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Speaker 4: Yeah, he on one this morning checks things you said
Speaker 4: last week that were not so great.
Speaker 5: New week.
Speaker 4: It's a new week, though. You gotta let this next
Speaker 4: next play mindset.
Speaker 3: Hey man, you made a statement about a player in
Speaker 3: the league that was supposed to have picked up the
Speaker 3: assist slack for a player that is injured. So right there, Oh,
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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit of college ball.
Speaker 1: My friends Alabama, YU Kind, NC State and Purdue in
Speaker 1: the final four.
Speaker 2: It was quite the weekend.
Speaker 1: North Carolina State Duke was leaning halftime, That's all I
Speaker 1: got to say. And yet nc stage is now America's sweetheart.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the big man matchup between
Speaker 1: Burns and EATI.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is coming down to just
Speaker 4: being an old school type matchup where you got two
Speaker 4: dominant biggs in the college basketball scene that have been
Speaker 4: leading the teams all year, two different type playing styles.
Speaker 4: You know, DJ Burns is a guy that's you know,
Speaker 4: with his play lately, he's getting a lot of comparisons
Speaker 4: to Zach Randolph. And you know he's him being a
Speaker 4: left handed, you know, not as athletic big man, but
Speaker 4: with a wide base and just the ability to move
Speaker 4: the opposing defenses with his with his strength and size,
Speaker 4: that's a matchup nightmare for anybody.
Speaker 5: And then you got the big man EATI and Purdue
Speaker 5: seven foot plus plus plus.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of plus. That's a lot of plus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a big matchup. So I think this
Speaker 4: matchup is going to be one for the ages. I'm
Speaker 4: I'm really excited for because we're getting back to the
Speaker 4: foundation of basketball, which is you know, going through the
Speaker 4: big man.
Speaker 5: I think this is much watch TV.
Speaker 4: I think this tournaments has exceeded expectations, and I'm excited
Speaker 4: for so looking forward to this matchup.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like Yukon has been so
Speaker 1: good and so dominant, the whole thing feels a little,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's lack and suspense for me. Everyone
Speaker 1: can go do their thing in these games, but we
Speaker 1: all know Yukon. I mean, man, they are a giant
Speaker 1: to me, it's almost like the women's matchups have been
Speaker 1: a little bit more interesting at this stage, at this round,
Speaker 1: especially with this Elite eight. We've got Monday night Yukon
Speaker 1: versus USC LSU versus Iowa. Of course that's the rematch
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark Angel Reese from last year. But what do
Speaker 1: you feel like though, when you look at this and
Speaker 1: this happening this early. Is that a disappointment that they're
Speaker 1: meeting this early or is it just juiced up a
Speaker 1: little bit for you?
Speaker 3: I think it keeps it spicy.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously we won't have to send the rematches last year,
Speaker 3: but to have it this early on in the in
Speaker 3: the games, I'm excited for it, especially with injuries, the
Speaker 3: way she's been talking shit the whole season, She's continued
Speaker 3: to be a standout. You know, She's handled all the
Speaker 3: criticisms throughout a whole a couple of years at LSU.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to the matchup again and I'm
Speaker 3: excited to watch those ladies play tonight.
Speaker 2: Who you got, bug.
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm actually hoping this LSU team can pull it out.
Speaker 4: You know, I think they've been great for women's sports.
Speaker 4: I think they've been a great representation regardless of people
Speaker 4: you know, agree with their playing style or not. You know,
Speaker 4: I have a lot of similarities when it comes to
Speaker 4: Angel Rees. You know, the trash talk, the energy she brings,
Speaker 4: the grit she plays with every night, and.
Speaker 5: Just her being able to accept criticism.
Speaker 4: And play through all this, you know, adversity while being
Speaker 4: you know, one of the biggest stars in college. I
Speaker 4: think that's remarkable and I don't think she gets enough
Speaker 4: credit for it. When they when they entered this stage
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, nobody expected it to you know,
Speaker 4: turn into this and you know, like I said, I
Speaker 4: think they've been a great representation for women's sports. They've
Speaker 4: definitely elevated the sport. And I think these young ladies
Speaker 4: are are you know, a newfound a new age pioneer
Speaker 4: when it comes to you know, just putting women's sports
Speaker 4: on this new pedestal. And uh, you know, as of recently,
Speaker 4: the women's game has been better than the men's game.
Speaker 4: And that's okay. So you know, credit to these ladies
Speaker 4: for what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, for me, it's just them being
Speaker 1: allowed to be as competitive as they should be. I
Speaker 1: thought all of the crap that Angel Reese took after
Speaker 1: the National Championship game last year. It's just such bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's just all about like, oh, women need to be
Speaker 1: more polite, girls, you know, need to be sportsmanlike that
Speaker 1: kind of crap.
Speaker 2: I mean, these women are athletes.
Speaker 1: They are doing the exact same thing out there that
Speaker 1: their male counterparts are doing. You think Angel Reese invented
Speaker 1: that this is my ring championship sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, no, it's.
Speaker 1: Because men have been doing that for years and years.
Speaker 1: So to pretend like when she does it, it's some violation
Speaker 1: of an unwritten rule. Where where do you think she
Speaker 1: got it from? It just it is blood boiling that
Speaker 1: these women aren't sort of allowed in the public spirit
Speaker 1: to be as competitive as they should be allowed to
Speaker 1: because they are playing a sport. So my hope is
Speaker 1: that things have evolved enough this past year that whoever
Speaker 1: wins IOWA LSU can trash talk the hell out of
Speaker 1: the other person and it's fine with the players. Caitlin
Speaker 1: Clark said at the time, she goes, please, that's great,
Speaker 1: we should be competitive.
Speaker 2: Angel's great.
Speaker 1: I have no issue like we're off court friendly, but
Speaker 1: I just want them to be able to play the
Speaker 1: way basketball players should get to play. So that is
Speaker 1: my hope for tonight, for these coming up women's tournament games,
Speaker 1: is that everyone gets to see them as the standout
Speaker 1: athletes that they are. All right, guys, big news, Joel
Speaker 1: Embiid appears to be making a return, may even be
Speaker 1: coming back as quick as Tuesday night versus okay, see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. He missed twenty eight straight games. Now, I
Speaker 1: have to look at where the Sixers are. They're number
Speaker 1: eight in the East starting out the week seven games
Speaker 1: left to play, they're two back of the sixth spot,
Speaker 1: which is of course where they want to be. They
Speaker 1: want to be out of the plan in what do
Speaker 1: you guys think, Buggie, where are you on this? Do
Speaker 1: you think that seven games is enough when you look
Speaker 1: at the standings here for Joel Embiid to help the
Speaker 1: Sixers get to number six?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, seventy eighty percent join Embiid is still
Speaker 4: better than ninety eight percent of the bigs in the league.
Speaker 5: So with that being.
Speaker 4: Said, true, that being said, obviously I think the Sixers
Speaker 4: are going to get better. They are missing their foundation
Speaker 4: in the Big Fella. But you know, thinking about it
Speaker 4: from a realistic standpoint, like, this is a tough task
Speaker 4: to do. You have seven games regular season. History has
Speaker 4: shown us that you don't have the greatest conditioning coming
Speaker 4: back from these type situations. Hey, maybe this situation he
Speaker 4: approached it a lot differently. He was on a strict
Speaker 4: diet through this whole time. Maybe maybe you know, maybe
Speaker 4: he's figured it out, and I hope he has. But
Speaker 4: from what history has shown us, there will be some
Speaker 4: type of conditioning issues, and that's expected. You miss that
Speaker 4: many games, you're sitting for that long. The knee injury
Speaker 4: isn't something where you can just, you know, go jog
Speaker 4: down the street the next day and keep your wind up.
Speaker 4: Those things just aren't aren't realistic things. So I think
Speaker 4: conditioning will play a part in it. I don't think
Speaker 4: seven games is enough to prepare you for a playoff atmosphere,
Speaker 4: especially when you know you're the folk a point of
Speaker 4: every defense. So that's another challenge in itself. But I
Speaker 4: do think the sixers will improve. I can't I can't
Speaker 4: go out on the limit say I think they'll get
Speaker 4: to the six spot just because he returns. I think
Speaker 4: there will be some russ like I said, conditioning will
Speaker 4: be a factor, but the sixers will get better. So
Speaker 4: I know they're happy about that.
Speaker 2: Dell, what you got.
Speaker 3: Making into the sixth I'm not sure about that making
Speaker 3: to the six spot, But to me, I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's the concern. I think they're very confident that
Speaker 3: they possibly could end up facing Miami in the first
Speaker 3: round in the playing game. So with them be back,
Speaker 3: having these seven games to kind of get his feet
Speaker 3: back underneath them. Obviously he'll be in a minute restriction
Speaker 3: coming back, so that's going to play a factor. Like again,
Speaker 3: he's not going to probably finish games. We'll see how
Speaker 3: they manage his minutes as far as kind of a
Speaker 3: hockey sub letting them get you know, getting them a
Speaker 3: little stiff on the sideline. But for the most part,
Speaker 3: his health is the main concern. I feel like they
Speaker 3: can get in the playoffs. They're fine with that versus
Speaker 3: trying to get to the sixth seed by trying to
Speaker 3: extend his minutes. The guys that's been playing, you know
Speaker 3: throughout the season without them, it's going to continue to
Speaker 3: have to step up. And obviously having your best player
Speaker 3: backs and gives you confidence. Like I said last week.
Speaker 3: You know, those guys having that experience with him out,
Speaker 3: you know, guys getting more shots to buy some stepping up.
Speaker 3: Tyresis shooting the head out.
Speaker 5: Of the ball.
Speaker 3: So it's like those guys still have their confidence, but
Speaker 3: what they biggerman back, they will be better. But I
Speaker 3: don't think it's solely a focus gon'n get to the
Speaker 3: six spot versus having him healthy to go in the
Speaker 3: first round to possibly play Miami and then end up
Speaker 3: probably getting Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. I think you guys are
Speaker 2: right that it is going to be hard to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, making up two games and only seven to
Speaker 1: play is I mean, it's very, very difficult.
Speaker 2: Right, But there is such a huge difference.
Speaker 1: Between being in the eighth seed and maybe facing the
Speaker 1: Celtics in the first round, definitely facing the Celtics in
Speaker 1: the first round, or being even in the seventh seed
Speaker 1: and facing Giannis in the Bucks in the first round.
Speaker 1: Versus is, if you can make it up to that
Speaker 1: six you're facing some version of either the Knicks or
Speaker 1: the Cavs with the Magic no matter who of those
Speaker 1: three teams is. That's a huge step difference from either
Speaker 1: the Bucks or the Celtics. So I think you guys
Speaker 1: are right, it's going to be very hard. But I
Speaker 1: think that is why they are so eager to have
Speaker 1: him back. And I was just with the Sixers last
Speaker 1: week talking to Nick Nurse, talking to some of the players,
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 2: They've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this.
Speaker 1: I just hope that Joel was able to do what
Speaker 1: they all think he is able to do. Honestly, the
Speaker 1: reason he was out a lot of this time was
Speaker 1: because of pressure put on him to play when he
Speaker 1: was more hurt than he should have been out on
Speaker 1: the court for. And that is how he agreed, you know,
Speaker 1: that is how he ended up with a much worse injury.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping this isn't the same kind of pressure.
Speaker 1: I fear a little bit it could end up being
Speaker 1: that way inadvertently. I am curious from you guys. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about a little bit of this with Karl
Speaker 1: Anthony Towns a little later in the show as well.
Speaker 2: When a guy is quote working his way back, is.
Speaker 1: It for the other guys in floridough like say, say
Speaker 1: for the other guys there, is it just hey, Joel
Speaker 1: being out there as such? A presence and he makes
Speaker 1: the defense change and it's a huge advantage even if
Speaker 1: he is maybe eighty percent the way book said, or
Speaker 1: is it that gosh, he's not quite himself and you've
Speaker 1: been doing this running this other thing. Like from a
Speaker 1: point guard perspective, what is it like when someone like
Speaker 1: that comes back.
Speaker 5: To me?
Speaker 3: It's night and day to have you a big fellow
Speaker 3: back being able to anchor the defense, ankor offense.
Speaker 2: If he's even if he's seventy, he's.
Speaker 3: Still gonna draw double triple teams. You know, he's still
Speaker 3: you know, continue to be a willing passer, creating the
Speaker 3: mismatches and then creating close outs. You know, your shooters
Speaker 3: are getting better shots now Tyres doesn't particularly have to
Speaker 3: make every particular play down the court, so it takes
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure off the offense completely. And again
Speaker 3: with him being seventy percent, like Culs said, it's better
Speaker 3: than ninety nine percent of the big men in the game. Besides,
Speaker 3: you know, one or two guys possibly, so you know
Speaker 3: they're not going to play on one on one. And
Speaker 3: with that being said, like I said, Earl, he's going
Speaker 3: to He's going to make these guys have easier shots.
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, having him back on a different a
Speaker 3: different flow of the game again, he's going to give
Speaker 3: his teammates confidence. He's going to give Nick Nurse confidence.
Speaker 3: So uh, they don't even to be a hundred percent
Speaker 3: right now. They wanted obviously to see high, high flows
Speaker 3: and gradually slow to get back to where you were.
Speaker 1: He was playing so well right before he got knocked out,
Speaker 1: and it's such a shame he had to lose a
Speaker 1: chunk of this season. We hope good health for everyone
Speaker 1: in the league and him in particular coming back.
Speaker 2: We'll see how he does.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about some of those other
Speaker 1: teams in the East though, because the Knicks, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got key starters out and yet here they are,
Speaker 1: they're still challenging for the number three spot. We don't
Speaker 1: know when Julius Randalla is going to return. He has
Speaker 1: a dislocated shoulder. Og Anobi was out and then back
Speaker 1: in and then out again. He was on the floor
Speaker 1: at practice, but he's not even clear for contact yet
Speaker 1: with that elbow injury. So we had Josh Hart say
Speaker 1: postgame on Sunday, we have to approach every game and
Speaker 1: the end of this season, that these guys aren't coming back,
Speaker 1: and if they do, we have to be pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1: So that cause that quote caused a lot of panic
Speaker 1: that the Knicks players who are hurt just aren't coming back.
Speaker 1: If you listen to Josh Hurt, he's a little bit
Speaker 1: more when he explained, just saying, Hey, that's how I
Speaker 1: approach every game. But but what do you think of
Speaker 1: that if they can't get these guys back. I mean,
Speaker 1: even is it worth having the discussion about what they're
Speaker 1: doing in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They're still playing pretty well without especially OG.
Speaker 4: I think this next team is built strictly off toughness.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 4: I think Jalen Bronson should be one of the top
Speaker 4: names when it comes to MVP this season, the way
Speaker 4: he's been carrying this next team through the ups and downs,
Speaker 4: Like he just came off of sixty point performance, even
Speaker 4: though it came with a loss. But this guy has
Speaker 4: been performing and exceeding all expectations coming into this year.
Speaker 2: You put him in that top five MVP conversation.
Speaker 5: I do? I do? I think he's done?
Speaker 3: Can we get a top five real quick?
Speaker 5: Right now? Let me let me finish my statement.
Speaker 2: In jo but it can't take someone out. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Everyone's in the top five.
Speaker 5: Everybody's in the top five until it's time to name
Speaker 5: the top five. Let me give this guy's flowers? Can
Speaker 5: I give him his flowers?
Speaker 4: He's been playing incredible, man, he's been leading, Yes, even
Speaker 4: through injury, missing you know, key pieces to the team
Speaker 4: and O. G.
Speaker 5: Julius Randall.
Speaker 4: I think he's done a great job leading his team
Speaker 4: when it comes to Josh Hart's comings.
Speaker 5: So I'm not mad at that mindset.
Speaker 4: If that helps you, you know, meet the criteria every
Speaker 4: night and come out ready to play like every game matters.
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that and that being my role player's
Speaker 4: mindset while our foundational pieces are out. I think that's
Speaker 4: a great mindset to have because it could carry over
Speaker 4: and keep things to floating to your stars are able
Speaker 4: to get back and join the team.
Speaker 1: Well said, Well, answer me this with the Jalen Brunson factor.
Speaker 1: When you break down how he plays, how successful he's
Speaker 1: been sixty one points the other night, and yet he's
Speaker 1: about six feet tall. I mean, what, what do you
Speaker 1: see the translation into the player?
Speaker 3: They got him listen to this, They got him listen
Speaker 3: to six two, but I think he's I played at
Speaker 3: six and to be able to average twenty eight, five
Speaker 3: and eight in this game. I know the game has changed,
Speaker 3: its faster faced, but still the way he's able to
Speaker 3: get into the pain attack shoot a high percentage over
Speaker 3: forty eight percent from the field. He's definitely been impressive,
Speaker 3: and I think he's been underrated his whole career and
Speaker 3: he's okay with that and seeded all expectations, his work ethic,
Speaker 3: his mindset, and shout out to coach Tibeau. You know,
Speaker 3: coach said earlier their their defensive mind to hard nosed
Speaker 3: team and it starts with your coach. So for them
Speaker 3: to be in a position they are now without their
Speaker 3: you know, their main guys, Julius randall Og a couple
Speaker 3: of the guys's been out throughout the season. He's been
Speaker 3: their rock. They're missed consistent and uh, you know, shout
Speaker 3: out to Jalen. He's he's a hell of player to watch.
Speaker 3: I even have my son watch as much as possible.
Speaker 3: You know, he's the best guard and that I would
Speaker 3: say he's playing off the two feet and it goes
Speaker 3: back to when he was telling about how he trained
Speaker 3: and billing over how he was able to get in
Speaker 3: the paint and uh, you know, learn how to learn
Speaker 3: how to pivot. So at that position, maybe behind Kyrie,
Speaker 3: he's the best post up guard in our game, you know,
Speaker 3: six feet six two and under. Uh, he doesn't get
Speaker 3: enough credit for that. Like I said, he's one of
Speaker 3: the best mit ranger mid range players in the game.
Speaker 3: So for him to be able to do this at
Speaker 3: the point guard position, night in night out. I know
Speaker 3: they've lost the last two, but before that, they've been
Speaker 3: they've been rolling, they've been hot. So it's gonna be
Speaker 3: interesting to see how they do the last five six
Speaker 3: games of the regular season without those guys. But he's
Speaker 3: a tough load now in the playoffs again, he's been
Speaker 3: turned up last year. I think he played eleven games
Speaker 3: last year. He's average twenty eight, five and five. I
Speaker 3: don't see him slowing down. You know, defenses will uh
Speaker 3: you know, predicate try to stop there in your entire
Speaker 3: defense is slow him down. But the sets they run,
Speaker 3: whether he's able to manipulate the game, I don't see
Speaker 3: that he's going to. You know, he's going to tail
Speaker 3: off anytime soon. With his averages in the playoffs. So
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of his teammates around him being
Speaker 3: able to step up consistently, you know, night in and
Speaker 3: night out. And that's why I think that they might
Speaker 3: you know, tail off and not get the w's because
Speaker 3: of that. But him his performance, he'll he'll be where
Speaker 3: he's going to be.
Speaker 1: Does the high thing come into play differently in the
Speaker 1: postseason with the way No, No.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's just amount of thing. It's a mindset.
Speaker 3: And again he's done it all season. He's faced every
Speaker 3: scouting port that he's played against this year is the
Speaker 3: defense has been predicated to stop him, and he's still
Speaker 3: putting up sixty you know, forties, thirty. I think he's
Speaker 3: had twenty nine thirty point games this year. So he's
Speaker 3: he has a defense figured out. As a matter off,
Speaker 3: his teammate stepped up and making a big shots when
Speaker 3: need because.
Speaker 2: That was very emphatic head.
Speaker 5: Not child man, that was great child.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, you guys got Orlando in there too. I mean,
Speaker 1: NEROK has to worry about them. They're they're five in
Speaker 1: the East as we sit here right now, but they've
Speaker 1: played so well. They're number two overall in defensive break rating.
Speaker 1: And I'm just curious if they can get that number
Speaker 1: three spot or even if they end up in number four,
Speaker 1: sort of do you see the Magic as a legit
Speaker 1: dark horse in the East. Do you think they can
Speaker 1: get out of the first round to do They've got
Speaker 1: the East standings up here to do what I want
Speaker 1: to win the title?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's there, not to.
Speaker 2: Win the title.
Speaker 1: I just mean, so look at the standings here there
Speaker 1: right in front of you. You know, they would play
Speaker 1: the Knicks in the first round if things ended today,
Speaker 1: and even if those guys switched four or five or
Speaker 1: even you know, or maybe they end up in the
Speaker 1: three spot like I just and they play the Pacers.
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of curious where you guys see this
Speaker 1: Orlando team. Is it sort of you be they got
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and good for them, or do you
Speaker 1: think that they are someone they could win a first
Speaker 1: round matchup?
Speaker 4: I definitely think first off. When this season is, I
Speaker 4: think exactly shout out to coach Mo. He's done an
Speaker 4: incredible job. I think he I think he just got
Speaker 4: extended right the season is the first thing that you
Speaker 4: do is extend coach like without a doubt. But I
Speaker 4: think this is a season for them where it is
Speaker 4: you know, you know, being excited about their progress this season,
Speaker 4: but as far as you know, championships, I don't think
Speaker 4: this team is there yet. I think they are now
Speaker 4: on the right path as to you know, where their franchise.
Speaker 1: First round, not championships, first round, first round.
Speaker 4: I can see them getting in the first round. But
Speaker 4: I think they're on the right path. I think they're
Speaker 4: They've set their foundation, they have their guys moving forward.
Speaker 4: One of the guys that I've been super impressed with
Speaker 4: this year who's been through a lot since coming in
Speaker 4: the league is Jonathan Isaac. He's dealt with a lot
Speaker 4: of injuries coming in, but man, this dude's playing lights out. Marco,
Speaker 4: everybody they've played, they've played way over expectations. But uh,
Speaker 4: I feel like this is just them growing as a
Speaker 4: young team, and next year and the years to come,
Speaker 4: that's when we'll start seeing them put things together and
Speaker 4: players in place to start competing for a championship.
Speaker 1: Well do you think though, that that Orlando's a free
Speaker 1: agent destination with the way this young team has been playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got some guys there who they could
Speaker 1: be interested in DeRozan, Play, Tobias s Buddy heild Lo,
Speaker 1: they all, they're all kind of going to be floating.
Speaker 5: Out there, especially for those guys.
Speaker 2: Taxes in Florida.
Speaker 4: Yes, if I'm definitely I'm definitely considering Orlando.
Speaker 5: One is it is a tax free state. Two, I
Speaker 5: mean it's hot.
Speaker 3: Tax rasee every day you wake up.
Speaker 5: For the old bones.
Speaker 3: And again the expectations low media coverage, you won't face
Speaker 3: a lot of criticism. Expectations aren't you know, the biggest.
Speaker 3: So again you go into a situation like that where
Speaker 3: again you got a young coach. The energy is going
Speaker 3: flowing great through the season, throughout the organization, I mean
Speaker 3: the culture. He's changed the culture, and I think, you know,
Speaker 3: you definitely want to be a part of a as
Speaker 3: a veteran coming in as a OG, coming in a
Speaker 3: lot of young guys. Everybody's hungry and expectations. You don't
Speaker 3: have many. You know that there's not much. So when
Speaker 3: you come in and pass those expectations, it's a winn
Speaker 3: win situation and getting paid and because they attax read
Speaker 3: so definitely definitely destiny give me.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: The free agency class this summer is not like you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like crazy superstars. But I think there will
Speaker 1: be some move the needle guys, and I think Orlando
Speaker 1: could be in that derby, so we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: Let's get over to the Western Conference though, guys, because
Speaker 1: Denver just beat Cleveland by twenty nine points. That was
Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray, which makes it very impressive. Except also,
Speaker 1: Jamal has missed five straight is the second injury he's
Speaker 1: had in his right leg. He's actually missed twenty one
Speaker 1: games total with some sort of you know, being beat
Speaker 1: up in one place or another this season, and that
Speaker 1: is a concern because Denver won last night.
Speaker 2: But guys, they are twelve and nine.
Speaker 1: When Jamal Murray doesn't play, they obviously are not going
Speaker 1: to be able to win another title without him. And
Speaker 1: right now you've got okay, see Denver in Minneapolis, all
Speaker 1: within a game of each other, within a game of
Speaker 1: each other for the top seed in the standings. I'm curious,
Speaker 1: there's seven left to play with Denver, we can put
Speaker 1: the West standings up Heeer as well. What is your
Speaker 1: level of concern and is it better in some ways
Speaker 1: if Jamal isn't quite right for them to try to
Speaker 1: not be in first maybe facing the Lakers, let's say,
Speaker 1: or the Warriors or one of those other teams in
Speaker 1: the first round.
Speaker 2: Do they want to drop down to say third?
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that the Pelicans are slouch or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but do they I don't know, what
Speaker 1: do you see for these next seven games?
Speaker 4: Book If they are to be in a position of
Speaker 4: facing the Lakers or Warriors team with Jamal Murray being out,
Speaker 4: that's definitely a concern for the Nuggets. Obviously when it
Speaker 4: comes to those who's teams at the nine and ten
Speaker 4: spot with the Lakers and Warriors.
Speaker 2: They are their sons and Kevin Durant and Booker, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean there's but it's also where. But even with
Speaker 4: that being saying, those are three teams that I don't
Speaker 4: think anybody wants to see in a one game type
Speaker 4: situation when it comes to, you know, an elimination game.
Speaker 5: But then when it comes.
Speaker 4: To a first round series, these are guys that have
Speaker 4: seen this time and time again.
Speaker 5: They've been in this position time and time again.
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a big believer in experience, wins, wins
Speaker 4: basketball game and championships.
Speaker 5: So Uh, those three teams are full of experience.
Speaker 4: Those teams have champions, those teams have guys that have
Speaker 4: been there multiple occasions. So uh, if I'm the Nuggets,
Speaker 4: I'm definitely nervous, especially with my second start being out.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure on Yolkish to try to
Speaker 4: carry a team through the first round with matchups like that.
Speaker 4: If I'm the Nuggets, I wouldn't be mad at seeing
Speaker 4: the Pelicans team, and I'm to piggyback off of you.
Speaker 4: It's not that the Pelicans are a pushover. I just
Speaker 4: rather meet a team with you know, less experience in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Like I said, compared to the Suns, Lakers,
Speaker 4: and Warriors, I think my chances are better a more
Speaker 4: a younger, more inexperienced team. I think the chances are better,
Speaker 4: and I think the Nuggets will be able to more
Speaker 4: sol cruise through that situation compared to facing one of
Speaker 4: those dominant teams, well not dominant, but more experienced teams,
Speaker 4: you know, in the first round.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, if I'm Nuggets, I'm looking at the seating. I
Speaker 3: might try to get to three and kind of what
Speaker 3: you all said, face the Pelicans, especially if Jamal is
Speaker 3: where he needs to be and kind of being able
Speaker 3: to get through the first round with him maybe you know,
Speaker 3: playing fifty percent of the games and not necessarily using
Speaker 3: him over thirty minutes a game obviously kind of minute
Speaker 3: managing them. So but again, if I was to face
Speaker 3: the Lakers or Warriors, I'm having a little bit of concerns.
Speaker 3: Even though yolkas playing aways, planning all year, you still
Speaker 3: I don't think one guy could be those teams, particularly
Speaker 3: four times before they beat you four times.
Speaker 1: Well that's what's herd though, because there's definitely two schools
Speaker 1: of thought on this, right is, some people in management
Speaker 1: or coaching have said, hey, you do want to try
Speaker 1: to hunt a match up a little bit, especially if
Speaker 1: you have an injured player or a player coming back
Speaker 1: from injury. We all know that facing a Lebron James
Speaker 1: team early in the playoffs when you don't have one
Speaker 1: of your best players or a limited use of one
Speaker 1: of your best players is.
Speaker 2: Not the ideal situation.
Speaker 1: However, there are also coaches management out there who will
Speaker 1: tell you that hunting matchups is a dangerous game and
Speaker 1: that you might end up, you know, with who you
Speaker 1: think you're getting in one round, but then you know,
Speaker 1: something happens at a later round that you don't expect.
Speaker 1: Your path is different than you thought. You know, I
Speaker 1: it's bad karma. The basketball guys don't like it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could list off all the things. Where are you
Speaker 1: guys with your head at on whether that would be
Speaker 1: smart or you just don't mess with fire and you
Speaker 1: try to win every game and you play what you
Speaker 1: should play.
Speaker 3: I think you try to win every game. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't want to have a losing metality or trying
Speaker 3: to jockey because again the race is too tight, like
Speaker 3: Phoenix and Sack could both slide den I mean with
Speaker 3: the ranging schedules from the leak out Phoenix to lose
Speaker 3: five out of the next eight games and go to nine,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's like you can't say,
Speaker 3: all right, we're going to face we don't want to avoid,
Speaker 3: we want to avoid the Lakers, but then Lakers mess
Speaker 3: around to get to the seventh spot, and then it's
Speaker 3: a different type of seasons. So I would say went out,
Speaker 3: especially if you don't have the experienced veteran team. Denver
Speaker 3: has guys that have one, obviously, but there's still be
Speaker 3: some pieces that they helped win them championship last year,
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't just say they can just say all right,
Speaker 3: let's just take a couple of games and we'll figure
Speaker 3: out where we're going to be. You know, you want
Speaker 3: to win out. You want to go into the playoffs
Speaker 3: with the win a mentality. You never want to take
Speaker 3: any games except me, I mean, except if you're trying
Speaker 3: to tank for the draft. Is not what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: You agree both because you guys both just said they
Speaker 1: should try to get to number three, So which is it.
Speaker 3: I don't think they have options like necessarily and that
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota's will be will fare out, Okay, I
Speaker 3: think their strengthen schedule. Isn't it the best? Or isn't
Speaker 3: it's hard because of you know, the remaining schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then along with Okac, so I think by default
Speaker 3: they'll end up even probably getting a third spot anyway,
Speaker 3: But again, you just never know. Seven games left and
Speaker 3: everybody's a half game behind each other, and it would
Speaker 3: be interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm a certainly a good point. They could end up
Speaker 2: there anyway.
Speaker 1: And as I said, they're twelve to nine without Jamal,
Speaker 1: so if he keeps missing games, they're going to not
Speaker 1: win a chunk of their games.
Speaker 2: That's just the way things have been.
Speaker 1: I mean, Minnesota is in an interesting spot too, because
Speaker 1: they would like to get the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the West. They have an eight and four record without Cat. Now,
Speaker 1: they did lose to Chicago yesterday, but these things happen.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they if they go without Cat
Speaker 1: in the first round and I have a hard time
Speaker 1: thinking he's he's certainly not going to be Cat even
Speaker 1: if he's back, and he might not come back until
Speaker 1: midway or even toward the end of the first round,
Speaker 1: do you think that without him they can still make
Speaker 1: a run?
Speaker 5: Bog?
Speaker 1: I mean, what if they face the Lakers in the
Speaker 1: first round, how do you see that matchup going?
Speaker 2: See what I did there? You think this job is easy?
Speaker 2: It's I think this.
Speaker 4: I think this team he will seem has the pieces
Speaker 4: to still get through the first round. Obviously, the matchup matters.
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a big fan of nas Read. I
Speaker 4: think he comes in Obviously, he's not going to produce
Speaker 4: at the same rate as Cat right now. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, later on in his career we'll see a
Speaker 4: guy putting up big numbers.
Speaker 5: But as of right now.
Speaker 4: He's not quite there yet, but he's not a bad,
Speaker 4: uh you know, replacement for Cat. I think he can
Speaker 4: step up and feel that voyd for this team in
Speaker 4: his absence. So I think it comes down to the matchup.
Speaker 4: If it is a Lakers team, it could possibly get
Speaker 4: a little shaky for him. I think AD they go down,
Speaker 4: I think Ad becomes real relaxing knowing that Cat isn't
Speaker 4: on the other end of the floor.
Speaker 5: So I will I will give though his credit. He
Speaker 5: said that.
Speaker 1: I don't know before court buttonless push, but it was
Speaker 1: like absolutely they would still win without Cat.
Speaker 2: Anthony Wards.
Speaker 4: On the Lakers to guard Anthony Edwards. But that's that's
Speaker 4: another topic. But man, I like the pieces that are
Speaker 4: around Anthony Edwards and Cat. I think it's some young,
Speaker 4: undiscovered talent on this team. We'll see how this plays out.
Speaker 4: But I mean, for me, it comes down to what
Speaker 4: team they end up matching up with if they have
Speaker 4: to worry about coming out of the first round.
Speaker 3: That Laker matchup though, yeah, I mean without Cat. The
Speaker 3: Laker matchup without Cat, I don't I don't see them
Speaker 3: getting it done, not only offensively, you know, you missing
Speaker 3: twenty three and nine. But the defensive president as well,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I said, they are
Speaker 3: the number one. He was the rating team the league.
Speaker 5: Who's defense was.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's so I just everything doesn't stand out
Speaker 3: talking about having having him two big boys, and I mean,
Speaker 3: I know how many years is not.
Speaker 5: Been the league.
Speaker 3: That sounds right, okay, but again Cat's president can't go
Speaker 3: over fifty any given and with that, with that off
Speaker 3: the floor, true, that's who with that off the floor,
Speaker 3: I just don't see that ratings, you know, off of
Speaker 3: the scoring power with Anthony Edwards. Again, he's gonna be
Speaker 3: tough to stop. And you can double triple team all
Speaker 3: you want, but getting the legas first round be a problem.
Speaker 3: Now they get they get a different look. Possibly they
Speaker 3: could face someone else and they might have a chance.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like you're right, that matchup is
Speaker 1: problematic specifically just because of all the length on the Lakers.
Speaker 1: You know, if they are faced off against the Warriors
Speaker 1: or the Suns or some of these other teams early,
Speaker 1: I just think the matchup is different. And I do
Speaker 1: believe in Anthony Edwards and Rudy Gobert. I know he's
Speaker 1: not your favorite person, but Cousins, but he is going
Speaker 1: to win his fourth Defensive Player of the Year award
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are on depensirating team in the league,
Speaker 3: and I think because he's not in any of the
Speaker 3: top categories. He's got in block steels, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like the runaway favorite. If you look
Speaker 1: at the betting odds, it's ridiculous. It's great, and you
Speaker 1: know that's going to be his fourth and I think
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace and.
Speaker 2: Hakeem are the only players who've ever done it that before.
Speaker 1: I just think that to book your larger point, I
Speaker 1: think that I think that that this team, even without
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns, should get credit for still being extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's just they might not be dangerous when they face
Speaker 1: a matchup like LA. So yes, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: I don't know which of these teams do you think
Speaker 1: needs home court advantage the most? If you think about
Speaker 1: all the playoff teams in either conference, who will be
Speaker 1: helped the most by home court advantage?
Speaker 5: I think the Clippers. For me, yeah, I think the Clips.
Speaker 3: Clippers.
Speaker 5: Yes, in that four or five spot, I think that matters.
Speaker 3: Okay, seem.
Speaker 2: Okay, see he's good just because they're young and that building's.
Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, just because of young experience like that. The
Speaker 3: role players play that at home versus a role I mean,
Speaker 3: everybody's us.
Speaker 2: Except the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Last year, the Warriors couldn't win a game on the road, right,
Speaker 1: and then today or sorry, this year there are road.
Speaker 2: Records much better than their home records. So who knows.
Speaker 1: I like I like the okay, see pick, that's good.
Speaker 1: I like the Clippers pick too, though, because they need help.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to three stats. You know what
Speaker 1: time that is to truth in a lietime, my friends?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Nate. Nate keeps putting these in so late
Speaker 1: that I haven't seen them yet. So let me read
Speaker 1: these a lot to you and we'll go through this
Speaker 1: journey together. And he's doing that on purpose, by the way,
Speaker 1: because he does not want me to know what it's going.
Speaker 2: To be said.
Speaker 1: Okay, see top five and defensive rating that is one stat.
Speaker 1: Stat number two the Spurs lead the league and blocks
Speaker 1: per game. Number three Luca leads the leads in turn
Speaker 1: leads the league in turnovers per game. I don't know
Speaker 1: what do you guys think of those three stats?
Speaker 2: Do you start us out. What are the two truths
Speaker 2: and what's the lie?
Speaker 3: Uh? I think Luca does lead the league of turnovers.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: Winby leads league in blocks, but is that Does that
Speaker 3: mean that Spurs lead the league in blocks? I'm stunned
Speaker 3: on this one. And okay see, top five defensive rating teams.
Speaker 2: But you got anything.
Speaker 5: I feel like they're all the truth and at the
Speaker 5: same time, they're all alive.
Speaker 3: I want to say, okay, I'm gonna go with okay see.
Speaker 4: I want to say, okay see's the truth, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say Luca leading the league in turnovers, it's also true,
Speaker 4: Spurs lead the league in blocks is false?
Speaker 2: What do you got, Doe? What do you think?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the last two are true? Okay see,
Speaker 3: it's not top five. You know you're the best team
Speaker 3: in the league. Yeah, I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 3: okay see's not top five.
Speaker 1: My tiebreaker is I think the Spurs one is the
Speaker 1: live for producer Nate, you get in here, what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. Producer Nate has spoken, bok. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about your victory? This is like you
Speaker 1: those courts sight interviews like you worked hard, cousins, you
Speaker 1: worked hard. How did it feel to achieve this win
Speaker 1: over vershon Rondo?
Speaker 4: Man, I hit this long stretch towards the end of
Speaker 4: My teammates just really picked me up and helped me
Speaker 4: get over that hump, and you know I was just
Speaker 4: able to, you know, pull this game out for us, and.
Speaker 5: You know, it really really feels good to be right.
Speaker 1: Let's go on to I'll take that bet presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 1: MVP adds they're getting a little bit interesting, guys. DraftKings
Speaker 1: still has Jokic far and away the favorite minus seven hundred.
Speaker 1: The next we see is Luke up there. He's plus
Speaker 1: five hundred. But man, the internet does not agree. Luca
Speaker 1: played in that game last night. I think he dropped
Speaker 1: what thirty two in the first half, and people went nuts.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't win.
Speaker 2: An MVP, I don't know what the voters are thinking.
Speaker 1: That was definitely the feel across the fan base last night.
Speaker 2: Where are you guys on this?
Speaker 1: When you look at what Yokich has done this year, Luca,
Speaker 1: the Mavericks are now in fifth in the Western Conference.
Speaker 1: We've had m vps as low as six Russell Westbrook
Speaker 1: I voted for him that year, even though Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: was a sixth place team. To me, what Russ did
Speaker 1: that year, the year after Katie left, the way he
Speaker 1: won all those clutch shots that he hit. I think
Speaker 1: he was top in the league and clutch shots that year,
Speaker 1: he was the MVP to me. So I understand the
Speaker 1: people who feel like g they might be in fifth place,
Speaker 1: but Luca is their MVP.
Speaker 2: Where Jo Kich? What he has done this year, you know,
Speaker 2: he makes it look so easy. Where are you, guys?
Speaker 3: I think people are getting bored with Yokich numbers. He's
Speaker 3: putting up like it's normal and disrespectful at the same time,
Speaker 3: again because he still has to go out and performing tonight.
Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, every defense is predicated on how
Speaker 3: to slow him down. They still haven't figured out the
Speaker 3: answer to that. And give hims credit, He's had historical numbers.
Speaker 3: I've seen the cult that came out of the about
Speaker 3: Tony KUKUKX, comparing them to with a Sabonus and somebody
Speaker 3: else that was I mean, like I said, that's just
Speaker 3: more the disrespect of what he's done in this game,
Speaker 3: and it was able to manipulate and down the game
Speaker 3: you're blocked. So it's just until you can top those numbers.
Speaker 3: Along with his team being you know, jocking in one,
Speaker 3: two three spot in the West, it's just tough to put,
Speaker 3: you know, these numbers over over Lucas and credit to Lucas.
Speaker 3: Have been a lot of MVP snubs throughout our game,
Speaker 3: our history of the game, and that's part of it.
Speaker 3: But nevertheless, I got to.
Speaker 5: Go with Joker.
Speaker 3: He's still he's still running the show. He's still the
Speaker 3: best player in the game, and he's he's been showing it.
Speaker 3: He's been dominating for years and it's come off a championships.
Speaker 3: So until you take it from him, I don't think
Speaker 3: he's done enough to take it. And Jokers might VP.
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 4: I actually agree with everything you know Doe said speaking
Speaker 4: on Jokic, But uh, you know, for me, I think
Speaker 4: I think it's two guys that have you know, played
Speaker 4: at a higher level than the Jokic, which is kind
Speaker 4: of crazy to even here or say, but uh, that's
Speaker 4: Luca and Sga. For me, when it comes to Luca,
Speaker 4: I think we all know what Luca does. You know,
Speaker 4: since he stepped foot in this league, he continues to dominate.
Speaker 4: He continues to put up big members, He continues the league,
Speaker 4: you know, his team on a yearly basis, So I
Speaker 4: feel like that can't go unnoticed. And uh, I think
Speaker 4: with the way SGA has performed, nobody expected Okay See
Speaker 4: to be this type of.
Speaker 5: Team this year.
Speaker 4: Not only are they, you know, a real contender, but
Speaker 4: they're doing it in the West. In the West, this
Speaker 4: is probably the best the West has been in a
Speaker 4: few years. Like from top to bottom, it's every team
Speaker 4: is you can lose on a night basis. So, but
Speaker 4: SGA to be dominating the way he is in the West,
Speaker 4: leading his team the way he is, I just I
Speaker 4: don't feel like that can go unnoticed.
Speaker 5: On top of that, he's playing on the other side
Speaker 5: of the ball as well.
Speaker 4: I don't think when it comes to, you know, the
Speaker 4: MVP conversation, I don't think that gets brought up enough.
Speaker 5: A guy that plays on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4: And it's no knock to Jokic, but we know he's
Speaker 4: going to dominate on the offensive end on a nightly basis.
Speaker 5: The same thing goes to Luca. We know he's going
Speaker 5: to dominate offensively when.
Speaker 4: It comes to those guys playing on the other side
Speaker 4: of the floor, it's not quite the same conversation. So
Speaker 4: I feel like SGA has to get a little more
Speaker 4: credit for not only dominating offensively and leading his team
Speaker 4: in the West, but also being dominant on the defensive
Speaker 4: side of the ball with leading the league and still
Speaker 4: so I think that has to be considered. So I
Speaker 4: think I'm rolling more so with Luca and Sga compared
Speaker 4: to Jokic. And it's no knock to Jokic, Like, like,
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you know Doe said, but for me,
Speaker 4: those two guys have performed at a higher level.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Part of it comes down to what I've been talking
Speaker 1: about for years, if it really depends on what you
Speaker 1: think MVP is. And to me, we need more of
Speaker 1: a standard for our most important award. You know, I've
Speaker 1: always said we should have something like the NFL has,
Speaker 1: like the NHL has for goal scoring. We should have
Speaker 1: some sort of best stats, best season award that kind
Speaker 1: of says, wow, these guys stats are otherworldly. That is
Speaker 1: not always necessarily the most valuable player, right, and again
Speaker 1: this goes back to say, I mean the Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 1: you know, MVP from years ago. I voted for him
Speaker 1: because he was definitely the most valuable to his team
Speaker 1: that year. Kevin Durant leaving left that organization, that fan base,
Speaker 1: that franchise just sort of reeling the idea that Russ
Speaker 1: picked everybody up, he got them to where they got them.
Speaker 1: He was the centerpiece during games, he was hitting all
Speaker 1: these clutch shots. He had a couple just sort of
Speaker 1: signature outings. To me, felt like the most valuable player
Speaker 1: as opposed to the best stats that year. And some
Speaker 1: years those are the same people, right, whoever's putting up
Speaker 1: the best stats is definitely the most valuable player. Some
Speaker 1: years it's not, though, And I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I couldn't say yet if this is one of those
Speaker 1: years or not. But you look at what Luca has
Speaker 1: been doing, seven game winning streak that they're on, you know,
Speaker 1: it's so impressive. To your point about SGA, they just
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there. They would not be maybe even in
Speaker 1: the playoff picture if it wasn't for them much less
Speaker 1: fighting for the number one overall seed. And then you
Speaker 1: go back to Yokic, it's not like Denver would be
Speaker 1: where they are without Yokich either, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's just we're so used to it, right, So
Speaker 1: like every argument that you give, like oh, Luca pushed
Speaker 1: them to a great streak and he's put up numbers
Speaker 1: or SGA, they wouldn't be there without him.
Speaker 2: Well that's all true about Nicola also, So it's just
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think this is this is actually a little bit
Speaker 1: of a tougher MVP race than people have given it
Speaker 1: credit for. I think once Joelle went down, people were like, eh,
Speaker 1: Jokic the runaway winner. I think there is momentum building
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