dezenzo, if I'm bringing it, if I'm bringing a

716
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: team to a if I'm bringing a team on the road,

717
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: he's a bus guy.

718
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: He's a guy that.

719
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: You want second or third coming off the bus. Like

720
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: you want Jeremy Pania, you want John Singleton, and you

721
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: want Zach Dezenzo walking off the bus. Those are the

722
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: three guys you want walking up. He is a unit.

723
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: He is very well put together. He looks like he

724
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: can handle both corner outfield spots. And in his time

725
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: in the big leagues last year, like I know, the

726
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: numbers aren't great, but the bats were good, Like he

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: did not look over match. This was not a guy

728
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: that came up and you could tell like they called

729
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: him up too early, like he was out of place,

730
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Like he fit in. Uh, the bats looked okay despite

731
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: the numbers, the swing decisions were improving. If he I

732
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: think there is certainly an avenue, as we've discussed on

733
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: this team, for him to get regular at bats. So

734
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to I think I think ultimately

735
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: he does begin the season in Triple A. But I

736
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: think if he can get if he can force their

737
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: hand and get up here by May. He's the kind

738
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: of guy that I think can maybe be a guy

739
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: that really no one's talking about that can be their

740
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: pick to click.

741
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Speaker 3: Uh.

742
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: Dezenzo and Cam Smith are gonna be all time bus

743
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: guys together getting off minor league buses.

744
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Uh for sure, can both.

745
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: Cam Smith should be playing like outside linebacker for.

746
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: The Yeah massive Okay, someone must have said I was

747
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: off Twitter for an hour and then I kept seeing

748
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Cam Smith's face on aircraft carriers? Where did that come from?

749
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: Dana Brown referred to him as an aircraft carrier. I

750
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: can't decide if it was because of like his body shape,

751
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: or if it was because like he can carry a franchise.

752
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: Or he launches rockets.

753
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: Perhaps I think it's somewhere all three of those things.

754
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, if he, if he becomes a thing, which

755
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: I think he will, aircraft carrier is gonna be associated

756
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: with Cam Smith for however long he's an.

757
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Ash Okay, so he's definitely going to Corpus Christy then

758
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: next to the Lexington.

759
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Yes, he might not stay there, he might not stay

760
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: there long, but he'll be there.

761
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: But we will have a photo shoot of Cam Smith

762
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: on an aircraft carrier minus one that we've been talking

763
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: about throughout the year. But I think I think Forret

764
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: sweetly comes in and locks down the seventh inning role

765
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: for this team. He's looked really good, honestly since last year.

766
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he was great in Triple A last year.

767
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: I think he's finally healthy.

768
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: You know.

769
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Speaker 2: We we've talked to a few guys who have seen

770
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: him a bunch, you know, in the offseason in Houston,

771
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 2: and have just heard nothing but great things. And he's

772
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: going to get chances because there's there's no options left,

773
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, So he's going to come up and they're

774
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: gonna pitch him every other day for a month or

775
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: two unless he's just awful because they have to, you know,

776
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: like you're you're not gonna be able to shuttle him

777
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: back and forth. And uh yeah, I mean, I think

778
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: it finally clicks for him this year and he's a

779
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: really important piece of the bullpen for the Astros I

780
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: one hundred.

781
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Speaker 1: He would have been my picture if I had if

782
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: I Drew that stick to to be to pick the picture.

783
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, the stuff has never the question

784
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: has never been the stuff like he's he's thrown a

785
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: hundred for many years now, like he's always this stuff

786
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: has always been filthy. It's been more about can he

787
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: stay healthy. It's been more to be quite frank, what's

788
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: between the years, like mentally some stuff with him like

789
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: but he is as clear headed and as you know,

790
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: lucid and has just prepared for this opportunity. I think

791
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: is I've ever seen him in the seven eight years

792
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I've been around him, and I mean he's not dumb,

793
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: like he know. I think he actually told Julia on

794
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: the broadcast a couple days ago, like, yeah, I know

795
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm out of options. I know this is it, Like

796
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: he understands what's at stake here. And again, like I said,

797
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: the stuff has never been in question. So I think,

798
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, last year was valuable for him just to

799
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: transition to becoming a reliever. I think one of the

800
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: things about him that the Astros I think are going

801
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: to look to exploit a little bit is he's still

802
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: got enough pitches to like get through a lineup more

803
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: than once. Like I'm not saying they're going to stretch

804
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: him out to be a starter. But Joe Spot has

805
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: said that they want to see if he can get

806
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: them more than three outs, and I believe he only

807
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: had four appearances in Triple A last year where he

808
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: got more than three outs, So seeing maybe if he

809
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: can give them multiple innings to be let to be,

810
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily a long guy, but like, especially

811
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: early in the year, relievers that can go multiple innings

812
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: are a godsend because, aside from fromber Like, none of

813
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: these starters are going to be really built up to

814
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: go seven innings one hundred pitches if they even know

815
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: that anymore in today's game. So having a reliever that

816
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: can go multiple innings and get through a lineup with

817
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: a couple of I mean, Forrest throws five pitches. I mean,

818
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: this is not a two pitch reliever. It's gonna come

819
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: in here and get solved after five hitters. Like hes

820
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: still got the starting repertoire, and they're going to try

821
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: to stretch get you know, five to seven outs out

822
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: of him, and that's going to increase his value even

823
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: more because the more innings you can eat, that's the

824
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: less that you have to get a break you up

825
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: that you have to get hater up, that you have

826
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: to get Taylor Scott, who you know ran they ran

827
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: him into the ground last year. Like you can avoid

828
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: that if you've got guys that can get you multiple

829
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: outs or multiple innings, and they want force Whitley to

830
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: be that guy.

831
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember the year McHugh went in to the bullpen

832
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: and just destroyed everyone over two and the third innings

833
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: every couple of days. That's I think that's absolutely something

834
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: that that Whitley can do.

835
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: I think staff Ace, Brad Peacock did that once upon.

836
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: A time, of course he did. I mean you could

837
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: do anything.

838
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: I had to had to give Brad Peacock A mentioned before,

839
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: we always will, we always will. Before we get out

840
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: of here. I had to give Brad Peacock his due.

841
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: You know, Brad Peacock and Cam Smith went to the

842
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: same high school I did.

843
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: That was my favorite fact in learning about Cam Smith.

844
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: I was. I was very excited about that.

845
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: So we brought this this is good podcasting. We brought

846
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: this pod full circle. We started talking about Cam Smith

847
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: and then we ended talking about Cam Smith, who is

848
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: probably going to be the talk of Astros spring training.

849
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: From here on out. He's going to start, I believe

850
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: on Thursday at third Days. I'm sure there will be

851
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: lots of freaking out if he like hits a double

852
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: in his first at bat.

853
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: He's really good. I know he's really good at baseball.

854
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: You can tell already. I mean, I don't know what

855
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: he will be career wise, but you can just tell, like, oh,

856
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: that guy's.

857
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: A really good baseball player. And yeah, and look, I

858
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: want to be clear, I'm not trying to like dismiss

859
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: what Cam Smith is doing. Like, yeah, again, he's got

860
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four professional plate appearances. Like the

861
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: fact that he is doing this in big league spring

862
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: training games.

863
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Is absurd, crazy. He's good.

864
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: It shows how good he is. But let's like, like

865
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: you would if guys struggle in Great Fruit League play,

866
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: temper some expectations. Let's let's remember that you know, these

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Speaker 1: when the guys he's facing a lot of times in

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Speaker 1: these games are either working on stuff or like maybe

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Speaker 1: not pitching him like they pitch him in an actual game.

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Speaker 1: So let's say, brother, yeah, Keeley, your brother. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: your brother will have much better days. I hope he does.

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Speaker 1: But you know, look, let's let's be rational, let's be calm.

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Speaker 1: That's certainly a thing to tell Astras fans rational. Being

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Speaker 1: rational and calm is their middle name, as we well know,

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Speaker 1: and we thank them for their submissions for this mail

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Speaker 1: back episode. I like this, Tyler. We can do this

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Speaker 1: more often. We definitely will do this more often, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get more insight from you guys, more feedback, listen

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Speaker 1: to what you guys want to talk about. So we

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Speaker 1: will be back next week, presuming I survive Marty Garral.

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Speaker 1: We will be back next week with another couple episodes

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Speaker 1: of Krush City Territory, going off of what's going on

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Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach and getting you ready for the

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Speaker 1: Astros in the regular season. But for this episode, I'm

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Speaker 1: sharing the room with Tyler Stafford. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: Bye,